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Narrator
Around Dodge City and in the territory on west, there's just one way to handle the killers and the spoilers, and that's with a U.S. marshal. And the smell of gun smoke.
Matt Dillon
Gun Smoke.
Narrator
Starring William Conrad. The story of the violence that moved west with young America and the story of a man who moved with it.
Matt Dillon
I'm that man, Matt Dillon, United States Marshal, the first man they look for and the last they want to meet. It's a chancy job, and it makes a man watchful and a little lonely.
Chester Proudfoot
I sure would like to turn off here and go down to that stream and catch me a mess of fish.
Matt Dillon
Mr. Dylan, even the fish have enough sense to lie low under a noon sun like this.
Chester Proudfoot
Chester and I just soon be lying low with them along the bank there under a tree.
Matt Dillon
Yeah, sure. There you'd be stretched out under a tree. Yeah, Then the ants had come, and the chiggers, and maybe a rattlesnake or two.
Chester Proudfoot
Just a minute here.
Matt Dillon
Just as soon as you got rid of them, they'd probably blow up a storm. I think you're better off riding right back into town with me.
Chester Proudfoot
No, maybe you're right at that. I don't guess I really feel like eating fish today anyway. Say, look yonder there. Ain't that somebody walking up ahead of us?
Matt Dillon
That looks like it.
Chester Proudfoot
Well, why on earth would a body be walking on a day like this?
Matt Dillon
Probably has no choice.
Chester Proudfoot
Well, everybody around here rides a whole earth.
Matt Dillon
Mr. Jones looks like he has been riding one.
Chester Proudfoot
How's that?
Matt Dillon
Oh, he's carrying a saddle, Chester.
Chester Proudfoot
Well, my man, I can see that, but what do you suppose he's doing?
Matt Dillon
We'll be up with him in a minute. Why don't you ask him?
Chester Proudfoot
Oh, well, I wouldn't want to come
Doc
right out and ask him.
Sedgeley Carstairs
Greetings, gentlemen.
Narrator
Hello.
Chester Proudfoot
Hello.
Sedgeley Carstairs
Carstairs.
Matt Dillon
Centrally Carstairs, Matt Dillon, this Chester Proudfoot.
Chester Proudfoot
Pleased to meet you.
Sedgeley Carstairs
Is that a star you're wearing?
Matt Dillon
Yeah. U.S. marshal out of that city.
Sedgeley Carstairs
Well, Marshal, I feel a bit awkward to ride my horse. Rather warm for walking.
Chester Proudfoot
Yeah, we were just wondering about that.
Sedgeley Carstairs
Lost him, you know.
Chester Proudfoot
Lost him in this open country.
Matt Dillon
Chester, let the man talk.
Chester Proudfoot
Well, yes, you're better.
Sedgeley Carstairs
Yeah, I lost him in a card game. Poker. Not very good at poker.
Matt Dillon
You bet your horse?
Sedgeley Carstairs
All I had at the moment. Temporarily embarrassed, you might say, Mr. Young.
Chester Proudfoot
What's he talking about?
Matt Dillon
He means he's out of money.
Sedgeley Carstairs
I'm afraid that's correct.
Matt Dillon
But you didn't lose your saddle, huh?
Sedgeley Carstairs
Well, I didn't wager my saddle, sir. No. That's the only one I found to give me any comfort in your American style of riding. I feel I must keep it.
Matt Dillon
That's a good idea, in case you got another horse.
Sedgeley Carstairs
Oh, I mean to win him back. That's one reason I'm heading for Dodge City.
Matt Dillon
Who'd you lose your horse too?
Sedgeley Carstairs
Chap named Pete Knudsen. We came up together driving cattle from Texas. Well, he gradually won everything I had. And last night he won my horse. So now I'm afoot.
Chester Proudfoot
Beat Newton's a mean man in a poker game. He's a mean man out of one, too.
Sedgeley Carstairs
If he weren't so mean, I might not be so determined to win back my horse, Marshall.
Matt Dillon
I see. Well, at least we can give you a lift into town. You climb up behind me, you take his saddle. Chess. There you go.
Sedgeley Carstairs
That's very sporting of you. Perhaps I can repay you sometime.
Matt Dillon
Just don't try too hard to repay Beat Nudson.
Sedgeley Carstairs
It's somewhat an affair of honor, you
Matt Dillon
know, you'd be better off just to think of it as a poker game and leave honor out of it.
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Now just listen a minute if you will. I've got a little story to tell you. Well, it's not so little. It's sort of a tall tale. I don't know if you've heard of Joe Masherak or not, if you've never worked in steel, and you probably haven't, but he was a legendary giant whose body was made of pure steel. It was Joe who invented riveting. Joe would stand there shaping rivets out of the hot steel with his thumb and fingers. And while the rivets were taking shape, he'd punch holes in the girders or plates with his little fingers. Then he'd plug the rivets into the holes and pound them over with his knuckles. Worked so good that they invented riveting machines to take his place on jobs he couldn't get to. Joe was a busy man, you bet, but. But in between jobs he couldn't just stand around doing nothing. So he'd stockpile cannonballs, making them out of white hot steel the way little children make snowballs by rolling them in their hands for entertainment. Joe used to have what he'd call a taffy pull, only he'd use steel instead of candy, and as he stretched it out, his fingers would be shaping it. When he finished each long tug, he'd break it off and lay down another length of rail to cool. Guess half the rails of the B and O were made by Joe at his taffy pulls. Yes, Joe Mazurac was the spirit of the steel industry. The spirit of those men who worked and sweat before the open hearts of the Alleghenies who laughed and bragged about the strength of their giant while they turned out the finest steel in the world. Some of that steel was Joe Mazerak himself, to hear them tell it. It seems that during the year of the big layoff when the steel mills couldn't get metal to process, why, Joe, he melted himself down in the flames of heart number seven so as America could maintain its steel supply. Yes, old Joe was quite a legend, wasn't he? Say, isn't it nice being citizens of a country where you can laugh and talk about things free as a breeze and write and read and worship to. Yes, sir. Maybe you don't think about it much, but you should.
Doc
Well, you want something more Chester, like maybe another piece of pie?
Chester Proudfoot
Oh, thanks, Doc. Here's one more coffee.
Doc
I'll buy.
Chester Proudfoot
No, no, I've had plenty. Had plenty of that Carstairs fellow too. Come think of.
Doc
Is that so? What's the matter with him?
Chester Proudfoot
Well, now, Doc, what kind of a man would have a name like Sedgley Carstairs anyway? I don't trust him at all.
Doc
Oh, now, a man can't help his name, Chester. Chances are in England, a name like Sedgeley Carstairs is every bit as common as Chester Proudfoot is over here. No.
Pete Knudsen
Proudfoot.
Chester Proudfoot
Maybe so, but I tell you, Doc, he talks so fancy as just plain silly.
Doc
Oh, he's not trying to talk fancy, Chester. That's just the way Britishers talk. He was born in England, wasn't he?
Chester Proudfoot
Well, what's he doing over here, then? Why didn't he take a home where folks could understand him?
Doc
Oh, now, I expect he's here for about the same reason the rest of us are.
Pete Knudsen
What reason?
Doc
To make a living.
Chester Proudfoot
Oh, now, Doc, I don't believe nobody who talks like he does knows how to make a living these ways. He sure don't know how to keep a horse, see?
Doc
You know, I've run into a couple of these fellows before. They're what they call second sons.
Chester Proudfoot
Second son? What's that?
Doc
Well, it's the second son born into a British family, you see. Usually a wealthy family or sometimes even a title family.
Chester Proudfoot
You mean lords and dukes and queens and all such as that?
Doc
Could be.
Chester Proudfoot
Well, say, then this Carstairs fella might be rich.
Doc
You can't be sure. In England, it's the first sons who get everything,
Chester Proudfoot
Doc. You mean them lords and dukes and stuff don't give their second boys nothing?
Doc
Sometimes? Not unless maybe they send them something a couple times a year to keep them from hanging around the estate raising a fuss.
Chester Proudfoot
You mean they bribe their boys to stay away?
Doc
It's been done. Sometimes those second sons turn out to be kind of an ornery. Once they find out that they're not going to get their share of the family loot.
Narrator/Storyteller
It's a dirty trick.
Chester Proudfoot
You can't rightly blame them for that. Say, Doc, you. You reckon this Cars fell is getting paid to stay away?
Doc
Can't tell, Chester. Well, something to think about, though.
Matt Dillon
Give me a beer, will you, Sam? I'll take it over to the table.
Pete Knudsen
Sure, Marshall, you go.
Matt Dillon
No, thanks. Oh, evening, kitty.
Miss Kitty
Hello, matt. Sit down.
Matt Dillon
Thank you.
Miss Kitty
Are you going to talk to me? Are you just going to look around the room?
Pete Knudsen
Huh?
Matt Dillon
Oh, I'm sorry, Kitty. I. I was just looking for somebody.
Miss Kitty
He's over there at the far table. You can't see him too well with all the crowd standing around.
Matt Dillon
Yeah. How'd you figure I'd be interested in Carstairs?
Miss Kitty
Everybody's interested in him.
Matt Dillon
I hear he's the willingest poker player to hit Dodge since the Santa Fe Railroad.
Miss Kitty
Gangs willingness. Loser. He doesn't seem to care who he loses it to, so he keeps on playing.
Matt Dillon
I wonder where he gets his money.
Miss Kitty
Well, they say all he has to do is walk into the bank and he comes out with all the money he wants.
Matt Dillon
It could be gossip, you know. He was down to bet on his horse a few days ago.
Miss Kitty
You worried about him, Matt?
Matt Dillon
No, not exactly worried. Kiddie's a likable fella. I just hate to see him losing all his money.
Miss Kitty
I wonder why he's doing this.
Matt Dillon
He wants to learn to play good enough poker so that he can sit in on another game with Beat Newton. He wants to win his horse back.
Miss Kitty
Well, you can't blame him for that. But if Knudsen hears about the money, there'll be a lot more involved than a horse.
Sedgeley Carstairs
Opens tomorrow. Then I'll be only too glad. Hi. Hello, Marshall. Miss Kitty.
Miss Kitty
Hello.
Sedgeley Carstairs
S mighty pleasant chaps in here, Marshall.
Matt Dillon
Why shouldn't they be pleasant? I understand here supposed to.
Sedgeley Carstairs
I am losing a good deal of money. That's true. But I'm learning, Marshall. I'm learning. Well, good day, Marshall.
Matt Dillon
You must open the bank this morning, Sedge.
Sedgeley Carstairs
Oh, no, Marshall. Mr. Botkin was there and the bank was open for business. But. Oh, you're joking me, huh?
Matt Dillon
You better get that money out of sight.
Sedgeley Carstairs
Seems hardly worthwhile, does it? I lose it as fast as I get it.
Matt Dillon
Yeah, well, Serge, I'd like to talk to you about that.
Sedgeley Carstairs
Oh, it's my money, Marshall. Nothing shady about it.
Matt Dillon
I'm not worried about that. I just think maybe you ought to be more careful, that's all.
Sedgeley Carstairs
Careful?
Matt Dillon
Yeah. There's talk all over town that you're a rich man. For somebody as free and easy with his money as you are, it could be dangerous.
Sedgeley Carstairs
Then you haven't a worry in the world. I'm certainly not a rich man.
Matt Dillon
Maybe you ought to quit acting like one.
Sedgeley Carstairs
Oh, it's just that my latest bank draft was waiting for me here when I got to town.
Matt Dillon
Bank draft?
Sedgeley Carstairs
Yes, from London. They send me a remittance check twice a year, Marshal, to keep me safely on this side of the ocean. But it'll be gone soon.
Matt Dillon
Well, it's your business. Just make sure that you don't lose more than your money.
Sedgeley Carstairs
Thank you for your interest, Marshall. Now, if you'll excuse me.
Matt Dillon
Yeah, I'll see you later, sir.
Chester Proudfoot
Mr. Jones?
Matt Dillon
None. Yeah, what is it, Chester?
Chester Proudfoot
Mr. Jones beat Newson and his crowd just got in from Abilene. They went right into Dodge House.
Matt Dillon
How many of them?
Chester Proudfoot
Well, there's four of them all together. It's a funny thing though.
Matt Dillon
Now what's that?
Chester Proudfoot
They tied up five horses.
Matt Dillon
One without a saddle.
Doc
Yes sir, that's the way it was.
Matt Dillon
Pete's really rubbing it in, isn't he?
Chester Proudfoot
Oh, well, shucks, Mr. Dillon. If sedge didn't have no better sense than to lose his horse in the first place.
Matt Dillon
I just hope he wins it back, Chester, for his sake. And I also hope he rides it right out of town.
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This land is your land this land is my land this land was
Sedgeley Carstairs
Stephen
Narrator
Foster came from Alabama and Al Jolson was always Alabami bound. Even though there was no particular validity to these claims, there was a definite sincerity behind them. For Bama has a sense of charm and hospitality unlike any other state. Maybe Stephen Foster didn't come from Alabama, but Helen Keller did. And so did a lone wolf train robber named Rube Burrow. And what if Jolson didn't go there? George Washington Carver did. And his experiments at Tuskegee brought international fame to him and the state. For all the deep, radical changes experienced by the cotton state, some things never seem to change. Each spring, the fields and roadsides are carpeted with primroses. Green fields turn pale pink and roll wave like in the wind. Alabama, like much of the south, seeks to combine 20th century industrial progress with the barn raisings and and candy pools of an earlier era. And what is more, Alabama succeeds.
Pete Knudsen
Hello, Knudson. Hello. It's about time you showed up.
Chester Proudfoot
I thought you'd be down to the
Pete Knudsen
long branch, but now, what do you mean by that? Well, the whole town's been waiting for you to come in so's you could
Matt Dillon
play poker with that English fella.
Pete Knudsen
Why should I play poker with him? I already cleaned him out. I even got his horse. Yeah, that's what he wants to win back.
Doc
I don't know why he put such
Pete Knudsen
a store by it, though. Why, he could buy a string of
Matt Dillon
horses if he wanted to.
Pete Knudsen
You been winning, Sedge?
Chester Proudfoot
Win money?
Pete Knudsen
Not hardly, but that don't matter. Why?
Narrator/Storyteller
Well, he's rich. Yes.
Chester Proudfoot
Mean, you didn't know that?
Pete Knudsen
Well, he didn't have no money on the way up from Texas.
Matt Dillon
Well, it just come.
Pete Knudsen
It come from London, England to the bank. He goes and gets some every day. I hear Taylor got another big wad this morning. You know what you're talking about? Well, anybody will tell you. Well, maybe I will. Just mosey down there and play a little poker. After all, gotta give the man a chance to win back his horse.
Matt Dillon
Sure.
Pete Knudsen
Hey, Knudsen well, if it ain't the marshal.
Matt Dillon
You heading for the Long branch?
Pete Knudsen
I didn't know I had to report to you.
Matt Dillon
You don't. But there are a lot of stories been going around town. Knudsen, I just don't want any trouble.
Pete Knudsen
You got a law against playing poker.
Matt Dillon
There ought to be, the way you play it.
Pete Knudsen
Well, Marshall, I just want to give the man a chance to win his horse back.
Matt Dillon
Allison notes. And I've you told. Told Sedge that if he's smart, he'll just try to win that horse and then quit. I'll tell him the same thing to you.
Pete Knudsen
Well, thank you, Marshall, but I just figure I'll have to take my chances without any help from you.
Matt Dillon
Just don't start anything, Lucille.
Pete Knudsen
No, no, no, of course not, Mar.
Chester Proudfoot
Mr. Dillon, there's something downright peculiar going on around here.
Pete Knudsen
What?
Chester Proudfoot
Well, that English fella, he won back his horse from Beat Newton.
Matt Dillon
He did?
Chester Proudfoot
Mm.
Matt Dillon
Looks like Carstair's luck has finally changed.
Chester Proudfoot
Oh, no, no. Old Beat stood pat on a pair of sixes. Now, you know he never done a thing like that before in his life.
Matt Dillon
And he let Carstairs win.
Chester Proudfoot
But that's not all. They all went off to the Liver Stable, Knudsen and his crowd, to get the horse. As you please. Knudsen had a jug, and they was getting Old Sedge all liquored up. Well, I. Well, it. It don't make sense, but are they still there? That's what I was getting at.
Matt Dillon
They.
Chester Proudfoot
They rolled off out of town.
Matt Dillon
Come on, Chester. I think maybe we better follow him.
Chester Proudfoot
You reckon they took the road to Hay City?
Matt Dillon
Now, they headed off this way towards some cover.
Doc
Come on.
Matt Dillon
I gotta play a hunch. Chester, isn't there a deserted shack just over the rise?
Chester Proudfoot
Yes, sure there is.
Matt Dillon
I figure they'd stop the first place they come to.
Pete Knudsen
Who?
Chester Proudfoot
You think they're going to gamble him for the rest of his money?
Matt Dillon
They won't bother to gamble.
Narrator/Storyteller
Chester.
Matt Dillon
Yeah? We'll leave the horses here. Yeah, there it is. Four horses out in front. All right, listen, Chester, you keep low and you go up to the window on the left side there, see? Now, you think you can make it?
Chester Proudfoot
Yes, sir, I can make it.
Narrator/Storyteller
All right.
Matt Dillon
Good. I'll go around to the front. When I get to the door, you cover me through the window.
Narrator/Storyteller
All right. You ready?
Doc
I'm ready.
Matt Dillon
Come on, then. All right, Chester, you're covered. Nukes. And drop your gun.
Pete Knudsen
Why not?
Matt Dillon
Either of you two want to argue? Not me, Marshall. All right, climb through the window and get their guns, Chester.
Sedgeley Carstairs
Yes, sir.
Matt Dillon
Now stand them up against the wall.
Chester Proudfoot
Yes, sir, I will. All right, step lively.
Matt Dillon
You.
Chester Proudfoot
Move along, both of you.
Narrator
Come on.
Pete Knudsen
You may have got me, Marshall, but you're too late for that fancy talker.
Matt Dillon
Where is he? Knudsen, Where's Carstairs?
Pete Knudsen
He's in the gully out back. Dead. Dead as I'm gonna be.
Matt Dillon
You're a fool, Knudsen. All you had to do was keep on playing poker with him. He'd have lost everything he had. You didn't need to kill him to get it.
Pete Knudsen
Marshall, you wanna laugh something funny?
Matt Dillon
Newsome.
Pete Knudsen
All that money they talked about? It was all spent. He just had $3 on him. $3. Hanging out.
Matt Dillon
Chester. Man's life should be worth more than $3.
Narrator/Storyteller
A lot more.
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Hosted by Andrew Rhynes — August 8, 2026
This episode, digitally enhanced and presented by Andrew Rhynes, offers a restored broadcast of Gunsmoke’s “Second Son” from January 12, 1958. The story revolves around themes of honor, loss, class, and violence on the American frontier, as an English second son, Sedgeley Carstairs, finds himself embroiled in a dangerous pursuit to win back his horse—lost in a poker game—amid the skepticism and greed of Dodge City’s residents.
| Segment | Timestamp | |-------------------------------|------------| | Episode Introduction | 01:36–03:51| | Sedgeley Carstairs introduced | 04:57–08:11| | Authenticity & “Second Sons” | 11:04–13:18| | Dodge City poker & rumors | 13:35–16:50| | Knudsen returns to Dodge | 17:00–18:21| | Knudsen’s scheming | 21:37–24:28| | The deadly ambush | 25:04–28:11| | Closing reflection | 28:03–28:11|
The episode expertly blends the dry wit and world-weariness of Matt Dillon with the skepticism and humor of Chester, set against the backdrop of Dodge City’s often harsh, class-conscious, and dangerous reality. There is a strong undercurrent of melancholy over honor, fortune, and violence—in a world where a man’s life can be squandered for almost nothing.
This "Gunsmoke" episode serves as both gripping drama and social commentary, interrogating themes of class, luck, and the value of life on the frontier. With enhanced audio that highlights the timeless performances and atmospheric sound design, this restored classic remains as compelling as ever—reminding us that sometimes, the right choice is not the honorable one, but the one that keeps you breathing.
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