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Older & Wilder
Hosted by GGW Media · EN
Funny, honest, easy to listen to - we are often described as, "like listening to your best friends have a conversation at dinner."
This is Joy and Claire is an evolution of the weekly podcast Girls Gone WOD, which we created back in June 2013. Since then we have released over 400 weekly episodes and bonus features, and created an amazing community of supportive listeners around the world.
We are so excited to bring years of podcasting experience to this new project, with honesty, humor, and insights on everything from mental health, wellness, marriage, and parenting, to all the other random things that you’d talk to your friends about. Subscribe now and join the conversation!
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Do We Ever Outgrow Skinny Culture?
4d ago00:26:29Tap to summarizeJoy and Claire recap Claire’s trip and an Indian-Jewish wedding featuring elaborate bridal henna. They start a segment on being grateful for fitness and a “marriage hack” involving Nordstrom Anniversary Sale clothes. The conversation shifts to evolving body image, past macro-counting/CrossFit diet culture harms, and mixed feelings about GLP-1s and cosmetic fixes, plus personal body-change wishes. They close with “What a Time to Be Alive” moments and a Japan trip launching August 15 for May 2028. 00:00 Welcome Back and Henna01:41 Haircut Waitlist Madness02:55 National Park Permit Frenzy03:47 Wedding Glass Mishap04:48 Grateful for Fitness06:51 Bike Lifting and Costco Strength11:13 Nordstrom Marriage Hack15:32 Body Image Mindset Shift18:08 Beauty Standards and Insecurities21:30 Macro Counting Flashback25:37 Macro Hunger Wakeups26:26 Diet Culture Red Flags26:57 GLP-1 Temptation Talk27:39 Postpartum Body Shift29:45 Fitness Without Obsession32:47 Cosmetic Fixes And Filler35:16 Toxins And Foot Baths37:13 Muscle Gains And Gym Insecurities38:45 Body Changes We Wanted46:21 What A Time To Be Alive50:55 Wrap Up And Japan Trip
Transcribe →The One with the Skunk, the Dogs, and Ted Lasso
2w ago00:20:33Tap to summarizeSkunked Dogs, Puppy Tummy Trouble, and a Midlife Culture CheckJoy and Claire share life updates from a random episode: Claire is in Colorado for the week for a friend’s wedding and a hectic round of visiting friends and kids’ friends; she and Brandon started watching and loving Ted Lasso. Back in Moab, their dog River got skunked late at night. Joy recounts taking puppy McCoy to the vet for tummy issues. They discuss concerns about ultra-thin celebrity trends, fillers, and weight-loss drugs, note Joy’s Morpheus8 results and improved Botox longevity, share a positive recovery update on Ronnie Z amid nearby Colorado wildfires, touch on tick-related alpha-gal syndrome, and end with “would you rather” questions and glucose-monitor/berberine reflections.00:00 Colorado Catch Up01:32 Kids Flying Solo02:09 Desert Heat Problems03:34 Starting Ted Lasso04:40 River Gets Skunked10:30 Celebrity Thinness Talk17:30 Body Image And Aging19:32 McCoy Vomiting Mystery20:43 Missing Dog Tag Clue21:41 Mystery Tag Found22:38 3AM Staircase Disaster24:22 Carpet Cleaner Saves Day26:53 Probiotics Fixes27:32 Morpheus8 Update28:20 Ronnie Z Recovery29:01 Wildfire Worries30:24 Tick Meat Allergy32:31 Would You Rather Game33:00 Glucose Monitor Check In34:54 More Would You Rathers40:19 Wrap Up And Goodbye
Transcribe →Fireworks, Family, and Fun: A Mid-July Check In
3w ago00:20:23Tap to summarizeFourth of July Fireworks, Red Rocks Night, and Midlife Health Check-InsJoy and Claire recap their Fourth of July weekends: Claire traveled to Wisconsin for her in-laws’ elaborate fireworks tradition, including a 30,000-firecracker “Super String,”. Joy stayed local, enjoyed downtown Castle Rock and gelato, watched the suspense film “Obsession,” and attended Andrea Gibson’s “Love Letter From the Afterlife” event at Red Rocks featuring Sara Bareilles. They discuss logistics of traveling and dog-sitting, kids visiting grandparents and Chicago, upcoming wedding plans, and Joy’s midlife health concerns about elevated A1C, glucose monitoring, cortisol testing, sleep disruptions, and diet changes.00:00 Fourth of July Catchup01:10 Fireworks Family Lore02:37 ADHD Partner Perspective05:28 Super String Explained07:07 Dogs and Firework Anxiety08:15 Dog Sitter and Goofy Pups11:37 Castle Rock Weekend Treats12:42 Movies and Red Rocks Night16:55 Taylor and Travis Wedding Talk22:46 Wedding Media Pressure23:19 Reception Details Rumors24:27 Nail Talk And Acrylics26:20 Colorado Trip And Kids Travel27:50 Dog Logistics And Boarding28:39 Puppy Raisers Updates29:33 A1C Concerns And Hormones32:46 Food Swaps Air Fryer34:12 Microplastics And New Blender35:38 Frozen Dog Treats39:04 July Halloween Creep40:00 Wrap Up And Goodbye
Transcribe →Gift Giving Winning
4w ago00:25:23Tap to summarizeJoy and Claire celebrate Scott’s 49th birthday and discuss Joy’s improved gift-giving, including a Lululemon gym bag Scott wanted and an engraved Ikigai modular vitamin case paired with higher-quality supplements to replace Gruns gummy vitamins, which Claire critiques for poor bioavailability and lack of transparency similar to proprietary blends like AG1. Joy shares updates on service-dog-in-training Lilas and dog-sitting retired breeder Paxton, plus dynamics with Joe and puppy McCoy. They react to influencer-promoted camel-toe covers, discuss America’s Sweethearts and end with Joy’s emotional story about her dad thanking a nurse after his accident and brief Taylor Swift wedding speculation.00:00 Scott Birthday Intro00:47 Gift Giving Wins02:26 Lululemon Bag Plan03:42 Gummy Vitamin Rant06:21 Bougie Vitamin Case08:21 Owala Lid Drama11:23 Wildfire Season Talk12:09 Fireworks Debate Online16:55 Slay Ride to 5017:59 Leela Training Update20:23 Paxton Dog Sitting23:15 Dog Humping Confessions25:26 Dog Farm Pool Practice26:49 McCoy Puppy Update27:47 Camel Toe Cover Debate29:32 Shame Wear Reviews32:06 America's Sweethearts Talk35:17 Cheerleading Reality Check38:01 Sports and Streaming Rants39:15 Movie Buzz and Jackass42:25 Dad's Nurse Thank You46:34 Taylor Wedding Theories49:48 Wrap Up and Farewell
Transcribe →Family Time Recap
Jun 2500:20:51Tap to summarizeFather’s Day Adventures, Wildfire Worries, and Life UpdatesJoey and Claire share a post–Father’s Day episode covering family outings and life updates. Claire describes a cooler La Sals climbing day near Moab with other families, kids’ backseat squabbles, and rescuing a three-legged dog. Joy updates listeners that her dad is improving after an accident, off oxygen, staying active. They also spread their dog JT’s ashes in Westcliffe and made a resin memorial to cement near the creek, inviting others to send memorial items. They discuss Claire's dad’s metastatic melanoma, aging and staying mobile, BASE jumping deaths in Moab, weird Facebook Marketplace finds, and reality TV takes (Love Island, Summer House).00:00 Father’s Day Catch-Up00:25 Climbing in La Sals01:09 Backseat Sibling Battles02:00 Three-Legged Dog Rescue02:31 Smoke and Fire Season04:39 Where to Live Debate08:53 Ronnie Z Health Update12:19 Spreading JT’s Ashes13:56 Creekside Memorial Plans17:06 John Hay Melanoma Update18:01 Sibling Age Gaps19:49 Brothers and Texting21:11 Texting Etiquette Confessions22:34 Aging and Staying Active23:30 Aging And Injuries23:46 Cartwheels And Animal Moves26:07 Martial Arts Falls26:44 Just Pull Harder28:03 Kids Climb Everything29:15 Moab Base Jumping Tragedy32:33 Weird Marketplace Finds35:16 Reality TV Rabbit Hole39:50 Husband Best Friend Debate40:58 Wrap Up And Plugs
Transcribe →Ronnie's Creek Adventure
Jun 1800:18:16Tap to summarizeRonnie’s Lawnmower Accident, Hospital Aftercare, and Finding Joy OnlineJoy and Claire discuss Joy’s Father’s Day weekend plans and a serious accident involving Joy’s 84-year-old dad who tipped a riding lawnmower. He went to the ER, was transferred to Colorado Springs, spent time in the ICU, and was diagnosed with seven fractured ribs, with scans to rule out internal complications. Joy emphasizes how crucial attentive nurses and having another person present for discharge instructions can be, notes her mom’s overwhelm, and reflects on accepting an aging parent’s autonomy when he insisted on going home with oxygen, a walker, and breathing exercises. They broaden the conversation to staying active and avoiding overcomplicating health. Claire shares two joyful viral trends: the “Dominican Sisters Open Mic” nun podcast and Europeans’ reactions to American culture and scale.00:00 Welcome Back and Fathers Day00:30 The Accident Call01:42 What Happened at the Creek05:13 The Real Story Revealed09:51 ER Scan and Transfer10:52 ICU Visit and Great Nurses13:21 Aftercare and Advocating16:57 Healthcare Burnout Talk18:44 Hospital Gratitude19:00 Dad Insists Going Home21:14 Aftercare And Recovery24:43 Staying Active Matters28:53 Viral Nun Podcast31:33 Pride Weekend In Lincoln33:48 Europeans React To America36:02 Wrap Up And Fathers Day
Transcribe →Small Town and Gym Life
Jun 1100:22:24Tap to summarizeHaircuts, Rec Center Workouts, a Bozeman Concert, and Remembering Chris MooreJoy and Claire catch up on Claire's new haircut, including a subtle side undercut meant as a low-maintenance nod to her former mullet, and her small-town Moab salon experience. They discuss how making friends in a new town can hinge on community spaces. Joy commits to the rec center, explores the weight room, and embraces fun classes like BodyPump rather than rigid “should” rules about fitness. Joy shares gardening projects as a coping outlet, her interest in quirky workouts like Kangoo Jumps, and a question about Trader Joe’s small talk. Updates include a new puppy-raising dog, McCoy, Moab’s sudden heat and the dogs’ sunbathing, a Montana trip to Bozeman for a Marcus Mumford concert disrupted by very drunk attendees, upcoming travel and Pride event help in Lincoln, and a reflection on the 10-year anniversary of Barbell Shrugged host Chris Moore’s sudden death and the impact of their final interview.00:00 Welcome and No Chat00:36 New Haircut and Undercut01:25 Mullet Nostalgia and Styling03:41 Peloton Hair Inspiration04:40 Moab Salon Behind Gelato05:53 Small Town Friend Talk Bagels08:10 No Church Get a Gym09:51 Rec Center Weight Room Return13:26 Workout Rules and Stacy Sims16:18 Gardening Soreness and Aging17:48 Kangoo Jumps and Fitness Fads19:05 Trader Joe's Small Talk21:08 McCoy the New Puppy22:24 New Puppy Vibes23:00 Moab Summer Heat23:39 Dogs Sunbathing25:00 Turf Yard Update25:33 Bozeman Trip Recap28:35 Concert Crowd Chaos31:21 Travel Plans Ahead32:15 Nebraska Pride Weekend33:48 Taylor Wedding Rumors35:26 Swiftie Easter Eggs39:04 Remembering Chris Moore44:15 Wrap Up and Goodbye
Transcribe →90's Parties and Crime Fighting
Jun 400:24:17Tap to summarizeA ’90s Party, AI Anxiety, and an Unexpected Brushfire BustJoy and Claire chat about the fast passage of time, a full moon, and Claire’s ’90s outfit for a decades-themed 40th birthday party—complete with butterfly clips, a choker and mini backpack borrowed from her daughter—sparking nostalgia about music, school routines, and teen insecurities. They discuss aging and appearance pressures amplified by phones, Zoom, Botox, facelifts, and celebrity standards, plus skepticism about gurus after a flawed Stacey Sims hydration take. The conversation turns to AI: fears, a papal critique, productivity benefits, data-center controversies, and how AI accelerates workplace expectations. Claire shares a Moab encounter with an engineer connected to the James Webb Space Telescope, highlighting creativity in STEM. Joy recounts spotting and reporting an arsonist starting a brush fire near I-25, leading to an arrest. They close with product notes (Act&Acre hard water shampoo, sun gloves, ORLY breathable polish, Ilia SPF skin tint).00:00 Welcome and June Time Warp00:53 Full Moon and 40th Party01:21 Clueless Outfit Breakdown03:50 Reunions and Disposable Cameras06:10 90s Bedrooms and Bunk Beds07:46 90s Routines and Hair Hacks10:02 Chumbawamba Grasslands Story11:13 Teen Insecurities Then Now13:20 Mirrors Phones and Zoom Face16:02 Facelifts Ozempic and Gurus18:18 Hydration Myth and Electrolytes19:45 Commercialization and GLP-1 Talk20:30 Pharma Ads Culture Shock21:15 AI Anxiety and The Pope22:47 AI at Work and Data Centers27:35 Moab Ice Cream NASA Encounter34:55 Arsonist Spotted and 911 Call41:23 Rec Center Fitness Reset42:37 Products and Pet Peeves47:41 Wrap Up and Goodbye
Transcribe →Jellycats, Community Cliques, and Redefining Normality
May 2800:25:35Tap to summarizeMemorial Day Plans, Jellycat Shopping, and the GLP-1 Cultural DebateJoy and Claire catch up over Memorial Day weekend, sharing family activities in Moab, recurring McDonald’s order mishaps, an e-bike picnic, paddleboarding plans, and a quick Arizona trip for a friend’s daughter’s high school graduation. They discuss the cliquey dynamics of making friends in a Utah town with a strong LDS subculture plus humorous travel stories including a seatmate chewing tobacco on a plane. A highlight is Scott’s Chicago shopping spree at a Jellycat store, buying a sold-out grumpy turtle for Miles. They then address Instagram responses about GLP-1 medications, emphasizing benefits for metabolic health while criticizing cultural trends toward extreme weight loss, unsafe normalization, marketing, and stigma. They end with favorite products: Theraface red-light mask, ILIA makeup, and the Intake nose opener.00:00 Memorial Day Catchup00:34 Makeup At 7 AM01:05 McDonalds Order Chaos03:02 Park Picnic And Paddleboard03:40 Arizona Graduation Trip05:46 Hibachi And Choir Memories08:29 Mormon Town Culture Shock10:52 Making Friends In Moab14:02 Jellycat Store Adventure20:59 Library Pets And Dog Tales23:21 Brandon Phone Jump Scares24:19 Gross Plane Seatmate Story25:47 Travel Brings Out Weirdness28:26 Short Person Overhead Bag Hack29:21 GLP-1 Nuance Not Judgment33:51 Culture Shift Toward Waif Era38:27 Health First Not Weight Loss40:17 Marketing Profits and Safety Concerns44:27 Vitamins Malnutrition and Hair Loss45:57 Favorite Products and Wrap Up
Transcribe →Lenet Rivas on Building Wealth
May 2100:27:38Tap to summarizeBlue Otter Financial Planning: Joy and Claire welcome back Lenet Rivas to discuss her new business, Blue Otter Financial Planning, launched after a layoff and inspired by conversations at a Surf with Amigas retreat. Lenet shares her background in financial aid at Emory, then Fidelity and investment management, and explains leaving product- and target-driven models to offer flat-fee planning for people—especially women—who don’t meet typical $500K asset minimums. They discuss consolidating scattered old employer 401(k)s into an IRA, aligning investments with risk tolerance and time horizon, and how target-date funds often default people into mismatched allocations; Joy describes gaining confidence, discovering a pension, and improving results after adjusting investments. The episode also covers money shame, patriarchy in finance, spending vs. saving mindset, and practical questions to ask parents about estate plans, accounts, and wills.00:00 Meet Lenet and Blue Otter01:19 From Taxes to Entrepreneurship04:15 The Retreat Seed and Layoff Leap06:51 Traveling While Building the Plan09:40 Who Blue Otter Serves13:33 Joy’s Account Consolidation Win15:28 Money Fear and the KFC Analogy22:01 Fixing Default 401k Investments27:05 Target Date Funds vs ETFs28:22 Confidence to Manage Your 401k29:13 Fix Your 401k Mix29:42 Shame And Money Talk31:28 Beating The Patriarchy33:20 From Saving To Spending36:16 Facing The Real Numbers40:37 Family Money Planning42:26 Questions For Parents47:39 How To Work Together49:50 Why Blue Otter52:18 Coffee Cart Dreams53:58 Where To Find Lenet54:22 Final Wrap And Goodbye
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