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SCALE UP
Hosted by Jerry Hu · EN
SCALE UP is a bi-weekly video series of insightful conversations with senior HR leaders, founders and venture capitalists at Alibaba, TikTok, Amazon, Netflix, Google, Open AI, Sequoia Capital, A16Z… across the globe on topics around talent strategies, future of work, and how they get to where they are. I hope these conversations can democratize the access to information and inspire those going through similar challenges when scaling their growth companies.
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Dive Deeper into SCALE UP: Must-Listen Book Review Podcast!
Nov 18, 202400:47:09Tap to summarizeHi fellow subscribers,If SCALE UP has sparked your curiosity and inspired your growth journey, give a listen to this 🎙️ compelling review of the book, packed with deep insights, practical examples, and thoughtful discussions on the future of work in the era of AGI.In this podcast episode, you'll explore:✅ Key strategies from SCALE UP brought to life with real-world applications.✅ Fresh perspectives on adapting to transformative technologies like AGI.✅ Expert commentary on navigating the challenges of scaling up in today’s dynamic world.Tune in and take your scaling lessons to the next level! This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jerryhualibaba.substack.com/subscribe
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SCALE UP - Conversation with Anastasia Kuskova, Co-founder & CEO of Sirius
Mar 17, 202400:22:31Tap to summarizeHappy #iwd2024 to all your beautiful and brave women today!My special guest this week is another brave startup female founder, Anastasia Kuskova, Co-founder and CEO of Sirius, a groundbreaking startup dedicated to revolutionizing sustainability in the mining and metals industry using the power of #ai.From Moscow to Shanghai, and Geneva to her current home in Amsterdam, it hasn't been an easy ride both professionally and personally. Due to her Russian identity, despite graduating from a top-tier institution, Anastasia faced numerous rejections throughout job interviews. However, her unwavering perseverance led her to repeatedly challenge her own destiny, redefining her life. From strategic consulting to #worldeconomicforum , Anastasia rose through the ranks in world-class organizations, becoming one of the thought leaders in the #ESG space.In our conversation, Anastasia shares gripping anecdotes from her life stories, illustrating the journey of breaking barriers, defying odds, and relentlessly pursuing her aspirations. She also imparts invaluable leadership insights, particularly aimed at empowering female leaders in today's world."If no one is betting on you, bet on yourself!" Subscribe to the bi-weekly newsletter for detailed write-ups of the interview. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jerryhuscaleup/message This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jerryhualibaba.substack.com/subscribe
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SCALE UP - Conversation with Purnomo Kristanto, GM Indonesia @ The Trade Desk
Oct 13, 202300:28:41Tap to summarizeMy guest this week is Purnomo Kristanto, General Manager of Indonesia at The Trade Desk. Purnomo’s inspirational career path began from an engineering background, spanning across customer service, sales and general management, with a significant tenure at Google across APAC. Beneath the veneer of Purnomo's impressive career lies a story of perseverance and resilience. He graduated during a challenging economic downturn when engineering majors struggled to secure employment. To weather the storm and acquire new skills, he made the unconventional move of taking a cold-call sales position. This decision not only helped him survive the adverse economic climate but also enabled him to embark on a continuous learning journey.An influential figure in Purnomo's life is his late mother, whose guidance and invaluable life advice have been constant companions throughout his childhood and professional journey. These teachings have been seamlessly integrated into his management philosophy, shaping his leadership style and approach.In this interview, I delve deep into Purnomo's trajectory, exploring how he scaled both teams and himself from a humble beginning. We uncover the invaluable lessons he learned along the way, navigating through life's most challenging events and external environments. Most importantly, he offers practical advice to younger generations, particularly recent graduates, who are currently navigating a tough job market. This guidance comes at a time when many large companies are hesitant to hire fresh graduates. Purnomo's insights serve as a beacon of hope and direction for those seeking to thrive in these challenging times."Expect less, do more."Subscribe to the FREE newsletter for detailed write-ups of the interview. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jerryhuscaleup/message This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jerryhualibaba.substack.com/subscribe
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Bonus episode - Heartfelt, recruiter-to-recruiter advice on how to weather a downturn, with Aki Taha, Co-founder of TalentStories, ex-Talent Acquisition Director, APAC at Netflix
Oct 9, 202300:20:33Tap to summarizeMy guest this week is Aki Taha, co-founder of TalentStories, a media company dedicated to making us smarter about the radically changing world of work. TalentStories ships a weekly newsletter with over 1000 subscribers, as well as a must-listen podcast. And it advises leaders and organizations on how to attract, build and engage diverse, world-class teams.Aki is a fixture in the tech recruiting space with over 20 years of experience leading US and APAC recruiting efforts at renowned tech titans like Google, Uber and Netflix. He’s helped those companies cross the 5 to 1,000 and 1,000-10,000 employee marks in Asia, during some of their highest-growth phases. And has had the chance to work with leaders like Reed Hastings, Travis Kalanick, and Laszlo Bock.In this interview, we dive into Aki's intriguing personal journey – from his origins as a New Yorker to his experiences living and working across different parts of Asia, Africa, the Middle East and Latin America. He generously shared the secrets behind his success, and candidly discussed the obstacles he faced while scaling organizations – and himself. Last, Aki offers up sincere and invaluable advice for recruiters in this incredibly tough job market. As well as tips on how employers can prepare for the massive transformations that are already taking place at work. This is definitely a heartfelt episode you should not miss! All the more so if you’re a recruiter, or work in a talent function!“Heartfelt, recruiter-to-recruiter advice on how to weather a downturn -- and why the Talent function needs you!”--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jerryhuscaleup/message This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jerryhualibaba.substack.com/subscribe
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SCALE UP - Conversation with Daniel J West, Founder & CEO of Panalyt, ex-Head of HR, APAC @ Uber
Sep 22, 202300:18:03Tap to summarizeMy guest this week is Daniel J West, a legendary HR leader and startup founder, with a career spanning over 25 years across North America, Asia-Pacific and EMEA. Daniel has been part of the transformations and rapid scaling of some of the most renowned companies of our time, including Apple, Uber and Morgan Stanley. He has collaborated with industry icons such as Tim Cook and Travis Kalanick, successfully steering organizations through growth phases ranging from inception (0-1) to hyper-scaling (1-100, 100-1000) and pre-IPO (1,000 to IPO). Daniel's influence extends to mentoring high-performing teams and providing strategic guidance to esteemed startups turning into tech giants like Alibaba Group and Careem.In addition to his remarkable career journey, Daniel is the visionary founder of a groundbreaking people analytics company. Panalyt, his brainchild, offers an intuitive and comprehensive People Analytics solution that seamlessly integrates and analyzes dispersed people data and utilizing reliable people metrics to anticipate risks, inform strategy, and prepare for the future of work.In this insightful interview, we delve deep into Daniel's journey of scaling companies and explore the valuable lessons he's learned along the way. He generously shares his top advice for the HR leaders of the next generation, offering insights into the future of #AI and its pivotal role in shaping the field of people analytics. Finally, we uncover Daniel's secret ingredients for success and gain a personal glimpse into his life and career trajectory."The mentor-mentee relationship is a profound and enduring connection that requires consistent investment of time and effort."Subscribe to the bi-weekly newsletter for detailed write-ups!--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jerryhuscaleup/message This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jerryhualibaba.substack.com/subscribe
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Bonus Episode with Vanessa Lu - How to make a pivot?
Aug 16, 202300:15:25Tap to summarize#AI has brought us to a new era of work. Our definition of career path will no longer be linear and the employer-employee dynamics will shift from the industrial revolution influence to a whole new phase focusing on skills. Vanessa's incredible career trajectory from a news reporter to financial consultant (without any finance certificates) to Head of HR @ Google Taiwan, is a living proof that pivots can happen no matter the external environments or cultural limitations. And it's not just a privilege to a western society. So here are the top 3 secret ingredients Venessa concluded that can accelerate your pivot, 1️⃣ Don't be afraid to speak up and ask questions. There are no stupid questions. Only by asking for clarifications when we encounter the unknown, can we provoke that inner curiosity within us and others. 2️⃣ If you want something, ASK! The law of attraction works. Don't hide away your pursuits and cravings, let the universe hear. The energy of your thoughts manifest your experiences. And people or help will start to come when you start asking. 3️⃣ See challenges as opportunities. Pivots never comes easy. It takes an incredible amount of courage and effort to take that first step out of your comfort zone. And the way to show your career resilience is by continuously embracing and solving the hardest problems. You cannot win trust, you can only earn trust! Also subscribe to the bi-weekly newsletter for detailed write-ups!--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jerryhuscaleup/message This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jerryhualibaba.substack.com/subscribe
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Bonus Episode - Embrace layoff as an opportunity: Meet Cassandra Ong, Founder of OtterHalf, ex-Head of Marketing @ foodpanda and Chope
Aug 8, 202300:10:48Tap to summarize"Every problem is an opportunity in disguise." - John Adams. Like many others, Cass and her entire crew have also been impacted by the dreaded #layoffs2023 pandemic. Although disheartened by the sad news, Cass also saw an opportunity in this layoff market. “Tech startups still have to grow and keep expanding. However, their way of engaging marketing agencies will need to change fundamentally to adjust to the restricted budgets. This is where I see an opportunity, to be a true partner to the client through 𝐟𝐫𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐤𝐞𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐞𝐚𝐦. "Tune in to this episode where Cass shared the story behind OtterHalf. ( 🔊 Spoiler alert, the name is a witty wordplay and definitely has something to do with Otters as well) and her top tips for turning setbacks into stepping stones and starting a new venture. 1️⃣ Know your strength and do what you love. This way, people can naturally feel your passion and energy.2️⃣ Execution is key. Surely planning and testing your hypotheses are important when starting a business, but there are no perfect market research can 100% predict the best way to proceed, so my advice is to take that first step and start doing it.3️⃣ Money matters. Lastly, talk to as many people as you can to get an initial sense of the demand, product-market-fit of your idea. Then do a proper financial budgeting and forecasting to make sure you have taken calculated risks before venturing into entrepreneurship. Subscribe or follow to never miss an episode!--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jerryhuscaleup/message This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jerryhualibaba.substack.com/subscribe
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Bonus Episode with Eric Hudson - Layoff Job Search Tips
Jul 25, 202300:03:27Tap to summarizeLittle BONUS 🎁episode from the last interview with the #recruiting guru, Eric Hudson! Hopefully it can help those in the job search journey in this tough market.1️⃣ 𝐆𝐄𝐓 𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐯𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐆𝐄𝐓 𝐫𝐞𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐫𝐚𝐥𝐬! In an overwhelmed market like this, you need to get creative in your job search strategy. Getting referrals, buying your target connections coffee ☕ or drink, do whatever it takes to get a foot in the door. Whether this may lead to potential hiring manager or not, at least it’s better than just cold application. Which in time like this will usually get buried in the flood of resumes.2️⃣ 𝐒𝐄𝐋𝐋 𝐲𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐢𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐜𝐭 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐒𝐄𝐋𝐋 𝐲𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐮𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬! If you have been getting interviews and consistently not able to make it through. It’s also worthwhile to take a look at your interview skills and the cases and examples you have prepared. Are they reflecting the impact of your work? Or do you need to craft a better story? "𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝒃𝒆𝒔𝒕 𝒎𝒂𝒓𝒌𝒆𝒕𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒊𝒔 𝒋𝒖𝒔𝒕 𝒕𝒆𝒍𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒕𝒓𝒖𝒕𝒉." - 𝐒𝐭𝐞𝐯𝐞 𝐉𝐨𝐛𝐬3️⃣ 𝐍𝐄𝐕𝐄𝐑 𝐫𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐚𝐥 𝐲𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐬𝐚𝐥𝐚𝐫𝐲 𝐭𝐨 𝐚 𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐫𝐮𝐢𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐍𝐄𝐕𝐄𝐑 𝐚𝐜𝐜𝐞𝐩𝐭 𝐲𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐟𝐢𝐫𝐬𝐭 𝐨𝐟𝐟𝐞𝐫. Just because you are laid off doesn’t mean you need to be desperate. "𝑨 𝒎𝒂𝒈𝒊𝒄𝒊𝒂𝒏 𝒏𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒓 𝒓𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒂𝒍𝒔 𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒔𝒆𝒄𝒓𝒆𝒕." So don’t let the dreadful market stops you from any negotiation practice.Subscribe to never miss an episode of SCALE UP!--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jerryhuscaleup/message This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit jerryhualibaba.substack.com/subscribe
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