Peptide Q&A #43 – Mitochondrial Stack Order, Sleep & Cortisol, Bone Density & Body Recomposition

Summary

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Peptide of The Week Podcast: Episode Q&A #43

“Mitochondrial Stack Order, Sleep & Cortisol, Bone Density & Body Recomposition”

Hosts: JD Denham & Will Haas
Date: May 28, 2026

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Episode Overview

This Q&A episode of Peptide of The Week dives deep into advanced peptide protocols for performance, recovery, and wellness. JD and Will answer audience questions on stacking mitochondrial peptides, managing sleep and cortisol, optimizing body composition, supporting bone density, choosing effective dosing regimens, and more. The pair also discuss industry myths, practical lessons from their own journeys, and actionable, no-BS advice for listeners ranging from hardcore athletes to health-focused novices.

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Key Discussion Points & Takeaways

1. Opening Banter: Partnership Dynamics and Business Philosophy

• [01:09–04:49]
  • JD and Will reflect humorously on their Vegas trip and business partnership, emphasizing how their complementary strengths keep the podcast and community running smoothly.
  • “All the stuff you were saying that you love, and I was like, oh my god, I just hate that. Like, I hate that.” — JD [04:25]
  • “That's perfect. So it's perfect.” — Will [04:35]
  • They stress mutual respect and staying in their respective "lanes" as friends and business partners.

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2. Peptide Sourcing, Manufacturing, and Myths

• [04:51–13:27]
  • Where Peptides Really Come From: Discussion of how most peptide raw materials originate from China or other countries with looser environmental regulations. “Made in America” typically means compounded and bottled domestically, not manufactured.
  • Salient Point: Even big pharma (e.g., Pfizer) sources raws from China; the difference is mainly quality assurance and testing.
  • Testing & Purity Myths:
    • Don't get hung up on “99.9%” purity—most pharmaceuticals (including those from CVS) fall below that.
    • Endotoxin and solvent levels must be interpreted with context to each peptide; comparing "MOT C10 vs. MOT C40" as an example.
    • “Literally nothing you take is over 99.9%. So why, why that threshold with peptides?” — Will [06:40]
  • Key Risks with Foreign Sourcing:
    • Main concerns are endotoxins, heavy metals, residual solvents.
    • Quality companies triple-verify for these, and if a product passes, the origin matters less.
  • “But we can test for this… once you have a test back… I don’t give a shit where it came from.” — Will [13:03]
  • Economy means raws will keep coming from overseas; US can’t manufacture at scale due to EPA standards.

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3. Mitochondrial Peptide Stack Order & Protocols

• [13:45–21:18; revisited 25:32–29:31]
  • Optimal Sequence: SS31 → MOT-SC → SLP-332
    • For repair and performance, start with SS31 (to “insulate the house”), then add in MOTS-c ("turning on the heat") for energy, then optionally SLP-332 for athletic stamina/endurance.
    • “SS31 is going to repair the mitochondria first, then go into the MOTS-c.” — JD [20:00]
    • “First you want to…like insulating the house. Right? Then we're turning the heat on.” — Will [21:46]
  • Order is key: Taking MOTS-c before SS31 can backfire if mitochondrial health is poor.
  • Foundational “stack” advice:
    • Prioritize sleep, sunlight, hydration, movement, protein, resistance training, blood sugar control for mitochondrial health. Peptides are layered after these basics.
    • “Build your foundation and then build on top of it.” — JD [28:06]
  • On FoxO4: Some buzz for cell “clean-up,” but both hosts aren’t convinced of its standout impact vs. established lifestyle levers or fasting.

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4. Stack/Protocol Recommendations Based on Audience Q&A

• [13:45–61:08]

Peptide Stacks for Women (Body Composition, Mitochondria, Recovery)

• Go slow, titrate based on effect, clarify dosing units.
• NAD+: Aim for 25–50 mg per dose, ramp up slowly to avoid side effects ("overwhelming tingling").
• GLO Blend: Use as labeled (~10 units), but don’t exceed GHK-Cu safety threshold.
• Tesamorelin: For women, start low (250–500 mcg), max out at ~1 mg; watch for water retention.
• Body Recomposition: For fat loss and muscle maintenance, prefer Retatrutide ("Retta") over Tirzepatide; especially at low doses, the switch is straightforward ([19:27–19:57]).
• Athletic Support: SLP-332 for stamina/endurance (esp. for Pilates, Yoga types).
  • “If you take the Matzi first and your mitochondria is not doing well…just repair it first then go in for the MOTS-c.” — JD [21:57]
• Creatine: Highly recommended for all, including women ([51:36]).

Peptide Stacks for Osteopenia, Bone Density, Older Populations

• [55:27–58:44]
• Secretagogues or HGH (for 50+, esp. women) shown to support bone density and overall tissue repair.
• Emphasize resistance training alongside peptide therapies.
• “If your HGH levels are elevated … that will absolutely help increase your bone density.” — Will [56:32]
• Optimize hormone levels (testosterone, estrogen, etc.) and consult expertise beyond typical primary care recommendations.

Peptide Stacks for Men/Performance (HGH, Bulk/Cut, Recovery)

• [29:33–39:14]
• Stack AOD, Wolverine, D-SIP, Somatropin (HGH), MK-677 for very advanced body recomposition; add TRT if age-appropriate.
• Prefer real HGH to secretagogues for men 40+, secretagogues more appropriate for younger or with intact pituitary function.
  • “HGH is a long play and very subtle… it's absolutely better the older you are.” — Will [30:49]
• Clarification on HGH brands/dosing: All Somatropin/Saizen/Genotropin are equivalent; IU = IU.
• Consider Tesamorelin + Ipamorelin blend as most effective secretagogue stack for older males and fat burning.

Managing Plateaus, Sleep, and Cortisol (Firefighters & Shift Workers)

• [40:45–46:28]
• Rapid weight loss + increased waistline measurements are indicative of effective body recomposition, even if scale weight stalls.
• Main advice: Prioritize sleep for fat loss; cortisol (from poor/irregular sleep, stress) will blunt fat loss even with perfect diet/training/peptide stack.
  • “Sleep is the absolute…most important thing. You heal. Your body heals in that sleep.” — JD [44:02]
• For firefighters: Consider Tessa Morelin + Retatrutide (dosage: ~1mg 3x/week), AM dosing if sleep is affected.
• Lifestyle hacks: magnesium, ashwagandha, sun exposure, walking barefoot, basics of ancestral living all emphasized ([44:54–45:56]).

Peptides for Perimenopausal Women, Young Athletes, and Inflammation

• [49:27–51:36]
• For inflammation/chronic pain: BPC-157/TB-500 ("Wolverine blend") is the goto.
• Sermorelin is a good secretagogue for peri/postmenopausal women; NAD+ and B12 can also help.
• For young athletes: Generally, avoid peptides—except BPC-157/TB-500 if injured.

GLP-1s, Insulin Resistance, & Nutrition

• [58:46–65:30]
• GLP-1s (e.g., Tirzepatide, Retatrutide) often shift body comp ahead of pure weight loss; can change blood sugar setpoints so “hypoglycemic” symptoms may be the body adjusting (see “Peptide 11 Mom” story).
• Nutrition tip: maintain high protein, avoid severe caloric restriction to preserve metabolism. Semi-glutide not praised for longevity/inflammation—Retatrutide is preferred.
  • “Take 0mg of semaglutide. Semaglutide sucks. Run aboard. It sucks.” — Will & JD [52:18]
  • “Make sure [your daughter is] eating enough…protein, electrolytes, food quality is good.” — JD [61:34]
• For anxiety-prone, avoid NAD+ if worsens symptoms; experiment with add-ons (L-carnitine), and emphasize purpose/serving others for mental wellbeing:
  • “If she just starts like serving and going to feed some homeless people…she will feel amazing.” — JD [62:05]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On business partnerships:
  “All the stuff you were saying that you love, and I was like, oh my god, I just hate that. Like, I hate that. It’s perfect.” — JD & Will [04:25–04:36]
• On product sourcing:
  “If it says Made in America, they are compounded here. The raws come from China. If they tell you otherwise, either they don’t know, which is a problem, and, or they’re lying.” — JD [09:21]
• On purity myths:
  “Literally nothing you take is over 99.9%. So why, why that threshold with peptides?” — Will [06:40]
• On muscle vs. fat on scales:
  “How do you feel, how you look? Muscle weighs way more than fat…that’s what we call body recomposition.” — Will [67:47–68:05]
• On the power of foundational basics:
  “…old school stuff that like I think we all did so much more a long time ago… faces in a phone. Get back to the basics.” — JD [44:43–45:54]
• On sleep and fat loss:
  “Cortisol takes the top seat even over testosterone.” — JD [44:02]
• On community contribution:
  “Our purpose in life is to help other people. Try it. Watch. See if I’m wrong.” — JD [62:05]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [01:09–04:49] – Business partnership dynamics, Vegas trip insights
• [04:51–13:27] – Peptide sourcing, manufacturing, testing, “Made in America” myths
• [13:45–21:18; 25:32–29:31] – Mitochondrial stack order (SS31 → MOTS-c → SLP-332), foundational habits, peptide benefits
• [29:33–39:14] – HGH, secretagogue comparisons, dosages, stack recommendations for men
• [40:45–46:28] – Weight loss plateaus, sleep, cortisol/sunlight/stress hacks
• [49:27–51:36] – Peptides for inflammation, perimenopause, and youth athletes
• [55:27–58:44] – Osteopenia/bone health: peptides, hormones, and resistance training
• [58:46–65:30] – GLP-1s for insulin resistance, body recomposition, anxiety management
• [66:07–68:26] – Body recomposition vs. scale weight, closing advice

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Community & Further Resources

• Podcast Community ("School"): Free and paid content available. More detailed, doctor-backed protocols for $25/month; VIP access $60/month.
• Next Episode Teaser: Interview with Peter Magic of Jano lab – send in questions about independent peptide/steroid testing.

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Closing Thoughts

JD and Will’s energetic, honest Q&A leaves listeners with practical protocols, a deeper understanding of peptide sourcing, and repeated reminders: build a foundation (sleep, diet, exercise, mindset) before complicated stacks; context is everything; and real, sustainable results trump internet “miracles.”

“We appreciate you guys. We love you. See you next time.” — JD [68:26]
"Good night, America." — Will [68:31]

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Transcript

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[JD Denim]

Welcome back to the Pep Tat of the Week podcast. I'm your host, JD Denim. Across the way, like always, my good friend, Mr. William T. Haas. Happy Tuesday.

[William T. Haas]

Happy Tuesday. And Happy Monday, not Memorial Day.

[JD Denim]

Kept thinking it was Monday. Driving in, I'm like, oh, it's Tuesday. I know. I was thinking about our meeting that we usually have on Monday. I'm like, oh, it's Tuesday. So.

[William T. Haas]

So no meeting. I guess. I guess we kind of had the meeting over the weekend.

[JD Denim]

Yeah. We just got back from Vegas, which is great. We did a quick little turnaround trip. That was my first time on J jsx. Jsx. Y Rad.

[William T. Haas]

It was rad. Bloop.

[JD Denim]

Just jump right on the plane. I will fly that any chance I get.

[William T. Haas]

Yes. That was amazing, actually. So much.

[JD Denim]

Pat it down, take your shoes off.

[William T. Haas]

And just dealing with the crowds and at the airport and then squeezing into the airplane. Especially going to Vegas where it's a 40 minute flight, like. Right. Just spend three times that time getting ready in line.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Haas]

Although when we did take off for the first time, it struck me that like, dude, I mean, like a paper airplane. This is kind of sketchy. I'm really scared of heights. And like in a big airplane, I don't get that. There is no. I don't get the fear of heights because I feel like I'm just in an enclosed, like building.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Haas]

And it not. Not on my own out there looking over an edge. Right. But this one, Yes. I felt like I was. I could see the ground going away. I'm going, oh shit. I look into that. Just close the window. And we were bumpy. The whole way, dude.

[JD Denim]

It was just like.

[William T. Haas]

It was. It was up and down, but that's. It's nice.

[JD Denim]

Little shaky.

[William T. Haas]

It's nice. Yeah. And I don't care. It's okay. You just got to come to PE can either just be sit there and just miserable and stressed out or just come. I just had to go, okay, I will die. I will die today. Yeah, dude. If I die, die, like there's nothing stopping it falling, following that. No, no, I'm gonna do it right? Just gotta embrace it and just go, well, let's live the best I can in these next 30, 40 minutes.

[JD Denim]

Yeah. We were up at Vegas, which was great. We will and I got some time to sit down with no distractions and kind of suit the objective of the trip, which is just plot some stuff and what we want in the future. And it was funny. After the meeting we had, I already knew this, but it was very, very shown very vividly again, that Will is great at what he does, and he does not like what I do, and I am great at what I do, and I do not like what he does. And a lot of times we are both doing our things in the business, and we don't even know what each other's doing. And it just goes, well, yeah, because we are so honest of what we love. He said, well, what do you hate? And he goes, he tells me. And I'm like, that's my favorite.

[William T. Haas]

Yeah.

[JD Denim]

I swear, like, this is perfect.

[William T. Haas]

It is perfect. I think that makes a good partnership, right? You see? You hear and see so many times. Like, don't. Do, you know, friend. Because JD and I have been friends for a long time. Like, don't go into business with your friends, right? And I don't know. That has not even shown its face at all.

[JD Denim]

As long as you have mutual respect, man.

[William T. Haas]

And it is all about mutual respect. And I think the one thing that absolutely helps is that, like, we know each other. Like, there will never be a situation where, like, why is JD in this? Why is he even. What is. What is the point? We can. I can do is I can just do that job, right? There's never that. And I was like, either way, right?

[JD Denim]

Hands down, because it was so funny, bro. I was like, all the stuff you were saying that you love, and I was like, oh, my God, I just hate that. Like, I hate that.

[William T. Haas]

It's perfect. So it's perfect.

[JD Denim]

So we stayed our. Our own lanes. And they go, well, yeah, but a big stuff, man. I mean, we are excited. We tomorrow, which will be Dropping on Monday, we're going to have Peter Magic from Jano coming on and man, I'm excited about that.

[William T. Haas]

That's dope, man.

[JD Denim]

So for anybody listening, it'll up on Monday, but we get to talk about basically the guy that created the testing. They started with steroids, stuff like that, but now they've obviously moved into peptides. And man, it'll be good to kind of just decipher what he's seen, what's changed, what he sees coming down the pike. Yeah, yeah. Are a lot of the products that he tests, do they test out? I don't know if he'll answer that.

[William T. Haas]

Yeah, I don't know. I have a bunch of questions that I'm going to ask him pre to see what his answers are, see if he will answer. Because there's a lot of, a lot of things that people don't understand when looking, just looking at a test report, you know, I mean, so many things. Like just for example, like endotoxins. Okay. So you can't look at an end of, let's say for example, mot C10, right. And a mot C40. Okay. The endotoxin reporter should be four times higher on the mot C40, by the way. So you can't go, oh, Motsi 40. Oh, the average. Where it should be between 1 and 2 and this mod C40. Oh, it's a pen or something. That's. Oh, that's bad. Like, no, that's. It's four times as much. Therefore it's going to have four times this also like hgh basically. Like, if you have him, I'm gonna ask him about this, we'll confirm this. But you're not gonna see anything like really above like a 97, 98. There just is. There is a threshold of purity that just has to. That just. It cannot be beat. Like you're never going to ever see. Well, 100 of H96 high. 96 point. You know, 8 is like about. Is almost perfect. As good as you're ever going to get.

[JD Denim]

I mean, I mean, what are like a lot. What is the, the threshold, I think for like CVS stuff? Like, isn't it like 80?

[William T. Haas]

Yeah, I think.

[JD Denim]

I don't want to brutalize.

[William T. Haas]

It's something like 92. Okay, that was lower and right. But then everybody wouldn't talk about peptides is like, oh, I gotta have 99.9. Because you realize like, literally no, nothing that you take is over 99.9%. So why, why that threshold with peptides is because Some Tik Tok just broke 99.9 and said, yeah, that's what ours is lying.

[JD Denim]

They're from the usa. No, they're not.

[William T. Haas]

No, they're not.

[JD Denim]

All right.

[William T. Haas]

Just so you know.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Haas]

Yes.

[JD Denim]

It's fun though, because I mean the cool thing is so many people are, are intrigued and they're into it and we love it. Unfortunately, like very few, if any, unless they do really deep research on learn reading those, those actual reports are going to know what the hell they are, but they're to ask for them. You know, part of the game. It is what it is. And a lot of people, like I said, is they don't know that the stuff that comes from CVS comes from China. So you don't know that I'm bursting your bubble now that this stuff. I don't want to take the China stuff. Then don't go to any pharmacy in America because most of it comes from China especially. Like.

[William T. Haas]

But yes, peptides, like all the raws. Raws are created in China. Like America has EPA standards and it is impossible for anybody in America to mass produce and create the raw chemical actual powder of these peptides in. In. In any type of quantity. Right? In any quantity. That's to sell. Some dude, I guarantee can make his own lab and he can make this much. Yeah, right. For like personal use. But he ain't distributing that. None of you people are going to be using that stuff. So it all has to happen in these giant manufacturing countries that have very loose laws on their environment like China. So that's where the laws come from. Made in America means. And here's an years. Here is one argument actually. So it means that they are compounded, but basically means Ross come to here, they put it, measure, put bottle put in bottle. They put a salt puck in there. And that's basically to help. It's like a preservative thing about. That's why you see something in your peptide vial. If that salt puck wasn't there, you'd go, what the hell? It would look like somebody poured powder in and then poured it out. Yeah. You'd see residue and go, wait a minute, nothing's in here. Right? That's the actual peptide. Sorry, folks, but what you see is this salt puck. It helps preserve it and keep it more stable. So they measure salt puck freeze dry, crimp lid on Made in America. Yep, that's what Made in America is. Pfizer does that.

[JD Denim]

Yes.

[William T. Haas]

Like they buy their raws from China.

[JD Denim]

That's kind of a matter of an Opinion on what, what one would want to say. Do you believe that's from America?

[William T. Haas]

Sure.

[JD Denim]

If some do, some don't. I, I don't really care. I've known for a long time where most of the stuff comes from, so I don't really care. But so now you know, if you didn't know that if it says Made in America, they are compounded here. The raws come from China. If they tell you otherwise, either don't know which is a problem and, or they're lying.

[William T. Haas]

And you know there's, there's exceptions to every rule. When we say China, that's true. Probably 90, 90, like India, there's other allied countries. So please don't.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Haas]

Say like oh, one time ever in the history of things, this little deviation occurred. Yeah, we understand. But that's, that's the general rule. That's basically how things go. Here was my thought is. So the salt puck, right. Is for preservatives and to keep it more stable. Okay. Therefore wouldn't a person, wouldn't you rather have the manufacturer, the company that manufactures the raws right now? Okay. So when they're in that raw form, that's when they're, they're most vulnerable, okay. To light, heat, contaminants, etc. When you want somebody to manufacture raws and then immediately bottle them, compound them, seal them good. Right. Instead of raws now let's take a month sometimes ship them over. Right. Like ship them over to this side of the country, right. At not. Probably not temperature controlled during shipping. Guaranteed. Like there is some. And then over here finally now compound them, right? Yeah. Instead of in leaving all of that time for degradation, etc, Right. Seems to me I'd rather just have them manufactured, bottled.

[JD Denim]

I think the important stuff is even if you choose like a telehealth or 503B whatever and you're gonna go that right route. Cool. Like here's, here's the bottom line. Like they will be tested to the degree where like you know that it's going to be the exact amount, but you're going to pay for that. They will come from the same spot. So just letting you know they were going to come from the same spots, you're just going to pay a lot more.

[William T. Haas]

And there are basically some. A couple like us. Some. A couple us FDA approved absolute labs in China. No, they are. I won't say now there's like five or something like that. And so. Yeah, and that's as good as.

[JD Denim]

But it's interesting to know that a lot of people are Neurotyped. And a lot of people probably know this, a lot of people don't. And now you know. So.

[William T. Haas]

But he's. But he's right. Like the important part though, really the important part is that what are we worried about? What are people worried about getting from China? What they're worried about is excess endotoxins. Endotoxins are toxins that have died and it's the residual dried like shell of the bacteria.

[JD Denim]

Right.

[William T. Haas]

Which still can be toxic. Heavy metals. Right. China's. They're known to have prod some products with some residual heavy metals. Residual solvents. Okay. Residual solvents means any cleaning agent that isn't adequately cleaned off.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Haas]

Right. You spray Windex in the bottle or something, pour some water, dump it out and then load the peptide in. Right. That's not. You're still going to use a Windex in there. Right. So endotoxins, heavy metals, residual solvents, that's about what that is the worry. Anything from China. Okay, so any. You should then. But we can test for this. And this is Janoshik. We'll. We'll talk about this. Good companies will kind of triple verify and test for all of those things including quality, purity, amount. And therefore once you have a test back on something that, well, that's verified three different times that says it is perfect in all those. I don't give a shit where it came from. It comes from an. I don't know anywhere.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Haas]

That means none of those bad things that we're worried about from where it came from are in place. And yeah, the only other argument would be economy and just, sorry, the raws are coming from China. There's no way. There's no way to move American jobs to make. To make the raws. That's not happening.

[JD Denim]

So if you believe that it's not American.

[William T. Haas]

America cannot do that.

[JD Denim]

Seriously.

[William T. Haas]

Okay. That's all I can say.

[JD Denim]

Well, good stuff. So we're going to dig into that tomorrow. I'm excited. Yeah. Good stuff, man. So today's Q A. We'll get after it. We had some good questions. Different. Some. Definitely some different questions. So there's been some different spins on some different questions. Not a lot of the same ones. So it's been great. Why don't you start us off, dude?

[William T. Haas]

Here we go. All right. Hi. I'm a 33 year old female. I have two kids. I work full time and I'm a fitness trainer on the side. Am I doing the right one or. I strength train, take Pilates or do yoga. Five to six days a week. On top of teaching them, I eat very high protein meals, 140 plus grams a day, and love to move my body. My current stack is NAD, five units every other day, glow. One unit every other day, tirzepatide, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 0.5 units. And Tessa Marellin, two and a half units every other day. Okay. Every other day period. I'm getting ready to phase out tirzepatide and pull in reta. My questions are one, how should I phase out Tirzepatide and switch to Retta? Two, I add MI into my stack. And three, do you have any recommendations on my current stack? Any advice is appreciated. I love your podcast and recommend it to any of my fellow gym girls and guys that are interested in learning more about peptides. Thank you.

[JD Denim]

Good stuff.

[William T. Haas]

Nice.

[JD Denim]

Awesome.

[William T. Haas]

Okay, let me go. You want to go? I'll go. So my first question is that we're saying five units. I don't. It strikes me 0.5 units. That's 0.5, right? That's. I think that's measurable on the syringe. So when we. Here, here's a good thing to just tell everybody. We're talking about units. Units is not like an international measurement. Right. A unit has absolutely no. It does. Means nothing unless it's in context. Unless you are holding a specific syringe, and on that syringe you're talking about units. So mostly we are. Everybody is talking about a 100, a U100. So an insulin syringe that fits one total. Right. And has 100 check marks. All right. Every single one check mark counts as one unit. Right. One through 100. So you usually see check mark, check mark, 10, 20. It'll actually say the words 10, 20, 30. So that 10 is 10 units, not one unit. And that 10 units is also 0.1 of a mil. My guess is that she's 50. Talking about 50. So the NAD, 50 units.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Haas]

Or so that's what I think it

[JD Denim]

read the other way. So if you are taking 0.5, which is like nothing, you're taking way too little for it to do anything.

[William T. Haas]

Yeah, right. Yeah.

[JD Denim]

If you're taking 50, that's great.

[William T. Haas]

If you're taking 50. So, yeah. So here's the thing. How about this? Clarify this nad. If you're taking five units, which would be 5 milligrams, that's very, very, very low. I think that's not really doing. I don't think that's doing anything to you. I would. Here's my Shot Nad. Honestly, I think a person should be between the regular dose, between 25 to 50 milligrams per dose. Okay. 25 to 50 milligrams. The way that I have people reconstituted, the way I reconstituted one unit is equal to one milligram. So 50 milligrams would be. 50 units would be half a syringe. But you need to work your way up to that. You cannot just start at 50 or like we were just talking to her friend. Like, you'll get an overwhelming tingling sensation where you need to sit down and breathe through it and not fall over. So if you're doing 50 units, kill. Good to go. But maybe if you're only doing five. Hey, let's work your way up. Okay. The glow. So every other day glow, one unit. I'm mad. Guess so again, I think you're doing 10 units. But it should the glow. I think that you're right. I would be doing 10 units, which works out to be a half of a milligram BBC, a half a milligram TB and 2.5 milligrams of. Of GHKCU. Yeah. Now that's great. I would do that. I wouldn't do any more than that. I. I would if. If we were talking just tb, bpc, half a milligram of each. That's about the lowest effective dose. I would at least I want you to go, you know, go a little bit more. Benefits from maintenance. The problem is the ghkcu. You don't want to go too high on that stuff. So two and a half milligrams I think is about safely really all you want to do in per dose. So nothing you can do with that. But that's a great maintenance dose and you'll notice it in your skin and your body will feel better.

[JD Denim]

Yep.

[William T. Haas]

Tess Marlin. Two and a half units. I don't know. I would do Testament for a woman. 500 micrograms. So half of a milligram maybe. Maybe even start at 250 micrograms. It's 0.25 of a milligram. Max out at a thousand micrograms, aka one milligram. I don't know if many you were worried about any some water retention that might be high for a woman. Yeah, but keep it low and consistent is better than high. And potentially getting water retention if you do that. Just lower it down now. So those are some suggestions. My guess. What does she say she's doing on

[JD Denim]

the tirzepatide if she's do it that sounds about right. She's taking 0.5, I think three times a week. I think every other day.

[William T. Haas]

Yeah. So five units Friday, five units Monday, Wednesday, Friday. So like five units Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

[JD Denim]

Here's.

[William T. Haas]

How would you do it? How would you do the switching? Here is the thing. I would say you equally. So you're doing tir. We're doing five units three times a week. I would start the reta and do start with five units maybe and like two and a half. So let's see, if we had to split it by three, I would just perfectly replace milligram for milligram until it's gone over a, I don't know, three week time period. I would just subtly enter, I don't know, introduce it. Maybe I need to think about that mat and the math on it. But go ahead, J.D.

[JD Denim]

that's a low, I mean that's a really low dose of tirzepatide. I, I think I was actually wondering how you're gonna answer that. I think because it's such a low dose, you could just switch them. Yeah, I don't think that it's really going to be that big of a difference. Now if you were taking like six MIGs. Yeah, that's a very different situation. You're taking a milligram and a half, which is really low intrazepatite. I mean, shoot. People are thinking 15 migs of that stuff. So I think if you just switched it to. To red at the same milligram, I think you do pretty good. And just doing that, I would agree that's.

[William T. Haas]

That is my problem is there's not much room to.

[JD Denim]

It's just so low.

[William T. Haas]

There's not enough room to wiggle. I would probably just.

[JD Denim]

Yep. Yeah, swamp her out one day and we'll nail it. I've heard. So Tesla Morella for women, I think he's amazing. Like he said, the only, only thing is you can gain some water weight and darling kind of, you know, get that. So that's easy to tell. Just go, go low and slow. What I would do for the so for so Mozzie, I love MOT C. I would start with SS31. Yeah, the more we've dug into that, we will probably both agree on that. Start with the SS31 because it's going to repair the, the mitochondria first and then go into the MOT C. So I would recommend starting with the SS31, then bringing the MOT C. Now if you wanted to do. Because you are an active gal and if you wanted to have especially for what type of workouts you're doing with like yoga and like pilates and all that stuff. I've been doing this yoga lotties thing with my bride like three times a week. Holy moly. Now it's a hot one. But dude, it's freaking. That's those girls get after it.

[William T. Haas]

Yeah, they do.

[JD Denim]

So I've. I've liked it, I've enjoyed it. I focus on my stomach so I love it. So. I know. So I would say throwing some salute PP332 for some stamina for you. I think that would do you wonders. I think that would be a perfect fit actually. So yeah. SS31 first didn't bring the slew for the red. I just switch it. I think. Good to go.

[William T. Haas]

I like that idea also because SS31 part of what it's doing is just is like making the outer mitochondrial shell really strong so there is no leaks. Because Mount C is now going to push a whole bunch of energy inside of this and that energy needs to be created. It needs to be shuttle to you very efficiently.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Haas]

And it can't be allowed to leak out the sides.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Haas]

So first you want to. You're basically like insulating the house.

[JD Denim]

Right?

[William T. Haas]

Right. Then we're turning the heat on so

[JD Denim]

it can be put it the heat.

[William T. Haas]

Because all these things that pop out any leaks that's like free radicals and inflammation etc and is all bad.

[JD Denim]

If you take the Matzi first and your. Your mitochondria is not doing well. We have found with some people with that have had this issue where they just get.

[William T. Haas]

Yeah.

[JD Denim]

Because they're. They're not really. It's not doing well. Like repair it first then going for the Motsi and then when you do the Matzi it will do well. Yeah. Right. Let's see here. I'm 44 year old and currently taking Ceylon for anxiety disorder. Cloth maintain good skin mot c ss 31 doctor says cellular nutrition could use work ta 1 bpc 157 mostly localized around the injury. D sip retta maintenance dose, whatever that is. And Kiss Peptin next week starting CJC IPA blend and kpv. I'll be stopping Retta next week. Can I take test of fencing while on these other things? Also I was diagnosed with osteopenia and sar sarcopenia back in February. This is the reason I'm on a few the CJC IPA and Kisspeptin. Also because I'm low a bit in estrogen and progesterone. Progesterone. Would there be a better stack? It's a good one, man.

[William T. Haas]

I think that's really good. I think that it sounds like it's a doctor that has told you this. To do this. I'm like, I want to know who that doctor is because good job.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Haas]

The doctor's using all of the resources that are available to him in medicine. Right. So good for him. I don't see any problem with anything you're taking. I don't know you, you, you know, other than what you've just what I just read, but everything looks good. To answer your question, that says absolutely. Tesla fencing, like spot on. That's a great thing to use when replacing any of the glp. So folks, if you all want to, if anybody wants to get off the GLPs to adding in like Tesla fencing would be my go to, to do the best you can to, you know, because it helps, it helps lower your appetite. It gives you some, gives you extra energy you're starting in your brain and it's kind of the next best thing.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Haas]

So yes, I think you're on the right, right track. Without knowing more. I can't really. Yeah, I, I can't, I don't know say anything to the stack. But that looks awesome. You seem like you're doing the right things.

[JD Denim]

Yeah. If you're doing some research, you've done a doctor, then you've done great. You know, you want to focus on sleep, diet and obviously Keaton, the sleep's going to keep your cortisol down. You could, you could, you're 44. You could replace the test. Tessa, she's thinking Tess, Maryland. Right. CGC. That's what I meant. I'm not a big fan of cgc. The majority of people that I have heard of run into issues with peptides because of like histamine responses is cjc. I've literally had it. My wife has had it and I know multiple people. Now I'm not saying it's a bad compound. It just runs the higher risk and I just think there's better secretagogues personally. So I would say either run Tessa Morellin, I think you'd do better with that than the CJC or HGH. 44 year old gal. You know, HGH is amazing. Just one IU is all that you would need for that. Tessa. Tessa, fencing is great. Well, I wolf agree. Now I've obviously changed my mind on it, but I love it. The only thing I would just be a little careful is because you get energy is Your anxiety ridden. So just be prepared because it does give you energy and some people that might rev up that anxiety a little bit. But just go slow. Right. I think you'd be good.

[William T. Haas]

Yeah.

[JD Denim]

Just fancy is great.

[William T. Haas]

Yes.

[JD Denim]

All right, next.

[William T. Haas]

Hey guys. I'm really enjoying all the content you put out and the school community. Right on. There's so much information to learn and absorb. It's amazing. If someone is wanting to start down the mitochondrial journey, which peptide would you recommend first then which order should you run the other peptides. I've been reading a lot of the tiered system and how one peptide will be more efficient if ran before another peptide based on how it works in your body. Thanks again. Boom. Yeah, we did kind of answer that. I think. So first of all, mitochondrial journey some things that will almost be more help to your mitochondria besides peptides and will do amazing things taken together. Right. Is like first of all let's get like our lifestyle factors dialed in. So if I don't. So sleep consistency, hydration, sunlight exercise, movement, protein intake, resistance training and what's my last thing is. Yes. Well glucose controlled like just sweets. Cut out the sweets. All of those things are kind of the basic fundamentals. Fundamentals that will your body will respond to so fast. Right. Literally and will do wonders for you. I know that's a tall order. Like if I mean easier said than done I suppose. But sleep. Sleep is huge. Start there. So then, then I think we did answer that. If you were to ask me on this guy, I'd say you start with SS31. Okay. There are a few different peptides. So SS31s is going to help help ensure the like the outer coating of your mitochondria. Okay. MOT C is going to help give some energy to the mitochondria. Fox O4 helps clear out dead cells. Not necessarily mitochondria, but cells cellular level. So then, so then we have more newer cells can keep growing, replicating and grow bigger because there's not a whole bunch of trash in front of them. NAD will help newer help cells replicate and replicate strong and big and healthy and plus giving more energy to them. There's a whole long list of things that nad will do and what are we missing? So I don't know. I would do SS31 first and then I would do Matsi. Yeah next. I'm not. I don't know. I told you what Fox 04 does. I. I don't. It's tough to quantify how much that actually works. I don't know.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Haas]

I don't know how you're gonna. I don't know.

[JD Denim]

But it works out reads. I think I've taken it once. I don't know. I fast so much. So it kind of does what fasting does with the autophagy and stuff like that. But if it does do that, which I would imagine it does, because they've obviously been looking into it, it literally wipes out dirty cells. Brand new ones take their place. You look younger, you feel younger. It's amazing. So that's what autophagy does. It's funny because I was. You were just going through your answer and mine's basically the same. I mean, I wrote down foundation, foundation, foundation, build your foundation and then build on top of it. So this isn't. We don't know if you're a man or woman. So hormones being optimized for a man or a woman are huge. It's part of that foundation. I think it's the literally like the bolts of everything. I think that's the most important then diet, exercise, resistance training, cutting out the sugars. You know, like sugar should be used as a treat, you know, and just be conscious of like seed oils best you can. People don't realize that if you just do that, gosh, man, you feel so much better. Just seed oils and sugars. If you just cut those suckers out for a month, you would feel amazing. And then you build a taunt on top of that and then will already nailed it. It's SS31. Like you said, you could run NAD. Now I would run the SS31 in the NAD and then add in the mod C. So cool.

[William T. Haas]

All right, thank you.

[JD Denim]

All right. Hi guys. I'm 61 old man. Year old man who has lifted his whole life. Hell yeah. Recently the wife and I have gotten into peptides and are seeing great results. I'm taking AOD, Wolverine, D SIP, Somatropin, and MK 677 right now. Great. I broke great. Recently you had a legendary Jay Campbell on and it was our favorite episode. However, at the end of the podcast, Jay basically said HGH was worthless. I don't remember him saying that to the to older men such as us. And you two didn't disagree with him. Was this showing difference to him? As every other podcast you two seem to say, HGH is nothing but good. I have told many people to go to your podcast. Keep it up. Keep up spreading the pep tag gospel. Phil Smith, Eugene, Oregon that was right. I don't remember that. Do you?

[William T. Haas]

I don't remember.

[JD Denim]

I don't think that I don't remember them. If I would have been conscious maybe sometimes as we're doing podcasts, everybody's know we're. You. You're kind of thinking of the next question. So sometimes you might have missed it. That probably is it because I. I don't want to answer for you, but HGH is like, you should be taking hgh. I don't remember Campbell saying that. I know Campbell and I know that he takes hgh. So I can't imagine him saying that.

[William T. Haas]

Yeah, why would. Well, here's right, right here's what I think I will say about HGH is everybody does think it's like this miracle drug, right. Like when baseball players got in trouble for using steroids and peds and everybody was like, oh, they're all taking growth hgh. Right. Everybody thought that that man is such a performance enhancing drug. Like, it's just HGH is a long play and a very. And it's very subtle. Yeah. So like somebody you introduce testosterone versus hgh. Testosterone is like hugely. You're gonna see so much more results in such shorter time. But. So HGH is not this miracle drug. It is, it does take long. It's a long term thing. I honestly wouldn't expect results for six months. Right. After doing it daily, you could do it a low dose. And I do think it's absolutely better for. The older you are, the more effective it's going to be because inherently you're going to have lower HGH levels naturally. And we need those, we need high growth levels to, to repair. Okay. And so I don't think he said that, but I do think it's not worthless. I think that in a. The question might be in an older man, the secretagogues. Okay. You know what he did say was worthless is nootropics. He said for him, he's like, I don't feel any nootropics. And I kind of agree with that. But anyway, so your pituitary, the secretagogues that tell your brain pituitary, hey man, let's go fire and make some more natural growth. If your pituitary function is not any good to start with it really, it can't be enhanced that much more. So that could be the problem. That could be a possible answer, but I definitely don't. I mean, especially you remember the new tropics.

[JD Denim]

So maybe you got it mixed up, because I do remember that. Do not.

[William T. Haas]

But dude, you've rewatched it. Like we're not. You totally could Be right. No, we do some talking. Talking, but.

[JD Denim]

So if we agreed we, we were probably not super coherent at that question, we might have been thinking of the next because we're both extremely huge f hgh and at your age, you should absolutely be taking it. I mean, dude, recovery, sleep, skin quality, bigger. I mean, I could go on and on for somebody your age.

[William T. Haas]

So one of these things. That's funny. Growth is like you take it and you go, okay. I don't know, like, you know it's working because your knuckles start to like feel swollen, right?

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Haas]

They're like, is it really doing anything? How you. So, so therefore it is subtle, but when you stop taking it, a couple weeks pass and you go, oh, that's what it was like, why am I gaining? I haven't done anything more. Why my muscles not just always full all the time and why am I losing any muscle? Because that's what normally your body happens when we're not enhanced, but so I, I totally agree that it is kind of a subtle play, but it's not worthless. And if Jay's taking it, I don't think he would say it's worthless and take it.

[JD Denim]

And on your stack. It's funny because before I got to the end of your question, I remember I was underlining and I said, great, you must be listening to the podcast because that is something that I would say to take. So I don't see TRT on here. I'm almost certain at your age you take trt, but hopefully you do. But other than that, that stack's awesome, man. I love that. And that NK677 at your age will be a little bit of bulk. Absolutely good stack. So yeah, take hgh. If we said that we spoke out of term, we agree with HGH.

[William T. Haas]

Same thing of 39 year old. 39 year old looking to start HGH. Currently taking Reddit, NAD and Wolverine for 7 weeks now. Which HGH do you find most effective? Also waiting to start Tesla or Mach C. Thoughts on that as well. Wanting to really lean out. 58188 thanks for the insight and inspiration. Number one, Idaho potato farmer. Okay, so first answer, you said, hey, which HGH do we find most effective? So I actually meant to bring like an example, but here are some clarifications. You will see Somatropin, you'll see Serostim, Gingerbread, Gentropin. They're all the same. Those are brand names. And usually brand names devised named after like the delivery system. Right. So like there's no difference. They're all recombinant. Right. HGH, 191amino acids. All right. There's no difference. Okay. Whether you have a pen, injecting it, whether you do the own injection, it doesn't matter. IU for iu, same thing. Okay. Then the question might be they've seen what's. So what, what should I do? 100 IU kit, 150 IU kit, 200 IU kit or. Or 240 IU kit. Right. There's no difference. Also, those are all the same. And all they are is like a six pack, 12 pack, 18 pack and a 30 pack. All you're getting is just more, more, more substance in, you know, and you're getting the cost more, but a little bit better price because you're buying more in bulk. So that's the only difference. So there you go. And he might be talking about, like

[JD Denim]

when people say grow HGH peptides, they're usually talking about secretagogs. So some people get confused by actual hgh, which is. We like so Somatropin.

[William T. Haas]

Yeah.

[JD Denim]

Which is actual hgh. You're injecting HGH compared towards the secretagogues. Different in different ways with what they do. But like cjc, Tessa, Marellin, ipamilin, you know, all those, they're going to help your body to make its own home. You're not injecting hgh. Your body's. It's going to help your body to improve, make more. So for older people, that's why we generally ask, well, how old is he? Oh, he's over 40. So we'll generally say so much trope and HGH. If it was like a 23 year old, I would say stay away from security.

[William T. Haas]

I wouldn't do anything anyway.

[JD Denim]

Yeah, stupid like, but yeah. So like age plays a role in some of this. And just, you know, on a side note, and we appreciate every one of these questions, one thing that I would like, you know, for listeners, if you're going to write in especially male, but even women, like, let us know, like if you are hormonally off, if you are taking testosterone and just a little extra sometimes with those types of things can give us a little bit better of a answer because we know a little bit more about you.

[William T. Haas]

Yep. So the answer, let's say which gross HGH secretagogue do you think is the best? I would go with the Tessamorelin ipamorellin blend. Okay. The final answer, Tessamorelin is awesome. I just think that it is great. Yeah, it's going to help burn fat. It's going to help burn your belly fat. It's going to help burn visceral fat, which is the fat on your organs. And that's the balance of that stuff. Yeah. And will and be very effective. And then ipamorelin is there to just kind of help out, push more growth or one they synergistically work better. Right. Taking Tesla by itself is going to be effective, but taking Tesla and EPA is has a synergistic effect. So that would be my choice also. If you do. But you're also saying also want to start Tesla. So if you take like here's the thing. HGH, exogenous HGH, 191amino acids. And you're already taking that. And then you take a secretagog. Also your brain's pituitary is not going to be open to making it more natural growth hormone because it goes, hey, how much do I have? A whole a lot already. You give it a secretagogue, it's going to go, sorry, dude, I already have a lot. And it's not the secretagogue. Adding tesamorelin on top of actually exogenous HGH isn't going to do much. Although you will get the effects of the fat. Fat burning visceral fat, lot of Tessa Marlin.

[JD Denim]

Okay.

[William T. Haas]

And then it's up to you to choose Tessa IPA. A 5 milligram, 5 milligram, 10 milligram, 3 milligram.

[JD Denim]

Which is a good one, right?

[William T. Haas]

Which is a good one. Like a lot of people that the IPA can make it too strong for some people, like if we take it equal Tessa and equal ipa, especially for women, they worry about they can. That can make them retain water a lot. And so having a little ifa, but mostly Tesla. I like that idea.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Haas]

But it's up to you.

[JD Denim]

Yeah, that's great about that. The other day somebody asked why do I recommend women to just do the Tesla? That's why he's answer it. So a little bit of input would be great. But if it's like 10, 10 or. Yeah, it's a little bit too much for women. You only need a little bit. Great way to explain that though. All right. Firefighter from el Paso, Texas. 37 years old. Been following you guys for about two months. You're literally my workout music. I love it. Got injured in a fire, had shoulder surgery and went from squatting 575s and benching three sessions 65 to starting over. Gained a lot of weight in the process. January 2026, I got back at it six days a week, protein and veggies only went from 243 to 221. That's awesome. Then hit a plateau. Pretty standard. Got on red at 2 migs Monday and Thursday. Moving to 3 migs next week. First two weeks, I gained 2 pounds but lost 2 inches of my waist. Week three, I dropped 3 pounds. Full body scan showed 4.93 pounds of visceral fat. Why did I gain weight but lose inches on Retta? Should I add tesmorelin for the visceral fat? And if so, what's the the dosing look like alongside Retta? Also, as a firefighter, my sleep is trash. Does test Morellin help or is there something better? And what's the budget look like running both? Good question, man. I think that 37. So thank you.

[William T. Haas]

Yep.

[JD Denim]

You know, like you guys, I love firemen because when everybody's running that way, you're running that way. And a huge, huge, huge respect. You want me to run it?

[William T. Haas]

You want to go ahead, go ahead.

[JD Denim]

So, yeah, so I dealt with this a lot when I was doing some training with guys where, man, we get. I think we're just so caught up in weight. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Where you'd lost inches, inches, inches. Do you look better? Do you feel better? It's working. Yeah, right. So I would, I would just for the like, just stop looking at the, the scale for a while and just stay on course. I promise you, if you're doing things right, you are going to have success. It's a promise. Unless you deviate. Here's the thing that jumped out at me on you is your sleep is trash and your age. I don't think, I think that will both are going to kind of sit on this more and more just because it is huge and we haven't talked about enough. Sleep is the absolute. It is, it is literally the most important thing. You heal. Your body heals in that sleep. And if you sleep like which, you know, I've told my story because I like to share what's going on with me. I've never battled cortisol. I've read about it for years. I just never had ever really met it, met it eye to eye until recently and it knocked me on my ass, dude. I could not lose this belly fat that I got almost overnight. It was weird. It drove me crazy. That is your body keeping that fat because it wants to live. And if your cortisol is high, you're not going to lose it. You're not going to lose it. You need to get Your cortisol down so little. Some tricks I can go over. Some sleep stuff that I. Has worked radically for me. I mean, I tried everything and you know, magnesium, glycinate, ashwagandha, like just stuff like that. Oh, my God. It's, you know, slow releasing melatonin. My sleep has been so amazing. I haven't slept like this in years. So if you hear this, you shoot me a DM anywhere and I'll actually go through that. I actually posted something the other day about what is my actual stack. And I went through like not just my supplements, but all supplements, and I added it in there. So I'd love to send it to you and try it. So get your sleep under wraps, brother. Now I'm going to tell you, Tessa Morellon is amazing. I loved it. It jacked up my sleep and Red is known to do that. I'm not deterring you from them. I'm just saying that what I would recommend if you do them is I would do them in the morning and not do them at night. Because that's. That's something that you could. That could help you with that a little bit. Because I think really, brother, your main thing is getting that sleep. Because that's bigger than even like testosterone. Even if you're on testosterone, you won't burn it. Cortisol takes the top seat even over testosterone. So I. You don't say if you're on trt, I'm assuming you are. If you're not, go get your blood work. Let's see where you're at. Let's fix that. But yeah, that's what I'm gonna say to you, brother, is you obviously can throw in some D sip. And you know, we've said it numerous times where we like to talk about peptides, but getting like hormones in line, getting sleep in line, obviously getting your diet in line, they are. They far are. They take the top seat before peptides because peptides are just going to work a little bit unless you get that stuff in line. So hope that helped, but I've been there, man. So I fixed it and it's been freaking amazing. Yeah.

[William T. Haas]

All right. Right on. I second like most of that.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Haas]

I mean, yes, everything you said I agree with. The sleep is huge. Huge, huge. The. The cortisol comes from. Yes. Us being stressed out and our body perceives stress different ways. Right. You don't have sleep or an irregular sleep schedule. Your body thinks it's in this. Your body is in this fight or flight state weight. Right. And is producing cortisol so that sucks. And there's not much you can do about it because that is your livelihood and you would help people. Good for you. But you can't just try to keep yourself, your body like limit, limit alcohol.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Haas]

Maximize sunlight, maximize exercise. All of those things will at least

[JD Denim]

stay outside, get sun.

[William T. Haas]

Yep.

[JD Denim]

Like old school stuff that like I think we all like did so much more a long time ago that we've just changed. We're inside or faces in a phone.

[William T. Haas]

Yeah.

[JD Denim]

You know what I mean? Like even me, I'm an active dude, but I've been working. I just, I was outside yesterday and with my kids and my wife outside and I was. God, I haven't been in the damn sun forever. Like it felt great, you know, Like I'm talking to myself too, man. Like we get so caught up in this little ball. But man, if we get back to old school, walking on the grass for sure. Sitting on a beach, like letting the waves. I'll tell you a quick little story because it's such a rad story. When my mom passed when I was 20, I was. I went to get my hair cut by this little Asian gal. I was obviously distraught, you know, like I was shook up, you know, and she could see that I was distraught. And she says, what's going on, sweetie? I'm getting my haircut to go basically bury my mom. Right. And she said, sweetie, you need to go down to the beach and you need to take off your shoes. You need to sit by the water and let the water just slowly come up and hit your feet. And she said your body is going to calm down and it's going to settle and it's going to calm you down because we're in the womb for nine months and our body's gonna remember that feeling. And I was like, kind of like kind of woo, woo. But I did it.

[William T. Haas]

Oh God.

[JD Denim]

I just, I've done it ever since. Like it is such an amazing like. And the point of that story is sometimes you just got to get back to the basics of the stuff that like our ancestors we don't. They didn't have peptides. They took walks on the in without their shoes on. So hope that helps.

[William T. Haas]

They took showers in the freezing cold rivers. Right? That's your like ice bath and shocking your system. They also chased animals down and like kill with their bare hands and ate lots of full probably vegetables. Right. Because that's. They could eat some plants but they ate lots of fat and protein. Yeah.

[JD Denim]

We didn't get the buffalo tonight, honey. We're eating some weeds.

[William T. Haas]

So all that stuff is good. And that's why we were healthier, robust, more robust people back then. Now we died easier from little diseases because we didn't have doctors. But okay, back to this Tesla 100 visceral fat. Get rid of that stuff, dude. I would attack that with Tessa, Marellin and Red. All right, you'd asked about dosages mice for a grown male, which you are, I would say an@ Tessa IPA. You know, choose the blend that where you get equal. Okay. Like five milligram. Five milligram. I would probably start at half of a milligram of each daily and see if you can progress to 1 milligram each daily. Okay. Tessa IPA for Retta, I start with 1 milligram 3 times a week. Usually it's 10 units. Okay. 3 times a week. See how you do. You might go down from there. I would say just do that for two weeks. See how you feel. See how you look. If you feel like you need to go up, then you bump up by half a milligram each one of those injections, it might be too strong. You might be like, damn, dude, I'm not even eating anything that's too strong. Then just lower it down to half of a milligram, man. Three times a week. Okay. And yeah, you were a big strong dude. So I hope you get back there. That sucks. Having an injury and, and thank you. But bench at 365. Squatting. 575. If they're real squats. That 575 squat is the more important, more impressive one, by the way. Just because dudes always like that lay down, push stuff, that's easy. But like squatting that much and actually putting on your back and not telling me you leg press a thousand pounds because no one cares is more important. Okay, I think my turn. Two parts perimenopausal women. What do you recommend if they're taking small amounts of hormones but need energy as well as healing body inflammation for chronic pain. Also, do you recommend anything for young growing athletes? My suggestion on this, Paramount menopausal women. Okay. We have had this question and similar questions a lot. I've noticed, you know, first hand experience. But you're looking for to reduce inflammation and chronic pain. Like BPCTB blend. I don't care. The Wolverine blend is like so proven and used. Everybody's using it. That stuff just works, works, works, works. I would maintenance, I guess I would start off like a loading phase of a milligram a day. Watch what happens. Like A milligram a day for two weeks. Then you can maybe back that down to a milligram of each. Three days a week. Make that part of your regimen. Watch the inflammation and any pain, stiffness, go away. Sermarellin is also a good secretag for women with paramenopause. So if you feel like that, because that's going to help us so many things, right? I would recommend nothing for young growing athletes.

[JD Denim]

For peptides, no age. So I don't really know, but I, I figured we'd both answer that same way. I mean it comes up quite a bit. I just will put you in. She's how I'll answer it for my sons, which they will be one day in high school sports and BPC tv, I will give to them. For sure they will have injuries. I wish I had it in high school. But other than that, nothing. Their bodies are young and they will heal.

[William T. Haas]

They will heal.

[JD Denim]

They're supposed to have energy injuries and that's part of the game when it comes to sports and whatnot. But the TB and the BBC are so freaking safe. So freaking safe. And I would do that for my sons. Other than that, nothing.

[William T. Haas]

And then for you, I guess nad, like energy, energy. Nad is awesome. Awesome. And just V12, some like B12 injections. That is good, good energy. So that's all I got.

[JD Denim]

I would say he said Wolverine. I would say the CLO because I want to, I want to add in some KBV and then the TA one is great for bringing inflammation down and it's just great. There's a amazing peptide and it'll keep you from getting sick and it's just awesome. So I would run those. You can add a little extra Wolverine on top if you need to kind of go slow and just see. But I think the CLO would go well for you. And like Will said, NAD is great, which you can move into again, the SS31 and then the mod C and then, you know, like just the standard. Let's just be redundant for a reason. Sleep resistance training. Protein. Protein. I don't think women realize that they need as much protein as they should. But I had anybody, if anybody listens to the other podcast I have with eba, she's very seasoned for women and her answer to some stuff was eat protein right when you wake up for women. And I was like, I never heard any woman say that. So I thought it was awesome. So for you two ladies, eat some protein. Make sure you get your protein in. Women just don't. And let's say Creatine, dude, creatine does not get talked about. Creatine is freaking amazing and literally everybody listening to this should be taking it. That's just universal.

[William T. Haas]

Men and women doesn't matter.

[JD Denim]

Creatine is amazing. So yeah, that should work right there, man.

[William T. Haas]

Yep. All right, you're up.

[JD Denim]

All right. New to peptides here and I have not taken any. I'm currently breastfeeding. So after I wean my baby and wanting to take something to help build muscle and lose fat looking for a low dose. I'm generally lean and muscular. What would you recommend? I am also curious about your dosing recommendations for semaglutide for longevity and inflammation. Love the podcast. I know what you're going to say. Go for it.

[William T. Haas]

My Recommendation is take 0mg of semi glutide.

[JD Denim]

Semi glutide sucks. Run aboard. It sucks.

[William T. Haas]

You know. Yes. And I would take reta instead so so and and just honestly for like a super low dose help with inflammation, longevity neuroprotection of a milligram three times a week with Retta. Now what do I take for muscle building? Sl lose fat. So those are going to be definitely two different things. There is a lot I think red is the first. Depends on what and I don't know I mean I don't want to say you have to do a bulk and a cut because you actually don't but Reddit for sure for burning fat that I would, I would absolutely get on that and and low dose it and muscle building for women and and fat burning Tessa Morel and ipamorelin Blend. The secret HD secret for men is not going to do much for truly building muscle. No. But for women it actually it will. It will damn sure make you not lose any muscle in those times that you normally would go catabolic. So yeah secretag blend and Retta nailed it.

[JD Denim]

I would just say add in what we've been talking about your style of life protein for sure add in some resistance training and again creatine ladies that'll

[William T. Haas]

help you gain a little muscle. Also by the way on our school community there are lots of researched and even like doctors suggested and Paul suggested full like protocols for different conditions like like perimenopause. So yeah if now for the most part we give you there's a few few samples we have all the like dosage protocols for single peptides free. We want to give the people information but and there are some examples of the conditions protocols but a lot of them are for the first tier membership which is 25amonth, it's like nothing. And you get full access to full explanations, protocols, etc. Etc.

[JD Denim]

It's been a lot of.

[William T. Haas]

And there's more, more and more coming into this stuff.

[JD Denim]

So hopefully that's fine with you guys because it's like, it's in a kind of a segue here. Our side note here is, you know, there's a guy that had written a comment the other day on school because one of our guys sent it to me just about, oh, is JD and Will ever on here? Like, you please understand this. Will and I are so freaking busy. Like we've been working seven days a week for like a year and a half. Like yesterday was the first Monday off I've ever had in years. And we can't. There's so many different outlets. Like we get put out so much free content that like, geez, there's so, you know, like our social media channel, school, there's so much free content on there. This podcast, there's so much free content on there. And it's like you don't get a response on the normal school. There's 9, 000 people on there that are responding. You know, they're not us exactly, but that's why we have a, A VIP because yeah, it's weird strapped. Like we did like one of the things with Will and I this morning, like, oh shoot, we got to knock that out because we, we. We missed the day. We gotta like we're behind. So please be understandable. I'm sure you do.

[William T. Haas]

Yeah.

[JD Denim]

Cool.

[William T. Haas]

Thank you.

[JD Denim]

Good stuff. Am I up?

[William T. Haas]

You know, I think I am. All right, maybe I'll read. I just recently found your podcast and I have gone back and listened to a lot of older ones while keeping up with your weekly drops and join your school community. You two are awesome. Thank you. My question is, I recently had a bone density test. 59 year old female and I have osteopenia. Osteopenia. Is there a peptide that helps with bone rejuven? Most I have found are FDA approved already and cost thousands. Doctor's advice is to up my calcium. I think an 8 year old could have told you that too. I have been on 30 units weekly of Retta, 75 units weekly of NAD plus and finished my first round of Epitalin. Good for you. Thank you in advance for your type of God's work. That's awesome. So I think that as far as peptides go a secret agog. So if you're. If your HGH levels are elevated in a Person. Your. That will absolutely help increase your bone density. It will help.

[JD Denim]

Oh, yeah.

[William T. Haas]

I mean, yours help everything. Every. Just think everything in your body is just gonna, you know, skin's gonna grow back better and firmer. Right. Your bone. And do resistance training also. So secretagogs mixed with resistance training. Think about it. You are. When your body experiences resistance. Right. And decently heavy, you're causing thousands of small, little micro fractures in those bones. And just like your muscles, they're going to grow back stronger, tighter and denser than they were before. So secretagog and lift weights for women. Yes. For people aging, Absolutely. More. More important.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Haas]

Eat enough food. Don't let reta kill your appetite. You need some fuel. You need food. Food. You need to recover.

[JD Denim]

Yeah. I was going to say optimize your hormones. I would imagine that if you haven't got your blood work done, which I would imagine with what you're going through. You did, but I would not listen to that doctor. I would go to a doctor that's more seasoned in hormones because you're going to get a very different answer. And there's a lot of people coming out now that are starting to really do the deep research and really know how to read hormones and not, you know, some. Somebody's at a 300. You know the typical song. So make sure you're hormonally optimized. Will said Secreta Gaga. I was surprised you didn't say hgh. I think for her age, probably HGH would be your best bet. Just go right to the jugular. And one IU will probably do you better with your situation. You might even go to two and you can always throw in some BPC and some tb. That'll do you good as well. That alone, like you said, eat, eat and. And do resistant training.

[William T. Haas]

There is a bpta. I know, I read about it. And I can't tell you the name right now, but it is literally just focused on. On. On specifically building bone. So if you Google that, I bet you'll find something. Now, I believe that my research on it kind of. It wasn't. It wasn't quite there. It wasn't really effective enough for me to want to try or to recommend, but new things come out every day. So maybe research that a little bit and. And we will too, a little bit more. Do that.

[JD Denim]

All right. Man, am I taking this home?

[William T. Haas]

You take it over.

[JD Denim]

I'm taking this home. All right. I will try to keep this brief. My daughter is 30 and insulin resistant and has been micro dosing tirzepatide with NAD and B12 it took a couple of months but she started to lose weight. But most importantly her body composition has changed a lot. Even though she's not losing more, her belly fat has gone down. We've been doing heavy weights and walking for a year and a half. The Tirzepatide is the only thing that got the scale and body to move. Here's my question. A couple months after the weight started to slowly come off and her body was changing she had three episodes of feeling terrible. She tested her blood sugar and she was a 70 and 75. We know there that's not low but to her it felt horrible. Her dad is type 2. She is not yet to me she's been running high enough that 70 and 75 felt low enough though it wasn't. Would you agree that this means that her body is becoming more insulin sensitive? I think it's a good thing that she is freaking out. She thinks that the 1.25 mgs of GLP1 GIP could be making her hypoglycemic thoughts. Also she's had NAD and B12 added to the tirzepatide. She also or she feels it has made her anxiety a lot worse. Thoughts. I think it's her glucose and insulin levels leveling out. Yep. And her body is freaking out and it's actually a good thing. We can change the add ons to L Carnitine. For your information, she has medical anxiety. Thank you. I appreciate it. Sincerely. Peptide 11 Mom. Good one. Good stuff. I liked it. That was great. Yeah. I think it could improve the be improve the insulin sensitivity. When the glucose normalizes it's going to feel uncomfortable. So I think that she's this where she's at. She, you know like when the body changes, it's changing. You weren't feeling like you just were. So for a lot of people that's going to do I think for your daughter. I think protein electrolytes make sure the food quality is good, make sure she's eating enough. If she stops eating because of the tirpatite it's going to counteract the tirpatite because it has absolutely slowed down her metabolism and she stops plateaus might even go backwards. So make sure she eats enough. It's very, very important. And high protein Also because of her anxiety I would imagine she says her age 30, she's good. So C LOC Max those should be a a given. You could even maybe take out the tirzepatide for a little bit and try the test offensive seen.

[William T. Haas]

Might work. Yeah, might work, might give anxiety. But it doesn't. Doesn't.

[JD Denim]

I think. I think I'm from the old school. If you haven't figured it out by now. I think for your daughter, what will do really well for her? I don't know if you're into church. I don't know if she. Whatever your lifestyle is. But if she just starts like serving and going to feed some homeless people or just do some things that are really out of self and helping other people, she will stop thinking about how she feels and she will feel amazing. And it will light a matter in her soul and some of her problems will slowly fall away because we are so in tune to ourselves if we're sit there and just thinking about herself. I do it with a lot of my sponsors, like, dude, get out and help people. You can think about you if you're thinking about somebody else. It works wonders. It really like lights people's soul on fire. I believe our purpose in life is to help other people. Try it. Watch. See if I'm wrong.

[William T. Haas]

Let's try that.

[JD Denim]

Right?

[William T. Haas]

Yes. I mean really, I really do agree. When somebody comes, comes to you with their problems, you tell them you're being selfish and start being grateful. That's not at all the answer I needed, but it actually probably is the answer you needed anyway. Your daughter. It seems so. Mom, I think you're spot on. I think you're absolutely right that those changes are making her feel like her blood sugar is crashing and not as comfortable because she's not loaded up on sugar. And just tell her keep toughing it out. I think you. So I think, mom, you're on the right track. Right? That is, I think that. I think that that's what's going on. I would, I would. If it were me and my daughter, I guess I'd move them to retta instead of just appetite.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Haas]

It's not gonna make her go hypoglycemic. What might make her go. But not even really even. Okay. If she's not eating enough food. Okay. That makes a person's blood sugar tank. Right. That's. Where else are you gonna eat?

[JD Denim]

That's what I'd say it is.

[William T. Haas]

Sugar. That's probably what's going on. So yeah, I think that she needs to make sure that she's eating consistently. And that's yet another reason to switch that to reta because you actually have an appetite. Food sounds good to you, just not a lot of it. And not the bad food. It's like what's better, right. Forces you to have perfect portion control and you get your nutrients so you don't, don't a go into, you know, lower all your blood sugar and you don't lose a bunch of muscle. Etc. The NAD potentially could be making the anxiety not good. You know what makes anxiety not good is being really hungry too. You know, when we're low on food, that just boosts energy and anxiety, bad energy. Right. It's like, yeah, so make sure that she's eating. The NAD has some stimulant effects. It can make certain people, people feel anxious. So be aware of that. But it's, it just, it sounds like she's been battling this her whole life and it's genetic, right? You said not yet. Her dad is type two. She is not yet, therefore she is type three. I read that as that's what has to be happening, right? How else could she test her blood sugar very fast, right, you guys. So this seems like a plant. This seems like a, a problem that has been, you know, gaining on her her whole life. So keep working at it. It's not going to get solved immediately, but there is going to be some discomfort until her body normalizes and gets back to it. But you are kicking ass, mom. Good for you. And do everything JD said and good luck and you just. And she just keeps trying to keep going. Right. Consistency is the key. She didn't gain all the weight. Right. In six weeks, even six months. Right. She probably took her years to gain weight and to, to develop that. That used to being high insulin. So it's going to take some time. Keep working.

[JD Denim]

Good stuff. Great questions. Very different from the ones that have come through. Some, some for a while they were kind of redundant. Not knocking it because I know we got new viewers all the time. So it's great. But those are some good ones, man. So again, if a little bit more info, info for some of you, help us answer them a little bit more and depth. Join the school if you haven't. We have a $25 month that has some extras where you can find some different protocols that you know. And then the VIP, which is what, 60 bucks a month. We got a lot coming down. I know for some of you haven't seen a lot of stuff, but you do get a big discount. You got all kinds of different protocols on there. So.

[William T. Haas]

Well that those actually come with the, with the 25. So that's zero luck.

[JD Denim]

Then the, then we're gonna be dropping all kinds of like videos that are just. We've Already done some that we need to film some more. But we did even some gear because we can. And there's a lot of questions on it. So we did a bulking stack, a cutter stack and that's not for you. Cool for a lot of people they were interested, but there'll be a lot of that stuff and just join the community because is. It's a rad community. There is so much camaraderie. There was so much just people lifting each other up and being positive. That was the reason why we did it. So we love seeing that stuff. So other than that, we're going to interview Peter tomorrow and it drops on Monday and you're gonna love that. So if you want to throw some questions, you know, we'll read through them. If you we. You got about a day. If you have some questions, uh, shoot them in any one of our DMs. They're all checking, checked and we will see if.

[William T. Haas]

For the owner of Jano, which is like a independent lab that started in the Czech Republic and they test people have been sending different samples of everything. Started with steroids years ago and now it's in now still steroids and peptides etc. So yeah, please give questions. We'll. We'll try to ask him there too.

[JD Denim]

We'll ask one live on the thing and we'll say this is from. I know not your name. We wouldn't do that to you, but we will say this is from the audience. That'd be cool.

[William T. Haas]

The last thing I want to say that I forgot this. The firefighter from El Paso, right? You've lost. You haven't lost weight or you've in fact gained weight, but inches have come off of your waist. I mean that's literally the goal. I mean that's what the point. That is the best news possible, right? That is the goal.

[JD Denim]

How do you feel how you look?

[William T. Haas]

You know, how do you feel and how you look? Muscle weighs way more than fat and so you. Absolutely. That's what we call body recomposition. Right. I don't care what the scale says, right. It's my weight stay the exact same. Right. But a person's body can look way different.

[JD Denim]

Different. Yeah.

[William T. Haas]

I have like before after pictures of, of. Of a woman who's like 10 pounds heavier and everybody would say no way, she's 20 pounds lighter. But because she has turned, got rid of all the fat out a whole bunch of muscle. Muscle goes into the right places. Fat's always in the wrong places. It makes you look bad. So dude. Yeah. That's. That's the goal. Good job.

[JD Denim]

We appreciate you guys. We love you. And so we will see you next time. Next time. Yep, that's it.

[William T. Haas]

Good night, America.