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Marshal Matt Dillon
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Andrew Rines
Welcome to the Old Time Radio Westerns. I'm your host, Andrew Rines. And let's get into this episode. This episode is going to be Gunsmoke. Original air date is December 6, 1952 and the title is. I don't know. I mean, really. I do know It's Cold. I don't know. I promise.
Marshal Matt Dillon
That's the.
Andrew Rines
That is the title. Let's get into it.
Narrator
Around Dark City and the territory on west, there's just one way to handle the killers and the spoilers, and that's with the U.S. marshal. And the smell of Gun Smoke. Gun Smoke. Starring William Conrad. The story of the violence that moved west with young America. The story of a man who moved with it. Matt Dillon, United States Marsh.
Chester Proudfoot
Let me go in, Marco.
Danny Burch
Let me go.
Narrator
Well, what have you got there, Chester?
Chester Proudfoot
Half bug, captain, half kid, Mr. Dillon. I'll smack you flat and open. Now, hold it.
Marshal Matt Dillon
You want me to take the strap to you? Now hold it.
Chester Proudfoot
You best lock him up somewhere, Mr. Dillon. It's safer that way.
Marshal Matt Dillon
All right, Chester, just calm down now. You come over here, son. Sit down.
Chester Proudfoot
Come on. Look how much you're doing. He's got a hold of your gun. Okay,
Narrator
Now you sit there.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Don't you move an inch, you hear me? Not one inch.
Chester Proudfoot
He is a mean little bug.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Now, what's it all about, Chester? What's he done?
Danny Burch
I ain't done nothing.
Chester Proudfoot
Now, you hush your mean little face. This here place is the law and you're talking with.
Marshal Matt Dillon
What's he done, Chester? There.
Chester Proudfoot
You hear that? Yes, sir. Well, sir, I don't really know what he's done.
Danny Burch
That's what I told you. I ain't done nothing, Mr. Dillon.
Chester Proudfoot
I was walking down to the office when I see this. This kid. I know most all the sprouts in town, but not him. So I says hello and he starts running.
Marshal Matt Dillon
That's what he did.
Chester Proudfoot
Yes, sir.
Marshal Matt Dillon
And that's why you brought him in here?
Chester Proudfoot
I sure did, Mr. Dillon. I figured if a kid runs away from me for doing nothing, then he's been up to something. So he must have done something. You. You know What?
Marshal Matt Dillon
I mean, no. Now, what's your name, son?
Danny Burch
I ain't done nothing.
Marshal Matt Dillon
All right, now, what's your name?
Danny Burch
I ain't saying.
Marshal Matt Dillon
There.
Chester Proudfoot
You see what I mean, Mr. Dylan. Just plain orner. Mischievous.
Marshal Matt Dillon
You live here in Dodge?
Danny Burch
I ain't saying.
Marshal Matt Dillon
All right. Well, he's probably a runaway, Chester. I guess we'll have to lock him up until somebody comes looking for him, huh?
Chester Proudfoot
Best thing in this whole wide world to do, Mr. Dylan. Just look at where he gnawed my thumb. Best thing to do.
Danny Burch
Come on, lock me up.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Have you got a better idea? We got to do something with you.
Danny Burch
Let me be on my way.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Where do you live?
Danny Burch
About four miles out.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Oh. Oh, sure, sure, I know you. You're the Macklin kid.
Danny Burch
No, I ain't. I'm Danny. Bur
Chester Proudfoot
ain't Sam there. I knew he wasn't town, kid. I just knew that. Mr. Dillon, what did I tell you?
Marshal Matt Dillon
Nothing. Now, if you'll just close up a minute, Chester, we can get this settled and Danny can go on his way. Now, you say you haven't done anything wrong, son?
Chester Proudfoot
No.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Your ma know you're in Dodge this morning?
Danny Burch
Guess so.
Marshal Matt Dillon
All your chores done before you came?
Danny Burch
No.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Maybe you better go on back then, huh? Your ma might be kind of worried.
Danny Burch
Guess so.
Marshal Matt Dillon
You got a horse?
Danny Burch
Yeah.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Okay.
Chester Proudfoot
So long.
Marshal Matt Dillon
And take it easy.
Danny Burch
I can go now?
Marshal Matt Dillon
Sure. Go ahead, Danny.
Danny Burch
You're a marshal, John, ain't you?
Marshal Matt Dillon
Yeah, that's right.
Danny Burch
Well, I guess I come to Dodge to fetch you. My sister sent me. Oh, I wasn't going to, but I got you now. Cause I promised Lily. She made me swear on Raller's buttons. I figure if I didn't see, I wouldn't be telling no lie if I told her you wasn't around. But now I see.
Marshal Matt Dillon
No, no, no. Hold on. Your sister wants me to come out with you to your place, is that it?
Danny Burch
Yeah.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Why?
Danny Burch
On account of Pa. None of us gives a hootseptin. Sister Lillian. She just acting like a girl.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Oh. What's happened to your paw?
Danny Burch
He's gone off again shooting up the cattle. Thing is, he took two guns with him this time and a whole mess of bullets. Lily's just scared.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Your PA been drinking? A little, maybe?
Danny Burch
Yes. Anyhow, he goes local and stays that way for a long while. But it's like Dave and Donald say. He'll get over it. He always does. They're my brothers, Dave and Donald. They ain't worried.
Marshal Matt Dillon
You want me to go out with you to help find him? Is that it?
Danny Burch
I don't want it. Lily does. And I had to swear on rattler buttons that I'd fetch you.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Oh, yeah, sure, sure. Well, it's good that you did, Chester. Get your stuff, will you?
Chester Proudfoot
We'll ride out with Danny.
Marshal Matt Dillon
I didn't get anything more out of the boy on the way out to the Birch place. No one in town knew much about the family. They'd moved in about a year earlier. Came up from the territories. The folks about said Birch and his brood kept pretty much to themselves. They'd never been any trouble with anybody. I looked at the boy riding his horse bareback. He was nice looking enough, but there was something the matter with his mouth. It was too hard. He could tell. He wasn't a kid who did much. Smiling maybe, with his paw acting that way. I didn't blame him. He sure rode his horse proud, though. It was hot and dry. And by the time we were inside of the Birch place, the sun was burning down hard.
Danny Burch
Yeah. There he is.
Chester Proudfoot
Kid, get off on that horse and get over here. Get yourself a licking. No.
Danny Burch
He made me go. It's not my fault.
Narrator
Do as I say.
Marshal Matt Dillon
The name's Dylan. I'm the U.S. marshal out of Dodge. Your brother asked me to come out and help.
Chester Proudfoot
Don't need no help. Shut up, Ham. Nothing to help with. Danny, you heard. Put the horse away and get in the house.
Danny Burch
You ain't giving me no licking.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Put up your gun. I'm coming over to talk. Come on, Chester. It's against the law to shoot a man in cold blood. You know that. Shucks, I wasn't aiming at you. I was aiming at a rabbit up on the rise there. The horses scattered away. Now, what about your paw?
Chester Proudfoot
What about him?
Marshal Matt Dillon
Have you found him? Shucks, you don't need to be. Fine. He'll come back when he's good and ready.
Chester Proudfoot
Pods off hunting.
Marshal Matt Dillon
That's not what your brother says. He's. Where'd he go? He's gonna get himself a lick, and that's what, and he knows it. Get self away, that's what. Donald. That's your name, isn't it?
Chester Proudfoot
Yeah.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Well, look, I'm not one to interfere in family matters, but if you do need help, I mean, if your pa's shooting up cattle like Danny says, well, maybe he'll be practicing next on people. And that wouldn't be so good. That brother of ours, He's a dirty little liar.
Chester Proudfoot
No, he's not.
Lily Burch
Donald. I'm glad you came. Marshall. You come into the house. Please.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Chester and I Followed the girl into the house. I knew it was the sister, Lily. All the family I'd seen up to then. It had a great likeness to each other. Donald slouched in behind us and moved around the room, nervous like. It wasn't by rights a house. It was too big for a cabin. I had the feeling that they put up boards and studs where the fancy took them. And the place just grew another room like a lizard's new tail. I don't know what it was, but I got a funny feeling it was too hot. And something was wrong, all wrong. And the girl, Lily looked square at me with hard eyes.
Lily Burch
Donald.
Chester Proudfoot
Huh?
Lily Burch
Sit down. Make me nervous.
Chester Proudfoot
Oh, sure.
Lily Burch
Marshall Dillon, I want you to help us find Paul.
Chester Proudfoot
Oh, Lily, Dave's gonna be awful mad.
Danny Burch
Somebody's gotta do something around here.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Did. Did your PA take a horse?
Lily Burch
No.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Oh. Where do you think he went, Ms. Lily?
Lily Burch
I don't know. Maybe up to Horse Flats. Maybe over by Gorman's Creek.
Chester Proudfoot
Creek's all dried up. Gotta be no water in there.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Did he take a water skin with him?
Lily Burch
Uh, no, he didn't.
Chester Proudfoot
Kinda bad wandering around without no water.
Marshal Matt Dillon
When did he leave?
Lily Burch
Yesterday morning. Heard a couple of shots along about noon. Dave found a calf laying dead over in the north range. You can see it there through the window. Haven't had time to bring it in yet.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Was. Was he drunk?
Chester Proudfoot
Sure. Drunk as you can get, weren't he?
Marshal Matt Dillon
Lily, I'm.
Lily Burch
I'm afeared for him. Marshall Dillon.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Yeah, I understand. Well, it makes good sense you sent for me. Well, I'll. I'll try and find him and bring him back. Well, I ain't gonna do no such thing. You that Marshall fella out of.
Lily Burch
Doc, this is Marshall, Dylan, Dave, my brother. Dave Burch.
Marshal Matt Dillon
How are you? I told you, Lily told you. Keep our business to us. Not outside.
Danny Burch
It's gotta be somebody else's business the
Lily Burch
way it is, Dave. You know it.
Chester Proudfoot
No such thing, Lily.
Marshal Matt Dillon
I told her, Dave.
Chester Proudfoot
I told her. I knew he was going to be mad.
Marshal Matt Dillon
I. I figure the four of us, you and your brother here and Chester and me, ought to be able to get him in before night. Mister, I told you, we don't need you or no one else. I'll be obliged you get off this property.
Chester Proudfoot
Shut up, Lily.
Marshal Matt Dillon
I'll see you and your fellow there to the door. Marshall, I'm sorry, but if your pa's running around dangerous, it's my duty to find him. Donald. I got him. Get up slow, Marshall. And you, fella, reach up high
Chester Proudfoot
okay, Dave, take the guns.
Marshal Matt Dillon
The younger brother, Donald, had got behind my chair. And now he was covering us with a shotgun. Dave took our guns. It was kind of crazy and I almost wanted to laugh when I saw the kid Danny, peeking in around the door. But then I saw his eyes. And there was the same thing in him. Hard, angry as in the others. The girl started to say something, then she shut up. Now get on your horses and ride back. Not. I want you out here again. This ain't no matter for the law and your trespass. You're making it a matter for the law right now, you know that. Start walking.
Chester Proudfoot
Them guns is U.S. property.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Okay. I ain't no thief. Here. Bullets. I'm keeper. Figure they're worth about two bits. Donald, give them two bits.
Chester Proudfoot
Sure. Here.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Right. Now, here's your guns. Now get out fast. You come snooping back again, me and my brother's gonna be shooting at.
Narrator
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Marshal Matt Dillon
The two brothers followed us out and over to the horses. As hot as it was in the house, it was worse in the open. The saddles were burning. There wasn't another word passed between the Birch boys than me. They just stood covering us. When I looked back, a hundred yards or more off, they were still there.
Chester Proudfoot
Well, sir, that's what comes of trying to do a kindness, Mr. Dylan. Far as I'm concerned, they deserve whatever happens.
Marshal Matt Dillon
I can't make it out. Chester. You'd think from the way they talk, they don't care what happens to their
Chester Proudfoot
poor mean bunch of children. They probably don't. My, Mr. Dylan, you ain't even riled they pulled guns on.
Marshal Matt Dillon
I guess I'm not. Chester, you know, there's something awful wrong back there. Those boys don't look the kind to pull a gun. The girl wanted to talk, all right, but they wouldn't let her.
Chester Proudfoot
Just mean, that's all. You aim to go back, Mr. Dillon?
Marshal Matt Dillon
It's like I said, Chester. If it's just a family affair, you and me don't belong in it. But if the old man's as drunk as he sounds, he could make a lot of trouble. No, we're not going back right now. We're gonna have a look around this country for a spell. Chester and me covered a lot of ground that morning into the afternoon. I had an idea that we might find birch wherever we could find water. Without a horse he couldn't get too far. And without water he was going to get sick pretty quick. We rode over by Gorman's Creek, then up to Horse Flats and there was Nothing along. About 2 in the afternoon, Chester spotted a carcass line. Off the trail was a cow. She'd been shot three times in the head.
Chester Proudfoot
Could have happened this morning or yesterday.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Uh huh.
Chester Proudfoot
Hard to tell in this weather. Oh
Marshal Matt Dillon
well, the ground's too dry to pick up a track. Might as well take a chance and go over to the hills.
Chester Proudfoot
Yep, might be water there. Boy, I could do with some right this very minute.
Marshal Matt Dillon
I got a funny taste in my mouth looking at that dead cow. When a thing dies natural or gets killed for food, that's one thing. But even an animal has a look about it, but it's been murdered. We rode the half a dozen miles to the hills. They weren't rightly hills, maybe more like humps rising up from the brown dry earth. And we could get a good view across the plain. There was a patch or two of wild oats up there, long turned to rust and foxtails. Maybe it was in our minds, but just those few feet higher made us seem closer to the sun and hotter. You ought to be able to see
Chester Proudfoot
if he's out there anywhere, Mr. Dillon. He'd be dead if he was. Man couldn't live a morning out there on foot.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Well, I don't think he's gonna find water up here now. Look at that.
Chester Proudfoot
Dry as a bone. You see something, Mr. Dylan?
Marshal Matt Dillon
Yeah, tracks, I think. Yeah, he's been up here. Went down again though. Over there.
Chester Proudfoot
He sure made a long way on foot. Must be more than eight miles from his place.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Yeah.
Chester Proudfoot
Oh, you darn fool.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Rattler.
Chester Proudfoot
Yeah, I saw the. Blew his head clean off. I was afraid you was gonna step on him.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Well, we'll follow the tracks until they give out. Come on. Those tracks kept going in and around the hills a couple of places. We saw where they'd stopped by a dry water hole and went on. Then as the hill sloped down the the plane again, we lost him, but the direction seemed to be headed back to the birch place. That's the way we rode, we hadn't gone more than 15 minutes along when we saw the body of a man and a horse some few feet away. They were both dead.
Chester Proudfoot
He wanted to make sure, didn't he, Mr. Dillon? Burch must have emptied his gun. Look at that.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Isn't it Jack Mason, One of old man Gorman's hands?
Chester Proudfoot
Yes, sir, that's who. Tis right enough. Nice fellow, too. I knew him a bit.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Get him on your horse, will you, Chester? And take him over to Mr. Gorman.
Chester Proudfoot
Yes, sir, I'll do that.
Marshal Matt Dillon
I'm gonna go back to the Birch place.
Chester Proudfoot
I. I'd rather come to you, Mr. Dillon.
Marshal Matt Dillon
No. Meet me there, huh?
Chester Proudfoot
Yes, sir.
Marshal Matt Dillon
And if you see Birch on the way, watch your step. Try not to kill him, but don't take any chances.
Chester Proudfoot
No, sir, I surely won't.
Marshal Matt Dillon
There was killing now, and I was a Wasn't in the mood to talk gentle and kind with the sons and girl at the house. It was the boy, Danny, that saw me first. He was sitting on the doorstep. He ran inside. And a second later I saw Dave come out with a shotgun. I didn't give him a chance to make up his mind.
Chester Proudfoot
Dave. Dave. Dave.
Danny Burch
What did you. My brother's doing.
Marshal Matt Dillon
What happened?
Chester Proudfoot
Shut up, kid.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Get inside.
Chester Proudfoot
Hang up your eyes clean.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Get inside now.
Chester Proudfoot
You hear me?
Marshal Matt Dillon
I'm sorry, but I'm not arguing with you anymore. Where's your paw? I don't know. He killed a man back on the plane away.
Danny Burch
You're a liar.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Told you. Get in the house, kid. Now. Get.
Danny Burch
I'm staying. He's a liar. Poor. I never killed nobody.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Where's Donald and your sister? Outlook, Mr. Diddy. He killed some. Yeah. Jack Mason, one of Gorman's boys.
Danny Burch
Don't you say that.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Don't you, Danny? Give me some whiskey, William.
Chester Proudfoot
Arm pains.
Danny Burch
Yeah, I will. But you ain't gonna tell no lies about my fault. You tell me. Quit saying.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Where do you think he is? Donald Hearst shot up Horse Flats. When they've gone up there and he must have doubled back from the hills. Listen, you told the boy to ride into town and fetch the doc out here. He'll take care of that arm. Okay. When my deputy rides in. Chester Proudfoot, tell him where I've gone, will you?
Chester Proudfoot
Sure.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Marsh. Yeah,
Chester Proudfoot
Marshall?
Marshal Matt Dillon
You gonna. You gonna kill our.
Chester Proudfoot
Our pa?
Marshal Matt Dillon
I don't want to. Not if I. Over at Horse Flats, I caught up with Donald and Lily Burch. I told him about the killing. And a half mile further on, the three of us saw the old man. He was crouched down on his haunches by a parched water hole, stripped naked. He was crying. It was a bad sound. When I saw his eyes, I knew he wasn't drunk. There was no sign of his guns or his clothes.
Chester Proudfoot
Come on, Pa. It's okay.
Lily Burch
It's done.
Chester Proudfoot
You. You're okay, Pa. Come on. Come on, Pa. Please.
Lily Burch
I knew it would happen like this someday. I knew it would. Boys figure it'd be shame on us all if word got out Pa had spells.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Your brothers were wrong.
Lily Burch
It was all right till after Ma died. Then he started to act this way. That's why we had to leave our last place. People found out, try to keep him home, but weren't no good.
Chester Proudfoot
Give you a cup of water and your pasta. I'll get up. We'll go in the door.
Lily Burch
Funny. Pa never took a drink in his life. We always said he was drunk when he carried on like this. People could figure a man drunk.
Marshal Matt Dillon
I'm sorry, Miss Lily, but I'm gonna have to take him in. I got to.
Lily Burch
Will they do too?
Marshal Matt Dillon
I don't know. But he's done murder. It's my job to take him in.
Lily Burch
They'll hang him.
Marshal Matt Dillon
I don't know. Maybe not. I don't know. Son.
Chester Proudfoot
Son. Where's your brother? He didn't want to let you come out here, Lona. You're too young now, where's your ma? She ought to know better. Now.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Miss Lily, come over here. I want you to listen to me. It's not my business, but will you let me give you some advice, Miss Lily, huh? Now, you settle this place. I'll see what I can do to help. And you and your brothers go somewhere else and start afresh. You can get a good price for your land. You do that. It's best. Yeah, we'll go. I'm not saying you've got to. I'm saying it'd be better. It'd be better for the kid. He's seen too much of this. It's not good. You gotta teach him to smile again. Act like a kid again. You understand? You understand?
Chester Proudfoot
Sure,
Lily Burch
I understand.
Marshal Matt Dillon
Okay. I'll be taking him along now. We'll stop off at your place with some clothes.
Lily Burch
All right?
Marshal Matt Dillon
We took the old man back to his place, got him dressed. His children said goodbye to him like they knew that they'd never see him again. Like there was no hope. Chester rode in. And the old man seemed real happy to go back with us to Dodge. He didn't know. He didn't care. On the way, we passed the doc and Danny riding out to take care of Dave's arm. Funny thing, the old man didn't even see the kid. He was prattling to us about the Indian war wars. The last I saw Danny Burchie, he was looking back over his shoulder at his paw and we heard him still crying a long way off.
Narrator
Gunsmoke under the direction of Norman Macdonald, stars William Conrad as Matt Dillon, U. S Marshal. Tonight's story was specially written for Gunsmoke by Anthony Ellis with music composed and conducted by Rex Corey. Featured in the cast were Richard Beals as Danny and Michael Ann Barrett as Lily, with Lee Millar, John Boehner and Lawrence Dobkin. Harley Bear as Chester. Gun Smoke is heard by our troops overseas through the worldwide facilities of the Armed Forces Radio Service. Join us again next week as Matt Dillon, U.S. marshal, fights to bring law and order out of the wild violence of the west in Gun Smoke. The New York Philharmonics celebrates its 110th birthday tomorrow and in observance there will be a repeat performance of Beethoven's Symphony number five. This work was featured on the first Philharmonic broadcast over 100 years ago. This is Roy Rowan speaking. America now listens to 105 million radio sets and listens most to the CBS Radio Network.
Danny Burch
Foreign.
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Chester Proudfoot
Sam.
Podcast Host: Andrew Rhynes
Episode Released: May 14, 2026
In this digitally restored installment of the classic radio drama Gunsmoke, Marshal Matt Dillon faces a tense family crisis when a troubled boy named Danny Burch comes into Dodge. What begins as a case of apparent juvenile mischief soon reveals deeper, darker turmoil within the Burch family—centered on a missing and unstable father whose actions threaten tragedy. The episode explores themes of family secrets, mental illness, pride, and the limits of law when private desperation turns outwardly violent.
“I figured if a kid runs away from me for doing nothing, then he’s been up to something.” — Chester Proudfoot ([03:38])
“You come snooping back again, me and my brother’s gonna be shooting at [you].” — Dave Burch ([14:18])
“You’re a liar. Pa never killed nobody!” — Danny Burch ([22:46])
“I knew it would happen like this someday. I knew it would. Boys figure it’d be shame on us all if word got out Pa had spells.” — Lily Burch ([24:41])
“You do that. It’s best... You gotta teach him to smile again... Act like a kid again. You understand?” — Marshal Matt Dillon ([27:06])
The script and performances maintain a somber, suspenseful tone fitting for the bleak realities at the heart of many Gunsmoke episodes. The dialog ranges from terse (among the Burch boys) to tenderly desperate (Lily and Danny), culminating in moments of quiet tragedy and reluctant resolve.
I Don’t Know captures a microcosm of the American frontier: the stigmatization of mental illness, the impact of family tragedy, and the limits of rough justice. Marshal Dillon strives for compassion and reason, but even he must ultimately defer to the law. The digitally restored audio, as highlighted by the podcast, deepens the immersion, rendering every rustle of prairie grass and crack of gunfire with a clarity that enhances the drama’s raw impact.