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Older & Wilder
Hosted by GGW Media · EN
Funny, honest, easy to listen to - we are often described as, "like listening to your best friends have a conversation at dinner."
This is Joy and Claire is an evolution of the weekly podcast Girls Gone WOD, which we created back in June 2013. Since then we have released over 400 weekly episodes and bonus features, and created an amazing community of supportive listeners around the world.
We are so excited to bring years of podcasting experience to this new project, with honesty, humor, and insights on everything from mental health, wellness, marriage, and parenting, to all the other random things that you’d talk to your friends about. Subscribe now and join the conversation!
www.joyandclaire.com
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Turn In & Travel Plans
1w ago00:22:47Tap to summarizeMother’s Day on the Green River, Moab Race Meetup, and Puppy Turn-In UpdatesJoy and Claire chat about early wake-ups, airline announcements, and pilot “too much detail” stories. They share Mother’s Day plans to float the Green River “Daily” near Moab and discuss refining their rafting boat packing system. From their Peru group chat, they float the idea of an unofficial Moab meet-up around a trail race weekend (15K, half, marathon, 50K) and advise booking hotels over pricey Airbnbs, noting the April 24, 2027 date. They discuss nostalgia for No Doubt, a gory dark-comedy film “Send Help” starring Rachel McAdams and directed by Sam Raimi, and Joy finishing the climbing docuseries “The Dark Wizard.” Joy previews Lilas' upcoming CCI puppy turn-in, talks puppy-raising realities and grief, answers Q&A on Mind Pump, finding a workplace mentor, and dog toy recommendations for strong chewers.00:00 Podcast Welcome00:47 Pilot Oversharing Stories03:04 Listening In Flight03:49 Flight Tracking Anxiety05:01 Pentagon Twin Day06:16 Mothers Day Float Plan08:30 Rafting Gear Systems10:14 Moab Race Meetup Idea13:09 Where To Stay In Moab15:19 No Doubt Nostalgia17:24 Send Help Movie Review19:40 Dark Wizard Doc Update21:21 Climbing Doc Obsession23:18 Leila Turn In Emotions26:30 Service Dog Reality Check28:20 Haynes Toy Chase Antics30:46 Puppy Raising Community32:17 Mind Pump Bros Take34:55 Finding Work Mentors39:12 Toys For Strong Chewers44:17 Moab Meetup And Wrap
Transcribe →What We're Watching & Reading
2w ago00:22:46Tap to summarizeSocial Media Breaks, Peru Reset, and What We’re Watching & ReadingClaire and Joy open with Arrested Development jokes and then discuss how meme culture and news consumption feel bleak, leading Joy to describe a mental-health-improving Peru “hard reset” of staying off social media, avoiding push notifications, and getting news from traditional outlets instead. They reflect on feeling helpless about Supreme Court decisions and on social media outrage/cancel culture, citing “Therapy Jeff” and mentioning Mel Robbins. Claire shares family updates, including Evie’s Beauty and the Beast dance recital and Miles’ extra energy now that he’s between sports, plus a chat about slow unpacking and liking Away luggage. They recommend HBO’s climbing docuseries “The Dark Wizard” about Dean Potter, discuss Lena Dunham’s memoir and Girls, and Claire lists recent fiction reads while panning The Comfort Crisis, before plugging their Instagram, TikTok, and email.00:00 Welcome and Hop Ons00:22 Arrested Development Quotes01:39 Meme Days Check In02:21 Social Media Detox03:54 Supreme Court Spiral06:47 Peru Airplane Mode08:16 Therapy Influencer Drama11:28 Dance Recital Chaos15:28 Post Trip Unpacking17:44 Away Luggage and Points19:37 Dark Wizard Docuseries22:20 Climbing Subculture World23:51 Climbing Brotherhood24:20 Rivalry and Territorialism25:24 Dean vs Alex Debate26:02 El Cap Ethics27:30 Watching Free Solo29:11 Series Recommendation29:32 Lena Dunham Memoir33:15 Girls Fame Fallout37:25 Fiction Book Picks39:20 Comfort Crisis Rant42:37 More Reads and Wrap43:15 Social Media Goodbye
Transcribe →Post-Peru Reflections
3w ago00:21:07Tap to summarizePeru Post-Trip Blues, Surf Retreat Highlights, and Planning Japan 2028Joy and Claire recap travel and post-trip depression after Peru, including Claire extending her trip for a Peru surf retreat in Chiama with Surf with Amigas, riding unusually long left waves, visiting archaeological sites, and seeing the preserved “Lady of Cao.” They describe a stressful Cusco-to-Lima flight delay due to the plane being too heavy, resulting in many bags left behind, and praise guide Leo for getting everyone’s luggage recovered before flights home. They discuss planning a Go Ahead Tours Japan trip for May 2028, outline the “Japan for Women” itinerary, and how they’ll share signup info. Back home, Joy starts a new job at Headspace as director of therapy, Scott also gets promoted, and they plan to puppy-raise again by taking over a six-month-old yellow lab named McCoy after turning in Lilas.03:15 Not Saving Memories03:47 Trip Photos Exception04:42 Peru Travel Day06:37 Surf Retreat Highlights07:31 Peru History Shock08:21 Pisco Sour Hangover11:24 Lost Luggage Drama15:33 Post Trip Blues18:05 Japan 2028 Tease20:50 Back to Work Updates22:13 Puppy Raising Again23:46 Meet McCoy24:25 Collar Scholars Week26:10 Dogs Want Dinner26:41 Summer Schedule Chaos28:36 Trips And Concerts29:21 Dean Potter Doc33:58 Van Life Reality Check36:15 Gym Pricing Rant40:22 Garage Gym Plans41:35 Wrap Up And Plugs
Transcribe →Live From Peru!
Apr 2300:28:37Tap to summarizeOlder and Wilder Live in Peru: Sacred Valley Reflections, Machu Picchu Magic, and Leo’s Tour-Guide LegendsJoy and Claire record a live “Older and Wilder” episode reflecting on how group travel with EF Go Ahead Tours removes the stress of planning and creates immersive cultural experiences. Travelers share motivations (community, FOMO, bucket-list Machu Picchu) and favorite moments: Machu Picchu, Incan archaeological sites, a community lunch and ceremony, women’s weaving cooperative, cooking class, churros in Lima, cathedral art, bus rides on narrow roads, and an ’80s dance party/karaoke on the train. Guide Leo explains his path to tour directing, love of sharing Peru, and encourages visitors to explore beyond Machu Picchu, including food, Arequipa, Nasca lines, and the Amazon.00:00 Live From Peru01:04 Sacred Valley Vibes02:25 Unplugging From News04:34 Why Peru Happened05:30 No Planning Needed06:54 Trip Community Magic09:13 Passing The Mic10:42 Traveler Stories Begin12:52 Train Karaoke Memories19:12 Big Picture Takeaways22:02 Churros And Bus Skills25:18 Cooking Class Chaos26:40 Machu Picchu Highlights27:27 Weaving Cooperative Magic28:36 FOMO And Friendship30:06 Why Group Trips Matter31:30 Cusco Culture Layers32:42 Unrepeatable Travel Moments34:57 Dogs Dances And Daily Life37:05 Cat Shoutouts And Cathedrals38:44 Pride And Shared Culture42:44 Thanking Leo The Guide46:12 Leo Origin Story51:58 Leo Moments And Next Trips55:48 Japan Plans And Farewell
Transcribe →Off the Grid
Apr 900:21:01Tap to summarizeEaster Morning, River-Trip Hypothermia, and Peru Prep! Joy and Claire trade stories about kids and childhood Easter traditions like egg hunts, church, and family meals. Claire recounts a spring-break rafting trip on Utah’s Upper San Juan River including visiting cliff-dwelling sites, a layover day, and a sudden thunderstorm. They discuss upcoming travel to Peru, interest in a future Japan trip, Joy’s promotion, and tips for altitude prep. 02:35 Kids Lovies and Stuffy Names03:24 Childhood Easter Traditions04:26 Easter Outfits and Memories06:42 Holiday Meals and Spring Vibes07:50 Weird Headlines and Politics09:01 Rockies Day and Dairy Queen Secret10:23 Party Adults and Breaking Rules13:46 Upper San Juan River Trip Setup15:29 Storm Rapid and Hypothermia Scare21:28 Off the Grid and Camp Food22:23 Camp Meals Done Right23:06 Savory Smores Hack23:57 Kids Camp Freedom25:11 Walkie Talkie Pro Tip25:55 Buying A Raft Rig29:43 Rigging Ammo Can Chaos31:43 Leaky Boat And Kayak Story33:07 Peru Trip Schedule33:55 JT Ashes And Goodbyes35:07 Summer Travel Sprint37:58 Raft Guide Reunion39:46 Altitude Sickness Prep41:23 Wrap Up And Where To Find Us
Transcribe →Past & Present Adventures
Apr 200:25:02Tap to summarizeHouse-Sitting in Arizona, Tracking Teens, and Planning a Japan TripJoy and Claire chat about pet and house-sitting. Joy describes a nostalgic “time warp” weekend with her friend’s nearly-18-year-old daughter, running into a high school friend’s younger sister, and hanging at the mall. They discuss modern teen tracking tools (Life360, car cameras) and balancing safety with independence, plus kids’ self-navigation skills. In Q&A, they cover folding fitted sheets, cleaning quirks, favorite clothing items, sweet vs savory brunch, and announce a Japan group trip for May 2027. Joy also shares updated thyroid/antibody management, sleep needs, views on workout programs, and recurring podcast lore like “he vapes now.”01:45 Moab Sitter Plug04:30 Girls Weekend Time Warp08:05 Mall Nostalgia09:32 Tracking Kids Debate13:16 Freedom Versus Safety17:11 Bus Schedules Growing Up17:57 Q and A Kickoff18:08 Fitted Sheet Fails20:11 Cleaning Quirks Confessions22:01 Favorite Clothing Picks26:03 Outfit Repeats Debate27:00 Beauty Myths That Stick27:50 Brunch Sweet Or Savory28:34 Japan Trip Details30:55 Thyroid Antibodies Update35:58 Sleep In Your Forties38:12 Weightlifting Programs Review40:20 He Vapes Now Lore43:18 Love Languages Ranked46:03 Rapid Fire Favorites46:50 Name Change Thoughts48:31 Wrap Up And Japan Feedback
Transcribe →We Love You, JT
Mar 2600:25:15Tap to summarizeSaying Goodbye to JT and Finding Support in GriefJoy and Claire discuss travel concerns about altitude sickness for an upcoming Peru trip and past experiences with motion sickness and sleep. The conversation shifts to Joy’s dog JT, who was 14, and the difficult decision to schedule in-home euthanasia after noticing declining mobility. Joy describes the hospice vet process, the peaceful passing, how their other dogs reacted, and choosing private cremation with plans to honor him in Westcliff. They discuss the intensity of pet grief, support from friends, work boundaries, pet loss groups, and the community’s messages and donations to Canine Companions in JT’s name.Pet Loss Grief Explained03:57 Peru Altitude Worries06:50 Seasickness and Dramamine08:26 Sleep Then and Now11:23 Dog Blanket Antics12:37 Saying Goodbye to JT13:33 Senior Dog Decline Signs18:00 Calling Hospice Vet21:54 Making the Hard Choice24:58 Facing the Decline26:00 No Judgment Decisions28:47 Quality of Life Tools32:53 Saying Goodbye at Home35:25 Support and Work Boundaries39:25 Why Pet Grief Hits Hard40:55 Memorial Plans and Support Groups43:41 Laughing Through the Pain46:58 Community Thanks and Closing
Transcribe →Navigating Healthcare, Travel, and Choices: A Conversation with Emily Scott
Mar 1900:55:13Tap to summarizeTwo Dusty Travelers: COVID Front Lines, L&D Mistrust, and Choosing a Childfree LifeJoy and Claire hosts Emily Scott (Two Dusty Travelers), an RN known for caring for the first diagnosed hospitalized COVID patient in the U.S., to discuss how her platform evolved beyond “the COVID lady” and how politics and misinformation have fueled distrust in healthcare. Emily, now a labor and delivery nurse with a background in peace studies and global health work in East Africa, describes rising patient suspicion since 2020, including refusal of newborn hepatitis B vaccination, vitamin K, and other standard care, and notes anti-vax sentiment even among some nurses. They discuss the difficulty of changing minds at scale versus through long one-on-one conversations, the pressures and taboos around being childfree by choice and parental regret, and gaps in pain management for IUD insertion. Emily shares hope as sustained effort plus balance, and highlights Tanzania as a favorite destination, inviting interest in her group trips and naming Namibia as a future goal.02:37 Politics and Online Unfollows03:54 From Global Health to L&D05:10 Mistrust in Healthcare Now06:43 Newborn Shots and Misinformation08:07 Wild Hospital Stories12:06 Anti Vax Nurses and Vaccine Clinics13:55 Bridging the Gap with Skeptics16:41 Childfree by Choice Conversation25:09 Pressure, Regret, and Nuance28:51 Sliding Doors and What Ifs33:19 Childfree Without Shame33:44 TikTok Narratives and Stigma34:46 Pop Culture and TV Time35:43 Why Romance Feels Safe37:49 Spicy Talk and Sex Ed Gaps38:50 IUD Pain Control Reality44:17 Labor Stories and Trusting Bodies45:23 Home Birth vs Hospital Birth49:21 Hope and Fighting Burnout54:27 East Africa Travel Plans57:05 Wrap Up and Where to Find Us
Transcribe →Life Updates: Heat, Mindfulness, and Travel Plans
Mar 1200:24:19Tap to summarizeMoab Heat, Busy Spring Travel, Mindfulness, and Protein-Obsessed Expo WestJoy and Claire catch up on Moab’s early heat, a recent snowstorm, and packed spring schedules including Arizona, Peru, river trips, and work travel. Claire recaps attending Expo West in Anaheim, meeting David Fitzpatrick at Disneyland for ice cream, and a stressful return trip involving a sprinting airport connection and a tiny flight back to Moab. They pivot to a Q&A on favorite times of day and desserts, then discuss goals for the year. They reflect on concussion/whiplash recovery, long-term “physical 401k” health, shifting body-image perspectives, and concerns about normalizing extreme thinness. They preview upcoming episodes on financial planning, estate planning, and being childless by choice, and close with Expo West trends like protein/creatine in everything, cottage-cheese ice cream, fiber products, and skepticism about AG1 in favor of comprehensive multivitamins.00:00 Moab Heat Check01:14 Snow Days and Busy March02:47 Expo West and Disneyland Ice Cream03:55 Small Airports and Sprinting Connections06:32 Sweaty Travel and Heat Rants08:48 Q and A Kickoff Favorites09:47 Dogs Dinner Witching Hour12:38 Goals Workouts and Mountain Biking15:28 Mindfulness and Travel Anxiety18:42 What Mindfulness Really Is21:08 Why Worry Persists22:14 Mindfulness Practice Tools23:17 Concussion Recovery Lessons25:13 Physical Health Bank26:30 Training Frustrations Mindset29:58 Body Image Aging Shift31:21 Ozempic Culture Concerns33:08 Celebrity Health Discourse38:31 Upcoming Money Episodes40:45 Expo West Supplement Hype42:38 AG1 vs Real Multivitamins47:02 Eat Real Food Wrap47:44 Final Sign Off
Transcribe →March Milestones
Mar 500:22:01Tap to summarizeMarch Check-In: Lifties, Social Media Burnout, Dog Hair Hacks, Moab’s Ageless Party Scene & Love Is Blind OhioJoy and Claire celebrate reaching March! They discuss stepping back from social media—especially TikTok—due to overwhelming news cycles, algorithm/terms concerns, and the unnatural pressure to broadcast constant reactions, preferring fact-based sources and recommending Pantsuit Politics’ State of the Union recap. The conversation shifts to practical home life: kids’ laundry-folding boards, constant vacuuming with multiple dogs, Roombas, grooming and shedding tips, and dental care products. Claire describes Moab’s intergenerational, highly active culture after a themed birthday dance party, then Joy gives a spoiler-filled recap of the new Love Is Blind Ohio season, focusing on a disliked contestant and doubts most couples will last.00:00 Hello March00:16 Liftie Horror Stories01:19 Why Skiers Complain03:19 Bad Snow Season Update04:07 Quitting TikTok for Now06:49 Social Media Reaction Spiral09:56 Mixed Messaging and Gaslighting11:24 Watching the State of the Union14:43 Laundry Folding Boards16:23 Dog Hair and Vacuum Life17:04 Feeling Bad for the Roomba19:48 De-Shedding Dog Wash Tips21:44 Dog Bathing Tips22:40 Managing Fur Everywhere24:01 Laundry Hair Hacks25:50 Dental Care Routine26:25 Moab Age Vibes32:58 Dance Party DJ Fails33:46 Love Is Blind Recap40:51 Why We Watch Trainwreck TV43:16 Wrap Up And Where To Find Us
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