If the World Ended in 14 Days… Who Would You Choose? | Attachment, Self-Sabotage & Seeking a Friend | #118

Summary

Secondhand Therapy Podcast Summary

Episode: #118 – [Movie Night] If the World Ended in 14 Days… Who Would You Choose? | Attachment, Self-Sabotage & Seeking a Friend
Date: February 16, 2026
Hosts: Louie Paoletti (“Sinclair”) and Michael Malone
Podcast Theme: Two best friends with no therapy licenses unpack therapy, mental health, and life, blending humor, honesty, and personal reflection.

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Episode Overview

This episode introduces a new "Movie Night" format, where Louie and Michael each watch a film separately and then discuss it through a mental health lens. For the inaugural round, Louie picked Seeking a Friend for the End of the World (2012), starring Steve Carell and Keira Knightley. The hosts explore what the film teaches about coping, connection, attachment, and facing the end—reflecting on both the movie and their lives in heartfelt, funny, and self-aware ways.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Immediate Reactions to the Movie's Premise

• Opening Scene & Apocalypse Setup

  • The movie starts immediately with news of a meteor that will wipe out humanity in about 14 days, prompting Michael and Sinclair to contemplate:

    “Best opening ever. ...We just got there right away. I love that.” (Michael, 07:19)

• How Would You Spend Your Last 14 Days?

  • Debate: Would they party, self-medicate, seek connection, or stick to routine?

    • Michael wonders: “Would I fall into that [coping], or would I keep my morals, do you think?” (08:54)
    • Sinclair: “What they’re doing is coping. They're just coping with substances and sex.” (09:02)

  • Both agree they wouldn’t just keep going to work or the gym.

    • Michael: “I definitely wouldn’t keep going to the gym or going to my job.” (09:05)

2. Themes of Connection vs. Numbing Out

• Coping mechanisms (drug use, orgies, substance abuse) are seen in the film and discussed as avoidance of fear and death.

  • Sinclair: “Part of that connection is being afraid… and being afraid with somebody else and knowing it’s not going to be okay.” (19:09)

• Sinclair emphasizes the desire for connection in facing the end:

  “The thing I would want most would be to feel not alone. And I think the only way to do that is through connection.” (19:17)

3. Attachment Styles & Self-Sabotage

• Both discuss the film’s depiction of attachment and running from or towards love.
  • “There’s a moment where, I mean, his father even… I think his father even says it’s never too late… Redemptions, forgiveness, love, repair—it’s never too late.” (Michael, 14:23)
• Michael admits to struggling with letting people in and fearing being a burden:
  • “There is no place for me. I don’t have family.” (Michael, 21:15)
  • Sinclair points out self-sabotage: “You would want to be alone… It would just be the last fucking self-punishment you could do.” (31:45)

4. The Allure and the Cost of ‘Going it Alone’

• Sinclair asks whether Michael is more comfortable punishing himself by being alone than bothering others or risking another hurt.

  • “If I self-sabotage it, then I can control it. If I don’t, then I don’t get to control how or when or if I get hurt.” (Michael, 32:38)

• Michael openly questions his own patterns:

  “I don’t know why I’m attracted to that… Oh yeah I do. It’s control.” (32:28–32:38)

5. Prioritizing Family, Partners, or Wandering?

• Seeking a Friend... triggers reflection on who they’d spend the end with.

  • Michael: “Would you go off on your own? Could you?” (36:38)

  • Sinclair: “I wanna be with my girl and my dog… go see Yosemite… go see some pretty stuff and be scared together.” (16:42, 17:31)

  • They note the reality that people often want their “tribe” in the end, but the lines of connection (family, romance, chosen family) are complex.

    • “Even if she says... I have to end it with my family... That doesn’t mean I love her less. ...We’re gonna do it from two separate spaces. And that sucks. But it’s okay.” (Sinclair, 39:54–41:00)

6. Movie’s Moral: It’s (Almost) Never Too Late

• Both hosts feel the film’s most resonant message is about the possibility of change and connection, even at the very end.
  • Michael: “The main thing that I took away from this was the theme of, it’s not too late. It’s never too late for anything—redemption, forgiveness, love, for repair. It’s never too late.” (14:23)
  • Sinclair (on the pursuit of old flames or dreams): “I gotta give everybody a warning, this film will give you the urge to unblock your ex. You gotta fight through it, okay?” (13:34)

7. Self-Acceptance and New Perspectives

• Michael grapples explicitly with being “too lonely” for the movie’s message—reflecting real vulnerability:
  • Michael: “I think I’m way too lonely to watch this movie at this point… Like all of my close friends are booed up… There is no place for me. I don’t have family.” (20:01–21:17)
• Sinclair challenges Michael’s perception:
  • Sinclair: “I’m not seeking someone with a title of a blood relation. I’m seeking connection.” (34:16)

8. Vulnerability in Relationships

• Michael admits the struggle between fearing hurt and the need to risk connection:

  “They are probably out there… and whether they hurt me or not doesn’t matter. I need to be able to take the risk and see it through. And I’m not there yet.” (47:22)

• Sinclair’s closing wisdom:

  “Even if they hurt you, you’re gonna be okay. … People hurt each other, whether it’s on purpose or not. That’s just part of being human.” (47:36, 47:50)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Coping:
  • “Would I fall into that [orgies and drugs], or would I keep my morals, do you think?” (Michael, 08:54)
  • “What they’re doing is coping.” (Sinclair, 09:02)
• On Facing the End:
  • “The thing I really want most is connection.” (Sinclair, 18:56)
• On Unblocking Exes:
  • “I gotta give you... a warning. This film will give you the urge to unblock your ex. It’s gonna be real strong... and you gotta fight through it.” (Michael, 13:34)
• On Self-Sabotage:
  • “You turn little hurts into big hurts as a form of self-sabotage.” (Sinclair, 48:26)
• On the Film’s Message:
  • “The main thing that I took away... it’s not too late. It’s never too late for anything.” (Michael, 14:23)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 07:14 – Movie premise and opening discussed
• 08:30 – Theoretical apocalypse reactions: party, routine, or purpose?
• 09:42 – Substance use as coping; personal reactions
• 13:34 – The movie’s theme of unfinished business and exes
• 14:14 – Attachment styles and differing goals in end-times
• 19:09 – Fear, connection, and the need for vulnerability
• 21:15 – Michael’s struggles with loneliness and not belonging
• 31:45 – Discussion on self-punishment by choosing isolation
• 36:30–41:00 – Examining who to spend the “end” with: family, partners, or going solo
• 47:22–47:50 – Michael’s struggle to risk connection and Sinclair’s affirmation of vulnerability

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Conclusion: Reflections and Ratings

• The hosts find Seeking a Friend for the End of the World emotionally affecting, sparking deep personal reflection about how they relate to others, how they cope with fear, and what (and who) ultimately matters.
• Film Ratings: Michael gives it an 8/10, Sinclair goes a bit higher (“8.2, 8.3 maybe”).
  • “I love a Steve Carell doing some acting… Dan in Real Life is so incredible soundtrack, buddy.” (Sinclair, 50:42)
• The episode closes with honest, funny admissions about their real and imagined apocalypse plans (no wild steaks or cheesecake for Michael, maybe wandering for Sinclair).

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Summary Takeaway

Through this “movie night” mental health lens, Louie and Michael unpack modern existential dread, attachment, the complexity of relationships, and the hard work of vulnerability. Both the film and the episode urge listeners to reflect on how they spend their time, who they need most, and how to face connection—or aloneness—with honest, sometimes hard-earned self-acceptance.

Transcript

[Michael]

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[Sinclair]

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[Michael]

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[Sinclair]

Yeah, yeah, you had that one. That was not a good fit.

[Michael]

Not a good fit. Hey, and that happens. Finding good therapists is like, a lot like finding, you know, being out there in the dating world and finding the right partner for you.

[Sinclair]

And you're married now.

[Michael]

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[Sinclair]

You're in love now.

[Michael]

I have to talk about this with my therapist.

[Sinclair]

Dude, you're there. Can I meet this person? I don't even know their gender. Can I meet this person?

[Michael]

Absolutely not.

[Sinclair]

Let's do one together.

[Michael]

Well, we should sign up for couples therapy on BetterHelp.

[Sinclair]

I'll do it. You think I won't do it? You think I won't win couples therapy with you, dude? You think I'm not gonna walk out with the trophy?

[Michael]

I know you will.

[Sinclair]

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[Michael]

They are killing him.

[Sinclair]

I'm. Someone's going to die.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Going to eat a bullet. Now we have a different kind of episode that we're doing today. Before we get into that, need to remind you that we're not therapists. We're not experts. This is not a substitute for therapy, and this is not professional advice in any way. I don't know that that applies to what we are doing.

[Michael]

Here.

[Sinclair]

But still true. That's still true.

[Michael]

Still true.

[Sinclair]

All right. We'd love feedback on this one because we're trying something new and we really love the idea and we hope it's fun. So what we're doing is you're going to sign up for Patreon. Okay.

[Michael]

It's a brand new thing.

[Sinclair]

Let me. I'll tell you what the episode is for sure. We're doing our first stab at a movie night. And what that is is we each watched a film separately and then we're going to come here and discuss it and unpack it through a therapy mental health lens. Because sometimes we need a break talking about therapy. And I don't know, we figured as an audience, maybe you'd like a little taste of something different. Do. Hopefully now go to Patreon before I die of allergies. Okay.

[Michael]

So this week, ideally.

[Sinclair]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Go there this week where there's tons of stuff available on Patreon, including access to episodes early. You get them on Friday instead of Monday. You get access to a completely different podcast called the Other show that's non therapy related. You get merch discounts. We do live hangouts on there.

[Sinclair]

Spitting. He's spitting.

[Michael]

Hey, dog. We got. I mean, we got all kinds of things on there. And if you sign up, we got stickers, boy. We got in the mailbox. We got a little. A little card that we sign.

[Sinclair]

Sign my name on it.

[Michael]

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[Sinclair]

Maybe even a T shirt.

[Michael]

Oh, that's right.

[Sinclair]

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[Michael]

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[Sinclair]

It's $10,000 a month. If you could pay for the year up front. Be great.

[Michael]

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[Sinclair]

Yeah.

[Michael]

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[Sinclair]

Yeah.

[Michael]

I think this is going out.

[Sinclair]

I think let's go down on the 16th.

[Michael]

I think I have an announcement then.

[Sinclair]

You do. It's past Valentine's Day.

[Michael]

It is.

[Sinclair]

Well, play the music.

[Michael]

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[Sinclair]

He did.

[Michael]

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[Sinclair]

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[Michael]

And that's mine. And that's mine.

[Sinclair]

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[Michael]

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[Sinclair]

That's what he meant by signed copies, is he's gonna sign the copy of the book. You guys. I don't know if you. If you were tracking that, but yeah.

[Michael]

Head on over there.

[Sinclair]

And also if you do the pre order, you're gonna get your book a little early. We're gonna start shipping those out around St. Patrick's Day.

[Michael]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sinclair]

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[Michael]

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[Sinclair]

Yeah, that's enough.

[Michael]

Okay.

[Sinclair]

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[Michael]

Sinclair, we love you.

[Sinclair]

Oh, we didn't tell the movie, did we?

[Michael]

No.

[Sinclair]

Okay, so the movie. Hope you didn't skip the intro. We flipped a coin. I won. I got to pick first. It is Seeking a Friend for the End of the World from 2012, starring Steve Carell and Keira Knightley. Do you know your pick for the next time we do this?

[Michael]

Ah, no. Perfect.

[Sinclair]

All right, play the music. Let's talk about it. Hello, my little bear cubs.

[Michael]

And welcome back Secondhand Therapy.

[Sinclair]

And we know that the movie opens.

[Michael]

Best opening ever.

[Sinclair]

Steve Carell sitting in the car with his wife. On the radio, they hear the announcement that a meteor is headed toward Earth. It will wipe out all life on the planet. And I think it's like 21 days or something.

[Michael]

I think it's sooner than I think it's. I think it's 14 or something like that.

[Sinclair]

Okay. And Steve Carell's wife looks at him in horror and sprints away from the car. Yeah. And from there. This is where we're going to start talking. Steve Carell.

[Michael]

I just got. This is the best opening. Yeah. To a film. It was so short and to the point. It just like. We just got there right away. I love that. Yeah.

[Sinclair]

We're not doing film review.

[Michael]

I know, but I just love that about this thing.

[Sinclair]

Yeah. And then it's gonna go on and Steve Carell, for a little while just continues going to work. He's one of very few people who continue going to work, going to the gym. So what. What's your move, dude? You hear that? The world is going to end in 14 days. Yeah. Your wife clearly doesn't want to see you ever again.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

What are you doing? Let's say no wife. Let's just do us. Yeah.

[Michael]

That's the thing. Like, I was really. When Patton Oswald's character came on, I was like, is that who I would be in the Apocalypse? Like, he's just talking orgies and doing drugs. They're like, at this house party, and.

[Sinclair]

There'S like, yeah, Rob Cordry's there. He's just hammered.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

The sun is miserable. They're all. They're all just partying.

[Michael]

Yeah. And I'm like, would I fall into that, like. Or would I keep my morals, do you think?

[Sinclair]

Well, what they're doing is coping.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

They're just coping with substances and sex.

[Michael]

I definitely wouldn't keep going to the gym or going to my job.

[Sinclair]

Like, define keep.

[Michael]

I wouldn't start going to the gym or going to a job. You know what I mean? Like, what the fuck are you doing at that point? Like, I don't. Breaking the routine is.

[Sinclair]

Okay.

[Michael]

So I'm doing that.

[Sinclair]

Now when you say, would you start having sex with everybody or would you keep your morals? Now I'm confused.

[Michael]

I mean, like, you know, they're doing heroin in the living room and just eating and drinking whatever they want and whatever they want and, you know, again.

[Sinclair]

Where'S the meteor? You know?

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

So do you think you would go straight into coping, or would you. What do you think happens as.

[Michael]

As the movie went on, I found myself more relating to sad boy Steve. And I think I. I think I would be a blend of both of those. I think I would be on a mission of some kind of purpose. But also along the way, hey, what are we doing to see in the world?

[Sinclair]

Well, his. As he goes along, he meets Keira Knightley, who he learns is his neighbor, I think, from upstairs. She has a grip of his mail over the last year or two. And in that mail that she finally gives him, now that the world's ending and they met each other, is a letter from, of course, the one that got away from Steve Carell.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

And they decide to go find her now. On the way, they hitch a ride with a gentleman who paid a hitman.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Essentially assisted suicide. And I gotta tell you, don't hate it.

[Michael]

I was really struggling with. Do you end it before or do you. I think my fear of missing out wouldn't allow me to end it before. Cause I'd be like, well, what if it misses us and everything's fine?

[Sinclair]

Oh, the anti anxiety's coming out now.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

What if everything's okay?

[Michael]

I'm like, yeah, I'd be like, what if I fucking hire somebody, they kill me, and then we find out, oops, we got it wrong, and then I'm just dead. Oh, buddy. The ultimate fear of missing out.

[Sinclair]

I got bad news for you. Yeah, this sounds a heavy bit like narcissism. I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm sorry about that.

[Michael]

How? Because you don't want to miss out on life.

[Sinclair]

Because you. You think, yeah, it's not it. We're doing movie night.

[Michael]

No, I want to know. That's not narcissism. That's survival. I'm gonna kill myself. And then everything gets fixed and you're like, oh, fuck, I could have not done that. Yeah, that's not narcissism. That's survival.

[Sinclair]

That's. That's worried about.

[Michael]

How is that narcissism?

[Sinclair]

Because it's all about you.

[Michael]

We're taught. You asked if you're gonna hire an assassin.

[Sinclair]

I know.

[Michael]

We're not talking about how are you gonna fix the problem for humanity.

[Sinclair]

Okay, let me.

[Michael]

That's what we're talking about.

[Sinclair]

I know you're not hearing what I'. Okay, so last week when we were talking as well, we were talking about the universe. You know, something good happens and the universe takes it away.

[Michael]

Right.

[Sinclair]

Also, there's narcissism in there.

[Michael]

Sure.

[Sinclair]

So it's same ballpark. Okay. I kind of down with the assistance too. I get it.

[Michael]

I totally get it.

[Sinclair]

But yeah, I don't think I would do it either. And also the assassin, that's what they're doing, right. For as. Is it a hobby.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

What's the money for?

[Michael]

Where's the money?

[Sinclair]

Yeah, Yeah. I.

[Michael]

So you're seeing it all the way through.

[Sinclair]

Oh, yeah. Wow. Yeah.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

You too?

[Michael]

Yeah, I think I have to.

[Sinclair]

And what are you. What are you doing with these two weeks or three. Three weeks or whatever it is. I've been thinking about that.

[Michael]

Yeah. And I gotta. I gotta give you. I gotta give everybody a warning. This film will give you the urge to unblock your ex. It's gonna be a real stronger courage. And you gotta fight through it. Okay.

[Sinclair]

Yeah.

[Michael]

You gotta fight my boy. I can see the fight.

[Sinclair]

I can see that happening, buddy. Yeah.

[Michael]

This movie is all about, like, for me, it was so many themes going on. Right. There's different attachment styles, of course, between the two main characters. There's a lot of accountability happening in this film.

[Sinclair]

Also very different. Very different desires.

[Michael]

Yes.

[Sinclair]

Steve Carell is all about finding lost love. And Keira Knightley wants to do is find a way back to her family.

[Michael]

Yeah. Yeah. The main thing that I took away from this was the theme of, it's not too late. It's never too late for anything. Redemption, forgiveness, love for repair. It's never too late.

[Sinclair]

What about chasing your dream?

[Michael]

What do you mean?

[Sinclair]

I want to be a movie star.

[Michael]

It's never too late for that.

[Sinclair]

Get the out of here.

[Michael]

You could be a movie star at.

[Sinclair]

The end of the world.

[Michael]

I thought. Okay. No, not at the end of the world.

[Sinclair]

It can be too late.

[Michael]

I'm sorry. Okay.

[Sinclair]

Don't say. You do not say tism.

[Michael]

Oh, my God.

[Sinclair]

Do not say tism to me. Sure, go ahead. It's not too late.

[Michael]

It's not too late.

[Sinclair]

And then what?

[Michael]

Because there's a moment where, I mean, his father even. That's between him and his father. I think his father even says it's never too late.

[Sinclair]

Yeah.

[Michael]

And there's also sacrifice in this film. I mean, there's just so much going on. That man wrecked me. I didn't know it was gonna do that to me.

[Sinclair]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Like, the first. Probably the first half hour, it was like a slow burn for me. And I was like, all right. I'm kind of just, like, mosing my way through this film. And then, buddy, I can't stop thinking about it.

[Sinclair]

You're welcome.

[Michael]

I've just been like, what am I doing with my life? What do I need to be doing? Okay. My therapist and I talked about it today about, like. He talked about the movie about purpose.

[Sinclair]

I'm doing the Lord's work out here.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Yeah, that's for next week. Okay.

[Michael]

What about you? What do you got going on over there, man?

[Sinclair]

Will I go see my family? I'm not staying there, though.

[Michael]

Must be nice.

[Sinclair]

Whatever. Go see my family. I'm sure. I mean, truly, what I want to do is be with my girl and my dog and go see. I've never seen. Maybe.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Drive around. Go see Yosemite. Go. Like, also in the film, planes are grounded. They're not flying anybody anywhere.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Traffic's a nightmare in the cities. Everybody's running all that.

[Michael]

There's riots happening. I mean. Yeah, yeah.

[Sinclair]

We're the dumbest species ever.

[Michael]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Hey, it's ending. Let's throw a tantrum.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Yeah. So ideally, I would like to just be with my girl and.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Go see some pretty stuff and be scared together.

[Michael]

Are you doing hard drugs?

[Sinclair]

No.

[Michael]

You're not going out. Are you going out of your comfort zone a little bit in kind of like a wild way at all, or you just. You're keeping it close to the heart.

[Sinclair]

And if there's really anything I, like, really wanted to try, but I can't think of anything that falls into that.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

It was the thing I. One of the things I learned about myself watching. Because I had seen this before.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

And watching it again, I was. Because when you open in there at the house party and everybody's just up.

[Michael]

I get it.

[Sinclair]

Because even for someone like me who just processes a factual thing as, okay, the world's ending, what are you gonna do about it? Like, there, the amount of fear.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Of here's when you're gonna die, you have no clue what it's gonna feel like. That's terrifying. And I think for me, if I'm thinking about the moment I'm gonna die via this meteor, I think the thing I really want most is connection.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

And you can't do that if you're just numbing your entire self out to the fear. Part of that connection is being afraid.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

And being afraid with somebody else and knowing it's not going to be okay.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

It's gonna fucking suck. And I don't know. I think really the thing I would want most would be to feel not alone. And I think the only way to do that is through connection. Are you gonna cry right now?

[Michael]

No, I just. I'm. I think I'm way too lonely to watch this movie at this point.

[Sinclair]

Well, you already did, so let's hear.

[Michael]

Yeah. You know what I mean? I was just like. The whole time, I was like, oh, man, this is. Yeah. Yeah. I don't. I mean. Yeah. I don't know.

[Sinclair]

No, you do know. What? Don't know. Look over here. What?

[Michael]

It's just, you know, like, you know, when I'm thinking about it, in a tragedy like this.

[Sinclair]

You think, is it.

[Michael]

A tragedy, the world ending?

[Sinclair]

I mean, the rest of the universe gotta be celebrating. I would think they're just waiting for us to up the rest of it.

[Michael]

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't. I don't belong anywhere. That's. That's a hard thing to come around to after watching a quirky little movie. You know, you're like, oh, yeah. If this Were really happening. Like, all of my close friends are booed up. They got their own lives and things happening and their own priorities. So, like, that ain't happening. I'm not gonna like join them and be some kind of weird apocalypse third wheel or fifth wheel.

[Sinclair]

If they have family, what would people think?

[Michael]

Like, not about what people think. It's just like, what am I? Like, there is no place for me. I don't have family.

[Sinclair]

So what do you want to do?

[Michael]

I would. I would like to be with somebody.

[Sinclair]

That's kind of the point of the movie.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Her family's overseas. If you don't know Kira Knightley, she British. Steve Carell's wife ran away from him.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

And that's what they do. They form a connection.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

And they die together.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

That's the point of the movie.

[Michael]

Now, did I cry when he put her on that plane? And. Yeah, like.

[Sinclair]

So we'll give you another plot point. Are you taking maka yet? I. I am and.

[Michael]

It'S pretty cool. Yeah, I'm only on day three.

[Sinclair]

Yeah. Which one are you taking? You on the black. Yeah, I do the black too. I do the black and I do the tri blend.

[Michael]

Oh, you do too?

[Sinclair]

I do too. Okay, technically three, because the blend is a blend of three. Okay, well, so if you don't know about maca, it is a root native to Peru. It grows in three colors. Black, red, and yellow. Or yellow. Or yellow. Yellow or yellow. I take the black and I take the tri blend. My girl takes the red and you take the black.

[Michael]

I do.

[Sinclair]

Typically, yeah. Men take the black, women take the red and then you intersperse the tribalnd. But it has a lot of benefits. I've been taking it daily for a little over a year. I have noticed a lot mood, skin, hair, energy, if you heard testosterone, you know, libido. I've had a lot of improvements.

[Michael]

Yeah, all true.

[Sinclair]

And we get. Well, I get our. I get my maca. And I have been from a company called the maca team. They are the biggest supplier of genuine maca from Peru. The biggest supplier in America. And they are nice enough to partner with. Partner with us and give a discount code. If you want to try out maca, you can go to the makateam.com secondhand therapy and you can use code bear cub for 10 off.

[Michael]

Oh, fancy.

[Sinclair]

So yeah, if you want to try some maca, try it out, dudes. Try the black. Ladies, try the red or try the try, but at least go to the website, read about it, see if you Might want to do it. It's not pharmaceutical. It's all natural. I've been taking it for over a year. I like it. You're three days in, you're less annoying. So we did it.

[Michael]

We did it.

[Sinclair]

Themaka team.com secondhand therapy. Check it out.

[Michael]

Hey, if you're tired of hearing these ads, which I'm sure you are, you should head on over to Patreon. There are ad free episodes and early access to episodes. You could be hearing this a week early along with Exit along with access to a an entirely different podcast. Some would say a better one called the other shit show.

[Sinclair]

It is fun.

[Michael]

It's non therapy related.

[Sinclair]

It is fun.

[Michael]

Super fun. Plus you have, you have early access to my new podcast series, Happy Not Funny. And it's ad free episodes on that as well. Merch discounts. Also fun live show things where we interact with the audience.

[Sinclair]

Live streams is what he's trying to say.

[Michael]

We are not going on tour. Yeah, that's true. What did I say?

[Sinclair]

You said live shows.

[Michael]

Well, same, same. You know, it's like a live show. Nope, it's like a zoom.

[Sinclair]

Okay.

[Michael]

Anyways, you'll have access to us in a more intimate manner.

[Sinclair]

Intimate.

[Michael]

How about that?

[Sinclair]

Intimate. There's no end.

[Michael]

Yeah, like the candidate. Like the candies.

[Sinclair]

Intimate.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Also, if you sign up, you get a little treat.

[Michael]

Oh yeah.

[Sinclair]

So check out the different tiers. One of the tiers is just if you're just here for secondhand therapy, you want no ads, we'll send you a dope little sticker. And I'm going to be honest with you, a lot of time went into designing this sticker. Yeah, too much. You can argue too much. It's a dope sticker though. So if you sign up for that tier, we'll send you a sticker. The next tier, if you want the other podcast, if you want the bonus stuff from secondhand therapy, all the little extras, you get the sticker and we going to send you a signed print designed by yours truly. That took way too much time. Still way too much time. We'll sign it, we'll send it out to you. And then we have the top tier with the live streams. If you want to hang out with us a couple times a month, you get the sticker, the print and we'll send you a T shirt that we are not selling or getting anywhere else. So check out Patreon. If you sign up, you get some treats and it's a good way to support the podcast.

[Michael]

We'll see you over there.

[Sinclair]

Thanks. So Kieran Knightley's mission is to get to an airplane. All the commercial airplanes are grounded. Steve Carell just wants to get to this woman's house. And he tells her, I know a guy with a plane. If you get me to this house, I'll get you to a plane.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

As the movie goes, they obviously have some obstacles. They do get to this woman's house, Steve Carell decides. He writes her letter, puts it on the door and leaves it be. Yeah.

[Michael]

Can we pause? What a beautiful moment of realizing what's in front of you and what you've been chasing and not continuing to settle for what you're chasing. Go on.

[Sinclair]

Yeah. You would have forgot the girl was in the car.

[Michael]

Right.

[Sinclair]

There would have been a Malone shaped hole in the door and Karen Knightley would have. Where did he go? He leaves the thing on the door, gets back in the car. Karen Knightley goes, what? What? Is she home? And he goes, yeah, I think so. He goes, I don't want to talk about it. I'm gonna get you to the plane.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

And we learn that the plane belongs to Steve Carell's father.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Who he has not seen or spoken to in 25 years.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

And there's no resolution to their relationship. At the end of the world, he just basically spends some time with his dad, the three of them. And then. Small plot point. Cure nightly heavy sleeping disorder or something.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Impossible to wake up. So while she is asleep, they have a great last night together. While she is asleep, he puts her on an airplane and Steve Carell's dad takes off with her. He's gonna fly her home to her family.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

And then Steve Carell goes back to his apartment alone.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Yeah. That is a crazy, selfless thing to do.

[Michael]

Yeah. I think in both accounts. Right. Like leaving the letter and. And putting her on the plane.

[Sinclair]

I don't know that leaving the letter is selfless because then is. If she finds it, she's like, come say hi.

[Michael]

Yeah. I guess it's the. Not the. The. No interruption.

[Sinclair]

Yeah. Yeah. I could see that.

[Michael]

Yeah. When clearly she's reached out and been like, hey, I've been thinking about you. You're the one that got away. Love of my life. I think she says, yeah, you're the love life. Yeah. But even then, he doesn't disrupt.

[Sinclair]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

You're not putting her on the plane, huh?

[Michael]

Yeah, of course I am. Of course I am. Because. But for different reasons.

[Sinclair]

What's the reason?

[Michael]

Well, We already know the reason, and the reason is because she'll leave anyways and hurt me. So I gotta leave first. So put her on the plane and I'll get out of here. I'll go on and get out and get on out of here.

[Sinclair]

Yeah.

[Michael]

And. Yeah.

[Sinclair]

So how are you gonna not be alone at the end of the world then?

[Michael]

Yeah, that's. And hey. And there's the conundrum. Yeah. You know, so without the self sabotage. There's the pickle. There's the pickle. I'm in. My guy.

[Sinclair]

So any. Anyone who. Any type of philosophy person might say, do you actually not want to be alone at the end of the world?

[Michael]

I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Why would you want to be. Do you think.

[Michael]

It's easier.

[Sinclair]

Than.

[Michael]

It's easier than, you know, bothering someone?

[Sinclair]

Bothering them?

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

What's the. What's the bother? You're imposing on these people or this person. Open your eyes, though.

[Michael]

I don't want to. Just, you know, handling me.

[Sinclair]

Yeah. Because you're a lot.

[Michael]

Yup.

[Sinclair]

So I might say too much. Hey, I know one person that says that.

[Michael]

I've read the Yelp reviews.

[Sinclair]

I know you wrote them.

[Michael]

Yeah. Yeah, man.

[Sinclair]

Damn. Yeah, it's about. I think you would be. You would want to be alone. Yeah, you would. It would just be the last fucking self punishment you could do.

[Michael]

It really? Would that sound. You know, now that you're talking about it sounds pretty great. Why am I attracted to that?

[Sinclair]

Why?

[Michael]

Anyways.

[Sinclair]

Oh, it doesn't sound. You think it sounds great. I literally lab it labeled it self punishment and you said it does sound pretty great.

[Michael]

I know.

[Sinclair]

Whoops. Oopsie.

[Michael]

Oopsie.

[Sinclair]

I've said the wrong thing out loud.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Damn.

[Michael]

I don't. And here's the. I don't know why I'm attracted to that. Oh, yeah, I do. Yeah, I do. And it's control.

[Sinclair]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Yeah. If I self sabotage it, then I can control it. If I don't, then I don't get to control how or when I. Or if I get hurt.

[Sinclair]

Here's something I'm a little confused about. When I said my plan of essentially just wandering. Yeah.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Does. To you. Does that sound like I belong somewhere?

[Michael]

You have someone. You have people. You have. You have your girl, you have your dog. You have family. You have. You know, you already have it. You already have everything you need. Whether you wander or not, you've arrived. You know, I don't. Yeah, you've already. You found it, dude. You got it.

[Sinclair]

What did I find?

[Michael]

Connection and love and all those things.

[Sinclair]

Where Did I find it?

[Michael]

You have a person, and you have a little life you built with this person, and so you already have the connection and family and everything. You already have it.

[Sinclair]

When I talk about my family, does it sound like we're connected?

[Michael]

You're asking the wrong person because.

[Sinclair]

No, I'm asking you, the person who hears me talk about my family the most.

[Michael]

Yeah, it's family. That's what family is, man.

[Sinclair]

I'm not seeking someone with a title of a blood relation. I'm seeking connection. Yeah, that's the same.

[Michael]

That's not the same, but it's. The family's important, whether you get along or don't get along, and whether you make them a priority or not at the end of the world is different.

[Sinclair]

Well, let me drop a layer on it for you.

[Michael]

Okay.

[Sinclair]

I watched this movie with my girl.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

And.

[Michael]

And she was like, I'm out of here. I'm gonna go do Molly. Yeah.

[Sinclair]

No, she's done a lot of Molly. She knows what she's missing. Yeah. She's like, oh, I'm gonna go be with my family. Like, her and her sisters, super tight.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

And I said, damn, how do we say goodbye? Yeah. She's like, oh, you're gonna be there with me. And I was like, that's not what I'm doing. I was like, I want to be with you. And it's. It's. It was this weird thing.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

It was this weird realization. She's like, oh, I want to go. Like, I want to go be with my sisters. And I'm like, oh, I just want to be with you.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

And. And I'm also like, okay, your. S. Like, your sisters have kids. They have partners that, like. And I kind of think of that with my family as well.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Like, I would. I. I'm gonna go see my family. But my sister has a kid. She has a. Like, she wants to be with her little family.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

And my mom wants to be with her. Like, I want to see them, but they have people more important than me, and I have people more. I have somebody more important than them to me in my life. Yeah. And it was a weird thing of, like, would I just go be an accessory to my girl while she spends with her family? And I don't think I would.

[Michael]

You would go off on your own? Could you?

[Sinclair]

You're not invited.

[Michael]

I mean, what are you doing? I mean, hypothetically, what are you doing?

[Sinclair]

What are the coordinates? Just, like, what are the coordinates?

[Michael]

Where are you at? Do you want to go to the Habit?

[Sinclair]

Yeah. I think I would go wander.

[Michael]

But could you?

[Sinclair]

Well, what are you asking? Is it could I go die alone under the stars or could I leave my girl?

[Michael]

Could you leave your girl to go die under the stars, wander by yourself?

[Sinclair]

Yeah, honestly, I don't know. That would be hard.

[Michael]

I mean, the choice is either, like you said, be an accessory.

[Sinclair]

Well, we talked about it's even she, she came around, she's like, yeah, I don't know if that's where I'd want it to end. Yeah, I was like, yeah, I get it. But I mean, that's not the point. The point was like, yeah, the idea of if you're like Steve Crow and his wife, yeah. They're like, oh, this ain't it. But if me and my girl, if we're like, I love you so much. She's like, I have to end this with my family. And I'm like, I have to end this with you. Like with like, I want to be with you and yeah, I want to say goodbye to all our people, tell them we love them and I want to end the earth time being scared and comforting each other and. Because that's what we're going to be doing with your family anyway. Yeah, that's the reality of it. It's going to be me and you.

[Michael]

And.

[Sinclair]

Yeah, I'd like to do it under the star somewhere.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

But yeah, it's a weird thought though. Because even if. Are you tired of staring at your phone? Are you addicted to it?

[Michael]

Oh my God, are you? Yeah. Well, yeah, like everybody else. Sure.

[Sinclair]

Okay. All right, well, I got a new. Let me tell these people about my new phone.

[Michael]

Okay? Okay.

[Sinclair]

It's called the light phone.

[Michael]

Oh, I've heard about that.

[Sinclair]

The light. Yeah, you seem to use it. The light phone. Also known some people call it a dumb phone. Anyway, it's a smartphone, it has Internet, but the Internet will only get you navigation. There is no email, there is no social media, nothing like that. It does calls, it does texts, it does navigation, it has a calendar and a flashlight.

[Michael]

It's like having a BlackBerry again.

[Sinclair]

Kinda O. Yeah, I love that. It has a pretty cool camera too.

[Michael]

I'm not gonna lie.

[Sinclair]

Yeah, it's got a dope camera on it. It's got a camera, yeah. Anyway, they were nice enough, they sent us a little discount code if anybody wants to get on the light phone train with us. So there's a link in the episode description for the light phone. And then if you want to pre order the light phone three use code, secondhand therapy. All Lowercase. Try out a light phone. It's pretty great.

[Michael]

Stop your doom scrolling.

[Sinclair]

Stop your doom scrolling. Be more present in life. Link down below, Promo code. Secondhand therapy. All lowercase. Check out a light phone. Join us in the present world. Even if she says, I do have to, I have to end it with my family. And I'm like, hey, that's. That's just not what I want. That doesn't mean I don't. That means. Doesn't mean I love her less. That doesn't mean she loves me less. It means we still love each other a lot, and we're gonna do it from two separate spaces. And that sucks. But. Yeah, it's okay. It's okay. It's sad. It's really sad.

[Michael]

Yeah, but.

[Sinclair]

Truly, I mean, if. If that. If it did come to a hard line like that, and she's like, this is what I want, and I'm like, this is what I want. And we let each other have that, that's okay.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

It's sad, but it's okay. You don't like that? I think I'm reading.

[Michael]

No, I. No, I think it's very poetic. I was wondering if you could even.

[Sinclair]

They call me Louis Shakespeare.

[Michael]

Even if I'm wondering if you could actually tear yourself apart from Community, like, whether it's your family or her family. It's the end of the world. Everybody's panicking and loving and coming together. Are you gonna actually be able to leave those little tribes? Whether it's yours or hers?

[Sinclair]

Yeah, it's a. Yeah.

[Michael]

Because, I mean, the idea. Of course. Yeah. Like, me and her will go off, we'll do this, and it's like.

[Sinclair]

I think that's where autism comes in.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Yeah. Because I'm just gonna be like, we're dead in 12 hours.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

No matter what happens here, me, her, him, all of us dead.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

There's no regret. There will be zero regret in 12 hours and one minute. Zero regret. It's all. None of it matters.

[Michael]

That's 12 hours for them to be mad at me. I can't believe I left. What an.

[Sinclair]

They're gonna be mad at me for eternity.

[Michael]

They're going to. They're going to go to their graves being mad at me. That guy. Yeah. Couldn't hang out. End of the world. He couldn't make it.

[Sinclair]

Oh, my God. Yeah, that would be. Yeah, that's. It's very. It's a very interesting thought.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Like, yeah. Could I leave? Would I. If I did, would she be like, oh, that's really What I want. Or would she be like, this is really what I want?

[Michael]

Yeah. Wow.

[Sinclair]

I hope he gets what he wants out there in his truck with his dog, you know?

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Yeah. Leaving would be hard. It would be really hard. Do you think there's anything in you that tries to like make a bunker or something and see if you can get. Get through it?

[Michael]

Oh, God. Yeah. When they meet up with her ex and he's got like the whole like military base underneath. Not a military base, but like a bunker and some military dudes and arsenal and whatever.

[Sinclair]

I think it's 12 inch thick titanium walls.

[Michael]

Yeah. And he's like, we can survive for six months under here. Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Repopulate the earth. She's a top tier female. Hey.

[Michael]

Hey.

[Sinclair]

Yeah.

[Michael]

I'm starting to see why she didn't stick around. I don't know. I think curiosity might get me there.

[Sinclair]

Yeah.

[Michael]

I think I could be talked into it. I don't think it's going to be my own idea. I don't think it's going to be like, I have to figure out how to survive if somewhere along the way I run into people like that who are like, hey, this is what we're doing. I'd be like, well, you're gonna have.

[Sinclair]

To talk to them. Yeah. I don't know if you know that.

[Michael]

And maybe, hey, maybe in a, you know, I hang with them for a couple hours. I'm like, this ain't it. I don't want to survive. I gotta hang out. These fucking guys. Yeah. How bad do you have to be as a person if people are choosing the fucking end of the world over your bunker?

[Sinclair]

He's got to be a Republican.

[Michael]

He's chewing his mouth open.

[Sinclair]

Yeah.

[Michael]

I can't survive with this guy.

[Sinclair]

Yeah. What a weird thing.

[Michael]

Yeah, it. Yeah. We unpacked a lot in therapy about this stupid little film.

[Sinclair]

You want to do it now or you want to do it next week? If it's about the film, you should do it now.

[Michael]

Yeah, it was just bringing up again a lot of like, sorry, guys, I lied.

[Sinclair]

Movie nights over.

[Michael]

It was just. It was just bringing up a lot of, again, those thoughts of purpose. And I don't know, I think this movie was really motivating in those ways. Obi. And what are you doing? What are you doing with your life? You didn't, you didn't like that?

[Sinclair]

I just could not relate less to that.

[Michael]

Really.

[Sinclair]

Yeah. Oh, man, that movie gave me the ultimate. Oh, nothing matters. Yeah. I was like, oh, yeah, nothing matters. You went to productivity. Yeah. Jesus. Get him on the phone. Okay. So what are you doing, Michael?

[Michael]

I don't know, man. Wow. I don't know.

[Sinclair]

So when you say it brought up in that, what does that mean? Like, where did you go?

[Michael]

Just looking at again. What am I. What, what is my day to day? Like, what am I doing with my life?

[Sinclair]

Okay.

[Michael]

Because. Yeah, you, you know, you're like, your time is limited and so what are you doing? And. Yeah. And who are you doing it with and who do you want to spend time with? And these are some of the hardest questions for me to answer. What do I want to be doing? I don't know. Who do I want to be doing it with? Someone that's not going to hurt me.

[Sinclair]

Who's that?

[Michael]

I don't. And I don't know.

[Sinclair]

Is that a real person?

[Michael]

They're probably out there. Maybe.

[Sinclair]

Open your eyes when you say it.

[Michael]

They're probably out there.

[Sinclair]

Really?

[Michael]

But I. He. Okay, well, here. Okay, here's a better answer.

[Sinclair]

Hold on. Stutter one more time and then tell me. I want you to really convince me on this.

[Michael]

Such a cunt.

[Sinclair]

What?

[Michael]

They are probably out there. And whether they hurt me or not doesn't matter. I need to be able to take the risk and see it through. And I'm not there yet.

[Sinclair]

And.

[Michael]

And what?

[Sinclair]

Even if they hurt you, you're gonna be okay.

[Michael]

Yeah. That's what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't matter. Yeah. If they hurt me or not. Like that's okay. Yeah. Yeah. And.

[Sinclair]

And there's no one out there that's not going to hurt you. Because people hurt each other, whether it's on purpose or not. That's just part of being human.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

So where does one find a perfect person? Where do you get one? Let me know. Just the one person who's never gonna hurt you.

[Michael]

I don't. It's not. Isn't that. It's not little hurts. I'm worried about it. It's the big hurt. Yeah, man.

[Sinclair]

I want to call you out on that one.

[Michael]

Okay.

[Sinclair]

You turn little hurts into big hurts as a form of self sabotage. And we know that you putting my.

[Michael]

Business out there, I mean. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

[Sinclair]

So what are you worried about?

[Michael]

I don't know.

[Sinclair]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Bothering somebody. Yeah. Because if I bother them, then they're gonna hurt me and I don't want that. I don't get hurt.

[Sinclair]

But even if they just go, yeah, I think I need like an hour of space.

[Michael]

That's not. I'm. I'm.

[Sinclair]

And then you go, oh, my God, they Hate me. Oh, no, I'm.

[Michael]

I'm better than that now.

[Sinclair]

That's true.

[Michael]

Yeah. Yeah. Like I said, I think I was too lonely to watch this movie.

[Sinclair]

Yeah. All right, Next week, Survivor. Yeah. This is Cast Away. We're doing Castaway next week.

[Michael]

This movie just beat the out of me and I did not expect it.

[Sinclair]

Yeah, I remember. Yeah. Because again, one big reason we do these separately. He watches movies in 10 minute chunks.

[Michael]

I had a halfway point on this one and I ate some food and did some work and then I came back and finished it. Yes.

[Sinclair]

Well, you finished it the next day.

[Michael]

Oh, I did finish it the next day.

[Sinclair]

Yeah. I know.

[Michael]

Okay.

[Sinclair]

I had some food in it.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Few hours of unconscious. This fucking guy.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

As soon as I asked how much have you watched? You're like, it's a little slow. I was like, this fucking guy.

[Michael]

It was.

[Sinclair]

Turn it back on. Turn it back on. I promise you, you're gonna get there. All right. One out of ten. What'd you think of the movie?

[Michael]

I'm giving an eight.

[Sinclair]

It's pretty high. That's nice.

[Michael]

Yeah, I'm.

[Sinclair]

And Steve Carell is one of those ones. He's like an Adam Sandler for me that I love. A non comedy. Steve Carell.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

This Dan in real life.

[Michael]

Like, dude Dan in real life.

[Sinclair]

Dan in real life is so incredible soundtrack, buddy. Yeah. I love. I love a Steve Carell doing some acting.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Non comedic acting because he's a great comedic actor as well. Yeah, I think it's good. Might go 8, 8, 2, 83 maybe for me. I really like that movie. I love that film. So what's your ideal? You're in love. And she's also an orphan. And you guys can.

[Michael]

Two orphans.

[Sinclair]

You guys can go to Freddy's and get a burger and.

[Michael]

Yeah, I hit an orgy on the way home.

[Sinclair]

Would you eat one medium rare steak?

[Michael]

I know. Why would I. Why would I.

[Sinclair]

Day. The meteor's coming.

[Michael]

Maybe I don't want to spend my last few hours being uncomfortable. Why do you want me to be uncomfortable so much?

[Sinclair]

You exist. Uncomfortable. You're constantly uncomfortable.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Sinclair]

Cheesecake. You trying some cheesecake?

[Michael]

Maybe.

[Sinclair]

Oh, my God. You're gonna eat chicken and rice till you die. I heard you.

[Michael]

Until I die. God damn.

[Sinclair]

Damn it.

[Michael]

I'm going to starve at the end of the world. Nothing's going to be open.

[Sinclair]

Yeah. Yeah. You one guy. He didn't even make it.

[Michael]

He didn't. We had three days left.

[Sinclair]

45. What the emaciated.

[Michael]

Just jar of peanut butter next to me. I'm dead. Yeah, he ran out.

[Sinclair]

He. He didn't even eat it.

[Michael]

He.

[Sinclair]

It. You got to be kidding.

[Michael]

This guy.

[Sinclair]

And we know that. Jesus.

[Michael]

That's a bear.

[Sinclair]

It's not.