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Matt Dillon, United States Marshal, the first man they look for and the last they want to meet. It's a chancy job and it makes a man watchful and a little lonely. Well, my goodness. Now if that sure don't beat all. What's the matter, Chester? Odie Perkins coming down the street there with a mat on so thick you can feel it right through the winder. Odie's not a man to get tempered easy. Well, he sure is now, Mr. Dillon. He's a doggone rile. He's leaving a blue streak behind him. It's a gospel truth. Look, that can't be anything serious. Marshall Dillon. Morning, Otie. Marshal. I'm here to call on the power and protection of the law in all its majesty and might. Well, that's a pretty tall order, Otie. You got Some reason for needing the law? Reason? I got reasons that go back as far as 15 years. Marshall, I want to swear out a complaint, an injunction, a bench warrant, whatever it is it takes to get a certain low life scum evicted from the premises, run out of dodge, banished from the territory and horsewhip to boot. If you can work it in somehow. Well, what's a certain person down out ain't it deserve that kind? What he's done as much as what he is. And I ought to noted long before this, but he sure had me fooled. You're not by any chance talking? I'm Talking about Brace McCoy, that's who I'm talking about. And I even hate to let his sneak in name soil my lips. Yeah, but Odie, you and Brace have been partners as long as I can remember. Oh, not no more we ain't. Not since this morning. Marshall, I want him throwed clean off the place. Now wait a second. As I recall, you boys took up that homestead as joint tenants, huh? Brace has got as much right there as you have. Well, Marshall? Yeah, come in, Brace. We were just talking about it. I want to get a fella strode off of my property. Marshal. Natural facts. You're referring to Hody Perkins. That's a fellow, Marshal. But him and me ain't speaking and that's a fact. You're gol darn tootin we ain't, not now nor never. I'll sign the papers now if you'll just read em up. I'll remind you, Marshal, I come here first. Fiction papers for roadie wouldn't be no use no how. Little vomit can't write and that's a fact. I can make as good acts as you can. I mean he can. Now wait a minute. Just look at him, Marshall. He ought to be ashamed of himself. Great big blubber mouth. It outweighs me twice again and he comes in here sniveling for the law to help him out. Just a minute. Proud of me. And I'm gonna whop him good. And that's a fair. Not while I'm wearing this here six gun. You ain't gonna what? Nobody. I mean he. Will you shut up, both of you. Now who started all this ruckus? It's personal, Marshall. Me. I'd rather not say. Huh, well that's just fine. For 15 years you've ridden together, finally took up land together and all of a sudden you start sidling around with your hackles up, ready to throw lead at one another and you won't even say why, huh? Just get in particular who I live with. All I want him out of my house. I got this straight, both of you. You own that farm jointly and no legal reason to throw either one of you off. So until you settle your differences or sell out, you're gonna make the best of it. I already offered to buy him out. I ain't budging, and that's a fact. All right. If you can't settle it yourselves, I'll settle it for you. Chester. Yes, sir. Will you hand me those cards over there? Yes. Here you are, Mr. Jones. Yeah. Now, as I recall, you got a fair to middling house out there and a mighty good barn. Until you sell, you gotta stay on the place to take care of the stock. All right. Now, one of you lives in the house and the other one in the barn. And you'll leave each other alone. Is that completely clear? All right, Brace, you cut first. High card takes his choice. Well, all right. 10. That's good. Ain't as good as a queen. All right, what's your choice, Odie? The barn. It smells Better than McCoy. Odie, you come around my house and I'll break you in half. That's a fact. Step one foot in my bar and I'll blast you full of holes. Now, remember what I told you, both of you. You leave each other alone. Guess I better get back out to my house. Good day. I'll be going to my barn now, Marshall. Much obliged. Why don't you stand in the breeze a little while, Oda? You might cool off a little. Well, I declare, if that don't beat all. I guess tain't nothing serious, though. It's not like him, Chester. I'm afraid it is serious. I just hope it don't get more so. Why don't you live modern Live modern Live, live, live modern Change to L. M Only with L. 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A real good cook, too, I hear, huh? Yeah. She's sort of lost since Ma Smolly went back East. Hey, look. She did most of the work on this costume. You like it? That doesn't look like that one took much sewing. Kitty, this is the kind where the stone's important. Yeah, I guess a lot depends on it. How about having a drink with me, huh? I tasted the morning wind from the south and my heart beats the lark song. What's that? It means I'll have a drink with you. Oh, okay. Oh, wait a minute, Kitty. Matt. Yeah. What's the matter? Doc mad? I just drove in from up towards the flat and I passed the McCoy Perkins farm on the way. You better get out there, man, before those two kill each other. What do you mean? Why? They got a confounded war going on. One of them's barricaded in the barn, the other's holed up in the house. And they're firing bullets back and forth so fast, it sounds like the Battle of Shiloh. I haven't heard from them for three days. I was hoping maybe they'd cooled off by now. Cooler didn't sound very cool when I came back. Kitty, looks like you'll have to stretch out that Lark song a little. It's all right, man. Okay, some other time. Mr. Dillon. I never realized it was so far out here. Doc wasn't putting on nothing about it. Doggone a bit don't sound like Shiloh. Lame fools. You'd think they were old enough to have better sense. Now, that's just too doggone close for comfort. I'll comfort him right up. Chelsea. Odie. Bryce. Mac. Dillon. Hold your fire, both of you. All right. Come on, Chess. Let's go over to the barn first. Odie, you in there, you darn truthing. I am, Marshall. That big hunk of buzzard bait ain't about to dislodge me neither. I am, though. I'll give you just five seconds to get that door open and come out here. Now. Wait, Marshall. You hurt me, Odie. Okay. I wasn't the one that started. Chester, Take his gun and keep him covered. Yes, sir. I sure will, Mr. Dinners. Brace. What do you want? You gonna open that door or you want me to shoot it? Open. Not more too lucky. I'll open it. Ain't no call to get all angered up and that's a fact. All right, I'll take your gun, Brace. And that's a fact. Here, give it to me. All right, come on out here. I was only defending myself, Marshal. That scrawny little weasel started it all. Marshall, don't you believe nothing Grace says. He was born alive. Shut up, Woody. Well, I guess the only thing to do is to see if you two can manage to get along in separate jail cells. Him? I'm putting you both under arrest for disturbing the peace. Oh, now, wait just a minute. What do you mean? Ain't nobody around here. Marshall, whose peace we disturb? Mine. Oh. Come on, let's go. 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I'll be right back. Ah, morning, boys. Marshall. Well, how about it? You about ready to stop feuding? Sure. Brace will get hisself off my property. I will. I ain't even to budge, Marshal, and that's a fact. You kind of like it here, huh? Man can't go back on his principles, Marshal. He ain't got no more principles than a hungry coward. All right, that's enough. You act like a couple of wet roosters, and you can't even remember what the whole thing started about. I remember. I. I'll tell you what it started about, Marshall. It started because Brace didn't figure I was fancying his vittles up enough to suit him for A whole week, Marshall. He didn't fix nothing but flapjacks in the morning and how many grits at night with side meat in Em Weren't side meat. It was sow belly and it weren't fit to eat. You know what he done, Marshall? When I put them grits on the table, he throwed him on the floor and tromped all over him with his boots on. That's all he was fitting for. I wouldn't throw riddles like that in the hall. I seen many a day you'd be glad for. Now, wait a. Is this the truth? Is this what this whole thing's all about? Well, it's what it started about, but it ain't what it's about now. Not anymore it ain't, Marshall. No, sir. Shallot mo nut. Now I come to realize I've been keeping a viper in my bosom. You can be mighty mistaken about a man, Marshall, and that's a fact. Yeah, but you two thought well of each other for years. It seems to me a friendship like that ought to last over at least one fool argument. Brace McCoy ain't no friend of mine. Not no more, he ain't. Once I get out of this cell, I'm gonna whomp that little gopher to an inch of his life right across the sights of my gun. That's how I want to. All right, boys, all right. Just settle back. Looks like you're gonna have plenty of time to think up names to call each other. Marshall. Yeah? How long you aim to keep us in this miserable old jailhouse? You got some sense die of old age. How they making out, man? Oh, like a pair of tomcats, Doc. I don't know what I'm gonna do with them. I can't keep them locked up forever. For two nice fellows like them, they sure did turn mean awful sudden. If you ask me, they're both probably aching to make up. Yeah, I've been thinking along those same lines, Doc. Seems to me they could have killed each other out there on the farm if they'd really been trying to. Of course they could. Why, they must have fired over a hundred rounds at each other. Yeah, but if I let them out, they'll either kill each other by accident or kill somebody else. Unless they could. Yeah. Chester. Yes? Sure. There's an Indian woman named Summer Dove somewhere around town. Kitty can tell you where she is. Go find her and get her over here as soon as you can, will you? All right, Mr. Dillon. Boys, this is Summer Dove. These are the two men I was telling you About Summer Dove. The short skinny one is Odie Perkins, and the fat one is Brace McCoy. How do? Howdy, Ms. Dove. How to know you, man? Summer Dove's one of the best cooks in Ford county, boys. Small, they taught her, huh? So she needs a place to live, she'll work for her keep. What are you getting at, Marshall? Well, you boys got a place out there that you're not using that lean to against the barn? It might be fixed up pretty comfortable. Like I said, Summer Dove's a mighty fine cook, all right. I'd be proud to hire on Ms. Summerdove, Marshal. Providing you fix it to keep that ornery sidewinder away from my property. Ah, Sidewinder, you race. You come within 20 yards of me, you better come a shoot. All right, boys. Told it. Well, Summer Dove, these are the two men I thought you might like to work for. Or one of them, more likely. One man. Two men makes no difference. All right, wait out in the office for me, will you, Nico? Boys, if you can't come to any agreement, it looks like there's only one way to settle this. What you got there, Marshall? Your guns. I figure you couldn't kill each other out there at the farm because you had too much cover. But here it's different. What are you doing, Marshal? I'm putting your guns on the floor of your cells. But neither one of you touch them now till I'm out of here. Oh, now wait just a minute. I don't like this, Marshal, and that's a fact. There's nothing between you now but an eight foot corridor and open bars. You get it settled, boys, one way or the other. I'll be in my office. Let me see. Yeah, I think that'll do it, mate. Doc. Doggone you, man. Oh, that was a sneaky move. Yes, it was if I ever saw one. Yeah, it was. I swear. I can't get over it, Mr. Dillon. Odie and Brace walking out of here that way arm in arm, like there hadn't never been no crossword between. Well, it's like Doc said, Chester. They were anxious enough to make up. All they needed was a push. Well, you sure did take a big chance so giving them their guns back. Ah, they didn't want to kill each other. Somebody just had to make them realize it, that's all. I wasn't taking much chance. He sure wasn't, Chester. Not the way he did it. Chester, you can ride out there tomorrow and take these guns to him, if you will. And see if Summer Dove's got us all Settled down all right, sir? Mr. John? What do you mean, Doc? Not the way he did it. Just that Chester Matt doesn't take any chances. You don't call that taking a chance when they might have killed each other. Not with the blanks he made and put in their guns. He made bang. Sure. Like those actors use on the stage. Why, of course. I figured what he was up to. He didn't fool me any. Well, you sure fool me, Mr. Dillon. I was sitting here on pins and needles, just waiting for the sound of death. Oh, you're uneasy, marchester. You know, Doc, I was pretty sure about those fellows all the time. You were? Yeah. You see that whiskey bottle out there? Of course. I see why blanks do. In a moment, our star, William Conrad. 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Old Time Radio Westerns — Gunsmoke: "Thick ‘n’ Thin" (09-16-56) Host: Andrew Rhynes | Episode Date: September 16, 2025
In this classic Gunsmoke episode, "Thick ‘n’ Thin," two long-time friends turned homesteading partners, Odie Perkins and Brace McCoy, find their relationship unraveling into bitter feuding over seemingly trivial matters. Marshal Matt Dillon and his trusted allies step in to prevent escalating violence and, through some clever frontier psychology, coax the former friends to reconcile. This episode captures the blend of humor, tension, and humanity that defined the golden age of Western radio drama.
Notable Quote:
"Marshal, I want him throwed clean off the place. Now, wait a second. As I recall, you boys took up that homestead as joint tenants, huh? Brace has got as much right there as you have." — Matt Dillon (05:45)
Notable Quote:
"That big hunk of buzzard bait ain’t about to dislodge me neither ... I'll give you just five seconds to get that door open and come out here." — Matt Dillon demanding Odie step outside (15:29)
Notable Quote:
"It started because Brace didn’t figure I was fancying his vittles up enough ... he throwed [the grits] on the floor and tromped all over 'em with his boots on." — Odie Perkins (21:33)
Notable Quotes:
"You get it settled, boys, one way or the other. I'll be in my office." — Matt Dillon (27:40) "Now wait just a minute, I don’t like this, Marshal, and that's a fact." — Brace McCoy (27:48)
Notable Quote:
"He sure wasn't, Chester. Not the way he did it... Not with the blanks he made and put in their guns." — Doc Adams explaining Dillon's ruse (31:20)
Summary:
"Thick ‘n’ Thin" is a classic radio Western that transforms a comic feud between inseparable old coots into a reflection on friendship. Marshal Dillon’s wise manipulation and the warmth of Dodge’s community spirit bring the partners back together—reminding listeners that even in the Wild West, a sharp mind and a kind heart win out over bickering and bravado.