Peptide Q&A #44 – Cloudy Peptides, Histamine Reactions, Sleep Stack & Stacking Mistakes

Summary

Peptide of the Week Podcast

Episode: Peptide Q&A #44 – Cloudy Peptides, Histamine Reactions, Sleep Stack & Stacking Mistakes

Hosts: JD Denham and Will Haas
Date: June 4, 2026

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Overview

In this Q&A-centric episode, JD and Will field listener questions about practical peptide usage, troubleshooting common side effects, optimizing stacks, and foundational health strategies. Drawing on their no-BS, real-world experience, they tackle topics like histamine reactions, sleep solutions, water choice for peptide reconstitution, stacking do’s and don’ts, female hormone considerations, cognitive peptides, and protocols for special health situations—providing actionable advice for athletes, high performers, and anyone interested in body optimization.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Reflections on Previous Guest (Peter Magic)

• JD and Will open by recapping their recent interview with supplement testing pioneer Peter Magic, praising his logic-driven approach to transparency in the industry.
  • “Peter Magic… basically revolutionized… nobody was testing for any performance enhancing supplements ever. The product that was being sold was just garbage… he started allowing individuals to test…”
    — Will (02:31)
  • JD emphasizes the importance of sharing the “box opener” stories, humanizing the process behind stringent supplement testing.

2. Event Announcement: Warrior Maker Meet-Up Update

• Scheduling conflict: Warrior Maker in-person event postponed to end of summer to ensure quality and proper planning.
  • “We’re not going to do anything half-ass… we want it to become a special day.”
    — JD (06:02)

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Q&A Deep Dive

1. Histamine Reactions to Peptides

Timestamp: 06:33 – 12:16
Topic: Nighttime itchiness and pins-and-needles with Tessamorelin and Ipamorelin

• Key Insights:
  • These symptoms are common “histamine reactions,” not true allergies.
  • Often occur after some time on a peptide regimen.
  • Reactions may lessen as the body adapts.
  • Experiment: Isolate compounds to determine the culprit (pull one at a time).
  • Tips to minimize:
    • Inject very slowly, especially if you’re lean (“super duper duper duper slow injection”).
    • CJC-1295 and Sermorelin are alternate stack options if Tesamorelin is problematic.
  • JD Shares: Everyone’s body is different; his wife had a dramatic lip reaction to CJC. Only a throat closure or anaphylaxis warrants ER visit (12:09).
  • KPV or antihistamines can help, but for most, symptoms fade.

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2. Cloudy Peptides & Reconstitution Water

Timestamp: 12:16 – 17:57
Question: Why are some mixed peptides cloudy? Is that OK?

• Core Guidance:
  • Peptides should NOT be cloudy if mixed correctly. Cloudiness could indicate degraded product or wrong solvent.
  • Room temp bacteriostatic water = best practice for most peptides.
  • Acetic acid water is needed for a few (AOD-9604, HGH Frag 176-191, SLOOP/PB332).
  • Too-cold water or adding water too quickly can lead to precipitation/clouding (16:38).
  • “Majority of everything should be mixed with bacteriostatic water. But add room temp bacteriostatic water… temperature shock can make tessamorelin cloud up…”
    — Will (17:04)
  • Resources: The “Classroom” part of their school platform offers a comprehensive peptide reconstitution guide.

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3. Modafinil Quick Overview

Timestamp: 14:59 – 22:10

• Will’s Take:
  • “It’s a prescription for the most part, but it’s amazing. Razor Focus.”
    — Will (14:59)
  • Shouldn’t be taken at night; not a heart stimulant but a brain stimulant.
  • Not habit-forming; no euphoria, so low addiction risk.
  • Best on an empty stomach, half-dose often enough.
  • Listen to previous episodes for deep dive & downloadable slideshows.

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4. Morning Thyroid, Peptides, and Fasting

Timestamp: 24:33 – 27:00
Question: Best timing for thyroid meds versus AOD, ipamorelin, tesamorelin (all typically recommended in fasted state)?

• Advice:
  • Take thyroid meds and peptides together in the morning; just avoid caffeine or L-carnitine within 2 hours of T3.
  • Fasting is more critical for GH secretagogues (AOD, ipamorelin, tesamorelin), to maximize effectiveness.
  • “You’re thinking a little too much, man. Just simplify it.”
    — JD (27:00)

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5. Tessamorelin and IGF-1 Considerations for Women with Hormonal Imbalance

Timestamp: 27:06 – 30:31

• General Rule: “Hormones come first before everything.” Don’t start peptides before thorough labs and stable hormones.
• Be cautious using IGF-1-related compounds when fibroids or endometriosis are present; best to consult knowledgeable physicians.
• Upcoming “women’s hormone” expert episode will address these issues more deeply.

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6. Sleep Peptides and Stacks for Severe Insomnia

Timestamp: 31:11 – 37:52
Question: Most effective peptides or stacks to address insomnia (especially for postmenopausal women, anxiety, circadian disruption)?

• Core Recommendations:
  • Epitalon: “Reboots” circadian rhythm; best dosed as 10mg/day for 10 days, twice yearly.
  • DSIP: Delta sleep-inducing peptide relaxes neurotransmitters, improves ability to transition into REM sleep.
  • Sermorelin is gentler than Tesamorelin for sleep, often suggested for menopausal women.
  • Other advice: Address cortisol and lifestyle. JD shares his personal, effective sleep supplement stack:
    • Magnesium, Glycine, Ashwagandha (KSM66), Valerian root, and slow-release melatonin.
    • “You do not know how much you need sleep until you don’t have it…”
      — JD (36:13)
  • Celank: Also helpful; check out the platform’s “Sleep Optimization” protocol.

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7. Peptides & Dementia/Alzheimer’s Prevention

Timestamp: 37:55 – 40:09

• Best-researched options: Dihexa, Pinealon, Cerebrolysin.
  • All help neural regeneration – though no guarantees on prevention, research is ongoing.
  • Strong emphasis on lifestyle: “Build the base”: sleep, diet, and resistance training trump everything else.

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8. Peptides & Pregnancy/Breastfeeding

Timestamp: 40:09 – 41:58

• JD/Will’s Official Position:
  • Stop all peptides (especially GHK-Cu-based like GLOW) when pregnant or breastfeeding—“Why screw with it? It’s your baby.”
  • “Your body knows what it’s doing. Let it do its thing.”
    — Will (41:58)

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9. SLOOP Cycling, Fat Loss, & Growth Hormone for Women

Timestamp: 42:04 – 48:38

• Cycle Duration: SLOOP generally 3 months on, ~1 month off. Conservative approach: 8-12 weeks on, 4-6 weeks off.
• Bridge off-periods with similar peptides or exercise mimetics (e.g., BAM15, MOTSc, SS31).
• Secretagogues preferable for women under ~40, GH considered closer to 45-50+.
• MK677 discouraged for most women due to bulking, hunger and potential edema.

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10. Peptides and Cancer Remission (Weight Loss, NAD/MOTSc, etc.)

Timestamp: 48:44 – 52:11

• Official Guidance:
  • For strong cancer histories, avoid GH secretagogues.
  • NAD+, MOTSc, AOD, PT-141 are considered fine.
  • Latest BPC research: “very selective,” only creates new blood vessels for genuine injury repair, not tumor tissue.
  • “Let’s talk about the real culprits, which are sugars, seed oils… not BPC.”
    — JD (52:04)

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11. Peptide Stacks: What NOT to Combine

Timestamp: 52:11 – 56:12

• Stacking Tips:
  • Don’t stack multiple GHRH or GHRP together (e.g., Tesamorelin, CJC, Sermorelin, Ipamorelin, MK677)—redundant or competitive.
  • Don’t combine exogenous HGH with those secretagogues (except Tesamorelin might still help target visceral fat).
  • Avoid combining KPV, GHK-Cu, CLO, and GLOW in excessive amounts.
  • Kisspeptin for fertility is ineffective on TRT.
  • “Danger? Not really. But waste of money? Absolutely.”
    — Will (53:44)
  • For semaglutide, tirzepatide, and retatrutide: generally choose one; special cases may warrant overlaps for transitions or significant weight loss.

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12. Autoimmune Protocols (Ulcerative Colitis, BPC, KPV, TA1)

Timestamp: 56:14 – 57:30

• BPC-157, TB-500, and KPV are safe; Thymosin Alpha-1 should be avoided during active flares as it can enhance an autoimmune response.

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13. Peptides & Elderly with Heart Issues (Dad with Pacemaker)

Timestamp: 57:30 – 61:10

• Guidance:
  • Use caution: Avoid anything that raises heart rate (no stimulants, CMAX).
  • MOTSc, NAD, SS31, Dihexa considered safe and supportive.
  • Start low, go slow with TRT if indicated.
  • Movement and resistance training matter more than any supplement.
    • “Get him moving. Get his diet right. Single ingredient foods. Resistance training. That's gonna be the best thing.”
      — JD (60:54)
  • “Don’t worry about something that might kill him 20 years from now… just give him a shot at feeling better.”
    — Will (61:10)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “You do not know how much you need sleep until you don’t have it… stress and cortisol will literally drive you to the grave.”
  — JD (36:13)
• “Let the baby just be the baby and then peptides will be here when you… whenever you stop breastfeeding or whatever you decide to do.”
  — JD (41:45)
• “Let’s talk about the real culprits, which are sugars, seed oils… not BPC.”
  — JD (52:04)
• “Danger? Not really. But waste of money? Absolutely.”
  — Will (53:44)
• “Basics, man. Single ingredient foods, basics, TRT… and then build the house. And then the peptides will work…”
  — JD (61:33)

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Additional Resources & Platforms

• All peptide protocols, deep-dive guides, dosage charts (including sleep/cognitive stacks), and past podcasts are available through the hosts’ “School” platform (classroom/community structure, free and paid tiers).
• Protocols for anti-aging, cognitive optimization, immune support, men’s TRT, fertility, muscle optimization, etc. updated weekly.

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Flow & Tone

JD and Will maintain a conversational, experience-based tone—mixing professional advice with anecdotal stories, transparency about what’s known/unknown, and a bias for foundational health over “magic bullet” supplementation. They encourage experimentation within safe limits, prioritizing hormonal balance, quality sleep, diet, and resistance training, and urge listeners to consult specialists for complex cases (e.g., cancer history, female hormone dysfunction).

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Conclusion

This episode offers a comprehensive, real-world guide to troubleshooting peptide protocols, optimizing health foundations, and avoiding common mistakes. The vibe is pragmatic: master the basics, don’t overthink, and leverage professional advice and platform resources to dial in the details.

Transcript

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[JD Denim]

Welcome back to the Peptide of the Week podcast. I am your host, JD Denim. Across the way, Mr. William T. Ha. What's up dude?

[William T. Ha]

Present. Hello.

[JD Denim]

What a good podcast, this last one. Yeah, dude, that was awesome that we had made a lot of waves out in the social media world. I was telling Will as we were sitting down here, we had more, I think shares on some of the posts that I had done than it even likes. That's a good thing. It means that people are just sending them to their friends and going out. But Peter Magic, what a cool dude. Smart man.

[William T. Ha]

A lot of times smart dude like. And he was born with the name Peter Magic.

[JD Denim]

I know. Like, you're stoked, man.

[William T. Ha]

Peter Magic in the Czech Republic, which is like, that's not a very Czech name but. And it's Magic. So I don't know. So. But he was awesome. He was smart down to earth. Had a great story, like one amazing story of starting this company when he's like 16 in his dorm room. Here's one question though. I did. He mentioned something about. He told a story about somebody he's like in medical school and I feel like it was put him in medical school.

[JD Denim]

Yeah, I think he was in medical to 16.

[William T. Ha]

Okay, good.

[JD Denim]

That was telling me that.

[William T. Ha]

I'm glad that you.

[JD Denim]

I was like, he's. That he seemed like he's that smart. Yeah, I mean dude, like he's like leading. His company's leading the way. Yeah.

[William T. Ha]

Yeah.

[JD Denim]

So that's.

[William T. Ha]

That makes a lot of sense. He also, I mean he basically like revolutionalized if you think about it. Like nobody was testing for any like performance enhancing supplements ever. Right. So the product that was being sold was just garbage because everybody knew they could just make garbage and sell it. Nobody had a way to test them. Haha. Like the only testing was for big. It was B2B. Right. It was for like big pharmaceutical brands when they make a huge batch. There was companies that would test those, but nobody in no individual person. And so he is the first person who actually started allowing individuals to test and that has single handedly, obviously will grown into, grown into where we are today. But also single handedly just made everybody up the game of all of the supplements that they make because now there's the fear that they might be tested and checked, which they should be. And yeah, who knows? Probably saved a lot of lives and saved a lot of gyno from people.

[JD Denim]

And having the foresight though of that, I mean whether he like knew he. I'm sure he didn't know where he was.

[William T. Ha]

He actually did. Like oh, he didn't.

[JD Denim]

I could retire in a couple years, but I don't. What am I gonna do?

[William T. Ha]

Yeah. And I love this. You know me like, I'm not, I'm not conspiracy theorists. I know that you kind of are. And he is, he is not. Like he was every, every answer that we asked him, it was just pure logic. Like well, this is this. And you know, follow the money also, you know. So I appreciated those answers. I thought that was awesome.

[JD Denim]

Good stuff.

[William T. Ha]

He's. He, yeah. So he was cool, he was smart. He's down to earth. He's. And they're growing and I, I thought interesting too. And he said the biggest headache that we have, the biggest problem is. Or is opening boxes. You try and think about it, it'd be like thousand. Open a thousand boxes a day. That's a lot of work, folks. If anybody's ever working, has to work the open boxes.

[JD Denim]

Like 40 employees alone. Even usually if everybody did, some boxes would still suck. You know, I mean mathematically one guy gets that job. You are a box opener.

[William T. Ha]

Open a box open full time just to use your knife and cut boxes open. Good for him.

[JD Denim]

Yeah, that's cool, man. Yeah.

[William T. Ha]

And keeping all that stuff organized as B also knows because we have been doing some crazy organization. It's hard, it is really hard to keep numbers and organize organization of you know, for us 80 different items times three with all unique numbers and Holy. And he's got a thousand a day, dude. Yeah.

[JD Denim]

You ain't making if you're not organized.

[William T. Ha]

No, you're not rude. So that's cool. Yeah, that's that was awesome. Everybody should watch that.

[JD Denim]

Yeah. Super fun, man. So that's cool. We want to maybe try to get some of the other testing facilities up here, too, just to maybe get a perspective from a different angle.

[William T. Ha]

Absolutely.

[JD Denim]

Kind of cool. But for the people that we have told about the Warrior Maker get together, we wanted to announce it on all platforms because we're not going to pull it off. We are. Will and I are going to be traveling a little bit over the next couple months, and it's summer, and so will you. And it's. That's just kind of low on the totem pole. We got a lot going on, so we will have it probably the end of summer. So if you were counting on that, which a lot of people seem to. We will have it. We're just going to extend it till the end of summer when everybody's passed all the vacations and all that stuff.

[William T. Ha]

And we want time to plan. Like, believe me, really wants to do this, and I do, too, actually. I think it's a.

[JD Denim]

It'll be.

[William T. Ha]

It'll be. Shake some hands, think. But, like, we need to do it right.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Ha]

And not rush it together. And so. Yeah. And we will.

[JD Denim]

That's Will for sure. Where It's. It's great. We've talked about it a million times. We're a good balance. When we were in Vegas, we just. That's one thing that we shook hands on, so to speak, and said, any Warrior Maker product, any Warrior Maker, anything is top of the line. It's gonna be stamped of approval. And, like, if we're. It's. We're not going to do anything half ass, I guess is the best way to say it. That would have been half ass. And we want it to become kind of a special day. Anyways, 27's off, but it will be at the end of the summer, we promise.

[William T. Ha]

Yep.

[JD Denim]

Other than that, it's a Q and A, which is everybody's favorite. Let's jump right in, my brother.

[William T. Ha]

All right, we'll read first. So question one. Hey, guys. I'm a male, 32 years old. I've been on Tessa for a few months now. Been doing two MIGs a night with 250 micrograms of Ipamorelin. Also 250 micrograms of Ipamarorelin. In the morning. Never had an issue once in the past two nights. Night after injecting, my hands and feet became itchy and very uncomfortable, almost like pins and needles. The night prior, I took a half of a Benadryl, and it stopped. Tonight, it stopped after 10 minutes on its own without a Benadryl. I stopped taking it due to fear I'm becoming allergic to it. Have you guys heard anything like this before? And if so, what should I use to replace the Tessamorelin in my stack? Also currently on Retta, 2.5 milligrams twice a week. Yeah, all right, I will. I will give my best answer here. So first thing. Yes, absolutely. You've heard about this. You are. This is common. It's not an absolute, like, allergic reaction. It's a histamine reaction. Okay, so it is a reaction, but it's not like an allergic reaction to where. Where you are inherently born allergic to that. Yeah, like that. That is not what's going on. What's happening is your body is sensing something that is foreign, and it goes. And this is what our body does, right? If something comes into our body and our body's like, whoa, that isn't me on, like, a molecular level. It says, let's get it out of me. And how it gets out is by producing histamines to, well, push it out or neutralize whatever that is. So that's what you're experiencing. And it does usually happen after a little while of using it. Some people, absolutely. It happens the first time they ever use it. But more often than not, it's after, you know, a couple weeks you've been doing it consistently, and then you start to get that reaction compounding. The good news is that it is. It actually has started to gone away. And so, like, there are things. Your body can adapt to these things and go, all right, okay, I can deal with this. It's normal. So the fact that you did it the second. The second time that it happened, you didn't take a Benadryl and it stopped earlier, is a good sign your body might be leveling out on it. What I would do, though, is first of all, let's make sure. Let's isolate and see what it is. Is it the Tesla or is it the ipamorelin? And maybe you can ask yourself those questions about either at what time you notice this reaction happening. But then again, also, you could. Why don't you just do experiments on yourself if you want to, right? Just. Just pull the EPIC completely. Just do Tesla, see if we have any issues. Right, man. Vice versa. One thing I do know that is if people who are leaner. So if you are injecting into this sub Q layer and you don't have a lot of fat or you have no fat, right? These peptides are going to Hit you a lot faster and it will have a higher chance of eliciting that reaction. Also the faster that you actually push that plunger down right the, the more chance you're going to get eliciting the reaction. Those injector pens that they make literally are meant for people to like put them in there, hold it and hold it for like 90 seconds like some crazy amount of time. So it super slowly goes in and, and minimizes any type of reaction. So one thing to try is like do a super duper duper duper slow injection. If you're really lean and there's no fat and you're just putting it into that true sub Q layer, then do it even I guess inject even slower. I'm not going to tell you. Don't go add a bunch of fat. That's all I got. Now what you said was well the only things I would potentially replace it with is CJC 1295. Although that one seems to be worse. Be worse but everybody's body is different. Who knows, you might not get it with that. And then Sir Marellin is the other one to potentially replace it with. Okay. Because those three are all the, those are the only three reasonably good GHRH is that anybody should, should be taking. So tessa storm around CJC 1295 all do the same thing. They're all GHR. Hs versus GHRP is growth hormone releasing hormone versus growth hormone releasing peptide. Ipamorelin is a GHRP. That's what I got.

[JD Denim]

Yeah. Happens to all of us. I think at one point. It's, it's the more we do this, the more people we talk to and all that. It's crazy is everybody's has their peptide or sometimes peptides that that happens to will. Stuff going on with nad. I got nothing with nad. I don't feel anything with it at all. I've never had a problem. It doesn't even sting a lot of people like that. It's at the ghkcu. I think the only thing that you're going to be really worried about I think this is diet. It'll die out. Like I said, your body's going to get used to it but if you did it a few days longer and it continued then you can kind of pull it and it is what it is. CJC has that with a lot of people. I've told this story but it was. We were out with some dinner with some friends recently. We talked about this because it happened with them at cjc. As well, where they had a histamine response. And I have had it where I just got like, kind of like right when I injected like hives down my leg. I mean, it was instant. It was like, whoa, that was fast. With my. My wife, it got so bad where her lips plumped up to like this big and I was like, holy shit. I literally almost took it to the ER and I was tripping out because I'd never seen anything like that. And, you know, I got on and researched some stuff really quickly. And if any of that happens to anybody, listening is the thing that you need to be fearful of. You feel your throat start to close out.

[William T. Ha]

Yeah.

[JD Denim]

That means go that fixed. Obviously have an antihistamine. KPV helps, but.

[William T. Ha]

But not.

[JD Denim]

The point is sometimes this is just going to happen and there's nothing you can do about it. Your body just sometimes is going to fight it. And I think it's just different for everybody. So I don't think it's necessarily a testament, I would say if your objective truly is to. To ride the test moralen out, I bet you it gets better. But if it doesn't, you, you'll know in a few days. So keep doing that. And yeah, so much that man, he's busy. All right, let's see here a couple of topics suggestions I love to see covered. The first is cloudy peptides, which has been a recurring issue for me. Even when using a Hespora bacteriostatic water at room temperature and following proper reconstitution protocols, I'm still ending up with cloudy or hazy solutions. I'd love some clarity on whether I said acetate acid is required for certain peptides and whether a slightly hazy solution is acceptable for some, while others need to be completely clear. I haven't been able to find a definitive answer on this. The second topic is Modafinil, a general overview of the compound it uses and any important considerations would be greatly appreciated. So, yes, I'll take it. So Modafino, we just did that. I would. I don't know if you wrote this beforehand, but we just did a podcast on Modafinil and it was great. I think that it's a. It's a great compound. It's a prescription for the most part, but it's amazing. I. I use it before. I took one before the podcast. It Razor Focus, man. I take one almost for every podcast, but that's it. If you take it too much, it doesn't work as good. And I like it to work as good. So I use it sparingly, if you will. But it's great. I love it. So I think it's amazing. But if you haven't listened that podcast, go back and listen. I think it's like three back and when it comes to like cloudy water that happens. I, I personally still use it. I just don't. I've done it so many times. I mix a lot of different peptides and a lot of people will disagree with that. I don't. I've done it numerous times and it's not a problem for me. But yes, you need to have a, to know what water goes with which, which will is about to drop that right now. So we have that kind of going on and we have, for those that don't know, we have a, a platform on school and the amount of information that we've put up there has just been insane. This guy just, has just dropped just knowledge on top of knowledge. And you know, most people don't, don't look for it. So they want the protocols and then they don't keep searching. But if you go on there, which will's about to drop you and you just go to classroom.

[William T. Ha]

Yep.

[JD Denim]

All that is knowledge.

[William T. Ha]

Go ahead. Well, yes, so to answer your question this, I figured after reading this question in the beginning I would show you where you can find this information because we get these questions a lot. So school, this does confuse people. School is a platform where different companies can kind of can create their an informational almost like social media account, then other people can join it, etc. So schools, school is a platform. We do not own the domain there, but we have a peptide of the week community. We'll post the exact URL so you all can visit it. Okay. It is free for the most part. We do have some paid tiers. But first question, what bacteriostatic water do we want to mix? Acetic acid. What do we know? So this is what our school looks like. Okay, first of all, community, this is the social media posting portion. But if you go to classroom. Okay. These are inside the paid tiers, but general knowledge. Okay. And we have right here a peptide reconstitution guide. I have a different version for you that's bigger. That's also on there that everybody can see on here. So the quick answer. So the answer to your question here. So this is on there but acetic acid with. So first of all, the cloudy peptides, I don't think that any peptides should be cloudy. Have you ever experienced any a peptide that like in your regular Basis you didn't do anything.

[JD Denim]

So for example, like AOD should be mixed with a different water. And sometimes I. Often before we started doing that, I used back water, right.

[William T. Ha]

But then it was. Then it was a bit cloudy. But it was correctly. If you do so. So buddy, whoever is asking this question, right, if you mix it correctly with the right water, with the right water and there shouldn't be anything cloudy. If there is cloudy, maybe it's full of endotoxins, maybe that's been degraded, etc. But you shouldn't. There aren't any peptides that I know of. They're like, oh yeah, that's cloudy and that's normal.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Ha]

If you're at. Okay, so everything should be. Just do this. Majority of everything should be mixed with bacteriostatic water. And But I would add room temp bacteriostatic water. A lot of this temperature shock can make like tessamorelin cloud up and get in gel up. Okay, so just safely keep peptides in the refrigerator but add room temp water in there and add it slowly in there. We have also noticed and know that if you're just blasting water in there, that can cause some issues in it. So everything bacteriostatic water, the things that we need to. That need to be mixed with acidic acid water, not just pure acetic acid, but acetic acid bacteriostatic water are AOD 9604 HGH Frag 176 to 191 and sloop. So you be. Yeah.

[JD Denim]

PB 332.

[William T. Ha]

Thank you. 332. So those three you should mix with acetic acid water. This guide tells you that and it tells you a little bit about everything. There's sterile water. First of all, there is a difference. Sterile water and bacteriostatic water. Sterile water is used is only. There is no benzoyl alcohol. So it should be used one time. Use only something where you like mix water and you do the entire thing. Now bacterial static water has benzoyl alcohol added into it. This works for 99.9% of all peptides except for Sloop, AOD, HGH Frag. All right, so there's your definitive answer. Yeah. AOD water, acetic acid plus benzoyl alcohol, glycerol. It's the one that I like because it makes. It takes a little sting from the acetic acid away. All right, I already told you that. And then there's also such thing as no sting water, right? Which is NaCl glycerol and benzoyl alcohol. And that really takes the sting away from peptides that sting you like GHKCU and nad. For me, no glow cloak has got ghkcu. Yeah, in there. So there is this folks, like everybody can. These resources are available to you by going to classroom and then first one was general knowledge. We also if you'd go down here to peptide protocols. This is what each protocol like this is for CJC 10mg 1520. So for the five, the CJC IPA five plus five ten plus five ten plus ten. And then look at all the other ones that are available and we're constantly adding these. All right, the next question. Wasn't there a two part question here? Oh, Modafino. How about this also guys, check it out. If we go to our home screen, we also have all of the podcasts of our Q&As, all Q&As, all of our peptide of the week and all of the slide other presentations that we actually give during those podcasts. And in fact we did one on my. So yeah, if you go here, this will show you the whole slideshow that we did on Modafinil and we'll give you every little bit of answer that you want. Yeah, there's that. Now the quick answer. Dude, Modafinil is a prescription drug. It's not a heart stimulant, but it's a brain stimulant and therefore I would not take it at night. But it's actually not going to do anything wrong to your heart. It's not like caffeine, where caffeine is stimulating your heart, your heart beating faster. I would drink a lot of water with it. But it is a prescription drug that works on your neurotransmitters, that promotes wakefulness. I think the actual prescription is prescribed for shift work disorder, which basically just means if you work a double shift for three days in a row, I guess you're tired and so you should take this and not be so tired, I guess. But take it and it gives you helps with raise your focus. No anxiety. It's non habit forming. And I know this for a fact because I've taken it plenty of times. I have lots of friends who've taken it and we all get get addicted to everything, right? Seriously, because it does not provide any euphoria. Okay. And that's you. That's what people get addicted to. So I could take this for five days in a row and then tomorrow just not even think about it.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Ha]

And no problem. So. But it is a prescription only. Or if unless you can find it

[JD Denim]

somewhere, it is literally like the focus you get is definitely awesome. We give it to a couple people that have been on the podcast. We're like, whoa. Like you are just razor focused. So if you have like a big class coming up or something to study on, man, you're just raise your focus.

[William T. Ha]

I generally take a half a pill. Like 100 milligrams. Not in the morning on an empty stomach with coffee. That seems to be like, if I take a full pill, then it's a little too much, but. And I can sleep no matter what. So I wouldn't suggest this but like I'll take it at the end of the day and be just. And that will help me.

[JD Denim]

Wow.

[William T. Ha]

Wake up to the end of the day and I don't care. I'll. I'll fall asleep.

[JD Denim]

Half a pill. Yeah.

[William T. Ha]

And no matter. Even a full pill. Oh, wow. Doesn't matter.

[JD Denim]

But I don't think it would.

[William T. Ha]

I would take a full pill if I'm like fed and it's midday and I'm actually tired.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Ha]

But empty stomach first thing in the morning. Full pill is too much for me.

[JD Denim]

Nice.

[William T. Ha]

Anyway, there you go. Hopefully that answers that.

[JD Denim]

Check it out, man. There's so much. There's so much information. People aren't even looking at it. It's just loaded with right stuff to check out.

[William T. Ha]

What blood test for males if you're looking at your trt. Right. How to read an actual syringe. Good basic stuff. Right. That are like valid questions, clearly. Protocols, blood analysis. And then yes, all of our podcasts and we do have our like the prem but play stack. So this is 25amonth. And look at. And we have pre made stacks. Anti aging cognitive optimization, Elite performance immunity, Anti inflammation Long Covid, Men's fertility, Men's trt, Muscle optimization. And we're adding one, we're adding two a week, by the way. So this will continue to grow and

[JD Denim]

grow and grow Men's fertility. We get asked that daily. Pretty much. What's protocol? You can find it.

[William T. Ha]

And I am doing this right now. HMG is a little expensive, folks. You gotta do 75. I use a week. So anyway. All right, we'll carry on.

[JD Denim]

Is it a week? I thought it was a day.

[William T. Ha]

Well, you can do. I'm doing it once a week, splitting it into three. Three times a week.

[JD Denim]

But yeah. What do you run on HCG? A thousand?

[William T. Ha]

I'm doing 1500. Friday, Monday, Wednesday. No, 25 migs. Of enclomophene daily. Dude. I mean, here's the thing. Like, with all of these, I know somebody who didn't know, and he took the HCG, did the entire. Did a 5000 IU bottle of just in one injection and got his wife pregnant like a month later. So it's like, as long as you just get the stuff in you.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Ha]

And you can't OD on hcg. Right. It might just make your testosterone, I don't know, grow a little much. You know, there is known, you know, because doing that, it may help increase your estrogen a bit. So there's. That's to think about and kind of worry about. But none of this stuff right here is really worrisome at all. Yeah, you can't hmg, Human menopausal gonadotropin. Kind of feel funny taking that because I shouldn't be trying to, I don't know, make myself going to menopause. But then again, and so it's okay. All right, so well, let's carry on. That is here for you, folks.

[JD Denim]

You're up. Hi, guys.

[William T. Ha]

Okay. Hey, guys. Thank you for being such a great resource. For all of us in the community, the podcast has been a wealth of knowledge. I take 60 megs of NP desiccated thyroid in the morning, as well as 30 of lyothyronine T3 right now. I am also injecting AOD and ipamorelin in the morning. I'm taking Tessa Marellin at night as well. Everything wants to be taken in a fasted state. Do I really need to carve out a chunk of time in between injecting and taking the morning thyroid meds? Okay. Or is it fine to take them back to back as neither is likely to spike insulin? Or if it does matter, should I take the thyroid meds first or do my injections first? I also have a bunch of other supplements I take in the morning, but I usually wait 45 minutes to an hour after injecting, taking the thyroid meds to take. Those morning arts are hectic though, and I'm running out of time. Spaced all these things out. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. Okay, dude. So only certain AOD I would take fasted. So the T3. I wouldn't take T3 on top of an absolute full meal. But I'm not that worried about you taking it fasted. What I am really worried about is caffeine. Like, no, do not drink caffeine within two hours of taking T3 before then or after. Also, don't take Any L. Carnitine near. Near T3. Okay. You can get a little, like, almost like, hypertensive feeling. So. But the fasting. Not that important on the T3. The fasting is important on, like, you said, the peptides that use some, like, insulin pathways. So any of the growth hormone peptides, including aod, absolutely. Take fasted. A lot of them. The healing ones. Doesn't matter. Yeah, Brett, it doesn't matter. And I think that's. But. But the HGH ones, it does matter. Take them fasted, please. And, yes, it does matter. People say, hey, between 90 minutes to 30, maybe even up, down to, like, 30 minutes fasted. That's up to you. I've heard different people say different things. Yeah, but that's what I got. Don't even worry about the thyroid meds. I don't know what other meds you're taking, but those aren't. I mean, taking a thyroid med isn't negating a fast. Also, by the way, like, that's not actually food.

[JD Denim]

No. Is that what he was. He wasn't saying that, was it?

[William T. Ha]

I feel. I'm. I don't know.

[JD Denim]

Well, I mean, I don't think. I think. I think it's great to think through it, but I don't think you're thinking a little too much, man. I would just take. If it were me, I'll just answer it for me. I would take my medication and the. The injections, like, right when I wake up, because that's what I do. I take a lot of medications, or not medications, but supplements, and I take them on an empty summit because I fast a lot and I take my peptides. I don't think you got to worry about that, my brother. Like Will said, just the ones that you need to worry about fasted. If it's like a BPC or some of those, you don't need to worry about it. You're not taking those. So you are taking this credagog and an aod. So take it fasted. You're doing it. You're doing it good, man. You're thinking too much. Just take it right when you wake up. Just simplify it, my brother. You'll be good. I'm up. Let's see. Do it for women who wants to take Tessa Marellin but has hormonal imbalance, endometriosis, fibroids. Do you recommend trying a Tesla or any IGF peptides? Well, first off, hormones. Hormones need to be worked on first. I would assume you've gotten blood panel, but you need to do A deep plot. The bud panel. And get that stuff situated because we've said it a hundred times on here, hormones come first before everything. Hormones, getting them in line. And a lot of times it's gonna. For women, you need to have the. It takes a. It takes a long time. Like I just did a podcast on my other podcast about some of the stuff I've gone through personally. And I'm gonna be 49 in less than a month. And what happens, I think for all of us is our body changes, works for a long time for us no longer works. And so you have to adapt, you have to audible. And like when you get out of your sweet spot, it takes a little time to find your sweet spot again. I'm kind of in the middle of that myself. But the hormones, you need to get that situated. So focus on that. I would say do a deep dive and figure out the hormones first. When it comes to Tessa and the IGF one, I mean the test is gonna. You raise your IGF one anyway. So I don't think that matters. It just depends on kind of what you want. You don't really give us a lot of information. How old are you? What are your objectives? How's diet? You don't say a whole lot. So it's really hard to answer what you should do when we don't know anything about. You start with your hormones and then obviously the. The typical stuff. Get your base, eat right, get a lot of sleep, focus on the base. And then the supplements, peptides come later. Hormones get those handles.

[William T. Ha]

So the IGF one, which is what. Well, IGF one directly turns into because it is. But also the Tesla, Marlin, etc will convert into IGF1 as the end standard is. Is to be wary about if you have your endometriosis and fibroids. So I would. I would be wary about it. I would actually talk to a doctor and that's a loaded question because we don't know everything else that is going on with you. So that's not something that actually I can. I would feel comfortable even answering. But I would say you be wary of it please and go see a doctor who knows what they're doing. We can suggest some that actually do know what they are doing and they would be better qualified to actually. Yeah. Give you that answer.

[JD Denim]

We are trying. Will and I have discussed this numerous times. We're really trying to get some doctors on here that we, for lack of a better way to say it, vet to a degree, but are just more outside of like western medicine to the degree where it's just holistic type stuff and that type of medicine because you can go to any doctor.

[William T. Ha]

They're everywhere.

[JD Denim]

But. But that are going to give you a different perspective and maybe run deeper blood panels. You've heard us discuss it. So that's what we. We're working on another gal coming on in the next couple weeks that's going to give a woman's perspective for the hormone. And she's like the opposite of Dr. Scott. She's for you ladies. So we're working on. On getting her on. I think her name is Dr. Wanda. I can't remember. Off top of my head. I think it's Dr. Wanda. But we're getting her on for you to just get a different perspective from. For you women and hormones and whatnot. Because it's extremely important. Equally as important for you ladies. Without a doubt. Yep.

[William T. Ha]

All right. It's me. Right?

[JD Denim]

Thanks Me. No, it's you.

[William T. Ha]

Okay. Bennett. Bennett.

[JD Denim]

Bennett.

[William T. Ha]

One day. One. One day. Desperate for sleep. You can review all the peptides for sleep. Tessa. D. Sip Battalion and differences and which help most with falling asleep as well as staying asleep. Desperate postmenopausal woman here needing some a solid sleep but suffered with server insomnia. I believe part of my issue is also anxiety. My brain not shutting down. Thankful for any help and love you guys. Always super helpful. All right. So we'll do our best. Like I'll give you a quick breakdown. So Epitalin isn't usually thought of as like, oh, that's a sleep peptide. What how it can help your sleep is it syncs up your circadian rhythm, which is actually by me.

[JD Denim]

Which is absolutely like rebooting you.

[William T. Ha]

Yeah. And to be. And I'm sorry, I guess I don't really know what server insomnia.

[JD Denim]

Probably just insomnia.

[William T. Ha]

Does that mean like. And it can't be like you're actually like a server and you work on hours.

[JD Denim]

What is cross.

[William T. Ha]

No. Sorry. But if that's the case, then the circadian rhythm thing is important. Right? Just. If you're used to working a job that has you working opposite of what most humans do, then getting your circadian rhythm in line is very important. So. Epitalin. Hell yes, I'd try it. I would try it for. I would. I would absolutely try it. Epitalin is one thing where you do want to do it twice a year. 100 milligrams spread over 10 days. So that's 10 migs a day for 10 days. Twice a year. Okay. DSIP Delta sleep inducing peptide is one that helps your neurotransmitters get in this relaxed, calm state preparing for sleep. So it does not like just knock you out, drool on yourself, but it will make it easier for you to fall asleep and to get actually to fall in and get REM sleep. So that kind of, of serves both of your purposes. And I would try that and experiment. You know, try up to I've done, you know, 2000 micrograms, 2 milligrams of DSIP and been just fine. So I'd start with maybe a half a milligram, but let's see how your tolerance is. And so the test, the secretagogues Tessa marellin, cirmarellin and CGC 1295. Right. And regular HGH theoretically should help your sleep and help you get more better restful and repairing restorative sleep. Now unfortunately we have heard and that Tesla Mellinson can sometimes do the opposite.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Ha]

Based especially early on and, and you just can ride it out and it will get better. But basically your body is now you're taking that and your body's trying to, to grow and repair. Right. It's almost like you go to the gym, work out really hard right before you go to sleep. You're tired but your body is still awake and doing stuff something that it won't really let you fall asleep. So Sermarellin is the more gentler one of those and oftentimes suggested for menopausal women. So that, that might be the go to on that one. Other than that, jd, I know you have some other like you struggle with some sleep, but yeah, yeah, that's good.

[JD Denim]

I think that's, it's coming up and someone gave me this protocol so I'm going to pass it on to you. I, I dealt with it and it sucks. Cortisol. Your cortisol is undoubtedly high and that is a huge, huge problem. It's ironic that it's been popping up everywhere. That guy yester, the guy yesterday was talking about cortisol.

[William T. Ha]

Absolutely.

[JD Denim]

Cortisol is a beast. It will take the top seat of anything. It, it'll, it'll beat out testosterone, believe it or not. So if you're not sleeping, they generally, generally speaking, this is an right, it's like five hours. But if you're getting less than five hours of sleep, your cortisol is most likely high. And what happens is generally you might fall asleep easy and then wake up like I used to at like 2:00 clock and be like, wow, wide awake. You're not supposed to wake up at 2 o'.

[Depop Advertiser]

Clock.

[JD Denim]

Your cortisol is just high. For me, I think it was the social media stuff. My brain was just always going and I couldn't like let it like stop. So you want to work on cortisol. I know some of this stuff is going to be a little woo woo, but I'm just going to tell you that I, I did a lot of reading on it to try to fix me. Walking on grass grounding is a very huge thing. We don't do it as much as we used to. Walking on a beach, walking on the grass, sitting by a tree. Tree hugger came for a reason. Like you were connected to the earth. These can really reboot your system, believe it or not. So that's the more organic approach. Now I talked about my sleeping problems for a lot and somebody came into my DMs and said, Here you go man, this is gonna fix you. And dude, I'm telling you, I called my wife that day, babe, would you give me this, this and this? And I took this, this and this and this. He even told me how much to take and I've been sleeping eight hours pretty much every night since. So here, let me, let me lay it down for you. So Magnesium, it's number one. Glycine is number two. Ashwagandha. KSM66. I think it's viorian root.

[William T. Ha]

Valerian.

[JD Denim]

Valerian root. And the last one is melatonin, which should be an obvious. But he switched me to. Or he recommended slow. Slow release. I didn't do that in the slow release seems to work well and. Oh man, girl, I hope this helps you because it helped me. I. Dude, man, it's been. I've been sleeping like a baby and I have been completely like a new human. You do not know how much you need sleep until you don't have it. You know what I mean? And it will beat your body down. Stress and cortisol will literally drive you to the grave. That's how powerful they are. No joke. Like so fix this girl, and try that. I hope this helps and if you do, let me know if it works because I'm going to be talking about it a lot because whoever and if you are the person that recommended this, go into my DMs man, I would love to talk with you and thank you because I've been passing it on to a lot of people. So good stuff.

[William T. Ha]

The one peptide I forgot was celank. And how about this? We point your direction again in to here where we have built Already the sleep optimization stack.

[JD Denim]

Sweet.

[William T. Ha]

Okay so that's another thing that you can find in our. In this. In our school which says DSIP secretag Epitalin select. Okay. Goes through dosages, explains each one why what they do individually explains why they work together. Very good dosage chart. Even some like on all the others, some like research, some cited research, sources

[JD Denim]

etc I think would do good for you because it's kind of like you're turning your phone off and rebooting it. It's gonna work better.

[William T. Ha]

Okay, cool. Next one. I think you're all right.

[JD Denim]

Is there anything out there, out there in development to stop the effects reduce the symptoms of dementia or Alzheimer's? And if so would taking it proactively reduce the chance of onset? I have some that are like. Like some you could try. I mean I don't think it's going to be exact but Di Hexa.

[William T. Ha]

What Cmax cerebral. There's a lot so for the most part in doubt there's. The answer is not enough. Absolutely no guarantee that like you take these preemptively and you will not get dementia.

[JD Denim]

No.

[William T. Ha]

But if you look at Dxa Pinella and cerebralyzin, right. Dihexa is really helping rebuild and strengthen the synapses between neurons. Nylon is helping rebuild actual neurons. Cerebraliasin is doing is mix actually of several different peptides and. And amino acid strands and is. And is helping to do the same thing. All of those. I would like you to do your own research on them because they work slightly differently and. And there's different protocols for each which are all available also in school. And those are the three that I would point to. Absolutely them. All three of them are being right now studied for dementia and Alzheimer patients. So there is promising research coming out that that is showing that they are. They will help and proactively. But I just. There's just no guarantee. There's just no guarantee. We don't even. We don't know enough. And that's all I can give to you.

[JD Denim]

Dihexa. We did a little bit of a deep dive on that. So we did on all definitely try them and then again let's get to the basics, man. Get some sleep.

[William T. Ha]

Sleep.

[JD Denim]

Make sure that you are resistance training and eating right. Does he say his name? Age, Man, I wish you would have told us her age. Age is important but yeah man, really build that base. Even if the house you're living in is shaky as hell, you're overweight and whatnot. Build base like restructure that sucker. Get your diet in Line, exercise, get your sleep like this gal bud wasn't sleeping. Like fix it and then build on top of it. Some of this stuff will start to rectify. Not saying all of it, but you'll notice a big difference when you just base set promise you.

[William T. Ha]

All right, trying for a baby pregnancy questions. Hey guys. New to the new to the peptide game and currently going back through all of your podcasts and loving them, trying to process as much as possible. We're due to start trying to have a baby soon and we just wanted your thoughts on any contraindications with taking GHKCU or GLOW when trying or during pregnancy slash breastfeeding. And would you recommend coming off Tessa IPA when pregnant? Thanks guys. PS Due to be purchasing your serum for my belly. If things go well on the baby making. Well, good luck.

[JD Denim]

I will.

[William T. Ha]

I hope things go well and they will. You just think positive. My official answer is I would stop it all during pregnancy and breastfeeding especially. Yes. Absolutely. On the ghkc. You're in the glow. Yes. You're like copper is a heavy metal. Maybe it's light metal. It's a metal that you're introducing your body and we don't want that breastfeeding. So just honestly play it safe. And I would pull. I'd pull them all during. Yes. Pregnancy and breastfeeding.

[JD Denim]

I would bet. I would bet that. I knew he was gonna say that. So you already answered for me. But I, I would kind of think I could answer him when I say this. You can see if you can disagree on that. I don't think either of us really think. Think they're changing me now. I think you're probably going to be okay. Right. But why screw with it? It's your baby. I screw with it. The peptides will be here when the baby's like, you know, whenever you stop breastfeeding or whatever you decide to do. Right. So let the baby just be the baby and then peptides will be here when you.

[William T. Ha]

You are right. I actually would probably bet it would do nothing.

[JD Denim]

But whoever on the side of you,

[William T. Ha]

I want to be the one to tell you to do this thing and then something weird happens. Okay. So. So I don't know. I'd still pull them.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Ha]

Your body's just normally to make a baby. It knows what it's doing. Let it do its thing.

[JD Denim]

That's right. Yeah. All right, so for. For slew, since it's small molecule and not a peptide, how long can we run a cycle and how long should we take off? I Love the benefits I get. I get that. Never want to. Never want to come off if time off is recommended. What's something similar to Ron well off. Love the recent episode with Paul discussing GR, GHRP and GH. I have heard about a small molecule, MK677. Have you guys done any research on this? I've heard there's similar benefits to MK677 without the increase in prolactin, cortisol and hunger. Would love your expert opinions for a female in her early 30s. When do you recommend starting GH vers versus Secretagogs? Is there an age threshold? Threshold which GH would be the better option? Thank you. That's a great question. That's a great question. There's not an exact on anything. I'll tell you what. What I've read and I've done in regards to Slew. I think it's a great compound especially for you ladies. Generally you're going to run it three months give or take 90 days and then take like a month stuff. If you bend on that. Is it going to be a problem? Of course not. I think I've even done it longer than the 90 days. But I have read some stuff though. If you take it it too long it starts to do the opposite. So just know that. And there's so many different compounds out there in regards to like fat burners. You don't say your exact objective but man, gosh, you got AOD, you got 5 minute 1 MQ. Those are just great. You got L carnitine which is. Is amazing. But it takes a lot of injections. But there's. Those are amazing that you can do. When I would start with a secretagog. No, there's not an exact number. General rule of thumb is 40 for me. Now we're seeing that change and get skewed a little bit from I think even when Will and I started talking years ago on growth hormone and testosterone and that is starting to bend backwards instead of 40 like maybe 35. But no, there's not an exact. How do you feel right. How do you feel like when it comes to testosterone? Obviously blood work and stuff like that's going to be. But I would start with Secretagog, maybe a tess. It does amazing for you ladies add an AOD into there. I love those two especially for women. Those two compounds together. I've seen it do rad things. And then you can add the growth hormone in later. I would say start thinking about that. Maybe 35.

[William T. Ha]

All right, so sleep sloop. How long should you be on off. Conservative approach, eight to 12 weeks on, four to six weeks off. That's conservative. If you were. If it were me, I don't take. I wouldn't take that long off. Yeah, it'd be like two to four weeks. But here's what I would do is like, so Sloop is an exercise mimetic. Motsi would be. So you want to kind of schedule these peptides or. Or products that you're taking in cycles and then have something. Because there's so many different ones that just kind of do very similar things. So I'd be. I'd run your Sloop when you get off of that either like BAM 15, which is a good bridge, but also MAT C. Right. So like MATZI SS31 a little bit right before some Matsi as that bridge. And then you could for sure take that four to six weeks off because you. You were. You're doing those four to six weeks. Yeah. Probably longer. Hopefully six to six to 12 weeks actually. Then you can get back onto the Sloop. Right. And just kind of plan these things in your gap. So it's not like when you come off, you got to be off of everything. Other question was so absolutely in your 30s, Secretagogs are the way to go. Now is not. I just based on. Based on just all of these people who I have talked to and have seen taking growth hormone. Like, I just don't even think it's. It's worth taking any exogenous growth hormone until you're at least 40 years old. But I just don't see it doing anything. The biggest thing what you're looking for is, as we age around 45 to 55, is when our pituitary function really starts to decline. And so if that is declining, doesn't matter how much secretive gauze you throw at it. It's not going to maximize the secret of gauge. So at that time, it's time to give yourself real exogenous growth hormone. That. Because then you don't have to rely on pituitary. It skips that and gives you the real thing. Because your pituitary won't actually do. Do much. I don't care how much it's telling it to start working. It will. It won't be that good. So I'm gonna say 45 to 50. 40 to 40 to 50. But like, you can take some. The blood test and have a better, you know, talk to a doctor. And before really taking the growth hormone, make sure that a lot of your markers are acceptable to take. Okay. Anything else you know a lot of that the pro life and cortisol hunger is dose dependent on MK677. Oh, there is a new and I don't know much about it. It's like MK0677. That is supposed to be a lighter version, right? She said like a small molecule version of MK677. There is, there is I think something being studied out there. I don't have much knowledge on that. But you know all of those side effects on MK are really dose dependent. That's why a lot of people like if you're getting really crazy hunger, a lot of people split that dose. The half and half. Right. Morning and night. Then you don't get as much the tiredness. Same reason. Okay. If MK makes you tired taking one big taking 20mg at once, then take 10mg in the morning and 10mg at night and oftentimes that's decreased a lot.

[JD Denim]

Do you recommend that for women?

[William T. Ha]

Not really. I never have. It's so MK is going to just flood your body with growth hormone release. Right. Instead of releasing in pulses. It's like always on. So boom. Flooding. It's gonna that will you grow and help you build lots of muscle. But it. But. But the ghrelin portion of it the hell out of your hunger. And so most women don't want to gain a bunch of weight. And sometimes that's what it happens. Now if you're eating right, you're not going to gain a bunch of bad weight, but you still might just gain too much weight. It also with that flooding could increase like your edema and water retention which women really don't like like. So no. I don't think I've ever really told

[JD Denim]

a woman to like a bodybuilder type

[William T. Ha]

MK677 because it's more of a bulker underneath.

[JD Denim]

Bulkers a little bit.

[William T. Ha]

Yeah. But if you ask, there's my answer.

[JD Denim]

There it is.

[William T. Ha]

Okay. I've had a history of breast cancer. I've been in remission 13 years now. Currently on a weight loss fat stack. I take Retta, NAD plus and Mozzie. I heard recently that possibly NAD and MAT C shouldn't be taken with a history of cancer. Is this true? Also I'm Interested in taking Tessa for the belly fat loss. PT141 for libido and AOD. Can I take those with my cancer history? Any other peptides I should stay away from? Thank you so much for what you guys do. You rock. Okay. I mean we get this one like every time. And again, this is one of these things like really mess me. I don't think it's going to do much.

[JD Denim]

13 years.

[William T. Ha]

But like. Okay, so to err on the side of caution, I do think when we

[JD Denim]

talk to Paul like this, if this

[William T. Ha]

was a family member, this a family member, I'd say don't take any of secre gogs.

[JD Denim]

I knew that you.

[William T. Ha]

And frankly, I don't really. I wouldn't mind.

[JD Denim]

We've literally said that to numerous people that we have a buddy that, that we've told cancer like sitting in our office and like we literally said, dude, like there's so much other stuff that you could take and like, but each his own, man. But like no, we. We do it. That's truly what we feel.

[William T. Ha]

Yep. Yeah. I wouldn't worry about. I would. If it was my family member, I would say I don't really care about the entity. You can take that MOT C also PT141 also AOD. Yes, you can take. Because it has none of those growth effects. Right. It's just the metabolic portion of the HGH chain and. But like no growth hormone. I actually also. The newest research on BPC is telling us that the. Where BBC goes and creates new blood vessels around injuries. Okay. That's why, that's part of why BPC helps healing. Okay. So one extrapolation is people go, oh, if it helps healing them. Right. Then it's going to. And healing is growth. It's going to grow everything. Right. The most recent study of BBC has shown that BBC literally, we already know that it's. It is very selective. So it is only actually growing new blood vessels to help growth near injuries. Cancer cells are not injuries, so body does not recognize those. That's not an injury. Right. So BBC just bypasses. Yeah.

[JD Denim]

And.

[William T. Ha]

And helps grow back actual parts of tissue that need to be recovered.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Ha]

So that's just what the most recent research study said. And so I, I get frustrated when

[JD Denim]

they talk like that. And there's been some stuff like different people saying. I mean you had Paul Baktiar on here and he was talking about how he spoke and at a conference and he. It was a bunch of doctors and they were challenging him on the BPC and the cancer thing. And the thing that it sucks is that like there's so much talk about something that is so healthy and is such a awesome compound. And then let's talk about the pebble that might happen. You don't want to talk about the, the Everest of amazing behind it. It just that frustrates me. Like let's talk about the real culprits which are co. You know, sugars, seed oils and all the food that are all through the grocery store. You know, let's talk about that because that's what you should worry about. Cancer. If you're living healthy and you're doing things right, you try to like eat like single ingredient foods for the most part and like not the crap bright foods and the chip aisle and all that stupid crap that they get us on. You're gonna be good. You're gonna be a lot better than worrying about ppc.

[William T. Ha]

Yep.

[JD Denim]

Trust me.

[William T. Ha]

Yes. So hopefully that answered all those those specific questions just to you.

[JD Denim]

So hello, I was I always hear certain peptides that stack well with one another and cause a synergistic effect. I was wondering if you guys can shed some light on peptides that do not stack well with one another because it would be redundant or cancel the effects of another or should be alternating after doing a cycle of one asking because peptides can get expensive and want to get more bang for my buck question.

[William T. Ha]

Yeah, let me so I would not take so here's what you don't really need as far as the the secrete de Gogs. There's no point in taking multiple GHRHs or GHRP. So do not take Tessa, Marellin, CJC or Sermorelin all at the same time. They all do the same thing and there that is redundant and they will start competing for the same pathways and just be not affected Effective. Don't take Ipamorellin and MK677 what some others that aren't going to be so again with the H exogenous HGH and these GHRHs. Right. So I wouldn't take HGH and I wouldn't take Sermolalin or cjc. Those three. Now there can be an argument on the Tesla, Morellin, the Tesremellon probably if you take that along with exogenous hgh it will not help the TESREL won't help your growth hormone, but it will help target target belly fat and the fat around visceral fat around your organs. So there is still an argument for those two.

[JD Denim]

Yeah.

[William T. Ha]

Together.

[JD Denim]

Yeah, let's get in there.

[William T. Ha]

I don't know what else what other like anything that is really like competing for the same pathways. That is what you want to stay away from. Not I don't know of any peptides. They're truly like dangerous together but waste of money.

[JD Denim]

What you Would say is like a semiglue tide terceptide.

[William T. Ha]

Yeah, for sure. Take those together.

[Depop Advertiser]

You.

[JD Denim]

You wouldn't take all three of those. Now let's tiptoe around the terzepatite and. And retitutide. Because there's some cases when we've. We've suggested people do a little like a little bit of both.

[William T. Ha]

Yes.

[JD Denim]

Either coming off of one or if somebody like needs to. To lose a. A great deal of weight. We've seen a lot of people do well with tirzepati just simply because of it kind of blocks the hunger a little bit better. So you can use them in tandem a little bit. But ideally, you're going to run ratatruet side if you just go to the horse winning the race. But there's always outliers. You know what I mean? But for the most part. Secretagogues.

[William T. Ha]

Yeah, secret. You know, another one is I just looked at it Kiss Peptin. So anybody, if you're trying to take Kisspeptin for fertility and you are on trt, the kisspeptin will be null and void and not do anything. All right. Because that pituitary loop will have been shut down and not listening because your body has enough testosterone no matter what you do in the kisspeptin. Yeah. Okay, cool. Be aware that, like, if you're taking GLOW or clo, they both. They have GHKCU in them. Kpb. So like, I wouldn't take GLOW and then also ghkcu. You're taking the same thing, CLO and kpv. Now I would take either of those. GLOW and CLO and then more TB and bpc because I do think more is better when it comes to those. And you do. And it's absolutely okay to take even more of those because you don't just want to take a higher amount of GLOW and cl because you can't. Your body can't handle that much copper at once.

[JD Denim]

Look. Yeah, that's it. Yeah.

[William T. Ha]

About CMax Delay. Great to take together M1 and 2. I wouldn't take those together.

[JD Denim]

Right.

[William T. Ha]

Pick one. And I would choose Monan 1. Less side effects. Yeah, no big black, you know, no big black spots. Right. Not as much nausea, no sex drive increase. But yeah, that's about all I got.

[JD Denim]

Yeah, it was good. I think we answered that.

[William T. Ha]

Okay, you're up. I'm gonna need to read your sheet because my printer must have broken. Didn't print all the rest of the questions for some reason. Oh, we're done. Two questions. One for my fiance and one for my dad. Beyonce has 30 nude peptides and looking into them for gut health. She had severe ulcerative cold colitis, led to removal of her large intestine. Oh shit. And now has an internal J pouch. Stomach is still really sensitive, upset most nights, so she wants to be able to eat more food. She's been taking KPV, BPCTB 500 and thymosin. A big concern is that one of you met to BBC can worsen autoimmune. No, he didn't. Autoimmune flare ups and for her that's not something to take lightly. A severe flare means a colostomy bag which is her only remaining option. She cannot afford that risk. What would you recommend and what she would avoid? We said thymosin alpha 11 can potentially, it's supposed to, you know, regulate your immune system. But in the midst of an autoimmune flare up, taking that, it's, it's been known to actually enhance that. We did not say BPC or else I didn't or never have heard that. So what I would do is I would keep rolling with the kpv, BPC and tb. That is your best course of action. And I would pull the thymos and alpha then. That's a good answer.

[JD Denim]

I mean that's, that's it, that's what you're running. She runs great. So I wouldn't change it. You're good to go. All right, let's close it out here because I can't even read without glasses. Good. All right, let me take us home. Dad is 63, pacemaker has been in for about 10 years, heart is weak and battery replacement is coming up soon. He started talking openly about life expectations, respect, you can see, which he says is enough. He knows nothing about peptides but is willing to learn. I've been thinking MOT, C, NAD and SS31, but anything that raises his heart rate is no go. He's also starting to talk about the doc and trt. What's safe and actually worth it for someone in his situation.

[William T. Ha]

This is one of those where, where, where I would not be worried about the minor side effects on some things. Like his life is nearing an end. I would just like, like I wouldn't worry about, oh, it might raise his cholesterol if he does trt. Like I'd give him some. I just wouldn't go too high on any of this stuff. Like especially with trt. I'd start low and go very low, but I would give him trt. He's probably tired. He's probably tired. I would give him a lot of things. Just nothing that we know. Nothing that you know that directly absolutely increases heart rate. Right. Don't give him stimulants. Don't give them. Don't give them C max. I mean, I can't really think of many true stimulant peptides. Retatrutide is known if you bump up too fast to increase heart rate. So let's just err on that. Nad go low. Right. It can get a little jarring if you just do too much, but not if you. If you go low and slowly, slowly titrate up. But for him, SS31 MOT C NAD. A lot of those cellular repair ones. I would also give them dihexa first brain. And I would do tot. And I'm telling you all this stuff because I've like, tried to get my father on this and really. Yeah, he will, he will. He's just far away and like, it's just really hard to.

[JD Denim]

He's in his own, like, it's just

[William T. Ha]

really hard to even. Just like teaching the injections and. And then like any little thing that goes wrong, he calls me next day like, oh, you did this to me. I'm like, all right, I'm not going to even help you. He's going to blame everything. You know, that's just how he is.

[JD Denim]

So old dogs, new tricks, man. Yeah, I. I think all those are good. I'm assuming that what you're saying is mozzy and a DNS is 31. Because he's probably tired. You're probably trying to get him some energy. Nothing's going to work like the trt. So I would recommend it for my dad. I'll answer it from that viewpoint. And so those would work. I think that you should try those. I'm assuming his testosterone is extremely low, so that'll make him feel better.

[William T. Ha]

I'd give him secretags too. I mean, his, like his. You know, it'll help against osteoporosis. Right. As we get old, start to get weak. Right. I would actually. Yeah.

[JD Denim]

Probably just give them just straight up H102IU. Done.

[William T. Ha]

Yep. I'm getting. My mother's taking it because of that reason specifically.

[JD Denim]

And just like, make sure your dad's moving. Yeah. Like, get him moving. And if he's not, take him on a walk. I don't know if you live by him or make sure that, like, get him moving, get his diet right. Single ingredient foods, resistance training. I don't know what your dad looks like if he's weak, if he's not weak, like, get them moving, get that blood flowing. Like, get some vigor back in him, man.

[William T. Ha]

Resistance training for sure.

[JD Denim]

Literally everybody should be doing it. Yes, absolutely. You can squat with nothing.

[William T. Ha]

Yes.

[JD Denim]

You know, I mean, like, get him. That's gonna be the best thing. And get him walking outside and it'll work.

[William T. Ha]

Yeah. And don't worry about something that might kill him 20 years from now.

[JD Denim]

Seriously. But good stuff. Yeah, I think that, you know, we even will. And I tend to sometimes because we're talking about peptides, but like, dude, basics, man. Single ingredient foods basics. Trt that stuff, man. And just get the base and then build the house. And then the peptides will work because

[William T. Ha]

they're expensive sleep and proper nutrition.

[JD Denim]

And if you feel like something's stuff, you have to figure that part out now. You know it. But again, we can age well. We can age well in all different forms, even like Botox and skin. I'm not saying you should. I'm just saying, like, there's stuff out there nowadays that we can really age well. I could tell you my goal is to run optimal, to feel good. I want to wake up and kick ass. In my day, we have extremely busy days and I like to be so freaking tired at the end of the day where I was like, dude, I worked my ass off out and then I wake up and do it again. And I do not like to wake up tired. But that takes time and find that sweet spot, baby. And that's. That sweet spot seems to move more when you're older.

[William T. Ha]

So I'm starting to.

[JD Denim]

Where did that sweet spot? God damn it. I was there for five years,

[William T. Ha]

absolute age.

[JD Denim]

Other time he gets us all. But. But remember, no, no. On the 27th of June. We apologize for that and we will make it up to you. We'll make it real nice. Nice. We literally want to shake some hands and just meet some of the people you. You guys write in, man. And always are so gracious and so kind and we'd love to shake some of your hands and just meet you. So it's cool. So good stuff. But other than that, I don't know what the peptide of the week will be, but we'll be quietly recording it on Thursday or Friday and we'll catch you then.

[William T. Ha]

Yep. Check out the school guys for. There's more information there too, later.