
Original Air Date: October 23, 1960Host: Andrew RhynesShow: GunsmokePhone: (707) 98 OTRDW (6-8739) Stars:• William Conrad (Matt Dillion)• Parley Baer (Chester)• Georgia Ellis (Kitty)• Howard McNear (Doc)Special Guests:• Jeanne Bates• Barney Phillips• H...
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Matt Dillon
Welcome to the Old Time Radio Westerns. I'm your host Andrew Rines and I'm excited to bring you another episode absolutely free. This is one of over 80 episodes released monthly for your enjoyment. Now let's get into this episode. Around Dodge City and in the territory on west, there's just one way to handle the killers and the spoilers, and that's with a U.S. marshal and the smell of gun smoke. Gun Smoke Starring William William Conrad. The story of the violence that moved west with young America and the story of a man who moved with it. I'm that man Matt Dillon, United States Marshal, the first man they look for and the last they want to meet. It's a chancy job and it makes a man watchful and a little lone.
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Phoebe Appleby
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Phoebe Appleby
Was getting a love letter every day.
Matt Dillon
The way he races off after the meal. Yeah, he sure likes to pick it up every morning, doesn't he? I'll say that. He barely takes time to chew his food before he's off after it. I wouldn't worry about Chester, Doc. He gets his nourishment all right. Oh, I know he does. But I could write a new medical book on his digestive process. Good idea. Why don't you do that, Doc? Chester'd sure like to be famous. Yeah, but I'm not so sure. He'd like for me to cut him open. You're probably right about that. You coming in the office?
Phoebe Appleby
Not this time, Matt. Thank you.
Matt Dillon
I got a call to make. All right, Doc.
Phoebe Appleby
Well, but I might give you another.
Matt Dillon
Lesson in checkers after supper. You're sure welcome to try.
Phoebe Appleby
All right, then. I'll see you later.
Matt Dillon
So on the US Marshal ought to be where folks can find it. Hello there, Finn. It seems to me even a US Marshal has a right to some breakfast. Sure took your time at it. Hell, I'm here now. Who's this fellow with you? That's what I come about. Listen here, Marshall. Can a man run his own cattle drive or can't he. It seems to me you've always run yours, Finn. What's the trouble? A man don't have to have nobody riding with him less than he wants, does he, Marshal? Of course he doesn't. You know that. Well, then lock her up. Lock who up? This is lying contrary mule headed woman. Woman, come here. Turn around so Marshall can see you. But you are.
Phoebe Appleby
Take your hands off me.
Matt Dillon
See, Marshall? See? Now just a minute.
Phoebe Appleby
You have no right to keep me here, either of you.
Matt Dillon
Your smart talk won't do you no good around here. You've been breaking the law, like I've been saying Right along.
Phoebe Appleby
There is no law that.
Matt Dillon
Both of you quiet down. All right now, Finn, what's this all about? She wouldn't get Marshall. That's all there is to it. She hung on like a stray cat. You mean she rode up all the way from Texas? No, she joined up when we come to the Cimarron. She was pesky as a tick at Deep Hole Crossing. You got an idea what a woman can do to a cattle driver?
Phoebe Appleby
I merely want to observe.
Matt Dillon
Well, I ain't carrying you along to Abilene. You lock her up, Marty. Now, wait a minute, Finn. Wait a minute. I'm not sure there's any reason to lock her up. She's an unwomanly woman, that's what she is. Unwomanly. All right, hold on there. Here now, Marshall. Slashing at a man with a quirk. That's disturbing the peace. You gotta lock her up.
Phoebe Appleby
You can't talk to me like that.
Matt Dillon
Hold on. All right, Finn, you. You go along. I'll take care of this. Better put the irons on her, too. Just let me worry about it. I'm just warning. I said go on.
Phoebe Appleby
Fine specimen of a man.
Matt Dillon
Never mind about that. What's your name?
Phoebe Appleby
I don't have to submit to interrogation.
Matt Dillon
I said, what's your name?
Phoebe Appleby
Phoebe Appleby.
Matt Dillon
All right, Ms. Appleby. I suppose you told me what you were doing hanging onto Finn's cattle train.
Phoebe Appleby
I have already told you. I was observing a cattle drive. Exactly. There was no reason for him to object.
Matt Dillon
Well, I don't know how it is where you come from, Ms. Appleby, but out here a cattle drive isn't figured to be a place for a woman. Trail boss is not gonna welcome you.
Phoebe Appleby
He had no right to speak as he did.
Matt Dillon
You wouldn't leave when he asked you to, would you?
Phoebe Appleby
No, I wouldn't leave. A journalist has to become accustomed to not being welcome.
Matt Dillon
A journalist?
Phoebe Appleby
That's right, Marshall. I'm here to write a true picture of the West. And I must say I'm not impressed.
Matt Dillon
A woman dressed in man's clothes isn't given a true picture herself.
Phoebe Appleby
I don't need any lectures from you.
Matt Dillon
You're not gonna get any. All right, come on back here.
Phoebe Appleby
Where? What for?
Matt Dillon
I'm gonna lock you up until I can figure out what to do with you.
Phoebe Appleby
I've committed no crime.
Matt Dillon
I don't want anybody else to commit one either.
Phoebe Appleby
My paper will hear about this.
Matt Dillon
Yeah, I may write him a letter myself. Now, come on.
Phoebe Appleby
You better have another beer, Matt, to calm your nerves.
Matt Dillon
It is not that funny, Kitty.
Phoebe Appleby
You'll have to admit this one woman as you're more upset than the last few gunmen you've had to contend with.
Matt Dillon
I know what to do with a.
Phoebe Appleby
Gunman and not with a woman. Is that it?
Matt Dillon
Ms. Russell, when you're through enjoying the big joke, maybe I can ask you to help me, huh?
Phoebe Appleby
Oh, sure, Matt. You know I'll help. What do you want me to do?
Matt Dillon
Well, she's. She's got to have a place to stay.
Phoebe Appleby
You're gonna let her go, then?
Matt Dillon
I locked her up more for her own protection than anything else. No telling what had happened to her if she walked up Front Street.
Phoebe Appleby
I thought you said she wasn't very well. That she wouldn't exactly turn man's head.
Matt Dillon
Oh, she's no looker, Kitty. It's the man's get up she's wearing. She's a sight. The rowdies aren't going to make it easy for her, that's all.
Phoebe Appleby
Well, you better get her some clothes.
Matt Dillon
Yeah, yeah, that'll help some.
Phoebe Appleby
And I think Ma Smolly let her stay in the back room until the woman. What's her name?
Matt Dillon
Oh, Appleby. Phoebe Appleby.
Phoebe Appleby
Until Phoebe makes up her mind what she wants to do.
Matt Dillon
Kitty, you got some clothes she could wear? Maybe.
Phoebe Appleby
Well, I don't know, Matt. What size is she?
Matt Dillon
Well, she's about. Well, you know, about that high, I guess. And, well, she's not very big around.
Phoebe Appleby
Well, thanks, but I think I'd better see for myself.
Matt Dillon
Yeah, I guess maybe you better.
Phoebe Appleby
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Matt Dillon
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Matt Dillon
Back here, Kitty. Miss Appleby, this is Kitty Russell. She's come to help you.
Phoebe Appleby
Hello, Phoebe. I don't need any help from you. Well, somebody ought to help you get some clothes. My clothes are waiting for me in Abilene. Not going to do you much good in Dodge. If you'd stand up and let me look at you, maybe I could find something to fit you. I suppose even Dodge City has a shop that sells dresses. There's a general store. It sells dresses. It sells dresses. I suppose it'll have to do. We managed to get along. Here. What's this? I should think you could see it's a purse. Miss Russell, you may purchase me a dress. Something in a pale yellow. I should think of good material. Something better than calico. Oh, of course, we couldn't expect you to wear calico. And perhaps you can get me some suitable under things. I'll try. All right if I go now, Matt?
Matt Dillon
Yeah, sure, Kitty. You might find out about Ma Smalley's room, too.
Phoebe Appleby
What's that?
Matt Dillon
Well, we're looking up a room for you to stay in, Ms. Appleby.
Phoebe Appleby
Would that be in a boarding house?
Matt Dillon
Yeah.
Phoebe Appleby
Miss Russell, on your way back with my dress, would you please engage a room at the hotel, Ma?
Matt Dillon
I guess you might as well, Kitty. It'll save Ma Smollet some trouble.
Phoebe Appleby
Sure, Miss Russell. Yeah, Phoebe? Please get a room that's suitable for me, will you? That won't be easy, but I'll try.
Matt Dillon
I'm glad to see your appetite has returned, Matt. Forever more. I didn't know you'd been feeling poorly, Mr. Jones. I'm all right, Chester. He was off his feet at noon, Justin. He was. I'd say it was woman trouble, wouldn't you, Kitty?
Phoebe Appleby
She'd take my appetite away.
Matt Dillon
Well, now, of course I ain't sorry.
Phoebe Appleby
But it sounds like you're being mighty.
Matt Dillon
Hard on a poor, misguided female lady.
Phoebe Appleby
You all right, Miss Kitty?
Matt Dillon
It's merely a case of smothered imprecation, Chester. What's that, Doc?
Phoebe Appleby
Is that something serious?
Matt Dillon
Never mind, Jester. Just finish your dinner and let's get out of here. Oh, but Doc says she's got Marshall. Yeah, Pete? I got this note for you from her. Oh, from who? That lady. That table over there. Oh, thanks. Well, go ahead. Go ahead and read it. Oh, yeah. She wants to talk to me. She does? Who's it? Strange woman in town.
Phoebe Appleby
You've been talking about her all through dinner. That woman over there in the yellow dress. Yeah? That's Phoebe Appleby.
Matt Dillon
But she doesn't look the way Matt described her. She's not bad looking at all. As a matter of fact, she's a very handsome woman.
Phoebe Appleby
Well, Matt, she's waiting.
Matt Dillon
Yeah? You wanted to see me?
Phoebe Appleby
Yes, I did. Sit down.
Matt Dillon
Thank you. What did you want to see me about?
Phoebe Appleby
I guess I owe you an apology for my appearance earlier today.
Matt Dillon
No, there's no need for that.
Phoebe Appleby
Yes, I think there is. A woman should always look her best, don't you agree?
Matt Dillon
I guess that's up to the woman.
Phoebe Appleby
That's very clever of you. I had a reason, of course. I was so anxious to get the story of the cattle drive.
Matt Dillon
Very few women look their best under those circumstances, Ms. Appleby.
Phoebe Appleby
No, no, of course not. But I do think a woman should have a chance at a career. Don't you, Marshall?
Matt Dillon
I guess that depends on the woman, too.
Phoebe Appleby
How about me?
Matt Dillon
Well, Ms. Appleby.
Phoebe Appleby
Call me Phoebe.
Matt Dillon
Phoebe is this doesn't seem like you'd need a career.
Phoebe Appleby
What do you mean?
Matt Dillon
It's just that rather handsome woman.
Phoebe Appleby
Your ideas have changed since this morning, haven't they?
Matt Dillon
Well, so have you.
Phoebe Appleby
Not really. I still want to observe. Send back a true story of the way things are in the West. The wild, wild West.
Matt Dillon
We aren't that wild. We aren't that interesting either.
Phoebe Appleby
Then I'll have to observe that, too.
Matt Dillon
Listen, Phoebe, there are a lot better things for a woman to observe.
Phoebe Appleby
Are you afraid some big man with a gun will walk me into your office again and ask you to lock me up?
Matt Dillon
Maybe.
Phoebe Appleby
Well, it's not going to happen this time. This time I'll be right where you can watch me.
Matt Dillon
I'm glad to hear that.
Phoebe Appleby
I'm going to stay here and dodge acting like a lady. Until the next time you go out to round up a prisoner.
Matt Dillon
No. Then what?
Phoebe Appleby
Well, then I'll ride out with you.
Matt Dillon
Hold on.
Phoebe Appleby
I should have thought of it before riding out on a manhunt. That'll be a story that's sent back to Philadelphia.
Matt Dillon
I'm afraid that's a story that you're going to have to make up.
Phoebe Appleby
Give me a chance. I can ride. I can even shoot. I wouldn't hinder you.
Matt Dillon
Come to think of it, you might even hinder whoever I was after.
Phoebe Appleby
Don't laugh at me, Marshall. I'm serious.
Matt Dillon
I'm serious, too, Phoebe. I couldn't take you out on government business.
Phoebe Appleby
You're afraid. You're afraid to let me go with you.
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Phoebe Appleby
Hello, Doc. Sit down.
Matt Dillon
Thank you. Thank you, Kitty.
Phoebe Appleby
Have a drink. Oh, thank you, Kitty, no. I've got too much to do yet, huh?
Matt Dillon
I actually came in to look for Matt.
Phoebe Appleby
He isn't here.
Matt Dillon
Oh. Well, here.
Phoebe Appleby
I might find him. No, Doc, I don't. I haven't seen much of him lately.
Matt Dillon
Oh, I see.
Phoebe Appleby
What do you mean, oh, I see? Oh, nothing. Nothing really.
Matt Dillon
No, it's just that you don't seem.
Phoebe Appleby
Very happy with Matt just now. I'm not happy or unhappy. Just that I hate to see him make it a fool of himself.
Matt Dillon
Oh, truly.
Phoebe Appleby
Think that's the way the wind blows, huh? That woman's after something from that document. My guess is she's gonna get it.
Matt Dillon
Well, now, I don't know about that, Gideon. I must say, though, that she has turned out to be a real looker.
Phoebe Appleby
Hadn't you? Oh, a new dress never hurt any woman, Doc. Especially when she's been wearing trousers. Oh, yes, but you get, she.
Matt Dillon
Oh, great heavens.
Phoebe Appleby
What's the matter?
Matt Dillon
What in tarnish is that woman doing in here?
Phoebe Appleby
Looks to me like she's going right up to the bar. Excuse me, Doc. That's right, Bartender, leave the bottle. Hello, Phoebe. Why, Ms. Russell. That's right. Of course. This is where you work, isn't it? I'm an owner of this saloon. But it isn't a very good place for unescorted women. Phoebe, if this whiskey and any indication, it isn't a very good place for anybody. I'd really suggest, Ms. Russell, that you improve its quality. The whiskey should be the least of your worries. I'm not really worried, Ms. Russell. Well, you should be. Women just don't come into the Long Branch, baby. Be smart of you to leave. I have a right to observe, Ms. Russell. The American people have a right to know what goes on in these western places. I can tell you that in this saloon they drink. Are you a of what I might say in my article? No, I'm not afraid. Go ahead, observe. I'll be here in case you need help. I'm sure I won't call for help, Ms. Russell.
Matt Dillon
Let's goin it, little lady.
Phoebe Appleby
Who are you?
Matt Dillon
Just call me Pen, ma'. Am. I sure do like a woman who knows her own mind.
Phoebe Appleby
Well, that's a refreshing attitude, I must say.
Matt Dillon
That's a what? Hey, R. Come up this way. I got me a fancy talking woman for sure. You better watch out, pimp. Them kind is dangerous. A not when they're so pretty. Let me buy you a drink, lady.
Phoebe Appleby
No, thank you. I have one.
Matt Dillon
Oh, come on. I got me plenty of money. I got me enough money to buy everybody a drink.
Phoebe Appleby
No, I'm sure you have.
Matt Dillon
Sure I have. Just listen. Come on everybody. I'm fine. Look, don't. That's right. That's right. Step right up. Step right up. You see, lady, I got the money. You and me could be good friends. Take it easy, Penn. Just cause we got it in a hurry don't mean you gotta spend it in a hurry.
Phoebe Appleby
Oh, did you men like it rich?
Matt Dillon
Yes, ma'. Am. You could say we done that, Pen.
Phoebe Appleby
Why don't we just how did you make your. Your strike?
Matt Dillon
Made it gambling. Mine?
Phoebe Appleby
I didn't quite understand.
Matt Dillon
Never mind, ma'. Am. Nothing to trouble pretty gal's mind with, don't you think? On a little lady?
Phoebe Appleby
On the contrary, I'd like to know about it. I think you can buy me that drink after. Ms. Dylan.
Matt Dillon
You better come quick. Huh? Come where, Justin? The long branch. Miss Kitty sent me. All right, come on. Trouble? Well, there ain't no trouble yet. But it's just what might happen with that Ms. Appleby. Lady. Phoebe? Yeah. Is she down there? She walked in just bold as brass, Ms. Kitty says, and stepped right up to the bar. She don't act like she's got good sense. She's trying to prove she's got too much sense, Chester. That's the trouble. Yeah, Ms. Kitty says a couple half drunk strangers up there at the bar whooping and carrying on something terrible. And she's afraid there might be a Rufus. Yeah.
Phoebe Appleby
Mr. Dillon, tell me what makes a.
Matt Dillon
Lady get such a crazy idea as to go into a place like the Long Brain camp? I don't know, Chester. Let's just hope we can give her the idea to get out.
Phoebe Appleby
Believe me, Mr. Penn, I do want to know all about it. It'll make a first rate story. Now, this mine. Where did you say it was?
Matt Dillon
Why, it was north away.
Phoebe Appleby
You don't seem to agree.
Matt Dillon
Well, that's because he ain't never knowed when to keep his mouth shut. Now you listen here, Rudd. I got as much right to talk as you got. You talk enough and you'll wind us up in jail.
Phoebe Appleby
You mean this might be a case for the law?
Matt Dillon
Now you see there, Pin? Well, it ain't nothing, lady. Nothing at all.
Phoebe Appleby
I have an idea that you didn't get the money from a mine at all.
Matt Dillon
Come on, Pim. Come on where? We're gonna get out of here before you talk anymore.
Phoebe Appleby
I said move a gun.
Matt Dillon
That's right, lady. Now you get out of the way. She ain't gonna get out of the way. She's gonna stay right here in front of me. Now, you ain't gonna shoot a lady, Rudd, are you?
Phoebe Appleby
Let me go.
Matt Dillon
Not right now, lady. Not till he gets gone. I'll shoot the both of you if I have to. All right, drop the gun. Not hardly let the lady go, huh? I didn't hurt her none. Get his gun, Chester. Mister. All right, you get up. Come on. My hand. You near shot my hand off. You're lucky. Take him along, Chester. Lock him up. It was her, Marshall. It was her making pen talk. There'd never been no trouble. You'd never have known I might have. A wanted poster came in this morning. All right, go on, Chester. Get Doc to look at that hand. All right, come on.
Phoebe Appleby
You.
Matt Dillon
All right, Phoebe? Looks like you got a story after all, Phoebe.
Phoebe Appleby
You're gonna have to wait for your answer, Matt. The lady journalist has just f.
Matt Dillon
You.
Phoebe Appleby
Act a little anxious, Marshall. Great. I'll miss the train.
Matt Dillon
I'll be glad to see you safely out of here. We'll say that.
Phoebe Appleby
I hate to ever admit a man is right, but you were about one thing, Marshall.
Matt Dillon
Oh, what's that?
Phoebe Appleby
There are better places for me to pursue my career than a Dodge City saloon.
Matt Dillon
Yeah.
Phoebe Appleby
Well, the marshal's office can stop worrying about me soon as this train pulls out.
Matt Dillon
There'll be other things.
Phoebe Appleby
Yes, I'm sure there will be. And I wouldn't be surprised if once in a while you wish to have me to worry about instead. Isn't that right, Matt?
Matt Dillon
Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. Well, come on, help me get on the train.
Phoebe Appleby
Bye, Ma Bye.
Matt Dillon
Goodbye.
Phoebe Appleby
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Gun smoke Produced and directed in Hollywood by Norman McDonald stars William Conrad as Matt Dillon, US Marshal the story was specially written for Gunsmoke by Marion Clark with editorial supervision by John Neston. Featured in the cast with Gene Bates, Barney Phillips, Harry Bartel and Vic Peron. Marley Bear is Chester, Howard McNear is Doc, and Georgia Ellis is Kitty. This is George Walsh inviting you to join us again next week when CBS Radio presents another story on Gunsmoke.
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Where you are right now is wbt, your CBS station in Charlotte. Presenting next the CBS News at 7:05. Keep tuned for another hard hitting adventure with yours. Trip Dollar tonight. This has been a presentation of OTRWesterns.com and we hope you enjoyed. Please take some time to like and rate this episode within your favorite podcast application. Follow us on Facebook by going to otrwesterns.com Facebook and subscribe to our YouTube channel by going to otrwesterns.Com YouTube become one of our ranch hands and unlock some exclusive content. We want to thank our most recent ranch hands, Steve and Ron W. Who joined us recently. You too can join by going to otrwesterns.com donate send us an email podcasttrwesterns.com and you can call and leave us a voicemail 707-986-8739. This episode is copyrighted under the attribution non Commercial Share alike Copyright. For more information go to otrwesterns.com copyright have a great day and thanks for listening.
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Episode: Newsma’am | Gunsmoke (10-23-60)
Host: Andrew Rhynes
Release Date: August 9, 2025
In this engaging episode of Old Time Radio Westerns, listeners are transported back to the tumultuous days of the Wild West through the classic radio drama Gunsmoke. Hosted by Andrew Rhynes, the podcast presents a digitally restored version of the October 23, 1960 episode titled "Newsma’am." This episode delves into themes of gender roles, justice, and the evolving landscape of the American frontier, showcasing the dynamic interplay between traditional Western values and emerging societal changes.
Introduction and Setting the Stage The episode opens with Matt Dillon's authoritative introduction, emphasizing his role as the first line of defense against outlaws and disorder in Dodge City ([01:40]). The narrative sets a tone of vigilance and solitude, highlighting the challenges faced by those enforcing the law in a rapidly changing territory.
Arrival of Phoebe Appleby Phoebe Appleby arrives in Dodge City with the intent to observe and document a cattle drive. Her presence sparks tension, particularly with trail boss Finn, who disapproves of her involvement. A heated exchange ensues, with Matt Dillon asserting his authority over Phoebe and Finn:
"Out here a cattle drive isn't figured to be a place for a woman. Trail boss is not gonna welcome you." ([08:36] – Matt Dillon)
Phoebe defends her position as a journalist aiming to provide a truthful account of the West, challenging the male-dominated environment.
Conflict and Tension Phoebe's determination leads to her temporary detainment by Matt Dillon, who believes her presence could disrupt the peace:
"I'm gonna lock you up until I can figure out what to do with you." ([09:14] – Matt Dillon)
Kitty Russell becomes involved, advocating for Phoebe's well-being and pushing Matt to be more accommodating:
"You better have another beer, Matt, to calm your nerves." ([09:39] – Phoebe Appleby)
Through these interactions, the episode explores the friction between traditional Western masculinity and the emerging role of women seeking professional independence.
Development of Relationship As the story progresses, Phoebe and Matt engage in deeper conversations about personal aspirations and societal expectations. Phoebe expresses her desire for a career and recognition:
"I do think a woman should have a chance at a career. Don't you, Marshall?" ([17:20] – Phoebe Appleby)
Matt responds with a mix of skepticism and subtle respect, hinting at his growing understanding and perhaps a softening stance:
"I guess that depends on the woman, too." ([17:29] – Matt Dillon)
Their evolving relationship highlights the personal conflicts and gradual shifts in perspectives amid the rough backdrop of Dodge City.
Climactic Confrontation The tension culminates in a dramatic confrontation at the local saloon, where Phoebe challenges the rough behavior of the patrons and seeks to maintain her journalistic integrity:
"The American people have a right to know what goes on in these western places." ([22:18] – Phoebe Appleby)
Matt intervenes to protect her, leading to a standoff with unruly individuals. This scene underscores the constant struggle between maintaining order and the disruptive influence of societal change.
Resolution and Departure Ultimately, Phoebe decides that Dodge City is not the place for her pursuits, leading to an amicable parting with Matt:
"There are better places for me to pursue my career than a Dodge City saloon." ([28:56] – Phoebe Appleby)
Matt acknowledges the complexities of their interactions, hinting at future challenges:
"There'll be other things." ([29:08] – Matt Dillon)
Phoebe's departure signifies a reluctant acceptance of the limitations imposed by the Wild West while leaving the door open for future developments.
Matt Dillon on Duty:
"Pretty sure there’s just one way to handle the killers and the spoilers, and that's with a U.S. marshal and the smell of gun smoke." ([01:40])
Phoebe Appleby on Journalism:
"A journalist has to become accustomed to not being welcome." ([08:45])
Matt Dillon Reflecting on Phoebe:
"As a matter of fact, you may be right about that." ([19:16])
Phoebe on Her Career:
"There are better places for me to pursue my career than a Dodge City saloon." ([28:56])
Final Interaction:
"I hate to ever admit a man is right, but you were about one thing, Marshall." ([28:44])
This episode poignantly captures the friction between traditional Western norms and the nascent push for gender equality. Phoebe Apple's character represents the modern woman challenging patriarchal structures, while Matt Dillon embodies the steadfastness of law and order. Their interactions symbolize the broader societal shifts occurring during the era, reflecting the tensions between progress and tradition.
Additionally, the episode underscores the importance of storytelling and journalism in shaping perceptions of the West. Phoebe's quest for a "true picture" serves as a meta-commentary on the role of media in documenting and influencing societal narratives.
"Newsma’am | Gunsmoke (10-23-60)" offers a compelling blend of classic Western action and progressive character development. Through its richly restored audio and nuanced performances, the episode invites listeners to explore the complexities of life in the Wild West, the evolving roles of its inhabitants, and the enduring quest for justice and truth.
For those new to the Old Time Radio Westerns podcast, this episode exemplifies the series' dedication to preserving and enhancing timeless tales, making them accessible and immersive for contemporary audiences.