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Andrew Rines
Welcome to the Old Time Radio Westerns. I'm your host, Andrew Rines. And let's get into this episode. This episode is going to be Gunsmoke. Original Air date is October 27, 1957 and the title is man and Boy. Thanks for listening and I hope you enjoy.
Narrator
Around Dodge City and in the territory on west, there's just one way to handle the killers and the spoilers, and that's with a U.S. marshal. And the smell of gun smoke. Gunsmoke, starring William Conrad. The story of the violence that moved west with young America. And the story of a man who moved with it.
Matt Dillon
I'm that man. Matt Dillon, United States Marshal. The first man they look for and the last they want to meet. It's a chancy job and it makes a man watchful and a little lonely.
Tobin Marshall
Wish I hadn't never brought these new boots off and pruning, rushing around like this.
Miss Kitty
Hey, where's the fire, Justin?
Tobin Marshall
I'm sorry, Miss Kitty. I just ain't got time to stop and visit. I gotta get over to the office and tell em if you're Dylan something.
Miss Kitty
Well, it must be off. Unfortunately.
Tobin Marshall
Yes, ma', am, it sure is. I'm sorry, Miss Kitty. I'll see you later. Like I've been running away, sir. Dear Mr. Dillon. Be quiet.
Miss Kitty
Be quiet.
Tobin Marshall
Just did I. I've got 35 cents in this pot. Cards, man.
Matt Dillon
Let me see the Doc, you're just gonna.
Tobin Marshall
Yeah, I'll be honest.
Matt Dillon
Give me three.
Miss Kitty
All right.
Tobin Marshall
One, two. There you go, Matt. Mr. Dillon, I've got to talk to you.
Matt Dillon
Hold it a minute, will you, Chester? I'm about to win myself 35 cents.
Tobin Marshall
Yeah, and you might be about to get killed too.
Miss Kitty
And I'm taking one card, ma'.
Tobin Marshall
Am.
Matt Dillon
Second one.
Tobin Marshall
Mr. Dillon, there's a fellow road in town looking for you. I just heard him over at the Dodge House asking about you. And I am raising another five cents. Mister.
Matt Dillon
You're losing your head, aren't you, Doc?
Tobin Marshall
Oh, but he's kind of young. But I think He's a gunman, Mr. Dylan. I think he's heading over here now. If you ask me, I think he's coming over here to kill somebody. Oh, my goodness. Yes, sir. One of you fellas Marshal Dillon?
Matt Dillon
Yeah, yeah, I am.
Tobin Marshall
My name's Crowley. Tobin Marshall.
Matt Dillon
How are you, Mr. Tobin? Will you wait just a minute? All right, Doc, I'm calling you.
Tobin Marshall
Two pair, Matt. Kings high. I guess that's enough.
Matt Dillon
Just a minute, Doc.
Tobin Marshall
Three sevens. That was a three. Seven. Of all the sneaky luck.
Matt Dillon
Thanks, Doc. Chester, Is this the fellow?
Tobin Marshall
Yes, yes he is.
Matt Dillon
What can I do for you, Mr. Tobin?
Tobin Marshall
Well, I'm a special deputy from California, Marshall. Oh, for the.
Miss Kitty
Oh.
Tobin Marshall
I'm after a man who's wanted for stage hold up and murder. I got reason to think he's here in Dodge. Name's Jess Ricker. Jess Ricker? You know him?
Matt Dillon
Yeah, we know him. He's been around for a couple of weeks.
Tobin Marshall
You know where I can find him?
Matt Dillon
No, not right this minute. I thought. Tell you what. You leave the warrant with me though, and I'll pick him up for you sometime this evening.
Tobin Marshall
I'll do the picking up, if you don't mind.
Matt Dillon
No.
Tobin Marshall
All I asked you was where I can find him.
Matt Dillon
What about your authority? You're kind of out of your territory.
Tobin Marshall
I'll worry about authority after I get Ricky.
Matt Dillon
You know what he's like. He's tough with his hands and fast with a gun.
Tobin Marshall
I didn't come here crying for help.
Matt Dillon
How long you been a lawman?
Tobin Marshall
Two months, if it's any of your business. Uh huh.
Matt Dillon
Now that's your first assignment.
Tobin Marshall
What difference does that make? What are you trying to say? I ain't big enough to handle it?
Matt Dillon
Now wait just a minute.
Tobin Marshall
You think I can't bring a man in without run to get somebody else to do my job?
Matt Dillon
Nobody's doubting your ability.
Tobin Marshall
Look, Marshall, if you got the idea there's a reward out for this fellow, you're crazy.
Matt Dillon
Why you.
Tobin Marshall
Easy, easy. No matter.
Matt Dillon
I never took any reward on an outlaw in my life.
Tobin Marshall
Well then, what's your reason for trying to horn in on this?
Matt Dillon
None that you'd understand, Tobin.
Tobin Marshall
All right.
Matt Dillon
I don't know where Jess Ricker holds up, but he always hits the saloons in the evening around 9 o'. Clock. Either the Lady Gay or the long branch.
Tobin Marshall
Thanks, I'll be there. Good day, gentlemen.
Matt Dillon
Oh, wait a minute. Before you go, maybe you better shake hands with Doc Adams, as the next time you meet up with him you probably won't be able to. Doc's the coroner here.
Miss Kitty
Matt.
Tobin Marshall
Huh?
Miss Kitty
A funny thing happened today, Matt. I saw a green horse.
Tobin Marshall
Huh?
Miss Kitty
Yeah. And it had purple wings. It was flying around up over Boot Hill.
Matt Dillon
Oh, is that so?
Miss Kitty
Yeah, it was singing just like a metal arc.
Tobin Marshall
Huh.
Miss Kitty
Matt, did you hear what I just said?
Matt Dillon
What?
Miss Kitty
Oh.
Matt Dillon
Oh, yeah, sure, sure, Kelly, that sounds great.
Miss Kitty
Oh, come on, Matt.
Tobin Marshall
What's it all about?
Matt Dillon
What? What's what all about?
Miss Kitty
You haven't heard a word I've said since you walked in here. What have you got on your mind?
Matt Dillon
Oh, it's that fella over there at the end of the bar. Kitty.
Miss Kitty
Huh? Oh, you mean Jess Ricker.
Tobin Marshall
Yeah, you know him?
Miss Kitty
He comes in all the time. I try to avoid him as much as possible.
Matt Dillon
That's a good idea.
Miss Kitty
How does he figure with you, Matt?
Matt Dillon
Hell, he doesn't, not the way things stand.
Miss Kitty
Well, then I don't see what's bothering you.
Matt Dillon
Kitty, I want to ask you something. How do you keep somebody from making a fool of himself when he's dead set on doing it?
Miss Kitty
That's easy. You don't.
Matt Dillon
Yeah.
Miss Kitty
Who is he, miss?
Matt Dillon
Oh, a deputy from California. He's awful green, Kitty. He's on his first assignment. He's going around with his backup. He's touchier than a bear with a boil.
Miss Kitty
Jess Ricker's his first assignment?
Matt Dillon
Yeah, so he says. He won't even show me the warrant. I'm afraid that I'd be asking for help. Well, without it untied, there's no charge against Ricker here in Dodge. Not so far, anyway.
Tobin Marshall
Mr. Dillon.
Matt Dillon
Oh, yeah, what is it, Chester?
Tobin Marshall
He's on his way over here, Mr. Dillon. He got tired of waiting at the Lady Gay.
Miss Kitty
The fellow you were talking about, Matt?
Matt Dillon
Yeah. Chester's been keeping an eye on him.
Miss Kitty
Well, what are you gonna do?
Matt Dillon
There's nothing much I can do.
Tobin Marshall
There he is. There he comes. Good evening, Marshall.
Matt Dillon
How are you, Toby?
Tobin Marshall
You know, I've been waiting across the street there for an hour. He didn't show, Tobin.
Matt Dillon
The two of us could take him without much trouble.
Tobin Marshall
You know we already been through that, Marshall.
Matt Dillon
Yeah, I know we have.
Tobin Marshall
All I want to know is where I can find him. Have you got any idea?
Matt Dillon
Yep. He's standing over there at the end of the bar.
Tobin Marshall
Which one is he?
Matt Dillon
Big fellow with a scar across his jaw.
Tobin Marshall
But listen, I got a warrant to serve, Marshall.
Miss Kitty
Thanks.
Tobin Marshall
Anyway. His trouble is he's just plain too big for his britches. Your name Jess Ricker? What's it to you, mister, when you're under arrest for robbery and murder? Arrest? You hear that, boys? This little sawed off prairie dog says I'm under arrest. I mean it, Ricker. You're bothering me, mister. Put out your hands. Bracelet, huh? And you really aiming to put them on me? I am. All right, I'll put out my hand one at a time. You gonna arrest somebody? Would you? All right, I'll teach you.
Matt Dillon
All right, hold it, Ricker. Now, you put your hand on that gun. It'll be the last move you Ever make?
Tobin Marshall
I was. I was just.
Matt Dillon
Keep those boots to yourself. You kick him and I'll drop you.
Tobin Marshall
I wasn't doing nothing, Marshall. I was standing here minding my own business. He jumped me.
Matt Dillon
Shut up, Tobin. Chester, get some water and throw it on him, huh?
Miss Kitty
That's right.
Tobin Marshall
Well, Sam, will you hand me a bucket of water? Hey, Marshall, how come he's trying to arrest somebody here in your town?
Matt Dillon
I told you to shut up.
Tobin Marshall
All right, stand back, folks.
Matt Dillon
You all right, tobin? Yeah.
Tobin Marshall
Yeah, I'm all right.
Matt Dillon
You want me to serve that warrant for you now?
Tobin Marshall
What warrant, Marshall?
Matt Dillon
Give it to me, Tobin.
Tobin Marshall
If I got a warrant to serve, I'd serve it myself. Is that what you're aiming to do? I'll get you if it's the last thing I ever do. Either dead or alive. I don't care which. Marshal. He threatened my life. You heard him.
Matt Dillon
Yeah, I heard him.
Tobin Marshall
Fine law abiding citizen like me that ain't got a single charge against his name here in Dodge City. Man like me has got to protect hisself. For instance, if he was to come walking up the street toward Delivery stable about 10 o' clock tomorrow morning, I might figure it was hostile, seeing as how he just threatened my life. I'll be there, Ricky. And so will I, mister. Bring your handcuffs. I want to pin them through your ear.
Matt Dillon
You know something, Tobin? You're a stubborn fool.
Tobin Marshall
Well, Mr. Dillon, if I was you, I wouldn't fret myself about it. He's a growed up man, ain't he?
Matt Dillon
Well, he's old enough to be.
Tobin Marshall
That's what I mean. And so if he ain't, then whose fault is it?
Matt Dillon
I don't know, Chester. His own, I guess. And I just keep thinking I could have made the same fool mistakes when I started out as a lawman.
Tobin Marshall
Morning, Matt. Well, we sure couldn't have better weather for it.
Matt Dillon
Better weather for what, Doc?
Tobin Marshall
Why, for the shooting, of course. Don't tell me you're heading toward the livery stable just by accident.
Matt Dillon
I wouldn't try to tell anything to an old ghoul like you.
Tobin Marshall
Old ghoul? Oh, man, I'm here on an errand of mercy. I got my tool kit and everything.
Matt Dillon
Yeah, sure. And it's probably stuffed full of blank forms for your coroner's report.
Tobin Marshall
Well, I. I did bring a couple just in case maybe Tobin won't show up. You're wrong, Chester. He's already showed. He's coming out of the Dodge House now.
Matt Dillon
You don't have to sound so joyful. About it, Doc?
Tobin Marshall
Well, there's nothing I can do about it, Matt. You neither, for that matter.
Matt Dillon
Yeah, I know.
Tobin Marshall
I think the street sure is deserted, ain't it? Morning, gentlemen. I hope you're not planning to interfere, Marshall.
Matt Dillon
Looks like the only way I could it be to jail you.
Tobin Marshall
Tobin, you wouldn't do that.
Matt Dillon
Don't be too sure. I've thought about it.
Tobin Marshall
Oh, no, you're too much of a lawman, Marshall.
Matt Dillon
It's too bad you're not. You're not half as concerned about the law as you are about your own half baked pride.
Tobin Marshall
If Ricker gets me, you get him. So the law wins either way. Good day, gentlemen. Nice talking to you. I hope he's better with a gun than he was with his fists.
Matt Dillon
He's not good enough for just rigor. But if I horned in on it, they'd probably make him some mighty go from me.
Tobin Marshall
What are you gonna do, Mr. Dillon?
Matt Dillon
Just watch him die, I guess.
Tobin Marshall
Mr. Dylan, you gotta stop him.
Matt Dillon
He's not my responsibility.
Tobin Marshall
That's right, Matt. Now I don't blame you a bit.
Matt Dillon
What am I supposed to be as nurse?
Miss Kitty
Oh, no, no.
Tobin Marshall
Of course, nobody can expect it. Yes, Rickard? Just come down the liver stable. I see.
Matt Dillon
Tobin's a fool. It's his own fault.
Tobin Marshall
Oh, you're absolutely right there. Oh yes. He's bringing the whole thing on himself.
Matt Dillon
For two cents I'd go back to the office and forget about him.
Tobin Marshall
That's exactly what you should do. Oh yes. If you'll glance down the street there, you'll notice they're not more than a hundred feet apart.
Matt Dillon
What of it, Doc? If you think for one minute I'm going to take any part in this ship. You heard him, didn't you? He doesn't want any help.
Tobin Marshall
That's true, Matt. Yeah, that's true. There's going to be some shooting any second.
Matt Dillon
Ask him three times and that'll be enough. Oh, come on, let's get down there before it's too late.
Miss Kitty
Matt.
Tobin Marshall
Now wait a minute, Matt. It's none of your responsibility if that young idiot wants to die.
Matt Dillon
Shut up, Doc. A man doesn't mean everything he's says.
Tobin Marshall
So I've noticed.
Matt Dillon
Wrecker will try to make him draw first. So it'll make it self defense and keep me out of it.
Tobin Marshall
Okay.
Matt Dillon
And Tobin's just stupid enough to fall for it.
Tobin Marshall
It's too late, Matt. Tobin. Seen you coming. Hey, Tobin, hold up.
Matt Dillon
He walked right into it.
Tobin Marshall
The self defense marshal. He draw on me. You seen him do it?
Matt Dillon
Yeah, I saw him. All right. Put away your gun, Wrecker. Tobin.
Tobin Marshall
Here. Here, let me see him. Stand back. Open the shirt here. Well, that guy caught him high in the shoulder, man. He'll pull through it all right.
Matt Dillon
Dobin, can you hear me?
Miss Kitty
Yeah.
Matt Dillon
All right, then listen to me. You had your show and it fell in on you. Now, you give me that warrant and I'll serve it for you.
Tobin Marshall
No, Marc.
Matt Dillon
Look, you've already proved yourself. If that's what you had to do, I'll.
Tobin Marshall
I'll get over this. I'll get him yet.
Matt Dillon
There may not be another chance. He's got a bedroll tied on his saddle and he's fixing to ride out. Now, you say he's a murderer. You gonna let him get away?
Tobin Marshall
I'll catch up with him. I'll find him again.
Matt Dillon
Yeah, Suppose you don't?
Tobin Marshall
That's my job, Marshall.
Matt Dillon
It's the law's job. And you're only part of it. Now, what are you gonna be? A stubborn kid or a lawman?
Tobin Marshall
I don't know what you mean.
Matt Dillon
Make up your mind. He's on his horse. What are you, two of them, a boy or a man?
Tobin Marshall
Warrants.
Matt Dillon
Inside my fist. All right, look after him.
Narrator
Dust.
Tobin Marshall
Now, you be careful, Mr. Jones.
Matt Dillon
Hey, Wrecker, get off that horse.
Tobin Marshall
What's your trouble, Marshall? I thought we agreed it was self defense.
Matt Dillon
Got nothing to do with that. I got a warrant here for your arrest on a charge of murder.
Tobin Marshall
So I hollered for help. Marshall, I don't think I cotton to you serving that warrant any more than I did for him to.
Matt Dillon
I don't much care what you cotton to, Rickard. You shouldn't have tried it.
Tobin Marshall
Rickard, you broke my leg.
Matt Dillon
Now, don't worry about it. You and Tubman can get well together. And I think he'd like the pleasure of taking you back to California.
Tobin Marshall
You'll never get me there. I'll get you there all right, Ricker, if I have to drag you by the hair.
Matt Dillon
You know something, Ricker? He's just stubborn enough to do that if he has to.
Tobin Marshall
Sam.
Narrator
Gun smoke, produced and directed by norman macdonald. Stars william conrad as matt dillon, u.s. marshal. Featured in the cast were parley bear as chester, howard mcnear as doc, and georgia ellis as kitty. George walsh speaking. Join us again next week for another specially transcribed story on gun smoke. This is the united states armed forces radio and television service.
Tobin Marshall
Sam foreign.
Andrew Rines
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Tobin Marshall
Sam.
Podcast Host: Andrew Rhynes
Original Broadcast: October 27, 1957
Podcast Release: June 28, 2026
This episode of Gunsmoke, digitally restored and introduced by Andrew Rhynes, is titled “Man and Boy.” The story centers on Matt Dillon (U.S. Marshal of Dodge City) getting entangled in the ambitions of a young deputy from California, Tobin, on his first assignment: bringing in a dangerous outlaw, Jess Ricker. The narrative explores pride, inexperience, the burdens of law enforcement, and the line between boyhood and manhood.
Tobin, the Rookie Deputy:
Marshal Dillon’s Reluctance:
“How long you been a lawman?” — Matt Dillon (04:31)
“Kitty, I want to ask you something. How do you keep somebody from making a fool of himself when he's dead set on doing it?” — Matt Dillon (07:01)
“If he was to come walking up the street toward Delivery stable about 10 o’clock tomorrow morning, I might figure it was hostile, seeing as how he just threatened my life.” — Tobin (11:09)
“Just watch him die, I guess.” — Matt Dillon (14:11)
“What are you gonna be? A stubborn kid or a lawman?” — Matt Dillon (17:14)
“You and Tobin can get well together. And I think he’d like the pleasure of taking you back to California.” — Matt Dillon (18:26)
The episode delivers the classic Gunsmoke blend of gritty realism, dry humor, and moral questioning. Matt Dillon is stoic but deeply ethical, Kitty is sharp and compassionate, and Tobin’s mixture of bravado and vulnerability creates a believable rookie. The dialogue is brisk, witty, and marked by both camaraderie and tension.
“Man and Boy” sifts the difference between prideful stubbornness and true manhood through a tense, character-driven story of law, justice, and personal growth. Rather than a simple gunfight narrative, it’s a meditation on when to stand alone and when to listen—the heart of many great Westerns.