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The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Hey, can you come pick me up? Yeah.
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What's wrong?
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Nothing.
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Are you sure?
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Yeah. No, I just need a ride. Ride, ride.
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I just want to have fun.
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Start your engine. Take care.
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I'm Benito Skinner.
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I'm Mary Beth Barone and this is Rye. Are we rolling? Can I just say, isn't anybody going to notice my purse?
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Go. No way. Was that what you were going to say?
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Yeah, sorry.
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Now I only hear you in one ear. Keep all this.
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I was going to say we started early today, which is the first time ever in the history of ride. It's 4:59, right after dark.
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Oh. Pitch black outside. As I walked here, I thought, I'm going to be on time. I wonder if there will be a full crowd applauding when I arrive.
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I wanted to. I brought you a treat. Not even knowing that you were going to be early.
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So she brought me a sparkler. Sparkler. You guys, if one of these is on the table, I'm on my back.
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God's dead, by the way. Let's talk about that.
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How do we not start with that? This season is insane. I actually think, like, it's a time capsule. We should never listen to it again.
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I don't think so. Yeah.
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It's hard, though, as a fan of you. Because I'm fan first.
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Well, yeah, as am I, by the way.
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Thank you. Thank you. It's hard to not go back and. Because I. I keep thinking I'm like, what are the funny things she says? The TikTok has made that so easy. And again, these are these dynamic things that bring up these real fucking zingers. I find that I actually have nothing to say as I'm in the writers room.
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That's not. Oh, oh, I see what you mean, because you're in the writer's room. Also, I have a little cold right now. I think it's allergies. It might be a cold, but I'm like a week into it, so I'm not contagious. I'm just gonna say that. But it is why I sound like this. So at one point you turned to me. I don't know what it was born in reaction to, but you said, God's dead.
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Mm.
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You said, God's dead, by the way. And I didn't hear it.
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I'll tell you after what it's about.
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So I said, who? And you went, God. And I went, oh, oh.
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And then we both went back down into our phones.
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Yeah. God said, by the way.
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Who? God. Oh.
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And Then we move on.
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Oh, okay.
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Who's Madeline?
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Who's Madeline? So, obviously I have a new tic, and it's consumed me in a way you can't even imagine. But I had this, like, really strange, like, dystopic thing happen where Lily Allen's new album. Yes, we're talking about it this season. Cause like anything, it's just too pervasive.
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Not to, I think.
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Agreed. It's consumed me too much. Like, if I did, I'd be restricting myself and the podcast to a certain degree. I mean, come on.
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And me? Yeah.
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I feel crazy today. Oh, we've just been. Okay, I'll just tell, so.
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Oh, no, no, no. Can I start? I woke up this morning in Baltimore. I was in Baltimore, which, by the way, I have a lot of love for Baltimore. My brother went to Loyola Maryland. Then he lived there for many years.
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My aunt lives in Baltimore.
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Hello, hello, Hello. And my good friend from high school, Ari, and her lovely husband Sam live there. So I actually was excited to go. I did have to do a show at Johns Hopkins, which college shows are so interesting, and actually, we're gonna cut that. I did a show at Johns Hopkins.
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Keep it.
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No. Okay, fine. So I woke up in Baltimore. I had to take the Acela to. To New York. I was on Zoom on the writers room. On the train, got in a cab, stayed in writer's room, picked up Pinky, went home. Writers room. Now we're here. And I have a date with my gay guys tonight. That's why I'm wearing this.
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I was about to say I'm wearing lingerie for Lucien with two gay guys.
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Well, that's.
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How have we talked about Jake Samis on the pod? Is this Jake Samis's debut?
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It might be Jake Samis's debut. So Jake is Benny. Stylist, Brilliant. Stylist.
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Stylist. And just a total bestie.
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He only styles the hottest guys.
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Well, he's a darling of the pod and a darling of our lives. Really. It's one of those things where if he's coming, I can tell you spark up a little bit.
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Well, I.
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He's one of those gay guys that's got you on attention.
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I know. Well, the thing is with me is, like, I fuck with 999 out of a thousand gay guys. It's not 99 out of 100. It's 999 out of a thousand.
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Yeah.
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And he's just one that I fuck with. Dude, I hate you too. I just met him and I knew immediately. Same when he drove me to the Coachella party, the overcompensating Coachella party. And his Land Rover. I thought, this is a man that's going to be in my life forever.
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We had you in the backseat, and we knew we got to pump this girl up. We gotta reinvigorate, set the tone in a lot of ways. We met when I was a little slutty football player for Vanity Fair. And he did that. That was all him. Whoa. Yeah. And he was like, we're doing the pads. And he was just incredible. He's got vision. And we have to call that out. People are the Kai Newman of it all. I got so many messages about Kai Newman.
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That's weird. I got none.
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Well, they know who to come to.
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Yeah, they do.
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So, friendly fire, if you will. So what? I still can make her laugh.
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What did you say?
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Five hours of pitching, you freaking college bullshit, and you still laugh.
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What'd they say?
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Season two's so good. Sorry?
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So good.
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It's so good. No, just people being like, you know, what's the backstory here? Like, we've never heard you guys talk about someone in this.
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We gave the backstory.
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I gave it. I just. He's the best. And some of his friends were like, you're gassing him up too much.
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Who?
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I'll tell you later.
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Okay.
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I love all this offline stuff. It must be so fun to listen.
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To this and watch it, for that matter.
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Oh, wait, didn't we skip something?
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Well, you were going to say, I think what you did today, but then it felt like we got so far from that that I wasn't sure if you wanted to circle back.
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What I did today?
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Yeah. You were going to be like, we're in the writer's room all day, and blah, blah, blah.
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Oh. If you're curious. I feel like we keep talking writer's room, and it's like, you know, if you're gonna talk about the industry in that way, explain it.
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Yeah. What is a writer's room?
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Everyone's asking. It's the question on everyone's lips at the CFDA Awards. But, yeah, it's essentially just like, you go on Zoom for five hours and pitch things for episodes, and we're three.
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Episodes in, and it's been so fun.
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It's so much fun. I love this goddamn program. The most fun is knowing the actress playing the parts. Now, like, the first season, we just didn't know that, like, you weren't even casting. Fuck, I wasn't even cast. Let's be real. Let's Be real. So now knowing that we have to do it is both scary and so fun. And I've been training for the thing I'm doing in the season, and it's like, I'm electrified.
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It's fun. Well, I also want to say. And this gets into my ride a little bit, but I did want to just say congratulations on moving to New York at the best possible time, which is when we have elected Zaran Momdani to be our mayor. It's a new era Alert day.
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After I got here, I moved on my birthday.
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I know. And I was at the party, the results party, and it was kind of funny because, like, they announced he won before everybody got inside because it was so obvious. So it was. I mean, it was a fabulous evening, but it was just kind of funny, like, because it was like. Oh, yeah.
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More of like a birthday party than a ball drop.
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Exactly. Oh, my God. That's so true. It was way more of a birthday party than a New Year's Eve party. But I am so proud of everyone who got involved and got.
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I'm proud of you. Can I just.
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Thank you.
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Me and everyone here at Melrose Podcast Studios on Avenue B are so happy. No, you're incredible. And you really brought him in front of so many. And I know maybe you won't accept those flowers, but you should. You were wearing V with him on stage at the bellhouse, wearing gloves. You wore evening gloves, my darling. And I just think he's incredible. And New York City, what an amazing time to be here. I feel so lucky.
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And I'm starting a new movement. So, you know, okay, here's the thing. Like, there's a lot of, like, old ideologies that we can modernize, but we just have to make them. We have to put it in a language that people today can understand. Of course, there's this idea of champagne socialism. And I'm starting a new movement, which is called Dior bag socialism, which I have spoken about. And I feel like people really latched onto this idea of being a socialist with a Dior bag. So if you identify with that, you are a Dior bag socialist. And it's like, as long as you'd be willing to give it up to help someone in need, you can call yourself a socialist.
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Here's the thing. What word do I say on here the most is that duality?
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It's duality.
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Me in the writer's room. It's duality.
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It's duality, but it is.
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It's duality.
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And I'm Just excited.
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One thing.
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I'm not just one thing. And there's a lot of. I think I'm excited for these ideas to spread, and I think New York is gonna be an even better place to live, which, like, I didn't know is possible. I've been here for 13 years, and it's just been. Not a bad day.
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13 years. 13 years.
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Not one bad day. I dropped out of college when I moved here.
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That's so wild.
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So it's almost 14 years, actually. We're coming up on 14 years.
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Wow.
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And it hasn't broken me yet.
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Someone asked how many years we've been friends, and I actually didn't know what to say at that point. Is it seven?
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We're coming up on seven. But it's one of those things where it's like. I guess I just think of myself as always having known you.
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Hey, I met you in every life.
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Yeah. No.
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Yeah.
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What's the thing from past lives that I think there is something special, as you mentioned, with watching someone vape and seeing them naked. There's something really interesting to me about watching a barista squash the dirt. The matcha. Dirt with a kabuki brush.
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Oh, the matcha. I thought you meant the espresso. When they pop, pop, and then they unhinge it, it's matcha.
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It's earth that they grind to make matcha.
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Ceremony.
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And they do this with a kabuki brush.
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Ceremony. It's ceremonial. It's ceremony.
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It's ceremony. It's sort of adjacent to watching them make guacamole at the table. But it feels wrong for some reason.
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Sorry. You can't say guacamole at the table without me thinking of it just like that.
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Well, I know. And I said that on purpose.
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That being, like, a thing. Restaurants, I think it's cool. Do whatever you got to do. But sometimes those interactive things, I just sit there and I don't know where to put my eyes. So what do you want me to do?
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There's nothing you can do.
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I just.
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Have you heard of surrendering? It's that.
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No. Can I just say, I actually haven't heard about that.
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Wait. I'm telling you right now.
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Wait, what's it like?
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It's something you could try.
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I've been working with a trainer here. Shout out, Michael. Sorry, Junior. It's really hard. That was the first time I've done that.
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I'm not amplifying. I'm saying nothing.
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And he asked me a question today. He's like, do you ever not do something in a really intense way. And I thought.
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No, no.
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Yeah. And then I slammed my head against the mirror. Yeah. Yeah, that's it.
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I wanted to follow up on being a Pepsi family because my mom did something that was so cute.
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What'd she do?
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So, Vicky, my sister, saw my mom come in with Coca Cola, Diet Coca Cola. And my sister was like, oh, what? Why not Pepsi? And my mom said, they ended their DEI initiatives, so I'm not buying Pepsi anymore. And then my mom was like, and now Coca Cola, I think, like, donated Trump's inauguration or something adjacent to that. And my sister just said to my mom, I think you can keep buying Pepsi. I think it's okay.
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Pepsi's Pepsi.
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But thank you. But, like, what a beautiful gesture to be like, I'm gonna give up this lifelong love of Pepsi because of their abandoning dei.
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And she's gacking down an Olipop in the backyard.
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Oh, God. Ginger lemon Olipop. We're like, mommy, you don't have to do this.
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Hey, hey. You don't have to do this.
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You don't have to do this. My mom's so funny. She texted me on election night. She. She's so, like, tapped into the culture. But this text exchange cracked me up. She goes, are you at an election party? I said, I will be in 40 minutes. She said, well, the opposition was so desperate today that they were flooding Insta with the most outrageous stuff. And I said, oh, my God, like, what? And then she goes, he's not what you think? Supported a terrorist and shit like that. They knew they were in trouble.
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She's got this sass. No, she's a spunky little naughty girl.
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She's crass, she's blunt, and she is unapologetic.
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She's my favorite woman. Jesus Christ. They don't make them like that anymore.
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They really don't.
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I wish they would.
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I know. I'm. I'm as close as we're gonna get.
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I know. And, hey, and I'm pretty happy.
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I'm trying.
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So I just want to talk about this great date night we had at the cfda.
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At the cfda. Thank you for having us. What an INS Insane event. Insane. Parentheses, complimentary.
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It just felt like. So I had just arrived in New York. It was my 32nd birthday. Yeah. I literally thought I was 33 for a second. I'm 32, right?
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You're 32. I'm 34.
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Cool. Okay. I just wanted to check and to just get to do a carpet with your best friend, but the press Line.
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With your best friend.
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The press line that. A long press line.
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It was long. It was lengthy.
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I will say I had no idea that Mary Kate and Ashley, we're gonna be there. And so for that to happen, I've had people ask, like, what were they like? And so lovely. But it was like, two seconds. But it was really. They were led the wrong way. Not by me, but not. Not by me, I think, in a lot of ways. And I just said, like, you trusted a gay guy. I don't know what to tell you. And I got a little giggle. So I felt great.
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That means the world. To see you on a stage together meant everything to me. I hope you know that.
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Well, I told them. I said, I'll spend anything on the real. I don't really give a fuck. And they. They giggled. So I got a few giggles. I was kind of doing bits.
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You did Like a tight five.
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No, of course I. I love that.
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I mean, there's images of you together, like, so we're incredible.
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God, I've never felt like.
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Just more like they like it. Photoshop.
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Yeah. I felt kind of like a security guard when we were walking, though, because I've never seen more phones and more people stare. Yeah, they really are.
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Because they don't step out that much.
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No. Which. How so Fabulous. So the mystery that.
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Reputation. Reputation sweats. I know.
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No, it was. It was truly. It was a magical night because I got to be in New York with my bestie at the Natural History Museum, and it does get into my ride.
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And then you came over and you hung out with Pinky for a minute.
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Well, it was my birthday, and all I wanted to do was eat cereal with Pinky in bed. Got my wish. Pretty easy. I'm a simple man.
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You are a simple man. And I've always said that he wants for nothing.
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Want to know something kind of sad, though?
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Yeah.
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I didn't get any gifts. I haven't gotten a single gift for my birthday.
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Well, I was working on one that unfortunately did not pan out.
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I know. It was very sweet.
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It's hard. And I have said this before.
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Hey, can I just say, I'm not shouting out, but this happens.
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But can I just say to anyone.
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If anyone likes the. The joy of opening a present, don't do a podcast episode where you say you don't care about your birthday because. Okay, I don't care. But, like, you know, I'd love a top.
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I bought you a photo on Getty Images. Oh, my God.
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Wait.
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First of all, don't make me Come up with receipts. 2. You are literally the man that has everything. So I'm just like, I don't know what to get you at this point. Like, I want you to know. And I, I, I, I will do. I will do off season. As you know. That's more my vibe.
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But I want you to know, I want you to know this. I'm a grown man. I don't actually need a gift. I just thought it was funny because I was like, oh, like you really do get to that part in adulthood where it's like, oh, shit, I can't when you're single. Oh, yeah.
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Oh, okay. God's dead, by the way.
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Who?
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God.
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Oh.
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Oh, no.
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I got. You know what? I did get a present. I got to spend an amazing night with my bestie in midtown. In a lot of ways, with shellacked hair. I felt like a little sex pot next to a sex pot.
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It was an awesome night. So we decided to give my nieces the weekend off. And Benny is here to do ads with me. And guess what we're starting with. It might be called third love, but it's the first ad of the week. Third love.
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Available in the US and to just say specifically, too, HBO is not available in other countries. So do you know what I have to do?
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Yawning. Sorry, ExpressVPN. It's not you. I'm just tired.
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I am. She has to. It makes her think of home. Yeah, and. And la, her favorite place.
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How do you know if anyone was going to read that?
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All of it, please. We need a wish list on gold belly Turkey.
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Yeah.
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I love that.
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I mean, yeah, duh, it came.
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I would say if there's anything you're skeptical about with ordering Gold Belly, just let it go.
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Where'd y' all get this gold belly?
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It's so fun talking to someone with you, knowing we're thinking all the same exact things.
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Yes. And that's a thousand times.
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Like, what could be better than that? Like, someone says something and I just think that man just said he doesn't trust female pilots. And I get to talk about that in the car with Mary Beth in.
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A gay guy, for what it's worth, not straight guy.
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And I thought, what? 20 minutes left and I get to talk about this.
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I go, what do you know about it?
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Yeah, I just thought, what led you to that statement to me here?
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But also, I do want to say I Learned a lot that night. I knew going into it wearing satin was going to be a risk. I knew wrinkle, big wrinkle potential. And yes, that did happen. But you know what? Sometimes you just have to wear the peach satin dress and just own it.
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Wear the Alberta Ferretti.
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Wear the Alberta Freddy.
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Okay?
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Wear it. Please just sit off.
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I thought it was a choice. You know what I have to say. Everyone is so up. Everyone's booty cheeks about wrinkles. And it's like I'm wearing the clothes. Like I'm sitting in a car. I'm.
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I'm moving. I'm shaking.
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I'm on a lime. It's wearable.
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The Roberto Cavalli that I work for, Seth Meyers that I got so much flack.
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It was like that on the Runway.
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Before you come for me, check the Runway image, please. Just do your research.
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Let me point you to the little site called wwd.
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Wwd. And yeah, you need to subscribe.
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Honey, flip through the book, please. Yeah, you have bangers lately. Like, I just get to just.
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Well, these are all the thoughts that if I was gonna, I guess write a book or if I had Twitter. I don't know either one of those two things. Hey, put them in the show and I will.
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That's me. I can't even. Yeah, I have no original thoughts. It's only via the show. So if.
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And stand up and all that shit.
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Well, yours goes into stand up, which is amazing. I haven't thought of a stand up bit. And like, well, except my incredible bits I did for the.
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For Mary Kate and Ashley.
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Yeah, never mind.
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When men tell me they listen to Audrey Hobert, I'm like, are you hearing what she's saying? Are you internalizing the words you say?
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You're listening, but are you listening?
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Are you hearing? Yeah, because I feel like if you were, you might act different.
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Oh, that just reminded me my story of Lily Allen, the dystopic.
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Oh, my God.
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Yeah, just stick around, you guys. We'll always come back to you.
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Where did we even go from there?
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I don't even know where we are.
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I don't know. We're at the Geneva Convention. We're in Geneva.
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You guys. This might just be the set, by the way.
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Yeah, I think we found our permanent home now that we're no longer to Vagabonds. Although we will be in London soon and we will be back in the library.
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I cannot wait to be back in.
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That library at before the Lights uk.
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Incredible. Oh, I'm pumping iron there.
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And as am I.
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It's really hard to communicate your voice via text sometimes. Do you find that? Lily Allen Coming soon. This is my commercial for it. It's coming in a sec. Yeah, but I just. I. I kind of go too. Too hard, too fast. No.
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Well, you mean with Josh?
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Yeah. Was I a little too intense?
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No, I liked it.
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I just. I want an ask because, I mean.
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Every text, Every text conversation you're in, I'm also in.
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Yeah.
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Every text you have is a group chat. I was thinking of all the things we share. Trainer, manager, manager, realtor. There was more.
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Now we gave me the best realtor in the world. Because the first thing you asked me was, I'm a lamb. What are you? And I said, I'm a monster. And then that was it. I was like, okay, I'm in. And then we sang Migrate to each other.
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Wow.
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Locked in. I said, oh, family.
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Speaking of a gay guy that I'm gonna know for the rest of my life.
B
Oh, Philip. Salem, my love.
A
So, Lily Allen.
B
So Lily Allen. So I love this album also. I've been a Lily head for so long.
A
Me too. Oh, my God. Riding through the city with my bike all day because the Phil took away my license. That's from her first, I think first.
B
Album, Lots of Money.
A
I don't care about clever. I don't care about funny Mike.
B
And also I loved Come On Then, the last like album she had. I love that song. I thought that was a great album. It's like in 2018. So this album. So I'm listening to it on this flight because I cannot sleep. It's a red eye. I'm at Buzz. You know, I left la. It was very sad.
A
New York welcome to New York New York it's been waiting for you welcome to New York welcome to New York.
B
It'S the sound down, so I could sense that this. Remember when Taylor Swift said bodegas are your friends?
A
Well, remember when she was a tourism ambassador to New York? That's just a dream. That's a dream that I have.
B
I think they've got a new one here.
A
We should be.
B
I know. Wait, you guys. Who gets to pick that something massive might be happening so soon with me and Mary Beth? I'm not saying it's like we've met the final boss, but if this goes through and I can't stress enough, you'll know it when you see it. Yeah, it'll be early morning, but you'll know it when you see it.
A
You'll know it.
B
I need it to happen. It's consumed me.
A
So you're listening. I already know what I'd wear this flight.
B
So I'm listening to Lily Allen on this flight and when I get off, this woman is struggling to get a massive bag. And then I just pulled it and I was like, oh, is it yours? And she turns and she's like, no. And it's Lily Allen.
A
You didn't tell me.
B
And I had her. My headphones in listening to her and I went, I'm literally listening to your album. I didn't know what else to say, but I was just like.
A
She was at CFTA as well.
B
I was like, it's demonically good. And she was like, thank you, baby. And it was like I. She was so perfect. She's so beautiful.
A
I read her book.
B
So beautiful.
A
I read her book. Wonderful.
B
She's just in. Oh my God. I mean, she. What a. What an incredible album. But yeah, it was so strange. I just.
A
That's surreal.
B
And I said, New York, so many surprises await, don't they?
A
Yes.
B
Yes. Yes. Should we get into our rides?
A
Yes. This week I'm riding for a 25 year old mindset, but there's like more to it. It's a 25 year old mindset with the wisdom of a 34 year old.
B
Perfect title for a show.
A
We need a new longest title of an episode of all time. I think we're going to get it. This one.
B
Well, I thought constituents would be in there. I thought we were going to keep all that.
A
Well, I didn't.
B
Oh, I looked terrible.
A
No, I don't think so.
B
Holy.
A
I don't think so.
B
Oh my God. I. You know what? It's just. What's a bummer is that we could have kept pods to radio vibe.
A
I almost sneezed.
B
Don't. Whoa.
A
That was scary. What are you writing for?
B
I will be writing for it. Wait, this will be a really long one. The title of this one.
A
Yeah, I know, that's. So that was the joke.
B
Oh. For both of us. I thought it was just you.
A
Well, mine would be the longest, but. And we couldn't keep constituents. I think you meant counterparts. And a lot of people have offered that as a gift. Is that you meant that. And I think.
B
Of course I meant that. But here's the thing. Like you're going to see. You're going to see all of me. Like, I'm at my wits end here.
A
I want to know if other podcasts are as self referential as our podcast. We constantly talk about the fact that we're Doing a podcast.
B
I know. And also someone was like, callbacks. Which I didn't realize how much we do until I was writing a script and then I went callback. Callback. Like to write a second season of a show. Oh, my God. It's a fucking.
A
You're eating.
B
Everything's a callback. Oh, my God. So I will be writing for it, being in a gallery for 30 minutes.
A
Wait, where are we going?
B
Who cares? Ride.
A
This is so cool, because I finally get to talk about being sexually harassed at lacma.
B
Oh, good. Yes. Of course.
A
The first time I did a gallery in 30 minutes, I was running.
B
Do you want me to go or. You go, sister.
A
I think you should go first.
B
Thank you. Yeah. So I have a short attention span. Definitely. So you can probably figure out why being in a zoom for a long time is sometimes difficult for me. Sorry.
A
I'm watching the fuzz that you just took off your lip float away.
B
Yes.
A
It was airborne for a while.
B
Well, it was so excited. It got to be on my lips.
A
I said, and it almost landed back on your mouth. I just watched it.
B
But, yeah, well, of course.
A
But it didn't quite make it.
B
It's desperate. It's pathetic. I used to feel so much guilt. Like, I would if I was going to, like, a gallery or something, or I was at, like, a museum. I think, fuck. Okay. I gotta be here a long time.
A
Everyone here will judge.
B
It's a whole day. And I'm like, everyone will judge me. And so then it limited how many museums I was going to because I was like, well, it's a whole fucking day. I gotta. I gotta be in the Whitney for two hours.
A
I think that's instilled from school. Because if you went to a museum, that was the whole day. You were doing a field trip, and you were there the entire day.
B
Did they teach us anything we needed? So I. No. I love schools. I love teachers. The American education system is broken. Okay. So within museum culture. Yeah. I just thought it would be disrespectful. But then the more I thought about it, the more I'm like, but that means I'm not going. And then I was in Travel Privilege.
A
Paris when you stole from the Louvre.
B
Yes. Let me tell you, I wouldn't have. Those wouldn't have been the things I would have stolen. Let's just be totally honest. Like, what do you want? That's not what I'm stealing. No.
A
And we'll talk about offline, what you're stealing.
B
Oh, of course. Yeah. There's a. Yeah. I've got a few pieces I've got my eyes on. No, I would have robbed to the Picasso museum in Paris because it's so, it's small. And this is what kind of like alerted me to this because I thought, wait, I went with our friend. I knowa I had the best afternoon there. Or 30 minute afternoon. Because we got, literally, we went in, it was coffee time. It was like 11 go in, out at 11:45.
A
It's a stop along the way.
B
Went on a 30 minute walk. Well, I just forgot what the. What's the water called? The sen. Walk across the Seine and get a little lunch. And it's like that it. I did so much more for the rest of the day. But it was like this Picasso museum also. Like, come on, there are easier ways to tell me. You listen to ride. I said that to myself.
A
Problematic fave as well.
B
I just want a problematic fave. I know, I know, I know. And I'm sorry.
A
Hey, I'm sorry we brought that up. I'm sorry we put the unknown artist Picasso in front of so many new people.
B
I'm sorry to give a voice to Picasso. So, yes, I, I went into this museum and it was like, it just, it was a little trip and I just got like, I was a little inspired. It was beautiful to see the work. It was such a lovely way to spend some time with a bestie. We played the game, which I love playing, which is like, which one would you take home? Which I played at the Louvre. And then I did it. It was perfect. And so I've been really inspired because now being back in New York, so many museums, obviously, and I'm like, I'm gonna do that. So the other day I was just walking and I went into this random gallery and I just was in there for like 15 minutes and I did a lap and I loved it. And I took a photo of a few things and then I left. And no one's mad at me that I know of.
A
Right.
B
Obviously, if you go to the met, I think 30 minutes is gonna be tricky. You're probably gonna get just out of the lobby.
A
Right? But you're gonna get through the line in that time.
B
But I guess it's the sentiment of you don't have to be in there any longer than you want to be.
A
And you don't even have to see everything. You could do a floor here, a floor there. Like, I think it is also a difference between LA and New York, because I find that in LA I really can do one thing per day. Whereas in New York, I do about 12 to 15 things per day. So it's like if I'm going to the Whitney or the MoMA or whatever, I'm just like, I'm popping in, I'm doing a few laps of different areas and then I'm leaving. And I usually go to museums alone or galleries because I know that I'm going to move at a pace that other people are not comfortable with.
B
Exactly. And I feel judged by the people I'm coming with because I'm like, if. I guess if I don't read every plaque, they're going to think I'm an idiot.
A
Well, they're going to think you're unlearned.
B
They're going to think. I don't know what they're going to think.
A
You don't know how to say cerave.
B
Don't reference our ads too. They're going to just need to know all of it.
A
It's like, oh, yeah. As they should dive into the work, please.
B
Or don't. But yeah, I just. This is kind of my new thing. I think it's lovely. And I want to challenge everyone to go into museum and rip through it. Jog if you have to. Just. Just do what you have to do to get fed by the art. And there's no time limit on that. Right. I'm also saying, you know, do whatever you want. Be in there for five hours. But I do say this to people sometimes if I'm like, if you really want to dive into this museum in, like, the deepest way possible, you have to do that on your own.
A
Absolutely. And we're going to go to the planetarium at the Natural History Museum. There is a new exhibit voiced by Pedro Pascal.
B
Oh, I can't wait. I literally can't wait. Him talking about Galaxy, and I'm sitting next to Ms. Galaxy Brain.
A
Galaxy Brain. So one time I went to LACMA alone. I was just, like, having a day, you know, I was going to just, like, have a day of on my own.
B
LACMA is so beautiful.
A
It's so beautiful. And I. I was looking at this exhibit. I was having a great time. And then this guy with the French accent. Was he French? I don't know, but he had the accent. He came up to me and he was like, do you know the name of this artist? And I was like, oh. Like, I. Like, I had taken a photo of the name and I showed it to him, and then he started following me. And then he was asking me, like, what are you doing in la? And I Was like, oh, I'm here for work. I stupidly told him that I was a comedian. He asked my name. He pulls up my website. He's looking at my standup. He references this joke I have that I became a slut late in life because I never went to camp. So he's, like, watching my Comedy Central clusterfest set, like, at the museum, following me, by the way. And I'm, like, trying to lose him. Like, I'm walking fast. You know, I'm a fast walker. And he says, what is, like, slut late in life? And I was just like, what? And he was like. He, like, showed me. He was watching my. And I was like, oh, it's just, like, a joke that I have. And then he was literally following me. Like, there's one thing at LACMA that's, like, really big stuff, Steel, like, walls that you can go through. And he followed me through that. And eventually it was literally like, I actually, like. I just, like, left, walked out of the museum. He follows me to the street, and he's like, could I take you to dinner? And I was just like, no.
B
No.
A
So then I did do a Museum in 30 minutes because of a safety issue.
B
Yeah. So this isn't what I meant.
A
No. But I'm just saying. And I allowed myself. I said, I don't need to stay at this museum one minute longer. I can just leave anytime.
B
I feel no guilt about that.
A
No. And I felt no guilt, and I.
B
Left and just want you to be safe.
A
And I was safe. But it was something that. That is something that happen. Happened to me.
B
So every story a woman tells me, it's a fairy. It seems like it's a fairy tale.
A
Yesterday was a fairy tale.
B
Yeah.
A
And my life is a movie.
B
Last night was a movie.
A
Last night was a movie. I love this. I also love the idea that, like, when you go to a museum or a gallery on your own, you move at your own pace. Like, you could stay there all day if you want. You could have lunch in the cafe.
B
It's crazy to think that every piece of art would speak to me. So I stop for the things that do and I don't for the things that don't. And it's no hate to the art. I just. It's not for me. But, yeah. I also think what's really nice is if you go to a place that is really big, you go to this specific exhibit that's coming, you know, that's very special, too. I've done that with LACMA a few times. They had a really amazing McQueen exhibit in, like, 23. 20, 23. And then they had this amazing exhibit one time where it was Interscope Artists, and they had all these artists come in and repaint, like, covers of albums, like, do their artistic interpretation of album covers. That was explosive. Just things like that. And I saw that, and it. It took me, like, 30 minutes. And I could have felt guilty, but I said it. My dad jogs through museums, and I think this is who I got it for. I took him to the Academy Museum, and I kind of thought, like, okay, well, this one I might. You know, it's like, I'm going to stay for a bit. They've got the ruby red slippers and jaws here. Like, I'm going to lock in. Also, they had the. The painted backdrop from a Hitchcock film. Whoa. North by Northwest.
A
Yeah.
B
And I was like. I just. I was so excited. So we were literally there for, like, maybe 40. Like, we just completely ripped her. And I'm just like, I think this is just who we are.
A
And that's okay.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah. My parents took us to, like, Italy when I was a kid, and we went to so many museums. But that was back in the day when I. I think, like, I wasn't necessarily in a stroller, but I, like, could have, like, I could get away with being in a stroller on that trip. Just tells me.
B
Stroller, late in life.
A
Stroller, late in life. Pacifier. Late in life. I saw my blankies, as many people know. I mean, it's exhausting. It's an athletic pursuit, of course.
B
I mean, it's a lot of people. It's a lot of line waiting. I will say, talking about Italy, the Last Supper, is just so not where and what you think it is.
A
The painting. Where was it?
B
Well, yeah, it's. It's on a wall in a church.
A
Oh, yeah. I mean, they'll just do that.
B
Blew me away.
A
No, they'll just do that.
B
Do you know that it was bombed during World War II and that it stayed and the rest got destroyed? World War II, like, that me up so raw.
A
I think what's so interesting about World War II is that we all know so much top line. Yeah, it's a clip. We all know so much top line, but so much happened in Europe that we don't even know about. And I learned about, like, what happened in London because I was dating a British guy, but, like, they were literally bombing the city, and all these kids had to take the train out to the countryside without their parents and for, like, safety reasons.
B
That's the plot of lion the Witch and the Wardrobe.
A
Oh, I didn't know that.
B
Isn't that what I hope that's right. I believe that's.
A
If it's not. Lock your doors.
B
Yeah, they're sent out.
A
Lock your doors.
B
They're sent out of the city and then they stay in that castle. I'm very excited for the Greta Gerwig the reboot. The reboot.
A
Although I will say Timothee Chalamet, your Vogue cover. There's easier ways to say you listen to ride.
B
Exactly. And that you're very excited for a.
A
Special cover or a Netflix special called Galaxy Brain. Also, for that matter, I am touring. That will have been announced that I am touring all across this beautiful nation and Vancouver.
B
Are you touring after the writers room? Yeah, yeah.
A
It's in the new year 2026. Get your tickets.
B
I should be in the back room.
A
And the special taping sold out in like an hour and a half, so. Thank you, Bronies. We crashed the NYU website.
B
Thank you. Just thank you. It's a perfect hour of comedy. I'll watch an hour of comedy and do 30 minutes at a museum. At the world's most beautiful museums. No, I. This.
A
You're burping a lot.
B
No, someone needs to burp me. Do you understand?
A
Later. At Lucien. Yeah, later.
B
Thank you. I hope this is just one of those rides that just really inspires you. Sebastian Stan.
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B
Come take this Nutriful with me. Okay. Do you think they'll play any of these ads in our lifetime achievement award?
A
I was gonna say yes.
B
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A
So here's the love Zoc Doc. I mean we just can't say enough good things about it. I could flip this table.
B
What's up Doc? Whoa. Zoc Doc.
A
This is how much I love zocdoc. Yeah, A lot of people know that I floss every day and that's something that I'm really proud of. So I started flossing and things were getting caught. My floss was getting caught. I couldn't get it down there between two of my teeth. And I said I think something is rotten in Denmark. So I was in la. I wasn't with my usual family dentist. I had to go on Zoc Doc. I found a dentist, I went in, I needed a filling. I got it done.
B
It's easy.
A
It was literally so easy. And I couldn't have done it without Zoc do cuz my God. If you just google dentist Los Angeles it can be dizzying and you can.
B
Get in day of like for so.
A
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B
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A
I'm going to talk about having a 25 year old mindset with the wisdom of a 34 year old. Being 25 was a very tumultuous time for me. I had just gotten out of a long term relationship. I had just started doing comedy, I had completely blown up my life and I was like, I need to get out there and have experiences.
B
You did a hard reset.
A
I did a hard reset. And honey, obviously I've grown. I'm self actualized now, or at least I think I am, which I think you are. If you think you're self actualized. I think you are or something.
B
Yeah, you're like close. Ish.
A
I think I'm like 90%. Yeah.
B
I've got like 10 left. I'm excited.
A
So I just, I'm back out there. I'm, I'm out in these streets. I'm single, raw, raw. And I'm taking a lot of the experiences that I had when I was 25 and like some of them I'm really like, like letting go and falling into like going out with my best friend and getting drunk. I'm in a drinking era which I think will end on New Year's Day, but we'll see.
B
Oh yeah. Yeah, we'll see. It's like drinking while you're shooting a show is hard.
A
It's really hard. So I think right now I'm like, I'm going out, I'm socializing, I'm having.
B
Conversations, work in the table at cfda.
A
Oh honey, I had no choice. I had no choice. So I'm really putting myself out there in the way that I did when I was 25. But I now have, I have so much more like respect for myself and I know what I can handle and what I can't a lot better. When I was 25, I could just put up with a lot more and now I'm just not gonna do that. So it's like knowing your worth, knowing what your boundaries are, knowing your limits.
B
It's really incredible. I've been working with a therapist, which I haven't for a long time, not since randomly college. But you know what's so funny? When I was abroad in London, I went to this therapist because I was really trying to get Zoloft and it was a. To get randomly. And so I go and I'm like talking to this woman and then we talk for an hour and then she's like, come back tomorrow. Like, we should do another hour. So we do an hour. At the end, she looks at me and goes, you are gay.
A
That was your diagnosis.
B
I just went, so you're really gonna clock my teeth.
A
After our session, I went into my book of mental illnesses that they published, that the NHS publishes.
B
Well, she was in the Great British Library and she said, I have a book on this.
A
Oh, gay Homosexual.
B
Gay. Gay. Yeah. She didn't lie. And she. I mean, I should go back to her and see what she thinks now.
A
Go visit her.
B
Oh, I'll go see her.
A
25 is actually when I started therapy for the very first time was a 25.
B
Wow, 25. I was in New York, freshly out and putting on wigs. So I felt in that moment like there was something. There was. I had verve.
A
I was a lot more self destructive when I was 25. And I think what I'm doing now is like, it's self destructive light, you know, it's like I'm not doing anything that would cause permanent damage.
B
Exactly.
A
But I'm having fun and I'm trying to like let go a little bit, not feel like I need to be white knuckling every day.
B
Surrender.
A
This is our big surrender episode.
B
Oh, of course. We love a theme. We do love. I mean, oh my God, Season two. Such good themes. I'll stop. But new therapist. What. What was I going to say about her? What were we talking about?
A
I think like limits, boundaries.
B
Oh, yeah. I think working with a new therapist and trying to find like the kind of adult way of approaching some of these things with a youthful verve and being excited by them. And I feel like that feels so. It's strange, like to be constantly back in a college.
A
I know. I was actually thinking about that today because I have a lot of memories from college that are sort of these like stories that I repeat in my head over and over and over that are extremely traumatic and damaging. And I was like, do I need to do like ketamine therapy to let go of that? But I also think being in a show about college, it just naturally brings that stuff up to the surface.
B
Jake Samis was at my house and he knocked on the door. Cause we were gonna do like a. A fitting. And I was writing this scene in the first episode. I unknowingly was Sobbing at such a degree that it was like a little. Like, it was clinical kind of. And I was like, just a second. It like took me out of it because I did. I think I did feel very lucky that we get to do that. Because I'm like, this is so insane that this thing happened.
A
Well, we get to process what we're doing. Our grief through art, which is really a privilege.
B
The only thing I get scared of is acting it out again. Cause you just feel so sad. But then after, it's fun. You just have to make sure while you're coming out 50 times on camera, that you're also filming a Christina Aguilera dirty music video in the.
A
Simultaneously. Yeah.
B
And that's kind of the exact. That's the. That's the diagnosis on that one. Gay.
A
Gay.
B
Yeah.
A
The biggest difference between being 25 and now for me as far as, like, you know, how I'm moving through the world of dating is like, when I was 25, I would take crumbs. I would take the tiniest little crumbs and be fine with that and be. I'd be fed. I'm not taking crumbs anymore. I just can't. I just can't do it. I just don't.
B
It's.
A
I have such a full life in so many other ways. I'm like, I can't be getting crumbs. But what's really scary is right now, I don't have a crush on anyone.
B
I know. And I'm so. Sweetie, you deserve it. I want one for you so bad. Like, I'll do anything.
A
Yeah.
B
Gay guys aren't off the top.
A
And it's not like I'm not. It's not like I'm not out there.
B
Meeting people all fall for me. Just let it happen. Don't fight it anymore.
A
Fall to anyone that is. Fall, fall, fall in. Fall in love to anyone that is single that never expected that they would be ever again. Which is my situation. I know. Wait, though. Wait. I was in a four and a half year relationship that I thought we were gonna get married. And then my previous one also, I was like, this is it. So I never thought I would be doing these things. Izzy, I went to get an STD test recently.
B
This is you at the club right now with this. 25.
A
With my 25 year old energy, I'm like, why? I'm not connecting with these guys.
B
We got an STD test today.
A
Well, someone saw me say, I'm in my kissing era. All I really want to do right now is kiss. And he goes, challenge accepted. He made a fool of me.
B
Wait, that just kind of gave me goosebumps.
A
He made fool of me.
B
Oh, a fool. Do I know?
A
Yes. So then I did go get an STD test, which felt very 25.
B
Yeah.
A
I don't know about you, but I'm feeling 25. Because when you're 22, you just have sex without whatever and you don't get an STD test. But when you're 25, I think you are a little more aware of like all the risks. So you're like, well, I'm gonna go get tested. So to walk into City md, get an STD test. By the way, I'm walking by these people in masks going like, oh, you have Covid. I had sex.
B
You're like, so do you guys have anything for after you get fucked raw?
A
But the doctor was a Baroni.
B
Oh, good, that's.
A
Loved the pod. And she had seen me do improv with Josh Sharp and Aaron Jackson just weeks prior.
B
Perfect.
A
She's like, my friends, we all love the pod. I go hip out be damned. You can tell them that you don't have to tell them why I came in if you want. You can. But you can totally tell them that we met.
B
Yeah.
A
And I was like, I'm in good hands.
B
Oh, of course.
A
And clean bill of health.
B
That's how I felt with that.
A
Can I just say clean bill of health.
B
Well, the 25 year old mindset, I think I'm helping to contribute because what does a girly have in her 20 when she's 25? She has her Stanford.
A
Her Stanford blast.
B
You know what I mean?
A
Totally.
B
Come on now.
A
Come on now.
B
Yeah. Carrie's fully like the inner 30s or her Anthony horse or very Charlotte and Anthony. Oh, that's very us, actually, if I'm thinking about it. Yeah. I think there's something. There's verve, there's. Yeah, I'm wearing less than going out more.
A
There's also a level of hope. I think I have slightly less than I did at 25. Because you feel like when you're 25, you have all the time in the world. Not that I feel old or that my like, clock is ticking really, but for me it's just like there's potential that I will not meet someone.
B
Well, I'm not a woman, so I have hope.
A
Right. I'm in the acceptance phase of that, which is just like, maybe I'll. I'll just have this beautiful life in so many other ways. We'll see. We'll see. And I won't bring. I won't have to bring someone that drags me down to a dinner.
B
La vida, bonita La vida that's so.
A
Nice under the Tuscan sun.
B
Yeah. You know the thing. Yeah. See, on New Year's, me and you New Year's kiss. We'll see.
A
We'll see.
B
I heard you're in your kitchen era. Well, yeah, unfortunately, that would work on me. Like, that's not bad.
A
He didn't say that.
B
Oh, no. I thought he said that.
A
No, I'm poetic.
B
Oh, I. That's. This whole time I thought. And you didn't.
A
No, he didn't say it so explicitly, but I'm just saying that's what happened.
B
God, that sucks. I'm like. I got really excited. I'm like, okay, it sounds like the one that got away.
A
So that's my husband.
B
Yeah. I'm like, shit, girl. You should have locked it down. He's referencing the work.
A
Well, he definitely referenced the work, but I have this way of, like, making any situation kind of a painting. Do you know what I mean, sweetie?
B
We're building worlds. I know exactly what you mean. Are you kidding?
A
Yeah, but I.
B
What did I do for Grace in the first episode?
A
What did you do?
B
I painted worlds.
A
You painted a picture?
B
Yes.
A
I have been really creatively inspired lately, I will say that. And that's what really scares me. Can I just say, this scares me, and I might write a book about this. But my last relationship, until it completely blew up in my face. It was very stable, very quiet, very, very contained. And I didn't write anything during that relationship. My relationship with Edward, you know, very passionate, tumultuous, all that stuff. I was writing constantly. Now that I'm single, unfortunately, I am writing a lot. There's this fear. Katy Perry once said, the biggest lie we've been told as artists is that we need to be in pain to create. Unfortunately, I feel like I might be.
B
I agree.
A
We'll see. Maybe for some people, it's not a lie. I hope I'll find stability, but not, you know, monotony. But I'm taking these claws into, like, this is a. The point where I can really, like, pour my heart into my work.
B
But creation is like. I think it ebbs and flows. Like, at times, I feel like even if I'm, like, super happy like you, I can be super happy and have a ton of ideas and feel, like, relaxed and they come to me. But also, yeah, I can be. I would say now it's like, I feel very creatively. Inspired. Yeah. Certainly not out of, you know, a choice. Right. But you kind of just let it.
A
Creativity is sort of thrust upon us. I know, but I do think, yeah, we'll see what happens. I mean, what's so cool is that not only are we gonna see what happens, but we got an audience, and they are ready to dox people if they have to, or cheer them on. And I think that's really beautiful.
B
Who are they doxxing?
A
We're not sure yet. Well, actually, I have a list, but I'm not. I'm a magnanimous person, so I'm not. I'm not gonna say.
B
I know, but for me to have to live with that list. Just see them out.
A
It's the things they carried.
B
The things Benny Drama carried.
A
Yeah.
B
Have you ever thought about that?
A
I actually.
B
My therapist. Have you ever thought about that? She's like, I've never. First question. I go, did you watch overcompensating? She's like, no, and I won't. Now hurt me.
A
Whoa.
B
Hurt like a gunshot.
A
Oh. My therapist watched overcompensating. Asked me to send her the Seth Meyers link. Read my Grove Street Diet. She's like, I want to be tapped into the work.
B
Oh, interesting. Mine was like, I just kind of don't want to see any of it. She said, girl, I'm getting enough. Yeah, yeah.
A
She's like, I think I know what it's about. She did.
B
It was so funny. We were talking. She goes, I think I have a good sense of season two. And I. I just started. I was like, oh, my God. Yeah.
A
You know what she said? The library is open. $.
B
She did the same thing. She said, gay. Gay.
A
She opened the cdc. Mental illness.
B
It took a while. In a Rolodex.
A
Yay.
B
Gay.
A
You know what you are, Benny? Your words, not mine, babe, you're my ride or die. Ride or die should be gonna ride or die.
B
Oh, wait. Okay. Circling back on that woman that said, that's me. Do you know what's so crazy? Is, like, I think about it, and I was so in love with someone at the time. And I remember just, like, I definitely had, like, said all these things and kind of, like, left them their pronouns kind of out. It was kind of like a Frank Ocean song in a way. Like, it was just kind of.
A
And that Dear Media, like I just did.
B
You couldn't. You couldn't find your way around it if you tried. And I'm sure listening to it, she was sitting there, like, she said, what's his name? Say it. Say it. Yeah, I just. Oh my God. I wish I had that on camera. It'd be very helpful for the show. I wish I filmed more.
A
Yeah, you wish you felt your therapy session.
B
Yeah.
A
Though I ride for going to a Museum for 30 minutes, I think I'm with me. I'm always wait. But you know, I'm always on the move. I'm always on my way to my next thing. And I walk so fast. I walk so fast that like it is commented on by every single person I've ever walked with. It's never not commented on. Yeah. So I'm moving through the world at this fast pace and I'm going the wrong way a lot of the time. But when you're in a museum, there's kind of no wrong way. And I love that it's kind of the opposite of corn maze in that way.
B
Get lost and then after 30 minutes leave.
A
Find yourself.
B
Yeah, find yourself and go.
A
I look forward to going to the planetarium with you. I know the Museum of Natural History. And we go in there and we go. God, I have so many good memories.
B
Here from seeing I say what I miss, Moma PS1 and I'll stay longer than 30 there. It's some places I will. It's just like I just.
A
I don't want the option.
B
I want the option and I want no judgment. I, of course, ride for being 32 with a 25 year old mindset.
A
We're in this together.
B
Well, of course, sweetie. Aim for the bushes. What's that joke with the rock? And was it Kevin Hart at the beginning of that movie, the other guys.
A
The one where they die instantly?
B
Yeah. They say aim for the bushes when they jump off a building and.
A
But they die.
B
If that ain't us.
A
Yeah, if that ain't us.
B
I definitely feel more like risk taking and I think I marvel at your energy. I'm just, I'm such a two drink wonder though. I wonder if I ever. I too will get past that.
A
Oh, I'm loving two and a half drinks lately. Oh, two and a half drinks and.
B
Then I'm drinking water. It's like I'm doing the figure eight. I'm feeling, I'm feeling my body and it's. God, it feels good to be alive. I love like going out to dinners a lot and getting drank.
A
We're gonna go to so many dinners now that you live here.
B
So many dinners.
A
Like after this, for example, like we're.
B
Going to dinner tonight. Gotta get that, gotta get that, gotta get that, that, that that boom.
A
You know what's great about New York? We could go to dinner tonight. This isn't gonna happen, but we could go to dinner tonight, like, get buzzed and literally just go dancing if we wanted to.
B
I know. Can you actually do that? I said, I know, but you can. Oh. And I have danced twice. Twice since I've been in New York City. Well, I. I took a trip and.
A
Then more to come on that.
B
I took a trip and then I kind of.
A
More to come.
B
More to come. I. I really. I want to dance more. Come on, let's do this thing. London. I ride for it. Because I have a front seat to you doing it. And I think you're going to inspire me more. I don't know if I've totally tapped in yet. I've just been really hunkered down.
A
You just had to move across the.
B
Country, and I am moving across the country. Just a couple things going on, but I think he lives in me.
A
Yeah.
B
And I'm excited to meet him.
A
Me, too. Because I didn't know you when you were 25.
B
Oh, God. You. And I love.
A
I would. I guess I would have met you right after that.
B
Maybe you met me probably 26, 27.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
A
We're gonna.
B
We're gonna do it all so hard Things that we've been through Never falling.
A
But we only grew But I'm in.
B
Love at home with you because we've been friends Isn't that seven years?
A
And it feels brand new. I used to live inside a life with you I'm sure Charlie loves when we just completely bastardize her music on.
B
The pod, you know, I think she's used to it.
A
Hey, a shout out's a shout out.
B
When we first started being friends, I had this joke that I kept doing. It was similar to my Olsen bit where I would go, charlie, can you play pop2 start to finn? Can you sing pop2 start to finn? And then finally, it was just like. You know, it's probably not fun for her to hear that anymore.
A
Or is it?
B
But as I said, I'm friend first. I mean, I'm fan first. Come on. God's dead. Who? God.
A
Oh.
B
Oh, my Exit.
A
Benny, babe, Eyes on the road. Then you go. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.
Podcast: Ride with Benito Skinner & Mary Beth Barone
Episode: "25 Year Old Mindset + Being in a Gallery for 30 Minutes"
Date: November 12, 2025
Hosts: Benito Skinner (Benny Drama) & Mary Beth Barone
Network: Dear Media
This episode is classic “Ride”—chaotic, warm, and meandering in the best way—anchored around two core “rides”:
Timestamp: 00:44 – 04:00
The pair start earlier than usual (“4:59, right after dark”), joking about attendance and Mary Beth’s treat for Benito.
Dive straight into the mood of the “season,” describing it as “a time capsule” and confessing to the unique chaos of their collaboration.
Writers’ room chaos: Both have been working in a writers’ room all day, navigating their “fan” dynamic and the peculiarities of sharing creative space with friends.
Timestamp: 06:39 – 08:45
Timestamp: 08:47 – 12:58
Timestamp: 10:28 – 12:00
Timestamp: 12:00 – 15:10
Timestamp: 13:54 – 15:10
Timestamp: 27:35 – 36:00
Timestamp: 41:11 – 44:54
Mary Beth explains living with “a 25-year-old mindset with the wisdom of a 34-year-old.”
This means saying yes to adventure, socializing, and moments of recklessness, but with clear boundaries and self-respect.
Both hosts reflect on self-discovery, therapy milestones, growing through past relationships, and creating boundaries in their 30s.
Timestamp: 44:54 – 48:56
Timestamp: 50:12 – 51:37
Timestamp: Throughout
Benny and Mary Beth’s warmth, honesty, infectious humor, and acute self-awareness make for an episode that’s both deeply relatable and aspirational. The heart of the episode: it’s okay to seek adventure at any age, on your own terms, and it’s okay to move quickly—through galleries or chapters of life—as long as you do it with intention, presence, and a sense of fun.