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Old Paths Podcast
Hosted by Michael Spangler and Cody Justice · EN
Retrieving and applying the historic Reformed faith.
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Report on Reformed Christian Politics
Mar 2601:27:20Tap to summarizeSUMMARYIn this episode of the Old Paths podcast, Michael Spangler and Cody Justice delve into the report on Reformed Christian Politics (written by Stephen Wolfe, Zachary Garris, and Sean McGowan), discussing its implications for modern political thought within the Reformed tradition. They explore the cultural influences that have shaped contemporary Reformed theology, critique the modern two kingdoms theology, and emphasize the need for systematic political thinking that aligns with the principles of the Reformed faith. The conversation highlights the importance of the church's role in politics, the necessity of promoting true religion, and the moral obligations of civil authorities. Throughout the discussion, they advocate for a more robust engagement with political issues, urging listeners to consider the historical context and theological foundations of their political beliefs.HIGHLIGHTSReformed political thought has been influenced by modern liberalism.The two kingdoms theology has been misapplied in contemporary politics.Christian political engagement should be rooted in Reformed principles.Grace does not abrogate nature; both are essential in theology.The church's mission is spiritual but must also engage with political realities.Political reasoning is a discovery process that requires moral action.Not all morally permissible actions are prudent in practice; yet prudence must not be an excuse for cowardice or indifference.The promotion of true religion is a duty of civil government.The church should not shy away from political involvement.A systematic approach to political thought is necessary for Reformed Christians.CHAPTERSChapters00:00 Introduction to Reformed Christian Politics03:06 Cultural Influences on Reformed Theology06:00 The Challenge of Modern Political Thought09:01 The Role of Two Kingdoms Theology12:06 Deficiencies in Current Political Thinking14:49 The Relationship Between Politics and Missiology18:07 The Need for Systematic Political Methodology20:54 Critique of Modern Conservative Politics23:51 The Principle of Promoting True Religion26:55 Prudence in Political Action30:05 The Intersection of Faith and Politics33:00 Conclusion and Call to Action44:37 Exploring Historical Contexts and Authority Limits48:04 The Role of Civil Authority in Promoting Religion52:04 The Complexity of Blasphemy and Civil Action55:57 Inevitability of Religious Establishment01:00:25 Prudence and Moral Action in Governance01:03:02 Rhetoric and the Promotion of True Religion01:11:05 Understanding the Relationship Between Principle and Practice
Transcribe →American Mantle Review (February 2026)
Mar 2601:01:29Tap to summarizeSUMMARYIn this episode of the Old Paths Podcast, Michael Spangler and Cody Justice discuss various topics including updates from Piedmont Presbyterian Church, recent publications from Sacra Press, and a critical review of Jeremy Karl's book 'The Unprotected Class'. They emphasize the need for virtues such as loyalty and righteous anger in the nationalist movement, arguing that complacency and a lack of moral conviction hinder progress. The conversation highlights the importance of standing firm against liberalism and the necessity of denouncing harmful ideologies while fostering a strong sense of community among nationalists.HIGHLIGHTSMichael's church is experiencing growth and new members.Sacra Press has released several new books and offers subscriptions.Cody's review of Jeremy Carl's book serves as a rebuke to uncritical endorsements.Loyalty among nationalists is crucial for success.Denouncing effective leaders weakens the movement.Righteous anger is necessary to combat societal evils.Complacency in the face of evil is a significant problem.The need for virtues like piety and fortitude in nationalism.Criticism of Jeremy Carl highlights the dangers of liberalism.The importance of community and support among nationalists.CHAPTERS00:00 Introduction and Updates from Piedmont Presbyterian Church06:10 Reviewing 'The Unprotected Class' by Jeremy Carl17:12 Critique of Jeremy Carl's Senate Hearing23:03 The Implications of Appointing Jeremy Carl27:04 The Right's Internal Divisions and Future Strategies30:30 Purity Spirals and Winning Strategies34:00 Realism vs. Imagination in Political Strategy39:54 Virtues for Nationalist Organizing50:03 The Role of Anger in Nationalism
Transcribe →Excommunicated for Race Realism: Sam Ketcham
Jan 2801:47:20Tap to summarizeSummaryThis episode discusses the trial and excommunication of Sam Ketcham, focusing on the charges against him related to his views on race realism. The conversation explores the trial proceedings, the atmosphere during the trial, the impressions of supporters, and the arguments made by both the prosecution and defense. Key themes include the perceived lack of justice, the ambiguity of the charges, and the broader implications for faith and justice within the church. The conversation delves into the complexities of church dynamics, particularly focusing on the excommunication of Reverend Ketchum from the RPCNA. The speakers discuss the charges against him, the conflation of Liberalism with Christianity, and the implications of egalitarianism within the church. They reflect on the role of church courts, the historical context of current debates, and the need for a return to biblical truths. The discussion culminates in a call for fight within the church and a recognition of the challenges faced by those who uphold the biblical, historic Faith.TakeawaysSamuel Ketchum was excommunicated for his views on race realism.The trial proceedings were marked by a lack of solemnity and predetermined outcomes.Supporters felt the trial was unjust and poorly conducted.The prosecution's arguments lacked clear biblical support.Pre-trial motions raised significant concerns about the trial's legitimacy.Witness testimonies were sidelined, limiting the defense's ability to present their case.The atmosphere during the trial was described as light-hearted despite serious charges.The charges against Ketchum were seen as vague and ambiguous.The defense argued that the prosecution failed to substantiate their claims.The trial raised broader questions about justice within the church. The church is facing charges of being against its own progress.There is a conflation of natural inequalities with racism in church discussions.Egalitarianism is viewed as a denial of God's order.Excommunication is seen as a miscarriage of justice.The role of church courts is critical in maintaining doctrinal integrity.Witness testimonies can significantly impact church proceedings.Historical context is essential in understanding current debates.Natural inequalities are acknowledged but often denied in modern discourse.The church must confront its own history to move forward.A call for reform and a return to biblical truths is necessary.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Trial and Excommunication02:59 Background of Charges and Trial Proceedings06:11 Impressions from Supporters at the Trial09:06 Trial Observations and Judicial Conduct12:12 Prosecution's Arguments and Charges14:51 Defense and Pre-Trial Motions17:58 Summary of Prosecution's Claims20:58 Discussion on Judicial Process and Fairness23:57 Witness Testimonies and Trial Dynamics34:41 Witnesses and Their Role in the Trial41:29 Defense Arguments and Charges Overview56:44 Excommunication and Its Implications01:07:45 Compassion vs. Reality in Society01:09:17 Unequal Distribution of Talents and Abilities01:10:44 The Impact of IQ on Opportunities01:12:24 The Role of Truth in Racial Discussions01:16:10 Historical Context of Racial Contributions01:18:43 Personal Experiences and Observations01:23:39 The Debate on Slavery and Its Implications01:26:16 Reflections on the RPCNA and Church Integrity01:30:41 The Aftermath of Excommunication01:34:43 A Call to Action for the Church
Transcribe →American Mantle Review (Jan. 2026)
Jan 801:28:04Tap to summarizeSummaryIn this episode of the Old Paths podcast, Michael Spangler and Cody Justice delve into recent articles from American Mantle, discussing the importance of discerning friends from enemies in political discourse, the role of AI in shaping modern strategies, and the challenges of defining American identity. They explore the need for leadership and organization within political movements, particularly focusing on the Middle American Radicals and their potential to challenge the current regime. The conversation emphasizes the necessity of adapting to new technologies while maintaining core principles and the importance of building a cohesive identity within the movement.HighlightsListening is key to discerning true intentions.Political leadership can often disappoint.AI is a tool that can enhance political strategy.Defining American identity is crucial for unity.Leadership is essential for effective organization.Middle America holds potential for political change.Cultural narratives shape political realities.Institutional independence is necessary for growth.Polarization is a reality in modern politics.The future requires new strategies and forms.Chapters00:00 Introduction to American Mantle and Recent Articles06:12 Understanding Friends and Enemies in Political Discourse10:49 Disappointment with Political Leadership14:22 The Role of Technology in Modern Politics20:22 AI's Impact on Political Narratives26:33 The Anthropological Void in American Identity47:06 Citing Exceptions and Political Identity49:01 Defining American Identity52:42 New Forms for a New Era53:02 The Role of the Vine and Iron01:03:00 Middle American Radicals and Political Strategy01:14:40 Confronting the Ruling Class
Transcribe →Reformed Presbyterian Persecution: Interview with Samuel Ketcham
Dec 1201:37:54Tap to summarizeSummaryIn this episode of the Old Paths podcast, hosts Michael Spangler and Cody Justice engage with Samuel Ketchum, a minister in the RPCNA, discussing his journey to ministry, the challenges he has faced, particularly regarding race and theology, and the charges brought against him by his presbytery. Ketchum shares his insights on the importance of biblical preaching, the current state of the church, and the implications of his trial set for January 24th. The conversation notes some of the concrete charges brought against Ketcham, emphasizes the need for accountability and truth in ministry, as well as the complexities surrounding race in the church today.TakeawaysSamuel Ketchum shares his background and journey to ministry.He discusses the challenges he faced in his early ministry experiences.Ketchum highlights the importance of preaching and its current challenges in the church.The conversation delves into the intersection of race and theology in Ketchum's writings.Ketchum explains the charges brought against him by the RPCNA.He reflects on the implications of these charges for his ministry and the church.The discussion emphasizes the need for biblical fidelity in preaching.Ketchum expresses his desire for a more honest conversation about race in the church.The trial date is set for January 24th, and Ketchum prepares to defend his views.The conversation concludes with a call for accountability in ministry.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Background of Samuel Ketcham04:03 Journey to Ministry and Early Experiences09:14 Challenges in Ordination and Preaching Philosophy14:53 The Role of Preaching in the Church Today19:52 Transitioning Between Denominations and Racial Awareness25:08 The Impact of Race on Faith and Community30:06 Current Trial and Charges in the RPCNA35:46 Understanding the Charges of Sin43:31 The Role of Scripture in Church Authority51:40 Critique of Judicial Processes in the Church57:01 Historical Context of Abolitionism and Its Implications01:03:23 The Importance of Biblical Foundation in Charges01:07:43 The Role of Historical Context in Modern Debates01:10:00 Vows and Commitments in Religious Institutions01:12:41 Personal Experiences and Reactions to Controversy01:14:41 The Intersection of Race and Theology01:18:57 Egalitarianism and Its Challenges01:20:20 Public Perception and Accountability in Ministry01:22:01 The Nature of Presbyterian Judicial Processes01:24:53 The Importance of Honest Discourse in Theology01:33:07 Next Steps in the Journey of Faith and AccountabilitySupport the work of Old Paths Podcast by donating here to American Mantle.
Transcribe →Marrow 15: The Person of Christ
Dec 1101:05:16Tap to summarizeSummaryIn this episode of the Old Paths podcast, Michael Spangler and Cody Justice continue in The Marrow of Theology by William Ames. They delve into the theological concepts surrounding the person of Christ as the mediator and the implications of redemption, discussing William Ames' teachings on restoration, the dual nature of Christ, and the significance of his blood in the context of redemption. The conversation also touches on contemporary controversies regarding Christ's nature and the importance of understanding these doctrines for a robust faith, with an emphasis on the need for careful theological reflection and the application of these truths in the lives of believers.TakeawaysRedemption is both accomplished and applied.Christ's work is central to understanding salvation.The mediator stands between God and man.The hypostatic union is a mystery of faith.Redemption emphasizes our ownership by Christ.Christ's blood signifies the high price of redemption.Understanding Christ's dual nature is essential.The communication of properties is a complex issue.Christ's knowledge reflects his dual nature.Our response to Christ's sacrifice should be obedience.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Updates on American Mantle03:09 Transition to Restoration and Redemption11:33 Understanding Redemption and the Redeemer18:52 The Mediator: Christ's Role in Redemption29:01 The Hypostatic Union and Its Implications35:53 Controversies in Christology and Sacramental Theology38:19 Understanding the Sacramental Language41:56 Covenant Theology and Christ's Presence45:36 The Schism Between Lutheran and Reformed Views47:40 The Nature of Christ's Knowledge54:10 Theological Reflections on Christ's Dual Nature01:00:38 Application of Christ's Teachings in Our Lives
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Response to Presbycast On Kinism
Oct 3002:02:13Tap to summarizeSummaryIn this episode of the Old Paths Podcast, Michael and Cody respond to a Presbycast episode that critiques kinism and discusses racial egalitarianism within the church. They explore various themes including the nature of church statements on race, the implications of division within the church, and the historical context of racial issues. The conversation delves into theological perspectives on race, the role of nations, and the importance of natural principles in church governance. Throughout the discussion, they emphasize the need for a nuanced understanding of race and identity in the context of Christianity, while critiquing the arguments presented by their opponents.HighlightsDivision in the church is often oversimplified and misattributed.Racial egalitarianism is not universally accepted within the church.The distinction between conversion and naturalization is crucial.Historical context is essential in understanding racial issues.Patriarchy and gender roles are biblically defined and should not be dismissed.Misinterpretations of scripture can lead to false accusations of heresy.Racial identity is significant in the context of the gospel.Political implications of race discussions cannot be ignored.Natural principles should inform church governance and leadership.Cultural heritage and racial identity are important aspects of faith.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Discussion on Kinism03:42 Critique of Racial Egalitarianism in the Church06:36 Understanding Division and Heresy09:39 The Nature of Church and Nation12:30 Examining Exceptions in Biblical Contexts15:29 The Role of Race in Scripture19:48 Misinterpretations of Racial Identity23:41 The Unity of Humanity and Race26:41 Political Implications of Racial Discussions30:32 The Nature of Race and Morality34:36 Christ's Racial Identity and Its Significance38:26 Divine Boundaries and Racial Divisions42:41 Theological Implications of Kinism46:55 Critique of Modern Church Practices50:40 Hospitality and Immigration in the Church55:12 Jesus and Racial Affection58:53 Conclusion and Final Thoughts59:13 Contempt for Misuse of Scripture01:04:00 Racial Issues and the Gospel01:06:08 Debating Kinism and Ethno-nationalism01:08:58 Equivocation on Racial Identity01:14:18 Responses to Racial Arguments01:19:42 Historical Context of Racial Discussions01:25:52 The Role of Race in Church Leadership01:31:56 Truth and the Future of Racial Discussions01:40:05 Southern Identity and Historical Context01:47:21 Gratitude for Racial Heritage01:52:48 Final Thoughts on Race and ChurchKeywordsKinism, Presbycast, racial egalitarianism, church division, racial theological implications, racial identity, church governance, natural principles, cultural heritage, church unity
Transcribe →Jude: Grace, Judgment, & Spiritual Sodomy
Oct 2900:46:48Tap to summarizeIn this episode of the Old Paths Podcast, Cody and Michael delve into the Epistle of Jude, exploring themes of grace, judgment, and the concept of spiritual sodomy. They discuss the purpose of Jude's letter, the importance of contending for the faith, and the nature of grace as both unmerited favor and enabling power. The conversation highlights biblical examples of judgment, including the Israelites, fallen angels, and the infamous Sodom and Gomorrah, drawing parallels to contemporary Christian living. The hosts emphasize the dangers of idleness and the need for vigilance against sin, urging listeners to actively contend for their faith and flee from influences that undermine their spiritual integrity.Highlights:The main purpose of Jude's letter is to contend for the faith.Turning grace into license to sin is a serious issue.Spiritual sodomy is akin to a fruitless Christian life.Grace is not just unmerited favor; it is enabling power.Biblical examples serve as warnings against ungodliness.Idleness and ease can lead to spiritual decay.Christians must actively fight against sin.Fellowship with those who make light of sin is dangerous.The consequences of sin can be severe and eternal.Contending for the faith requires effort and vigilance.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Jude's Epistle02:24 Contending for the Faith05:37 Understanding Spiritual Sodomy11:08 The Nature of Grace15:02 Examples of Judgment: Israelites and Angels19:29 Sodom and Gomorrah: A Case Study24:26 The Consequences of Idleness27:25 Applications and Warnings34:47 Final Thoughts and Encouragement
Transcribe →American Mantle Review Oct. 2025
Oct 2901:31:30Tap to summarizeIn this episode of the Old Paths Podcast, Michael and Cody discuss various articles published by American Mantle, focusing on themes of political violence, the role of the church, and the necessity of moral integrity within Christian nationalism. They explore the implications of recent events, the challenges facing the right, and the historical context of the Canaanite extermination as a warning for modern nations. The conversation emphasizes the need for repentance and spiritual revival in America, alongside a call for clear leadership and action in the face of political and social challenges.Highlights:We need a new American revolution.Diversity is not a nation's strength; authoritarian rule often follows.The right must learn from past mistakes to avoid repeating them.Political violence may be necessary in today's climate.The church may become a source of persecution for true believers.Involvement in traditional party politics may not yield results.Christian nationalism must embrace moral integrity to succeed.The Canaanite extermination serves as a warning for modern nations.Repentance and spiritual revival are essential for national healing.Political activism can be a form of faith and repentance.Chapters:00:00 Introduction and Overview of American Mantle02:27 Updates from Sacra Press04:29 Recent Articles and Their Themes08:49 Discussion on 'Churning Point USA'27:15 The State of Party Politics34:41 Schlieman's Series on Christian Nationalism47:19 Embracing Ethnonationalism53:02 The Jewish Question and Palestine01:01:03 The Need for Clear Leadership01:04:28 Preparing for Future Tests01:11:19 Understanding God's Judgment on Nations01:21:07 Faith, Repentance, and Political Action
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The Murder of Iryna Zarutska
Sep 2601:18:22Tap to summarizeIn this episode of the Old Paths Podcast, hosts Cody Justice and Michael Spangler discuss the tragic murder of Iryna Zarutska, exploring the racial dynamics and societal implications surrounding the incident. They delve into theological reflections on murder, the importance of wisdom in addressing racial issues, and the role of language in racial discourse. The conversation emphasizes the need for collective identity among Whites, practical steps for protection, and the moral responsibility towards minorities. They also critique Liberalism's failure to create a harmonious society and call for a revolution to address these pressing issues, while highlighting the spiritual dimensions of justice and repentance.Key Highlights:The murder of Iryna Zarutska highlights racial violence in society.Theological perspectives on murder emphasize the sanctity of life.Racial dynamics complicate perceptions of violence and justice.Wisdom is crucial in addressing racial issues and protecting communities.Language and rhetoric play significant roles in racial discourse.Collective identity is necessary for effective response to racial threats.Understanding the nature of racial conflict is essential for safety.Statistics reveal disparities in crime rates among racial groups.Statistics are not necessary to love and defend your own.Civil rights advocacy must include the rights of Whites.Practical steps are needed for White men to protect their families.Martyrdom may be necessary for revolutionary change in society.White fathers have a duty to educate and protect their families.The church must address racial issues and promote justice.Moral responsibility towards minorities must be balanced with self-preservation.Liberalism has failed to create a harmonious society.Finding like-minded allies is crucial for collective action.Spiritual reflection is necessary for true justice and repentance.Give a monthly amount to support the work of Michael & Cody at American Mantle here.Read / listen to Cody's article on the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the murder of Iryna here.
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