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On today's episode of the Real Foodology.
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Podcast, if a medical provider administers a pharmaceutical, they see the patient develop adverse reactions. They go to the insert and see the adverse reactions listed. The medical provider starts to voice his concerns. They get attacked the medical provider. Their integrity is questioned. Their intelligence is questioned. So why would a medical provider raise concerns when they are attacked by their own peers or their own industry?
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Hello, friends. Welcome back to another episode of the Real Food Podcast. Today's episode is a really interesting one and I hope that y'all love it. As much as I enjoyed having this conversation, I sat down with Alexandra, who is the founder of Just the Inserts. You may know her from Instagram. In fact, I found her during the pandemic at some point. It was either 2020 or 2021 when she started her account. To be as transparent as possible with everybody about the vaccine insert. I know that this is a very, very hot topic and chances are some people will probably get triggered listening to this episode. But I wanted to do this because not only have I been personally affected by what we are talking about today, but it's also something that everyone needs to have access to, which is the truth. If you go to her website, justtheinserts.com, she has everything there. Everything is sourced. I want to be very clear that all she is doing with her website is helping people make informed medical decisions. Everything that's on her website, everything that we talk about in this episode is from the vaccine manufacturers themselves. They literally printed these. They put them in the inserts, which are the little paper pamphlets that come with these medical interventions. And you can find all of it from cdc, from government websites. So it is all very well cited and sourced. And if you are at all wanting to dig further into any of this, I highly recommend checking out her website. Just the Inserts. This was such a great episode. I really hope that you love it. If you are loving the podcast, if you could take a moment to rate and review it, it would mean so much to me and it really helps the show. Thank you so much. And if you're enjoying this particular episode, if you want to tag me ealfoodology on Instagram and share it with everyone you know, thank you. Okay, first of all, your name is Alexandra.
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Yes.
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Right. Okay. Because I did not know your name for so long because you were just, you know, just the inserts on Instagram. And I was telling you this right before we started recording, but I found you very early on during COVID and I was so grateful for your account because you were providing real information about the vaccines that could not be found anywhere else. So, first of all, thank you for creating that.
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That's so sweet. Thanks for. Thanks for sticking through the journey. We've had some ups and downs.
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Oh, yeah. I mean, I can't imagine what has it been like running that account, especially during 2020. You probably got a lot of heat.
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I did. I grew very thick skin after that. And thankfully, being a military officer, I had already done a pretty good job at taking my personal views on things and just looking at dov information and realizing that if somebody was attacking me, they weren't attacking the messenger, they were attacking the message. So I did pretty good at that. And then. But just. We're human. And I'm sure you get it too. You get attacked constantly and you share something from a credible source, from a.gov source, and then somebody's commenting about your weight or commenting about the fact that you're a mother or that you're an American. I was like, what? That has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. I'm not a manufacturer insert. So I had to do a lot of mental work going through that. I will say that it was a blessing when I was deleted. I was pregnant with my second child when I was deleted. And I am actually really glad. I had a very unhealthy relationship with Instagram. I was constantly on my phone. My husband can attest. Anytime I got a dm, I was just so frantically trying to solve everybody's problems. And I realized that can't be on me. And I need to provide the training and resources for other people to do exactly what I'm doing. Cause I can't do it for everyone. And that's what really started to get me to start working on the training course and start working on the book. And then I could kind of take it a little bit of a step back. It does give me anxiety to see so many unread DMs.
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Same. I feel you on that.
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I want to answer every single one, but I just can't. I'm only one human.
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Yeah, well. And you do an amazing job of putting so many different resources out there. And I know it must be tough because you probably started this because you care and you want people to have the information. So you want to help everyone, but we can't help everyone. And I try to do the same thing where I'm like, hey, I'm setting you up for success so that you can learn how to do this yourself. How to navigate the grocery store, how to read the labels. And there's only so much I can do. You know, I can't get to every single message. So I'm trying to educate you so that you can be empowered to do it.
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Exactly. Because you're the one that's going to have to deal with the consequences whether you accept, delay, or decline a food product.
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Yeah.
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Or a pharmaceutical product. And so it's important for you to understand when you're accepting something or delaying or declining, you're doing it for yourself and your own reasons. Nobody else is going to be responsible that except for you. And so I really hound on that personal responsibility, personal authority, autonomy over your own bodily choices. It's such an important piece to this because it doesn't matter if you don't have that. If you. If that doesn't mean anything to you, then reading inserts or reading nutrition labels doesn't make a difference.
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Yeah, exactly. Well. And people have to understand that at the end of the day, you're going to be the one that's going to have to live with the consequences. And I feel like sometimes people don't think about that initially. They just think like, oh, well, I'm feeling the pressure. Or my doctor says that I need to do this, but you have to really take a step back and go, okay, but if I make this decision, this could really affect my health long term. So I have hesitated to have this conversation for a really long time. I told you about this before we were recording, but my eyes were open to vaccines at a very young age. Well, very young. I was 21. My little brother was vaccine injured. And actually I was younger than that because I was 11 when he was born. But I think it was around maybe 18 or 19 that my mom had had a real conversation with me and she had admitted secretly because she couldn't even say it to my dad because they were gaslit so much by the medical community to be told that it wasn't the vaccines. But my mom has told me that she knows deep in her heart that it was. The pediatrician also confirmed, but she went through the medical system for 11 years with my brother before he ultimately passed away because of his injuries. It's okay. Thank you. Because they would fly him around to different neurological experts throughout the country. Nobody could ever give them a definitive answer. And the pediatrician was like, look, I'm pretty sure it was the vaccines. I mean, you can go back and read the inserts and see these symptoms. But I wanted to bring you on because I Think you're an amazing resource for this. And also all of your, all of your information comes from.gov websites. So I really want to reiterate that for people because I think there's a lot of. There's a lot of information that goes, you know, all over, haywire over the Internet. And everybody's like, okay, what's your source or what's your, you know, credibility? And I just want to start out by saying that these are all from the.gov inserts. So how did you start uncovering all of this and what maybe shocked you the most when you started diving into it?
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Well, pharmaceutical injury out of necessity for my daughter. She was injured by the synthetic vitamin K injection and similar situation. I didn't really know what triggered it at first. I knew that something was wrong. I knew she was severely jaundiced, she was colic. And I've talked about this before. But there are a lot of more severe things that happen that I will never speak about publicly because I understand how your mom feels and, and I do want to respect her private medical information. I don't want to disclose too much because she's going to be an adult one day, and I don't want to say too much that will hinder her without her permission to speak about it. So I understand that. I 100% understand that. And I have hundreds of DMS, probably thousands of DMS from parents that are whispering the same thing, and they are just so afraid to be gaslit or to be told, well, your son or daughter or you yourself took one for the cause, for public health. And that is just such an insensitive comment. And I've seen it all over Instagram, I've seen it all over social media, and it makes me so mad, especially when you start reading the inserts. So my daughter being injured made me start researching. I've had my own slew of pharmaceutical industry injuries. And it just made me realize that I needed to educate myself. I had no idea about the pharmaceutical industry as a whole, about its products. And I was very emotionally defending an industry and products that I had really no education on. And so I started finding the inserts. I knew that there had to be some kind of legal documentation for every product. Every product on the market has something like, even if you get a vacuum, there's going to be an insert on this, as if you plug this in or it gets wet, it's going to blow up your house or it's going to do something. So it's important for you to be aware and an educated consumer whenever you accept any kind of product, product, and that includes medical products. So I started researching and I was blown away. What I found just some of the things that manufacturers and our government know about these products that are not discussed at large by the medical and scientific communities that are not told to parents and patients when they are being, in my opinion, sometimes bullied into accepting products or coerced by public cultural norms. And it was important to me for if somebody was going to accept a product. And I want to be very clear. I'm, I'm not pro. I'm not ant. I just want you to be informed. If you're going to accept, delay or decline a medical product, I want you to know what manufacturers say about their own products. And so if you were to accept a product under a reason that was easily refuted by a government resource, that to me is medical coercion. And I don't want that. I want you to be informed. I want you to know, hey, if you accept this product for your child, there are known adverse reactions that can predispose your child to increase risk to a subsequent dose. Or if you, if your child has eczema, there are several medical products that are administered at birth or shortly after that have eczema listed as a known adverse reaction. And as a parent, I mean, my second child has dealt with eczema. And that is so hard to deal with. I mean, you just look and you think, oh, it's just some skin rash. It's not. I mean, my son was in onesies for the longest time because he would scratch. And your whole day is structured around dealing with a child with eczema. And especially if it's on their face, it's. It's really hard as a parent and it really affects how you parent. And so all of these adverse reactions are something that you need to be aware of to know that these are potential. So if you do start to see it, you can expedite treatment and that you can eliminate diagnostic confusion and realize, okay, this was a pharmaceutical that maybe affected the liver, so maybe we can focus on the liver, maybe we can heal the liver. Nourishing foods to support liver function, things like that. If you are going to accept the products and then to realize that maybe that product isn't in your health protocol and you can confidently yet politely decline it. And if your provider doesn't respect you, that's actually, in my opinion, a gift, that that's not the right provider for you and you can find another one and maybe you can get some better health care.
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I think as mothers and new parents, really, anyone, really, we tend to think that we're below the medical industry and there's definitely a God complex. And I, and I'm saying this because other medical providers have messaged me and they've discussed their peers and some of the discussions that happen behind closed doors and there is a little bit of an element that they are saving humanity and they're providing a philanthropic endeavor or service to a parent. And so when you walk into that as a parent, you tend to feel that you are stepping on toes or you were inconveniencing them or that they know better. And I really speak to that. You are the expert on you and your child's body. You have the most clinical observations, anecdotal evidence on your body. No matter how long a medical professional has been practicing, they do not have the amount of hours that you have on your own body. And so it's important for you to take that authority and responsibility and not go in and be abrasive or hostile. But just to realize that that is incredibly important in the, the provider, patient relationship. Whenever you make any kind of medical decision, you kind of need to step into that. And some of the times I just have pep talks with people and say, you are qualified, no matter your background, you're qualified to make an informed medical decision.
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Well, and again, I want to remind the listener that at the end of the day, if something happens from that pharmaceutical that your doctor pushed on you, they're not going to deal with the consequences of it. You are.
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And most of the time they won't even see you because it's an ER doctor or an urgent care doctor. So unless they're following up with you and you tell them, most of them have no idea that an adverse reaction occurred.
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And then in the case that happened with my mom and my brother, was that then everybody gaslit her and was like, no, no, no, no. It. It's not the shots. It's not the shots. So when. When that happens, it's my understanding that a lot of these doctors have not read the inserts themselves and they don't actually know what the reactions are. Is that true?
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Yeah. Based on all the medical providers that have messaged me, most of them say they have not read an answer until they themselves become personally responsible or they become parents. And it's interesting. I have a lot of different people that follow me on Instagram and like Olympians and actors and singers and musicians and all these other people that follow me and I'm kind of interest. Never would have thought that this person would follow me almost every single time I go to their Instagram and they are. Have a pregnancy announcement or they just had a baby. And so it's. That is always the genesis. Most of the time when someone starts researching is because they become parents. And the same as in the medical community. Many of them do not read inserts. Or if they do read inserts, I have a few pharmaceutical representatives that follow me. They say, yes, they do, but only when a pharmaceutical representative is providing a specific guidance on an insert to sway them towards one product and away from a competitor. So it's never, is this product safe? Period? It's. This product is safer than my competitor's product. And it's not the whole insert, so it's biased. Yes. And I actually just had a woman, she's a nurse, and she. We were talking about the vitamin K injection, and she said, well, there's no inserts in the box. I never see an insert. And it's because the pharmaceutical, the pharmacy in the hospital, they get a bulk box of the synthetic vitamin K injection. And so when it gets passed out to all the medical providers, they don't have the insert in there because it's only in the bulk box. So she didn't even know inserts existed. She had no clue, let alone the fact they're all on the FDA website.
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Oh, and there was a time, I remember during COVID there was a time where the inserts were blank.
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Yes. Yeah, that.
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What was that about it? Was it just because they hadn't made the time, they rushed it.
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So they don't. So interesting. So I learned a lot about this in terms for the code vaccine. So that was an emergency use authorization. So it was not FDA approved. I would get so mad when I would see that on news outlets saying that it was FDA approved. No, it was not. It was emergency use authorization, which bypassed a lot of the safety controls. I could argue that they're not the most robust safety controls, but even those safety controls were bypassed in order for this product to be brought to market so quickly. And so it was called emergency youth authorization and it was just a fact sheet. It wasn't even called an insert, it was a fact sheet. And it was constantly being updated. And so for to live through that, to see the fact sheet being completely blank and then to see how it is now four years later is nuts to me. To see how much got added and how much we were gaslit about so many of these adverse reactions that are now sitting on the FDA website as being acknowledged as being adverse reactions like heart conditions and blood conditions. All these things that people were bringing about and talking to their providers about. And they were being gaslit and they were being told there's no way, there's no way that that reaction can be tied to it. And then here, now a few, few years later, it's sitting on the insert.
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God, I have so much to say about COVID and I have a bunch of questions that we'll go into that, but I want to talk about the other. The vaccine schedule and all that first. God, it makes me so mad. So I feel like this is also happening too in the doctor's office just with all the childhood vaccines, because maybe, and maybe you can give a specific example of this happening, but a kid will have an adverse reaction and then a parent will say, well, you know, could it be the vaccine? And oftentimes the doctors say, oh no, no, no. And then you go and you read the insert and it's listed on there as an adverse reaction. Yes. Is there an example of a vaccine you could give that.
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How long do you have?
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Let's go, girl.
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So the biggest one, and I always bring up this example because I guarantee you parents don't know this DTaP, that is the vaccine for diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis. It's recommended to two two month olds, four months old and six months old. And then a few other times. But those, those three doses are really important because on one of the D tap manufacturer inserts, if you scroll all the way to the post marketing adverse reaction section, the very last section, it says general Adverse reactions. Within that sub. That section it says Sudden Infant Death Syndrome.
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Oh, God.
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Page 11 on the infant Rex D tap manufacturer insert. It's on the FDA website. I have it cited on my website. To me, that is extremely extreme, extremely alarming because the NIH says that the highest rates of SIDS in America are babies within that time frame. So here it was interesting. I. Someone had listened to one of my recent podcasts and it was this guy in New York and he was a firefighter. And it was so funny. It was one of my favorite reviews of being tagged because it was just. I just enjoyed it so much. He was wearing a rucksack and he was outside and he was listening to one of the interviews. But he, I. What he said was so. Just beautiful. He said, when did we get so bad at solving puzzles? And it's true. Because here, yes, correlation doesn't mean causation, but causation requires correlation. We have the.gov resources and the manufacturer saying that Sudden Infant Death Syndrome is tied to a vaccine that's given at the highest rate of sids. How is it that when you go to a doctor or pediatrician, how is it legal for them to say that that's an impossibility, that SIDS could be tied to vaccines? And how can the CDC have and some of their resources allude that SIDS is not tied to vaccines?
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I mean, it's maddening. Just to reiterate this again for anybody listening that is maybe feeling triggered or they want to like fight back to this. This is literally information that's on.gov websites. This is coming from government. From government websites. Like, I don't know how else to say that more clear. But it. What's crazy to me is I was just thinking about how there's going to be so many people that are going to fight back and they're going to be really mad about this episode. And don't shoot the messenger here, but I'm like, how do I even go there, go from there? How is this possible that this is happening right now? I feel like it's the corporate capture of Big Pharma and all of our agencies and they're all include. They're all colluding.
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Yes. It's actually quite terrifying when you start researching all of it. And I try not to go in too far, too deep because it can be really overwhelming. But to understand a piece of this discussion, you kind of have to understand the whole. And so in my book, I do talk about how a product gets brought to market, how it gets added to the childhood vaccination schedule. And unfortunately I provide.gov resource resources that prove potential financial conflicts of interest, mainly in the organizations in the CDC and FDA that approve these products. Many of them have waivers of having financial interest in companies that benefit from their products being added to the schedule.
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Of course they do.
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And the reason being is the justification that's provided is that in order for them to have the expertise level to, to be able to decide if this product would be added to the schedule, they need to have some pharmaceutical influence. And so I, yes, I understand that from a business perspective, but if you look at it from a patient perspective, that's terrifying. Especially because the Childhood vaccination Act of 1986, there was an amendment done, I believe in 1993 that allowed the one page sheet that's provided to parents before they get a vaccine. It allowed that to differ from what's on a manufacturer insert.
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What?
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So on the one page sheet given those are called vaccine information statements. Vis when those are given to parents, it might have a little blurb on the bottom that says rare side effects could cause severe injury or death. But if a parent saw sudden Infant Death syndrome typed out on that insert, they would probably pause and have a lot more questions. I mean, as new parents, we are hounded. Put your baby on your back. Make sure that there's not a stuffy or blanket in there. Make sure that a fan's going or all these different things. Don't co sleep because of sids. And yet here we have SIDS listed on a manufacturer insert given that's required in some states and recommended to all American babies. It's bonkers. It sounds conspiratorial, it sounds crazy, but it's true. It's all on there. And also too, to understand that there are certain, I want to be very careful with my words. There are certain incentives for providers to make sure that every child in their practice accepts that product financially. There are potential financial conflicts of interest at that level as well. So there's many layers to that cake, unfortunately.
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Yeah, it depends on if you look at, you can go and look at CDC schedule, you can just type in cdcschedule.gov and it'll pop up. It depends on what time of year the child was born. So flu might be recommended at a certain time of year, RSV or Covid. And so it kind of fluctuates between 60 to 70, depending on what you're looking at. Yeah, but it's crazy. And it's crazy to me that you getting five, your entire, entire childhood. Now that would be just one visit for some children, that is.
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So that's what I want to talk about because I see a lot of people fighting back, saying, well, my kid didn't get 76 shots. So let's talk about a lot of the doses or a lot of the shots have more than one dose in there. Right.
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They're called combo vaccines. They will take a different vaccine and put them into one injection. And also people don't realize too, some of the vaccines are not injections. So the rotavirus is drops in the mouth. So some parents don't realize that their child's getting a vaccine. They just think it's a drug or a vitamin or something, but it's actually a vaccine. And there's also flumet, which is up the nose. So there's injections, oral route, and then through the nose as well.
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What is the concern with things like mercury and formaldehyde in those vaccines?
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A lot. I mean food. I mean, you see it in food. For me, the concern is here we have a fairly juvenile, brand new liver. Depending on when you get the vaccine, or let's just talk about babies, you have a brand new liver, brand new kidneys, brand new, all of this. And yet you are putting in doses that mirror adult levels. Some of these vaccines do not have the difference between an adult and a child. Now some of them do, some of them have different dosages, but still you have, you have this expectation that the child is going to filter out. They're called excipients. These. Those are the ingredients that are not just the dead virus or it depends on if it's live virus or if it's MRNA or. Depends on what kind of vaccine you're talking about. But there are adjuvants that can lead to a lot of potential adverse reactions. Aluminum is a huge concern, especially with the brain. There's so much research about memory issues. Yes, exactly. And autism, adhd I actually go through because when I'm. I'm more of. I want to show me the receipts, show me the facts. I don't want to just blatantly accept a truth. I want to. On either side. I don't want to fall into the logical fallacy hole. So whenever I research something, I try to be as objective as possible. I kind of wipe my slate clean in my mind. And I look at, okay, what does the government say? What? These manufacturers, they should be the most insightful on their products because they make them and they monitor them and they're forced by the FDA sometimes to update the insert. So what do they say? And there is more and more research about aluminum being tied to the TDAP and given to pregnant women in third trimester. There's a study that I cite from the NIH in my book, and it's about how environmental toxin extension exposure to pregnant women can lead to autism in her child. And one of the highest levels of aluminum is tdap, which is given to a pregnant woman.
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Wow.
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And I couldn't find any studies. I couldn't. I was. Surely I'm not the only person talking about this, but I actually just was on a different podcast with Dr. Charlie Fagenholz. He's fantastic, if you haven't heard of him. And he was speaking about RFK Jr actually in 2015, brought this up, and he was just ostracized and attacked. And it's just, It's. To me, it's almost an insult to our intellect to say, oh, well, that's an impossibility. Where in science do we ever say that's an absolute impossibility? That is not science.
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Exactly. We need to explore all areas, especially when there's direct connections to this kind of stuff. I mean, kids getting sids. And then it literally says on the insert that it could be a side effect. Why are we not studying all of this?
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Right.
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You know, and this is why I was like, you know what? I need to just come out of my silence with all of this and speak about it. Because one, we have so much information now, more than we ever had before. But also we owe this to our kids.
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Absolutely.
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A
Because we know that this is happening. So what is happening as far as under that 1986 Vaccine Protection Act? Was that what it was called?
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B
Yeah, the National Childhood vaccination Act of 1986. I have to say it all at once.
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A
Okay, yeah, I know I'm like, I have it somewhere here in my notes but I couldn't find it.
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B
I wish they would have shortened it a little bit.
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I know that's par for the course of the government. I feel like under that, does it state that vaccine companies are not held liable if a kid is injured?
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That's a great question. Yes. So it removed all liability for manufacturer insert or manufacturer companies for vaccines specifically. So whenever I talk about repealing the 1986 act, my biggest thing is make pharmaceutical companies liable for all of their products. They have prescription medications with inserts that have equal or more dangerous adverse reactions on the market and yet they're still profitable. And that's one of the arguments you get was well, they had to do this or they, they wouldn't be profitable. They couldn't have provided this service to American population. So that's why they had to remove liability. No, no, no, no. There's other products on the market that are just as lethal in some situations and yet they still make a profit. They still can do that. They can be held liable for the adverse reaction. So this was mind boggling to me. When you start researching the vaccine, National Vaccine National Childhood vaccination Act of 1986 there was basically created a national injury vaccine compensation program. And what that did is say if I was vaccine injured or my child was vaccine injured and I wanted to seek compensation. You know, I needed to have a lot of medical, I had a lot of medical bills. I have to have continual care for my child or myself and I wanted to seek reimbursement. I would be going to a government agency and asking for financial compensation and that financial compensation would be from taxpayers on each vaccine. So for each vaccine that is given, there is at least 75 cent tax on the vaccine. And I see, I say at least because it's 75 cents per disease that's prevented. So if you have the influenza vaccine, that's 75 cent tax on each influenza vaccine. If you're talking about DTIP, that's $2.25. So all of the people that are accepting vaccines are paying taxes to pay for serious injury and death for vaccines, not the manufacturers do you know how.
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How often do people actually win these cases and get compensation?
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It's very hard. It's very hard. And. But even with that being said, I have a few lawyers that work these cases. It's incredibly hard. And you have to file within a year. At least the last that I checked, you had to file within a year. And you have to have the vaccine lot number. You have to have so much information to do this claim. But even with it being so hard, there's over, there's like $5 billion that have been paid out since its creation.
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Wow.
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Which is crazy to me because I've.
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Heard of people winning them, but I've heard it's very hard.
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It's extremely hard. Yeah.
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I mean, I can only imagine it's hard enough to make an insurance claim. They make you jump through freaking hoops. I can only imagine. Try to claim playing one of these.
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The hard part is, is there's so many vaccines given at one time. How do you know which one did it? And with everything, all the other pharmaceuticals that are administered, you have Miralax used off label for children, you have acetaminophen, you have all these other things. So it's interesting because when you first look at pharmaceuticals for children, you know, the doctors will say this is, this is a, a gift for a parent to use. There's no adverse reactions. But then as you start re reading into the weeds of it, they start kind of eating each other and they start to, they're like, well, it was the propylene glycol in this medic caused the toxicity. And they're like, oh no, it's this medication that caused it. And so as a parent, especially if you don't have a medical background, can be so overwhelming that you just throw your hands up and you don't even want to report, you don't even want to deal with it because it's so stressful and it's so hard to weed through everything because it's so convoluted.
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Yeah, well, and that was going to be my next question is from the research that you've seen, is the thought that the, the adverse reactions are happening more from the adjuvants, like the fillers and stuff that are in there, like for example, the formaldehyde and the mercury or is it the virus mechanism itself?
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B
So that's really interesting and we're gonna go even a deeper level here. So most people don't realize that there are shedding happens with vaccines. So unfortunately, if you have an immunocompromised family member, you could be shedding a virus onto them. So when you're speaking in level of what's more harmful or dangerous, if you're trying to prevent a disease and then you end up having that disease, if you are immunocompromised or a family member, the reason why you're getting that injection, you could be causing the. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. Sometimes and many times people will say, well that's impossible. Go check the inserts. For example, MMR lists atypical measles as a known adverse reaction to the mmr. The surgeon general pick that just came out, there's a viral video of her talking about how important MMR is. Every single adverse reaction or complication that she talked about in regards to measles is listed as an adverse reaction to the mmr.
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Wow. Well, and there was a. I wish I could remember the year and I tried to find it but I couldn't. But I remember in maybe it was like 2017, 2018, maybe you'll remember this. There were all these measles outbreaks that were happening in like New York school system and they were connecting them back to the vaccinated children.
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Yes. It's really hard to find that in.gov. i found it tried back in 2019 and it's gone now. I need to go back on the way back machine and try to find it because it did say that it was from a vaccine strain and insta. Everly Ashley, she's done a fantastic job on finding a lot of the older the CDC like 70s, 80s CDC I actually really like because they will straight up say this was from 100% vaccinated population.
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A
Wow.
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So if you have 100% vaccinated population still having a measles outbreak or still having an outbreak of polio or whatever it is that to me communicates that product isn't as effective as you think it is.
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Yeah, well. And the shedding is a big deal. I remember everybody was talking about that during COVID and that was a really big concern with the COVID vaccines which we're gonna dive into in a little bit. I still wanna ask you a couple other things while we're on this subject. Okay. So this might be a little bit off of topic of what you're able to speak to. But for example with like measles and MMR is the measles vaccine. Right. And then there's the polio one. So there's obviously a lot of concern and fear that if we don't vaccinate our children towards that, that these viruses will come back. How much can we attribute vaccines to the eradication or at least what's the word? Like suppression of these viruses versus things like cleaning up, sanitation.
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B
Yeah, that's a wonderful question. So I have a section in the book and in my training course on this. And even in the polio deep dive, I talk about it because it's so important and it's important for us to understand.
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A
We need to know the truth.
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History. Exactly. Exactly. So for. In terms polio. Polio actually has a very troubled past. And I don't think a lot of people realize this. If you go on to the CDC website, they'll recommend the National American History Museum. They have a website where they actually have an entire timeline of the polio vaccine. So when it first came out, it was the inactivated polio vaccine. So that was an injection. And all of these pediatricians started realizing that recently vaccinated children were developing polio in the vaccinated arm, where traditionally it was in the legs. So they started doing more research. And then about, I think it was 11 people died from this vaccination program, which is terrifying that that happened. But they realized there was a laboratory. It's called the Cutter Labrador Laboratory, and it's referred to as the Cutter incident. So you can go look this up. There was a laboratory that wasn't filtering the virus properly. They weren't using enough formaldehyde to kill the polio virus. So instead of a parent vaccinating their child to prevent polio, their child got polio, some of them fatally, which is horrible. Like that is to me. So when someone talks about how great polio is, no, that was a failure. That was a medical product that caused death. And that to me is not a success. So then when that happened, the oral polio vaccine, the ones in the mouth started coming out. They started to phase out the inactivated injection and bringing in the oral polio. The concern with that is that vaccine is live. That's where you see a lot of shedding. And oral polio vaccine is still used globally. So you see a lot of those cases of people coming into America and shedding the oral polio vaccine because they have to be vaccinated before they come to the United States or immigrants or anything like that. And then they shed the oral polio vaccine. So I believe it was the CDC and I have this cited that said that there were more case of vax, more cases of vaccine derived polio than there were wild strains.
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A
Wow, that's. I mean, yes, Horrifying.
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So it gets even better. So, so they realize, okay, that was a failure. So we failed on the first one, we failed on the second one. So then they started to bring back the inactivated polio injection. They changed the formula, made sure there was enough formaldehyde to, to kill the virus, and they started to phase that back in around 1997. And that's the polio that's currently on the market.
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A
So my question is, with the shedding, how are more parents not getting this virus when the kid comes home after getting their vaccinations and their shedding?
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Well, just what you talked about, better hygiene, more nutrients also too. We don't really take into consideration how a virus works. I mean, when that's what the whole conversation is about. Herd immunity, that can happen naturally. That doesn't have to only be a pharmaceutical. That accomplishes that. That can be natural. Now, I can't speak to the, the specifics on that because I don't, I can't speak intelligently on, I don't have that background. But we have seen that in other situations. Speaking of COVID we saw the COVID cases going down during the summer before a vaccine was even brought to market. And I noticed that, I looked at the data on the CDC website. I noticed that for the polio vaccine, you can all check this out and it's interesting. You'll look at a CDC graph and it said, oh, look, the vaccine came to market and then polio started going down. But if you zoom out and you look at the whole graph, polio was already going down before vaccine even brought to market. Same with tetanus. Same situation when we started to have less cows or horses, horse manure and getting construction workers getting punctured by rusty metal with cow manure. So that, that's less. Situations like that. You saw less tetanus.
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Yeah, that's really interesting. So what would you say to a parent that is feeling really maybe in turmoil about both sides of this? They're concerned about an adverse event, but then they're also concerned about these diseases that, I mean, they pose a threat. But in, in my opinion, and this is just my opinion, I don't think that they pose as much of a threat as they used to. I think a lot of the fear that we're feeling is propagated by the big pharma companies that want to sell, sell these pharmaceuticals. But that's just my opinion.
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B
Yeah, that's, that's a great question. And it's, I want to say it's, it's it's valid. I mean, for you to worry about a disease, that's valid. For you to worry about an adverse reaction, that's valid too. And that's why I try to come in at it in a position of you know your child best and you know your situation best and to have that awareness of your, of where you're living, your stress levels, how you eat. All of this comes into play with your immunity in your body and how your body functions. And so to first understand that to make a knowledgeable and confident decision is really important. I think a lot of us have been trained to outsource our medical decisions to medical professionals. And that's wrong. We shouldn't be doing that. We should really be understanding our biology, understanding how a medical product interacts with our body. And all these are on the inserts. And I, and I, I won't leave you hanging. I have training, free training, no email required. You can go and learn all of this within two to three hours of how to find these resources and make informed decisions for yourself. But that's the first step is understanding that. And then I have an exercise called Root of Fear and it's writing down all of your fears. And if you have a partner or spouse, I really recommend doing that together. Write down what are you afraid of? Are you afraid of your child not having education or employment opportunities? Are you worried about them developing a complication to a potential disease? Are you worried about your doctor being mad at you? Are you worried about being judged because your kids are going to be the, the non vaccinated kids? All of those are valid fears and each one has a different answer. The answer to researching a disease and being afraid of the disease is different from you being afraid of offending someone. So I try to in the book address all of those and weed out which one is more important for you to research first and also to realize as well that if you are afraid of a disease, understand that this pharmaceutical, according to the manufacturers, will not 100% protect your child. It says many vaccine, vaccine manufacturers have a section called limitations of effectiveness. And unfortunately it's very bare. It just says this product may not protect all individuals. So that's important for you to know. If you have a fear of a disease, maybe you can research other things you can do in your life to prioritize organic food or prioritize having a less stressful work environment, not being exposed to certain areas around you that you know are high incidences of disease, those types of things that can help you a little bit More to make a more empowered decision.
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Yeah, I love that. I mean, we saw this during COVID but there was such a suppression of conversation around our own natural immunity. And I was blown away by this because with my background, you know, I got my master's of science in nutrition. And so when Covid first came out, I felt really well equipped to go online and say, hey, y'all, you know, this is a novel virus. We've seen coronaviruses before. We have never seen this one before. So I want to be very particular or very careful and say, you know, we obviously don't know definitively that this is going to work, but I know how the immune system works. And if you get fresh air, you get vitamin D from the sunlight, you take vitamin C up your vitamin C. Right. Now, we know scientifically that these help boost our immune system. We know that sleep really helps their immune system. We know that limiting our stress, because really high stress can actually suppress your immune system. So things like this, educating yourself and knowing that the healthier your body is, the more well equipped your immune system is going to be to fight stuff off. And you'd mentioned this earlier about the herd immunity or. Sorry. Well, herd and. But also natural immunity. I remember there was this video circulating during COVID of Fauci saying in the 90s that if somebody had gotten the flu, they don't need to get the flu vaccine, because that's a better version of immunity anyways if you already get it.
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Yeah.
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We have Fauci on camera literally admitting to that and saying it. And we've always known this to be true in science.
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B
Yeah.
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But now we're being scared because these pharmaceutical companies have so much money.
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B
Yeah.
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And they have a lot of money on the line. Guess what? They're making a lot of money by giving your kids 75 doses. Do you know how much money that is? You think about the millions of kids that we have in this country, and then you think about times 75. We're not talking about child's play money here. This is like really big money.
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There's. That's why there's so many pharmaceutical lobbyists, and that's why Kelly Means is really trying to go after that, that there is a flawed system currently. And it's not crazy to talk about it. It's actually very responsible to talk about it. And that there are potential financial conflicts of interest. And I kind of call it a sales funnel. When a parent's going into a doctor or even just a regular patient going into a doctor, there is a Sales funnel. And I have a business degree. And when I look at it, it's genius the way that they set it up. It's. They have streamlined their business, they are extremely productive. And how they've standardized all of it, the insurance companies, I get it from a business perspective, but from a patient perspective, it is not honoring of informed consent. And I think that the more patients that experience these adverse reactions. One of the one, I was talking with this one woman and she was just going back and forth with me constantly. And I said, let's do a little experiment. I said, next time you go into your pediatrician's office, just express some hesitation to a vaccine. Don't even say you're not going to get it. Just say that maybe you have some questions and see how your pediatrician acts. She came back to me and she's like, oh my gosh, he started cussing at me. Like it was just horrible situation. And sometimes it's not that bad, but. Or they just change their tune and their attitude and how they get treated and the gaslighting. And then you realize there are some bigger, deeper things at play here. And I'm not saying blanket statement, everyone's like that, but it's something to be aware of. We saw this in the opioid crisis. We've seen this in so many other pharmaceuticals. Why is it such an impossibility to think that this could be happening in the vaccine industry?
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I mean, like you said, it's absolutely genius. Not only did they get policies in place with the federal government to where they can be mandated to go to school, and then they also gave protection to the, in the big pharma companies. And then on top of that, they made a whole thing about it to where if you even ask a single question, you could be kicked out of your pediatrician's office. They could literally tell you, you know what, we don't need you as a patient anymore. I mean, I've heard stories of this where people get literally kicked out. And it's so crazy. Parents just want to be able to ask simple questions of what am I putting in my child's body? That is a very valid question that honestly all of us should be asking. And the fact that we have made it to where you can't even ask questions. I mean, look what they did to Jenny McCarthy.
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Yeah.
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That's why I never spoke about any of this forever because one, I didn't want to take the heat of that. I also didn't feel equipped enough to. But now I feel like there's enough information out there. And also again, every single thing that we were talking about in this episode, you guys can go back, there are receipts, you can literally go to.gov websites and you can match up up every single thing that we're saying to know that this is the truth.
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Yeah. And what kills me too is we have legislative protections in place. And in a lot of our states, not all of our states, but in a lot of our states we have exemptions, we have religious exemptions, personal exemptions, medical exemptions. And many parents have no clue. I was just sitting with a group of friends and one of them was talking about how she has to give her child vaccines because she has to put them in daycare. And the state that I live in, there are multiple exemptions available. And as easy as just printing off a one page sheet off the Internet and getting it notarized at a ups. That's how quickly and easily it can be. And she had no idea. So she said, I don't want my kid to get vaccines, but I have to because they have to go in school. And I said no, no, no, no, no. If you don't want vaccines, you don't have to do it. If you want vaccines, fine, please do it informed. Just be informed about your decision, but don't be getting them because you think that you have to. There are exemptions.
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When I was in college, I was able to do a religious exemption for I believe in college it was the flu shot, I think. And I was like, no, I'm, I'm, I got exemptions. But you know, there's caveat here. There's a lot of places like California, for example, all of my friends that are having kids right now are leaving or they're doing homeschool pods with their kids because they don't want to have to vaccinate their children and put them in this. And in order to put them in the school system in California, they mandate it.
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B
And that to me that is a huge violation. Informed consent. In order to have informed consent, you must, must be able to accept, delay or decline. If you cannot decline, that's not informed consent. And I, I posted this and said we need to repeal 1986 and we need to end all mandates. You cannot have a society that values informed consent and have mandates exist at the same time. They're mutually, mutually exclusive.
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A
Well, also it takes away the fact that, that there's bio individuality with humans and brings me to my next question. Are all vaccines, all safe and all effective for everyone?
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Depends on who you Talk to. So if you, if you go to the FDA and you go to the cdc, anytime, they talk about safe and effective, almost every single time it's in relation to something else, it's never safe and effective, period. It's always, this vaccine is safer. Based on clinical trial data, this vaccine is safer than the potential complications of this disease. So it's never, is this period, is this vaccine safe, period. To me, if, if a product has SIDS listed, it's not safe. If a product lists influenza, that's meant to prevent influenza or influenza like in, like illness, that's not effective. So for me, as I read through it, I do not think that some of these products should be can allowed to be on the market because I don't think they are safe and effective. And if anything, just pull them for the market so we can have more study safety trials on it, have more information about it. RFK has talked about using other avenues that we could use for immunity to boost your immune system. It was interesting. I think you've seen. I don't know if you share this. Somebody else shared this, but it's the people that were attacking him and they were saying that he was anti vaxx and saying that what he was gonna be doing is really scary. And it's like, no, if you're accepting these products, you want him to do what he wants to do because he wants to make them safer.
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A
Exactly.
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If you're going to accept them, he's trying to make sure that you don't experience this laundry list of known adverse reactions. Those are just what's known. There's a whole bunch of unknown because we now have the COVID vaccine administered to pregnant women. The RSV vaccine that's administered that just came out a year ago. You have the flu, they have like all these MRNA combo ones that they're doing. And then you have a RSV antibody that just came out. Well, we, hopefully the mother, if she had the RSC vaccine, the child wouldn't be getting the antibody. But you never know. There are some things that I've posted and like, there's no way. And then I get someone commenting saying, oh, well, my doctor recommended that like, oh my gosh, please read the insert, please.
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The vaccines during pregnancy. This, this like, really, really kills me.
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Oh, and the. And it doesn't say this on the insert, but the anecdotal experience that I get from people when I first posted dtap and Instagram's deleted my dtap, my TDAP post twice. I cannot put it on there. So I have a highlight and I have it on my website, but whenever I post about it, I get so many women that say I got the TDAP and then I went into preterm labor.
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A
Oh my God.
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B
The connection is crazy to me.
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A
Yeah, I have a girlfriend. This is fully anecdotal. This is just me saying this. Who got the COVID vaccine while she was pregnant and a week or two before her due date, had an embolism, had to have emergency C section while they were also performing brain surgery on her. And it is now being thought that it was because of the COVID vaccine. Now I want to be like very careful when I say this, but coming from several different sources and I just want to maintain. Need the privacy for the family. But there is a big concern that that was what happened.
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Right.
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And you think about it, there were no studies done on pregnant women for the COVID vaccine, but then doctors were pushing it on everyone when they were pregnant.
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That's right. That's when I got deleted. I did a post because I was pregnant at the time. So I, you know, was pretty person. It was personal to me. And I was getting messages from women saying that they were skipping prenatal appointments because their medical providers were pushing the COVID vaccine so hard. And that to me is alarm bells with preeclampsia, with blood pressure issue, with all these other things that you need to be checking a pregnant woman on for diagnostic reasons and just for treatment, early treatment reasons. If you have a woman skipping prenatal care because a medical provider is pushing an untested, unapproved product, that is a huge issue. And so many of them were so worried. So I ended up pulling. I believe it was the American OB G Y N. I can't remember the private organization that runs that, but they had been talking about the COVID vaccines being recommended to pregnant women. And so I pulled their donor reports and there were all of these pharmaceuticals that were making. Pharmaceutical companies that were making Covid vaccines were providing funding to this organization that was recommending code vaccines to pregnant women that the CDC was saying, okay, well, this, this, this private organization is recommending the COVID vaccine for a pregnant woman. Therefore, now we recommend it. And you'll see that a lot. There are plenty of times on inserts where it'll say there is not enough data to suggest that this could or could not prevent a certain reaction. Consult your physician and then you go to your physician and you talk to your physician. Most of the time they are a member of an external organization that receives funding from the same pharmaceutical. To me, that's another big issue and another layer of that sales funnel that you're getting.
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A
Oh, I mean, it's so hard because it's like, where do we get the good information? You know, because it feels like everything is colluded and corrupted. And then my biggest thing is, whenever we get pushback about this conversation, people don't even want you to have the conversation. People don't even want you to ask questions. My thing I always come back to time and time again is at the end of the day, vaccines are still a pharmaceutical. They are a pharmaceutical. And there is no pharmaceutical on this planet that doesn't have side effects. Just period, fact, end of story. Now, that's okay. I've taken many medications that I get a long list of. You know, the insert that says could have the X, Y and E adverse reaction or whatever, and I still took it. So it's not about. And I feel like I just have to state this in the episode. I am not doing this podcast episode to encourage anyone to not get vaccinated. I'm only encouraging people to fully inform themselves because there have been so many instances in my own life. Like, I mean, I think about this all the time. When I was younger, all of my girlfriends were putting on birth. Being put on birth control. Nobody, not a single one of us, was being told what the side effects were, that it could cause X, Y and Z, that you could have these issues. I remember explicitly going into my doctor's office one time and saying, well, I'm really worried about gaining weight if I go on this. And my doctor said, oh, no, no, no, no. That's just like wives tales. And then you go and you read the inserts and it says that that's one of the side effects.
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B
And this was. This is what really got me with COVID Because it was a emergency. It was a medical health emergency. Medical providers entered a status where they would be basically not held liable for the information that they provided. And that was a huge issue as well. Is that medical negligence? All of these other avenues that we could use to hold medical providers accountable, they no longer had that liability. And that's. And. And I have so many medical providers that follow me, and so many of them love what I'm doing, and they are just cheerleading and providing information for me on the back end because they are so afraid to speak out. They see these adverse reactions. I give the example in my book because I was anonymous when I wrote the book, and I actually. My name is nowhere on the book. And on the very last row, it has the about the I author section. I provide a scenario on why that's the case. Because if a medical provider administers a pharmaceutical, they see the patient develop adverse reactions. They go to the insert and see the adverse reactions listed. The medical provider starts to voice his concerns. They get attacked the medical provider, their integrity is questioned. Their intelligence is questioned. So why would a medical provider raise concerns when they are attacked by their own peers or their own industry? It's such a broken and flawed system. They are shamed or scared and into submission and they. Some of them can't even exercise their own bodily autonomy. They can't even get flu. I had this one woman, she's getting ready to apply to be a resident as a hospital. She's an md and she was asking me how to get a religious exemption for the flu.
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A
Wow.
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B
I'm like, this is so broken.
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A
It's so broken. Well, I was just reminded of a story. So I don't know this pediatrician personally, but my doctor in LA was telling me that she had a really good friend who was a pediatrician for 20 years who ultimately left that job and went a more integrative route because she had started. And she was a conventional allopathic pediatrician. She started raising questions about the vaccines because she. In her own eyes, in 20 years of raising these children and seeing all these different children in her office, she started to think, okay, maybe we shouldn't be vaccinating these kids as much as we are. Because she felt like we were over. Over vaccinating them. It was harming their immune systems. And then she was like, I have never seen such a rise in asthma, eczema, psoriasis, allergies, like, all of this stuff that she was able to connect back to, guess what? Our immune system. Our immune system drives all of that. That. And my point in all this is that she eventually left that career because they were not allowing her to practice as a pediatrician in California. Telling her patients that she didn't advise them to vaccinate their children anymore because they were trying to strip her medical license. And she got sick of it. She was like, I'm done. Like, they're trying to take my medical license away from me because I'm trying to do my job as a doctor and inform my patients what I think is best for their children.
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B
Yeah, yeah. And that we. A lot of the, like New York, California, they still have medical exemptions. And doctors that will give a true medical exemption to a child, they get Attacked for doing that?
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A
Oh yeah.
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B
And it's horrible. And I'm doing, I'm working on a provider directory right now. So hopefully in the new year I'll have a directory of, of pro. Informed consent providers. And right now I, I've hired a few people to vet providers and contact them and stuff. And, and so many of them had pediatric practices, had clinics and things that they were working in the allopathic conventional healthcare, but they had to leave because what they joined and went through years and hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt to do, they were no longer able to do in the current system. So they had to leave that system to be able to help people, to be able to help find. Help people find healing and true healing. Not band aid fixes.
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A
Yeah. Yes.
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B
Not cause. Yes, exactly. Like so many of these pharmaceuticals, people will say, well, why is this listed as an adverse reaction? How is that connected? But when you start realizing that some of them, they just turn off your pain receptors or they just mess with your hormones and, or they might prevent a hormone from excreting properly or something like that, that can affect so many other parts of your body that we don't even consider until it happens.
- [65:13]
A
Yeah, absolutely. It's. So, yeah, it's, it's a crazy time that we're in right now that our medical providers are also, their hands are being tied. And I think this is important people understand that this is happening because I know, I know people in my life that are, well, if my doctor doesn't say this, then I don't believe anything you say. And I'm like. But I think a lot of people don't understand that a lot of them are in limbo and they're, they're having to go back to the insurance companies and their medical license boards in order to stay in practice. So there's only certain things that they can say and do, which is really concerning.
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B
It is.
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A
So I learned about VAYERS during COVID actually, and there was a lot of pushback because people said, well, anyone can write something in vaers. It's not really vetted for. So how do we actually know that it's true? So what is VAERS and what would you say to that? Is it actually something?
- [66:06]
B
Yeah, I saw that too, and it drove me crazy.
- [66:08]
A
Me too.
- [66:08]
B
So VAERS is the vaccine adverse event reaction system and it is a post marketing surveillance system that the CDC set up to track adverse reactions after a product goes to market. There's also fairs, which is the FDA's adverse event reaction system. Those are for drugs. So both of those are surveillance systems and both of those are very important. If you look at the cdc, fda, nih, all of them will speak to the importance of these surveillance systems. According to the FDA and cdc, delayed adverse reactions or rare adverse reactions might not be known until millions of people receive this product. Most people don't understand in clinical trials the outliers or like we were talking with pregnant women, special populations aren't included in clinical trials.
- [66:57]
A
Yeah.
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B
And so the answer to that is, and you'll see in most pharmaceutical inserts, they will have a section of special registries. So if a woman is pregnant, they will encourage the woman to register in a pregnancy registry. So if they had an adverse reaction, they can report it to this registry. So basically your uncontrolled test subject. So theirs and fairs is very important. And it drove me crazy when I saw these comments and I tried to. The best way that I could try to explain this to people how important is if you go onto the VAERS website, you can just, just type in V, A, e, r, s and.gov and it'll come up the submission form. At the very bottom of the form, there's a huge warning that says that you could be fined or put to j. Put into jail for putting in a fraudulent report. It's also extremely hard to fill out this report by yourself. You need collaboration with your provider. You need to know the vaccine lot number you need. It's the same for the vaccine and injury compensation program. There are so many things that you need to provide in that report that for people to just say that it was just like an office complaint boxer kind of belittle. It was. It communicated to me that they have not researched and they've not read what our, even our own government says about these reporting systems.
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A
Yeah, I mean, and VAERS was going like crazy. I actually just had Senator Ron Johnson on my podcast before I spoke with you, and he was talking about early on he had checked VAERS and he, he found that there was something like three. And this was very early on, there was something like 3,000 already reported deaths. And he brought this to his colleagues and they all said, oh, you know, it's fine. And he was, he was beside himself. He was like, this is 3,000 people also. This is a untested pharmaceutical. I don't care what anybody says. That was the biggest thing that people would fight me on. They'd say, oh, that's baloney. Like it's been tested. And they've been testing it for the last 20 years. I'm like, the only research that came out in the last 20 years of our MRNA found that the animals actually died from the vaccinations. So if you want to go there, sure. But this had never been tested on humans on a large scale like this before.
- [69:07]
B
Yeah, especially for a preventative product. I mean, we talked about breakthrough infections a little bit or shedding for Covid. And you know, there's so much debate about spike proteins. And, you know, you can find five resources that say that spike protein shed and then other five resources that say they don't. I didn't really spend a lot of time in that book, but I did spend time on what the CDC calls breakthrough infections. So here at the very beginning of COVID how many people did we see say you have to get this in order to stop the spread? That you had to do your. Your right. It was your civic duty to get the COVID vaccine and you only needed one. And it would stop the spread and your body would create the spike proteins to prevent you from spreading the vaccine. And now it comes out the c. And I have this cited on my website from a.gov resource where it says that breakthrough infections still happen with 100% vaccinated individuals. That means they've accepted all of the boosters. That just blows it out of the water right there.
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A
I know, I know. Well, in that I think Covid woke a lot of people up because there was a lot of inconsistencies. There was. I will never forget this. You might have actually been the one that posted this that I found. But I remember early on when they were really pushing the vaccines and then they were going on, on the news and saying like, I will never forget this. Rachel Maddow was like, if you get the vaccine, then you won't get Covid and you won't be able to spread it. And I remember somebody I followed and it was probably you said, hey guys, here's the Pfizer research right here. And not only did they not even test for transmission, but they can't claim that you won't get Covid and that you won't transmit it, because they didn't even test it and they published this.
- [70:49]
B
Yeah, well, the Pfizer leaked files. I don't know if you remember that. I went through a lot of them and there was a. There was a biology. Oh, gosh, it was in synthetic bio physics. Like, can't remember the title or something. But she was helping me look through all of it and she was telling me that there was an alarm that went off before it was allowed to be administered to the public. And basically it was the DNA sequence that they were using to basically train your body to create these spike proteins. And there was an issue with, like, the sequence slipping. I. I can't speak super intelligently on it, but there was an issue there. And so it says in the Pfizer leaked files that instead of stopping and not going public, they just changed the. The QA measures, the quality assurance measures to include that. So then it was no longer an alarm.
- [71:46]
A
Oh, my God.
- [71:47]
B
This is all in the Pfizer.
- [71:50]
A
Those are the files, by the way, that. Not even PfFizer, but the FDA tried to block us from having access to those for 75 years. Oh, how convenient. So they're going to release them when all of us are dead?
- [72:02]
B
Yeah, yeah. So when I say this, I. I try so hard, I try not to talk about it because it just sounds so crazy. And then you, you know, people start to just discredit it because it just sounds so out. Out of there. But then when you actually look at it Gov resource, and then you're like, well, how is this not front page news? How are we not. Where are all the investigative journalists? This is gold. Like, this is prime things that you can ease. I'm a mom of three, and I found this. Like, there's got to be someone out there that can find even more.
- [72:34]
A
Well, and there was, like, there was Senate hearings about this. Like, there we have receipts. Y'all can go look all of this up. It sounds conspiratorial, but all of this was happening. Senator Ron Johnson was talking about how the FDA was trying to block the information. Information from coming out. So, yeah, it sounds conspiratorial, but all of this is true and it's. It's madness. But, you know, the reason the reporters are not reporting on it is because guess who funds them. Brought to you by Pfizer.
- [72:57]
B
Oh, have you seen that video of all of the.
- [72:59]
A
Oh, the compilation. It's unreal.
- [73:02]
B
It is. It's almost like it's satire.
- [73:04]
A
It's like parody. It's like an SNL skit. Like, how are we allowing this? So I pretty much got through all my questions. I do want to ask you. This might be a little bit controversial, but what does the epidural insert say?
- [73:17]
B
So there's several different types of epidural. I covered one, and it. There's so. Man, there's a slew. So one of the biggest things that was concerning to me that I had never heard about was that opioids like fentanyl can be mixed with the epidural. And a lot of moms aren't told that. They have no clue that they and their baby could be exposed to fentanyl for the epidural. The. There's also a really alarming. And the reason why it's really alarming is because the NIH says that 1 out of 8 women experience postpartum depression. And I just did a reel that had plenty of products that are recommended during labor and delivery, including the epidural that have anxiety or depression. Listed as known adverse reactions.
- [74:05]
A
Wow. I also heard that. So I found out about the epidural and the fentanyl a couple years ago because I had a woman come on my podcast and tell me that, and I. I think my jaw dropped on the floor. I was like, they're what? They're giving us fentanyl? Not us. I have not given birth yet, but they're giving women fentanyl. And I heard, and I read that oftentimes the baby will then be born kind of still, you know, messed up on the fentanyl.
- [74:30]
B
Breastfeeding.
- [74:31]
A
Exactly. And then they can't latch. And then the mom takes it on her and. And thinks, like, oh, what did I do? I did something wrong. My baby's not latching. And it's. No. They're actually coming off of fentanyl. Right. And moms are not being told that.
- [74:41]
B
Right. And then they're giving the baby vitamin K injection, and they're. They. They're trying. Their liver is trying to get through the fentanyl. And then now they just have the synthetic vitamin K that has propylene glycol, that has glacial acetic acid that has all these preservatives that are adjuvants in it, and the baby's trying to filter it out. And then now you're looking at jaundice, and now you're looking at all these other things that, in jaundice can be fatal. There's a lot of complications with that. That. And so you look at these situations, and it's just heartbreaking how women are so. The mom guilt is so real, and so many women in my DM say, I regret so much that. That I just didn't know. I spent all my time researching bassinets, and I. All my time. Car seats, which are important. Those are very important things to research. But it's also really important to know what you're accepting for you and your baby in order to bring that baby in, into the world. And while you're in the hospital. And I have a free motherhood guide for anyone listening. No email required to access. It's on my website and it goes through all of the products from preconception to postpartum for baby and you of what you might be recommended and just some things to be aware of so you can make a more knowledgeable and confident medical decision.
- [75:53]
A
Informed consent, it's the most important thing and the threat of this whole conversation. And I want to remind those mothers too that. But don't allow guilt to consume you. Look, we've all made mistakes in our lives, myself included. Things that we wish we could take back. But it doesn't serve you to sit in that shame and that guilt. We're all doing the best we can. We're doing the best we can with the knowledge that we have. And there is a massive machine that is against us right now. It is not your fault. And this is just one of those things where you have to recognize that you did the best that you could with the knowledge and information that you had at the time. And now that you know better, you do better beautifully. Point blank, end of story.
- [76:32]
B
Yeah. That bitterness will consume you, speaking from experience. So it's best just let it go and focus on your present moment and. And just make the best decisions going forward.
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A
Yeah. Okay. I want to end on one last question because I'm sure a lot of people are. Are feeling a lot of mixed emotions about this episode. What are your thoughts on anti Vax? Pro Vax? What. What is your stance on that? And how do you personally, what do you label yourself as?
- [76:58]
B
I guess that's great. So I personally don't play with those definitions because. Let's just talk about provax for a second. So if somebody says I'm Pro Vax, but if they don't accept all the vaccines blindly and to the adult schedule, then you could be considered anti vax because you don't accept all of the vaccines. And same with anti vax. Are you anti vaxx because you have never accepted a pharmacy or vaccine for you or your child? Because a lot of anti vaxxers have accepted so really they're X factors. So I don't even deal with those definitions because I think they're very subjective and I think that those definitions change on based on who you're talking to. So I really focus on pro informed consent. My goal is never to make a medical decision for you. It is just to make sure that you are informed. I don't want to replace your research I just want to streamline your research and I just want you to make sure that whenever you do accept something that you're doing it because you decided to do it. And if you don't accept something, make sure you're doing it because you don't want to do it. I, I see logical fallacies and fear based manipulative tactics on both sides of the full spectrum of the vaccine conversation. And I don't like any of it. I just want you to be informed and going into that decision. Not feeling coerced.
- [78:20]
A
Yeah. And I think that's great. I hate, I think the term anti vax is just a way to gaslight people and it's a narrative that everybody's parroting from Big Pharma. Don't let Big Pharma have control over us. You know, you can have bodily control. You are allowed to ask questions about pharmaceuticals that are going into your body. I will never forget RFK said years ago, he was like, I spent most of my career trying to pull mercury out of the water and nobody called me anti fish. Or he was pulling mercury out of of fish, but they're getting it from the water. And he said, nobody called me anti fish. I'm trying to get these harmful ingredients out of these vaccines and now everybody's calling me anti vaxx. It's crazy.
- [78:58]
B
It is, it is. And I think it's meant to divide. Yeah. And that's not good either. And I love, I love the diversity of my community and of your community as well. I've seen it too. I think it's great that we all make different decisions and we can all respect. And that's another reason too. But I think it's important for you to research and be aware of all of the external pressures when it comes to this decision. So then if, even if you accept that product, you can respect somebody else's decision to maybe delay or decline that product.
- [79:27]
A
I just want you all to have all the facts so that you can make a real, true, informed decision, not a decision based off of manipulation or part of the facts. You know, that's my only prerogative with all these episodes that I do. So hopefully you enjoyed this episode today. And please let everybody know where they can find you, where they can find the information. Your book plug, all of that.
- [79:47]
B
Everything is just the inserts.com made it easy. You can find me at just the inserts on X and Instagram. But thank you so much for having me and thank you for being bold and sharing your story. I know that takes a lot of vulnerability and a lot of courage. So I just appreciate you sharing. I'm sure someone listening can resonate with that and hopefully encourage them that they're not alone.
- [80:05]
A
Thank you. And thank you so much for your boldness. I mean, during COVID I. I thought of you often, actually, because every time I'd see you do a post, I'd go, I'm so glad that you're doing this. But also, you're probably taking so much.
- [80:16]
B
Heat for this a lot.
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A
Like, I would be sweating for you. I'd be like, oh, thank God somebody's doing this. But like, wow, that took a lot of bravery and a lot of boldness and really grateful for your voice during that time. Well, and now too. Just so grateful for all the work that you've done. So thank you.
- [80:32]
B
I appreciate that.
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A
Thank you so much for listening to the Real Foodology Podcast. This is a Wellness Lab production producer produced by Drake Peterson and mixed by Mike Fry. Theme song is by Georgie. You can watch the full video version of this podcast inside the Spotify app or on YouTube. As always, you can leave us a voicemail by clicking the link in our bio. And if you like this episode, please rate and review on your podcast app. For more shows by my team, go to wellnessloud.com see you next time. The content of this show is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual medical and mental health advice and doesn't constitute a provider patient relationship. I am a nutritionist, but I am not your nutritionist. As always, talk to your doctor or your health team first.