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Nobody Should Believe Me
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Author Andrea Dunlop is looking for answers. When her older sister was first investigated for Munchausen by Proxy abuse more than a decade ago, it tore her family apart. This catastrophic series of events sent Dunlop on a journey to understand this most taboo form of abuse. In this groundbreaking podcast, she talks to some of the top experts in the world to explore the criminology and psychopathology behind Munchausen by Proxy and to reveal the wide swath of destruction these perpetrators leave in their wake.
In each season, Dunlop investigates a case: speaking to friends, family members, doctors, law enforcement, child protection workers, and experts. Nobody Should Believe Me unravels these complex and terrifying stories, shedding light on an unspeakable crime.
"A rich and harrowing chronicle of the condition." --The New York Times
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S05 E09: Out of the Shadows
Feb 27, 202501:48:31Summary readyEpisode 8 was originally our season finale, but a source we’d been speaking to for months bravely decided to go on the record. This is Andrea’s conversation with Chalice Howard, Sophie’s friend of nearly 10 years. With many similarities, being white single moms of adoptive black daughters and a shared faith, Chalice and Sophie found a kinship with each other despite living on opposite sides of the country. Chalice shares about her relationship with Sophie and the girls, the journey to learning about and accepting what Sophie’s been doing to C, and why she decided to contact Andrea. She describes how things came to a head with Sophie and gives a touching message to C and M.***Please remember that this conversation is from Chalice’s perspective and experience, so we are not able to fact check certain dates/times, nor her conversation with Sam. We have invited Sophie and other members of the Hartman family onto the podcast to tell their side of the story, but at the time of publishing have not received a response.. As always, the door remains open if Sophie or other members of the Hartman family would like to tell their version of events.***Links and Resources:Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlopBuy Andrea's books here.To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.comThe American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Feb 27, 2025Summary readyIntroducing Jillian Turecki: 3 Biggest Dating Mistakes You’re Making (Stop Chasing Love That’s Not For You) from On Purpose with Jay Shetty.Follow the show: On Purpose with Jay ShettyWhat do you think is the biggest dating mistake people make? Have you ever chased someone who wasn’t right for you? In today’s episode, Jay welcomes relationship coach, teacher, and podcast host Jillian Turecki to break down the biggest dating mistakes people make. They dive into why relying too much on dating apps can lead to burnout, how the fear of rejection holds you back, and why being single is often better than staying in the wrong relationship. Jillian unpacks why we’re drawn to people who don’t want us while ignoring those who do. She explains how past relationship patterns, toxic dynamics, and a false sense of intimacy create cycles that keep us stuck. They also explore the fine line between honesty and oversharing, how to repair trust after dishonesty, and self-reflection exercises to heal after a breakup. In this episode, you’ll learn: The 3 biggest dating mistakes and how to fix them. Why relying on dating apps alone can hurt your love life. How the fear of rejection and loneliness affect attraction. Why do we chase people who ignore us? When honesty becomes oversharing in relationships. How to repair trust and reflect after a breakup. If you’ve ever felt stuck in dating or struggled with attraction patterns, this episode will help you break unhealthy cycles and make better choices in love. With Love and Gratitude, Jay Shetty. Join over 750,000 people to receive my most transformative wisdom directly in your inbox every single week with my free newsletter. Subscribe here. What We Discuss: 00:00 Intro 02:03 Dating: 3 Biggest Mistakes 05:39 The Fear Of Rejection 09:47 Choice In Love 13:36 The Fear Of Being Alone 14:41 The Attraction Paradox 21:37 It All Begins With You 32:00 Find Other Things Attractive 42:48 Telling The Truth Vs Being Too Honest 46:45 Repair Not Being Truthful In A Relationship 56:30 Choice In Love 2 01:01:10 It's All In Your Head 01:04:52 Reflect With Your Partner 01:09:14 Self Reflection Exercises After A Breakup 01:12:13 Jillian on Final Five Episode Resources: Jillian Turecki | It Begins with You: The 9 Hard Truths About Love That Will Change Your Life Jillian Turecki | Linkedin Jillian Turecki | Website Jillian Turecki | YouTube Jillian Turecki | Instagram Jillian Turecki | Facebook Jillian Turecki | TiktokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.DISCLAIMER: Please note, this is an independent podcast episode not affiliated with, endorsed by, or produced in conjunction with the host podcast feed or any of its media entities. The views and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the creators and guests. For any concerns, please reach out to team@podroll.fm.
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S05 Ep08: They Saw You
Feb 20, 202500:43:25Summary readyIn our season finale, we see Sophie Hartman follow in the footsteps of the Kowalski family, Andrea’s sister Megan Carter and others, as she files a lawsuit against Seattle Children’s and the others who investigated her for Medical Child Abuse. Journalist Olivia LaVoice shares her thoughts about how this has all played out. We hear Sophie rebranding herself as a ‘falsely accused’ mother in a visit to her home congregation in Kalamazoo and examine the crossover between evangelical Christianity, the parents' rights movement, and medical child abuse cases. We reveal what we know about where Sophie and the girls are today. ***Links and Resources:Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: https://brittaniard.com/podcastClick here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlopBuy Andrea's books here.To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.comThe American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Feb 20, 2025Summary readyIntroducing Claudia Oshry: How to Stop Letting Your Body Image Hold You Back & Build Lasting Confidence from On Purpose with Jay Shetty.Follow the show: On Purpose with Jay ShettyDo you ever feel held back by body image? What’s one thing that instantly boosts your confidence? Today, Jay welcomes Claudia Oshry, a comedian, podcaster, and social media personality. Claudia is the co-host of the extremely popular podcast "The Toast" and has gained a large following on Instagram for her relatable and often self-deprecating posts. Claudia has been open about her personal life, including her struggles with body image and her journey to motherhood. Claudia opens up about the misconceptions surrounding her online persona, her journey with Ozempic, and her decision to embrace motherhood. She discusses the challenges of vulnerability on social media and the importance of self-acceptance and living life on your own terms and finding fulfillment. Jay and Claudia share their personal experiences with weight and body image, revealing the societal pressures and internal struggles they have faced. They explore the complexities of Claudia's weight loss journey and decide to use Ozempic openly in the public eye. Claudia shares her personal transformation and the newfound confidence she gained through her weight loss journey. In this interview, you'll learn: How to Overcome Misconceptions How to Embrace Vulnerability How to Deal with Weight Stigma How to Build Confidence How to Find the Right Partner Remember, it's okay to seek support and share your struggles. Embrace your true self, live life on your own terms, and never stop pursuing your dreams. With Love and Gratitude, Jay Shetty Join over 750,000 people to receive my most transformative wisdom directly in your inbox every single week with my free newsletter. Subscribe here. Join Jay for his first ever, On Purpose Live Tour! Tickets are on sale now. Hope to see you there! What We Discuss: 00:00 Intro 02:27 How It Feels to Be Misunderstood 04:57 Protect Your Own Peace 06:56 What is Fat Camp? 08:34 The Struggle of Losing Weight 12:38 Responsible Use of Ozempic 16:20 Struggle with Self Image and Confidence 19:36 How Does Getting Pregnant Feel? 24:18 Getting Ready to Start a Family 30:46 Friends Change Throughout Your Life 33:08 Choosing What to Share About Your Life 39:45 Becoming a Content Creator 42:45 Learnings from the Corporate Life 46:16 Building a Brand as a One-Man Team 49:26 Smart Advice for Content Creators 52:49 Just Get Started 55:08 Stability is Beneficial in Running a Business 58:04 Running a Business with Family 01:01:44 How to Record a Good Episode 01:03:27 Know When to Listen 01:07:11 The Worst Type of Humor 01:10:46 Greatest Lesson from Grief 01:14:50 The Girl with a Dead Dad 01:18:37 The Dangers of Exposing Children Online 01:21:30 Claudia on Final Five Episode Resources: Claudia Oshry | Website Claudia Oshry | TikTok Claudia Oshry | Instagram Claudia Oshry | Youtube Girl With No Job: The Crazy Beautiful Life of an Instagram Thirst MonsterSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.DISCLAIMER: Please note, this is an independent podcast episode not affiliated with, endorsed by, or produced in conjunction with the host podcast feed or any of its media entities. The views and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the creators and guests. For any concerns, please reach out to team@podroll.fm.
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Introducing: There and Gone
Feb 19, 202500:41:18Summary readyThere and Gone: South Street covers the case of Richard Petrone and Danielle Imbo. Richard and Danielle were last seen leaving a bar in Philadelphia only to never be seen again. Nearly two decades later, they have never been found. Unlike most cases, there is not a single piece of physical evidence. But the FBI knows there was foul play. In There and Gone: South Street, the podcast team opens their own investigation on Richard and Danielle’s case with unprecedented access and cooperation from the FBI. Listeners will also hear from the family of the missing, close friends who were the last to see Richard and Danielle as well as local law enforcement, who continue to be haunted by this case nearly two decades later. This podcast will seek to find answers to this decades long cold case in an effort to bring justice to Richard and Danielle’s families.***Listen to There and Gone: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/there-and-gone-south-street/id1751733221 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Feb 19, 2025Summary readyIntroducing The 3 Things EVERY Human Wants with Esther Perel | The Oprah Podcast from The Oprah Podcast.Follow the show: The Oprah Podcast In this episode of The Oprah Podcast, presented by Ulta Beauty, world renowned relationship therapist Esther Perel offers her profound insight on modern romance, and what we can do to feel more alive in all our relationships – not just the romantic ones.With wisdom gained as a therapist and from her hit podcast, Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel, Esther offers frank sexual advice along with her thoughts on dealing with betrayal, life transitions and relational burn out. Couples and individuals will join via Zoom to hear Esther do what she does best: reveal the hidden truth beyond the stories we tell. She’ll also discuss her ingenious conversation-starter card game, “Where Should We Begin? A Game of Stories by Esther Perel.” Thank you to our partners at Ulta Beauty. They want to help you celebrate all the relationships in your life - not just the romantic ones! Share a post, tag your bestie and @ULTABEAUTY and share why they’re so special to you! Ulta Beauty will help pay the joy forward with a chance to receive a ‘surprise and delight’ beauty experience. www.ulta.com“Where Should We Begin? A Game of Stories by Esther Perel” is available on her website, And Esther's books are available here: https://www.estherperel.com/books Conflict to Connection: https://www.estherperel.com/courses/turning-conflict-into-connection Desire Bundle: https://www.estherperel.com/course-bundles/the-desire-bundle Follow Oprah Winfrey on Social:Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@Oprahhttps://www.instagram.com/oprah/https://www.facebook.com/oprahwinfrey/Listen to the full podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0tEVrfNp92a7lbjDe6GMLIhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-oprah-podcast/id1782960381 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices DISCLAIMER: Please note, this is an independent podcast episode not affiliated with, endorsed by, or produced in conjunction with the host podcast feed or any of its media entities. The views and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the creators and guests. For any concerns, please reach out to team@podroll.fm.
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S05 Ep07: Who is This Bad Soul?
Feb 13, 202501:03:20Summary readyWe examine perhaps the most important piece of the complex puzzle of the Hartman case: what Sophie wrote about it in her journals. We’re joined by Dr. James Hamilton, an MBP expert with a PhD in clinical psychology, to walk us through some of Sophie’s most chilling journal entries collected in the case files. We also look at Sophie’s disturbing internet search history during the time of C’s alleged Central precocious puberty (CPP) diagnosis. After being separated from Sophie, M and C are placed with Sophie’s mom and sister. Detective Lee discusses the problems that arise when placing children with people that are most likely going to side with the perpetrator. In April of 2022, C and M are returned to Sophie and criminal charges are subsequently dropped. Andrea offers a key insight into how this might have happened by revealing a surprising member of Sophie’s legal team: her sister, Megan Carter. ***Links and Resources:Dr. James Hamilton: https://www.munchausensupport.com/who-we-are/Check out Olivia LaVoice’s podcast, The Bakersfield Three: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/867-the-bakersfield-three-128074552/Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: https://brittaniard.com/podcastClick here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlopBuy Andrea's books here.To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.comThe American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
SummaryYou Might Also Like: The Oprah Podcast
Feb 13, 2025Summary readyIntroducing The 3 Things EVERY Human Wants with Esther Perel | The Oprah Podcast from The Oprah Podcast.Follow the show: The Oprah Podcast In this episode of The Oprah Podcast, presented by Ulta Beauty, world renowned relationship therapist Esther Perel offers her profound insight on modern romance, and what we can do to feel more alive in all our relationships – not just the romantic ones.With wisdom gained as a therapist and from her hit podcast, Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel, Esther offers frank sexual advice along with her thoughts on dealing with betrayal, life transitions and relational burn out. Couples and individuals will join via Zoom to hear Esther do what she does best: reveal the hidden truth beyond the stories we tell. She’ll also discuss her ingenious conversation-starter card game, “Where Should We Begin? A Game of Stories by Esther Perel.” Thank you to our partners at Ulta Beauty. They want to help you celebrate all the relationships in your life - not just the romantic ones! Share a post, tag your bestie and @ULTABEAUTY and share why they’re so special to you! Ulta Beauty will help pay the joy forward with a chance to receive a ‘surprise and delight’ beauty experience. www.ulta.com“Where Should We Begin? A Game of Stories by Esther Perel” is available on her website, And Esther's books are available here: https://www.estherperel.com/books Conflict to Connection: https://www.estherperel.com/courses/turning-conflict-into-connection Desire Bundle: https://www.estherperel.com/course-bundles/the-desire-bundle Follow Oprah Winfrey on Social:Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@Oprahhttps://www.instagram.com/oprah/https://www.facebook.com/oprahwinfrey/Listen to the full podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0tEVrfNp92a7lbjDe6GMLIhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-oprah-podcast/id1782960381 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices DISCLAIMER: Please note, this is an independent podcast episode not affiliated with, endorsed by, or produced in conjunction with the host podcast feed or any of its media entities. The views and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the creators and guests. For any concerns, please reach out to team@podroll.fm.
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S05 Ep06: Human Timebomb
Feb 6, 202501:11:29Summary readySophie insists to police and others that the real problem isn’t that she’s abusing her daughter but that Seattle Children’s–a world class pediatric hospital–simply doesn’t understand her daughter’s rare condition: Alternating Hemiplegia of Childhood. But according to police interviews, very few people in C’s orbit ever witnessed an episode, and if they did, they described symptoms that, alone, are not indicative of AHC. We also hear snippets of interviews stating that Sophie often presented AHC as a terminal illness, a claim that Dr. Zupanc refutes. Dr. Jill Glick, a child abuse pediatrician from the University of Chicago, returns to talk us through the process hospitals go through when evaluating medical child abuse cases. We also go through a few of the many inconsistencies in Sophie’s reports to C’s various doctors. Sophie claims that C could die at any moment from AHC: but does she even have it? ***Links and Resources:Watch Human Timebombs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qbjprd9v9YMore about Dr. Mary Zupanc: https://www.childneurologysociety.org/awards/mary-l-zupanc-md/More about Dr. Jill Glick: https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/find-a-physician/physician/jill-c-glickLearn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: https://brittaniard.com/podcastClick here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlopBuy Andrea's books here.To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.comThe American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Feb 6, 2025Summary readyIntroducing Healing Your Childhood Trauma | The Oprah Podcast from The Oprah Podcast.Follow the show: The Oprah Podcast BUY THE BOOK!"What Happened To You? Conversations on Trauma, Resilience, and Healing" by Bruce D. Perry and Oprah Winfrey, published by FLATIRON BOOKS | MACMILLAN PUBLISHERS, is available wherever books are sold. Go here for more information about Dr. Bruce Perry’s work Buy the book on Apple BooksBuy the book on SpotifyIn this episode of The Oprah Podcast, world-renowned child and adolescent psychiatrist and neuroscientist, Dr. Bruce Perry, offers his advice on how to heal from childhood wounds. Oprah and Dr. Perry co-authored the #1 New York Times bestselling book, What Happened to You? Which has sold over 1 million copies. Dr. Perry discusses why asking this simple question is so important to understanding one’s story and behavior. He also gives scientific and practical guidance on why certain traumas can have lasting impacts on our lives and how little moments of hope make all the difference. Oprah shares stories from her own life offering ways to overcome our challenges. People from around the country join via Zoom to share their experiences and receive advice from Dr. Perry and Oprah on how to heal and move forward from their personal traumas.Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@OprahFollow Oprah Winfrey on Social:https://www.instagram.com/oprah/https://www.facebook.com/oprahwinfrey/Listen to the full podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/0tEVrfNp92a7lbjDe6GMLIhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-oprah-podcast/id1782960381 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices DISCLAIMER: Please note, this is an independent podcast episode not affiliated with, endorsed by, or produced in conjunction with the host podcast feed or any of its media entities. The views and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the creators and guests. For any concerns, please reach out to team@podroll.fm.
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