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Molly Quinn
There was this time when I was going to eat an ice cream sundae. I don't know if you remember.
Nathan Fillion
Oh, my God, how great.
Molly Quinn
But yes. And I was like, I'm going to wait. I'm going to wait. I didn't eat anything all day. I'm just thinking about this ice cream sundae. I get to set and I see it sitting on the. On the little side table. Giant scoops of vanilla ice cream, a nice banana chocolate sauce on top, Right? And I have to get through this talking scene with Nathan before I can have a scoop of this delicious, delicious sundae. My mouth is watering. I'm speeding through this scene with Nathan. I take a bite, and something is very wrong.
Alan Tudyk
It's mashed potatoes.
Molly Quinn
Oh, no. It was mashed potatoes.
Alan Tudyk
Cause ice cream melts.
Molly Quinn
Yes.
Nathan Fillion
Once we were spacemen.
Alan Tudyk
Spacemen.
Nathan Fillion
I tend to play weird people, usually aliens and robots and things that don't have romance.
Alan Tudyk
I once didn't get a job where they were looking for a Nathan Fillion type. Once we were spacemen.
Nathan Fillion
Once we were spacemen.
Alan Tudyk
Alan, do the thing.
Nathan Fillion
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Once We Were Spacemen. We are still spacemen, and we're talking to a bum man who is here in our podcasting space with spaceman Nathan. Billy and Alan Tudyk, ladies and gentlemen. We would love to say hello. That kind of ended bad. I feel like that. Yeah, you were doing great.
Alan Tudyk
I don't know what happened towards the end. It's like you lost confidence.
Nathan Fillion
I did. I don't know. I'm sorry, Molly. I fell apart.
Alan Tudyk
This is a first. This is once we were spaceman first.
Molly Quinn
Is it because I haven't been to space yet? Does it hurt, your insight?
Nathan Fillion
Well, you're in our podcast space, and we're always a little spacey, so in that way, you should.
Molly Quinn
I'm a space hopeful.
Nathan Fillion
Yes. And you make it.
Alan Tudyk
I love that you said yet. I love that you're on the yet side of it.
Molly Quinn
I'm still young.
Alan Tudyk
Molly Quinn, welcome.
Molly Quinn
Thank you.
Alan Tudyk
Molly Quinn, I met you when you were 14 years old.
Molly Quinn
Yes.
Alan Tudyk
What is your first memory of our meeting?
Molly Quinn
Oh, my first memory of our meeting in person. Okay. Well, before that, I had watched all of Firefly and Waitress like, the night before.
Alan Tudyk
Wow.
Molly Quinn
So I was so locked in on you.
Alan Tudyk
You were steeped.
Molly Quinn
I was steeped. Very happily so. I just. I was already, like. I was already picking up on how warm you were. Like, I already felt so comfortable with you. And I remember the casting associate opening the door for me, and you were sitting in A chair next to the, you know, camcorder with maybe four people behind you, like in a little stage.
Alan Tudyk
This was the audition to play Alexis Castle.
Molly Quinn
Yes. This was the callback to play Alexis Castle.
Alan Tudyk
Oh, there was one before this?
Molly Quinn
Oh, yes, absolutely. There might have been two before it, but yes, this was the callback, the chemistry read, to check how our chemistry as father, daughter would look on screen.
Nathan Fillion (closing credits)
Right.
Nathan Fillion
That's a big one.
Molly Quinn
Even though you read off camera anyway, they open the door, you stand up immediately and you put out your hand, your giant hand, and you're like, hello, I'm Nathan Fillion. What's your name? And I was like, I'm Molly. And you were. You met all my expectations. It just felt like I knew you. I just. It felt like, you know, I'm so sorry it's so cheesy, but it felt like coming home.
Alan Tudyk
You're right, it's cheesy. When we. We were auditioning for all the other roles, so we were auditioning for Kate Beckett, we were auditioning for Alexis, and we were auditioning for the mother, Castle's mom. What was her name again?
Molly Quinn
Martha.
Alan Tudyk
Martha. Thank you. Martha's. And I said, I'll come in and read. And they said, oh, really great. And there was a lot of ladies coming through. It was a lot of auditions. And it's very interesting to be in the room for that part of the process. Some of it is incredibly frustrating, but everybody in there just wants it to be over and just wants to find the person and just wants it to be a certainty, you know, everybody just wants it to, like, there it is. That's the one. Perfect. We all agree. Great. Good. Let's just. And Molly came in and handled her business. I have auditioned enough times to know I have been terrible at it. Molly did not have that problem. She left the room after auditioning and everybody just quietly just looked at each other like, why wide eyed, do we need to say it? And then the catcher, she got on the phone, she goes, I'm calling her agent right now. Boop, boop, boop, boop. She had the job within 30 seconds of leaving the room.
Nathan Fillion
Wow.
Alan Tudyk
And we still had to read other people for the role. They were still there. I remember feeling so badly for them.
Molly Quinn
It was steep competition. It was incredible. People going out for all those roles. It's so cool that you got to build a family, you know, you got to build what you thought would be the best TV family. And. And thank you so much for. For saying that, because I just was. Thank God this worked. Out. Because I just felt connected to you. And after that chemistry read, there was one more audition I did have to go to to abc. Me and I think a couple other girls as well. It was really tough. Everyone wanted the. This job. Everyone wanted this. Yes, yes. It was a test. Same scene, which I found a little surprising. I was like, I wonder if you become an adult, do they start giving you different scenes? Because at this point, I haven't had to remember this. I mean, I don't know what they want. I've done this four times.
Alan Tudyk
Yeah, I don't know that there was any. I mean, from your end, I'm certain it looked like there was competition, but from our end, there was no question. There was not a thing. There was another lady who came in and, I mean, she looked young. It was like, is your mommy gonna come pick you up? But she was in her mid-20s.
Molly Quinn
Oh, my gosh.
Alan Tudyk
She was playing 14 and successfully. So it was odd and crazy and weird, but she's got a lot of experience. She's an accomplished actress.
Nathan Fillion
Jennifer Aniston. We should say her name. Jennifer Aniston. She looked great.
Molly Quinn
Her and I actually talked about it when we were shooting. We're the Millers. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Sorry I had to bring it up, because again, how lucky am I? How lucky am I? Well, thank you. Thank you, Nathan.
Alan Tudyk
And then we went off to New York City because the pilot for Castle, although Castle was filmed in la, the pilot was filmed in New York.
Molly Quinn
Yes.
Alan Tudyk
And one of the adventures we had. Alan, I think. Yes, Alan. We did this in Los Angeles. It was a little play called Accomplice that Neil Patrick Harris introduced me to, where you call for tickets and you get a phone call and some guy goes, hey, I want you to meet me by the big red anchor down in South Street Seaport. All right? Don't be a wise ass. You'd be there at 3 o'. Clock. And that's how you start the play.
Nathan Fillion
So you're not in a theater, you're just at your home. When this guy.
Alan Tudyk
You went down to the South Street Seaport.
Molly Quinn
Yes.
Alan Tudyk
And to the big red anchor. And this fella came up and said, psst, come with me. And takes you to an alley.
Nathan Fillion
I'm your Tinder date for the night.
Alan Tudyk
Tinder wasn't a thing back then, Alan.
Nathan Fillion
Oh, well, sorry. Right, right, right.
Alan Tudyk
We're back years, years before Tinder would come into play. But that started this adventure throughout the lower part of Manhattan, across the Brooklyn Bridge, Chinatown, Little Italy. It was. It was an Adventure.
Molly Quinn
Yes. And I had never been anywhere. Okay. I was 14. I was from a town called Texarkana. Called Texarkana.
Nathan Fillion
Really?
Molly Quinn
Yes. Alan, we're both Texans.
Nathan Fillion
Oh, my God. Redheaded Texans in the sun State. Such as Honey State.
Molly Quinn
I looked up to you. I mean, watching a nights tank, truly, I was like, I can do that. There's a place for me in Hollywood.
Nathan Fillion
Oh, how wild.
Molly Quinn
I always wanted to tell you that.
Alan Tudyk
But they'll take gingers.
Molly Quinn
Yes, they'll take gingers. It's so difficult, but, you know, just I had never been anywhere. I wanted to act and I wanted to travel. So to get this job of just the pilot at that point of Castle and then to be flown to New York City.
Nathan Fillion
City, wow.
Molly Quinn
Yeah.
Nathan Fillion
From Texarkana.
Molly Quinn
From Texarkana. Nothing in between. Right? Like a little time in la.
Nathan Fillion
Yeah.
Molly Quinn
But, you know, that was just in and out of casting rooms, so barely a life. And we go on this interactive play. Nathan just says, molly, come on, I'm taking the cast and we're gonna go on an adventure, I think is what you called it. To see these really cool actors and to see all of New York City and to really feel like we were solving a mystery. It was so show within a show within a show. It definitely didn't mess me up at all. I have a very firm grip on reality, but it was the best. It was the best time. I love that you let me see the city without you. Without that, I would have just been in the hotel room I would have gone to see, but I wouldn't have known how to explore. So thank you. Thank you for that, for just making it more than work, for giving us time to bond, because I'm sure you were tired too.
Alan Tudyk
Not yet. I was still young and youthful and had some energy, but I still work with Bill Rowe, who was DPing for those things. Our director for the pilot, Rob. I've still known him for many years.
Molly Quinn
Love Rob.
Alan Tudyk
Both of those guys. Still talk about a scene we did in the pilot of Castle where it's the two of us chatting. We're doing baby bird hits from the whipped cream canister, but eating whipped cream out of the canister. And they needed us to go down a hallway, but they needed us both facing in the same direction, but connected. And Rob needed light to hit your face from this side door. As we passed it, he's like, so, what's the solve here? And I grabbed ahold of you and I said, we're gonna do this. We'll do this little spin. And I Put you in front, you were in your socks. And I said, now slide. And you put your feet out and I started sliding you down the hallway as we're just having this nice, lovely little chat.
Molly Quinn
That's right.
Alan Tudyk
And what struck me immediately about you, Molly, and I've told you this before, but now I'm telling Alan and I'm telling everybody else, was that even at 14 years old, Molly was an incredibly capable, adaptable, flexible, attentive, conscientious actor. There was nothing I could do that would throw her off. I could come up with an idea and say, let's try this. And she'd say, I'm on it. Or while we're doing the take and filming it, I'd try something new. And she was always on it. Nice. There was no throwing Molly. You couldn't surprise her. You couldn't shock her. She was always in the moment. She was always prepared.
Nathan Fillion
Well, because when you throw her, she goes down. She gets bruises. That's what her stunt people are for. No throwing Molly. Sorry, I apologize. Go on, Molly.
Molly Quinn
No, it's true. I'm very bruisable. You know this as a pale. As a pale listener person. Yes, yes. Thank you. Thank you, Nathan. It was, you know, I trust you. I trust you.
Alan Tudyk
And that was your first mistake.
Molly Quinn
You know, it might have been a mistake, but it's the best mistake I've ever made. Because from there to then, you know, our 17 years plus of friendship, you know, at this point, it's. It's a lot. And one thing I have to say, so as a fan of Once We Were Spacemen, I really enjoy. I really enjoy yalls use of sound effects. Oh, thank you. So for this, I have to say I wanted to pitch something which was Castle Chats.
Nathan Fillion
Yep, I think that's happening.
Alan Tudyk
I think it's gonna happen.
Molly Quinn
Yes. Castle Chats.
Nathan Fillion
Can we get a drawbridge sound, though?
Alan Tudyk
Also.
Nathan Fillion
A drawbridge opening for the Castle Chats. And then when we're done with Castle Chats, we do a closing drawbridge. So this is. We're still chatting. So the ca.
Alan Tudyk
The drop is down, the drawbage is open.
Molly Quinn
Yeah.
Alan Tudyk
Great. Thank you, Mom.
Molly Quinn
I loved that opportunity. The hallway scoot, as I call it in my brain, I loved. Because we came into that setup, Martha was on a date. The date is a silver fox playing the piano. And they were like, okay, we gotta get them down the hall. And they need to have this scene, this talk. Cause we're also having a conversation. And you just spun me and started pushing. And I was like, yeah, this is how I would hang out. This is, you know, the type of fun that I want to have in the real world. And that's what was always great. It felt like we were really showing people what a sweet father daughter relationship looked like.
Alan Tudyk
It's true. Castle was an annoying character. And I think that was. That was the. That was. I think we all know somebody in our lives who everybody likes that guy, but they annoy us. Oh, why don't you like him? He's great. Rubs me the wrong way. For whatever reason, we've all got somebody that everybody seems to like, dig. But you're like, that was my goal, was to be liked kind of thing by everyone, but entirely annoying. To the Kate Beckett character, the saving grace for Castle, what made him likable was when he went home, he was not in charge. It was his mother and his daughter who ruled the roost.
Molly Quinn
That's right.
Alan Tudyk
He lived for them. That was his redeeming quality. And Molly was always extremely good at creating moments that spoke of a loving history. Moments that this isn't the first time they've done this. That these are two people that have been together their entire lives. These are two people that entirely trust each other. These are two people. Molly was always very, very good at creating those moments.
Molly Quinn
Well, there's nothing better to promote, to me at least, than strong familial bonds. It's such a special thing if you have it, you know, it just. Nothing feels warmer. And so with you taking that opportunity and, you know, also, it helped that so many of our scenes were in the kitchen. You know, especially in season one when I was, like, you know, 15, we were always in the kitchen. We were having chats over breakfast, or Martha was making dinner. And back then, you know, the food was so, so good. Is it okay if I tell a story about the food of Castle?
Alan Tudyk
Please, Castle.
Nathan Fillion
Door's open. Cassidy. The drawbridge is down.
Molly Quinn
Great. So, you know, I'm 14. We're gonna do one of these breakfast scenes. They asked me, you know, what kind of cereal do you like? And I was like, special K. It's my favorite. They put a big bowl of Special K in front of me, and I'm eating it the whole way through the scene. All right, great. Take two. You gotta eat the same amount. I didn't know that. I didn't know. So I'm there, and it goes through the third one. And so finally, I learned this less slowly, that if there's something written into the scene that I want to eat, I'm going To, you know, kind of take a break during the day until I can eat that food.
Nathan Fillion
You got to pace yourself on that one. You're going to.
Alan Tudyk
Yeah. My secret to eating on camera is you take a fork full of food and you bring it up to your mouth before you say a line, and then you say your line. And when someone else is talking, the camera's going to cut away. I just put the fork down and pretend I'm chewing.
Molly Quinn
When they come back to me, I'm taking notes. I'm. I'm taking notes for next time.
Nathan Fillion
Could have. Could have let her know this earlier,
Alan Tudyk
because otherwise, they gotta reset all the props. They gotta reset all the food. If you take a sip, they're gonna pour it back in there.
Molly Quinn
I like it. I like when they do that. That's like, the magic to me. There was this time when I was gonna eat an ice cream sundae. I don't. I don't know if you remember.
Nathan Fillion
Oh, my God, how great.
Molly Quinn
But yes. And I was like, I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna wait. I didn't eat anything all day. I'm just thinking about this ice cream sundae. I get to set, and I see it sitting on the little side table, giant scoops of vanilla ice cream, a nice banana chocolate sauce on top, right? And I have to get through this talking scene with Nathan before I can have a scoop of this delicious, delicious sundae. My mouth is watering. I'm speeding through this scene with Nathan. I take a bite, and something is very wrong.
Alan Tudyk
It's mashed potatoes.
Molly Quinn
Oh, no. It was mashed potatoes.
Alan Tudyk
Cause ice cream melts.
Molly Quinn
Yes. I think I had, like, a final line or something, but my eyes just looked like a betrayed, kicked puppy that, like, had to shut down.
Alan Tudyk
Oh, that's great.
Molly Quinn
Oh, my God. And I think about these things, right? They don't know ice cream on tv.
Alan Tudyk
Hollywood secrets.
Molly Quinn
Hollywood secrets.
Alan Tudyk
She does listen.
Molly Quinn
I do listen.
Nathan Fillion (closing credits)
Yay.
Alan Tudyk
Thank you. Your part got bigger and bigger over the years. They gave you more and more responsibilities. They relied on you more and more. You had entire. You had your own episodes. You went to Paris.
Molly Quinn
I went to Paris again.
Alan Tudyk
Without me?
Molly Quinn
Well, you should have been there.
Alan Tudyk
I agree.
Molly Quinn
You should have been there. Your lovely stunt performer was there, and he. Such a nice guy. We had a really nice time in Paris. But I did miss you. I know. I missed you every day. And what an experience to share with Rob Bowman. Like, that's really who I remember. I was doing that with Rob, and it was fun to bounce around on the show as well, but kind of sticking on Paris and sticking on this idea of like, I had so much wanderlust as a kid. That's why I wanted to act. I wanted to time travel on top of traveling. Right. I want it all.
Alan Tudyk
How cool.
Molly Quinn
How cool. And to be trusted with that responsibility to go to another country to work with a French crew who was fantastic. But it was different. We had siesta lunches. I'll never forget that. I'll never forget Rob Bowman being just like, I want to shoot, and they're taking these long lunches. But then he was so happy with the footage we were getting, he was drunk.
Nathan Fillion
Because the siesta lunch is just wine, I think, is part of it.
Molly Quinn
See, I was too good. I was such a goody two shoes. I was just waiting and sitting in those beautiful cafes, and it was just. It's still one of the greatest gifts of my life. Of my life.
Nathan Fillion
Yeah. That's magic. That is fantastic.
Molly Quinn
It was fantastic magic. And it was cool to have that responsibility of getting up on time and being there, having to assimilate into a different crew. And again, yeah. I just. I'm so grateful that all of you trusted me to do that and gave me things to do, because sometimes I got to, you know, play with Lainey in the morgue. Right. And we would run into each other on cases as well. And I really loved how they. They were really taking this idea of Alexis Castle as this girl to woman who income wasn't a question, but. But she was incredibly smart, so she could try all these different things. She felt like a superhero to me. And getting to interweave with all of our great co stars as well. I just wish I'd gotten to do even more of that. I remember the stunts getting. Talking about stunts and bruising getting more full on as well. As I started interweaving with the adult storylines, there was like a shootout in the precinct. It's funny to think about for 10 years of my life. And like those. Those last five, the amount of people coming up and showing me rubber guns and saying, this is not a real gun here. You can check the chamber. Here's what it is. This is rubber glass. When we exploded, it's going to feel like a bullet went through it and it's going to break apart, but, you know, it doesn't feel like anything. It was so cool to be on a show that had so many opportunities to have adventure.
Nathan Fillion
Can I ask you, how old were you when you were in Paris? How old were you? You talk about that responsibility Yeah, I
Molly Quinn
believe I was 18. So I was, I really thought I was an adult back then. At 18, I thought I was an adult. Of course, 32. I do not feel like an adult. I feel like I was so silly. So silly.
Alan Tudyk
I'm going to tell you right now, at 18, you were an adult. My nieces were approximately the same age as you at the same time. That was my bar. As to calculating where you are, maturity wise and intellect wise and whatnot. I'm going to say you were extremely advanced at an extremely young age.
Molly Quinn
You're too nice.
Alan Tudyk
And every time I saw you, like, oh, I took up a new class. I'm now taking the mandolin. And oh, oh, I'm also doing this. And oh, I'm learning this. I'm taking another acting teacher.
Molly Quinn
Yeah.
Alan Tudyk
Added to the six I already take.
Molly Quinn
And I treated myself like an Elizabethan gentlewoman. I was embroidering and violin lessons and mandolin lessons. Oh, yeah. I was doing all the extracurriculars. I could get my little paw.
Alan Tudyk
You were on a path of relentless self improvement and just learning. Always, always learning. And I was always shaking my head. Now, here's a confession. You would at times share with me your life. You'd say, yeah, I'm doing this and doing that. And I'm not gonna lie, because you were advanced. But some of the things you were talking to me about were adult stuff. And I was. My brother's daughters would tell him everything. And I said, what's the secret? How do you get them to be so open? And he said, the key is when they tell you something you don't want to hear, don't react. And that was difficult sometimes.
Molly Quinn
Molly, wait a minute. What are we talking about?
Nathan Fillion
Were you poaching? I'm just. Can I guess?
Alan Tudyk
Molly would talk to me about dating, and Molly would talk to me about, you know, just different life choices and stuff like that. And I'm going,
Nathan Fillion
yeah, you were dating a circus performer who was also a pimp.
Molly Quinn
Oh, my gosh. I mean, basically, Alan. Yes, that is kind of what I was doing. I made some bad choices. And Nathan, I, it was always so kind that I could talk to you because that face of Placid could help me say, oh, maybe I need to bail.
Alan Tudyk
I was pinching my leg sometimes.
Molly Quinn
I, I, I, I'm so sorry. You have a little bald patch on your, on your thigh where you've been pulling out the hair through the jeep.
Alan Tudyk
Well, here's the thing.
Molly Quinn
Well, I made you go bald. I did it. I made you go bald.
Alan Tudyk
I was happier that you had someone to talk to about things.
Molly Quinn
Thank you.
Alan Tudyk
Than I would have been if you had felt alone in those moments. So.
Molly Quinn
I love you so much, you know.
Alan Tudyk
I love you too, Molly.
Molly Quinn
I wish I had shared more with you. I think I could have been so much more open with you.
Alan Tudyk
I don't think I could have taken it. I'm gonna tell you. Right.
Nathan Fillion
Talk about the poaching. You were poaching elephant tusks. I just.
Alan Tudyk
Listen, the ivory trade was huge.
Molly Quinn
Listen. Hollywood secrets.
Nathan Fillion
That's right.
Molly Quinn
Yeah. That was the funny thing of, you know, coming from a small town, not having any family anywhere near the entertainment industry. And my parents just didn't know what to do. They didn't know what to do and they didn't really like LA. So as soon as I was 18, they were really gone. They really didn't know how to engage. And I did my best. And part of that, thank goodness, is because of Nathan and because of Castle and having that structure and it's, it's fun growing up in la and I'm really glad to like be here now and be able to engage with both of you about, you know, this wild industry and acting and conventions, which is a new thing I'm really excited to be stepping into.
Alan Tudyk
Molly and I are going to a convention together this summer.
Nathan Fillion (closing credits)
Okay.
Molly Quinn
I'm so grateful to you, Nathan. Nathan really helped me get into this. I'm so excited to start engaging because one of my favorite things, you know, when I'm out and about is when people come up and usually what they say is, oh, you know, my daughter, you went to so and so high school. And I go, no, no, I think you might have seen me in your living room, but like on your tv. And it always takes that, that moment of, of disbelief and then they, they click in and it always just, it warms my heart. Like I love it. I love everything that, that Castle's given me. I'm just incredibly grateful.
Alan Tudyk
Alan, all three of us have shared experience as far as being actors in this industry and experiencing a little bit of success in Los Angeles, a city that can be pretty tough, but pretty wonderful. Kind to you. But Allan and I will never know what it's like to be a 14 year old girl experiencing that.
Nathan Fillion
Yeah, I, I know, I know actresses who were in their 20s who were given responsibilities in film. I thought of this, I won't say names. These are, these are just, I don't know, this is a talking at a school, maybe a school bell there. Yeah, Talking out of school. Of an actress of a movie I was not in. So if you want to look at my bio and go, I bet it was this person. People I knew were in this movie with this person. They were shooting in Italy and they needed her on set and she didn't show up on set. And they called to say, be like, where are you? And she's like, I'm in Paris.
Molly Quinn
Oh my God.
Nathan Fillion
I followed a band here. I'm going to just be here for another few days and I'll be back.
Alan Tudyk
Whoops.
Nathan Fillion
And that my heart. She didn't have your sense of responsibility to the job and it definitely affected her in the career. So, you know, I saw you being like, no, I, you know, I wasn't that. I, you know, thank you, thank you. But you, that isn't something that most people have and it says a lot about you. That's great because it's hard as shit. It might have been fun, but it's also hard. It's actual work.
Molly Quinn
It is actual work. It is, it is actual hours. And thank you. I mean, thank you for saying that coming from you, that really means an extra deal. For me being a child actor, it saved my life. It gave me a life. I am so I cannot tell you how grateful, how much I love acting, how much I love being on set and the places I get to go. And hey, when you get to be on stage too, isn't that fun when you get to do that every now and then? Yeah, I just, I love how, I love that we make people feel better. I love that we make people feel through doing entertainment. You know, I just, I was raised by television. I watched long form television, you know, and movies. It gave me comfort and it opened up the world. So to be in a position where I'm getting to do that, where like I pinch myself every day because I am living the dream. And that some girl in, in Texas or some boy is also inspired and wants to do it. And now with self taping, they really can. And, and by the way, for me, self tape, that's the only way I got out of Texarkana. My first like job, the first thing that I booked, we were sending DVDs through FedEx.
Nathan Fillion
Wow.
Molly Quinn
You know. For a Disney pilot when I was 13, 12 even. I think I was 12. Jesus. And that's how. Yeah, that's how I got my agent, the Osbrink Talent Agency, which I'm so grateful to them. If it wasn't for self tape.
Nathan Fillion
Can we just get a plug for that?
Molly Quinn
What is the name of Them Osbrink Talent Agency. They were so good to me.
Nathan Fillion
We're going to give that plug. Get that plug out of there. Thank you.
Molly Quinn
Get the plug out.
Nathan Fillion
Yes. They were good to me.
Molly Quinn
Wait, wait. Okay, there's mine.
Nathan Fillion
Bless you. Bless you.
Alan Tudyk
Now, Molly, having had the experience of being on a television program, a well liked television program for nearly a decade, you're working there your day to day. It's a bit of a grind. You're in a bubble. You kind of forget at times that there's people out there watching. But when you're walking down the street and someone comes up to you and goes, you were in Castle. And have you had the experience where they say, you were in Castle? And here's what it meant to me. Here's what it meant to my family. Do you get that?
Molly Quinn
I do. But the way I receive it, the way it comes to me is they think I'm their daughter, they think I'm part of their family and they wanna hug the amount of women, the amount of older women. And I always love it. Especially when they're ginger and they look at me and they go, people told me I could have been your mom. And I get to say, I see it. I love that. I love that. And when they talk about their kids, I'm like, yeah, I bet we would have been friends. I really, I love people. It makes me happy to be kind and to be in a position where I have so many things to be kind about. I love it.
Nathan Fillion
Yeah, it's cool when people come up to you. There's that feeling where you have to, to meet people, especially if you love people, that people are actually breaking that, you know, that social thing and coming to you with their hand out and being like, I need, I'm sorry, I need to talk to you real quick.
Molly Quinn
Yes.
Nathan Fillion
How cool that they're coming in. Yeah, well.
Molly Quinn
And coming to your life. Yes. It comes from a place. This is. I'm sure, I'm sure I've told Nathan this before, but we had just done the pilot and I had done a movie called A Christmas Carol. And it was premiering at the Cannes Film Festival. And I got the opportunity to go and while I was there, I got invited to these parties, got to go on a big yacht. And Orlando Bloom was across this yacht
Alan Tudyk
name drop.
Molly Quinn
And I'm the only like 14, 15 year old girl.
Nathan Fillion
Oh, wow.
Molly Quinn
I had no parents. I was like with the production. I had gone by myself.
Nathan Fillion
Wow.
Molly Quinn
And there's Orlando Bloom in a billowy white shirt. And you gotta think this is the time of Lord of the Rings and Pirates of the Caribbean. These were happening at the same time. Basically, both things I was a massive, massive fan of. And I just. I don't even remember walking to him. I just was there, like, I floated. And I'm looking up at him and I'm crying and I'm going, I just have to let you know your portrayal of Legolas meant so much to me. Freaking out. And he just looked at me and was like, do you want a hug? And I was like, yes. And he gave me this hug and then he was like, how are you here? What are you doing here? And granted, we were both, you know, people on this boat. Maybe he thought I was someone's daughter. Who knows? But he was incredibly kind to me. And I just thought. I really thought in that moment, if this guy can be nice to me right now, I can be nice for the rest of my life. I can be nice when this happens. I'm just floored. I'm floored.
Nathan Fillion
Was he hairless? I have this image of hairless elves I don't know, that we've discussed in the past on this pod.
Molly Quinn
I like how that you think about hairless elves, but I would like to know why you think about hairless elves.
Alan Tudyk
We did a podcast with Felicia Day and it got into Dungeons and Dragons and who would you become? And Alan can't be any sort of halfling with hairy feet. He can't be anything hairy. So no trolls, no dwarves, no hobbits.
Molly Quinn
Wow.
Alan Tudyk
He has to be an elf because they're hairless, largely.
Nathan Fillion
That's right. That's right.
Molly Quinn
Good, good, good. Alan. Facts.
Nathan Fillion
Why does he think that?
Alan Tudyk
Alan fax. Alan fax.
Molly Quinn
But speaking of, like, people, you know, coming up to us because of Castle, it's also kind of funny. You say the days were grueling, but for me, just working with you, those were, like, the best working days of my life. Especially when we were just, like, playing laser tag. Do you remember that?
Alan Tudyk
No. Listen, working with. Doing scenes with Molly was the closest I came to having vacations whilst I was working Castle.
Nathan Fillion
Wow.
Alan Tudyk
Yeah, they were joyous times. Those were joyous times where we got to have a lot of fun. We had a lot of license to just create the father daughter relationship that we had. And Molly is, I've always said it, one of my favorite people to have worked with and to have been blessed with. And I largely credit Molly and Susan Sullivan with the popularity and the likability of Richard Castle.
Molly Quinn
Hey, happy to be there.
Alan Tudyk
I'm Sorry. I would not hang out with Richard Castle. I would be the guy who's like, I'm annoyed by this fella.
Nathan Fillion
How wild.
Alan Tudyk
Stop things, like, just. Yeah.
Molly Quinn
It was so much fun to work with Susan, especially when she got to unleash. There was something in, like, season four. I think it was in Dial M for Murder, where she's doing, like, King Lear, or she's, like, going off with this giant Shakespearean monologue and there's a wind machine and all these lightning effects going off. She just was. She's a world class performer. So that we got to have her. Yeah. Do these moments of, like, actual Shakespearean performance while I just, like, run in with my long princess hair being like, dad, what am I going to do? It was just joyous. It was so joyous.
Alan Tudyk
Oh, great. Do you remember me teasing you incessantly and telling you I'm toughening you up for real life?
Molly Quinn
Oh, yes. Oh, yes. You used to pick me up and hang me from the rafters in the precinct. You would eventually let me down.
Alan Tudyk
This is what real life's gonna be like. I'll pick you up after lunch.
Molly Quinn
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I'm toughening you up. It's for your good. And also, I think in my first crying scene, the jumping the turnstile when I was, like, 15, by the way, I was terrified the first time crying on camera. I don't know about you guys, but I was terrified.
Nathan Fillion
I've always had trouble not crying on camera. That's been my experience. But, yeah, it does seem like something that.
Molly Quinn
You're so talented, Alan, when people say you're just so in touch with your emotion.
Nathan Fillion
It's a comedy, Alan. Why are you crying so much? But that is a thing that, you know, when people say you're an actor.
Molly Quinn
How can you.
Nathan Fillion
You ever cry on camera? Or how do you learn all those lines? Or can you cry on camera? It seems like a thing. Like, it's a target that it's always sort of hanging out there. That seems hard to do.
Molly Quinn
Yes, it felt like that.
Nathan Fillion
Oh, really?
Molly Quinn
Especially in, like, the child acting lessons. Like. Right. I was in all those classes. And so it felt like this thing of like, well, you want to be Dakota Fanning? Like, you better learn how to cry. And I was like, I gotta learn how to cry, because I'm not. I'm not a very sad person. I'm quite optimistic. And I tend to shy away from anything too adult because I just like to be on the lighter side. To Nathan's point of toughening me up, he doesn't know. I'm so nervous I'm going to cry on camera. And you were just joking with me. You were just joking with me incessantly. You were just like, hey, what's up? What's going on? Oh, you feeling kind of down? I was like, nathan, I have to do this. You can't make me break. And you're like, I'm doing this to toughen you up. And it really did. Because moving forward, things are so, you know, kind of chaosy. Like, even on the best of sets, there's so much going on. So it did that toughening up, it did actually help. Even though you always did it out of just joking and love. There were some real lessons in there that I took.
Nathan Fillion
So there's a little cruelty in there too.
Molly Quinn
There's ha ha ha ha ha ha. I learned despite your jokes. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Alan Tudyk
Who's laughing? No, he would.
Nathan Fillion
He would do that. You should know. He would do that stuff on Firefly set as well. I remember him hanging Adam Baldwin up in the rafters. I mean, and we did go to lunch. Yes. And we did. And he couldn't get down because he's
Alan Tudyk
afraid of throw up my back.
Nathan Fillion
He's afraid of heights.
Alan Tudyk
He's a big man.
Nathan Fillion
But.
Molly Quinn
Yeah, that's amazing. See, you haven't changed. You're just a big kid.
Alan Tudyk
I have a question for you that is not career related. I'm searching.
Nathan Fillion
Should we shut. Should we shut. Just real quick, should we shut the drawbridge? Real quick, should we shut it?
Alan Tudyk
Let's close the drawbridge on the castle Chat.
Nathan Fillion
Thank you. I just wanted to make sure this question.
Alan Tudyk
I'm trying to find the person. Molly, have you ever seen a ghost?
Molly Quinn
Have I ever seen a ghost?
Alan Tudyk
Yeah.
Molly Quinn
Yes.
Nathan Fillion (closing credits)
Okay.
Alan Tudyk
What? Everybody in the back, shut up. Go. Yes.
Molly Quinn
I was haunted by a ghostly apparition from the ages of 9 to 12.
Nathan Fillion
That was Andy Dick. What? Sorry. Jesus.
Molly Quinn
We moved to a house in Texarkana that was full of antiques. My parents bought it with the antiques.
Nathan Fillion
Oh, boy. Ooh.
Molly Quinn
In the front room there was like a. It was like a little library next to the front door. And there was a very nice chair that you could see from the hallway. Right. So you like came out of the kitchen hallway to front door. And you could kind of see that chair on the right hand side peeking out. And there was a shaved headed, serrated teeth woman who would sit in this chair in a kind of black dressing gown open in the center with her arms on the arms of the chair. And she Would just smile at me.
Alan Tudyk
With serrated teeth.
Molly Quinn
With serrated teeth. And I knew if I went into that room while she was there, that would be the end. And she burrowed into my dreams. I think it was a part of me wanting to get the hell out of Texarkana, because that was like 12 was when I. When I got to Dallas and then got to la.
Alan Tudyk
Would it be in the daytime that you're walking past this room and you look and you see her in the chair, kind of drumming her fingers, waiting for you to come in? It's like, is it nighttime that you would see her?
Molly Quinn
And it was nighttime. It was night. It was dusk tonight. So as soon as the sun started going down, the most I remember is, like, late sunset when it was real purpley outside. Alan, you remember those purpley kind of textures?
Nathan Fillion
Oh, yeah. Big sky country. Come on.
Molly Quinn
That's right. That big sky.
Nathan Fillion
Gorgeous.
Molly Quinn
Yeah. So, like, sunset tonight. And I never went down. I didn't even go down that hallway once it got real.
Nathan Fillion
Did you tell your parents?
Molly Quinn
Didn't do that.
Alan Tudyk
What were they gonna do, get rid of the chair?
Molly Quinn
No, no, they weren't gonna do anything. I had to take care of myself. And I did. And I did. She stopped haunting me as soon as I got to California. But, yeah, I seen a ghost.
Alan Tudyk
Somebody has that chair right now, and they're going, I have that. I know that chair and I know that lady.
Nathan Fillion
Serrated.
Molly Quinn
Yeah. Don't get too close. That's right.
Alan Tudyk
Serrated tooth, black dressing gown, open shaved head, smiling. And was it a kind smile, Like.
Molly Quinn
Oh, no, no, it was like the. Y' all can't see, but I'll show the guys. It was like this.
Alan Tudyk
Oh. Oh, it's. It's. It's. That's awful.
Molly Quinn
Yeah. Like, arms out. Yeah, like a smile. Smile. That was exactly. It kind of had the. Remember the mouth of Sauron. I'm getting real nerdy now. In Lord of the Rings, the mouth of Sauron, when he comes out to talk to the armies at the gate. If anyone has a clear picture of what that mouth looked like, just.
Nathan Fillion
Okay.
Molly Quinn
Yes. You would love it. You would play it in the movie.
Nathan Fillion
Alan, I just want a hairless Sauron now.
Molly Quinn
Yeah.
Alan Tudyk
Wow. That. So my search is now completed.
Nathan Fillion
Nathan's been on a search to find someone who has seen a ghost, and it hasn't been a long search. You have. You've given him what he wants.
Alan Tudyk
You completed my mission. And that's a spooky one. On top of it. That's a horrifying. Ghost to be Nathan.
Molly Quinn
Yeah.
Alan Tudyk
There was never any. There was never. When she haunted your dreams, was there a conversation there? Like, what business do you have that's unfinished, my love?
Molly Quinn
I don't ever want to find out.
Alan Tudyk
Why did you file your teeth down?
Molly Quinn
They were always mazes. They were always these dreams of, like, houses that were mazes. And I would. She would just. She would either be in a room that I was coming upon, or I'd be moving away from her.
Nathan Fillion
I have similar house maze dreams. Reoccurring. Reoccurring. Reoccurring. Yeah. My reoccurring dream is maze. Yeah. Like just the other night. I don't know what it is I need.
Molly Quinn
Oh, my God, Alan.
Nathan Fillion
But there was no serrate. Serrated teeth. Lady with an open dressing gown again. Any tattoos? When you could see, maybe on her chest a battleship. I don't know. She had an open dressing gown.
Molly Quinn
I saw no tattoos.
Nathan Fillion
Just old women with their dressing gowns open. It's usually sad.
Molly Quinn
It was really creepy because it was just very. It was pale and it was like, beautiful. She was beautiful. Like, it was like luminescent, like, beautiful,
Alan Tudyk
but bald and serrated, too.
Molly Quinn
And evil smile like a Tilda swim
Nathan Fillion
to, like, Andy Dick. So.
Alan Tudyk
I'm gonna rapid fire some questions at you now.
Nathan Fillion
Okay, Here we come with the rat. A tat tat of the rapid fire questions. Here they come.
Alan Tudyk
What activity instantly calms you?
Molly Quinn
Oh, making my collages.
Alan Tudyk
You make collages?
Molly Quinn
Yes, I rip little. I collect antique papers, and I'm usually looking for someone who's put them in there or underlined a passage. I've been doing this since I was like 12 years old. I slowly have to start going through it because originally I was buying these books and papers and putting them in my room because I thought that my other 12 year old friends would like to open them and see the little passage that someone wrote. No, kids aren't into that. So if I wanted people to see these interesting things or things that I found interesting, these little pieces of personality that people leave behind in their handwriting, I had to make them visible and turn them into an art piece. So. So that brings me a lot of calm.
Alan Tudyk
Also, great practice if you want to take somebody hostage for the ransom.
Nathan Fillion (closing credits)
Right?
Alan Tudyk
Okay.
Nathan Fillion
That's awesome. That's very awesome.
Alan Tudyk
Molly, ideally, how would you spend your birthday?
Molly Quinn
Ooh. Okay. Ideally, how would I spend my birthday with you? You always used to take me on the best birthday adventures. We would go see a movie and you would buy me a hat. You did this like, four years in a row. And I really miss it. Yes. I miss my hats. And I miss my fancy movies where they served me quesadillas.
Alan Tudyk
That was over in Pasadena, where they had the fancy movie theater and around the corner they had the haberdashery.
Molly Quinn
Yes. And you would. You would drive me. It was very.
Alan Tudyk
I remember. I remember that.
Nathan Fillion
That's amazing. How cool.
Molly Quinn
Can we do that again?
Alan Tudyk
Sure.
Molly Quinn
Okay, good.
Alan Tudyk
I'll do that with you. Molly, what is your favorite season and why?
Molly Quinn
Ooh, my favorite seasons. I'm sorry, are 1 and 2. Because they were shot on film. They look so. So stunning and.
Alan Tudyk
Oh, wait, you're talking favorite season. On Castle. You opened up the Castle chats.
Nathan Fillion
The door came back open. We gotta shut that door for the Invaders.
Molly Quinn
You meant seasons, like when you. I did a. I did a Miss Congeniality in reverse. Right now.
Alan Tudyk
Seasons of the year, of the four. You get four options.
Molly Quinn
Yeah, I just miss Congeniality. Okay, so my spring season, 1 and 2.
Alan Tudyk
What's the first season?
Molly Quinn
Is fall. Is fall in Vancouver.
Nathan Fillion
Oh, oh, oh, yeah.
Molly Quinn
Fall in Vancouver. Holy hell. I just got to do that. I just got to do that. I spent most of last year in Vancouver, and fall. My Lord. My Lord. You Canadians know what you're doing with that fall? Incredible. Stanley park on a fall day. Damn.
Nathan Fillion
Much effort.
Alan Tudyk
The nakeds, because it changes colors, but it's still very verdant, which means green.
Nathan Fillion
Also in the park. Lots of nakeds. Just so you know. Be careful.
Molly Quinn
I've never seen any naked.
Nathan Fillion
I've seen a few. Three.
Alan Tudyk
Alan has had some experience.
Nathan Fillion
Four people naked in that park. I spent Covid up in Vancouver and lived there a lot of the year, and I spent a lot of time in the park. We live right by the park, so.
Molly Quinn
Well, yeah, y' all shot a resonate. Resonate.
Nathan Fillion
Yeah. And through jogging through the park. Lots of naked. Lots of. Please tell me this is a. He's wearing a Speedo. It's a Speedo. Nope, that's hair. Why is there so much hair? Again with the hair. I'm starting to figure out where my scars are coming from.
Alan Tudyk
This next one is for both of you. What app on your phone do you use the most?
Molly Quinn
Oh, Instagram. Instagram, Threads, and Instacart. I love food. Oh, yeah. Food and coffee. I buy a lot of coffee.
Nathan Fillion
Alan, threads. Unfortunately. I wish I wasn't on threads. When I want to know what's going on on the streets, I can find it on threads. Social media, I think is bad for your brain. Because you flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip. But it. We've talked about this, Nathan. It can erase your ability to memorize things. It affects you.
Alan Tudyk
That's true. Molly, would you rather cook or order in?
Molly Quinn
I love to cook, and I also love ordering in Wovo in Los Angeles, the pasta place. I will order that so often. Their arugula salad is amazing. And then I also. I love cooking, like, simple, like, donburi dishes. So, like, rice with, like, a meat and a veg on top.
Nathan Fillion
You're calling that donburi? What is that word that Japanese. Oh, really?
Molly Quinn
So when you get donburi, it means a rice bowl with veggie and meat? Yeah.
Nathan Fillion
Ah, I love those too.
Molly Quinn
I think it even just means rice.
Nathan Fillion
I didn't know. I like your word better. Or the Japanesees.
Molly Quinn
Oh, it's a fun. Yes, the Japanese word. And I love my rice maker. Big fan of my cuckoo rice maker. Yeah. Fresh rice. Best thing.
Alan Tudyk
Okay. What is your favorite board game? I will also accept a card game.
Molly Quinn
I like codenames. You know codenames?
Alan Tudyk
I don't know this game.
Molly Quinn
Nathan, you don't know codenames?
Nathan Fillion
If it doesn't shock you, Nathan isn't into the game unless there's actual pain being inflicted by those who lose. Have you.
Molly Quinn
We can work that in. Well, so we can have some rulers and, like, slap each other.
Nathan Fillion
I think Nathan should explain that after you explain code names. But Nathan needs to explain that to folks, because it's true.
Alan Tudyk
What is codenames? How do you play codenames?
Molly Quinn
Okay, this is great, because I've never really had to explain codenames before, so this should be fun. Codenames is a game where you split into two teams. Two teams of three. Like that. That's a good thing. You're trying to guess words on the board and giving clues. So, like, one person is, like, over here. They can see what parts of the board we want to uncover. And so I'm trying to give clues that lead to. To guessing the words on the board, and the other team is allowed to talk and try to distract you while you're doing that. Yeah. And it really is just a lot of guessing and a lot of, like, trying to communicate. And I think that that really evens the playing field and allows for a lot of luck. So those type of games feel very inclusive to me.
Alan Tudyk
I'm gonna call it right now. Alan's gonna be really good at the distraction part of the game.
Nathan Fillion
Yeah. Well, the problem is, let's play it. I can distract and then I also. But I'll get distracted while I'm dist. It's gonna be. You know, maybe I'll be good at it, maybe I won't. Nathan likes to play games that involve shocking people. Like, you put your. Every. Like, four or five people put their fingers in a little hole, and then you push a button, and it goes like a Wheel of Fortune kind of thing. And it slows down, and then it stops someone and it electrocutes you.
Molly Quinn
So this is just like Russian roulette. Yes. But chill.
Nathan Fillion
Yes.
Alan Tudyk
There's one that's like Russian roulette.
Molly Quinn
That video that I sent you. I sent Nathan this video.
Alan Tudyk
Oh, my God. That was very fun.
Molly Quinn
Yeah, Just, like, one's blindfold and the other guy's, like, stepping on things. But, like, every time he breathes, there's, like, a harmonicus. He makes noise. And so the other guy.
Alan Tudyk
Yeah, one guy's blindfolded and barefoot, walking on a floor full of mousetraps with a belt in his hand, swinging it, trying to hit his friend, who's got rubber chickens tied to his feet and a harmonica in his mouth. And the chickens are going to try and sneak around.
Molly Quinn
Yes, exactly.
Alan Tudyk
He's trying to sneak around. So his friend. His friend is listening to Alan.
Molly Quinn
I'm gonna send you this video.
Nathan Fillion
I'm surprised Nathan hasn't. I haven't shown up at his house. He's like, put these on your feet. We're gonna play a game. That's the type of thing Nathan likes to play. Pain.
Molly Quinn
I would do it, though. It would be very painful. But I'm also, like. I've heard these stories, and I know that you like shocking people, and I know that it helps sometimes. This is how he helped you or tried to help you quit smoking, I believe, with the shocking lighters and things.
Alan Tudyk
Shocking lighters.
Molly Quinn
Why did you never do this to me? You never. It's actually. It's very sweet. I think there's actually something very sweet.
Alan Tudyk
Yeah.
Molly Quinn
That you.
Alan Tudyk
Because I have class.
Molly Quinn
You have class. You respect me. Oh, my God. Is this where we learn that, Helen? I mean, he. I think he respects.
Nathan Fillion
Yes, he does. And he doesn't respect me.
Molly Quinn
But I also feel like to be a better friend with Nathan, you're gonna have to start shocking me. It's not fair. Now I feel like I'm not being included.
Nathan Fillion
Don't. Don't invite this. Don't invite this into your live, Molly.
Alan Tudyk
Well, the other game is called Lightning Reaction. And everybody. There's four people can play. You get a little handle Like a little buzzer. Like on a game show. A little game show handle, little buzzer, and you hit the button in the middle and everybody's little handle's connected with a cable and it does some suspenseful music. And when it goes green, you have to push your buzzer. And the last guy to press it gets a shot.
Nathan Fillion
Yeah.
Alan Tudyk
Or if you press it early, you get a shot.
Molly Quinn
I'm just seeing the scene from the Deer Hunter, but I can't wait to play this game.
Nathan Fillion
Did he mouth or he just heats up the fly swatter that has an electric charge and puts it on your ear? Or when you had your trainer, how did you convince your trainer to let you use a taser on it?
Alan Tudyk
Tase him in the leg. Yeah.
Nathan Fillion
That's a felony.
Alan Tudyk
I think he was convinced it wouldn't put him down.
Nathan Fillion
Oh.
Alan Tudyk
And I said, no, this will put you down.
Molly Quinn
Who's your trainer?
Alan Tudyk
This is a guy named Josh. We. We did a post about this ages ago when Twitter was on, and he said, it's not going to put me down. I said, it'll put you down, but if we're going to do this, let's put it on Twitter.
Nathan Fillion
Yeah. Now he's.
Alan Tudyk
And it put him. He. He dropped.
Nathan Fillion
Now his name's Gimpy Josh.
Alan Tudyk
He was a little sack of potatoes that fell out. Yeah. He never recovered.
Nathan Fillion
Never. Never worked. Right.
Alan Tudyk
I'm gonna ask this of both of you. What is your most prized possession?
Nathan Fillion
Oh, can I. I'm gonna just say my dogs, because they are possession. It's weird that they're my possession because they are living, but my. All my dogs are my prized possession.
Molly Quinn
That's where my mind went to. It went to Pikachu. My little dog that my husband and I. What kind of dog? She's a mutt. She's a mutt.
Nathan Fillion
Best kind.
Molly Quinn
Her mama was a standard white Chihuahua. We don't know what her dad was.
Nathan Fillion
A rascal, obviously.
Molly Quinn
A rascal. A rascal. A tom, A real tom. Some type of poodle. Because she looks kind of like a. She's an 8 pound hypoallergenic. Luckily, all. Luckily, it's. My friend's girlfriend's dogs had puppies. They didn't know the dogs were pregnant. And they, like, woke up and they were just puppies in the living room. And my friend was just like, I don't know what to do. She wants to keep them all. Help me. Please help me. And it was one of those word vomit moments where I was like, oh, if one's a girl I'll take it being like, why are you saying this? You have a dog and you're working on a show. But she came into my life, Pikachu, and is still here. And, man, I'm a better person because of Pikachu. She's just. And that's really true. I remember coming home one day in a really bad mood. The type of bad mood where, like, you might throw a glass or something. Like, I was, you know, this is a competitive job. I'm a competitive.
Nathan Fillion
Came from Texas.
Molly Quinn
I come from Texas. That's right. As a child actor, 12 years old. Like, I'm competitive. I'm nice, but I'm competitive. So I was coming home and in a bad mood. And she. Pikachu, sees me, like, on the side of my front door. And I just heard. And I open that door, and she's just smiling and bounding. And I thought, oh, there's nothing for me to ever feel this upset about if I have this waiting for me at home. And it's true. I've never been that upset again.
Nathan Fillion
Wow.
Molly Quinn
I really haven't. I adore this little dog. She has to live forever. Sorry, no Pikachu.
Alan Tudyk
Would you ever clone your dog?
Molly Quinn
I don't think it clones their personality. Right. Like, that's kind of the argument, because I know people have done it. I think it's amazing. I think it's very cool. I would do it if it would continue their personality. A hundred percent. She is my soul dog.
Nathan Fillion
No, that's. I think that's one of their lessons, is that they die.
Molly Quinn
Shut up, Alex.
Nathan Fillion
That's one of the lessons. It's like, spoiler alert. Life is, you know, not forever.
Molly Quinn
It's true.
Nathan Fillion
But we just got a new one because ours are getting so old. So we can just shift one out, shift one in. That's how it's going to be. I'm kidding, Raisin. Live forever, sweetheart. Live forever.
Molly Quinn
I understand it. My first. My baby. While I was doing Castle Named Piper, I got her, like, season two. That's right. And I still have her stuffed on the wall. So one of my collages, you pointed behind you. Taxidermy. I know. And taxidermy. It might be a little bit of a shared love language between me and you. I don't have as much, but I am interested in the art of taxidermy. I have a picture of Piper and Nathan kissing. She, like, she. She gave you a real little kiss on the mouth, and she was awesome. We had her till just about two years ago. How old was 15 she was a 15 year old miniature Yorkie. So 3 lbs. Had had an animal attack that she survived, but had like a neurology team, like a real upset in the middle of her life. Yeah, she became kind of a wily one after that. Would wake up and bite ya. But we still loved her. We loved her the whole time.
Alan Tudyk
Did you get a bit of a shift?
Molly Quinn
Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, when you get attacked, she was gone. Like her little trachea was pierced. She was losing air. If we hadn't kind of found her. Yeah, we rushed her, thank goodness. Well, that would have eaten her. And she had a habit of hunting mice, rats and rabbits. I at the time was living on a place that had a little bit of land. You know, Texas is always in my heart. So even in la, I was looking for a little bit of land, which I don't recommend anymore. The coyotes and things. It's. It's a lot. But yeah, she was always bringing me a mouse. Especially when. Because Pikachu and her were siblings and crossed over for a good five years, something like that. So the two of them especially would go after things together. So. So I think Ilan, my husband and I, we settled on that. It was like a raccoon or something. Something that was big enough to beat her up, but that left her. Cause thank God they left her. And that there are great animal hospitals here in la and that we had an awesome team that took care of her and we had her. She just bit us a lot for the remainder of her life.
Nathan Fillion
There's a Stephen King book called Pet Sematary. You may want to read it.
Molly Quinn
Yep. Yep. It was my research. Yes. It was my research. As she started to shift, I think she was a zombified.
Alan Tudyk
You don't want to bury that dog up there.
Molly Quinn
Oh, down. Down that road. Oh, wow.
Nathan Fillion
Beautiful. Do we do a. I know you. You know me?
Alan Tudyk
Yeah. Molly, let's get to know you better.
Molly Quinn
Sure.
Nathan Fillion
I know you and you know me.
Alan Tudyk
Let's get to know you better. Tell us something, Molly, that we don't know about you.
Molly Quinn
Something that you don't know about me. Okay, here's something. I'm a really adventurous eater. I'm a very adventurous eater. I had chicken sashimi.
Nathan Fillion
No.
Molly Quinn
In Japan.
Nathan Fillion
No, no.
Molly Quinn
Yes, Yes, I did. And it was delicious.
Nathan Fillion
How was the stomach upset that followed the salmonella?
Molly Quinn
There wasn't. It's not how it is in Japan. They have a total different way of raising chickens. It's. There's not that same worry. So you just have to get rid of that idea while you're there.
Nathan Fillion
What did it taste like?
Molly Quinn
And yeah, I mean, it tasted like medium fatty tuna sashimi originally. Yes, it was really good. Had those great little chive flowers on top and I think a little.
Nathan Fillion
I like my pork raw, but that's different. Wow. Okay. Wow. Anything else that's adventurous.
Alan Tudyk
That is adventurous. What else have you put in your mouth that would freak me out?
Molly Quinn
Ooh. Okay. Food wise on Gross Alonz and my first real date, we went to a Japanese restaurant here in la and I had jellyfish. I had some marinated jellyfish. That was really great. Very chewy.
Nathan Fillion
You're gonna wanna marinate that. Yeah.
Molly Quinn
And then, let's see, I've had a horse.
Alan Tudyk
What's the texture of jellyfish? Do you chew it?
Molly Quinn
Yes, it's like a crunchy kind of has like a crunch. Like jicama.
Alan Tudyk
Oh, really bizarre.
Nathan Fillion
I like a good jicama.
Molly Quinn
I'll probably just eat crunch. Yeah, Has a good.
Nathan Fillion
So what, what did you say about the horse? There was a horse in there also?
Molly Quinn
Yes, I've had horse sashimi. I've had horse sashimi as well.
Nathan Fillion
That's just delicious sounding.
Molly Quinn
It was. It was delicious. You take it neigh and a little sauce neigh.
Nathan Fillion
I say take it easy. Sorry. Wow. Wow. Those are very adventurous.
Molly Quinn
That's a lot of raw, adventurous things.
Nathan Fillion
It's a lot of raw.
Molly Quinn
The great frontier raw foods.
Nathan Fillion
Something you don't know about me, Nathan. I don't know if you know about. I know, Molly. You don't know about. You don't know this about me. I used to fake bloody noses to get out of class in from ninth grade on. Because in ninth grade, in biology class, we pricked our fingers and tested for our blood type. Because it was old enough that you could do that. I'm old enough that they're like, yeah, open up vine, it doesn't matter. And I would. I would see what I could steal from my teacher's desk. And so she had lancets on her desk.
Molly Quinn
Little clutch.
Nathan Fillion
Yeah. And I took a whole fistful of lancets and they were flat and they were in paper and I would just keep in my wallet. And when I was in class and I wanted to leave, I was tired or whatever, I was bored. I just prick a finger and stick it up my nose and run it down my lip and I'd raise my hand and say, I got nosebleed. And I get to go to the clinic. And I just leave and wander around the school and then I'd finally make my way to the clinic, and I knew the nurse by first name, Susan Lavin. Hey, Susan.
Alan Tudyk
Alan.
Nathan Fillion
What's up?
Molly Quinn
Did she know?
Nathan Fillion
Eventually, she just knew I wasn't. Nothing was wrong. I would. I wouldn't even talk. You know, the blood was gone. I wouldn't even say I had a bloody nose. I'd just be like, I got a test. I got a quiz. I don't know. I'm bored. I'm tired. Maybe I have a fever. You want to check my. Do you want to check my temperature? Maybe I have a fever. What are you doing today? Like, I was just. I couldn't.
Molly Quinn
You just didn't want to be in the classroom.
Nathan Fillion
I was bad at the school. I was bad at school.
Molly Quinn
You would have been a great child actor.
Nathan Fillion
All right. Yeah.
Molly Quinn
Yeah, you would have been great. You really would have been great. I hated school, too. I didn't. There's a reason I didn't have what
Nathan Fillion
you had, which was respect. I didn't have enough. I didn't have enough maturity. I would have spun the hell out. It would have been.
Molly Quinn
Well, you would have been fun to hang out with.
Nathan Fillion
Yeah, that's true.
Molly Quinn
Selfishly, I would have liked that. That would have been fun. That's so weird. That's a very weird thing you did. You were just constantly faking nosebleeds by pricking your own finger.
Nathan Fillion
And then my final year in, which is amazing to me that you started your career at 15, 14, 15. So my years of 14, 15, 16 were my worst years of having behavioral problems in school, I had a teacher I liked very much, Ms. Pollard. And on the final. My English final, which I had to pass because, again, not good at the school because I'd leave class all the time, I pricked all five fingers. And she knew I was a. She knew I was always joking around and doing stuff. And it was just me and Andy dry in the class with last two finishing our tests like everybody had gone home. And she was giving us extra time to finish our tests. I wadded up a piece of paper, and with the five fingers, with the blood going, I scratched my head as I walked by her desk. And then I tripped. I fake tripped and fell. And as I came down by her desk, I hit it. I hit it with my hand and bounced my head back. And so when she looked up, she just saw my head jerk back and I fell down to the floor. And she goes, look what happens. Look what happens when you screw around, Alan. And I pulled my hand away and said, blood. And she Goes, oh, my God. Oh, my God. I said, no, it's okay. I'll go to the clinic. And I started to raise up. I rolled my eyes back in my head, and I collapsed on the floor.
Molly Quinn
Oh, my God. This was your first performance. This is when it all started. Your physical comedy, your. Oh, my God. This is the actual origin story.
Nathan Fillion
It was so great. And she ran from behind her desk, and she comes up to me, and she's looking the mirror. She's like, find the cut. Find the cut. And Andi Dreith was right there trying to help, and she's. And she's in my hair, and then there's nothing there. And I laughed and laughed and laughed and laughed. She's like, turn your test right now.
Molly Quinn
That is not okay.
Nathan Fillion
You turn your test right now. I was like, I'm not turning my test. I got you. I got you. She was the best teacher. She's my favorite teacher. Ms. Pollard, I love you. She's the only one I went back to that school to go see. Like, Ms. Pollard, I love you. I love you. I love you. She was the best. She put up with my bullshit, God bless her.
Molly Quinn
Yeah, she really did.
Alan Tudyk
You loved her, so you tortured her.
Molly Quinn
That's a lot of bullshit.
Nathan Fillion
Yeah, but she would laugh if you were good. If you get a good enough trick. Anyway, I was thrown out of a different class and put into her class because the other teacher couldn't take a fucking joke. Anyway, Nathan, what about you?
Molly Quinn
The other teacher couldn't recognize. Genius. Yeah, Nathan, Exactly.
Nathan Fillion
Come on. Ms. Goodwin, anybody who had her in Vines knows what I'm talking about.
Alan Tudyk
There are two things that will give me goosebumps aside from cold. One is really tasty food. Really like something that. Something that tastes really good, like Raj or a case. I'll get goosebumps on my arm. You'll see my hair goes up on my arms. And a great back scratch. I'm like a. I'm an over the shirt, full coverage. Because if you do a little here, a little here, a little here, it's like you're chasing an itch and you're creating itches. But you got to do full coverage, top to bottom, all side to side, all the way at the bottom. That will give me.
Molly Quinn
I know that one about you because I remember on set, I would give you those. You'd scratch my full back scratches. Yeah, because you're like, it was a big job.
Alan Tudyk
Because I'm a big. I got a big back, and you have tiny little hands. I remember that.
Nathan Fillion
That is Such a dad daughter thing.
Molly Quinn
Get to work, child. Child, get to work. That's what you used to say.
Alan Tudyk
Why aren't you busy scratching my neck?
Molly Quinn
Ginger, get over here. Scratch my back with those tiny rat pansies.
Alan Tudyk
That sounds exactly like something I would do.
Molly Quinn
That's exactly how you said it, word for word, verbatim. The story can never change. But I didn't know that about the food. I'm glad to know that food gives you a physical response as well. That's lovely. We need to go out eating together more. Let's go out eating together more.
Alan Tudyk
Let's do that. I'm on like a super diet right now for like the next month, but after that, the gates are open. Let's go have some horse and chicken.
Nathan Fillion
Raw.
Alan Tudyk
Raw.
Molly Quinn
And jellyfish. Yeah, I'll take them to my favorite raw bar. They're never gonna come eat with me now.
Alan Tudyk
That's some weird stuff, though. You gotta admit that my. That's not unlike my brother. Right?
Molly Quinn
I love snails.
Nathan Fillion
Oh, snails.
Molly Quinn
I love snails.
Alan Tudyk
That's not weird. That's. That's actually quite tasty. It's all full of butter and garlic and mushrooms. Come on.
Nathan Fillion
Have you ever been to Cambodia? What?
Alan Tudyk
Can't you put butter and mushrooms and garlic?
Molly Quinn
No. I've always wanted to go. I have not been to Cambodia yet.
Nathan Fillion
Cambodia. They'll have like an Angkor Wat. You go around with like big baskets of, hey, you want some spiders? You want some different spiders, different bugs.
Alan Tudyk
Then they go home and say, guess what? We got the tourists to eat today.
Nathan Fillion
Yeah, it feels like. It feels like it was a meant for tourists. That's shock value that people would get for novelty. But they had a lot of them, so.
Molly Quinn
No, no, it's. It's very real. And I want to get to the place where I feel good eating bugs. I really believe in bug protein, I think that is. And I haven't eaten a lot of it yet. I've had bee larva, I've had crickets, and I've eaten ants. But I do have to get over it. I have to get over this western idea of bugs eating bad. Cause I think bugs eating good.
Nathan Fillion
Yeah, It'll help the world.
Alan Tudyk
Cautionary tale. Molly, you remember Jordan, my niece. Jordan.
Molly Quinn
Of course we're still friends. What are you talking about? I love your whole family, of course.
Alan Tudyk
So she's married to this lovely gentleman. His name is Andrew. Who discovered crickets. He was snacking on crickets. He liked them. They were nutty. They were like popcorn. He enjoyed them. So he bought a Big bag of crickets. And he kept him in the freezer. And one day he's watching a hockey game and he's just snacking on crickets. Crickets, crickets, crickets. That night he goes, I don't feel so good.
Molly Quinn
And, oh, my God.
Alan Tudyk
Went to the bathroom and proceeded to throw up what sounded like he was about to die in there. Jordan is describing this horrific sound, but of course, she didn't go in to check on him. She's like, what am I gonna do? For three days afterwards, he would blow his nose and there'd be, like, cricket legs in the tissue. Little bits of cricket. Oh, that's the head. Oh, that's the leg. That's the back leg blowing his nose. It's all coming out of him.
Molly Quinn
I wanna see this in a movie now. I wanna see that. That's so fun. Like, I wanna see it in real
Alan Tudyk
life, but I really want to see Cautionary Tale.
Molly Quinn
I don't know. Sounds like fun.
Alan Tudyk
Apparently, he got some bad crickets. Molly, thank you for doing this.
Nathan Fillion
Thank you, Molly.
Molly Quinn
You guys, thank you.
Alan Tudyk
I hope it was relatively painless.
Molly Quinn
I mean, I don't know why you hope that, because it seems like you like hurting the people that love. But it was. And it was fun. You guys. You guys are just so much fun.
Nathan Fillion
Have fun at your first con. You'll be in close proximity to a lot of spacemen. Space women.
Molly Quinn
I can't wait. I'm such fans of the whole Firefly group. I'm very truly. Part of the excitement is that I'm gonna, like, get to be around you guys because you can't take this guy from me. I'm a fan of it all. So thank you guys for beautiful letting me hang out.
Alan Tudyk
Love you, Molly. Thanks for doing it. Thank you, Molly, you're amazing as always.
Molly Quinn
Love you, Nate.
Nathan Fillion
Get that music.
Molly Quinn
Thank you, Alan.
Nathan Fillion (closing credits)
Hello, and thank you for listening. This is Nathan Fillion. Now is the part where I read aloud the credits for our show in my best telephone voice. So put on some headphones, lay back and relax because this is our time. If you haven't yet, you can always head over to our Patreon to get bonus content, longer episodes, and a chance to get your hands on some incredible crap. If you love the show, please leave us a review and feel free to tell all your friends if you didn't love the show. Now, now is the time for quiet contemplation. Once We Were Spacemen is a collision 33 production. Some of the names I will mention are my favorite people in the world. And some of them have room for improvement. You know who you are. If you hear your name being read, please stand up. This show is produced by Siobhan Homan, Michelle Chapman and Josh Lebbey of Collision 33. We are edited, mixed and produced by Resonate Recordings, with special thanks to Courtney Blomquist and Adam Townsell. Our theme music is done by Carlos Sosa and Joshua Moore. Artwork by the incredible and incomparable Louis Jensen. But going to tell you right now, I think he faked his accent. Until next time.
Alan Tudyk
Jeepers.
Podcast Hosts: Nathan Fillion & Alan Tudyk
Guest: Molly Quinn
Date: March 25, 2026
This episode is a joyful, nostalgia-rich reunion between Nathan Fillion, Alan Tudyk, and their former "Castle" co-star, Molly Quinn. They reminisce about casting milestones, on-set adventures, the unique dynamics of acting as a family on screen, and the bizarre, delightful realities of Hollywood. The discussion evolves into candid recollections about growing up in the industry, managing early responsibility, and the wild culinary journeys Molly has had. The hallmark of the conversation is its warmth, irreverent humor, and the deep affection shared among the trio.
[44:22+]: Fun, quirky rapid-fire questions reveal personal quirks:
On prized possessions ([54:20]):
On eating raw foods ([60:05-61:59]):
Ghost story ([39:25]):
The language is playful, teasing, full of inside jokes and genuine affection. Alan is the class clown with self-deprecating humor; Nathan volleys between dry wit and supportive mentor; Molly exhibits both humility and a gentle boldness.
This episode beautifully spotlights the lifelong bonds forged through creative collaboration, blending touching reminiscences with fresh, unscripted hilarity. Whether discussing the realities of child acting, the quirks of working in Hollywood, or their peculiar passions and superstitions, the conversation is deeply relatable—a love letter to friendship, found family, and the absurd, serendipitous journey of growing up both on- and off-screen.
Notable Quote to Sum Up
Molly Quinn (29:52):
“For me being a child actor, it saved my life. It gave me a life. I am so—I cannot tell you how grateful, how much I love acting, how much I love being on set and the places I get to go. ... I pinch myself every day because I am living the dream.”
For anyone who loves behind-the-scenes stories, unconventional career coming-of-age tales, and the deep warmth of shared history, this episode is a must-listen.