This week, writer Emily Gould joins Quinn and Claire to discuss her obsession with Heated Rivalry (it's about hockey, primarily), the aging cliff at 44, ruining everything you used to find fun by professionalizing it, and parenting the kid that's exactly like you.

Also discussed: food parties, advice columns, Julia Roberts, and the Kinsey Scale.

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