Introducing: The Big Fib

Summary

Podcast Summary: Six Minutes – Episode: Introducing: The Big Fib

Podcast Information:

• Title: Six Minutes
• Host/Author: GZM Shows
• Episode Title: Introducing: The Big Fib
• Release Date: April 1, 2025
• Description: Discover the most downloaded family audio drama in history. Eleven-year-old Holiday is pulled from the icy waters of Alaska with no memory of who she is or where she comes from. And when she begins to develop incredible abilities, she’ll soon learn she’s not alone in the world.
• Produced by: Gen-Z Media

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1. Introduction to the Episode

The episode kicks off with Deborah Goldstein—also known as Jess—animatedly discussing her reluctance to emerge from under a pile of blankets on April Fool's Day. She humorously declares, "I'm refusing to get out for my own safety" (00:04). Despite her initial hesitation, Deborah introduces a special installment of “The Big Fib,” GZM Shows' engaging and family-friendly game show podcast.

2. Overview of "The Big Fib" Game Show

Deborah Goldstein provides listeners with an overview of the game show's premise:

"In the Big Fib, kid contestants listen to adult experts and try to find out who's telling the truth and who's telling fibs." (03:01)

The show features children discerning truths from lies presented by two grown-ups—one genuine expert and one impostor—making it a unique blend of education and entertainment.

3. Meet the Hosts and Co-Hosts

Deborah introduces Lisa, the live-in studio audience robot whose name stands for "Live In Studio Audience." Lisa adds a layer of humor and technological flair to the show, engaging with Deborah and the audience with playful interactions, such as when she mistakenly reads Deborah's grocery list as podcast ads (27:17).

4. Contestant Introduction and Icebreaker

The episode introduces Tori, a 10-year-old contestant from Kingston, Ontario, who attends a German school in the United States. Tori warmly greets the hosts with a multilingual compliment for Lisa:

"Lisa's the best robot in the world." (07:38)

This segment establishes a friendly rapport between Tori and the hosts, setting the stage for the game.

5. The Big Fib Game: Two Truths and a Lie

Tori engages in the classic game of "Two Truths and a Lie," where she presents three statements:

1. "My favorite animal is a snow leopard."
2. "I've been to a national park."
3. "I have never traveled out of the U.S." (08:46)

Deborah and Lisa analyze Tori's statements, eventually identifying the third statement as the lie. Tori reveals:

"Lisa is correct. My favorite animal is not a snow leopard... Currently, my favorite animal is frogs." (10:06)

This exercise demonstrates the show's emphasis on critical thinking and discernment among young listeners.

6. Introducing the Experts: Cindy Oliveira and Noah Van Loen

The spotlight shifts to the main segment involving two adults: Cindy Oliveira, a professional golfer, and Noah Van Loen, the president of Interbay Golf Club in Seattle. Both introduce themselves, setting up their roles as either the truthful expert or the fibber.

7. In-Depth Expert Interviews and Q&A

Tori poses several questions to both experts, delving into their backgrounds and experiences in golf. Notable exchanges include:

• Tori: "What inspired you to start your job?" (14:05)

  • Noah: Discusses his passion for golf and its multifaceted challenges.

• Tori: "What is the funniest story you have from your job?" (14:30)

  • Noah: Shares a humorous incident involving a hole-in-one achieved by a bounced ball.
  • Cindy: Recounts a tournament disrupted by a squirrel crossing the green.

These anecdotes not only provide entertainment but also offer insights into the personalities of the experts.

8. Shorts on Fire Round

The "Shorts on Fire" segment tests the experts' knowledge with rapid-fire questions about golf. Tori asks Cindy and Noah a series of questions, some of which reveal discrepancies in Noah's responses, such as:

• Tori: "Which astronaut played golf on the moon in 1971?" (21:32)
  • Cindy: Correctly answers “Alan Shepard,” whereas Noah incorrectly states “Scott Kelly.”

This round is pivotal in exposing the fibber, leveraging Tori’s keen observation skills.

9. The Decision: Identifying the Fibber

After the intensive questioning, Tori deliberates and concludes that Noah Van Loen is the fibber, based on inconsistencies in his answers compared to Cindy's accurate responses:

"I think Noah is the fibber... there are a few things that Noah said that I don't think are 100% correct." (22:43)

10. Fact-Checking and Conclusion

The hosts reveal the truth behind the experts' claims:

• Noah is indeed the fibber, having provided incorrect information about golf and related trivia.
• Cindy is the genuine expert, offering accurate and insightful information about the sport.

Deborah elaborates on some factual misstatements, correcting listeners and providing educational value:

"On average, female golfers earn 1% of what male golfers earn, which is a sad, sad fact indeed." (24:58)

The episode wraps up with heartfelt thanks to the participants and listeners, reinforcing the show's commitment to truth and integrity.

11. Post-Game Interactions and Additional Content

The latter part of the transcript includes light-hearted interactions and additional promotional content. Lisa inadvertently shares Deborah's grocery list, leading to humorous exchanges and further showcasing the dynamic between human hosts and the robotic co-host.

Notable Quotes:

• Deborah: "No one can spot a liar better than a kid." (03:01)
• Tori: _"I have never traveled outside of the U.S. sadly, soon." _(10:42)
• Noah: "Golf fills all the boxes for me, and I love the sport." (14:05)
• Cindy: "Golf is a very solitary sport and it can get a little bit lonely." (13:43)
• Deborah: "Thank you, Lisa. And thank you, everyone. Happy April 1st." (28:44)

Conclusion:

"Introducing: The Big Fib" serves as an engaging kickoff to the series, blending fun gameplay with educational content. By involving young contestants in discerning truths from lies, the podcast fosters critical thinking and active listening skills. The episode successfully establishes the show's format, introduces key characters, and entertains listeners with its interactive and informative approach.

Listeners are encouraged to follow "The Big Fib" on Apple Podcasts or visit gzmshows.com for more episodes and opportunities to participate.

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Timestamp Reference Guide:

• 00:04 - Deborah's opening remarks
• 03:01 - Overview of "The Big Fib"
• 07:38 - Tori's compliment to Lisa
• 08:46 - Two Truths and a Lie game
• 10:06 - Tori reveals her lie
• 14:05 - Noah's inspiration for his job
• 14:30 - Experts share funny stories
• 21:32 - Question about astronaut playing golf on the moon
• 22:43 - Tori's decision on the fibber
• 24:58 - Fact-checking female golfers' earnings
• 28:44 - Closing remarks

Transcript

[Deborah Goldstein]

Hey, it's me, Jess.

[Cindy Oliveira]

What?

[Jess]

Sounds like I'm under a bunch of blankets. Well, that's because I am under a bunch of blankets. I'm in bed today and I'm refusing to get out for my own safety. Do you know when this episode drops? On April 1, otherwise known as April Fool's Day. And I for one, am not getting fooled, pranked, or punked today. No way. And if I stay under my blankets all day, then I'll be safe all day. Oh, but I really want to tell you all about this special episode of the big fib, JZM's super fun and funny game show podcast that we dropped in your feed today. Okay, I'll come out, but at least let me go into my podcast studio so I can record you a proper opening and I'll tell you all about Bucket of water on my head. Well, at least I didn't get. Oh, no.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Oh, no.

[Cindy Oliveira]

Gosh.

[Lisa]

Oh.

[Jess]

Oh, no. Well, happy April Fool's Day, I guess. Now enjoy this special episode of the Big Fib, where kid contestants listen to adult experts and try to find out who's telling the truth and who's telling fibs. Follow the Big Fib on Apple Podcasts and for more great shows, go to gzmshows.com and try not to get pranked today. Aw, jeez, I'm all wet. Where's my towel? Six Minutes is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Do you ever find yourself playing the budgeting game? Well, with the name your price tool from Progressive, you can find options that fit your budget and potentially lower your bills. Try [e-mail] Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates Price and coverage match limited by state law. Not available in all states.

[Noah Van Loen]

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[Lisa]

This podcast is brought to you with support from salt. Hi, I'm Lisa, the live in studio audience robot of the Big Fib. And have you tried salt? You want something to taste salty, just add salt. Go to the store for your salt today. Two people claim to know everything about something, but only one knows anything. President Roosevelt wore an anti gravity belt. Dinosaurs had two brains. Lucky kids live on Mars and go to school flying cars or at least they will one day. Believe me, I'm a historian, an astronaut, or drive a DeLorean. Would I lie? It's hard to say. The big fib.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Can he spot the lie?

[Lisa]

The big fip. Some pigs can fly.

[Noah Van Loen]

The big fit.

[Deborah Goldstein]

But if you ask me why can.

[Lisa]

You trust the answer? Ah, the big fifth from Teenac Newton Jersey. This is the big fib. And now, here's your host, Deborah Goldstein.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Welcome to the Big Fib, the game show where kids choose between the shot shaping follow through of pin high truth and the stiffly foozled backspin of sand trapped lies. I'm your host, Deborah Goldstein, and in the studio today is our sound effects robot, Lisa, whose name is an acronym that stands for live in studio audience.

[Lisa]

It's okay, Randy. You're going to be just fine.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Oh, Lisa, why are you carrying your Roomba?

[Lisa]

My sweet pet Roomba? Randy is under the weather, Deborah, and I'm not sure what's wrong with her, but she's just not zipping around the floor with the same kind of zest for life or for dust balls she usually does.

[Deborah Goldstein]

I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe she needs to be recharged for a little bit.

[Lisa]

I tried that, Deborah, but she's still really dragging. And every now and then, she starts coughing, too, See? Oh, there, there, Randy. Let me just pat you on the back and try to help clear that cough, okay? Oh, there you go.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Poor thing.

[Lisa]

I made an appointment with customer care after the show, so I. Oh, Brandy. Okay, buddy.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Oh, that sounds painful.

[Lisa]

Whoa, look at that.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Is that a.

[Lisa]

It's a Rice Krispie treat, Deborah. I was looking for that. It must have fallen off my lap while I was eating an entire pan of Rice Krispie treats. I bet you feel much better, Randy, don't you? I'll just put you back on the floor, buddy, and you can be on your way. Fly away, little Roomba. Fly and be free.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Wow. I'm so glad she's feeling better, but I do want to take this moment to tell anyone listening, please do not hit your Roomba on the back.

[Lisa]

Yeah, you need to leave that to the professionals. Like other robots. I am just so relieved. And now that Randy is doing her thing, I can do my thing. Which is what? What's my thing?

[Deborah Goldstein]

Deborah, how about playing a listener question?

[Lisa]

Can do Scooby Doo. Here we go.

[Tori]

My name is Hamza, and I live in Kingston, Ontario. I have a question for Lisa. Do you have a favorite video game? And what is it? And if you could jump into that video game.

[Lisa]

Why would you jump into a video game? Well, that's a great idea, Deborah. And it's a no brainer. Candy Crush, here I come.

[Deborah Goldstein]

And dare I ask why you would jump into Candy Crush?

[Lisa]

Yeah, a couple of reasons. Candy, candy and more candy. Obviously. Candy. Deborah.

[Deborah Goldstein]

I see. I see. Okay, okay. Well, if you had to choose another game to jump into that wasn't all about candy, what would it be?

[Lisa]

Not about candy. Why would they make a game like that? Okay, let me just think. Oh, yep. I jump into Cookie Clicker. Cookies.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Okay, fair enough. All right, then I think we can move on from virtual suites to the real life sweet pursuit of truth.

[Lisa]

Truth. I'd rather have candy and cookies.

[Deborah Goldstein]

All right, well, we're going to focus on reality for now, so can you please let everyone know how our game works?

[Lisa]

Sure, Randy. Put it down. Grab it. Yep.

[Hamza]

Good robot.

[Lisa]

All right. Sorry about that. Oh, yeah. Where were we? Oh, yeah. Every week we bring on two grownups. One is an expert, the other is a liar. It's the job of a human child to help us figure out who is who. Because we have this theory here that no one can spot a liar better than a kid. What are we lying about today? Deborah Goldstein.

[Deborah Goldstein]

We are lying about golf, a sport where the player uses clubs to hit a small ball into a series of holes in the fewest attempts possible. And we're going to learn all about golf along with our contestant today. Who might that be? Lisa.

[Lisa]

Our human child Contestant is a 10 year old who goes to German school here in the United States. Tori. Kris.

[Jess]

Wow.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Welcome, Tori. How are you?

[Tori]

I'm good, thank you.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Das is gut. Yeah, that's all I know. Do you know anything else in German that would be fun to say? Anything about robots or podcasts or golf?

[Tori]

Lisa. S den bassen. Roberta.

[Lisa]

Der welt anker.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Was that a nice thing? I hope it was a nice thing.

[Tori]

Yeah.

[Deborah Goldstein]

What was it?

[Tori]

Lisa's the best robot in the world.

[Lisa]

Oh, hey, Deborah. I found a new host.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Well, maybe Tori can host the German version of our show.

[Lisa]

That's a good idea.

[Deborah Goldstein]

I think that would be good. Awesome. And have you been to Germany, Tori?

[Tori]

No, I haven't.

[Deborah Goldstein]

You haven't? Not yet, anyway.

[Tori]

Not yet.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Very good. And do you enjoy German school?

[Tori]

Yeah. And I'd like to do a shout out to my teacher, fall vaxehout, and my class 5C at JSSV.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Excellent. Shout out, everybody. That was very nice of you.

[Lisa]

This has been a big fib. Shout out.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Shout out. I'm sure they appreciate it. That's super nice. Love it. Well, we do want to learn some more about you, Tori. But we're going to do it big fib style by playing our game, Two truths and a lie. So you, Tori, are going to tell us two truths and one lie, but we will not know which is which. And we will have to use our noggin, our brains, and also our hearts and our guts to try to figure out which is which. So, Tori, in no particular order, please tell us your two truths and one lie.

[Tori]

My favorite animal is a snow leopard. I've been to a national park, and I have never traveled out of the U.S. interesting.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Well played. Mixing up travel and animals. A good liar would always try to throw you off guard by mixing up topics and confusing you. I like it. What do you think, Lisa?

[Lisa]

All right, so somebody's playing 4D chess. And I appreciate it, Tori. So Tori told us earlier in the episode that she's never been to Germany. Right. So we're starting to think, hmm, maybe this thing about never traveling out of the United States is true.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Maybe.

[Lisa]

But I looked it up yesterday, and there are three other countries other than Germany. So she could have gone to one of those other three countries. She says she's been to a national park.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Yes, that's what she said.

[Lisa]

Well, that sounds true, because national parks, they're a real hoot. This last one is obviously the lie. My favorite animal is a snow leopard. There's no such thing as snow leopards. Leopards are animals. They're not made out of snow. So nice try. She's thinking of snowmen, which is not even an animal. Yeah, there's no such thing as a snow leopard, so it can't be her favorite anim. Therefore, I win the money.

[Deborah Goldstein]

I see. Well, I'm just gonna let that slide. Cause it's not worth explaining. So I'm gonna ask Tori which of those is actually your lie.

[Tori]

Lisa is correct. My favorite animal is not a snow leopard. They are, in fact, real. They used to be my favorite animal, but currently my favorite animals are frogs.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Frogs. What did the snow leopard do to you that it's not your favorite animal anymore?

[Lisa]

Well, what they did is not be real.

[Deborah Goldstein]

They are real.

[Tori]

It's not something that the snow leopards did. It's something that the frogs did.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Oh, what did they did?

[Tori]

They threatened me.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Oh, the frogs threatened you and said we'd better be your favorite animal?

[Tori]

No, not.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Not really. Very good. So the frog is your new favorite animal. You've never traveled outside of the US. That is true.

[Tori]

I have never traveled outside of the U.S. sadly, soon.

[Deborah Goldstein]

I'm sure it's coming. But you have been to a national park and just one. Which one was it? Was it awesome?

[Tori]

I don't actually completely remember all of it. I was like three or four at the time. But it was Crater Lake.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Beautiful. I bet it was beautif. There are photos. Yeah, I bet everyone took a lot of pictures. Beautiful. There are a lot of national parks, so you might not have been outside of the US yet, but not everybody in the US has been to a national park, so that's pretty cool. I hope you have much travel in your future as well. I think you will do very well in this game. Even though Lisa guessed your lie, it was for very peculiar reasons. So I think you still will be able to figure out who's lying based on how you delivered your lie. So on that note, we're going to be learning all about golf. Do you know much about golf, Tori?

[Tori]

I didn't before I learned that the topic was golf. Then I did a lot of research.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Oh, I see. Okay, we have a ringer here. Somebody who has been studying and researching golf. Well, let's let them do their best and see who is going to sound more like the golf expert. So can we welcome our golf experts with some welcome music, Lisa?

[Lisa]

Sure. One, two, a one, two, three, four. Come on in.

[Deborah Goldstein]

I like it. I like it. Short but effective. Our first expert is Cindy Oliveira. Cindy, please introduce yourself to Tori.

[Cindy Oliveira]

Hi, Tori. My name is Cindy and I'm a professional golfer.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Thank you, Cindy. Let's meet our second expert, Noah Van Loen. Noah P. Please introduce yourself to Tori.

[Hamza]

Hi, Tori. I'm Noah and I'm the president of Interbay Golf Club in Seattle, Washington.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Okay.

[Lisa]

Hot seatsy, hotsy, hotsy, hotsy, hot seat.

[Noah Van Loen]

Drop it like a top.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Tell us about the tune you've tapped in, Lisa.

[Lisa]

It's the toe tapping tune of Hot Seat time.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Yes, it's Hot Seat time. And that's when we put our experts on the hot seat while they answer Tori's questions. Lisa, whom should we put on the hot seat first?

[Lisa]

This is a real tough one, Deborah, because both these names are very fun to say. You could say, hello, I am Cindy Oliveira. Or you could say, hello, I am Noah Van Leeuwen. Let me just think. I'm gonna go with the first one so I can say, I am Cindy Oliveira.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Nice. I like it. Okay, Tori, what is your first question for Cindy Oliveira?

[Lisa]

Oliveira.

[Tori]

Tell me what you do every day and what Is your favorite part?

[Cindy Oliveira]

My days usually start with a workout, and I focus on flexibility and strength. And then I have breakfast and go and meet my coach, Brian, and he runs me through some drills and we work on any issues I've been having. In the afternoon, I'll play a practice round, or if it's a tournament week, I'll spend some time studying the course and strategizing any of the holes I'm a little bit more concerned about.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Very nice.

[Cindy Oliveira]

Oh, and my favorite part, anytime that I can play with my friends, because golf is a very solitary sport and it can get a little bit lonely. So any chance I get to share it with others, especially some of my golf friends that I don't get to see very often, I love to put in a practice round with them.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Thank you very much.

[Tori]

Noah, what inspired you to start your job?

[Hamza]

I've always been enthralled with the sport of golf. Like Cindy said, it is a solitary sport, but it is something that you get a chance to compete against, not just with the golf course and the weather conditions, but yourself as well. Your mental, your emotional, and your spiritual. It fills all the boxes for me, and I love the sport.

[Tori]

Now, I have a question for both of you. What is the funniest story you have from your job?

[Hamza]

I've been playing golf for a very long time. So since I was a kid, I've seen over 20 hole in ones. I've never made one myself, but my funniest story was that I saw a hole in one where my playing partner hit his ball onto the green. It hit somebody else's ball that was already on the green, and it bounced from there into the hole for a hole in one.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Oh, did it count?

[Hamza]

It does count.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Wow.

[Hamza]

The other person gets to put their ball back to where it was so they're not impacted by the shot. But yes, if it bounces off of anything, it goes in the hole. It's still a hole in one.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Interesting. Thank you very much. And that question is also for Cindy. Is that right, Tori?

[Tori]

Yes.

[Cindy Oliveira]

So I'm not sure if mine is quite as exciting as that. I've never heard of anything like that happening. But during one tournament, I think it was at Augusta, I had spent so long lining up a putt, it felt like it was forever. And as soon as I went in for the stroke, a squirrel darted right across the green, and it had been so dead quiet, and everybody burst out laughing and we had to reset the whole thing.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Those squirrels, I'm shaking my fist at them.

[Lisa]

I'm Gesturing for them to come over so I can hug them.

[Deborah Goldstein]

I know you like the squirrels. I know.

[Lisa]

Oh, come here, little babies.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Okay, Dory, back to you.

[Tori]

Could you both answer this question? What advice would you give a kid who wanted to do your job?

[Hamza]

My advice to to a kid who wants to get into this line of work is to start out and just remember that this is a game. It's fun, and you can't take it too seriously.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Oh, okay.

[Cindy Oliveira]

I absolutely agree with that. And I would also say that whenever you get the chance play with people who are better than you, it might hurt your ego a little bit at first. It might be a little bit tough. But you can learn so much just by observing more experienced players and people who have been around longer. Also, if you can get a part time job at a golf course. That was my very first job and I could play for free whenever I wanted. So I got lots of practice in.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Good advice. Very good.

[Tori]

I have one more question for you, Cindy. What is one thing people get wrong about golf?

[Cindy Oliveira]

I think a lot of people think that golf isn't very physically demanding because it can be seen as pretty slow paced and a lot of older people play golf. But it really does take a lot of physical conditioning and stamina, especially to play at a professional level.

[Tori]

One last question for Noah. What golf clubs do you recommend or use?

[Hamza]

Well, I think that's a very personal question. And what I mean by that is it is specific to every golfer. So a golfer with a certain swing speed or even height or ability would benefit from a different set of golf clubs than somebody else who might be just starting out. So I think that it is important to talk to somebody who knows the game of golf and can help you get fit for a set of clubs that really work for you.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Great questions, Tori. And I hope you picked up a few bits of information that might help you pick our fibber. But there's still time and another segment to go. Another round of questions and answers in our Shorts on fire section.

[Lisa]

This show is brought to you by Cucumbers. Lisa here from the Big Fib talking to you about cucumbers. Did you know that cats are scared of cucumbers? I heard if you place a cucumber behind a cat while it's eating, they totally freak out when they see it. I once saw it on YouTube. You can buy cucumbers at the store while you're out getting all that other stuff you actually want. Cucumbers. Great for humans but terrible for cats.

[Jess]

I was never really a runner the way I see running is a gift, especially when you have stage four cancer. I'm Ann. I'm running the Boston Marathon presented by bank of America. I run for Dana Farber Cancer Institute to give people like me a chance to thrive in life, even with cancer.

[Lisa]

Join bank of America in helping Anne's cause. Give if you can@b of a.com supportann what would you like the power to do?

[Jess]

References to charitable organizations is not an endorsement by bank of America Corporation. Copyright 2025. Um, I think I just won my taxes.

[Lisa]

Yeah, I just switched to H and.

[Jess]

R Block in about one minute.

[Deborah Goldstein]

All I had to do was drag.

[Jess]

And drop last year's return into HR H&R block and BAM. My information is automatically there so I.

[Lisa]

Don'T have to go digging around for all my old papers to switch.

[Jess]

Nope. Sounds like we just leveled up our tax game.

[Noah Van Loen]

Switching to H and R block is easy.

[Lisa]

Just drag and drop your last return. It's better with block. Support for this podcast is brought to you by Water Lisa, co host of the Big Fib, here to talk to you about water. Are you thirsty? Have you been eating salty foods? Try drinking water. Water available at the store. Zip Pizza.

[Deborah Goldstein]

It's time for the Shorts on Fire round, when our experts have to answer as many questions as they can before time runs out. Lisa will set a timer for our first expert and then Tori will ask questions until Lisa's timer sounds. Then Lisa resets the timer for our next expert to do the same. Experts, tee up for some fast swing answers. All right, Tori, we're going to start with Cindy. You could ask your Shorts on Fire questions now.

[Tori]

Why do golfers wear gloves?

[Cindy Oliveira]

For a better grip.

[Lisa]

Look cool.

[Tori]

King James II banned golf in 1457 because he wanted people to spend more time practicing. Which sport?

[Cindy Oliveira]

Jousting.

[Tori]

Which club do you use to hit a ball in a very high arc?

[Cindy Oliveira]

A five iron.

[Tori]

Who is the youngest player to qualify for the USGA Amateur Championship at the age of 10?

[Cindy Oliveira]

Michelle Wi West.

[Tori]

What is it called when you redo a bad shot without taking a penalty?

[Cindy Oliveira]

A mulligan.

[Lisa]

Oopsie.

[Deborah Goldstein]

No.

[Tori]

Which astronaut played golf on the moon in 1971?

[Cindy Oliveira]

Scott Kelly.

[Tori]

Hector Fib. Mary Queen of Scots was the first person to use the term caddy for her assistant.

[Cindy Oliveira]

False.

[Tori]

What country club is known as the birthplace of the birdie?

[Cindy Oliveira]

The Pine Valley Golf Club in New Jersey.

[Tori]

Golf was first included in the Olympics in what year?

[Cindy Oliveira]

1900.

[Tori]

On average, female golfers earn what percentage of what male golfers earn?

[Cindy Oliveira]

30%.

[Deborah Goldstein]

And that is time. All Right. Lisa, would you be so kind as to reset the timer?

[Lisa]

Timer? Timer. Yep. Timer is reset.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Fantastic. I thank you ever so much. All right, Tori, you can ask Noah your shorts on fire questions now.

[Tori]

How old is golf?

[Hamza]

Golf dates back for 600 years.

[Tori]

How much did the winner of the Players championship win in 2024?

[Hamza]

I don't know more than I did.

[Tori]

How far do golfers walk during an 18 hole game?

[Hamza]

Usually about 6 to 7 mil.

[Tori]

In the 1600s, what were golf balls called that were made out of leather and stuffed with feathers?

[Hamza]

They were called featheries.

[Tori]

How many dimples are on a golf ball?

[Hamza]

A lot. About three to 500.

[Lisa]

And they're so cute.

[Tori]

What do golfers yell to warn others of a flying ball?

[Hamza]

They yell 4.

[Tori]

Where in the United States can we find the Devil's Golf Course?

[Hamza]

I don't know. I've never played there.

[Tori]

Who was the youngest Masters champion ever?

[Hamza]

That's a great question. I don't know.

[Tori]

Fact or fib? A golf hole is four and a quarter inches wide because that was the size of the plumber's pipe used to make the hole.

[Hamza]

That actually is correct.

[Deborah Goldstein]

That is time.

[Lisa]

It's all the time.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Excellent. Asking pretty good answering experts. Very good. It's decision time. Tori must cut through any penalties and get a whiff of possible lies. What do you think, Tori? Who is our fibber?

[Tori]

I think Noah is the fibber.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Why do you think Noah is our fibber?

[Tori]

Mostly because everything that Cindy got is correct. And there are a few things that Noah said that I don't think are 100% correct.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Hey, paying close attention, I see. All right, well, let's find out if you are correct. Will the actual golf expert please, please say, I am the golf expert?

[Hamza]

I, Noah, am the golf expert.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Oh, no. But that is correct. Noah Van Loen is the president of the Interbay Golf Club in Seattle, Washington, and a member of the board of directors for Washington Golf. But we're gonna get to the bottom of all of these things, Tori, because there was some pretty good fibbing going on here, and that made it very difficult. I agree. So let's do some fact checking. Noah, without being too caddy, point out some of Cindy's subpar information.

[Hamza]

Well, to my knowledge, Scott Kelly was not the astronaut that hit the ball on the moon. That was Alan Shepard.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Correct.

[Hamza]

And if you want to hit a ball high with a high arc, you would use a wedge and not a five iron.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Okay, very good. Any other things?

[Hamza]

Well, it is also archery that the king was banning golf in favor for not jousting.

[Deborah Goldstein]

Right. He did that so that people could practice archery more and focus more on archery than golf. Very interesting. Very good. Well, Cindy, over to you. Can you please share with us the irony of your lies?

[Cindy Oliveira]

Sure. So Noah called out a lot of them. There was also the factor fib. Mary, Queen of Scots was the first person to use the term caddy. That is actually true.

[Deborah Goldstein]

That is true. That's right. Supposedly from the word cadet. Yes. Very good.

[Cindy Oliveira]

And the country club, that's the birthplace of the birdie. I also got that one wrong.

[Deborah Goldstein]

That's correct. The country club was the Atlantic City Country Club. So apparently, during A round in 1903, Abner, aka A.B. smith, launched a long approach shot, and it was really, really good. And the result caused one of the group's members in the group playing golf to exclaim that it was a bird of a shot. I guess that was a really positive thing to say at the time. And then it just still is. It still is, apparently.

[Lisa]

So, yeah, that's a bird of a shot.

[Deborah Goldstein]

But a little fact that I need to share, sadly, also, is that according to Sporting Intelligence, on average, female golfers earn 1% of what male golfers earn, which is a sad, sad fact indeed. And just for Noah's information, some of these trickier questions here. The winner of the players championship in 2024 won $4.5 million. That was Scottie Scheffler you passed on. Who was the youngest Masters champion ever? That would have been Tiger woods at 21 years old. And also, the Devil's Golf Course is actually not a golf course at all. There is a part of Death Valley national park that is called the Devil's Golf Course because only the devil could play golf on such rough links. Apparently, it's just a really harsh terrain made up of rock salt eroded by wind and rain into jagged spires. So it looks like the Devil's Golf Course. So, no, you wouldn't have played there, Noah. So it was a little bit of a trick question. Okay, so does that sort of clear things up for you, Tori? Yeah, it does. Now we see. But that was a tough one, though, I have to admit, I was with you there. So we had a whole lot of fun today. Thanks to our contestant, Tori, for putting the truth first. Thank you to our expert and liar, Noah and Cindy, and thanks to Lisa, our metal player. And of course, many thanks to our listeners tuning into the Big Fib, where any way you slice it, telling the truth is always the fair way to go.

[Lisa]

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What? Oh, you said to help promote the Big Fib, we needed to record podcast ads, so. I've been recording podcast ads all day.

[Deborah Goldstein]

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[Lisa]

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[Lisa]

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[Deborah Goldstein]

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[Lisa]

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