Renegade White | Gunsmoke (08-02-52)

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Old Time Radio Westerns – Gunsmoke: “Renegade White” (08-02-52)

Host: Andrew Rhynes
Date Released: March 12, 2026
Original Air Date (Drama): August 2, 1952
Episode Runtime: ~36 mins (content start at 03:37)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, the Old Time Radio Westerns podcast presents a digitally restored version of the classic Gunsmoke drama “Renegade White.” Set in the lawless Wild West, Marshal Matt Dillon investigates suspicious gun sales and a string of murders, leading to a tense confrontation with outlaws and renegade Cheyennes. Themes of betrayal, cultural conflict, justice, and morality unfold through sharp dialogue and gripping situations, capturing the spirit of the iconic radio Western.

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Major Discussion Points & Plot Breakdown

1. Suspicious Dealings on the Frontier

Key Characters Introduced: Ord Spicer (drifter and gunrunner), Wild Hog (Cheyenne leader), Marshal Matt Dillon (protagonist)

• [03:37] – The classic Gunsmoke intro sets the scene: “Around Dodge City and in the territory on west, there’s just one way to handle the killers and the spoilers, and that’s with a U.S. marshal and the smell of Gunsmoke.”
• [05:02] – Ord Spicer meets with Wild Hog. An uneasy alliance is apparent, as Spicer supplies Wild Hog and his Cheyennes with rifles for cash. Their exchange is tense, laced with mutual suspicion and veiled threats.
• [07:01] Memorable exchange:
  • Spicer: “Now, Wild Hog, you and me are friends. Don’t get so touchy. I didn’t mean that.”
  • Wild Hog: “We are not friends. I pay you.”
    This highlights the transactional—and fragile—nature of their relationship.

2. Trouble Brews in Dodge

• [09:20] – Spicer flashes newfound wealth in Dodge, arousing local suspicion. He boasts: “Brains and guts, friend. Brains and guts. That’s all it takes.”
• [11:21] – Chester reports to Marshal Dillon about Spicer being locked up for murder; Spicer’s dangerous reputation grows.
• [12:12] – Spicer is released, but Dillon warns: “Don’t use it [your gun] around here anymore.”
• [12:44] – Chester and Dillon exchange this worry about Spicer’s character:
  • Chester: "There’s something real bad about him."
  • Dillon: "Yeah, I don’t know what it is, and I hope I don’t have to find out."

3. The Gunrunner’s Trail

• [13:18] – Local storekeeper Jack reveals six Sharps .44 rifles were bought by Spicer.
• [14:37] – This correlates to the murder of two T Bar cowboys ([15:38]):
  • “Both shot dead.”
  • Doc brings evidence: “Here, take a look. I dug some of these out of each of them. Those are slugs from a Sharps rifle, Marshal.” ([16:55])
• [17:01] – Link established between Spicer’s arms deal and the killings.

4. Marshal Dillon’s Pursuit and Capture

• [18:24] – Dillon tracks the Cheyenne party but is ambushed and knocked unconscious when his horse is injured.
• [19:14] – Spicer seeks to kill Dillon, but Wild Hog refuses:
  • Wild Hog: “This is a man of much heart. I admire his courage to stand with death on all sides and arrest a man. No, we will not kill him. Not yet.” ([20:48])

5. A Claustrophobic March and Moral Quandaries

• [21:14] – Dillon is outnumbered and guarded as they ride towards Cheyenne territory. Spicer, now boastful, confesses his role helping the Cheyennes and betraying his fellow whites:
  • “I got a deal with Wild Hog, Marshal. Real good deal… Pays better, though. I got $500 coming, soon as we find a ranch or two to raid.” ([22:47])
• [23:05] Dillon’s judgment: “You know, I think a lot more of these Indians than I do of you, Spicer.”
• [24:23] – Wild Hog converses philosophically with Dillon:
  • Wild Hog: “We are Northern Cheyenne, Marshal, from the Bighorn Mountains. The Army took us south… Why should we live in a hot, flat land that has no game?”
  • Dillon: “But the Army will be after you again. You’ve broken the law.”
  • Wild Hog: “Whose law? Ours or yours?” ([24:53])

6. Clash of Laws and Loyalties

• [25:03–25:39] – Profound discussion on violence, law, and betrayal:
  • Wild Hog: “Cheyenne does not speak of it as murder to kill his enemy.”
  • Dillon: “Those cowboys weren’t your enemy… You tricked them.”
  • Wild Hog: “Is it only the white man who is allowed to trick his enemy?... I have seen too much trickery and lies and destruction and broken promises.”
• [26:24] Dillon asks Wild Hog if Spicer’s violence is murder.
  • Wild Hog: “The Indian is Spicer’s enemy, not his own people. Therefore, it is murder.”

7. Betrayal Among Betrayers

• [27:15] – Wild Hog reveals he plans to kill Spicer, who is now expendable:
  • “I do not trust Spicer. He is a traitor to his own people and only for money… I do not need Spicer. … Why not? He is only another white man.”
• [28:05–28:25] – Wild Hog reflects on history and fate:
  • “Tribe follows tribe, nation follows nation. … A white man’s turn to be defeated and to disappear will come. It is just a matter of time. And so we may be brothers after all.”

8. The Night the Cheyennes Disappear

• [29:22] – The Cheyennes vanish from camp, leaving Spicer knocked out and Dillon alone.
• [31:00] – Spicer, abandoned and frightened, insists: “But they couldn’t leave me. Not here, not now.”
• [31:23] – Dillon delivers the final verdict:
  • “You got no friends. You don’t belong in anybody’s camp. And I’m taking you back to Dodge anyway. That murdering redskin’s a better man than you, Spicer. He’s brave and he’s willing to die.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Transactional Relationship:

  • Wild Hog: “We are not friends. I pay you.” ([07:30])

• Reluctant Respect:

  • Wild Hog: “This is a man of much heart. I admire his courage to stand with death on all sides and arrest a man.” ([20:48])

• Morality & Betrayal:

  • Dillon: “I think a lot more of these Indians than I do of you, Spicer.” ([23:05])

• On Fate and History:

  • Wild Hog: “Tribe follows tribe, nation follows nation. … A white man’s turn to be defeated and to disappear will come. ... We may be brothers after all.” ([28:05–28:25])

• Dillon’s Final Judgment:

  • “You got no friends. You don’t belong in anybody’s camp... That murdering redskin’s a better man than you, Spicer. He’s brave and he’s willing to die.” ([31:23])

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Key Timestamps

• [03:37] Gunsmoke episode narrative begins
• [05:02] Spicer and Wild Hog’s uneasy partnership revealed
• [09:20] Spicer shows off his money in Dodge
• [12:44] Chester and Dillon discuss their wariness about Spicer
• [13:18] Discovery Spicer bought six rifles
• [16:55] Doc finds .44 Sharps slugs in murdered cowboys
• [18:24] Dillon tracks the Cheyennes, is captured
• [20:48] Wild Hog refuses to kill Dillon—respects his courage
• [24:23] Wild Hog’s rationale for fleeing the reservation
• [25:39] Discussion on violence, law, betrayal
• [27:30] Wild Hog’s contemplation on killing Spicer
• [28:05–28:25] Historical perspective on tribal fate
• [31:23] Dillon’s final condemnation of Spicer

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Tone & Style

The episode’s original tone is gritty, terse, and somber, balanced by moments of philosophical reflection on justice and fate. Dramatic dialogue between Dillon, Spicer, and Wild Hog immerses listeners in the ethical and cultural complexities of the frontier.

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Conclusion

“Renegade White” is a moody, morally complex Western that explores betrayal, shifting alliances, and the gray spaces of frontier justice. Marshal Dillon emerges as a lonely pillar of law and pragmatism, while even the outlaws and rebels earn a measure of respect for their code—something the traitorous Spicer decisively lacks.

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Transcript

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[Andrew Rines (Podcast Host)]

Welcome to the Old Time Radio Westerns. I'm your host Andrew Rines and let's get into this episode. This episode is going to be Gunsmoke Original Air Dates Aug. 2, 1952 and and the title is Renegade White. Hope you enjoy and again, thanks for listening.

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[Ord Spicer]

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[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Around Dark City and in the territory on west, there's just one way to handle the killers and the spoilers, and that's with the U.S. marshal and the smell of gun smoke.

[Wild Hog]

Gun Smoke Starring William Conrad.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

The story of the violence that moved west with young America. The story of a man who moved with it. Matt Dillon, United States Marsh.

[Wild Hog]

Oh, boy.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Oh,

[Ord Spicer]

Wild Hog. Wild Hog at you. Wild Hog is there. Who are you? Put that spear down. Listen. Wild Hog and me are friends. Big friends.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

You'll make much noise.

[Ord Spicer]

You're a Cheyenne, ain't you? Must be with Wild Hog. What name you, white man? I'm Ord Spicer. Ord Spicer, you hear? You bother me and you'll be in big trouble. With Wild Hogs?

[Wild Hog]

Not trouble.

[Ord Spicer]

Tell these other redskins to put their spears down. I need more room. Come, white man. Are you with Wild Hog or ain't you?

[Wild Hog]

Much talk.

[Ord Spicer]

Come.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

All right.

[Ord Spicer]

Any tricks, I'll shoot you first. No one around here. Where is he?

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Horse Here. You walked?

[Ord Spicer]

Why can't he ride out like anybody else? I want to be in Dodge tonight.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Come on it.

[Ord Spicer]

Wild Hog. It's me. It's Orange. Spicer all right?

[Wild Hog]

Yes.

[Ord Spicer]

These braves of yours sure keep you covered. You can't tell one from another. Except you, of course. Hayden thought maybe I'd run into the wrong Indians.

[Wild Hog]

No moon tonight.

[Ord Spicer]

Oh, I recognized him as Cheyenne's all right. But you never know with. With.

[Wild Hog]

With what, Spicer?

[Ord Spicer]

Nothing. Wild Hog. Forget it.

[Wild Hog]

You never know with Indians.

[Ord Spicer]

Now, Wild Hog, you and me are friends. Don't get so touchy. I didn't mean that.

[Wild Hog]

We are not friends. I Pay you?

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

That is all.

[Ord Spicer]

Sure, we're friends. You're about the most educated Indian I ever met.

[Wild Hog]

That's why I learn only English from the white men, Nothing else.

[Ord Spicer]

You sure had a good teacher, fella.

[Wild Hog]

General Custer. Many bitter moons ago. I was a scout. Don't matter.

[Ord Spicer]

I never heard of him.

[Wild Hog]

He was killed.

[Ord Spicer]

Well, that's nothing to do with me. You got the money, Wild hog?

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Yes.

[Ord Spicer]

Here.

[Wild Hog]

$500.

[Ord Spicer]

500? Our deal was for a thousand.

[Wild Hog]

You will get the rest later.

[Ord Spicer]

But I'm running a big risk for you Cheyennes. This is mighty dangerous work, Wild Hog.

[Wild Hog]

It will be even more dangerous if we do not meet again, Spicer.

[Ord Spicer]

Oh, Wild Hog, you can trust me. I'll be back. You know that?

[Wild Hog]

Yes. When?

[Ord Spicer]

Oh, two, three days. Where'll I find you?

[Wild Hog]

Make camp near here. We'll find you.

[Ord Spicer]

Okay. I'll get on into Dodge now.

[Wild Hog]

Goodbye, Wild Hog. Don't get drunk, Spicer.

[Ord Spicer]

Never touch it. Hey, bartender, set out another bottle of whiskey for me and my friend, would you? Say, you're cold, stranger or Spicer, friend? Here, let me fill your glass

[Wild Hog]

some time.

[Ord Spicer]

You got here, Dodge. You're sure easy with your money, Spicer. Nothing's too good for my friend. Say, what name you go by, anyway? You got a lot of money, Spicer? Sure, I got money. I'll have more soon. You must have hit it rich, huh? Sure, I hit it rich. Easy money, friend. Easy money. How'd you do it, Spicer, anyway? Friend, I live like a gambler. My life's chicken one day and feathers the next. Right now, it's all chicken. Yeah, but how'd you do it? You made out real good, Spicer. Brains and guts, friend. Brains and guts.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

That's all it takes.

[Ord Spicer]

I know, I know, but.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

But how? You don't get money like that, robbing old Indians.

[Ord Spicer]

What's that, huh? What'd you say about Indians?

[Inner Sanctum Announcer]

It's just a way of saying it back home.

[Ord Spicer]

Don't get on the pride about it. Maybe you talk too much. Maybe you ask too many questions. Hey, what's the matter with you, anyway? Maybe you know too much. Look, Spicer, you're hiding something.

[Inner Sanctum Announcer]

Don't trouble yourself.

[Ord Spicer]

I ain't interested in you or your money or your liquor. I don't like that. You don't have to. You bet I don't. Keep your eyes right on mine, Spicer. I want to watch you die.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Spicy.

[Ord Spicer]

Morning, Mr. Dylan.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

How's our prisoner, Chester?

[Ord Spicer]

I got two, Mr. Dillon.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

You got two.

[Ord Spicer]

Yes, sir.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

There's that Ord Spicer fellow you locked up.

[Ord Spicer]

And then there's a drunk who tried to buffalo me after you went to bed.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Oh, did you have any trouble with him?

[Ord Spicer]

A little, Mr. Dillon. He tried to hit me on the head with his six gun.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Well, you look all right.

[Ord Spicer]

Oh, he didn't do it, sir. I bit his thumb and kneed him at the same time.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Well, that's quite a trick, Chester. You must have been practicing.

[Ord Spicer]

No, sir, I haven't been practicing. But I had it all thought out.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

I see. All right, let's turn Spicer loose.

[Ord Spicer]

I'll go get him, Mr. Dillon. About time. Where's my gun, Marshall?

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

There it is, Vicer. And don't use it around here anymore.

[Ord Spicer]

You can't bother a man for self defense.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

I just want you to stay out of dodge one kill it to your limit here. Even in self defense.

[Ord Spicer]

I ain't a fear to you, Marshall. Besides, is a poor town anyways, you can have it. My, that man would kick a hog barefooted.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

He sure would, Chester.

[Ord Spicer]

There's something real bad about him.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Yeah, I don't know what it is, Chester, and I hope I don't have to find out.

[Ord Spicer]

Well, you'll go away. Fellows like that gotta keep moving. Seems like nobody wants him.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Now don't feel sorry for him, Chester. He got that way all by himself.

[Ord Spicer]

Yes, sir. I mean, no sir. Morning, Marshall.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Those Greeners get here yet, Jack?

[Ord Spicer]

Yep.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Come in on the Santa Fe yesterday, Marshall. Four of them right back here. Oh, good.

[Ord Spicer]

Beautiful guns, ain't they?

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Just beautiful. You're a good storekeeper, Jack. But I only need two of them. Well, I can make you a good

[Ord Spicer]

price on all four, Marshall.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

It wouldn't be any good if I don't need four with it.

[Ord Spicer]

Well, maybe not, but I never know.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

I got half a dozen.44 Sharps rifles.

[Inner Sanctum Announcer]

Same shipment.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Thought I'd be stuck with him forever.

[Ord Spicer]

Well, with the big 50 out now,

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

there ain't a Buffalo 100 use a.44 anymore. I don't see any.44s. Well, that's just what I'm telling you, feller. Stopped in just this morning.

[Wild Hog]

Took all six.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Paid me $75 a piece too. You sold six rifles to one man?

[Ord Spicer]

That's right, Marshall.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Was he a buffalo hunter?

[Ord Spicer]

Looked more like a drifter to me. Had plenty of cash though.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

You know his name?

[Ord Spicer]

No idea. Nothing wrong with it, was there, Marshall? Ben hold up around here.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Haven't heard about no. No, just a lot of rifles for one man to buy.

[Ord Spicer]

No log in it, is there?

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

What'd this man look like Jack.

[Ord Spicer]

Tall, skinny, kind of mean face. Mm.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Did he wear a 16 gun with black grips?

[Ord Spicer]

Yeah, come to think of it, he did.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

You know him?

[Ord Spicer]

Yeah.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Lord Spicer. He killed a man last night.

[Ord Spicer]

Well, now, I heard about that shooting.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

What do you suppose he's up to now? Where'd he go?

[Ord Spicer]

I wouldn't know. It packed the rifles on him, you

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

and rode out of town.

[Ord Spicer]

You going after your marshal? No.

[Wild Hog]

No.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

It's like you say, Jack. There's no law against a man buying all the rifles he wants. Seems strained. That so? Well, let's settle on the price for those Greeners. Next day, Chester and I took the new Greeners and rode out for prairie chicken. We had a sack full within an hour and we headed back to town, arguing on the way as to whether we'd bake the birds whole or just cut the breasts off and broil them. We still hadn't settled the matter when we reached Dodge, and we never did. The stage from Hays City had arrived half hour before bringing with it the bodies of two men found alongside the road. They were just laying there, Marshall, about five miles back.

[Ord Spicer]

Both shot dead.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

But I thought I'd better bring them in anyway. Do you recognize them, Pete?

[Wild Hog]

No, Marshall, I didn't.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

The doc says there are a couple

[Wild Hog]

of riders from the T Bar outfit.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

He got them up in his office. Now they bring in their horses. No sign of a horse, but was

[Wild Hog]

an awful lot of tracks around.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

All right, I'll go see if Doc's found anything. Hang around, Pete, will you? I may want some more information from you.

[Wild Hog]

Okay if I do my waiting at the Alanza, Marshall?

[Ord Spicer]

Yeah, sure, sure.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

I'll put our horses up, Mr. Dillon. Yours, Chester. I may want mine. Yes, sir. Oh, hello, Marshall.

[Ord Spicer]

Just finishing up here. Be right with you.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

How'd they die, Doc?

[Ord Spicer]

Well, they got half shot and then shot dead, Marshall.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Yeah, I know, I know. But is there any way of telling if maybe they killed each other?

[Ord Spicer]

No, There is, Marshall, but I'd be mighty surprised if they did.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

What do you mean, Doc?

[Ord Spicer]

Well, they were cowboys, Marshall. Cowboys just don't generally carry buffalo guns. Here, take a look. I dug some of these out of each of them.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Those are slugs from a Sharps rifle, Marshall.

[Ord Spicer]

Yeah, sure are.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

That one is the best I found right there. What caliber did you say this is, Doc? I'd guess 44.44 Sharps.

[Ord Spicer]

Not many.44s in use around here since the big.50 camera.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

I know a man with six of them, Doc.

[Ord Spicer]

What do you think of that?

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

I'll let you know when I get back.

[Ord Spicer]

So long, document.

[Inner Sanctum Announcer]

We will return for the second act of Gun Smoke in just a moment. But first, behind the famous creaking door to Inner Sanctum tomorrow evening there lies one of the most hair raising tales to date. Meet Raymond, your host on Inner Sanctum tomorrow night on most of these same CBS radio stations. Now, the second act of Gun Smoke.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

The stage driver rode with me back to where he found the bodies. And from there I rode on alone. It was an easy trail at first. There must have been more than a dozen horses running together long toward dusk. However, they suddenly split up. And I was faced with two different trails to follow. Made a gambler's choice and rode harder than ever. There was only an hour of light left to track by. When my horse stepped into a prairie dog hole, snapped his leg and went over hard. My head glanced off a rock. There was a shower light. Nothing. That's him all right. That's Dylan.

[Ord Spicer]

He's a Marshall at Dodge I told you about.

[Wild Hog]

I think he is not dead.

[Ord Spicer]

Stop.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Put away your gun.

[Ord Spicer]

But you can't let him live. He'd kill us all right. I'm gonna kill him anyway.

[Wild Hog]

You die for it if you do.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Okay, you're the boss.

[Ord Spicer]

That you'll wish I'd shot him.

[Wild Hog]

He is coming to. Now we take care of him our own way. White clown pick up his guns?

[Ord Spicer]

Yeah, he isn't hurt. Just knocked out, that's all.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Indians? Cheyennes.

[Ord Spicer]

I'm no Indian, Marshal Spicer.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Yeah, sure.

[Ord Spicer]

No tricks now, Marshal. These redskins will shoot you to pieces.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Yeah, those new sharps. 44s, you bought them, huh, Spicer?

[Ord Spicer]

It's no business of yours, Marshall. Not now. You're through. You're all the way through, Spicer.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

You're under arrest.

[Ord Spicer]

What?

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

I said you're under arrest.

[Ord Spicer]

Now, Marshall, what are you arresting me for? Not that it matters much.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

For selling guns to Indians and on suspicion of murder.

[Ord Spicer]

All right, so I'm under arrest. But Marshall, I want to ask you something. Yeah? How are you gonna take me in? That's all. Just how are you gonna manage it?

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

I'll worry about that.

[Ord Spicer]

You sure will. Come on, Wild Hog, let's shoot him and get it over with.

[Wild Hog]

This is a man of much heart. I admire his courage to stand with death on all sides and arrest a man. No, we will not kill him. Not yet.

[Ord Spicer]

But you can't take him with us.

[Wild Hog]

Cloud, give him a horse.

[Ord Spicer]

Come.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

They gave me a horse all right, with the T bar brand on it. But I Was surrounded by six armed Indians and a no good white who would shoot me anytime he thought he could get by with it. Wild Hog rode up ahead, leading the party northwest, apparently to rendezvous with a bunch that had split off from this one. Spicer stayed right alongside of me.

[Ord Spicer]

Well, am I still under arrest, Marshall?

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

You're still guilty, aren't you?

[Ord Spicer]

Sure, I'll admit it. Don't matter being as how you'll never see Dodge again or any other place.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

What are you doing with these Cheyennes here anyway, Spicer?

[Ord Spicer]

I got a deal with Wild Hog, Marshall. Real good deal.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Killing white men? Part of it.

[Ord Spicer]

You don't need any help there, Marshall. They like to kill white men.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Maybe they'll kill you before they're through.

[Ord Spicer]

Nah, I'm too valuable to them. They like me.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Well, now, why would they like you?

[Ord Spicer]

Well, they didn't at first, but I talked him into it. Talked Wild Hog into it? He's a smart fella. That Indian saw right away what I could do for him. Like buying those rifles.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

What else did you do for him?

[Ord Spicer]

Well, I stopped those two riders with the horses, Told them I was sick. Got them off guard. Those Cheyennes were on before they could move. It was real easy.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

You're kind of like a Judas sheep in a slaughter pen, huh?

[Ord Spicer]

Yeah, that's it, Marshall. Pays better, though. I got $500 coming, soon as we find a ranch or two to raid.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

I see.

[Ord Spicer]

Pretty good deal, huh?

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

You know, I think a lot more of these Indians than I do of you, Spicer.

[Ord Spicer]

I don't like that, Marshall.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

At least they got an argument on their side. But you're just a renegade white.

[Ord Spicer]

I'll kill you for that, Marshall.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Oh, shut up.

[Ord Spicer]

All right, you bask for it.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Shoot me and Wild Hog will split you wide open, Spicer. Besides, he spotted the rest of his party up there, huh?

[Ord Spicer]

Oh, yeah. All right for now, Marshall.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

But I'll see you dead. I promise I'll see you dead. I was still alive two days later when we crossed the Smoky Hill river about a hundred miles northwest of dodge. There were 15 Cheyennes in the party day and night. Two of them by turns. Never took their eyes off of me. They seemed anxious for an excuse to cut my throat. I had to watch every movement I made. Looked pretty hopeless. Wild Hog was smart and he took no chances. But often he and I rode along together, though always flanked by my two warrior guards.

[Wild Hog]

Country is greener already. Better every mile.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Why have you been raiding so far south, Wild Hog? If you like this land better, we

[Wild Hog]

are northern Cheyenne Marshal from the Bighorn Mountains. The army took us south to a reservation in the Oklahoma Territory.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Ah, so that's it. You jumped your reservation, huh?

[Wild Hog]

Why should we live in a hot, flat land that has no game?

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

But the army will be after you again. You've broken the law.

[Ord Spicer]

Whose law?

[Wild Hog]

Ours or yours?

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

All right, Wild Hog. But the Indian has a law against the murder. You've broken that twice. That I know of.

[Wild Hog]

Cheyenne does not speak of it as murder to kill his enemy.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Those cowboys weren't your enemy, Wild Hog. They weren't fighting you.

[Wild Hog]

The army drove us from our home in the mountains. The army took our horses from us. We are going back home now on other horses. That's all.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

That doesn't explain your killing. Those men were peaceful.

[Wild Hog]

Marshal, If I could, I would kill every white man in the country. They cannot. The Indian nations cannot. Red man has always fled before the white man.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Those cowboys weren't chasing you.

[Wild Hog]

We needed their horses.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

They didn't even have a chance to fight. You tricked them.

[Wild Hog]

Is it only the white man who was allowed to trick his enemy? I was young once, Marshal. But I have seen too much trickery and lies and destruction and broken promises.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

I'll admit that's happened, Wildhawk. But you know, not every man is a liar and a killer.

[Ord Spicer]

No.

[Wild Hog]

There are white men like you, and there are white men like Spicer.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Spicer? Tell me something. Would you consider Ord Spicer guilty of murder?

[Wild Hog]

The Indian is Spicer's enemy, not his own people. Therefore, it is murder.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Then you understand why it's Spicer I came after, not you.

[Wild Hog]

Why not me, Marshall?

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

You're the army's problem, not mine.

[Wild Hog]

I expect to fight the army many times before we reach the mountains.

[Inner Sanctum Announcer]

Yeah.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

What? What are your plans for me, Wild Hog?

[Wild Hog]

I have been thinking. Yeah? I do not know yet.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

What about Spicer?

[Wild Hog]

Spicer works for me. Why should I think about him?

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Then you're not as smart as I figured.

[Wild Hog]

All right, Marshal. I do not trust Spicer. He is a traitor to his own people and only for money. I have rifles now and enough horses. I do not need Spicer.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

You're going to kill him?

[Wild Hog]

Why not? He is only another white man.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

You said yourself you can't kill all the white men.

[Wild Hog]

If you were free, Marshal, you would take him back and let other white men kill him. What difference?

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

How he dies makes a difference to me. Wildhawk, I'm a lawman.

[Wild Hog]

I may have to kill you, too.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

You're a hard man to be friends with.

[Wild Hog]

I will explain to you Marshal,

[Ord Spicer]

it

[Wild Hog]

matters little about any Indian. Few more winters and not many of my people will be alive. I do not complain of our fate. Tribe follows tribe, nation follows nation.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

It is the law of nature, a

[Wild Hog]

white man's turn to be defeated and to disappear will come. It is just a matter of time. And so we may be brothers after all.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Marshall, I'm not sure I believe all of that, Wild hug.

[Wild Hog]

Of course not. Still, I recognize you as a warrior among your people. As I am a warrior among mine.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Too bad we're not on the same side.

[Wild Hog]

As long as we are brave and willing to die, does not matter. I ride ahead now. You stay with the others.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

That night, we reached the north fork of the Solomon river, encamped with the shadow of low hills, not mentioned miles ahead. Wild Hog ordered my guards to keep me some distance from the rest of the party. So I pulled up some buffalo grass and bedded down on it early. I watched the stars until sleep came. Next thing I heard was the sound of horses fading off in the distance. The two braves guarding me had disappeared, so I got up and walked carefully back to where the Cheyennes were camped. There, a couple of horses stood tied to a bush, but they were alone. The Indians had left. I stopped for a moment to listen, and then suddenly I saw the figure of a man lying in the moonlight about 20ft. Spicer. Spicer. Now, there's no blood on you. You're all right. Come on a bit, man.

[Inner Sanctum Announcer]

Come on

[Ord Spicer]

here.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

You've been knocked out, that's all. Come on, sit up.

[Ord Spicer]

Oh, Marshall, what happened? Where are they? Where's Wild Hog?

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

They've gone.

[Ord Spicer]

Gone? Gone where? Where'd they go?

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

They've been headed for the Bighorn Mountains. Less chance of running into the army if they travel at night.

[Ord Spicer]

But they couldn't leave me. Not here, not now.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Looks like they did some brave club gin. They rode off, that's all.

[Ord Spicer]

But I gotta go with them.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

You're still groggy, Spicer. You're still under arrest, remember?

[Ord Spicer]

You can't take me in, Marshall. Wild Hog will be back. He won't let you.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

Why do you think he left you here, Spicer?

[Ord Spicer]

We're. We're friends. Big friends, me and Wild Hog.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

You got no friends. You don't belong in anybody's camp. And I'm taking you back to Dodge anyway. That murdering redski's a better man than you, Spicer. He's brave and he's willing to die.

[Wild Hog]

Now, come on.

[Narrator (Gunsmoke)]

We got a long ride back.

[Inner Sanctum Announcer]

Gun smoke under the direction of Norman McDonald stars William Conrad as Matt Dillon, U.S. marshal. Tonight's story was specially written for Gunsmoke by John Meston, with music composed and conducted by Rex Corey. Featured in tonight's cast were Harry Bartel, Larry Dobkin, Herb Vigren and Jack Crucian. Harley Baer is chester and Howard McNear is dark. Join us again next week as Matt Dillon, U.S. marshal, fights to bring law and order out of the wild violence of the west in gun smoke. Remember, every Saturday night on CBS Radio, Tarzan brings you startling new adventures. Listen for Gold of the Sudan later this evening. Nancy Cassell speaking. And remember, Robert Q's Waxworks brings you the top records and recording artists on the CBS Radio Network.

[Ord Spicer]

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[Ord Spicer]

Foreign.

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