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Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I'm your host, JD Denim. Across the way, like always, my good friend, my buddy, William T. Haas. Happy Friday.
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Happy Friday.
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Yeah, we, we are flying to Vegas today. I'm excited about it, I'm happy about it. I love my kids, but a little bit of a. Yeah. Hellacious time. Five and two. Whoa, man. Two. Two boys at that age.
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It's been rough. Yeah.
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So.
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Yeah.
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But I will tell you this, with that being said, I. This morning, Mason, my little 2 year old who's just a feisty little sucker, he slept and he screams at the top of his lung like all day. Now I'm like, dude. Anyways, he gets up here's all you know. He sees me and he gets this
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huge, this huge smile on his face
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and just runs straight into my arms and he puts his head. And I'm hugging on him.
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Hey, bud.
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And like he just wouldn't like let me go. He had dad. And then so as I'm getting ready and I'm, I'm leaving, I bring my bags out because we're going out of town. He sees that and he goes, dad, dad, no. And he starts pulling back into his room and I was like, dude. So man, it's, there's. Being a parent is rough, but it, it pays off by those little. Just precious moments.
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So last night, I'll tell you, we had Rivers Little league championship game. So it was playoff time. And so they, they first of all, they started the season like the last seed. Like they lost like the first five games and we're not good. A lot of the players, some of them is first time playing baseball. Anyway, they got a couple guys, they got two guys who were like good after. Really fun at the beginning of the season. You could tell. All right, we got two guys that are good and everybody else, I don't know. Really. No, they started off bad. So anyway, they started playing better. They playing better. Playoffs came, they got. They were still, I think the last seed. So they played the best team in the league. Right. It's a double elimination for the playoffs. Okay, well, they beat this team last night. No, like four days ago.
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Oh, wow.
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So that means. That's great. That puts them in the winners bracket. They basically get a buy for three days while this first place team has to now win four games to get back to them. And then they have to beat them twice. Beat our my guys twice to actually win the championship. Well, that first place team did that. They beat everybody. And then so two nights ago, Wednesday Night was the first game and our team lost to them. And we're like, yeah, like it's never a good thing. Like that team has now won five, six games in a row, dude. And they are four to seven. And, and it's not really A E. It's, it's not, it's not like a series like that. But, but essentially last night was the game. It's a winner, winner take all. Last night after we lost to them the night before and, and they play five innings, okay, five inning games, five or six. The, this game went 10 innings and the entire like outfield fence was just packed with people. Like all your other games stop. And they're watching and these kids are 10 year olds, dude, and they're playing good baseball, like deep into the 10th inning, like right. They're still making, you know, six kind of oppressive.
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Right.
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Right down the line, like backhanded and throwing them out. They're actually making competent plays. And our guys in the bottom of the 10th kind of went out in a rally. River got his first base hit of the season.
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Hit the ball clutch, bro.
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Yeah. And, and they won the game. They won the game. And then when they won, all the kids, all the people, they were on the outfield fence, they just jumped the fence and just like mobbed the field.
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Like people that never experienced that. Ah man, I don't know how, how people didn't play sports and that's, it's not, they can't even, can't even explain it, right?
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I was talking to his dad on the way out and I'm like, dude. You know, he's like, that was, that was cool. It's been a while, right, since I've played sports, right. And I haven't had a kid in any competitive sports and the kids have so far. And everybody's in the same boat. Everybody's kids have been too young up to this point that they're not really good enough.
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Right.
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To really care.
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Right. They're just not good enough for it.
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Like, but right now this is about the first time that they're good enough that they understand what's on the line, that they can play an outcome correctly. Outcome the game and, but it was fun and they won, dude.
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We would stay at the, the, the, the ballpark for all Saturday and Sunday every week.
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Yeah.
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Play, you know, over the line and stuff. Totally, dude. If you didn't have that as your childhood, that sucks because it was so awesome, dude. All your buddies like just causing roughness and then you play, then you had a Game. And then like, dude, it was rough.
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And you get to sit and watch the other games. Like this. The cool thing about. Yeah.
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Who were the gu.
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Most home r this fun, man. This is fun. So. And yes. And there's these four fields all together. Right. And they do it. That the Huntington Pavilion is dope. Like, they've spent. They have some donors. They've spent some good money. It's the best facilities I've ever seen. Edison for little league? No, it's right next to my house, right across the street. So we just drive the golf cart
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behind, like, hardware zubies.
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Right, right. So that's cool.
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Right?
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And then all the kids, they playing pickle in the middle or playing wall ball. Right. And that. That's fun. Getting the snack. Snack bar. So, yeah, it's cool. And. And actually last. The night before last, river played center field, and he had like a pop up up to him, and he didn't. You know, when you play outfield, when ball's in the air, first steps are back. All right? So because. Because you can move forward really fast, you can't move backward very competently. So you better go back, judge it. If you need to come up on it, do that. He didn't do that. And the ball went this far over his glove and two runs scored. And, you know, that was the difference. Although, like, I'm the first to say, like, nobody gets blamed in a team sport for one mistake, you know, if team. You don't like it, then you shouldn't have been in that position to barely squeak out this to make one play actually matter.
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Yeah.
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But it was good.
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Redemption. That's cool, man.
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Like, he was not happy the night before.
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That's why, like, fathers are so important, man, because he teach them that. Like my dad. I was out throwing the ball with my dad as long as I can ever remember playing pickle. Like, he showed me how to do pickle. This is how you find the ball. You know what I mean? Like, you don't know. Know how rad that is until you grow up and realize, man, my dad was at every damn practice and every game, and a lot of kids didn't have that. Like, you realize, like, yeah, it's pretty dope, dude. The kids that have that and the kids that don't. That sucks, man. Absolutely. But the power of a father.
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Yep. So anyway, that was fun. And yes, we're going to Vegas now. It's Memorial Day. We're not going there, folks. Anybody to, like, go listen to our favorite techno DJs.
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We're gonna go think and work, get some relaxation.
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Yeah.
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He's got some computer stuff too, but just planned.
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Yeah. Kind of a vacation, but also future planning sesh.
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Yeah. Eat some good steak, hopefully.
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Yeah.
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So let's get cracking because we got a plane to catch. So today is going to be cool. Last night we were thinking what should we do? And we've had some questions on some people that have asked. You know, we've done Dihexa. We've had some people that have asked us about Modafinil. So we were like, let's do. Those are kind of similar. And then we're like, well, then will text me later on. He's like, well, let's do seam accent soon because it works perfect. So we're going to combine all four of these because they're a lot of similarities. Little differences too, but definitely a cool subject. And as we've kind of gone through this and prepared. I like it.
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This is because like it a lot.
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Yeah. I think a lot of people are going to like this because everybody's got brain fog for whatever different reason. Everybody's dealing with fatigue and brain fatigue and just lack of focus. And these are going to be the ones that will help with that.
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Yep. And anxiety, right? Yeah. Everybody's got some anxiety disorder and. Yes. So there's a lot. Something for everybody.
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Totally. I know. I was thinking as we were kind of preparing that, dude, everybody was going to see this and be like, I want them.
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Yeah.
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Where do I get them? Because they are the freaking.
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That's usually what happens too. Any, any peptides that we profile and dig into. We're like, that sounds great. I want to do. And I need to do more of that one. Um, so first I guess we want to talk about Modafinil. So like most people actually don't. It's not a peptide, everybody. This is like an FDA approved drug. Maybe you got. Maybe you have heard of it as like this smart pill, right? It's like the. Or limitless pill.
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Yeah, that's what I call it.
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Yeah, that is. And it's basically it comes in a pill and it's an FDA approved drug for shift work disorder, which basically just means like you work to double shift and you're tired. I don't know why that's a disorder. It just means you're freaking tired and you're staying in it. So it's a good thing to stay awake. But it's not like a. It's not like just taking a bunch of no dos. Right. And it's definitely not like taking Adderall. It's a non narcotic and non like habit forming.
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Yeah.
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And which is huge. Which is.
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I mean, because anybody like we're, we're in recovery as most people know at this point. And I take it before podcasts, ironically, I love it. It really is laser focused. When I'm not on a podcast, I don't even think about it. So they're just so that's the crazy thing. Like I get addicted to everything. I was like, we're like, do we. Have you done aderal? Like yeah, I used to like cut it up and like there would never take it like a normal human. Why would I do that? You know what I mean?
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Just no. So that's crazy. But I get addicted to everything and I don't get addicted to this because it does not affect the euphoria. It doesn't give you any euphoria. Right. And that's the trigger on most addictive substances. This just does light up your brain. So basically if we can look at the screen, we'll give the people a little few graphics. But essentially it's doing something very similar as tessofensine, which is a triple reuptake inhibitor of neurotransmitters. So it is increasing. Essentially your dopamine, your norepinephrine, AKA noradrenaline was the same things and also serotonin. So dopamine is a neurotransmitter that makes you happy and also motivated and energized. Right. Noradrenaline, norepinephrine is happy and lots of energy. That one's just straight up energy. Serotonin is happy but calming and less and killing anxiety. So it's a reuptake inhibitor. So you get more of all of those in your brain. Okay. And that is by the way, what Tessa fencing does. Okay. They. They work in different strengths to do that. But what makes modafinil a bit different is that I guess here you want it. So unlike in. So we said it was a non narcotic. Right. So unlike amphetamines, modafinil dopamine effects is more selective and moderate. Yeah. Targeting cortical circuits more than mesolimbic reward pathways. So I think the reason that they definitely lower abuse.
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I think the reason why they focus on this is again, I was more of a speed guy myself and if I got her all, I just chopped it up. But you hear people all the time love Adderall because it gives you that razor focus. From what I've understanding my Wife took it when she was passing her tests and that's how she relapsed. Blah, blah. But it gives you that razor focus. Like, I've done monophenone many times. Like I said, I take it before podcast because it does focus you. The first time I took it, Will had given me one. Right. Long time ago, right when we kind of started the company. And I didn't think too much about it. And that day I was just.
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Yeah.
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And I remember thinking, man, dude, I was just on point today. I got so much done. He's like, you took the Modafin? I'm like, oh, I. I was just like, damn.
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I don't know why.
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I'm sort of like, yeah, but it was just like. It literally felt like that movie living this. You know what I mean? But it gives you that razor focus that people talk about. I never did Adderall correctly, but like, just like that. But again, without the amphetamine to the degree where you don't get spun out. I don't feel like I'm taking any uppers or anything. It's just focus.
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Yeah, just focus. And like, you know, you get that, like drug amphetamine kind of like you're just feeling like. And it's just. And you for sure can get spun out.
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Oh, dude.
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And you get a little happiness and then it turns into depression. None of that stuff with this, like. None of it. Yeah, it's terrible. So you get none of those bad, like, drug feelings. So. And I guess the other way that this is working is these orexin neurons. So I'm going to spare everybody the scientific explanation, but essentially it works in a different way by increasing these orexin neurons and their output, which is what? People who have narcolepsy, right, they lack those, so they just suddenly fall asleep. Okay, so this is artificially boosting all of that in your brain. That keeps the actually signals preventing the abrupt transition into sleep.
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Have you ever seen anybody that's. That's had narcolepsy?
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I've known people, but I've never seen them do it.
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My old neighbor when I was a kid had it and he was. We would be sitting at dinner, our neighbors, next door neighbors would go over there and at dinner and he would literally just fall asleep at the table. And I was like, maybe nine, give or take. And dude, I was. I'd never seen anything like it. He would just literally, literally in tucking and just go to. I was like, what the hell? So that's really weird, actually.
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So. And then I guess this histamine histamine system. Okay, so this is kind of interesting as we, as we read a bit. So the old school anti. So old school antihistamines like Benadryl, they make us tired, right? Everybody knows that taking into histamine, it makes me drowsy. Okay. So that same exact system that is making you drowsy and Modafinil works the opposite and turns that off and, and, and it expresses. It actually makes your like histamines release. It activates that and makes that more plentiful. Now the question for me was like, oh, does this mean now my whole body is going to have some like hyper histamine response to everything and I'm gonna have allergic reactions all over the place. And the answer is no. There's a difference between the histamine system in your brain and your body. Okay. So this is only affecting your brain. You will not start to get allergic reactions all over the place. But it will if you take the one of them old school antihistamines like Benadryl that actually make you through drowsy and Modafinil, those will kind of compete. That will make you drowsy. Modafinil will kind of fight that off. Little known fact for me at least all the new ones, which is like Allegra, Zyzol, Zyrtec, those do not pass the blood brain barrier. They just work in physical. Right. Allergies and therefore there's absolutely no interaction whatsoever. But they don't make you tired.
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No.
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Now, you know, don't take the old and old Benadryl.
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So focus memory.
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Yeah, Slide. Right.
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Some of the things that it's good at was it better focus, which for sure gets rid of mental fog. You have a lot of mental clarity, improved memory and prove motivation is what a lot of people say. I mean, I would say that like, again, I feel like it motivates me
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and higher function, higher good, like executive function. Executive function is like bird's eye view. Planning, right, Is to be able to take in. Okay, I got today, this next week, in a month. And I have all these tasks right. And I'm able to now, right, multitask and plan all of them. My, my current actions. So everything gets done.
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That's why I say the limitless. Because like, if you're somebody that has a problem with like focusing and you're all scatterbrained, like my wife, it kind of like brings it in. You're just like, I have my lap planned. It really works.
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So some of the things like ad it is being Used ADHD for ADHD patients. Although that's an off label.
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I can see that prescription.
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Right. And that's basically kind of what you're describing with your wife now. It's not. This is FDA approved for certain conditions. Schizophrenia, related cognitive deficits, depression with fatigue and cognitive slowing, traumatic brain injury, rehab, jet lag and ship shift work. Cognitive impairment. Okay. That is what the FDA is approving. This is a good graphic of. Hey, before modafinil brain, after it's working lit up.
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Wow
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dosages. You, I. You tend to have a higher tolerance. So it does. I mean it is a stimulate. So the goal here folks is not to take it before you go to sleep.
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You don't.
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You probably will not see in the morning, first thing in the morning before
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like dying if it's a podcast. But like if you take it later, you, you probably.
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You will see most of these pills as 200 milligram pills. Right. You so full pill, 200 milligrams. You generally take a full one.
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Yeah.
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I have women I've often suggested to start with a half a pill. It depends on everybody's different tolerances. They're in their, you know.
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Yeah.
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How, how well they handle stimulants. I. If it's first thing in the morning and I drink coffee, empty stomach, I don't really want to take a full one. It might just be a little too much. Right. I'll take a half one. But after like midday I can sleep no matter what. I don't even. So I don't have a problem taking one of these things that like.
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Or.
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Yeah. Full1@3pm oh wow. And I'll have a productive night and I'll still pass right out when I need to. But there's. This is a chart showing kind of different clinical dosages. So what you see is narcolepsy, 200 milligrams. Obstructive sleep apnea, 200 milligrams. I'm not sure why. Oh, you have obstructive sleep apnea, which means you're not sleeping at night and you need to now stay awake for work. That's why you take it. Not to help you sleep shift work. Sleep disorder, 200 milligrams ADHD off label 150. Cognitive enhancement, off label 100. They're saying this 100. Yeah, that's kind of what I'm talking about. If you just want the brain.
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Brain function and the memory and focus. They're saying half of a pill. That's interesting.
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Yep. And then. So what are some Side effects. Right. Like, I would drink a lot of water. You can get some headaches and it can dehydrate you if you don't do
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well with any type of stimulant. Even coffee. Like, I definitely would not recommend it. Or you want to maybe just ease into it, like a quarter of a pill or just people that have anxiety about anything. It's. I don't think this is the one for you.
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No, no. If you're a person that can't drink coffee because it gives you anxiety, this is probably not the thing for you to do. No.
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Over. Hyper focus can. Can affect your hunger just because kind of like tissue fencing to a degree where that's the main focus, but it can because if your heart rate's up and you're kind of spawned, you're like, I don't feel like eating.
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You don't really do. Yeah. So. So there. There's not kind of the typical things you would think of as would be side effects to somebody who took a stimulant. Sure. Nothing crazy.
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Cool. So that's. Yeah. I. But after it was right. I mean, I. I love it. I just think that it's amazing. I think the people love it, love it. And the people that just have anxiety and stuff, they obviously don't do well with it, so then they don't really think about it again.
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True.
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People love it, love it.
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People love it. And it is. And like, still the amazing thing is for me, like, I know I have lots of people in recovery and I know lots of people who've taken this. Like, everybody has been able to just stop.
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We wouldn't just be like, we wouldn't even be talking about. No.
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Hell no.
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This is the way that in, like, if we wouldn't have tried it numerous times and know for a fact that, like, they're. We're both the two of the most. We just told you. The most addictive humans on the planet. And I don't even think about it. When I'm not doing like a podcast, it doesn't even, like, cross my mind. Oh, shoot. I'll be like, oh, I didn't take the Medafield today. You know what I mean? If that was like, I was hooked on speed, trust me, I wouldn't forget. So anyways, to be clear, no, you go on into Hexa, which is why where this podcast started, because a lot of people asked us of the comparison and personally, I just don't think they compare in regards to how you feel. What do you think?
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No, I do not. So yes, we, we decided we did this because people kept asking us well, what do you think between modafinal the hexa, what do you think is better? And I mean I don't even think that they're.
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Because they read very similar like what their benefits are.
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Yeah.
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That's why we always say try it. Yeah. What does it feel like? And how to like other people, plural, like deal with it.
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So the thing of Zyhexa is. Well, it was, it was discovered at Washington State University. So go Washington. I'm from there. The basically think of Dihexa as more of a. Well, first of all it is, it's. It's healing and building up your synapses between neurons. Right. So it's not really actually even affecting the neurons. It's affecting the little synapses as you guys. As you can see right here, these little like. It's actually kind of like, kind of like electrical. Yes. The signaling pathway. So it's basically there to after maybe a TBI or some other type of brain neurodegenerative disease or something like that to help rebuild those synapses or as we as to prepare for you getting older. Everybody gets older. By the way, taking Diahex kind of proactively to keep those synapses really to keep those synapses firing. And for the most part memory. Memory is repeated and repeated in. This is. Right. Right. Sharpening your memory, building more robust memory by taking Dihexa. It is, it is a stimulant. Like if we had a scale of. Is this stimulant or depressant? Right. It's on the stimulant side. But like we said, I don't. For anybody who's a grown man who drinks coffee, I don't think you're going to feel much about from it. So I. We know tons of people though who say absolutely, I feel it. And usually they're smaller people.
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Sure.
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And they don't. Hey. They have a low tolerance for drugs in general. Yeah. Or substances degenerating brain. Right. With kind of broken dried up black synapses. And this one is a healthy one firing top condition. So again, Dihexa is. Is absolutely still being researched. It's not FDA approved. And, and you'll read. If you read up on it, there is. People will say exercise caution the most out of all of these. Why? Because there's just less data. There's just no data really out there
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for Alzheimer's though, which is, is something. If you have that in your family, which I do it that is Something you. It's. It's might be something to try and kind of take because what if, you know, what if you got that? And so it's going to kind of help not say prevent it, but it can, it can help like, like, like work on the brain because that's what it's doing.
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Mitigate a lot of those effects potentially. Yeah. Definitely not going to say it's going to cure Alzheimer's. So these are top conditions that it is actively being in. Labs across the world is being studied right now for potential breakthroughs of Alzheimer's, stroke and ischemic injury, Parkinson's, PTSD and cognitive decline. And I know also for TBIs, you know, veterans with. Who are near an explosion or football players or boxers.
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Yeah. Which. These are all big deals.
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They are really big deals. There's a lot of money.
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These are any. Like I said, if you have anything like that, you think like strokes that have gone on in your family or whatnot, run it, like, take it. You know, it's. You're not going to get the effect, like we said, of the bedafodil. In my opinion. You don't get that instant, like focus. But. But over time, I think this is the one to take.
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Yeah. Well, like, those are seriously bad deals, right. If there is some side effects to die hexa, I bet it ain't as bad as those conditions.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it'll be very interesting as, you know, the studies come out and it's studied more to see if that really does kind of start really helping with Alzheimer's and things like that.
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And this actually is so. So dihexa does have. They're still researching it, but it has some huge potential because of its BDNF, 110 million times more potent than BDNF and synaptogenesis models. Okay, that's a ton.
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Yeah.
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There is the potential of this stuff being. This being an absolute breakthrough, but research, only time will tell. Okay, dosing recommendations. So there are transdermal patches, there's caps, oral capsules, intranasals and subcutaneous. We have personally tried the subcube. It's dihexa. So far I haven't ever had any that actually mixes with water completely or any kind of reconstitution solution and then is therefore able to be injected. We are right now experimenting with nasal spray. But definitely the oral pills is the way to go. Is the. That stuff works generally, I'd say between 10 to 20 milligrams per dose.
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Yeah.
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So you'll see 10 milligram pills, often two pills a day. Our friend Paul, who's on here all the time, like, you'll see him, there's, there's old videos of him speaking at these conferences.
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Yeah.
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And he'll walk up, he's like, hey, everybody, just, just full disclosure, I. I took 20mg of Dihexa about 5 minutes ago to get ready for it. So.
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Which is funny because.
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Make him focus.
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He loves it and when. So he got me all hyped up about it because, you know, we'd always talk about it and like it took us a while to get it. So then when I finally got it, I was like thinking, I was like, it's gonna be great. Yeah, it was super focused. And I'd taken modafinil already. And then I was like, that sucked. Yeah. And like we gave Paul last time a Modafinil and he was like, whoa.
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A
Yeah, like that works. Yeah. So everybody, if you're trying to take Diaxa and looking for like some just massive.
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B
Yes, Focus. I think it's a long.
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A
You're not gonna find it kind of like.
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B
Yeah, I hope you're not good.
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A
So our next step is C Max. What we have. You'll notice on this slide it says N A. That means an acetyl C Max, which is just a modified version of C Max to help it absorb a little bit better and just work. Work a little bit better and longer in a person's body and brain. So again, these are all this, this is a nootropic. It's affecting your brain. Think of. So the BDNF brain derived neutrophic factor. Okay. This is up regulating that and is going to give you energy focus, actually increased memory, more neuroplasticity. So this is, you can almost think of it as like a mix of dihexa and Modafinil. Although it's not.
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B
Yeah.
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A
As wrong as modafinil. Yeah, but it is. This is a stimulant. So C Max is more of the stimulant side with some neuroprotective qualities.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Okay. Again, stroke defense, neural repair, broad neuroprotective profile. Like we just said, it's going to increase your dopamine, serotonin.
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B
Similar benefits of the other two. Increased focus, increase brain cognitive cognizant, clarity, motivation. Very similar. How these read on paper that they're very similar, but I've done them all and I don't feel like they are similar as they read.
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A
Yeah. Yes, nor. Nor. I don't know. You Read up things and you get really excited about, oh, this is going to be awesome. It's going to work, right? Like it's. Yes. Oftentimes these are. I don't really feel much of. Of these besides modafinil, but some people freaking love them. And my neighbor, in fact he came over to me and said, yo, I tried the C Max and holy crap. Like that has like changed my life. Like damn. Really? So some people who happen to be again with all these other like you happen to be deficient in this one little portion. Your body, your brain. And now you take this and it solves that problem. That can be a huge benefit to those who are not deficient. It's meh, take it or leave it. It doesn't really do much.
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B
Like if you're living life where you've lived so long with brain fog and just like a lack of mental clarity to the degree where like you have just become to think that that's normal.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And you've can break through that. You're amazed at the clarity and the quickness of thought. You know, I got a lot of that on ketogenic diets because my and fasting focus was just off the damn charts. Kill it on the phone was in sales. So if you haven't felt that clarity in a while, it's possible you. That's why you want to kind of try them. I don't say it all at once, but try them because everybody's going to respond differently to all these.
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A
So you basically with C Max there is nasal sprays that work and there are. And subcutaneous injection also works. Onset 15 to 30 minutes post administrative administration for the intranasal, about 20 to 45 minutes. So the sub Q. I don't know, man. I kind of always prefer doing an injection. I just think it works better. Yeah, I do with everything other than maybe like sometimes a PT141, you just. Well, that's stuff's strong. Nasal spray might be a little bit better and Milano tan just to get a smaller, really small dose of it.
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B
But if you're going to do like a micro dose like we've talked about for the people that do the PT141 daily used to one little spray.
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A
So it is. So here we go, guys. Here's the actual dosing chart. And again we make this. These slides available to everyone so you can slow down and actually look at them and refer back to them. Okay. But the subcutaneous. Okay, so these are, you know, 200 micrograms. Okay, beginner dose. Thank you. 200 micrograms. About. All right. Standard dose up to 5 or 600. I personally take 500 micrograms which is half of a milligram. Obviously you will see C Max coming in. Heck, it comes in all different types of bottles. 5mg. 10, 15, 20C max to length mixed together. But you can everybody take a look at this dosing chart. But, but yeah, about about half of a milligram daily. Good starter. And I would do it daily. Even though onset they say 20, 40 minutes. It really helps. Like you got to be consistent and do this daily over some time and then it will really start to work and you start to feel for sure.
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B
Okay, absolutely.
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A
So there we go. The next one is sea lanks. So again in the sea like sea lank is, you will hear CMAX and cell like mentioned always together. And you also hear Russia. Like these, these drugs are being used and happily used all across Russia and have been for long, 15, 20 years. Okay. And used as antidepressants like CMAX is absolutely used as like a normal antidepressant that they give in Russia.
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B
That's so cool.
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A
So think of sea link as kind of the opposite of cmax. Okay. C Max is going to get you up. Sea lank is going to bring you down in a good way like anti anxiety. So yeah, it's an Ngolytic. Okay. You will it. It affects your GABA in your brain. Right. Serotonin. Like I said before, with serotonin is our happy but calming neurotransmitter. Okay. Notice we don't really see any norepinephrine or noradrenaline because well, that's not what this does. So the. I don't know you know anybody. So this is a good chart. It kind of describe. So it is most similar to a benzodiazepine, which is Xanax.
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B
Hell yeah.
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A
But those benzos are. Have way higher abuse potential. They work a lot faster apparently in the drug in the like in pharmacology, the faster acting a drug is the way higher abuse potential. It is.
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B
Yeah.
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A
They want it now because for whatever reason, just like oxycontins, right. The, the. It's still heroin. But they thought that the slow release would make the heroin not addictive.
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B
Yeah, but it did it out.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Now it's, now it's quick.
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A
But if we compare these, right. They are both list angiolytic effects comparable to diazepam in the edible animal models. That's actually quite impressive. I really wouldn't say that Sealank is as strong as diazoam. But in animal models, apparently it says this. Minimal to no sedation or motor impairment. Right. Whereas a true benzo, you're gonna kind of start to fall asleep and drool on yourself. And you should not be driving a car or operating heavy machinery. I hate actively so Sea Lang actively enhances memory, attention and learning. So sweet. Despite its calming effect, it's not like calming and. And brain numbing and focus drooling. Right. It's calm focus. Right.
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B
That's why they say to run it with C Max.
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A
Yeah. That's why it's not a problem.
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B
They work so well together. Yeah, calm but not jittery. Calm.
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A
Absolute Benzos caused receptor down regulation. So causes you. You start building intolerance to benzos.
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B
Well, here's. Here's one I think we want to go through because a lot of people, it literally says it here. High dependency and severe withdrawal risk. Anybody that doesn't know about benzos, we know them well. We've seen. I've seen every person come off every drug you can think. Even alcohol. Alcohol is brutal too. It's al. It's benzos, then alcohol and then even heroin.
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A
Yeah. Yeah.
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B
People coming off alcohol is br.
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A
So. But. Well, okay, yes. So benzos and alcohol, those withdrawals will kill you because you have a seizure, right? They in withdrawals, you can seize up absolutely. From them. The benzo withdrawal makes you crazy and it lasts for a long time. And people go just like. Just crazy. It's really gnarly. Like, alcohol withdrawal ain't that bad, but it carries the. The death risk, which is bad. Opiate straight up or the like, worst acute feeling you can ever possibly imagine. But, but low, low dependency liability. Now you don't want to just go on high doses of cell anc forever. Okay. You won't really be dependent on it, but it will. I mean, just like everything else.
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B
Well, you don't want to be dependent on anything. None of us do want to be in bondage to anything. Right. So you want to. Like, obviously the obvious answer is here, obviously we want to go this route because that's a no. No. If you get hooked on that, you're screwed. It's gonna be a. To come off. Trust us. Why not go here and give it some time? Like, like Will said, let it build up. It might not fix you tomorrow, but, like, let it build up and let the body catch up and let your body get used to the compound. And I bet you all of a sudden you'll just realize, well, I haven't been that stressed lately. It's subtle. That's what we want.
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A
Absolutely. Dosing. So just like C Max, C Lang can come in a nasal spray or subcutaneous dosing is about the same thing, folks. So starting dose between like 200 to, to 5, 600 micrograms daily.
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B
Keep a symbol. Half mig.
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A
Yes, I just do a half a mig daily grand now. Oh, we're gonna compare. I don't know. Kind of give you a, A wrap up.
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B
Yeah.
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A
As we, as we go through these. So I don't know. J.D. give us a. I think everybody break
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B
down like we said. We said it to the point where it's probably bugging people, but maybe not. So you have to try them. Your body is so different than my body. Will's body is so different than my body. He has problems with nad. I have no problems with nad. I could go on forever. So this is how these things read. If you look into these compounds, they will all have very similar benefits. What people will say they don't have those. In my opinion, I've done them all.
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A
So.
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B
But that's how my body responds. So I don't have anxiety. So that's not something I've ever dealt with. But I know a lot of people struggle with them. And I can do high doses of like stimulants because it just, that stuff doesn't fix. I could drink a bot. A, a whole thing of coffee and go right to bed.
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A
Absolutely.
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B
You know what I mean? And that's one cup of coffee for somebody. Can't. They'll never sleep all night. Right. So the point is try them not all at once. What is your main problem? What is your objective? What are you trying to. To accomplish? Now Sea Lock and C Max are going to probably where you want to be start first because I think they're the most subtle and they're gonna. You run them together, preferably there. We've always said that you can do them separately, but I think they work a little bit better in tandem. Now there's a, there's a blend because they work so well. The Russians say take them together and they know what they're talking about. So start there. That's what I would recommend, is to start there. If you struggle with anxiety, the obvious is the long, right? And you can run C long with the modafinil. You know, you can run that compound with any of these. But if you. Again, you just try it. You got to try it for you. And go slow.
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A
Don't do a lot. Go yes. So we're gonna show everybody a few just different charts comparing these things. Okay. It's cool. Modafinil. C Maxi. Like Diahexa. Okay. Wakefulness. Modafinil.
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B
Hi.
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A
You're the winner.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Moderate. Select low and diagnosis low. Even though this is a stim, it does stimulate, but like it really doesn't. Not, not on any type of scale. Focus, High. High. Focus, Moderate. Moderate. Memory, Moderate. Modafinil, C Max and Dihexa.
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B
Okay, so let's go back on the focus. So you got. So focus is going to be. Because a lot of people struggle with that. So if you have a very important something coming up. But Apple is going to shine for sure. I'm going to tell you, C Max, it's going to shine too. And the other two not going to work so well. So I like that focus and I think a lot of people have a problem with that.
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A
Memory. Okay. Memory. Moderate. Modafinil is just about focus, energy. Okay. C Max. Good. It is neuroprotective and neuroplasticity. That's awesome. Same thing with Dihexa. Clank. Not really great on that. Anxiety reduction. Celanq is your winner.
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B
Okay.
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A
That's the goal. That's what it's for. Neuroplasticity again, look at the correlation. Neuroplasticity and memory. Right. C Max and Dihexa. Hi. Hi. Hi.
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B
Hi. I think, I think if it's memory and if you do have like some just, you know, a lot of stuff going on in your family, like strokes and things like that, I would recommend the Dihexa and run it for a little while and, and just be preventative of that stuff because you're not going to feel it right away. But that's what it's known to do.
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A
Oh, this is good. So let me. I guess I'll give you a quick breakdown of what the different. The kind of four differences are here and I would like it for here. So Modafinil again is, is energy and focus right now. And it will work 200 milligrams a day. Okay. Very similar to that is C Max. That's a stimulant. Think of it that way. Stimulant, but also neuroprotective. Sealink is a. Anti anxiety. Dihexa. Really? I would personally use Dihexa for healing of brain synapses, like healing from some, some brain disorder or TBI and, or preparing your brain as you get older to, to, to keep those synapses lively. Also those who are sensitive to it, you can Take that as some. A quick focus hit before a presentation anytime, something like that that you need to speak for. Think clearly. Okay so those are the types of people that need them. Here is you want to. Let's. Let's take a look at any other. Anything else stand out to you?
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B
Fda. So when you said Manafio is fda.
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A
Yep.
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B
So the C LANC is going to be the research. For research purposes obviously cmax which is strange because it's been researched. Yeah.
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A
So like fda Modafinil United States FDA approved. Right. For these all for narcolepsy and sleep disorders in Russia. Sealank and CMAX are approved by their. Their version of our fda. Yeah okay. But here they are just research approved peptides and Dihexa is anywhere is just a research chemical only another good one
- [41:41]
B
is duration of action. So how long that it's going to work for you? So the modafinil is 12 to 15 hours. So like we said if you're will said he could take it at 3 and go to bed. So that's great. But I'm going to tell you like a lot of people that's not going to be the case even myself included. And I don't really have a problem falling asleep. Usually I full right of bed. If I take it too late I will. So you got the duration. So 12 to 15 hours for one
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A
day is a lot. Right.
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B
So then you got the C max and C long. You got C long is 4 to 6 hours and then the C max 4A. See that. And then here's the crazy one. DXA potentially weeks. Very long lasting.
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A
It's great. I mean that preventative and that's awesome. That's why it actually can. I mean things take a long time to heal. If you have something that's trying to heal synapses that works for two hours it probably ain't gonna be very effective. Right. But that is cool. Yes. Potentially weeks. Right. And then onset speed Dihexa guys hours to days. It's a cumulative effect so it needs to be. Don't even. I would definitely not expect to feel anything the day one that you take it. Right. Cumulative over time. Right. And any cmax C Lang supposed to be minutes. Well intranasal supposed to be minutes. I think that you'll find that it's
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B
about the same compounds as you take it.
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A
Yes it does definitely compound dependency risk. Okay. Modafinil is low. Everything else is. Well we don't know about Dihexa but it. I think it's probably very low dependency Risk very low for Sea Lang very low for C Max and low for Modafinil. It still is pretty dang low on
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B
this the drug scale human trial data was a good one. So here's what Daphnel extensive decades of clinical use.
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A
Right.
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B
That's why it's been FDA approved Then you got so for the C L is going to be moderate CMAX extensive human trials obviously for Russia and then the DEXA very limited as you said so that's good to know.
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A
Those of you who want brain so enhanced learning speed, potential cognitive repair neuroplasticity, memory formation, happy growth Di Hexa if I had, if I was someone who wanted to take these for I want to get smarter you know I would probably. Well I want to actually get smarter. I would take C Max and Dihexa if I didn't have time to actually get smarter But I wanted to perform the best I possibly can right now on a test I would take Modafinil.
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B
Sure.
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A
But those of you brain, you know keeping your brain nimble and doing. Doing push ups in your brain doing all these different brain exercises is actually a big thing and it's proving that it actually really works. So those of you who do that
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B
have you ever tried to meditate like or like manifest like it takes a. You have to seriously think very directly and it. You're exhausted when you're done together.
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A
What can be taken together? CMAX ceiling so it is, it is sold and absolutely comes together. You maybe say well one's up and one's down. Why do they not contradict each other? Well the downer is actually a. Is a anti anxiety focus. Right. This one is a neuroprotective. C Max is neuroprotective and energy and so they actually work very well together.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know the Modafinil and C Max the two stimulants they. It's okay, you can take them together. Although if you are a person who is sensitive to anxiety you may not
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B
want to do that. I say go. I don't think either of those are going to stimulate to the degree where you even if you're anxiety written just add in the seal on control.
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A
I think that actually would be great. I mean that is the neuroplasticity amplification. Yeah. So everybody make your own decisions. But there is some information you actually know a woman who competes in like strong man but she got. She gets really nervous before competitions and didn't want and then so got so nervous before one of them that she did not do well. Right. Because her nerves just took over. So she took, she took cellank beforehand, like I think a thousand micrograms. And she said that that was. God, she took. Well, she took way too much before a, before an actual like athletic event. And it definitely, she said it definitely kind of dropped her anxiety to where she was and that amped up at the point. To the point that she needed to be.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So around them both. Don't take that much, folks. I mean don't take twice the dose, but you know. Yeah. If it's the most important thing in your life and it's like a fitness competition, maybe don't take the downer before you do it.
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B
I mean, dude, if you, if you're in fitness competitions, everybody gets nervous once you start.
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A
Yeah. Are you nervous anymore? Yeah, no.
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B
I mean, do you even think about it anymore?
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A
You shouldn't.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I mean the worst part of playing football is sitting in the locker room before the game.
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B
Right?
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A
God.
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B
Man, let's go.
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A
Sucks. Can we just play?
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B
Yeah. Good stuff.
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A
So there we go, man. I mean that is the breakdown of all four of those nootropics and oh,
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B
Scott, that was right.
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A
I think, I think we're not telling anybody to. We're not selling any of these drugs. So don't get mad at us about trying to sell Modafinil. We're just trying to provide people with what they've asked about, what we've done, what, what they've asked for, etc.
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B
So we now we compared four for you. So that's it. We're going to veg and we do got a treat for you. Should I tell them who I talked to that agreed to come?
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A
Oh yeah, that's cool. Yes, absolutely.
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B
So the owner of Genoshick, which is the, the main testing site for peptides, even like steroids. They've been around forever and they're. We're gonna have him on the show. Peter Magic is his name and finally agreed to come on. So that's gonna be fun for us.
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A
Absolutely.
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B
I'm really curious about the genesis of how it started. What he's. How would even got him into that and how he became one of the basically the most
- [47:48]
A
well known, recognized international. They're in Lithuania. They started in Lithuania or the Czech Republic, I think they're now in Lithuania. But like. Yes, they've been. They made their, they made their name from testing steroids. Everybody's sending in their steroid samples. You get to test the COA back and you can go just, you can go check your results on the website. And they built a big following like that. And then peptides emerged and they've. And they have transitioned really well there and they. I. I probably see more Janoshake tests than anything else.
- [48:19]
B
So if you have been following and you're looking at them, you've seen Janoshuk everywhere. So he's coming on the show. That's gonna be great. I'm excited to learn a little bit about how all that started.
- [48:27]
A
Yep. So we've had some. We've had in some of our businesses. We've sent some stuff in and actually somewhat. Most recently someone, I will leave out specifics, but emailed us back and said, where did you get this stuff that's actually real? We have never seen such an influx of just of fake things. What the hell? We haven't seen this real specific compound in a long, long time. Damn. Where'd you get it?
- [48:52]
B
Funny. That's why this guy's been doing this for a long time. That's why I love him. But I'll tell you a funny story a little ways. A friend of mine sent me a text and said, hey, can I get Will's number? Because I wanted to get to, you know, where he. You know, where he gets his compounds. And I start laughing like, bro. What think like, like company tell you in their secrets, bro. I started laughing that he even asked for that. So funny. Yeah. You mean he's been like 10 years cultivating this relationship. Here you go, bro. Yeah, we love you. I'm sorry, dude.
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A
So I'm not gonna give you all of our contacts.
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B
Funny, funny people.
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A
But.
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B
So that's exciting. I'm gonna try to. We'll try to get on maybe next week. So we'll try to work that out. But other than that, we're going to Vegas. We'll see you guys next time.
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A
That's it.