Once We Filled German Niches with Flula Borg | Episode 24

Summary

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Once We Were Spacemen | Episode 24

"Once We Filled German Niches with Flula Borg"

Hosts: Nathan Fillion & Alan Tudyk
Guest: Flula Borg
Release Date: April 22, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this vibrant, winding episode, Nathan Fillion and Alan Tudyk invite the multi-talented German entertainer Flula Borg for a deep-dive into his unique career trajectory, German cultural quirks, the art of nicheness, and the joys of playing chaos agents both on screen and off. Expect humor, anecdotes from across Hollywood and beyond, quirky family traditions, lightning questions with not-so-lightning answers, and honest talk about fame, fitness, and making your own luck.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Art of the Niche (03:55 – 07:43)

• Flula’s Unique Career Path:
  • Flula is known for carving a “niche” out of unexpected, often accidental opportunities—what Nathan dubs “filling German niches.”
  • Flula’s transition from German shoe-slap dancing (“schuplattler”) to accidental hype man and then to U.S. entertainment was largely unplanned.
    • “I did not see the banana peel. I fell on it, slipped through the open door and then someone dumped yogurt into my mouth as I was unconscious. And that yogurt was employment in Los Angeles.” — Flula (09:52)
• Representation and National Pride:
  • Proudly represents Erlangen, a small German town—“the western portion of Erlangen... west of the Marcus Kirche.” — Flula (04:34)
  • Humble about recognition at home; more prized for personal memorabilia than celebrity status. (06:53)

2. Serendipity of Showbiz (08:04 – 13:16)

• From Techno to Hollywood:
  • Flula was a techno DJ who won a Scion-sponsored “hype man” contest without understanding what a hype man does (09:04–09:27).
  • Emphasizes embracing accidents, saying almost every creative path is accidental in hindsight (10:13).
• Mentors & Influences:
  • Counts David Hasselhoff and Falco as distant “mentors” or “muses,” despite neither knowing him personally (13:16–13:45).

3. Found Family: Stories from Set and Beyond (14:31 – 22:28)

• Connections with Nathan and Alan:
  • Meeting Flula on "Suicide Squad" and recurring together on "The Rookie," where Flula plays Skiptracer Randy—a character who constantly changes jobs (14:34–15:09).
  • Conversation on performing German characters in Hollywood and the inevitable overlap with Alan’s own career: “You’ve killed a revenue stream for me” (21:39).
• Animated Connections:
  • All three have worked on "Ralph Breaks the Internet," though didn’t record together (16:04–16:24).

4. Physical Transformation & Typecasting (26:10 – 29:51)

• Getting Ripped for Roles:
  • Flula’s decision to become “jacked” for "Suicide Squad"—committing to fitness with trainer Paolo Maschiti:
    • “You became an action hero... It’s like you’re carved out of marble.” — Nathan (27:30)
  • Fitness opened up more villain roles, including in "My Spy: Eternal City" (28:33–29:14).
• Comedy vs. Drama:
  • Flula played a serious, historical role in the biopic "Bonhoeffer," which required him to “rein in the maniacal brain farts” for subtlety (29:24–30:19).
    • “My brain is a stable of horses. Sometimes I bring out the silly pony…and sometimes there's a little bit of a Seabiscuit.” — Flula (30:00)

5. Unusual Traditions & Family Backstories (17:27 – 19:56, 52:30 – 54:52)

• Frasierween:
  • The Borg family tradition: a Frasier-themed costume party not tied to any holiday.
    • "Everyone dresses up as a character or an inanimate object from the television show Frasier." — Flula (18:15)
  • “There can be only one [Frasier].” (18:51)
• Fillion’s Easter Bunny Socks:
  • Nathan shares his family’s Easter tradition: the Easter Bunny hides not just candy, but socks and underwear for the kids (52:42–54:52).

6. Internet Presence, Skits, & Unexpected Fame (40:00 – 44:53)

• YouTube and Social Media:
  • Noted for creative gym sketches with Paolo and cleaning lady Yolanda (40:00–42:23).
    • “She is the Robert De Niro of Nicaraguan origins cleaning lady actress.” — Flula (41:02)
  • DJ mixes in rowboats, mother-involved rap covers, and viral videos brought unexpected internet stardom (43:19–43:48).
• International Recognition:
  • “When I am in Germany, I get recognized as skip tracer Randy more than anything that I do.” — Flula (44:41)

7. Working on ‘The Rookie’ & Creative Play (57:01 – 59:45)

• Improvisation & Collaboration:
  • Nathan praises Flula’s improvisational freedom; many improvised lines make the final cut (58:15–58:57).
    • “No two takes are ever the same... you always throw in a little something different at the end.” — Nathan
• On Being a “Chaos Agent”:
  • Flula is beloved on set for bringing “chaos” in the best way, which both cast and crew enjoy immensely (59:12–59:45).

8. Lightning Round: Absurdist Choices (35:50 – 39:08)

• Nathan leads Flula through a “Lightning Round," but Flula overanalyzes each question, turning quick answers into playful, surreal digressions:
  • Folding vs. ironing? “Zero of the above. Hang.” — Flula (36:24)
  • Roller coaster or carousel? “Roller coaster.” (36:46)
  • Sharks or bears? “You gotta go nado all the way, baby.” (36:58)
  • Cats or dogs? “For me to befriend the animal... oh, and sorry, what’s happening, Alan?” (37:29)
  • Chicken or beef? “I’m on a roll. And I would just eat a little bit of tuna.” (38:59)

9. Personal Revelations & ‘Getting to Know You’ (48:09 – 52:28)

• Flula’s Snack Addiction:
  • Former obsession with Trader Joe’s chocolate-covered peanut butter pretzel bites and Vanilla Jojo’s (48:25–48:59).
• Alan’s “Sober” Hack:
  • Looks up “alcoholism” on stock photo sites—bad acting kills any desire to drink while down (49:27–52:07).

10. Reflections on Success & Joy (62:27 – 64:01)

• “Making it”:
  • Winning the Scion hype-man contest and a viral YouTube video were pivotal moments:
    • “It was like a signal for me... to continue to make fun things and stick around.” — Flula (62:33)
• On Enjoyment:
  • “I like to make things that are fun and that other people find also fun. And that’s the whole point.” — Flula (64:01)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Flula on accidental success:
  “It's like if someone said, give me your Venmo and I was like, which is not even an address, but then they still give Venmo to this non existent address. That's basically my career.” (63:29)
• On family traditions:
  “A mythical rabbit delivers you undergarments.” — Flula commenting on Nathan’s Easter bunny story (54:48)
• On working with friends:
  “The Flula days are always fun days.” — Nathan (59:27)
• On comedy vs drama:
  “It doesn't work if you're not there. Then I'm just an insane man that everyone doesn't enjoy.” — Flula (57:27)
• On embracing weirdness:
  “I was kind of the main bad guy of his. Well, yes, yes, I was his main. Like I don't like you very much. I also don't like you. Let's bang bang, right?” (28:49)
• On improvising on set:
  “Something you do always makes it to the air.” — Nathan to Flula on his improv (58:17)

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• 03:55 – Discussion of nicheness and German representation
• 09:04 – Winning the Scion hype man contest
• 13:16 – Influences: David Hasselhoff and Falco
• 14:34 – The Rookie, Suicide Squad, and recurring Hollywood connections
• 21:39 – Casting, typecasting, and Alan's German character legacy
• 26:10 – Getting jacked for Suicide Squad
• 35:50 – Lightning Round (hilariously slow)
• 40:00 – Flula’s social media sketches: Paolo and Yolanda
• 44:41 – Fame in Germany as Skiptracer Randy
• 52:42 – Nathan’s Easter bunny and socks story
• 57:01 – Discussing improvisational freedom on The Rookie
• 62:33 – Flula's reflections on "making it"
• 64:01 – Philosophy of fun, fulfillment, and creative joy

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Notable Moments of Humor and Authenticity

• Alan’s “sober” trick:
  Alan’s confession that he avoids drinking when sad by browsing terrible stock photos of “alcoholics” (49:27–52:07).
• Frasierween:
  The annual, non-specific date when everyone dresses up as some obscure character or concept from “Frasier” (18:15–19:56).
• Fanny pack pride:
  “I am a little bit probably too proud of my fanny packs.” — Flula (07:45)
• Behind-the-scenes costuming chaos:
  "It was like the Smurfs had captured Gaugamel, and they're just now cleaning him up." — Flula (35:26)

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Takeaways

• Career success can stem from happy accidents and embracing uniqueness.
• Being the “chaos agent” is a gift, on set and in life.
• Honor the family quirks and traditions—they make the best stories.
• Community, collaboration, and joy fuel creativity – whether on “The Rookie,” “Suicide Squad,” or YouTube.

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Final Thought

Flula’s joyful puzzlement at his own trajectory, Alan’s and Nathan’s warm camaraderie, and the delightful digressions make this an episode about the randomness of the creative journey: “There’s lots of terrible things. So why not just make something fun?”

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Listen to "Once We Were Spacemen" for more behind-the-scenes chaos, camaraderie, and creativity.

Transcript

[Flula Borg]

A quick question that everyone knows that listens to the space show. Did you two meet on the television show Lightning Bug?

[Alan Tudyk]

It was called Firefly. Oh.

[Flula Borg]

In Germany, they. Okay.

[Alan Tudyk]

Once We Were Spacemen. Spacemen. I tend to play weird people. Usually aliens and robots and things that don't have romance.

[Nathan Fillion]

I once didn't get a job where they were looking for a Nathan Fillion type. Once we were spacemen.

[Alan Tudyk]

Once we were Spacemen. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Once We Were Spacemen. Because at one time we were spacemen and there hasn't actually been a time since that time that once we were that thing, that we have not been that thing. We are still spacemen. But We Are Still Spacemen is a crappier title.

[Flula Borg]

That's it.

[Nathan Fillion]

That was. It got a little esoteric in there.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah, it got in it. Yeah.

[Nathan Fillion]

I was trying to track the logic.

[Alan Tudyk]

I think the ending where I just say. And that's. It sort of undercuts the grandiosity. Gosity.

[Nathan Fillion]

You have to state the obvious. It's probably not obvious.

[Alan Tudyk]

Okay, well, I'll work on it. I'll keep working.

[Nathan Fillion]

This is the highlight of my day. Ladies and gentlemen, Alan Tudyk. We have today a lovely guest, Mr. Falula Borg. Fula.

[Flula Borg]

Welcome. Thank you. And what. What a rousing and wonderful introduction. Alan Tudyk. Is it the same every episode?

[Alan Tudyk]

No, never. Never the same. Shockingly.

[Flula Borg]

Oh, like a snowflake.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yes, it is. It's the snowflake of the podcast.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yes, but like a snowflake in a. In a heavily populated city, so it's the kind you don't want on your tongue.

[Nathan Fillion]

Lula, you are one of the people that I, I've. I, I know that I work with, that I. That I also hang out with outside of school. And not long ago I just saw you. We did a. Alan, you weren't available. We did like a dinner party, weird kind of murder, spooky thing called the Willows.

[Alan Tudyk]

You killed someone together.

[Nathan Fillion]

Of course. As one does. But what I didn't realize was because that was one of my little birthday celebration things, instead of throwing a party, I did this little event with a couple of people. Oh, cool. Came along. But it was the day after my birthday. Allan, you're a March baby. You were March 22nd.

[Alan Tudyk]

I feel like I was available. Keep talking.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah, you were a March baby. I was a March baby. 27th. We went on the 28th, which happens to be Flula's birthday.

[Alan Tudyk]

Oh, no way.

[Flula Borg]

Yes. I told no one. That is my way. I enjoy A little secretive birthday. Last year, I went to my friend Megan's birthday party on my birthday. It's a. It's a weird little prank I pull on myself. So.

[Nathan Fillion]

Secret birthday.

[Alan Tudyk]

Do you watch them unwrap their gifts with jealousy in your heart?

[Flula Borg]

No, I love it. It's. It's a joy that no one knows. It's like if you could walk around nude and no one could see your downstairs. That's kind of what this is like.

[Nathan Fillion]

Now, here's the thing, though. But don't. Are you concerned at all about when people find out it's your birthday and went, I was with him. I was with him on his birthday and I didn't know. And you caused that kind of emotional response?

[Flula Borg]

Well, no. Normally I'm shocked that you knew this, because I just. I like it if no one ever knows. It's like, you know, you open a can of beans, you put it right in the middle of the hallway of your dormitory and just see what happens.

[Nathan Fillion]

I think it was a reminder on my phone that I clearly ignored on the day of and looked back through it and went. Because clearly I knew at one point,

[Alan Tudyk]

why would you put the beans. I did a different kind of school. Great.

[Flula Borg]

Exactly. Listen, but this is the. Alan, this is the reaction, the desired reaction of seeing the Pintosh. Just. Yeah, that's all I want.

[Nathan Fillion]

Now, I've been looking forward to this podcast because I think it's fair to say you fill a narrow niche, yet at the same time, you never stop working. It.

[Flula Borg]

Is the narrow. Is it even a niche? Just to assume the niche exists is kind.

[Nathan Fillion]

It's like when you make a puzzle and sometimes you're missing the last piece and you. Oh, no. This is more like if I made a puzzle and I was all finished and there's one more piece, and I go, huh, where would this go? I'm finished.

[Flula Borg]

Under the puzzle. You just slide it under and just hope no one notices the bump.

[Alan Tudyk]

I feel like it's more of a nationality. It is. It is. It's where you. You are. You're representing a certain section of the globe.

[Flula Borg]

Well, yes, Alan, it's the. It's the western portion of Erlangen, which is the. In the southern part of Franconia, which is in northern Bath area. And I will proudly represent everything west of the Marcus Kirche. So. Yes, you're correct.

[Alan Tudyk]

Thank God. Somebody needed to take that place.

[Flula Borg]

Listen. Yes, there's no elected representatives. I elected myself. And also, I shall tell you, I was once voted the third sexiest north Bavarian male So I mean, was that

[Alan Tudyk]

when you're doing that slap dancing with your feet in the slap?

[Flula Borg]

Tap, tap, tap, pat. Thank you. Called schupplatla. Thank you for just absolutely offending everyone.

[Alan Tudyk]

Sorry, sorry.

[Flula Borg]

No, it's fine. That was actually what I did in celebration. So they put me on a tour with a hype man and. And then I began shoe platlering more actively as a paid vocation.

[Alan Tudyk]

I've seen this, that my wife's a choreographer, so I have watched a lot of dance and I have watched this and I've seen it where the men. There's women involved, sometimes only men, and sometimes there's women and it's a couple's dance and the man pushes the skirt up, swats their skirt, almost like, look here.

[Flula Borg]

Oh, that's her knickers. Yes, that's the. Watch out, the mosquitoes have arrived. Usually what happens is the second half of the dance is also in coordination with kind of dusk, you know, and that's when the skeetos come. And so they incorporated this into the dance.

[Nathan Fillion]

Keeps the ticks off.

[Flula Borg]

Exactly.

[Alan Tudyk]

Because all the blood's already gone.

[Flula Borg]

Yes. Lyme disease is an issue and we're trying to prevent it one dancing move at a time. So.

[Alan Tudyk]

Wow, that's incredible.

[Nathan Fillion]

Lula, you were born in Germany. Erlangen.

[Flula Borg]

Thank you. Yes. Erlangen. Yes.

[Alan Tudyk]

Erlangen.

[Nathan Fillion]

Erlangen. Erlangen. Do they miss you?

[Flula Borg]

Well, certain sections, yes. That would be the section where my parents live. I think most people have a confusion around what it is that I'm doing, why I am here, what occurred, which also, hey, guess what? I share this confusion as Nathan, you do too. The niche doesn't exist. Somehow. I have received employment. I don't really deserve it. I'm just grateful for calories and hangouts.

[Nathan Fillion]

When you go back to your hometown, is there a statue of you in the town square? Are you received? Welcome. Oh, he's come back to us. What is the reaction of your home folk?

[Flula Borg]

You are referencing the way the city of Chicago reacts to the 1991 champion Chicago Bulls upon arriving at O'. Hare. That is not what occurs when I arrive. It's literally just the water fountains spray in the same and normal direction as before. And the only statue that exists is the very small one I made out of clay in the eighth grade that now resides at my parents living room.

[Nathan Fillion]

Do they know of Flula? Do they? You're not the hometown boy. Done well, I mean, you've accomplished so much. You have like a IMDb page. As long as my arm.

[Flula Borg]

Well, I have not seen your arm recently. And I would say it's definitely longer than this immidibby page. And you know, I like. As I like to sneak into a birthday party that was not my own, I like to sneak into my town, which is also not my own. I don't own much other than this t shirt and 28 fanny packs.

[Nathan Fillion]

That's true. You do have a lot of fanny packs.

[Flula Borg]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That is.

[Nathan Fillion]

You do have a lot of fanny packs.

[Flula Borg]

Germans. You know, I've been taught don't get too proud. But I am. I am a little bit probably too proud of my fanny packs.

[Alan Tudyk]

Why wouldn't you be with a fanny like that? And I'm just. I'm thinking back to your work on Suicide Squad. Sorry, I don't want to jump into. Jump all the way to there.

[Flula Borg]

Oh, my fanny. Well, yes. James Gunn confirmed I had no butt pads in this.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah, that was a big yes.

[Flula Borg]

100 pure double F fluid of Anna. Yes.

[Nathan Fillion]

Now, when you decided, I'm going to be in the entertainment industry, I'm going to go entertain people. And you. And you fled from your hometown. Was there a parental reaction? What did your family and your friends think when they discovered you? Was this your first vocation? Did you bounce from something else to this? Yeah.

[Flula Borg]

Thank you for saying I fled, which is true. I did. I was prior to this a techno dj. And so I would DJ techno. And what occurred was I accidentally won a hype man contest sponsored by Scion. There's clips online if you want to. If this is ever a video, we can show those. But yes. So I accidentally won this. And then that was a little note to me that I wrote to myself. But wasn't a note. It was me winning this thing that maybe Flula, you should come to Los Angeles and try to receive more jobs somehow.

[Alan Tudyk]

How can I ask what is a hype man? I thought a hype man stood behind the guy who's doing the thing.

[Flula Borg]

Alan. Exactly. So I also did not know what is a hype man. And this is why I won. I did not understand what was going on. And this was, you know, like sometimes a perfect idiot is like the greatest man to cross a 10 lane highway because he doesn't know what's occurring at all. And that's what that was.

[Alan Tudyk]

10 lane. And so. Okay, and so you came west.

[Flula Borg]

Yes, I flow in that direction. Yes. I could have gone the other way. Just would have been significantly longer and I would have touchdown in Taipei.

[Nathan Fillion]

The door to opportunity Creaked open by accident. You saw some light and you said I'm going to just go for that. There was a sliver of an opportunity and you grabbed it and changed everything. Is that what I'm gleaning?

[Flula Borg]

I did not see the banana peel. I fell on it, slipped through the open door and then someone dumped yogurt into my mouth as I was unconscious. And that yogurt was employment in Los Angeles.

[Nathan Fillion]

So when someone says oh my gosh, like I want to do what you do, what advice do you have to give me? What could you possibly tell them? That path was so accidental.

[Flula Borg]

I think they are all accidental. Then if you want to do what I did, then begin as a shoe platler, as an 8 years old person, then befriend the man who DJs the polka music who teaches you how to then make techno music in a real way and then enter the Scion Hypeman contest in 2008 and accidentally win it.

[Nathan Fillion]

It's a piece of cake when you say it like that. It's.

[Flula Borg]

Yeah, time travel is involved other items. But yes, pretty, pretty straightforward as they say.

[Alan Tudyk]

Do you still dj? Do you still hyper DJ or whatever it is?

[Flula Borg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hyper dj. So I sometimes hype man. So after I won this I became a host of like a hip hop contests and also battles of the bands as everyone does. But I think we all DJ Alan, do you not just wake up sometimes and say hey, I would like to hear some brown noise at 500 MHz for the next 88 hours in my ears and you hit play.

[Alan Tudyk]

I've been really focusing on green noise lately. Brown noise. I have. I need to get into. I need to. I need to get into that. I'm just now getting into techno. I have to say I. I feel like I've missed that is something that Europeans have a fondness for. I come from originally from Texas and not, not there are many people in who listen to it in Texas. But I started off in the twang world growing up listening to what my parents were playing and it's taken me a long time to get to more electronic sounds.

[Flula Borg]

Got it. So you're now listening to techno.

[Alan Tudyk]

Alan, there's a band in. I don't know if it's considered techno. I think it is partly techno dance. There's a band in London called Chunky.

[Nathan Fillion]

Mermaid.

[Alan Tudyk]

Mermaid. Chunky. Do you know this band?

[Flula Borg]

They're called Mermaid Karma. Chunky.

[Alan Tudyk]

Just one word altogether. Mermaid. Chunky.

[Flula Borg]

I don't know. I will google this immediately after hanging up this Thump. I stumped the Hype Man.

[Alan Tudyk]

This is a new. I'm sorry, this is a new feature I want to add to our thing, Nathan, and it's a good time to bring this out. It is. Alan suggests one song, a podcast. What you listening to? Well, right now I'd like to tell you I'm listening to this great two female band called Mermaid Chunky. They're from London. And if you listen to one song, please listen to Chaperone. All right. That has been the first installment of

[Nathan Fillion]

what you listening to.

[Alan Tudyk]

What you listening to?

[Flula Borg]

I thought you were going to say the new segment in every episode was going to be Stump the Hype Man. And then you said if you've listened to one. If you listen to one song, I thought you were then gonna say you've listened to them all. So I'm glad you did not.

[Nathan Fillion]

No fool it. I'm always interested in the journey. So you. Perhaps if we were talking about a mentor, perhaps your polka DJ turned techno DJ on the front side once you slip through that metaphoric door we've been talking to. And now you're in Los Angeles. Did you have a mentor in Los Angeles?

[Flula Borg]

I had not one set I knew in a real way, I would say would be like a combination of David Hasselhoff and Falco. And so those would be my mentors that did not know me, would not respond to emails or letters. Falco passed away several, several decades ago, but his song Rakmi Amodeos, specifically the Salieri remix, really did touch me deep because it chronicles Mozart's life over a nice little rappy beat. And that was cool for me.

[Alan Tudyk]

And what part of David Hasselhoff were you, besides the hair, obviously.

[Flula Borg]

Obviously all regions here. He had a music section. In our music world of music, WOM was a very popular. Maybe is still a CD store. An album store in Germany. And he had his own section. And I was like, I don't know. That David Hesseloff is very good with singing. I'm not certain, but I know we love it. And so I could think, if he can do this in Germany, perhaps I can do this in America with my techno music about dirty kitchens and also clouds.

[Nathan Fillion]

He was the mentor. He didn't know you were his mentee. Correct.

[Flula Borg]

No one knew about the manatees. There was no sea life involved. It was just me kind of looking at him as an imagination person.

[Alan Tudyk]

You know, I had like a. Like a muse almost.

[Nathan Fillion]

Now we three are all connected through employment. We Flula. I met you on Suicide Squad and then you Came and did have been continuing to do. You have a character on a show called the Rookie that I am also on that. You come constantly. You play skip tracer Randy who continually changes his jobs all the time.

[Alan Tudyk]

Wait a second. I haven't seen you. Are you German? Are you German on the la.

[Flula Borg]

Oh, it's a very different character from as the person you're speaking to now. It's a totally different character.

[Alan Tudyk]

You're acting. You have an American accent.

[Flula Borg]

Oh, it was.

[Nathan Fillion]

No, he's still Flula. But in one episode we did hit him in the head and knock the German accent right out of him. And he had a bit of an

[Alan Tudyk]

identity crisis and so you can do an American accent.

[Flula Borg]

That's great. We can't reveal who did the ADR for that. Those scenes. But I don't, I don't remember even shooting those scenes. So it, I don't know what happened. Honestly. Nathan did the Men in Black Pennsylvania before those scene.

[Nathan Fillion]

Little, Little Bow.

[Alan Tudyk]

I, I've done. I, I, I don't. I want, I want to. I want to. Sorry for my interruption that you were, you were saying, Nathan, we're connected cuz we haven't actually worked together.

[Nathan Fillion]

Flu. That's not true.

[Alan Tudyk]

You.

[Nathan Fillion]

But we're both in Ralph Rex. The Internet.

[Alan Tudyk]

Oh, we just learned a little something.

[Flula Borg]

Yes. More.

[Alan Tudyk]

You know what? I didn't know I did that. Did I do. No. I don't want to say that. We're closer than we thought.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yes, you are. And then of course were you when

[Flula Borg]

Ralph breaks the Internet too. I played, I played in a secretary named maybe. And you know, as you know with these films, no one really ever makes eye contact directly with other people in an animated film. It's very rare.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah. You might meet on a press junket tour later.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah. But even then I don't, I never do press junkets.

[Flula Borg]

Yeah, that's every famously. You do not.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah.

[Alan Tudyk]

I mean I, it's part of. Don't even ask.

[Flula Borg]

Don't even.

[Alan Tudyk]

It's, it's rare like those types of things they bring just like a. The top. The top like the Sarah Silverman and Ralph. Ralph. Yeah, those two will go.

[Nathan Fillion]

You share that project and of course you both share in the Rookie because Allan, you participated in the Rookie as well.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yes, I'm, I am, I'm, I, I've done two episodes. So I've come back as well. I've reoccurred. I've grown as a character as well. I started out as somebody who just cleaned up crime scenes and then that sparked My interest in solving crime and I became an officer. Oh, think. Yeah.

[Nathan Fillion]

Did you? Well, you certainly started training because you were like, I want to be prepared for. For danger. And then you actually kind of participated in like a big old fight. Whoa,

[Flula Borg]

cake. Oh, yeah.

[Nathan Fillion]

And we knocked out one of your teeth.

[Flula Borg]

I had to watch this immediately.

[Nathan Fillion]

Do you have. Because we were talking about. We were talking about your. Your journey from Germany. Do you have. Do you have siblings?

[Flula Borg]

Zero siblings that I'm aware of. No. Which explains many of the things that I do. I was lots of self entertainment, lots of. In a literal closet making literal beats and. But thinking metaphorical thoughts. Yeah.

[Alan Tudyk]

So you were beating off in a closet, correct?

[Flula Borg]

Yes, I would beat off in the closet a lot. Sometimes people could hear it, sometimes people could not. Just based on the volume and violence of the beating.

[Nathan Fillion]

Do you have any family traditions that might surprise me?

[Flula Borg]

Well, several probably. I would not presume to know your level of surprise ability, Nathan, but after our tour of the haunted mountains and the houses, I think you are pretty.

[Alan Tudyk]

So.

[Flula Borg]

Yes, there was one where it's a holiday that is called Frasierween and Frasier Wein is like Halloween, except everyone dresses up as a character or an animate object from the television show Frasier.

[Nathan Fillion]

Frasier. That's what I was gonna guess.

[Flula Borg]

Yes. And so the only rule about Frasier is that it never occurs on an actual holiday time, but it also does not have a few fixed date. And also, no matter what, someone has to come as Frasier.

[Alan Tudyk]

So you just one.

[Flula Borg]

Yes. Only. Oh, come on now, Alan. Yes, yes, yes.

[Alan Tudyk]

1.

[Nathan Fillion]

There can be only one.

[Flula Borg]

It's not Frasier's wien, it's Frasier Wien. This one.

[Alan Tudyk]

Right, right.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah, yeah.

[Flula Borg]

So for example, I once was the space needle dressed up as a space needle.

[Nathan Fillion]

You're right.

[Flula Borg]

And then I also. You can see what I do. I don't like to play the real catches. I played a tossed salad.

[Alan Tudyk]

Who tossed it.

[Flula Borg]

It was. I bought some greens and then hang. Hung. Hung those from my head like Poison Ivy film, movie, Batman, whatever. And then I had two specialists and I would just. I was kind of blah, blah, blah,

[Alan Tudyk]

you know, Joel had tossed it or was.

[Nathan Fillion]

Would have to be one of the characters from Frasier.

[Flula Borg]

Oh, sorry. So Alan, in the song Frasier song there is about something about tossed salad and scrambled.

[Nathan Fillion]

Scrambled eggs. Oh yeah, he was in the theme.

[Alan Tudyk]

Oh, you were the. Ah, that's amazing.

[Flula Borg]

Yes. So I have to say that Frasier Wien, while it's from my family as well, two of my very close friends Also celebrated Frasier Wien separately from me. And we have united via the Internet. Mamrie Hart and Scotty Landis. We are all. We now celebrate it as a family for us.

[Alan Tudyk]

Oh, that's great. That's bringing people together now.

[Nathan Fillion]

Have you guys. Have the two of you ever met in person?

[Alan Tudyk]

We met one time.

[Flula Borg]

It was only one time and that was at your very nice intimate screening of Superman.

[Alan Tudyk]

Oh, that's where we met.

[Flula Borg]

Yes. You and I stared into each other's eye holes at the ball section before. And then we almost got into a conversation, but then something happened. I don't know, a glitch.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah, exactly. We just started to meet one another and something happened.

[Nathan Fillion]

Okay. Because I've been hanging out with you both a lot and I didn't know if your paths had crossed.

[Flula Borg]

Well, there was also a very interesting time traveling U boat based cartoon that someone in the animated space was like. Oh, the two people that should play Ivan and Peter. Which were the names of these traveling U boat guys were you and me was what the idea was. It's from a very. Oh, I forgot, I'm terrible at names.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yes.

[Alan Tudyk]

Do you remember this? I do remember this. Did it never happen?

[Flula Borg]

It never happened. Yeah. As most things.

[Alan Tudyk]

I remember the meeting though I. I

[Nathan Fillion]

did have a meeting about that interests me. I want to make this happen now. I want to see the two of you guys.

[Alan Tudyk]

It was also music involved that you're perfect for that because it was like a DJ thing was involved.

[Flula Borg]

Well, Alan, after this I teamed up with these two mythical people, Ivan and Peter and released several tracks on the Internet. Yeah. One was called San Tropez. Another Fancy Day in Saint Tropez was one of them. Duck Cluck. These are real songs. And so anyway, there are several songs with Ivan and Peter. Yeah.

[Alan Tudyk]

That's great, man. Wow. I've played German. So you're becoming. Since now you're here and you're carving out this niche, you've killed a revenue stream for me which has been doing German characters in. On camera and in animation.

[Flula Borg]

I. Is this true?

[Alan Tudyk]

I actually I. Right now I. I record two German characters so I guess I'm still getting revenue from them.

[Flula Borg]

What do they call it? Just so I can casually ask my agents about it.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah.

[Alan Tudyk]

One I've been doing for a long time, so I don't know how long it's. It shows up every once in a while in American dad. His name is Dr. Calgary and they're almost the same character. He's very creepy. And here has a helper that he Built out of spare parts named Billy, who's always screen things up. Then I'm a character.

[Flula Borg]

Oh.

[Alan Tudyk]

And I can never remember the name of it. It's on Hulu. We're in our third season.

[Flula Borg]

Is it cake?

[Alan Tudyk]

No, it's with. I should know this.

[Nathan Fillion]

You also played a German character in the. One of the Transformers movies.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yes. Yeah. So I played a German character in a movie called 28 Days with Sandra Bullock. His name is Gerhard Wei. Knocked. It was when I was just 29, I think. 29. His name is Gerhard Wei Nacht. And he was a stripper. And he was former stripper. Went to rehab because he had problem with cocaine and drugs and sex.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah. I want to say you really blazed a trail for German characters.

[Alan Tudyk]

I think I was. Yeah. I was early trying to. I was trying to lead the way.

[Nathan Fillion]

Alan Vax.

[Alan Tudyk]

Well, yeah, I guess that's more what I was doing. And then I got an audition many years later for Transformers Dark of the Moon. And they're like, he's a German character named Dutch. Weirdly, he's John Turturro's character's assistant. And his German accent, and he's very fancy. And I was like, I kind of did this before. You know what? Same guy. He was in rehab with Sandra Bullock, and then he got into the armed forces. That's where he met Agent Simmons. And he killed too many people. And he had a breakdown, and now all he can do is be his valet. And it worked out. There was a big scene where I pulled guns on a bunch of people in a Russian crime den. And I just dropped the guns and said, I'm sorry, that's the old me. And I started crying. Yes. And that wasn't in the script. And that's the director of the big Transformers movies. What's his name?

[Nathan Fillion]

Michael Bay.

[Alan Tudyk]

Michael Bay, yeah, Michael Bay. That's the guy. He said, alan, don't do that again. God bless him. He put it in the movie.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah, he was. It was worthy. That was a worthy bit. And then you were a vaguely European drug dealer.

[Alan Tudyk]

Oh, let's not talk about that one.

[Flula Borg]

What?

[Alan Tudyk]

Why not? That one was. I was in the.

[Nathan Fillion]

I was. I don't want to talk about it.

[Alan Tudyk]

It was, you know. You know, like, you know, people come up to you and they'll be like, I think you're great in everything you're doing. You're like, well, have you seen you. Never mind. That would be one. I would point them to be like. There was a. There was a thing. I played a Mexican named Pepe, who was vaguely European. It made absolutely no sense.

[Flula Borg]

Perfect.

[Alan Tudyk]

But so I. I have done that. I gotta find out this. What is John Hamm's. Let's just go with the computer came in, said the name of the. Because the computer did come in.

[Flula Borg]

Grimsburg is an animated series that airs as part of Fox's Animation Domination, starring

[Nathan Fillion]

Jon Hamm as Detective Marvin Flute, where

[Alan Tudyk]

I play a German character. And he's Also Lethal Weapon 4. Lethal Weapon. That's it. Anyway. And he's also. He's a. He's a former serial killer crime junkie who now teaches at a school for gifted children. And he's dangerous and he's troublesome, and nobody's texting me the answer. All right.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah. Let's get this back on track here.

[Flula Borg]

Let's keep trying to think of the name I like. I like. What? I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

[Alan Tudyk]

You like watching me in Painful.

[Nathan Fillion]

You did some dance, you did some music, you got into entertainment, did a little. Did a little comedy, but then you got jacked.

[Flula Borg]

Yes. Oh, you're. Yeah, I thought you meant the stolen automobile.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yes, I did. You became an action hero. You said, oh, I want to get. First of all, you're a big fella. You're a big guy. You're already in pretty good shape. Pretty darn good shape. And then was it the Suicide Squad that said, I'm gonna do this?

[Flula Borg]

Yes. I received the job for Suicide Squad as javelin, and I just was like, oh, he's a superhero person. I must immediately, you know, become a man with larger than average. For me, my average breasts and buttocks. And so I just went to town with a very, very great trainer, Italian trainer, Paolo Maschiti.

[Alan Tudyk]

Shout out.

[Nathan Fillion]

Oh, yes. I love his famous.

[Alan Tudyk]

I love his cherries. Mashiti cherries are very good.

[Flula Borg]

Oh, machete trainers. Machete cherries.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah.

[Flula Borg]

Sorry. Oh, no, fine. Have you had breakfast? Oh. So I was the gateway drug for Paolo because Paolo began with me and now he trains basically all of detective comics universe. But, yes, that's why. And then I loved the routine, and I loved the protein and something else that rhymes with that and the go lean. I don't know. And so now I like to maintain this, and that's why I do it. There's no really deep reason for it. It's just I find it enjoyable to lift things up and down.

[Nathan Fillion]

Listen, if you. If you had to go online and search, you know, Flula Borg, Jacked or Muscles or shirtless, it's insanity. It's like you're carved out of marble. It's, it's. I don't know how you maintain that. That is a full time job being jacked. Now what's the differences in both your job and your life?

[Flula Borg]

In the life, I eat more Greek yogurt than I was eating before and so that can be very exciting. In the jobs with the voices you can do avoid. Who cares? No one is seeing you. As you know, all of us, we have done these. Nathan, you were in the Automobiles franchise. Cars. That's right, yes. And you could wear anything you like. Just as with this, we are space boys currently podcast and so that doesn't matter. But also, I'm not a crazy jacket as you say, because if I'm wearing shirts, I look like a normal man who is purchasing Trader Joe's snacks. So it doesn't change too many things. But I have been able to play bad boys and rude boys and guys that are like doing pull ups before they say a word in a scene.

[Nathan Fillion]

Villains. Would you say villains?

[Flula Borg]

Yes, yes. My Spy Eternal City with Dave Bautista was. I was kind of the main bad guy of his. Well, yes, yes, I was his main. Like I don't like you very much. I also don't like you. Let's bang bang, right?

[Nathan Fillion]

His, his, his, his enemy. His what, what movie was that?

[Flula Borg]

My Spy Eternal City is starring Adele Bautista and Anna Faris.

[Alan Tudyk]

Oh great.

[Nathan Fillion]

Was there comedy in that one to be done?

[Flula Borg]

Was it cream. Sorry? Comedy, Comedy. Oh yes. I chose to not engage in the comedy because everyone else was so hehehaha. I was like, I will just not do this. And so I did not do that.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah, that's, that's another thing is you,

[Flula Borg]

you, you, you, you.

[Nathan Fillion]

Your industry is a great deal of comedy. So would that be your dramatic role? Are there more dramatic roles for you now?

[Flula Borg]

Yes, I played in the. In this is real. I'm not inventing this. There's a biopic called Bonhoeffer, which is about Dietrich Bonhoeffer, who is a, A, A figure in history in, in Germany who tried to assassinate Hitler. And so I play Hans Donani, who was one of his friends. So I played a historical figure, Hans Donani, who was not a skip tracer Randy type. I mean I was playing this actual figure in history. Yes. So I, Yeah, confusingly, I have done this.

[Nathan Fillion]

How does it feel? Because you typically go comedy. Is it hard to rein in the maniacal brain farts that are flula.

[Flula Borg]

Yeah. Thank you for elevating what I say with that description. Basically, I've decided my brain is a stable of horses. And sometimes I bring out the silly pony. And that's typically who I ride around the town. But sometimes there's a little bit of a Seabiscuit that comes out and we trot around and say serious words and no one giggles.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah, a Seabiscuit looks like a Clydesdale. I'm going to tell you right now.

[Flula Borg]

Oh, man. Let's have a Bud Light. Correct.

[Nathan Fillion]

I remember the first time I met Flula was on a. A little. In a van that they picked us

[Flula Borg]

up down by the river.

[Nathan Fillion]

A little hotel in each tree. Was it Peachtree, Georgia?

[Flula Borg]

Peachtree City. Home of lots of golf cart paths.

[Nathan Fillion]

That's right. And there we were without golf carts. And I remember when we were working, they brought us to that. That facility, the sound stages in. In Cameron. What the town is. It's the neighboring Peachtree. And they pointed to a field across from the sound stages and they said they're going to build a little city over there. And then two, three years later, there's an entire city across the street from the sound stages. And now that's where you stay when you go do some projects in Atlanta.

[Flula Borg]

It's crazy. It's like they just hired the Fraggles, you know, they just said, okay, let's go for it. And then the Doozers. The Doozers, yeah. Not the Fraggles. The Doozers.

[Nathan Fillion]

Right. Yeah, I know that reference.

[Flula Borg]

Oh, man. Wow. It's a city now. There's like a theater and homes and like, and cobblestones and a lake and.

[Nathan Fillion]

And a hotel and restaurants and a grocery store that doesn't have anybody working in it. You just take your stuff and leave.

[Flula Borg]

That was so. Yes. Very strange. That's where.

[Alan Tudyk]

That's where all the Superman people stayed.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah, I was there. Yes.

[Alan Tudyk]

And it's also a little bizarre. Man made town that you can walk around and go, I think that's Willem Dafoe.

[Flula Borg]

Yes.

[Alan Tudyk]

Weirdly populated by a lot of film stars.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yes. If you're going to see somebody of note, you're probably going to see them just walking down the street there.

[Flula Borg]

A quick question that everyone knows that listens to the space show. Did you two meet on the television show Lightning Bug?

[Alan Tudyk]

It was called Firefly.

[Flula Borg]

Oh, in Germany. Okay.

[Nathan Fillion]

That's where we became friends. Flula. But we met years prior. We lived blocks away from each other when we were 22 years old. And then Alan was working at a restaurant that I used to frequent.

[Alan Tudyk]

I fed him for cash, for tips. I fed him for tips and ogled his girlfriend.

[Nathan Fillion]

It's Our paths mingled, mingled, mingled. But we never quite connected until years later in Los Angeles.

[Flula Borg]

Does the restaurant still exist?

[Nathan Fillion]

No, no, no. Nor does the manager who fired Alan twice.

[Flula Borg]

Ron does not exist.

[Alan Tudyk]

His name is God damn Ron.

[Nathan Fillion]

But I mean, he might exist, but not as a manager of that restaurant.

[Flula Borg]

I understand G, like he wasn't a

[Alan Tudyk]

healthy guy, but I think, yeah, had I still stayed on, it would be open.

[Nathan Fillion]

That's probably.

[Alan Tudyk]

That's where they.

[Nathan Fillion]

That's where they lost their.

[Alan Tudyk]

That's where they made the mistake.

[Flula Borg]

They messed up. Sorry. I just needed to know this little titty bit of infios.

[Alan Tudyk]

That's okay. I loved your work in Suicide Squad and, and working out that much makes sense why you need so many fanny packs. Like you mentioned before, because there was a lot of butt shots of you in a very skin tight thing, uniform. You, you were both ridiculous people in that movie. If you haven't seen this movie, check it out. It's really good. It's the Suicide Squad.

[Flula Borg]

That's good.

[Alan Tudyk]

Respect. Okay. And if you want, you know, I

[Nathan Fillion]

said what's crazy is Flula got into incredible shape for this role. And then they covered him head to toe so you couldn't see, except for the. What was probably the shape underneath the costume. You couldn't see all his work. However, he channeled all that energy into his hair, which you could see.

[Flula Borg]

That's true.

[Alan Tudyk]

It was a blonde wig.

[Flula Borg]

Wasn't was someone's real hair.

[Nathan Fillion]

It was a real hair wig. Oh my goodness. That's high quality. Yeah, but it really. It flowed in the wind and Fuller embraced it. He couldn't wait to get that thing on every day.

[Flula Borg]

Well, that's very true. I tried to, while I did successfully twice leave set whilst wearing it just so I could walk around TJ Maxx and kind of show off a little bit.

[Nathan Fillion]

I also remember those costumes being very intricate. And then they dumped us in what was like a fake ocean on a fake beach and there was like little waves popping up and we just kind of. For an entire night we just kind of crawled out of the ocean real slow. It was really. It was heated. It was beautiful. It was really wonderful to be in there. It was really nice and a very relaxing evening.

[Alan Tudyk]

But did you pee in.

[Nathan Fillion]

Not in those costumes. Come on this. You got to keep wearing that thing. Respect.

[Alan Tudyk]

I just was there, you know.

[Nathan Fillion]

No, that's fair, that's fair, that's fair. But it did take a team of people to a get it off of you to have to pee and then put it back on you. So there's no real fly. They don't really attend to that kind of. They just say no, cover it all up. Anyway. Coming out of the ocean over and over and over again, the glue starts to come off. The little bits and p. P stuff. I remember like a team of like an army of ants would crawl up over Flula and there'd be people up all over top of him gluing back the corners to his costume. Every take it'd be in there with glue and pieces and pinching and God, it was like.

[Flula Borg]

It was like the Smurfs had captured Gaugamel and they're just now cleaning him up.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yes, yes.

[Flula Borg]

It was the first time that that outfit had been exposed to any sort of elements and so it immediately disintegrated. It was very fun. Yeah.

[Nathan Fillion]

It was fighting the ocean on the outside and fluid glutes on the inside. Neither. Neither can be contained.

[Flula Borg]

No. No one. Salty won't say which.

[Nathan Fillion]

Okay, flu lab, we're going to do a lightning round here. Are you ready?

[Flula Borg]

Oh, oh, okay. Yeah. Great.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah. What did you call it?

[Flula Borg]

Nepetrunde.

[Alan Tudyk]

You call him a bitch boy? No, it's not what you said. I'm sorry.

[Nathan Fillion]

Folding or ironing?

[Flula Borg]

What are we for? What?

[Nathan Fillion]

What is your preference? Would you rather be folding or would you rather be ironing? This lightning round is going very slowly.

[Flula Borg]

I'm sorry to ask you, but what are we folding and. Or iron?

[Nathan Fillion]

Is it probably clothing?

[Flula Borg]

Is it a burrito? It's what?

[Nathan Fillion]

Clothing.

[Flula Borg]

Clothing. Zero of the above. Hang.

[Alan Tudyk]

Hang it.

[Flula Borg]

Hang. Dry that baby.

[Nathan Fillion]

But I like it. Okay. Roller coaster or carousel?

[Flula Borg]

To look at.

[Nathan Fillion]

To ride. Yeah. To be on it and ride it. Yeah.

[Flula Borg]

Am I. Is it other loopies on the roller coaster?

[Nathan Fillion]

Absolutely.

[Flula Borg]

And the carousel is a standard 360 degree all the way around, up and down eight seconds. You're just in the same spot we just were.

[Nathan Fillion]

That's right.

[Flula Borg]

Basically like a dead end job watching

[Nathan Fillion]

the world go by.

[Flula Borg]

Yes, yes, yes, yes. Roller coaster. Yes.

[Alan Tudyk]

Lightning.

[Nathan Fillion]

Sharks or bears?

[Flula Borg]

I'm sorry, who? Sharks or bears in franchises.

[Alan Tudyk]

Lightning.

[Flula Borg]

Then you gotta go nado all the way, baby.

[Nathan Fillion]

Cats or dogs?

[Flula Borg]

To do what with? Go on a trip.

[Nathan Fillion]

Make friends.

[Flula Borg]

To use as an element. To make friends with others or for me to befriend personally with either of the animals.

[Nathan Fillion]

Let's go. The latter to you. Making friends with the cats or dogs

[Flula Borg]

for me to befriend the animal is this. How much time do we have for the friendship?

[Alan Tudyk]

A lightning amount of time.

[Flula Borg]

Oh, and sorry, what's Happening, Alan.

[Alan Tudyk]

It's a lightning round.

[Nathan Fillion]

He's being the lightning of the lightning round.

[Flula Borg]

And what does that mean? That means I should be dotting it. Watch out, Ben Franklin.

[Alan Tudyk]

It's the. It's the speed of light.

[Flula Borg]

Oh. So just a quick okay, then. The answer is Lima. Is Nathan. Okay. Gotcha.

[Nathan Fillion]

Biking or hiking?

[Flula Borg]

Oh, I like that. Those rhyme. I'm gonna say psyching because I enjoy to pretend to do something and then not do it, but I do it anyway. But maybe I will and maybe I won't.

[Nathan Fillion]

Flip flops or Birkenstocks?

[Flula Borg]

What's more fun to say? Nathan?

[Nathan Fillion]

Birkenstock.

[Flula Borg]

What?

[Alan Tudyk]

Flip, flop. Alice.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yes.

[Flula Borg]

Birkenflop. Flip and stock.

[Nathan Fillion]

Lions or tigers?

[Flula Borg]

Oh, my. Nathan, what do you mean? In terms of what? Going on a date with perhaps having a little bit of a lunch snack.

[Nathan Fillion]

Like you're walking in a foreign land. You say, oh, this is beautiful. And you turn around and one's leaping on you.

[Flula Borg]

What's he wearing?

[Nathan Fillion]

I'm saving. Let's go black tie.

[Flula Borg]

Just a black tie? That's it.

[Nathan Fillion]

Well, black tie attire. So formal work.

[Flula Borg]

Lion, obviously.

[Nathan Fillion]

Okay. Chicken or beef?

[Flula Borg]

What are we doing with it? Eating it just straight up.

[Nathan Fillion]

I mean, it's the main course of a, you know, lovely meal. And you like that with chicken or with beef?

[Flula Borg]

Is this a Portland main or rangely? Maine. Where are we going, Nathan?

[Nathan Fillion]

It's free range.

[Flula Borg]

Oh, then I would go. I think I would just do. I would say, sorry, chicken. Sorry, beef. I'm on a roll. And I would just eat a little bit of tuna.

[Nathan Fillion]

Okay. All right. All right. Lightning or snowstorm?

[Flula Borg]

Okay, well, yeah, Alan. Alan answered that one for us.

[Alan Tudyk]

Thank you.

[Nathan Fillion]

Fantastic. What was my last. Oh, winter or summer?

[Flula Borg]

And. What, again? So this is like your preference? Oh, in the song, you've Got a Friend by James Taylor.

[Nathan Fillion]

Sure, let's do that.

[Flula Borg]

And this is which one? I would prefer to him hear him sing.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yes.

[Flula Borg]

Winter, fall, summer. I would go summer.

[Alan Tudyk]

No, winter.

[Flula Borg]

Summer. I think the summer is more fun than the winter. When he sings it, it's like. You know what I mean?

[Nathan Fillion]

I hear you.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah.

[Flula Borg]

Did you?

[Alan Tudyk]

That was a lightning round.

[Flula Borg]

Next up, Stump the hype man.

[Nathan Fillion]

That was an uphill lightning round. I'm gonna tell you that right now.

[Flula Borg]

Well, listen, I'm glad to have participated.

[Nathan Fillion]

Flula, you have an incredible online presence. One of my favorite things that you have done online laugh a lot. Is when you are working out with your lovely trainer Paolo that we've mentioned before. He has a cleaning lady.

[Flula Borg]

Yes.

[Nathan Fillion]

Who is clearly a very good sport.

[Flula Borg]

Yolanda. And Yolanda is Paolo's cleaning lady for realsies. And she is more talented than all three of us. If you put us in a blender and poured it into a little bit of an in and out milkshake, she would be more. More delicious than that.

[Nathan Fillion]

I want to be a fly on the wall for the first time. You guys came up with a little sketch idea and said, hey, Yolanda, would you do this for us? And she pulls it off every time.

[Flula Borg]

She crushes it. She is the Robert De Niro of Nicaraguan origins. Cleaning lady actress. Yes. This was what happened. Paolo had this idea. Paolo closet to director.

[Nathan Fillion]

Really? Yep. That was his idea.

[Flula Borg]

Yes.

[Alan Tudyk]

For those of us who haven't had a chance to see this yet, although I'm sure we're all going to go watch this immediately after this podcast. Give us an example of one of the things that she does.

[Flula Borg]

Well, the first one was me. There's a little exercise called ropes, which is just. You're, like, going like this.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah, right, right.

[Flula Borg]

I don't know if it does anything, but it looks kind of cool. And so in this. In this video, I am doing the ropes, and in the background, Yolanda is cleaning. And then in a split seconds, we have reversed roll, is doing the ropes, and I am mopping the floors.

[Alan Tudyk]

It's like that real quick. Oh, yeah. It's like lightning, but yeah.

[Flula Borg]

Yes, yes.

[Nathan Fillion]

A little.

[Flula Borg]

A little slower.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah, there. There's a. There's a series of little sketches that you guys have done that have. That are extremely entertaining, where there's an attractive woman in the gym with you, and, like, the two of you are eyeing each other, and then you walk over and you walk right past her to Yolanda, who has had your eye the whole time. And the young lady was mistaken. And, like, different. Different little sketches like this. And then it all built up to what looked like a phenomenal magazine photo shoot with Yolanda. Correct. Where you are like, the man toy of a rich, fancy lady. There was a.

[Alan Tudyk]

And she did it.

[Nathan Fillion]

Oh, my God. Yes, Alan. With a. With enthusiasm and a plume. Like, she. I. I want to meet this lady and just kind of understand her a little bit, because she's like, yeah, all right. Sounds funny.

[Flula Borg]

She's the best. She. She is down to clown, as they say. Yeah, she's. She's very amazing. And that is true. And by the way, the lady that you reference in this skit is fellow DC member Gabby Defara.

[Nathan Fillion]

That's right. Gabby, who plays the engineer. Like, everybody's kind of down to clown in these. In these incredible shorts that you guys produce. It's fantastic.

[Flula Borg]

Thank you. Very fun. I really much credit to Paulo and Yolanda. I'm just showing up. It's. Whoever said that? Thomas Edison. Let's just go there and then that it happens. Yeah, Yeah.

[Nathan Fillion]

I, I'm extremely impressed with Yolanda and now knowing that that was all Pa's ideas. Now I'm. I'm equally impressed with Paolo.

[Flula Borg]

Yeah, yeah. He's an enigma, but a lovely Italian one.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah. You've had some wonderful YouTube bits. The doing DJ mixes in a rowboat on a lake, sampling stuff. Trying to explain to fellow boaters that you're not screaming for help.

[Flula Borg]

I was merely singing the song Radioactive by Imagination Dragons and they freaked out a little bit.

[Nathan Fillion]

Another boat. Are you all right?

[Flula Borg]

Yes. And I did before mama said knock you out by LL Cool J in my automobile with my mama, which was with your mother.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yes, indeed.

[Flula Borg]

Yes. So a very fun time.

[Nathan Fillion]

For those of you who have not seen. Please do a deep dive on. On Flula's Internet presence. There's a lot of creativity going on there.

[Flula Borg]

So much confusion.

[Nathan Fillion]

There must be a supercut somewhere. Of all your.

[Flula Borg]

In my. In my mother's brain, perhaps. Yeah.

[Nathan Fillion]

One of my favorite things to see about you. And then of course, one of my second. I'll say my second favorite is when you. When you come by and. And do your scripturacer Randy for the rookie, tell me, has that changed your. Your perspective or reaction at all? Have you noticed the. The rookie audience, They've always been very kind to me.

[Flula Borg]

They are wonderful. They are the greatest audience. And as you know, this show is very popular to a point that is so confusing that when I am in Germany, I get recognized as skip Tracer Randy more than anything that I do. It's.

[Nathan Fillion]

Is that right?

[Flula Borg]

Yes. Yes. It's crazy how popular this show is. I cannot believe it. Very wonderful. I love this delicious train and I'm glad to have just a tiny bit of gravy from it.

[Nathan Fillion]

That's.

[Flula Borg]

That's.

[Nathan Fillion]

I love hearing that. Because you've been in the industry a very long time. You've. You're very accomplished. You've done a lot of great things. You've worked with my lovely friend Elizabeth Banks. You did the, the Pitch Perfect stuff. You've done a number of animated movies. Trolls. You were in the second Trolls movie, the World Tour movie.

[Flula Borg]

This is your. Your encyclopedic knowledge of my Immidibi Nathan is very impressive. Yes. This is Also an accurate statement.

[Nathan Fillion]

There are some times when I'm watching something and I'll say, who is that? And I'll oh, my God, it's Flula. Yeah.

[Flula Borg]

And it is said with that level of disdain.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yes.

[Flula Borg]

We that doing this.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah, yeah. Every time they try to get away with.

[Flula Borg]

Yeah, exactly.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah. That makes me really happy that you were, I'm assuming, pleasantly surprised when you got those reactions from rookie stuff.

[Flula Borg]

Oh, it's wonderful. Listen, you create. You birthed this character for me, so I'm very grateful. And I get to do all kinds of silly goose type of things with professionals where I am not a professional, as we all know. And so just to be involved in things that don't involve me, what I would normally do at home, which is just cover my entire body in, you know, Worcestershire sauce. It's fun to do things like the Rookie Spicy.

[Nathan Fillion]

Tell me, you've had a very varied career. Is there anything you would love to do over for any reason? Be it to correct a mistake or to just relive a great experience? Is there any part of your career that you would like a do over?

[Flula Borg]

0 do overs. But I would like to be the lead in a rom com. I would like to be the lead villain in a horror movie. I would like to do a music. I also need to do a stand up special and I also need to reprise the Die Hard prequel which doesn't exist, where I play Hans Gruber and the film is simply called Gruber.

[Nathan Fillion]

Oh, that's great. There's a lot of things there that I would pay money to see.

[Flula Borg]

Great. I will send you any amount you like.

[Nathan Fillion]

The prequel to Die Hard. What makes Hans Gruber. Hans Gruber?

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah.

[Flula Borg]

How did Gruber. Gruber.

[Alan Tudyk]

Wow, that's great.

[Nathan Fillion]

I would pay money to see that.

[Flula Borg]

Well, question for you guys, would you. Is there a do over? Is there a redo in your guys's careers? Like, oh, I would like this mulligan returned.

[Alan Tudyk]

Alan, not a mulligan, but I'd like to do more Firefly.

[Nathan Fillion]

Hey, we just might, my friend. We just might.

[Alan Tudyk]

We're working on that. Or. Or Nathan's working on it. Somebody's working on it. It's being worked on. Conversations are happening. Damn it.

[Nathan Fillion]

We had a big announcement. Flula. That it went. It went over really well.

[Flula Borg]

Oh, I know. The. Is it. Is this embargoed? We can speak.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah, yeah. We can talk about it now.

[Flula Borg]

Yes, it's the animated version.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah.

[Flula Borg]

Animated.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Flula Borg]

Yeah. Feature or a series?

[Nathan Fillion]

A series is series. So lots of room in there for lots of characters. I'm just saying you might get a, you know, rain on your telephone.

[Flula Borg]

I might answer those texts.

[Alan Tudyk]

The Niska's ne' er do well, nephew. I. I have to go buy a house.

[Flula Borg]

Congratulations.

[Nathan Fillion]

You go ahead, I'll wrap do.

[Alan Tudyk]

Are we doing a thing know something about you or am I?

[Nathan Fillion]

Let's do. You're right, Alan. Let's just very quickly, let's do a. Let's get to know you better.

[Alan Tudyk]

I know you and you know me.

[Nathan Fillion]

Let's get to know you better.

[Alan Tudyk]

Okay.

[Flula Borg]

This one needs to be slow.

[Alan Tudyk]

It's just things we know about things. Tell us something we don't know about you.

[Flula Borg]

I was. Yes.

[Nathan Fillion]

Okay.

[Flula Borg]

I was once very obsessed with the Trader Joe's chocolate covered peanut butter filled pretzel bites. I would purchase one every Wednesday at the Trader Joe's near Hyperion. And before I arrived home, I would have consumed 50% of the bag. And then by the time the sun went down, the other half was also immediately gone.

[Nathan Fillion]

Are you an addict to those. Those confectionery delights?

[Flula Borg]

I was. Prior to that, it was the Vanilla Jojo's, which are also from Trader Joe's, of course. Spoiler. There are 42 cookies. I would place them in the refrigerator overnight. In the morning, I would eat all of them before 10:30am I've seen the

[Nathan Fillion]

lunch you pack fula when you go to work. I've seen the. The healthy salmons and broccolis and it doesn't look like chocolate covered peanut butter bites would fit into your diet.

[Flula Borg]

Listen, Nathan, there's a Jacqueline Hyde. Jacqueline loves salmon. Hyde loves those cookies.

[Alan Tudyk]

I did not know. I didn't.

[Nathan Fillion]

I did not know.

[Alan Tudyk]

I don't know. We didn't know that.

[Nathan Fillion]

Alan, what's your. What's your. We didn't know this about you. Okay?

[Flula Borg]

This is.

[Alan Tudyk]

I have to like, you know, I don't. I don't. I don't party that much. I don't drink too much. Okay. And if ever I'm in a position, if I'm down, I think that's probably the worst time for a person to actually drink. Like if that's. If that's the solution to being down. And sometimes that thought will occur to me. God, I just like a drink and I go, this doesn't. That seems like the wrong way of going about this. Handling what is, whatever ails me. And I have on more than one occasion to shake this feeling. I will go to Stock Photos, a stock photos website, and I will search alcoholism. Now it's not the fear of alcoholism. It's not the. It's not like gritty images of people throwing their lives away on a drug that is readily available. For me, what keeps me from drinking is looking at bad actors pretending to be alcoholics.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Alan Tudyk]

Bad lighting. Bad situations where they're like just some guy with his hands on his hips with his head cocked like. No. Looking at a glass of poured wine that will make anyone be like, God, what?

[Nathan Fillion]

I don't want to be any.

[Alan Tudyk]

It's so bad. It's. So I recommend people look through these. They're terrible. People like, looking at their phone and it's just terrible. And they're. And there's a bottle, like, on its side near them, and they're looking up like, oh, why did I do that? They're the worst. It's the bad acting.

[Nathan Fillion]

How did you come to this practice?

[Alan Tudyk]

I saw some initially. They made me feel terrible because of the bad act. They made me laugh first because they were ridiculous. But it's just. It's sad. It became sad. And I apologize if you're. If you're a Stack stock photo actor. I don't mean to tell you you're not good at this, but it's. It's. I don't know who's coming up with these ideas.

[Flula Borg]

They were. They were compensated.

[Alan Tudyk]

They were compensated and they're terrible ideas of. What is alcoholism like, a kid who's supposed to be crying, who isn't crying, but looking like they are sad and just a guy sitting on a couch. Alcoholism.

[Nathan Fillion]

In this scenario, is the kid, the alcoholic, or the.

[Alan Tudyk]

I don't know.

[Flula Borg]

I don't know.

[Alan Tudyk]

Maybe he's waiting for the alcoholic to come home. There's so much. It's. It's bad production value, bad lighting, bad ideas in action.

[Nathan Fillion]

And that's enough to turn you off of the idea of drinking when you're down.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah. I don't want to be any part of that.

[Nathan Fillion]

Whatever it takes. Whatever it takes, man.

[Flula Borg]

I get that.

[Nathan Fillion]

Okay. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. Mine is. You have to go, Alan. I'll share with Lou.

[Alan Tudyk]

I do, I do.

[Nathan Fillion]

Go ahead. Go, go, go, go.

[Alan Tudyk]

I hate this. I'm gonna.

[Nathan Fillion]

We love you.

[Alan Tudyk]

It was really nice to get to know you. Flu.

[Flula Borg]

Likewise, Alan.

[Alan Tudyk]

God bless you. Yes.

[Flula Borg]

A mid century modern home. That's my home. I will not.

[Alan Tudyk]

But I'm in New York.

[Nathan Fillion]

No, they don't have them.

[Flula Borg]

No, no, no. Yeah, Bye.

[Nathan Fillion]

All right, we'll finish this off with. Yes, this is a. Because we were talking about families and traditions and whatnot. It's Easter right now. Flula.

[Flula Borg]

Correct.

[Nathan Fillion]

This is the Easter. Happy Easter. This is the Easter time of year. Everybody loves a comeback story. I think this was Jesus's.

[Flula Borg]

This is the Rocky story. This is the most Easter time of the year.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah, yeah. In my family. And I. I didn't know this didn't happen for every family. When I was younger, I. It took me a while to glean, you know, what was happening. But the Easter bunny didn't just bring little eggs and bunnies and chocolate confections and candies and stuff. But the Easter bunny was also the source of socks and underwear. I can tell by your face that wasn't what you were expecting.

[Flula Borg]

No. So this is how you received your Underoos.

[Nathan Fillion]

That's right. For a long time as a child growing up, that's where socks and underwear came from, was the Easter bunny. So we would be doing the Easter egg hunt around the house or yard or whatever it might be, weather dependent, and you'd find, oh, oh, there's a chocolate egg. Oh, there's a little chocolate bunny. I'll probably eat the ears first. And then, oh, a pack of tighty whities. And, oh, a pack of brown socks. Why do I want brown socks? Oh, pack of white socks. I'll probably use those more. But they were hidden around the house along with the candies.

[Flula Borg]

There were other siblings. Correct.

[Nathan Fillion]

I have one brother, Jeff. I think you've met Jeff.

[Flula Borg]

I have met Jeff. Were these labeled or is like, if he found all the socks, you're barefoot. Until next time Jesus makes a comeback.

[Nathan Fillion]

Typically there were two sets of whatever we were looking for. I think we were pretty much generally the same size for quite some time. So we were all both smalls or both mediums or what have you. But. But that's. If you found two sets of white socks, one was probably for your brother.

[Flula Borg]

Oh. And you agreed with another enough to then share the socks if you.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah, we weren't, like, looking to really stockpile the underwear at any point.

[Flula Borg]

Point.

[Nathan Fillion]

We were like, oh, that'll do.

[Flula Borg]

Okay. Not like a nuclear weapons store. No, I'm just going to.

[Nathan Fillion]

But the idea of being with your friends and, and saying, wait a minute, where do you get your underwear? Because for me, it's the Easter bunny. That was a weird moment.

[Flula Borg]

Yes. A mythical rabbit delivers you undergarments.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah. So right before you have, like, great ring. If you have that conversation with your parent thing saying, you know, wait a minute, Santa isn't real. I mean, you have that kind of realization. I had that conversation with. Hang on a second. The Easter Bunny does what? Now?

[Flula Borg]

What I love is the depiction of the rabbit he's not wearing. She. I don't know. Not wearing undergarments.

[Nathan Fillion]

Typically pantsless. The Easter Bunny.

[Flula Borg]

Yes.

[Nathan Fillion]

Al fresco, as they say. Yes.

[Flula Borg]

No carbonara to be seen. Yes.

[Nathan Fillion]

So that's a family tradition. You probably didn't know about me.

[Flula Borg]

No, I did not know that. I want to adopt it and spread it.

[Nathan Fillion]

There you go. It's all yours. I have another question for you.

[Flula Borg]

Yes.

[Nathan Fillion]

What is your most dramatic role to date? Do you have an attraction to drama? I mean, you do a lot of comedy. You're very, very good at it.

[Flula Borg]

Well, thank you.

[Nathan Fillion]

I find that comedic actors can do drama very well and sometimes dramatic actors can't do comedy so good. It's a different animal. But if you can do comedy, you can do drama.

[Flula Borg]

1. I mentioned to you that the Bonhoeffer. A World War II bio. Biopic. Biopic. I don't know what that's called. That was probably. Yeah. Bless you. The most dramatic. And then. Then being a rude boy fighting Dave Bautista in My Spy is also one where it's more traumatic. But, Nathan, you know, you must know, it's fun to play, you know, bad guys and it's. It's nice to make a little giggle and make other people giggle, but sometimes you don't want to giggle. You want a little bit, oh, oh, what's happening? You know, that's not how I. When I'm on my self. Tapes. I do actually. You know what I mean? I don't say, oh, what's happening. That's not.

[Nathan Fillion]

But it's in your. Does it scratch a niche for you to do drama? Do you. Do you enjoy the drama part? Do you?

[Flula Borg]

Very much. I like it because it's a nice little switching of the gears. It's nice to, you know, ride around the 10 highway in fourth gear, but sometimes you just want to go into third and make that motor very loud.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yes.

[Flula Borg]

Nathan, you straddle both of them. You kind of go all over the mabipo. Do you have a preference?

[Nathan Fillion]

You know, I think I've. I've found a lot of joy in being the straight man who gets to play a lot of comedy if you, if you do it right.

[Flula Borg]

Leslie Nielsen.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah, if. If you. I, you know what? I've made a career out of getting kicked in the nuts, metaphorically. People, I think, like to see suffering and the straight man typically has to deal with the crazy one, the weird guy. You and I have this dynamic on the rookie constantly. I am the straight man to your Flula.

[Flula Borg]

Listen, it doesn't work if you're not there. Then I'm just an insane man that everyone doesn't enjoy. But if we get to. You watch whatever they are doing, that's very. It doesn't work. It's like there's a setup and there's no punchline if you're not there.

[Nathan Fillion]

I represent everyone in the situation that Randy subjects people to correct.

[Flula Borg]

And it doesn't work unless you are truly whatever it is you are feeling

[Nathan Fillion]

in that moment, suffering through your. And I'll tell you, this Flula, this is something you do very well. No two takes are ever the same. And you do a little thing that I like to do as well, which is once the scene is over, it's gloves off. The scene's over. Gloves are off. You always throw in a little something different at the end. That always makes it to the air.

[Flula Borg]

Does it make it. Oh, it does. Okay, okay.

[Nathan Fillion]

Something you do always makes it to the air.

[Flula Borg]

It's fun. Don't you? I like that. I mean, of course. And then it's nice because the director's not PO'd or to. Because you've just tried it after you did what you were supposed to do. It's like you did deliver that very accurate bowl of Cheerios, but then. Oh, yeah, exactly.

[Nathan Fillion]

If they don't want it, they can cut it off. Cause the scene's over. You've told the story. You've done everything that's required of you. But then you throw in a little flavor, and I think the. The moniker of accuracy. How accurate were you in? How useful is this piece? This flavor that you put in is. Does it make it to air or not? And I think you are working at probably a 90 to 95% success rate.

[Flula Borg]

Wow, that's too high. I will endeavor to lower that. That seems egregious, and I apologize.

[Nathan Fillion]

Are you having fun doing the Rookie?

[Flula Borg]

Because. Oh, what? Yes. Yes. You guys are writing for my silly goose brain.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah.

[Flula Borg]

I mean, it's very wonderful. Your writers are amazing. Your directors obviously know the show, and you guys are all such seasoned seasoning professionals that you can handle anything, including a little bit of a chaos agent, which is me. Or. And others.

[Nathan Fillion]

Alexei loves introducing chaos. You are a wonderful agent of chaos. Also, you're a treat. You are a favorite of the cast and crew. People get very excited to have you around. The Flula days are always fun days. Everybody's so thrilled to see you all the time listen.

[Flula Borg]

Likewise. Very confusing, but I really enjoy it and it is, of course, as mutual as it can get.

[Nathan Fillion]

Is there anything Flula that you would love to cover that we have not covered whilst you were here?

[Flula Borg]

Oh, in this delicious podcast, Nothing. I've very much enjoyed your lovely background. I've enjoyed meeting Alan in a more intimate way than I had previously. And I'm very excited for you guys to continue this episode series into the thousands of episodes.

[Nathan Fillion]

I'll leave you with this. Flula. When was the last time you cried?

[Flula Borg]

Oh, that was, I would say, nine days ago as I was watching Shawshank Redemption and then I watched Good Will Hunting.

[Nathan Fillion]

Shawshank Redemption is one of my all time favorite movies. I will stop everything I'm doing when it's on.

[Flula Borg]

Yep, same. Yeah, that is one of the best. When I first heard of the film, I didn't know two of the three words. I didn't understand what they meant in the title. So I was very confused. I did not know what I was going to watch. And then it was just one of the most lovely films of all time.

[Nathan Fillion]

The Shawshank and the Redemption part were tough.

[Flula Borg]

I didn't know what those two things meant. Very confusing.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Flula Borg]

No. Yes, those are mine. What about you? Last time a tears exited your eye

[Nathan Fillion]

holes, about the same amount of time ago, I was watching a video about a dog adoption video where they release dogs into a crowd of people and the dog picks the owner.

[Flula Borg]

Wonderful.

[Nathan Fillion]

A supercut of that. I got extremely emotional watching these people getting picked by dogs.

[Flula Borg]

Yes. Dog things really do it for me as well. Reuniting of pooches, very tough.

[Nathan Fillion]

Same thing. Right. I'm gonna throw this one at you. This was something I'd like to ask. Okay. I got a couple more questions for you before I haven't. I am not wrapping this up. Okay, here we go.

[Flula Borg]

Yeah.

[Nathan Fillion]

Have you ever seen a ghost?

[Alan Tudyk]

No, no, no.

[Flula Borg]

As a child, I was like, oh, I think that's a ghost. Really? That was me very afraid of a sound. That was not a ghost. It was science. Now, if you're asking, are they real, I have not seen one and I have not heard one, so I cannot confirm it for you. Other people will tell me they are real, but other people have told me other things are real that are not real.

[Nathan Fillion]

So what about UFOs? No, no, I've never seen anything like that.

[Alan Tudyk]

No.

[Flula Borg]

Have you seen either or both of these things?

[Nathan Fillion]

Ghost, no. Ufo. I saw something strange one time. I couldn't describe. I couldn't tell you what it was.

[Flula Borg]

Oh. Oh, well, okay. It's happened twice, but once I googled it and it was those. Those Elon Musk satellites. It's like those are just satellites, right? And then one time it was just a very giant plane. That's just a big, quiet plane. Weird butter plane.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah. Okay. Okay.

[Flula Borg]

Yeah.

[Nathan Fillion]

All right. And then the final question. When did you know that you made it?

[Flula Borg]

Oh, yes. I felt like I had accomplished a thing when I inadvertently won the Scion Hype man contest. This was a message to me from someone. Oh, this is a real thing. You should continue to do this. And then I just. That. And then one time I made a video that was called I'm in Flula in Germany, where I was. I was deportated. And so I wrote a song about my. I tried to turn that song into a fun lemonade. So I made a song about the things I love in Germany and then I put it on YouTube. And then three years later, it received hundreds of thousands of views from Reddit, very randomly. It's like, oh, this is the best now I know I can. And it was like a signal for me. I chose to interpret it as a signal to continue to make fun things and stick around.

[Nathan Fillion]

Those were very early. You've had a lot of incredible successes that were huge. I mean, just. You just talked about working with Dave Bautista. He's a big, big, big movie star now. But it was. Those are so early on for thinking I made it.

[Flula Borg]

Oh, I. Nathan, I cannot believe any of this has happened. This is a deep, deep confusion. As you said, this is a non existent niche. Yet somehow it's like if someone said, give me your Venmo and I was like, which is not even an address, but then they still give Venmo to this non existent address. That's basically my career. Very confused, very happy.

[Nathan Fillion]

I see it. I understand it. You know what I love Flula about your journey is that you are clearly enjoying yourself. You are using it to its maximum potential to have fun with it.

[Flula Borg]

Yes, I like to make things that are fun and that other people find also fun. And that's the whole point. Because there's lots of terrible things. So why not just make something fun to let people think about fun things?

[Nathan Fillion]

You do that for me constantly, all the time, with both your work, your entertainment, and your company. Flula, I love. Clearly, we hang out a lot outside of school. School. We've done I don't know how many events and haunted houses and Disneyland.

[Flula Borg]

Nathan, you are a wonderful videographer. And a person that you would be a very wonderful historian in the 18th century. You're very good at documenting and making sure that everyone is also enjoying. You are a perfect host and a documentarian. I salute you. And a wonderful friend, of course.

[Nathan Fillion]

You're such a lovely friend. I endeavor to hang out more with you all the time. What a weird set of circumstances that had to happen in both of our lives, kid from Germany, kid from Canada, for our paths to ever meet. I'm so happy that they did. I'm so happy that you did this little podcast. I am so happy that Alan finally left and we could just chat.

[Alan Tudyk]

I mean, that was.

[Flula Borg]

Honestly, the first hour was painful. I don't want to say keep up listening, but. Yeah, yeah.

[Alan Tudyk]

Awkward.

[Flula Borg]

Awkward. But thank you for forcing me to do that. It's nice to kind of just get a little, you know, discipline in my life, you know?

[Nathan Fillion]

Lula, thank you very much for coming. Thanks for doing this. I hope it wasn't too painful.

[Flula Borg]

It was wonderful. Thank you very much, Nathan. Thank you to Alan, wherever you are. And listen, everyone. Subscribe to Once We Were Spaceman. Available everywhere you get your podcasts.

[Nathan Fillion]

It's true. Thanks for that plug.

[Flula Borg]

Of course.

[Alan Tudyk]

Oh, my God. Thank you for listening. You just bless your heart.

[Flula Borg]

You know what? If you haven't yet, why don't you

[Alan Tudyk]

head on over to our Patreon. You're gonna get some bonus content. That's extra content. They're longer episodes. There's more there. You know what's better than less? More. You also get a chance to get your hands on some incredible crap. The kinds you don't need to wash off after you're done. And if you love the show, please leave us a review and tell your friends. Once We Were spaceman is a collision 33 production. The hell that is. The show's produced by Michelle Chapman, Siobhan Holman. Oh, yeah. And Josh Levy. I wear them jeans. He is of collision 33. It's all starting to make sense. It's edited and mixed and produced by Resident Records with special thanks to Courtney Plumquist and Adam Town Self. Our theme music's done by Carlos Sosa.

[Nathan Fillion]

The groove light horns guy.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah. And Joshua Moore. Artwork is done by Lewis Jensen. Until next time. I swear to God, I love you.