Once We Were Allergic to Everything and Answered Your Burning Questions | Episode 14

Summary

Podcast Summary: Once We Were Spacemen

Episode 14: Once We Were Allergic to Everything and Answered Your Burning Questions
Hosts: Nathan Fillion & Alan Tudyk
Original Release: February 11, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this vibrant, laughter-filled episode, Nathan Fillion and Alan Tudyk, known for playing iconic roles in Firefly, Resident Alien, and more, spend time reminiscing about their shared creative history, discussing fond and hilarious behind-the-scenes stories, reflecting on their careers, and answering fan questions collected from social media. With their signature warmth, wit, and rapport, the episode delves into memorable set moments, personal anecdotes about allergies and celebrity life, and playful reflections on what it means to be “successful.” Throughout, they maintain an intimate, joke-packed, and occasionally self-deprecating tone, making it feel like a cozy chat between old friends.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Firefly & Serenity Memories

• The Lost Blueprints (00:00–07:27)

  • Nathan recounts the saga of the Serenity blueprints. Years after the show, he realizes he’s been storing the original, full-sized blueprints for the ship in his garage while producers lamented their loss during movie production.
    • Quote:
      • Nathan: “Come to find out, I don’t know how many years later...I pull it out. Giant, full-sized blueprints for Serenity. I had the blueprints of the spaceship.” [00:23]
      • Alan: “So when they were saying, ‘We can’t find the blueprints,’ ...talking exactly to the guy who had them...” [00:33]
  • Nathan’s behind-the-scenes photos and plans helped piece together the ship’s reconstruction for the Serenity film.

• Set Salvaging and Scars (01:11–08:12)

  • Nathan describes slipping into the Firefly set post-cancellation, only to witness the medical bay being demolished—a memory that still haunts him.
    • Quote:
      • Nathan: “I opened the doors...and watched as a forklift smashed down the whole medical bay lounge area...It tore at me. It destroyed me.” [02:54]
  • Alan shares how he snuck a special button (“When your miracle comes, hit this button and we’ll all come running”) from the set and returned it to Joss Whedon as inspiration during a tough time.
    • Quote:
      • Alan: “I put a button [from ‘Out of Gas’]...on his desk and wrote on a note, ‘When your miracle gets here, just hit this button and we’ll all come running.’” [09:13]

• Signature Props & Fan Memorabilia (10:27–14:00)

  • Discussion of fan-forged autographs and the art of signature variations for different circumstances (e.g., airport versus planned events).
  • Alan’s “three-year-old with a crayon” signature compared to Nathan’s “flowing and beautiful” one, and playful banter about faking each other’s autographs.

2. Life After Resident Alien & Creative Hustle

• Life Post-Series (13:38–15:31)

  • Alan reflects on the surprising busyness after Resident Alien ended, highlighting ongoing animation projects, writing, and pitching new ideas.
    • Quote:
      • Alan: “I feel like I’m busier now. I’ve got projects that I’m writing and trying to get off the ground...I never stop. I feel like I’m busier than I’ve ever been.” [14:22]
  • They discuss the difference between structured TV work and the freedom (and challenges) of unscheduled creative life.

• Voice Acting & Animation (15:35–18:34)

  • Nathan praises Alan’s versatility in voice acting (Rick and Morty, etc.), while Alan reflects on admiring career voice actors like Nolan North and John DiMaggio and feeling like he’s only recently “getting it” as a VO professional.
    • Quote:
      • Nathan: “You can do anything that they need. Whereas they’ve had me on and I’m a one-trick pony.” [17:05]
      • Alan: “I think I’m starting to get it. About 15 years later, I’m starting to, I feel like I’m getting there.” [18:32]

• Reflection on Success (18:34–19:24)

  • Alan jokes about being “married to a woman” as his definition of success while Nathan insists that working consistently is success.

3. Deep-Dive Fan Q&A Segment

A lively, alternating set of questions ranging from silly to substantial.
Timestamps indicate start of relevant Q&A.

Alan’s Allergies & Food Stories (31:41–35:00)

• Alan is asked which allergy he’d eliminate: “Probably eggs...but I can’t eat eggs. And it’s right between eggs and gluten.” [33:07]
• Shares the story of eating gluten-free pastries in Paris: “We just bought up the whole shop and then just gorged ourselves and just had a diabetic issue.” [34:34]

Nathan’s Dr. Horrible Memories (35:31–40:10)

• Reminisces on the guerrilla, collaborative nature of Dr. Horrible’s Sing-Along Blog during the 2007–08 writers’ strike.
• Anecdote about filming his big setpiece atop a van and the lot catching fire shortly after: “We were the last thing to film on that New York street before they had a tremendous fire.” [39:55]

Smoking and Eating On Set (40:45–43:09)

• Alan details smoking real vs. herbal cigarettes on film and shares the hazards/downsides of continuity and health. [40:56]
• Nathan reveals his trick for pretending to eat on camera to keep from endlessly consuming food during takes. [43:09]

“Who’s Funnier?” Banter (44:11–44:59)

• Playful argument about which host is funnier—with each insisting the other is:
  • Alan: “No. You’re funnier. I acquiesce.”
  • Nathan: “You're funnier. I acquiesce. Nathan, listen.”
  • Alan: “I’m super funnier.”

Buffy Fight Scene Story (45:12–47:41)

• Nathan shares the story of how, on Buffy, he ended up manhandling a stuntwoman during a complex scene:
  • “It was that. But throwing her into, you know, make believe brick walls.” [47:14]

Closest Character to Real Alan (47:43–48:29)

• Alan quickly chooses Wash from Firefly: “Wash. Easy answer. Thanks, Oswiz. And that’s why I like Wash so much.” [47:49]
• Alan admits he’s grown to appreciate the show’s Chinese/English dual-language dynamic only in retrospect.

Taking the Podcast Live (49:09–55:34)

• Speculation on taking the podcast on the road, mixing live bits, physical comedy, and old vaudeville songs (Alan as King Candy, medleys, and more).
  • Quote:
    • Nathan: “If I did a podcast episode live with you...I would be so pleased to do Monty Python sketches with you...” [53:58]
    • Alan: “We could get John Dinerstein...I could sing the songs and go from one to another. It’s called a medley, and I can do them all. Let’s do it.” [55:08]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the Value of Set Pieces & Memories:

  • “I want to cry right now. That’s such a poignant, beautiful, perfect piece.” – Nathan (on Alan’s gift to Joss Whedon) [09:48]

• On Their Signature Styles:

  • Nathan (about Alan’s autograph): “Yours is like a crayon in the left hand, grabbed with a fist of a three-year-old.” [11:00]

• On Success:

  • Alan (deadpan): “Oh, success, I am married to a woman.” [18:39]

• On Laughter (and its dangers):

  • Alan: “There are two laughs I do not accept as laughter...The XKSS laugh...and then there’s a hiss...it will quiet other laughter. It’s offensive.” [26:12–27:52]
  • Nathan: “...how about just, rather than tell me, you just maybe chuckle a bit.” [28:05]

• Food & Allergy Comedy:

  • Alan: “My favorite food: coffee.” [33:52]
  • Nathan (on describing eggs): “Rub it in, Nathan. Just rub it in.” [33:26]

• Planning a Live Show:

  • Nathan: “If we do this, we would be then partially a visual medium...I would have you do the bit...Fanning Cleopatra...” [50:43]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Intro/Serenity Blueprints: 00:00–07:27
• Firefly Set Stories / Set Salvage: 07:28–08:59
• Props & Signatures: 09:00–14:00
• Post-Resident Alien, Animation Work: 13:38–18:34
• Success & Voiceover Reflection: 18:35–19:24
• Let’s Get To Know You—Halloween Story/Laughter Rants: 21:53–31:41
• Fan Questions:
  • Alan’s Allergies & Food: 31:41–35:00
  • Nathan on Dr. Horrible: 35:31–40:10
  • Smoking & Eating On-Set: 40:45–43:09
  • Who’s Funnier?: 44:11–44:59
  • Buffy Fight Scene: 45:12–47:41
  • Closest Character to Real Alan: 47:43–48:29
  • Taking Podcast Live: 49:09–55:34
• Sign-Off Playful Banter: 56:32–58:16

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Final Notes & Tone

Throughout the episode, Nathan and Alan demonstrate the rare, hilarious chemistry that made them fan favorites on Firefly—mixing deep affection, mutual awe, and relentless teasing. They riff on each other’s foibles, celebrate each other’s talents, slip into bits and voices, and handle even mundane questions with showman’s delight. The episode is a treat for fans of both actors, those interested in showbiz oddities, and anyone who appreciates a good friendship full of inside jokes and heart.

Memorable Sign-Off:
Nathan: “Till then, I’ll just enjoy those sandwiches and describe them to you.” [58:12]
Alan: “Thank you. Thank you very much. Oh, my God. Thank you for listening. You just bless your heart...” [58:16]

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Transcript

[Nathan Fillion]

We were going to do Serenity and they were going to rebuild everything. And I went into the production offices to just to take a look around and just to just to bask in it all. And they were talking about, yeah, we don't know, we don't know how to. We got to rebuild these, this ship and we don't even know what it looked like. Come to find out, I don't know how many years later I'm cleaning out my garage and there's this giant tube, cardboard tube, and I what's in here? And I pull it out. Giant, full sized blueprints for Serenity. I had the blueprints of the spaceship.

[Alan Tudyk]

So when they were saying, we can't find the blueprints, we don't know how to do this, talking exactly to the guy who had them, and I just.

[Nathan Fillion]

Shrugged and said, what are you gonna do?

[Alan Tudyk]

Once We Were Spacemen. Space men. I tend to play weird people, usually aliens and robots and things that don't have romance.

[Nathan Fillion]

I once didn't get a job where they were looking for a Nathan Fillion type. Once We Were Spacemen.

[Alan Tudyk]

Once We Were Spacemen. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Once We Were Spacemen. Because it was one time that we were spacemen. We would go to Foxlot and we would go into Soundstage four. And Soundstage four was space. It was our space. It was your space. We missed that space. And now we have this space to talk to you from. And it's us who were once the spacemen, who will always be spacemen who are talking to you now, who we believe you also to be. Spaced Spaceman.

[Nathan Fillion]

Alan Tudyk.

[Alan Tudyk]

Hello, sir. Nathan Filon.

[Nathan Fillion]

How you doing, buddy?

[Alan Tudyk]

I'm a little. Okay. I'm a little under the weather.

[Nathan Fillion]

Oh no. Uh huh.

[Alan Tudyk]

So you're gonna hear. There's some things you're gonna hear, that kind of thing. You're gonna hear a little bit of that sexy, sexy little blow just to clear out the gunk from my sinus area and my frontal mask.

[Nathan Fillion]

You know what? I'm going to just. I'm weighing that against the quality time I spend with you. I say that's a fair price to pay.

[Alan Tudyk]

Good. I'm glad you're willing to suffer through.

[Nathan Fillion]

What you were just saying about the Fox lot and Stage four. Was that really the stage number? Was it Stage four? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It reminded me of two things. One was I had visited the Fox lot after we finished Firefly. This first time I visited was, was not long after. It was right after we got canceled And I just said, hey, I'm here. I'm just going to slip in and see if that set is still up.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah.

[Nathan Fillion]

And I opened the doors. The little doors, not the big outlet doors. Popped in the little fire door, and watched as a forklift smashed down the whole medical bay lounge area of the lower. That's the sound I made. It tore at me. It destroyed me.

[Alan Tudyk]

That was.

[Nathan Fillion]

And then. Yeah, it was awful. And then the second time was. Was much later, and I was attending a party, and they were using a Soughtage as the event space, and it was all decorated. It sounded really beautiful. And I looked around, I went, holy crap, this is where my spaceship was. I am right now standing approximately where the cargo bay door was. That's where the engine would have been, and that's where the door end would. And those are the catwalks up there. And, yeah, it was the. I was. I was standing right there, Adam. It was. It was. I had a moment.

[Alan Tudyk]

I've refused to go on the Fox lot since. That's how. Okay. I haven't been invited back. I'll admit it. It's been 20. How many years?

[Nathan Fillion]

That'll teach him.

[Alan Tudyk]

Now. I went back. I actually went back and did a Joss Whedon show. I did. What was the thing with Elijah Dollhouse.

[Nathan Fillion]

With the lovely and talented Eliza Dushku.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yes. Who's also in Con Man, God bless her. Yeah. That's. I did Dollhouse right at.

[Nathan Fillion]

It was.

[Alan Tudyk]

It was just a few years after we were done. It was like Joss Fox, really. There were. Again, there were disagreements between. But I guess there's always. I assume there's going to be some friction between the studio and the creators. At least there always was when it was a Joss Whedon show.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah. When art meets finance, I think there's always going to be a. Yeah.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah. It's tough to come to the same understanding.

[Nathan Fillion]

Do you remember? Because now we're talking about. I'm still stuck on the ship.

[Alan Tudyk]

Well, I'm sure. And there's gotta be a deep scar where the thing was crushing the medical bay. That seems like an unnecessary wound. That's. I mean, if you could go back.

[Nathan Fillion]

In time and unsee that, that would certainly be something. But this is actually a happy memory now. We. We were gonna do Serenity, and they were gonna rebuild everything, and I went into the production offices to just to take a look around and just to. Just to bask in it all. And they were talking about, yeah, we. We don't know how to. We gotta Rebuild these, this ship, and we don't even know what it looked like. I said, oh, I took a ton of photos of a bunch of old plans and stuff when we did the pilot. So I emailed them all these photos of all these different plans and whatnot. This and that.

[Alan Tudyk]

Like blueprints?

[Nathan Fillion]

Well, like blueprints, but not blueprints. Okay. Come to find out, I don't know how many years later I'm cleaning out my garage and there's this giant tube, cardboard tube, and I. What's in here? And I pull it out. Giant, full sized blueprints for Serenity.

[Alan Tudyk]

Oh, for Serenity.

[Nathan Fillion]

I had the blueprints of the spaceship.

[Alan Tudyk]

Oh, from Firefly that Serenity wanted.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yes, yes.

[Alan Tudyk]

So when they were saying, we can't find the blueprints, we don't know how to do this, talking exactly. To the guy who had them, and.

[Nathan Fillion]

I just shrugged and said, what are you going to do?

[Alan Tudyk]

I have some photos. You can maybe piece it together. Is that how they pieced it together, though, from your photos?

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah, that. My photos played a. Played a part in there. The, the Serenity spaceship was far more, I think, detailed and more budget went into it and whatnot. But when they were building the actual ship, I went into the bridge for the first time and I looked around. They said, what do you think? And I was. Oh, my gosh, I was beside myself. And I looked all around. I sat in. I sat in Wash's pilot chair and I looked around and I look up and I said, you're going to need three switches right up here. He said, what? I said, every time Allan does something in this chair, he starts with click, click, click. These three switches up here, he's going to need those. And they said, okay, yeah, yeah, we can do that. Right, right here. I said, yeah, right there. And then I was there the first time you got on the bridge and I got to watch you and see your impression of it, and you went, whoa. You were just like me. You did exactly everything I did. Oh, yeah, look at this. Oh, and you got to. This, this. You sat in your chair, you kind of bounced in it a second. You. Yeah, you grabbed the yolk, you went, oh, yeah. He looked up, you went, click, click, click.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah, those are.

[Nathan Fillion]

That.

[Alan Tudyk]

That would be like the, the Alexa of. Sorry if I just set off anybody's. That word. Hey, my name is Denise. By saying that, does that still happen? I guess that could possibly happen.

[Nathan Fillion]

Does it?

[Alan Tudyk]

Does it does. So that would be like the click, click, click. All right. Spaceship Serenity. Get Ready? Something's about to happen. It needed that shift in clicking before, and it could be. Yeah.

[Nathan Fillion]

Either way, a little tickle to get things started. A story that you've told many times at conventions that maybe somebody listening to this right now has not heard, though, is, what did you take from the Firefly set? And yours? I think we've all taken something. Your story, I think, is the best.

[Alan Tudyk]

It's not a contest, Nathan. Look, yes, I win the contest, but it doesn't. It shouldn't.

[Nathan Fillion]

We're friends.

[Alan Tudyk]

We don't need to compete like that.

[Nathan Fillion]

I'm glad.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah. But, yeah, totally won on what I took. Although I took. I don't have it anymore. Because what I took was the switch from out of Gas. Out of Gas, which was many of the cast's favorite episode, written by Tim Minear, I believe. And it was a button that, when the ship was. It had a problem with the. Not primary buffer panel, but the catalyzer. Catalyzer. Oh, God. You know, sometimes when things are broke, they're just broke. And that thing broke. And so we took off in the two ships on the side, and you were left on the ship until your miracle came. And I put a button there, and I said to Captain Mal, hey, whenever your miracle gets here, just hit this button and we'll all come running. And I tried to take my steering wheel, but that song bitch was on good. I needed tools that I didn't have. The dinosaurs had already been gone. Somebody had taken them. I couldn't figure out what to grab. And then I saw that button, and I pulled it. And since it had been put on later and wasn't welded to the thing, it just came off in my hand. And now that was mine. And I was sitting on my desk at home, and I never felt like it was mine. I felt like it was Joss's. And so I went to go give it to Joss, and he had it just, you know, he was trying to get Serenity made, and it just all kind of fell in that I. He wasn't there when I got to the Mutant Enemy offices, but I went in and set it on his desk and wrote on a note, when your miracle gets here, just hit this button and we'll all come running.

[Nathan Fillion]

It's so. I want to cry right now. That's such a poignant, beautiful, perfect piece.

[Alan Tudyk]

And moment he said it was. It came at a time when he felt like he really needed a boost. He felt like it was an impossible thing he was trying to do. He felt like nobody Even cared or. I don't even remember why he felt down about it, but he said that it made a difference, so that's nice. Yeah. I didn't tell him how much it cost. I still have got to get that. I mean, that wasn't for free. I mean, like I say, you know.

[Nathan Fillion]

What I could have made on ebay with this?

[Alan Tudyk]

Good God, cashola, baby. That's a piece of history right there.

[Nathan Fillion]

Have you ever looked on ebay and seen how many forged autographs? Oh, no. Your face tells me. No, I've. I've looked on ebay, I can look at my autograph and say I signed that. Yeah, I clearly did not sign that. Yeah, I think. I think literally anyone could with a side by side comparison. But there's like a ton of stuff over there on ebay. Wow. People are clearly forging our autographs. Yours not so tough. Mine is. Mine is flowing and beautiful.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah. And it's very. Yeah, yeah.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yours is like a crayon in the left hand.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Nathan Fillion]

Grabbed with a fist of a three year old.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah, that's. That's mine. So anybody out there as a three year old who's not left handed, you can sign like me, make bank on ebay. You know, there's some people, some actors who have different signatures. Like if you hassle them in an airport, they have an airport signature, which is not their signature. So be like, yeah, you do this.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah.

[Alan Tudyk]

So they have the not signature signature.

[Nathan Fillion]

Well, I do this not because I'm annoyed, but if the situation warrants, like there's just no time and a bunch of people are shoving things into your face. That's not my. That's my least favorite is the pushing things in my face. I'll keep it at an arm's length and I'll initial.

[Alan Tudyk]

Oh, okay.

[Nathan Fillion]

I just initial.

[Alan Tudyk]

Okay.

[Nathan Fillion]

That keeps. Everybody gets a little something.

[Alan Tudyk]

I was in an airport with Summer Glow just to remind you, she played.

[Nathan Fillion]

River in the show.

[Alan Tudyk]

You remember her?

[Nathan Fillion]

I'm keep talking and I'll. If I.

[Alan Tudyk]

If it rings a bell. She was like. She's like crazy all the time cutting people up and she was you. I couldn't. There weren't enough space trucks to quiet that girl down anyway. No power in the verse can stop me. What was I saying? Oh, yeah. I was in an airport with Summer and this woman comes up and she's like, could you sign this for me? And she goes, I don't sign in airports. It's just I. I can't. And she, she stood right with her and she said, my child is. She had some big story. And she's like, I'm sorry, I really can't. And she wouldn't leave her alone. It was crazy. I don't know what her deal was. Let's end this story. So you have the initials. That's great. I don't sign in airports. That's just the rule. Because it's creepy to me that you have to go in and, like, who's on what flight and all that stuff. You shouldn't be able to find out that stuff. And if you are looking in that, it's a little creepy.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah. There was a group of. There was a group of fellows in Vancouver who. Whenever I had a flight coming out of Vancouver, they were there with a stack of stuff. You know, at this point, they're not fans, they're just right. They're selling this stuff on ebay, whatnot. But someone's given them my flight information.

[Alan Tudyk]

I had someone come up to me at an airport and they had a picture of. They say, here, could you sign this picture I took of you sleeping the other night? And I knew they were a fan.

[Nathan Fillion]

Alan. I apologized for that six times.

[Alan Tudyk]

Okay. But I. It's. It's just you went the extra effort, so I knew you cared. On certain side, I knew you cared. Another part of me knew law enforcement needed to get involved. I'm glad that's behind us. Yeah, behind us.

[Nathan Fillion]

How you been?

[Alan Tudyk]

How I've been? Yeah, I've been, You know, Resident Alien ended. Yeah. Resident Alien was my main job. So that ended a while ago now. So I would think I would not be working. I would have, like. I would have much more just time on my hands. I'd be chilling out, I'd be relaxing and enjoying a little time to recuperate. I believe that artists, after they put out a lot of energy and creation, it's kind of good to go into sort of a. A fallow period, if you will. A time to reflect, to sort of let the soil get nutrients in it again so you can grow something new. I'm not following much. I'm staying super busy, and I feel like I'm busier than I've ever been. Just going here, going there, going here, going there. I have a lot of recordings for a lot of animated projects. I'm just flying around a lot. We're moving, we're trying to. There's just so many. I never stop. I feel like I'm busier now. I've got projects that I'm writing and trying to get off the ground and stuff. It's just. It's a different kind of busy. I'm pretty busy. Pretty busy. Some of it's exciting as hell, and I can't discuss it, and some of it's exciting as hell, and I can't discuss that either. They're just exciting in different ways.

[Nathan Fillion]

When you're working and you have a steady gig, your hands are tied. I gotta be here for this amount of time, and when I got home, I got two hours. I'm just gonna use that chill and recharge a little bit, and then go back tomorrow and start again. Your hands are tied when you don't have a steady schedule. Yeah, now. Now life is yours to deal with. Like, you gotta. You gotta handle your business.

[Alan Tudyk]

You gotta tie your own hands, and it's hard to get the other one tied. The first one's easy. It's the second one, you're like, I can't get it.

[Nathan Fillion]

If you. If you hold them together and you kind of swing the rope around, you can kind of get a little. Oh, yeah.

[Alan Tudyk]

That's a man who's tied his own hands before. That's a man who knows.

[Nathan Fillion]

I enjoy animation. I love. Like, you're talking about doing some voice work. Yeah, I enjoy animation. I can't count in the amount of times I've been watching something and said, holy crap, that's Alan. Rick and Morty, one of my favorite shows. I was watching an episode. Stephen Colbert was one of the guests. Yeah, yeah. And you were the mayor of this town, and you were hilarious. And then later on in the episode, you were another. You were one of the police officers.

[Alan Tudyk]

Oh, yeah.

[Nathan Fillion]

In a SWAT team. And you had a very emotional scene. And it was. I. One of my favorite episodes. One of my favorite episodes. You're all over it. And again, one of those episodes where I got to call you and go, you did Rick and Morty.

[Alan Tudyk]

And you go, you did Rick and Morty?

[Nathan Fillion]

Oh, yeah, I did. Yeah, I did Rick and Morty. But I called you right away and said, guess what? I did Rick and Morty. I had T shirts made. I have a mug. You have a mug. I give you the mug. Nathan called Rick and Morty.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah, that was a cool. I love Rick and Morty. It was very cool to be in. I need to. I want to be in it again now. I mean, they. I met the new Rick and Morty guys. There's two young guys doing the voices because it's no longer Justin.

[Nathan Fillion]

I have no doubt they'll have you back. And here's another thing about you. Let me, let me tell you a.

[Alan Tudyk]

Little something about you, Alan. Tell me, buddy, you've got something on your face. What? Oh, that's a booger. Again, let me. Oh, I haven't, I haven't, haven't followed through with my six sounds. Thank you. And for those people of a gag reflex. Sorry, that was for you.

[Nathan Fillion]

I have no doubt they will have you back because we did this at a panel one time where I just started prattling off all the roles that I could remember you doing. And I had about 8 off the top of my head. And you just did each voice, each voice, each voice. And they're all different and they're all, of course they'll have you back because you can do anything that they need. Whereas they've had me on and I'm a one trick pony. I kind of sound like me all the time.

[Alan Tudyk]

That's a good thing. That's a good thing to be able to be you.

[Nathan Fillion]

Listen, it's great. It's a little limiting to have the one thing. If they need this, I'm perfect if they need anything. You're perfect.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah, I get. And I don't know about that. Thank you very much. I used to consider myself for many years not a voiceover actor, even though I was doing big jobs that were voice jobs. Because I know voiceover actors who are like Nolan north, like John DiMaggio, people who can not only they have range and they can do anything like you're saying, they have the ability to just, gosh, do anything. They have instruments that are like Broadway stars where they can just batter the hell out of them, hit all the high notes and then show up for a two show day the next day. Like they, they have the ability just to come right back because they have, they got the pipes. I'm, you know, I'm an actor who began doing voiceover, but now I, I think I'm, I'm starting to get it. Starting to get it. About 15 years later, I'm starting to, I feel like I'm, I'm getting there.

[Nathan Fillion]

I wonder about your gauge sometimes. We talked once about success and you.

[Alan Tudyk]

Said, oh, success, I am married to a woman.

[Nathan Fillion]

That's a master punchline. That's a master punchline, sir.

[Alan Tudyk]

Oh, it is. Well, yeah.

[Nathan Fillion]

What, what did you call me?

[Alan Tudyk]

What did you call me? Yeah, that was a masterpunch. Yeah, that's right.

[Nathan Fillion]

I use that all the time. That one. Yeah.

[Alan Tudyk]

So it would be. What did you just call me? Nice, nice.

[Nathan Fillion]

So as I was Saying we were talking about success, and you said, I don't know if I'm a success. I mean. And I said, I. All your work. Well, that's just work. Well, yes, you are successful in that you work a tremendous amount. And now you're saying, oh, I don't know, that I'm a voice actor. Guess what, Alan?

[Alan Tudyk]

You are what you do.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah. If you want to look at your IMDb, yeah. You're a voice actor and you do these things. I'm going to tell people something about you that they might not know.

[Alan Tudyk]

Oh, oh, oh. I had one about you, too. Dang. Okay, go on. Maybe I'll remember it.

[Nathan Fillion]

When Alan sets his mind to something, and Con man is a fantastic example. I want to do this. He does it, and not in a small way. He starts at the bottom and he works out all the bits, and then he follows through until the very end and goes, there, I did it. One of the ones that they don't know about is Alan one time said, I'm gonna learn how to play guitar. I said, oh, really? Cause that's an endeavor. Like, it's not like you just pick it up. You gotta. Alan went and he happened into an incredible guitar. Actually. You found some guitar that was custom made for somebody who didn't want it anymore. And so you getting a very nice kind of custom guitar piece that's really quite beautiful. Yeah. But you started taking lessons from two different teachers.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah.

[Nathan Fillion]

Over in your neighborhood, I want to say, in Venice. Yeah. And you said, oh, I like this guy because he teaches me about. About this kind of stuff. And I like this guy because he teaches more like this kind of stuff and this. And then weeks later, a couple of weeks later, I said, how. How are the lessons going? And you said, oh, I. I wrote a song. What? Yeah, I wrote a little. I wrote a little song. And then you. You picked up a guitar and you started playing the song. And not only.

[Alan Tudyk]

And you said, that is Stairway to Heaven, Alan. That. You did not write that.

[Nathan Fillion]

But not only were you playing guitar, but you also came up with a song that was melodic and was poignant. It had poetry. It meant something. I was looking at you going, holy.

[Alan Tudyk]

You started this two weeks ago, and now I can't play guitar. Raisin hated it. She'd run away and I. I couldn't handle the rejection.

[Nathan Fillion]

She said, alan, you're a piano man.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yes. Sing us a song. You're a piano man.

[Nathan Fillion]

What do you think about really quick segment, get to know you better, and then go on to some Fan questions. This is something that you had talked about the other day, because when we do panels, there's usually fans to ask questions. So we went on our social medias, got a bunch of questions. We're going to answer some of those today.

[Alan Tudyk]

Great.

[Nathan Fillion]

But before we do that, would you like to do a little let's get to know you better?

[Alan Tudyk]

Oh, yeah. Yes, let's do that. Play that song. I know you and you know me let's get to know you better.

[Nathan Fillion]

All right. Would you like to start, Helen?

[Alan Tudyk]

Okay, I'll start. Oh, no, I started last. You start. You start.

[Nathan Fillion]

Okay. Last time.

[Alan Tudyk]

Last time, you.

[Nathan Fillion]

You had, like a. There was. It was. It was harrowing.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah, harrowing story. I tried to dig a little deeper.

[Nathan Fillion]

This time and said just to get something a little. With a little more juice, a little more meat.

[Alan Tudyk]

I tried to get away from stories of murder.

[Nathan Fillion]

So. All right, so great. With that episode and this episode, I think we'll achieve some balance. All right.

[Alan Tudyk]

Okay, good. Listen to episode 12. Once we came of age to hear.

[Nathan Fillion]

Alan's story, my mother and my brother, when we, my brother and I were children, conspired against me so that for Halloween, they tricked me into dressing like Raggedy Ann. They tricked me into dressing like Raggedy Ann for Halloween. Now, my mother, God rest her soul, not dead, she used to make our Halloween costumes, and she would, you know, go to the nice fabric store and she would go into a magazine and buy a pattern. She had a sewing machine in the basement. She would buy all the fabrics, and she would make elaborate, like, incredible costumes from patterns and sew them all together and stiffeners. We were Donald Duck. We were Donald Ducks one year. We were Mickey Mouses one year. But this was an early in the Halloween career. My mother took my brother aside and said, hey. I'm going to say, hey, what do you want to be for Halloween? You can be Raggedy Ann or you can be Raggedy Andy. And I want you to say, I want to be Raggedy Ann. My brother said, no way. She goes, no, no, no. Just say it and don't worry about it. So later on, when they were in front of me, you know, I'm just a little kid, my mother says, hey, what do you guys want? Do you want. Nathan, Jeff, do you want to be Raggedy Ann or do you want to be Raggedy Andy? He goes, I want to be Raggedy Ann. I said, I want to be Raggedy Ann, because that's what brothers do. And my mother did this thing where she said, okay, Jeff, you Know, we should really let him be Raggedy Ann because he's, you know, he's in. And I thought I was. Honestly. Yeah. I had no idea what we were talking about. I don't know who that is. So she made some costumes, and there's Raggedy Andy, and I'm Raggedy Ann, and.

[Alan Tudyk]

No.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah.

[Alan Tudyk]

She followed through with it. Oh, yeah.

[Nathan Fillion]

She had a plan. Yeah. And I learned something that day, Alan. That Halloween day. Yes. In early 70s, mid-70s, I learned never to trust my mother and brother. Those diabolical.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah. I think that is always screw you. Did they openly laugh at you or do they go along with it?

[Nathan Fillion]

I don't know that they were openly laughing. I mean, listen, if you go back and look at the, you know, the photos from our family albums, you know, it's super cute and it's an amazing story, but how dare you?

[Alan Tudyk]

I always wanted a daughter. Oh. To this day, I can't date women with yarn hair.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah. So, like, I think the following year, she wanted to do Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse, and they tried the same trick, and I was not to be fooled. So there was two Mickey Mouses that year, and there was two Donald Ducks the next year. That was not working anymore. That little trick.

[Alan Tudyk]

Wow. Yes, I did. I did not know that about you. I did not know that about you.

[Nathan Fillion]

That is a fact. I think I have the photos to back that up. I know. I know I do.

[Alan Tudyk]

All right, here's my thing. Okay? I love laughter. I like comedy. I like laughter. But there are two laughs. And, like, there's a couple in another category, like three and four, that are a little concerning. But there are two laughs I do not accept as laughter.

[Nathan Fillion]

Okay?

[Alan Tudyk]

Now, yep, two types of laugh that I find offensive, one very offensive, and one just. Okay. One of them, I call it the X K S laugh, which is when people go, okay, that laugh is all about you. That's about the person making the sound saying, look at me, look at me, look at me. It's sort of a snide laugh. It's like, well, I guess I'm gonna laugh. I see what you did there. And everybody, look at me, look at me, look at me. I'm commenting on what you just did. That is supposed to make me laugh. And I'll give you this laugh. Now, I know that seems a little snooty. I get it. But dang it, it is not a laugh. It's not a genuine joyful laugh. It's got an opinion, and I don't like it.

[Nathan Fillion]

It's Been put on.

[Alan Tudyk]

It's been put on and I don't like it. And it's very much like, look at me, look at me, look at me. The other one in this one, man, it's. That is a hiss. That is you. You've heard boo. Hiss. That's a full on hiss. That's a. It will. If done in a theater setting or in an audience, somebody does that. It will quiet other laughter. It's a natural thing that people stop laughing because I've heard it happen. And it is a offensive. It is like, you might as well just go ahead and say boo and, like, let everybody know where you're living. Don't hide behind your little. It's snide, it's rude, and I don't appreciate it.

[Nathan Fillion]

I did.

[Alan Tudyk]

This is.

[Nathan Fillion]

I know, something that I clearly think about.

[Alan Tudyk]

I. Well, I've experienced it. I've experienced it. The S1 is really hard. That one's hard. That one's hard because I've seen it. I've been in theater settings where it's killed laughs, and it's like, you're ruining this. You're ruining it.

[Nathan Fillion]

I don't know that I've had any experience with that second laugh. I do know what you're talking about with that first lap. I've never quantified it, but you're right. I don't think it's about. It's not about the joke. It's not about sharing in the laughter. You know what I find often is some of them will say, that's funny. Yeah. Hey, thanks. But, yeah, how about just you, rather than tell me you just maybe chuckle a bit.

[Alan Tudyk]

That is the other. That's the other category. Those are the other two. One of them is that's funny. And you'll get it a lot from comics because comics do it with one another because they're craftsmen and they think about the jokes as, I don't know, as work or something. Where they can be like, well, that's funny.

[Nathan Fillion]

That's funny.

[Alan Tudyk]

From a. A place of authority or something. And, you know, I don't know if you're in a room and you're writing jokes with somebody or something and you're exchanging this punchline for that punchline. Oh, that one's funny. That one's funnier. I get it. Where it's taken out of context and it just becomes a thing and not the actual story. But for somebody to go, that's funny. It really comes off as snotty.

[Nathan Fillion]

Again, I'm talking about my mother and you know, my mom, we've talked about this before. You and you and she get along very well. She's. Yes, she's very funny. My running gag with my mom is when she's funny, I'll say, that was really funny. Like, I'm super surprised. And her answer is always, I'm very funny. I'm just saying that I'm perfect.

[Alan Tudyk]

The appropriate response.

[Nathan Fillion]

She makes me laugh a great deal.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah, she is very funny. And then the other within that same. Because there's one more. I have a lot of gripes, evidently, about laughter. I have a lot of opinions, lol. Of course, for somebody to say, oh, lol, that is. No, you're not lolling. That is not laugh out loud. If you laugh out loud, as you actually have a laugh out loud, that is some kind of spectator standing beside their life doing asides. They're like, they. It's like a restoration comedy where they turn to the audience and go, well, that is the kind of thing like they're not actually involved in their life. They're just going, lol. That isn't a laugh, Alan.

[Nathan Fillion]

I think because comedy's your business. You're a professional, I guess.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah, I have a lot of opinions about. I love comedy. I think that's what it is. I love it. So I respect it. And I do laugh a lot when somebody does something that's. Oh, I feel it so deeply when somebody's really funny. I love that. I love that feeling.

[Nathan Fillion]

I mean, I recognize the construction of humor. There's knowledge I've garnered over time where I say, hey, this is the punchline. This is the funny part. So you can't add more sentence onto the end of that. You're burying the punchline. So let's just flip this sentence around so you can start it like this. And then you end with the punchline, because that's right where the funny is. You don't want to keep talking after that, but your understanding of comedy and how it works. Listen, I admire you for a lot of reasons, and your expertise and how your brain functions is one of them. And so this is just an example of that. Alan.

[Alan Tudyk]

Okay, yes.

[Nathan Fillion]

This is a fantastic idea that you had. I don't mean to say, you know.

[Alan Tudyk]

I think it's, you know, it's a, it's a classic. Like if we had a call in show, right? That would be fun.

[Nathan Fillion]

Hey, guys, I'm John from Wisconsin. I've always wondered, longtime listener, first time caller. Yes, we have a list of questions here. We have a ton.

[Alan Tudyk]

We have so many. Some of them are so quick to answer, though, you know, like, there was one in here.

[Nathan Fillion]

This is Lindsay. This is from my Instagram. Someone slapped up a question for you on my Instagram. The question is, alan, you have so many allergies. If you could get rid of one, which one would you choose? Now I'm gonna add a little question to this. How do these people know about your allergies? Yeah.

[Alan Tudyk]

Well, you do interviews and stuff comes out. Recently, I started doing a podcast with my friend Nathan Fillion, and I seem to say all sorts of crap I wouldn't say in any interview, but it's he and I talking. I just let it all spill.

[Nathan Fillion]

I remember you saying that you have, like, a sensitivity to dairy because we were talking about the parmesan cheese thing. Right.

[Alan Tudyk]

Thank you for the question, Lindsay. There was a thing in Resident Alien where my character loved pizza, and it came out that what's ironic about that is of pizza, the best things about it are the. The crust and the cheese in the south. And of those three things, I can only eat the sauce. So my character was eating this bizarre pizza that was made of cauliflower crust and nut cheese. And it's not. It's like, nut. It's cheese made from, like, cashews, which I'm also allergic to. So it was. It was cheese made from something other than cashews, because I can't eat that stuff.

[Nathan Fillion]

If you could get rid of one allergy, Right? Wow.

[Alan Tudyk]

Peanut butter was really great. I loved that. Peanuts. I'm allergic to that. Probably eggs. Eggs, because they're in so many things and it's such a good breakfast. I would go with eggs, but I can't eat eggs. And it's right between eggs and eggs and gluten.

[Nathan Fillion]

That's so sad. I really love eggs.

[Alan Tudyk]

Rub it in, Nathan. Just rub it in.

[Nathan Fillion]

You know the secret to cooking eggs, Alan, is cook them real slow and then don't overcook them. Oh, my goodness. Okay. Okay, good.

[Alan Tudyk]

I'll never need that. A few years ago, you know, just suddenly was allergic to everything. It was wild. And maybe science one day will come up with a cure.

[Nathan Fillion]

What's left that you are not allergic to that. You really love coffee. Having some?

[Alan Tudyk]

No, this is my favorite food, coffee. You know, I can eat meats. You know, I'm not really a big meat eater, but I have to be gluten free bread. That's the thing. Like gluten free bread. They've. They've managed to figure that out on so many Levels. There is a pastry shop in Paris that does. It's a gluten free pastry shop. And you come in and there's a little concierge and he's like, bonjour. And he, and he has a little like a platter with him and they've got all of these pastries laid out all over the shop. And you come around and you look at the ones and it'll have it all listed out. Like, they have it in French and they'll have it in English also. Like, we made this with oat flour or a walnut flour or this kind of thing. And they say all the ingredients to how they made the thing. And they make French pastries, which are, of course, very good before you remove the gluten. They figured out how to make them very good with the gluten. And Carissa, luckily, she's allergic. I mean, I'm sorry that she's allergic to gluten as well. But luckily we both have the same affliction. And we went in there and we just bought up the whole shop and then just gorged ourselves and just had a diabetic issue. But it was, you know, I don't fault them. It was great.

[Nathan Fillion]

This allergy story had a happy ending. I like that.

[Alan Tudyk]

It did. So thank you, Lindsay, for that question. If I could, that would be it. Nathan, let me ask you a question, please. This is from Brady. Brady M. Brady M would like to know. I would love to hear a bit from Nathan about his time as Captain Hammer and Dr. Horrible. Sing along. What can you share with us about that special time during a writer strike, I believe it was.

[Nathan Fillion]

That's right. The writers were gonna prove to the producers we don't need you guys so much. So they came up with striketv.net and everybody was producing something. James Gunn did PG porn, which we were both involved in. We did those. Yes, yours was brilliant. It's one of my.

[Alan Tudyk]

I, I, Yeah, yours was the best. But yes, we're both fans of each other in that way.

[Nathan Fillion]

I will argue with this. Yours is brilliant. Your, your character breaks down at one point.

[Alan Tudyk]

I do cry. I cry in most of my roles, though, if you, if you haven't noticed that, you might notice it now.

[Nathan Fillion]

There's a wonderful film where you have a. Just, I don't want to say a cameo role because it seems integral.

[Alan Tudyk]

But he keeps coming back. You think he's gone. He.

[Nathan Fillion]

It's called Premature and it's one of these kind of high school coming of age.

[Alan Tudyk]

It is like groundhog's Day, but with premature ejaculation.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yes. So it's.

[Alan Tudyk]

Imagine that.

[Nathan Fillion]

Pitch me. Kind of teeny bopper humor. But Groundhog's Day, where the day keeps resetting. But you have a role in there as the college counselor.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yes.

[Nathan Fillion]

That piece that you did in that. I show that to people.

[Alan Tudyk]

I do.

[Nathan Fillion]

I show that is one of. You know, I love Tucker and Dale vs Evil. You're working that incredible. You. And this is another piece that you've done that I am just. I'm such a huge fan.

[Alan Tudyk]

Anyway, Nathan, you're. You're very generous. You've just mentioned two of my movies and how much you loved my roles in them.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah.

[Alan Tudyk]

This question is about you and your role. What was the question? Which you. Can I just say you're wonderful in this, so I can just try to equalize this a little bit. Dr. Horrible, sing along blog.

[Nathan Fillion]

Right. That was so much fun because when I first started out in the industry, I kind of had a hope and a dream as to what it would be like. And I was way off base. I wished it was like, hey, I got an idea. Let's make this. And it was a bunch of friends get together, and I got some costumes we can use, and we can use this old barn for a stage. And that would be a bunch of friends having good times and laughing and having fun. And. Not all jobs are like that, Alan. Not all jobs are like that.

[Alan Tudyk]

No.

[Nathan Fillion]

This great difference.

[Alan Tudyk]

Rarely like that.

[Nathan Fillion]

Exactly. But Dr. Horrible was exactly that. It was everybody pulling together to make this thing on a shoestring budget with, you know, little to no permits. And we lost the light at one point for this outdoor shot. And, like, a couple people just held up their iPhones for lighting Neil Patrick Harris's face as she. He's just griping down the street. And I mean, that's. That's how we. We did it. It was guerrilla filmmaking, if you will.

[Alan Tudyk]

But with Joss Whedon and you and Neil Patrick, I mean, it's so cool to have. Yeah, those are some good gorillas to have when you're walking around.

[Nathan Fillion]

And it was. It was great. And I remember we did a scene where. Had a little bit of a stunt where I was standing on top of a van that's careening down the street. Lay back, everyone. Nothing here to see. Just in a danger in the middle of it. Me. Yes. Captain Hammer's here. Hair blowing him the breeze. The day needs my saving expertise. And for this, they put you in a belt, and the belt is secured by some lines that go down into the van itself. So you are secured to the van. And if you stand up against it, you are solid. You're not going anywhere, which also means you're not going anywhere. So while, you know, between scenes, between shots, you. I just. You just have to stay up there on top of the van. And I remember taking a little nap up on top of the van on a beautiful day at the Universal lot on this kind of. They have a street there that they use for shooting. It looks like a little city and it's beautiful.

[Alan Tudyk]

He used the lot. So he, like, he's. Because this. I know Josh did this on his own dime. So he, like, paid for the. Paid for the lot, you said.

[Nathan Fillion]

That's where we were. We were at the Universal lot on there New York street of sorts. Not cheap, I don't think it was even. A week later, I was getting on a plane at the Burbank Airport. And as we're taking off, I look out the left side of the plane towards the south, towards Universal Studios to billowing black smoke. There was a fire. And I think the King Kong ride had an incident and it burned down. And that's like. The back end of the King Kong ride was the King Kong portion of the tram ride had burned down and that burned down New York Street. So we were the last thing to film on that New York street before they had a tremendous fire.

[Alan Tudyk]

Love started that fire. Not the. Not the beast. It was the. Whatever that last line is in that King Kong movie. The line is, it wasn't the airplanes. It was beauty that killed the beast.

[Nathan Fillion]

That's my little tidbit of Dr. Horrible. I had a lovely time. I met some really wonderful, wonderful people on that that I'm friends with to this day.

[Alan Tudyk]

Felicia Day also. I didn't mention her earlier in the Great Gorillas. Top gorillas of all time. It was so very cool. And it. And it. Hollywood then, like, woke up and went, oh, somebody finally figured out how to make money on the Internet. Because that. That's how long ago it was that.

[Nathan Fillion]

Somebody was Felicia Day. She had a whole thing out there on the Internet. And I remember Josh going to her saying, so, what do we do next? What's your opinion about this? And she. Because she really. Yeah, she'd done it all. Wow. Alan?

[Alan Tudyk]

Yes.

[Nathan Fillion]

Poster. Cheyenne wants to know, how do actors smoke in films? Are they using real cigarettes or are they using fake cigarettes?

[Alan Tudyk]

That's a great question. They're real. They're not real. It depends. I did a movie called Trumbo where there were some actors who decided to smoke their own cigarettes. And heck, I've smoked my own cigarettes in a little movie called 28 Days with Sandra Bullock. And I learned in that movie, don't smoke cigarettes if you can avoid it. Because the continuity of cigarettes, like when you're filmmaking, you do a wide shot and a closer shot and a close shot and angle from over there, an angle from over there, and you're in many shots. And so you can be spending four hours on one little one and a half minute scene. You're gonna smoke that same cigarette for four hours. So if you're taking a drag, you're gonna be taking a drag for four hours, and you make yourself sick. And the way that cigarettes work, nicotine, it's a drug. You just flood your system with nicotine. You feel sick, and then you want more cigarettes. So I. In 28 days, I have almost quit, and I was down to so few cigarettes. And I did that scene and I was like, back on, baby. I smoked in Resident Alien the last season. I played an evil. I played a different alien who smoked. And they give you these herbal cigarettes that you smoke that don't have any nicotine in them. They have marshmallow or something. It stinks. It really stinks. It smells like, I don't know, like a garbage fire. And you have to inhale them. And if I would jog after doing that, my lungs hurt. So you're still inhaling smoke. It's not good for you. But it doesn't make you addicted is the positive thing. So if you can avoid it, don't do it. If you're an actor out there who's thinking, it'd be really cool if I smoked here, be careful, you might regret it. That's what I say. Those are Hollywood secrets.

[Nathan Fillion]

Hollywood secrets. Brad Pitt often eats in scenes. And if you're, like, eating an apple, I don't know if you've ever had six apples. But it's rough on this gassy. Yeah, yeah.

[Alan Tudyk]

Nobody wants even Brad Pitt.

[Nathan Fillion]

You know, it's the pits.

[Alan Tudyk]

It's the pits. It's fighting up the set.

[Nathan Fillion]

I have worked out a little trick for eating on camera where I'll, you know, get like, a spoonful of food, a fork full of something, and go to eat it right before I say something. And then, so that it looks like my. My. My action was interrupted by a line. I'll time it in such a way. And then somebody else says something. And when it cuts back to me, I'm chewing. I'm pretending to Chew. So I never actually eat anything. And then the food on the plate in the prop department, it doesn't have to be reset because if you, if you do eat, they gotta come back in and reset the food and make sure you. Your bite has been replaced. Yeah, that kind of thing.

[Alan Tudyk]

I give them something to do. Yeah. I, I, I wish I had said. When you said it was the pits, I said the poots. Even Brad Pitt. That's the pits. Actually, it's the poots.

[Nathan Fillion]

Nathan, I have another question here. I know it's your turn, but I'm gonna go again. This is Amanda. Amanda, do you ever argue what, between the two of us about who's funnier? The answer. No. Alan.

[Alan Tudyk]

No.

[Nathan Fillion]

You're funnier. I acquiesce. Nathan, listen.

[Alan Tudyk]

I'm super funnier.

[Nathan Fillion]

I'll be the first to tell you.

[Alan Tudyk]

This is not true.

[Nathan Fillion]

Alan says listen when he's buying time to figure out what he's going to say next. Look. And Alan, I've stolen this. I, I know I've stolen this because I've listened to this podcast and I've done it many times, just recorded. I know I do it. I do it in real life. When I realized that's what you were doing, I said, that's actually a great way to buy some time. Tell them to listen. Listen.

[Alan Tudyk]

Listen. Well, that's. That's very generous. I say the same of you. And Joss Whedon would back me up that it is you. I got. I got people on my side.

[Nathan Fillion]

This is you being modest. It serves no one. Alan, no one's going to believe you.

[Alan Tudyk]

So, case in point. She just made me laugh. Sorry. So I get to.

[Nathan Fillion]

I get to.

[Alan Tudyk]

I get to. Now ask a question.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yes. Here we go.

[Alan Tudyk]

Nathan. Teresa. Trisa. Not. I know you're thinking. You're thinking of trisa26. This is from trisa24.

[Nathan Fillion]

Oh, thank you.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, this is trisa24. I'm gonna do a total Trisa. This is how she talks. Nathan, any fun stories? Isn't that a perfect Trisa 24?

[Nathan Fillion]

It's like listening to a mirror of. Yeah, Tris is looking into looking in.

[Alan Tudyk]

That you're listening to. Nathan, any fun stories to share from your time on Buffy? Oh, my gosh.

[Nathan Fillion]

I'm so glad you asked. It's Tristan. Like a. Like a little old lady who's, like, gripping a walker. I want her to. I want to get her a chair. Say, please sit down while I regale you with this story. I'm scared. You're gonna fall.

[Alan Tudyk]

Sorry, Trisa, that wasn't your voice. I apologize. You know, that was just me and some hijinks. Nathan, the highest answer about Buck.

[Nathan Fillion]

The highest of jinx. I'll tell you this. When I think about my time on Buffy, there was this big old fight scene that we had to do, and we had filmed all the bits with Sarah Michelle Gelder. I mean, she worked very hard on that show. So I think the idea was to film all her bits and then wrap it up for her and let her go home. So she left, and it was me and her stunt double, who was a petite little lady, very small, who would.

[Alan Tudyk]

Do, like, all her. Off camera for not off camera.

[Nathan Fillion]

Her literal. Her stunt double. This was her stunts. So she was very small, but. But very athletic. Really, like a solid little gymnast lady. And they said, all right, we need you to kind of grab her by the torso here and then slam her up against the roof with one hand. And I said, oh, I don't know that I can. And then I picked this lady up and I said, oh, yeah, I can do that. Yes, I can do that. They had this low ceiling, and she was little, and I spent the evening throwing this lady around the room, throwing her into that wall, slam her up.

[Alan Tudyk]

Into the ceiling, drop her over to.

[Nathan Fillion]

The thing, and she just would bone. Just bounce off things and pop right up. And it was like, you know when you go to a family gathering and there's a swimming pool and all the kids, like, throw me in the pool and you throw the kid in the pool. It was that. But throwing her into, you know, make believe brick walls.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah. Oh, that is. Yeah. Some people are made of different stuff, man. They are truly just. And they love it. They love it.

[Nathan Fillion]

Alan.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yes.

[Nathan Fillion]

Oswiz wants to know of all the roles you've played, which comes closest to who you are in real life?

[Alan Tudyk]

Wash. Easy answer. Thanks, Oswiz. And that's why I like Wash so much. I did a rewatch of Firefly last year with my wife. First time her. And I watched it together, and I love it more than I did back when we made it. I'll admit I had some. I had some. I had some issues when we were making it. I loved the show. I liked working on it, but I was like, what's this? Chinese?

[Nathan Fillion]

Well, you've mentioned this. Yeah, You've mentioned.

[Alan Tudyk]

I have, yeah. And when I watched it, we absolutely had to have Chinese. And it was awesome.

[Nathan Fillion]

So that's a lesson in humility, Alan. And that's also a marker of Your growth kind of looking back and saying, oh, how wrong I was.

[Alan Tudyk]

Speaking of growth, Doctor, would you take a look at this?

[Nathan Fillion]

That is not right. That is.

[Alan Tudyk]

That this is.

[Nathan Fillion]

Please don't show me that one that.

[Alan Tudyk]

I showed you before. It was the one I showed you before, but it's.

[Nathan Fillion]

Right now it's crusting over.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought was. That was.

[Nathan Fillion]

Does it have teeth? I think it's a twin girl. I think it's a twin. Oh, I see. I think you've got a joined. You've absorbed something. Ugh.

[Alan Tudyk]

Well, it's slowly working its way out. Oh, God. Okay. Anyway, that's disgusting. All right, well, do we have one final question?

[Nathan Fillion]

No.

[Alan Tudyk]

Here we go. Nathan.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah.

[Alan Tudyk]

Livy Star would like to know if you and I would consider taking this podcast on the road for a live show one day.

[Nathan Fillion]

I have two thoughts about that.

[Alan Tudyk]

Okay.

[Nathan Fillion]

Because when we do this sort of thing with a panel at a convention, and I've mentioned this before, it's a stacked deck. It's a very forgiving audience that will laugh at. They're ready to laugh, they're ready to go. They're pre warmed up. Everything Alan, that you have ever done that someone is a fan of is essentially an ambassador for you that goes there before you and has them all warmed up and ready to like you. And when you show up, it's easy peasy because. Yep. Of the ambassador that went before you.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yes.

[Nathan Fillion]

So on one side, I'm thinking that'd be great. We would be doing this stuff, but we'd have people laughing about it and people would laugh. And then my other thing is, people might say, if this were a podcast, I'd probably fast forward this bit.

[Alan Tudyk]

Ten seconds.

[Nathan Fillion]

Ten seconds.

[Alan Tudyk]

Ten seconds.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah.

[Alan Tudyk]

I hadn't thought of that. I know that people do that. People take podcasts on the road and I don't know what they do to, you know that they would have. I, I, they have people to interview. I've seen some with like an audio video. You know, I want stuff like that. You know, like, we could. I think we would have to work up a little bit of a show.

[Nathan Fillion]

If we do this. If we were to do this.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah.

[Nathan Fillion]

We would be then partially a visual medium at that point. We'd have a star. I would have you do the bit. I've never stopped thinking about this. The bit that you showed me about a play you were in where they were making a big, big movie, a big Cleopatra movie, and you were a young guy just trying to get your start and they said, you, you're gonna be one of the Fanning the slaves. Fanning Cleopatra.

[Alan Tudyk]

Fan the Queen. Fan the Queen, Yeah.

[Nathan Fillion]

You did a bit for me where that character, he's so happy that he's going to be the one fanning Cleopatra. And he's up there and he's chest out and he's just fanning so wonderfully, so dramatically, Fanning this Queen of Egypt. And then she demands that you go fetch the wine. Yes. You bow, you go down these long stairs and you get to the wine and you bring up the wine and up pop snakes. And she goes, ah. Asps.

[Alan Tudyk]

Guards.

[Nathan Fillion]

And the guards come over and kick the crap out of you.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yes.

[Nathan Fillion]

To which they say, cut, Cut. They got to do it again. And your guy kind of gets up struggling, gets back up the top. He doesn't know really what's going on in Fanning, but he's. He's clearly a little disheveled. Fetch me my wine.

[Alan Tudyk]

Huh?

[Nathan Fillion]

Me.

[Alan Tudyk]

You did this whole bit that I've.

[Nathan Fillion]

Tried to do for people to try to show them how brilliant you. And I would have you do that bit for an audience so that I could share this.

[Alan Tudyk]

There may be people out there who have done this play. It was called Epic Proportions. They do it in high schools now. Also. It was a good play for that. It was a 90 minute play with Kristin Chenoweth and Jeremy Davidson and Ruth Williamson and a bunch of cool people. Yeah. That was a big. It was a big physical, Big physical pit. I don't know. We'll have to figure something out. Man, I would love to do maybe one. I mean, we can't. There's a great Monty Python sketch. I did that play An Evening Without Monty Python, which sounds like a terrible idea because it's us doing Monty Python sketches, but without Python, nobody in it from Monty Python. Eric Idle directed it. He wrote a couple of new things. But there was a sketch that they did not do on camera. You can find it from live shows. It's one we could do. You could play the Pope. That would be the Cleese's role, where he says, bring in Leonardo da Vinci. Is he here? Yes. The last. Discuss the. The last.

[Nathan Fillion]

I love that.

[Alan Tudyk]

And he's like, are you Leonardo Adventure? Yeah. Hello. Hello. He's like this cockney. What was it? You didn't like the. You didn't like the Jello? I'll take it out, don't worry. Paint it out. Describing a painting you can't see.

[Nathan Fillion]

What's the problem? Well, there's three of Them. Yeah, well, the fat one balances out the two skinny ones.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah, I see. Now we can't use these because we've discussed them, so. You know what, Libby Starr, we're gonna work out something. If we do it live, there's gonna be a live physical element to it. We'll just have to work that out, Alan.

[Nathan Fillion]

So are you saying we're gonna do this? Are you saying we should arrange.

[Alan Tudyk]

Well, if we do, this should be a little bit of a show. You know, if we do this should be a little bit of a show.

[Nathan Fillion]

I'll save this album. If I did a podcast episode live with you on stage in front of an audience in the theater. And I would be so pleased to do Monty Python sketches with you to watch a one man show of you just doing your bits and me reading all the other parts from epic proportions. I would love the opportunity to work with you on stage. I would be up for that. I'm just saying right now.

[Alan Tudyk]

All right, one thing I know that I've always talked about doing, and I would absolutely do it with you, brother. Absolutely. Something I always did. I kept pitching to John Lasseter at Disney that King Candy. I would do King Candy sings Vaudeville. All these great old vaudeville songs that are like comedy songs. Like, the book is so much better than the picture or I'm the kind of guy who sings something awful. I could. I would love to finally maybe live sing one of those songs, because.

[Nathan Fillion]

How about a medley?

[Alan Tudyk]

Oh, yeah. Oh, God, yes. We could get John Dinerstein, who did the musical for Con man, and he.

[Nathan Fillion]

Could say this all plans. King Candy arrange this as King Candy.

[Alan Tudyk]

We could. All right, I've got his plan. We could get John Dynestein. He could do the piano because he tinkles the ivories and I'm not talking about piss. He makes a beautiful music because I could sing the songs and go from one to another to another. It's called a medley, and I can do them all. Let's do it. Let's do it. Yes. Okay.

[Nathan Fillion]

I am betting right now, everybody at Collision33 who's presently listening to us record. This is going. Oh, great. Now we're gonna have to arrange this.

[Alan Tudyk]

It's a lot of work. And now I gotta hire a pianist, but not the act kind. Yeah. So thank you for asking that question. And thank you to everyone who asked questions and sent those in. They were great.

[Nathan Fillion]

I think this is a. This is a little segment I think we could do more than once. I think we should hang on to some of these questions. And maybe continue to peruse our social medias for more questions that people might ask.

[Alan Tudyk]

For all the fans who sign up for Patreon, you are the guys who get to ask questions because you're our favorites. Not to play favorites, but I feel like there should be, like, benefits with membership kind of thing. That's a good benefit.

[Nathan Fillion]

I agree. I agree. I'm not.

[Alan Tudyk]

So if you're on Patreon, we care about you just as much as everyone else, but a little bit more.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yeah, you're our favorite. We're not anybody.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah.

[Nathan Fillion]

Yes.

[Alan Tudyk]

So that.

[Nathan Fillion]

Alan. I've listened to a couple of our podcasts.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah, me too.

[Nathan Fillion]

You are very entertaining.

[Alan Tudyk]

As are you, sir.

[Nathan Fillion]

I always enjoy the time we spent. I always enjoy this, this. This time that we get to spend and laugh and just talk about it. And it's like, hey, I gotta go to work. My hands are tied. I have to do this. I really enjoy that we have to do this.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah, man. It's cool. Yeah. We have a playdate set up. It's like we've got parents and they have set us up on a playdate every week. We gotta make that playdate.

[Nathan Fillion]

Just send us into a little too rambunctious playpen of some kind just to burn us out a little bit.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yeah, yeah.

[Nathan Fillion]

Work off some of that. Peanut butter.

[Alan Tudyk]

Peanut butter. Peanut butter and jelly. Peanut butter jelly sandwich. Best sandwich ever. Oh, my God. On a white bread. Forget about it. I'll keep the crusts on. Thank you very much. Best peanut butter jif. Okay, now I'm done.

[Nathan Fillion]

What side of the sandwich should be first? The sharp corners or the rounded bits?

[Alan Tudyk]

Sharp corners of the round.

[Nathan Fillion]

Like the bottom of the bread or the top. The bottom corners. The bread that sits in the. In the.

[Alan Tudyk]

Oh, I see, I see, I see. Oh, top.

[Nathan Fillion]

The top. You go for the rounded top.

[Alan Tudyk]

What tin? What tin?

[Nathan Fillion]

When they bake bread, they bake bread in a little pan and it. It comes like Bill is out the top, but at the bottom it's.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yes, squared off butter top. That's a butter top. They split that butter right up. Sweet Jiminy. Right up the crack. We spread it in the butter. That makes it salty, tasty. God damn. One day the science will catch up and we're going to cure all these food allergies.

[Nathan Fillion]

Till then, I'll just enjoy those sandwiches and describe them to you.

[Alan Tudyk]

Yes. Thank you. Thank you very much. Oh, my God. Thank you for listening. You just bless your heart. You know what, if you haven't yet, why don't you head on over to our Patreon. You're gonna get some bonus content. That's extra content. They're longer episodes. There's more there. You know what's better than less? More. You also get a chance to get your hands on some incredible crap. The kinds you don't need to wash off after you're done. And if you love the show, please leave us a review and tell your friends. Once We Were spaceman is a collision 33 production. The hell that is. The show's produced by Michelle Chapman. Siobhan Holman. Oh, yeah. And Josh Levy. I wear them jeans. He is of collision 33. It's all starting to make sense. It's edited and mixed and produced by Resident Records, with special thanks to Courtney Plumquist and Adam Town Self. Our theme music's done by Carlos Sosa. The groove line, Horn Sky. Yeah. And Joshua Moore. Artwork is done by Lewis Jensen. Until next time. I swear to God, I love you. No, you're not lolling.