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NOT the Sermon
Hosted by Jamie & Eric · EN
NOT the Sermon is a podcast where two pastors talk about everything but the sermon. Jamie and Eric discuss faith, culture, and theology...all while roasting each other. If you are sick of sermon podcasts and are looking for a funny and refreshing take on Christian life, check out this blend of comedy and theology. Just remember, its NOT the sermon!
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Episode 113: Sermonaughty Pt3 : Sermonaughtiest
1w ago00:49:03Tap to summarizeIn this episode Jamie & Eric rapid fire through multiple questions in their sermonaughty style. This is the "questions" episode where the boys take on questions from the practical to the bizarre. Skybalon: Bingeing the Bible & Men's Retreats Seggie 1: Sermon amen-ing, single parent dating advice, and cross-gender praying Seggie 2: Self Condemnation and church competition Seggie 3: Christians, Harry Potter, and Santa Claus Make sure the check out the Not The Sermon Patreon for insider trading, unreleased content, and behind the scenes footage of each episode.
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Episode 112: "Flickin the Boogalon"
2w ago00:49:27Tap to summarizeIn this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, talking lesser-known candies and Jamie’s very unfortunate zit situation. In Weird Worship, they react to a Taylor Swift tribute happening in a church service and ask where the line is. In Odd News, they cover a bizarre story of three people committing insurance fraud while dressed in a bear suit. Finally, in Shady Theology, they unpack John Piper’s “frogs” analogy and what it says about total depravity. It’s weird, hilarious, and theologically spicy—welcome to Not the Sermon.
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Episode 111: Shanghai Shenanigans
3w ago00:49:58Tap to summarizeIn this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Eric shares about getting a suspicious “Royal Mail” scam letter straight from the UK. In Shady Theology, they dive into the debate over once saved, always saved—what it means and why Christians don’t all agree. In The Megachurch Moment, they react to Joel Osteen’s unexpected interview with Jake Paul. Finally, in Houston, We Have a Question, they wrestle with a big-picture question: will we remember Earth and our lives here when we’re with God? It’s curious, conversational, and just the right amount of spicy—welcome to Not the Sermon.
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Episode 110: "Pod-Keister"
4w ago00:44:10Tap to summarizeIn this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, talking about the weird, foggy feeling of the post-Easter daze and how hard it is to get back to normal life after a big Sunday. In Houston, We Have a Question, they tackle whether practical jokes have a place in church culture—or if they cross a line. In Pester the Pastor, they wrestle with a foundational question: what’s the right way to pray? Finally, in Odd News, they cover a surprising story of a church inviting a tattoo artist into the foyer—raising eyebrows and questions all at once. It’s thoughtful, a little controversial, and very on brand—welcome to Not the Sermon.
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Episode 109: "He's Gone Full Bun"
Apr 1300:47:54Tap to summarizeIn this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, unpacking Alex’s departure and asking if maybe they’re the problem, along with Jamie sharing a recent preaching scare. In Houston, We Have a Question, they tackle how to handle gossip in a healthy, biblical way. In Pester the Pastor, they dig into the classic “unspoken prayer request” and how we are supposed to read your mind. Finally, in Christian Conspiracies, they explore the mystery and myths surrounding the Freemasons. It’s honest, awkward, and just conspiratorial enough—welcome to Not the Sermon.
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Episode 108: "Eddie, Get Off the Drums!"
Apr 600:45:51Tap to summarizeIn this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Eric recounts the chaos of driving the church van through a storm. In Shady Theology, they tackle the ongoing debate: is a paper Bible actually better than digital? In So Help Meme God, they react to the now-infamous “Eddie on the drums” moment. Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they wrestle with a practical preaching question—when is it appropriate to use other people’s stories in a sermon? It’s chaotic, relatable, and sneakily thoughtful—welcome to Not the Sermon.
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Episode 107: "Would You Like Flies with That?"
Mar 3000:49:26Tap to summarizeIn this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie airs out some fresh beef with Eric and things get just a little tense. In Houston, We Have a Question, they tackle a round of conspiracy-themed listener questions. Then in Christian Conspiracies, they dive into the popular claim that Jesus is just a retelling of Horus—and whether there’s actually anything to it. Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they discuss pastors and personality types, and how much personality should shape leadership in the church. It’s spicy, skeptical, and full of banter—welcome to Not the Sermon.
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Episode 106: "Hill-Psalms"
Mar 2300:45:08Tap to summarizeIn this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, sharing some behind-the-scenes conference hijinks as they and another pastor find ways to entertain themselves on the road. In Shady Theology, they tackle the rise of house churches—are they a return to a biblical model or just anti-establishment energy in disguise? In Weird Worship, they ask a question many are thinking: is worship just too loud? Finally, in Oh My, Your Greek Is Showing, the guys break down metanoia—what repentance really means and why it’s more than just saying sorry. It’s reflective, funny, and just theological enough—welcome to Not the Sermon. 🎙️
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Episode 105: "This is Why People Don't Like You"
Mar 1600:46:42Tap to summarizeIn this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon talking about death row final meals. In Houston, We Have a Question, they talk about the surprising Christian history of piñatas. In How Great Is Our Pod, they debut a new spoof song, “The Spirit Is Speaking…Probably.” Finally, in Shady Theology, they unpack positive confession and the crossover between Word of Faith teachings and New Age thinking. It’s ridiculous, historical, and theologically spicy—welcome to Not the Sermon. 00:00:18 – Skybalon: Death row meals 00:11:36 – Houston, We Have a Question: Piñatas as evangelism 00:21:11 – How Great Is Our Pod: The Spirit Is Speaking…Probably 00:30:08 – Shady Theology: Positive confession
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Episode 104: "Milk Boarding"
Mar 900:49:16Tap to summarizeIn this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, reacting to Eric’s new life-size Steve Irwin cutout and debating the questionable survival advice for confronting predators. In Houston, We Have a Question, they answer a listener curiosity: do they ever get pushback or flack for the things they say on the podcast? In Odd News, they cover a truly disgusting story of a man who sprinkled his own armpit hair into a restaurant meal in a “pit-full” attempt to get it for free. Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they tackle whether churches should follow the traditional church calendar or stick to their own rhythms. It’s weird, gross, and theologically curious—welcome to Not the Sermon. 00:00:16 – Skybalon: Steve Irwin, running from alligators & punching sharks 00:10:42 – Houston, We Have a Question: Do we ever get flack for this podcast? 00:24:43 – Odd News: A “pit-full” attempt at a free dinner 00:33:26 – Pester the Pastor: Should churches follow the church calendar?
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