Indian Crazy | Gunsmoke (04-22-56)

Summary

Old Time Radio Westerns Podcast Summary

Episode: "Indian Crazy" | Gunsmoke (Original Air Date: April 22, 1956)

Release Date: August 1, 2025
Host: Andrew Rhynes

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Introduction

In this gripping episode of Gunsmoke, titled "Indian Crazy," listeners are transported to the rugged terrains surrounding Dodge City. Set against the backdrop of the Wild West, the story delves into themes of trust, revenge, and the thin line between sanity and madness. Andrew Rhynes expertly presents this classic radio drama, enhanced through meticulous digital restoration, allowing audiences to experience the timeless tale with unprecedented audio clarity.

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Initial Concerns: The Jollops' Arrival

The episode begins with Matt Dillon, the steadfast U.S. Marshal of Dodge City, interacting with the Jollops—Mr. and Mrs. Jollop—who have recently purchased the old Mather place near Salt Fork. The Jollops express unease about rumors of Comanche activity in the area:

Mrs. Jollop (04:36): "We're on our way now."

Mrs. Jollop (05:08): "I didn't come west to get captured by no Indians. I've read about that bad what they do to women."

Matt attempts to reassure them by stating that the Comanches have been inactive for years:

Matt Dillon (05:37): "Well, that was Comanche country. Yeah, but it isn't anymore. I doubt if a single Indian's been seen down there for two or three years. They're all on the reservation now."

Despite Matt's reassurances, doubts linger, especially after Bob Orrin informs them that the area remains fraught with danger, contradicting Matt's claims:

Will Gallop (04:44): "What we met this year, Bob Orrin. Right here in town today. Marshal Howe."

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Investigation Unfolds: Discovering the Grim Evidence

Matt accompanies the Jollops to their new property, only to find it in disarray and burned down:

Matt Dillon (07:02): "Look closer."

Upon closer inspection, they discover a fresh grave that raises suspicions:

Chester (07:35): "Oh, my goodness. Hey, looky there, Mr. Dillon. Somebody made a grave. It's fresh dug too."

Matt's investigation leads him to conclude that the situation is more sinister than mere Indian raids:

Matt Dillon (12:16): "There are three horses in that corral. Even a drunken Indian wouldn't leave a horse behind."

He deduces that Will Gallop, a local resident, may have personal motives tied to recent tragedies:

Matt Dillon (12:53): "Chester, there are only two people who told Jollop and his wife they'd be safe out here. Orin was one of them. Jalop's wife gets killed. He escapes somehow and comes here to take his revenge."

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Confrontation: Unveiling the Truth

As tensions escalate, Matt confronts Will Gallop about his suspicious behavior. In a tense exchange, Will reveals his tortured psyche:

Will Gallop (17:08): "You killed her? It was terrible, Marshall. She begged me, too. Begged me before they could get her. Ain't been right since. Not till now."

Will admits to shooting his wife to prevent her from falling into Indian hands, a tragic act that has driven him to madness and revenge:

Will Gallop (20:15): "And she was scared, Marshall. She was more scared than me, even."

In the climax of their confrontation, Will's internal turmoil culminates in a dramatic revelation and his eventual demise:

Will Gallop (21:47): "Oh, I shot myself. I shot everybody, Marshall. I'm the third one."

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Resolution: Healing and Closure

Matt Dillon reflects on the tragic events, emphasizing the profound impact of personal loss and the quest for justice:

Matt Dillon (22:52): "Charlotte. Yeah, I think maybe you are now."

The episode concludes with a somber reminder of the complexities faced by those living on the frontier, setting the stage for future challenges in Dodge City.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Matt Dillon (05:37): "Well, that was Comanche country. Yeah, but it isn't anymore. I doubt if a single Indian's been seen down there for two or three years. They're all on the reservation now."

• Chester (07:35): "Oh, my goodness. Hey, looky there, Mr. Dillon. Somebody made a grave. It's fresh dug too."

• Will Gallop (17:08): "You killed her? It was terrible, Marshall. She begged me, too. Begged me before they could get her. Ain't been right since. Not till now."

• Will Gallop (21:47): "Oh, I shot myself. I shot everybody, Marshall. I'm the third one."

• Matt Dillon (22:52): "Charlotte. Yeah, I think maybe you are now."

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Conclusion

"Indian Crazy" masterfully intertwines suspense, emotional depth, and moral dilemmas, showcasing why Gunsmoke remains a cornerstone of Western storytelling. Andrew Rhynes' dedication to digital restoration brings fresh life to this classic episode, allowing both longtime fans and new listeners to engage deeply with the narrative's enduring themes.

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Note: This summary intentionally omits advertisements, introductions, and outros to focus solely on the episode's content, ensuring a seamless and informative experience for those who have yet to listen.

Transcript

[Chester]

Foreign.

[Andrew Rines]

Welcome to the Old Time Radio Westerns. I'm your host Andrew Rines and before we get into this episode, I wanted to do a little PSA and remind you that I put out multiple shows a week of Old Time Radio Westerns. You can check them out by going to otrwesterns.com or looking up OTR Westerns on your podcast application of choice. We're releasing over 10 episodes a week so far, about a hundred a month. So definitely want you to check that out again otrwesterns.com and check it out. I also wanted to invite you to check out my sister podcast site otnetcast and that's n e t c a s t. So ot n e t c a s t netcast otnetcast.com we're currently releasing mystery genre shows and this is shows like the Shadow Escape, Suspense and the Whistler. And we have plans on bringing other shows to the network for you guys to listen to. So it's my non western old Time radio channel that I can kind of do other genres that not only I like, but hopefully you would like too. You can check us out by going to otnetcast.com or searching t N E T C A S T on your podcast app of choice. Now let's get into this episode. This episode is going to be Gunsmoke. Original Air date is April 22, 1956 and the title is Indian Crazy.

[Announcer]

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[Narrator]

Around Dodge City and in the territory on West. There's just one way to handle the killers and the spoilers, and that's with a U.S. marshal and the smell of dog.

[Announcer]

Gun smoke.

[Narrator]

Gun Smoke Starring William Conrad. The transcribed story of the violence that moved west with young America and the story of a man who moved with it.

[Matt Dillon]

I'm that man, Matt Dillon, United States Marshal. The first man they look for and the last they want to meet. It's a chancy job and it makes a man watchful and a little lone. Hey, Kenny, what's your hurry?

[Kitty]

I'm late for work, Matt. I should have been at the Long Branch an hour ago.

[Matt Dillon]

I was just over there. The place is full of nothing but loafers. Why, there isn't a dollar in the crowd.

[Kitty]

I never saw a loafer yet it didn't have at least a few pennies hid out somewhere.

[Matt Dillon]

Maybe you're right.

[Will Gallop]

Kidding.

[Kitty]

Of course. Sometimes you have to pull his boots off to find it. That's all in the day's work, Mr. Dun. Who's that with Chester?

[Matt Dillon]

I don't know him.

[Kitty]

Look at the spread of that man's feet, Matt. Looks like a buffalo.

[Matt Dillon]

They are pretty big.

[Will Gallop]

All right.

[Kitty]

I'll see you later, ma'.

[Will Gallop]

Am.

[Matt Dillon]

Okay. Good luck. Kidding.

[Chester]

Mr. Dillon, this here is Mr. And Ms. Jollop. The Jollops has bought theirselves old Mather place down at the head of Salt fork.

[Matt Dillon]

Oh, that's about 60 miles south of here, isn't it, Mr. Jollop?

[Will Gallop]

Well, that's what they tell me, Marshal. Course, we ain't never been there.

[Mrs. Jollop]

We're on our way now.

[Matt Dillon]

Well, you'll have a good neighbor down there, Ms. Jellop. Bob Orrin lives only about 10 or 15 miles from you.

[Chester]

Well, that's what they wanted to see about Mr. Dillon.

[Will Gallop]

What we met this year, Bob Orrin. Right here in town today. Marshall Howe.

[Matt Dillon]

That's it.

[Will Gallop]

No, see, we paid good money for that place, but, well, my wife and me, we about give up going down there. We've been hearing about that country. And we met this Orin fellow down the Santa Fe depot today. Now, he said twas all lies.

[Chester]

And they want you to tell them.

[Will Gallop]

The truth, Mr. Nelson.

[Bob Orrin]

Yes.

[Will Gallop]

What?

[Matt Dillon]

The truth about what?

[Mrs. Jollop]

About them Indians, Marshall. Them Comanches.

[Will Gallop]

Everybody but Bob Orrin. Everybody says that country down there is.

[Announcer]

Just full of them.

[Mrs. Jollop]

And he lives alone. He's got no woman with him but me. I didn't come west to get captured by no Indians. I've read about that bad what they do to women.

[Will Gallop]

I don't intend to expose my wife.

[Matt Dillon]

To nothing like that, Marshall.

[Mrs. Jollop]

We want you to tell us the truth, Marshall. You're the law here and we'll believe you.

[Matt Dillon]

Well, that was Comanche country. Yeah, but it isn't anymore. I doubt if a single Indian's been seen down there for two or three years. They're all on the reservation now.

[Mrs. Jollop]

Is that the truth, Marshall? You swear that's the truth?

[Matt Dillon]

Well, you can go out to Fort Dodge and ask the army.

[Will Gallop]

They'll tell you. No, no, we'll believe you.

[Matt Dillon]

Well, you can believe Bob Oren. He's lived there quite a while.

[Will Gallop]

All right, then, Laura.

[Mrs. Jollop]

Let'S get going. Will, I'll brave it.

[Will Gallop]

All right.

[Matt Dillon]

I've got a ride down your way in a few weeks. If you don't mind, I'll come by and say hello.

[Mrs. Jollop]

Oh, you'll be welcome, Marshall.

[Will Gallop]

Pleased to see you.

[Mrs. Jollop]

Goodbye.

[Chester]

Bye.

[Matt Dillon]

Goodbye.

[Chester]

Ain't you taking a little too much responsibility for that Mr. Dillon?

[Matt Dillon]

What do you mean, Chester?

[Chester]

Well, how can you say every Comanche in the country is on that reservation? I think they're taking a big chance. Maybe Bob Orin ain't seen none. But that don't mean nothing, not when it comes to Indians.

[Matt Dillon]

A chance in the weather too, Chester, and they know it.

[Chester]

Maybe so, but I'm glad it wasn't me.

[Will Gallop]

Told him.

[Chester]

I thought the old Mather place was right in them cottonwoods, Mr. Jones.

[Matt Dillon]

Yeah, it was.

[Chester]

Then the Jollops must have moved it. I sure don't see no house.

[Matt Dillon]

Look closer.

[Chester]

Yeah, there's something there.

[Will Gallop]

Yeah, why, it's all tore down.

[Chester]

It's just a heap. Mr. Dunley's been burned. They've had a fire out here.

[Matt Dillon]

Looks that way.

[Chester]

I don't see nobody around.

[Will Gallop]

No.

[Matt Dillon]

Let's have a look.

[Chester]

My, there sure ain't much left, is there?

[Matt Dillon]

Well, there's this.

[Will Gallop]

It's an arrow.

[Matt Dillon]

Uh huh. Comanche. There's another one. Half burned.

[Chester]

Oh, my goodness. Hey, looky there, Mr. Dillon. Somebody made a grave. It's fresh dug too.

[Matt Dillon]

But it's only one grave. It's not very deep either. Just a few inches.

[Chester]

You gonna dig it up?

[Matt Dillon]

I gotta find out who it is, Joseph.

[Chester]

Oh, you mean if it's Mr. J, then they took her alive?

[Matt Dillon]

That's right.

[Chester]

Yeah, but Comanches wouldn't bury nobody, Mr. Dillon.

[Matt Dillon]

No, they wouldn't.

[Will Gallop]

Turner.

[Chester]

She been scalped.

[Will Gallop]

Oh, ain't that awful?

[Matt Dillon]

Now we'll have to bury her proper, Chester. Then we'll ride over to Bob Orin's. Maybe they got him too.

[Will Gallop]

Yeah.

[Chester]

Well, where's Mr. Gallop? You think they took him prisoner?

[Matt Dillon]

I don't know, Chester. But look sharp now. We don't want him to get us.

[Announcer]

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[Mrs. Jollop]

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[Announcer]

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[Mrs. Jollop]

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[Bob Orrin]

Most Sam.

[Matt Dillon]

Let us tie him to the rail here, Chester.

[Chester]

All right, sir. Bob Warren. Pretty lucky. Doesn't look like them Indians been anywheres near here?

[Matt Dillon]

From the tracks of the jollops, it was a small party.

[Chester]

Yeah, well, I know. But that wouldn't keep him from coming over here.

[Matt Dillon]

Only a big party will hit every ranch, Chester. Small one attacks and then rides on for miles before trying it again. Now, wait a minute.

[Will Gallop]

What?

[Matt Dillon]

There's footprints.

[Chester]

Well, there's lots of footprints all over.

[Matt Dillon]

Yeah. Come on.

[Chester]

I guess Arn ain't home.

[Matt Dillon]

He's gotta be. Didn't you notice that saddled horse in his corral?

[Chester]

You gonna walk right in, Orin?

[Matt Dillon]

Hey, Orin. Marshall Dillon.

[Chester]

Oren, I told you there ain't nobody here.

[Matt Dillon]

Mr. Dillon, I'll look at the kitchen. Is here, Chester?

[Chester]

Why, it's Orange. He's been scalped too.

[Matt Dillon]

A bullet hole in his chest.

[Chester]

Them Comanches was here after all.

[Will Gallop]

I don't know.

[Chester]

You don't know? Well, they scalped him, didn't they?

[Matt Dillon]

Did you ever hear of Indians killing a man and not setting fire to his place?

[Chester]

No, I guess I never did.

[Matt Dillon]

There are three horses in that corral. Even drunken Indian wouldn't leave a horse behind.

[Chester]

Yeah, but he's been scalped.

[Matt Dillon]

Anybody with a sharp knife can scalp. You don't have to be an Indian to do that.

[Chester]

What do you mean?

[Matt Dillon]

Outside, those tracks I stopped to look at, they're made by a man wearing boots. About the biggest boots I ever saw.

[Chester]

You thinking of Will Gallop?

[Matt Dillon]

Those tracks aren't more than two days old. And Bob Orrin hasn't been dead any longer.

[Chester]

Yeah, but Gallop wouldn't come scalping me.

[Matt Dillon]

Comanche's killed his wife, Chester. We don't know what happened to him, but my guess is he's alive. The Indians don't take male prisoners his age.

[Chester]

But that don't say he done this to Bob Oren.

[Matt Dillon]

Chester, there are only two people who told Jollop and his wife they'd be safe out here. Orin was one of them. Jalop's wife gets killed. He escapes somehow and comes here to take his revenge. He did the Orin. What the Comanches did to her.

[Chester]

That's awful hard to believe, Mr. Dillon.

[Matt Dillon]

Now, he wouldn't be the first man driven crazy with grief.

[Chester]

Well, maybe.

[Matt Dillon]

And if it's true, I'm the next on his list. When we get back to Dodge, I got an idea Jalop will be there waiting for me.

[Kitty]

Evening, Matt.

[Matt Dillon]

Hello, Kitty.

[Kitty]

Sit down.

[Will Gallop]

Oh.

[Matt Dillon]

Any coffee left in that pot?

[Kitty]

Sure. And here's an extra cup.

[Matt Dillon]

Thanks.

[Kitty]

You look tired.

[Matt Dillon]

Well, we rode all Night, Kitty. I haven't been to bed yet.

[Kitty]

I know. Tessa came in the long branch. No luck, huh?

[Matt Dillon]

Not so far.

[Kitty]

You could be wrong about him. Matt Jollop might be in Colorado by now. Yeah, maybe he might have killed Bob Orin.

[Mrs. Jollop]

Sure.

[Kitty]

Kind of hard to believe he'd come to Dodge looking to scalp a gun Baron. U.S. marshal.

[Matt Dillon]

Well, I'm beginning to think maybe you're right, Kitt. Maybe I made a mistake about the whole thing.

[Kitty]

But somebody killed Oren.

[Matt Dillon]

Yeah, they sure did. Guess I better go out there and have another look around.

[Kitty]

With all those Comanches on the warpath?

[Matt Dillon]

No, there are only three or four of them, Kitty. Some young braves who jumped reservation last week.

[Kitty]

How do you know that?

[Matt Dillon]

I reported the whole business of Major Honeyman at Fort Dodge. He told me about it.

[Kitty]

Oh, Even so, isn't he doing anything about him?

[Chester]

Yeah.

[Matt Dillon]

He put a company of troopers in the field. Sure.

[Kitty]

All they'll do is kick up a lot of dust.

[Will Gallop]

Probably.

[Matt Dillon]

Well, Kenny, I think I'll turn in for a couple of hours. I need some sleep.

[Kitty]

The best idea you had yet.

[Matt Dillon]

Well, trusty cubs there. Will you tell him I've gone to my room, huh?

[Kitty]

Yeah, I'll tell him that.

[Will Gallop]

How?

[Matt Dillon]

Did you see Kenny, Chester?

[Chester]

Yes, sir, I did. I come in just after you left. I've been trying to catch you before.

[Will Gallop]

You got to your room here.

[Matt Dillon]

Oh, what is it? Did you find him?

[Chester]

No, sir. No, what I wanted to know is could I get some sleep, too?

[Matt Dillon]

Of course, cher. I thought you understood that.

[Chester]

Well, then I'll go back to office and lay down there. All right.

[Matt Dillon]

I'll come by later tonight when I wake up, huh?

[Chester]

All right, sir. I'll see you then.

[Will Gallop]

Don't move, Marshal. Just leave that gun there.

[Announcer]

On the table.

[Will Gallop]

Is his. A mighty short barreled shotgun, Marshal. I stole it off a Bob. Or it's loaded with buckshot. I've been waiting for you. I've been waiting hours. Busted in the back window, if that's what you wonder.

[Matt Dillon]

No, that's not what I'm wondering, Chollop.

[Will Gallop]

What?

[Matt Dillon]

I'm wondering how you got away from those Comanches.

[Will Gallop]

Seen them coming. Climbed up one of them big cottonwood trees. They looked, they never found it.

[Matt Dillon]

You mean you left your wife to fight him?

[Chester]

I left her all right.

[Will Gallop]

You betcha I left her. Coward. Terrible, them Indians. It was terrible. But I fixed Bob Orrin for it. He told me it was safe out there. Now I'm going to fix you. Going to take you right down by the river. Marshall going to fix you there. You just make one move on the way and I'll leave you in two big pieces. Now you walk.

[Announcer]

Say, where are you listening to Gunsmoke.

[Will Gallop]

In your car.

[Announcer]

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[Mrs. Jollop]

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[Announcer]

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[Will Gallop]

Fair enough, Marshall. Tis pretty down here, isn't it? All them nice cottonwood trees. My wife liked them cottonwood trees out to our place, Marshall. She liked them a whole lot.

[Matt Dillon]

Gallop. Killing me isn't gonna get your wife.

[Will Gallop]

And she was scared, Marshall. She was more scared than me, even. And I'll never get over it, watching them painted devils ride up. I ever see another Indiana, I'll kill myself. I'm still shaken.

[Matt Dillon]

You weren't shaken so much you couldn't run off and leave your wife.

[Will Gallop]

You betcha I left. I couldn't stand the sight of them savages. Well, that don't matter now. See here, Marshall got a knife in my belt. Good long knife. And you know just what I'm going to do after I shoot you, don't you?

[Matt Dillon]

Be quiet.

[Will Gallop]

Don't you tell me to be quiet. I said.

[Matt Dillon]

Listen.

[Will Gallop]

What?

[Matt Dillon]

There's something in that clump of elder on the river bank over there.

[Announcer]

I don't see nothing.

[Matt Dillon]

They're gone. You can't see them now, but they're out there. Wait a minute. They'll move any minute now.

[Bob Orrin]

Who?

[Announcer]

El Max.

[Will Gallop]

What? What do you say?

[Matt Dillon]

Indians. There are three of them. They were standing right against the river.

[Will Gallop]

Oh, no, no, not in the.

[Matt Dillon]

Watch. Right there. You see one of them standing up? You see him?

[Will Gallop]

Where? Tell me. Where is he?

[Matt Dillon]

Shoot him, Chalop. Shoot him.

[Will Gallop]

Yes, I will. I can't see him.

[Matt Dillon]

Give me the gun.

[Will Gallop]

Trick me, Rasher. You fallen.

[Matt Dillon]

Let go of it.

[Will Gallop]

No, My chest. Hit me in the chest.

[Matt Dillon]

I couldn't. Get your finger off the trigger.

[Will Gallop]

Gotta die bleeding all over.

[Matt Dillon]

I'm sorry, Jallop.

[Will Gallop]

Oh, I shot myself. I shot everybody, Marshall. I'm the third one. The third? Oh, I ain't a coward like you think. I'm scared of Injuns. But I didn't run off to leave my wife to him. Not alive, I didn't.

[Matt Dillon]

You mean you shot her before they got there?

[Will Gallop]

You killed her? It was terrible, Marshall. She begged me, too. Begged me before they could get her. Ain't been right since. Not till now. Now I know I done wrong. Sill and Bob aren't trying to kill you. I done wrong. But I'm all right now, Marshall. I'm all right now.

[Matt Dillon]

Charlotte. Yeah, I think maybe you are now.

[Narrator]

In a moment, our star, William Conrad.

[Mrs. Jollop]

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[Announcer]

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[Matt Dillon]

You know, a horse and buggy frontier doctor was about the most useful and beloved citizen than any community. But next week, Dodge learns that a man has been killed and that it was Doc Adams who killed him. And that was the West. Good night.

[Narrator]

Gun Smoke, produced and Directed by Norman McDonald. Stars William Conrad as Matt Dillon, U.S. marshal. Our story was specially written for Gun Smoke by John Meston, with music composed and conducted by Rex Corey. America's medical schools urgently need your help. Join the National Fund for Medical Education today. Write Medical Education, Box 313, New York City.

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[Will Gallop]

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[Announcer]

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[Will Gallop]

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[Narrator]

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[Bob Orrin]

Sam Ram. Sam.

[Podcast Host]

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[Andrew Rines]

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[Podcast Host]

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[Bob Orrin]

Sam.