Is Revelation Happening Now? Jim Bakker’s Explosive Warning

Summary

SkyWatchTV Podcast Summary
Episode: Is Revelation Happening Now? Jim Bakker’s Explosive Warning
Date: June 7, 2026
Host: Joe Ardis Horn
Guests: Jim Bakker, Lori Bakker, Mondo de la Vega, Donna (SkyWatch contributor)

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Episode Overview

This episode of SkyWatchTV is both a heartfelt tribute and a gripping exploration of end-times prophecy. Host Joe Ardis Horn is joined by iconic Christian broadcaster Jim Bakker, his wife and ministry partner Lori Bakker, and co-host Mondo de la Vega. The conversation honors the legacy of Joe’s late father, Tom Horn, and moves into urgent discussions on Revelation, tribulation, and spiritual perseverance amid turbulent world events. The episode blends personal stories of faith, prophetic warnings, and uplifting messages about survival, legacy, and God’s providence.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tribute to Tom Horn and Broadcasting Legacy

• The episode begins with warmth and camaraderie, reflecting on Tom Horn’s influence on both SkyWatchTV and the broader world of Christian media.
• Jim Bakker credits Tom Horn’s uniqueness and prophetic insight, urging listeners to read Horn’s books, which he states are “for today” (02:00).
• Personal stories are shared about the Horn and Bakker families’ deep friendship and mutual respect. Jim Bakker talks about foundational innovations in Christian television, including his roles with the 700 Club and PTL Network (03:10–03:39).

Quote:
“He’s written stuff that nobody else wrote. And you better get some books of Tom Horn because they’re for today.”
— Jim Bakker (02:00)

2. Perseverance and Ministry Through Adversity

• Joe and guests recall acts of unseen charity carried out by Tom Horn and the Baker family, especially in supporting vulnerable mothers and ministries (04:00–05:00).
• Jim Bakker addresses his own recent struggles with health, candidly discussing near-fatal illness and his unexpected recovery, which he attributes to God’s intervention (08:47–09:03, 22:10–22:42).
• The theme “Only God” recurs as a recognition that survival and ministry continuation often come only through divine action, especially when all hope seems lost (24:19–24:26).

Quote:
“You’re here because why? Only God.”
— Joe Ardis Horn (24:19)

3. Living in the Days of Revelation

• The discussion pivots heavily to biblical prophecy and current events. Jim Bakker asserts that the world is now in the season described in Revelation, specifically referencing Revelation chapter 6 and the opening of the sixth seal—earthquakes, cosmic disturbances, and societal upheaval (11:26–12:32).
• Bakker warns against spiritual complacency and urges viewers not to “take the mark of the beast” as “lion demons” attempt to deceive and destroy (11:57).
• The group affirms the reality of tribulation as not just a future apocalypse, but as present pressure and adversity affecting families, ministries, nations, and individuals (16:02–16:35).

Quote:
“We are in the book of Revelation. Revelation, chapter 6… Right now the Revelation’s taking place. Don’t let anybody lie to you. Don’t take the mark of the beast.”
— Jim Bakker (11:26, condensed)

4. The Meaning of Tribulation

• Mondo de la Vega expounds on the biblical “tribulation” as a time of unprecedented “pressure,” making the point that virtually everyone is feeling it to some degree in current times (16:02–16:35).

Quote: "When you translate it to a time of pressure, I have not met anybody that is not going through a time of pressure like never before in their life."
— Mondo de la Vega (16:10)

5. The Promise of the Rapture and Ultimate Hope

• Jim Bakker shares his evolving understanding of the timing of the rapture as described in Revelation 7, reading the passages about the multitude saved from “great tribulation” (14:12–15:21).
• The conversation turns comforting and hopeful: despite suffering, Jesus promises that “God shall wipe away all their tears,” a scripture cherished by those enduring hardship (16:54–18:43).

Quote: “God loves you. He doesn’t want you to go through hell. There’s going to be a coming out, a taking up. Do you believe that?”
— Jim Bakker (15:11)

6. Jim Bakker’s Enduring Legacy

• Donna recounts a personal dream highlighting Jim Bakker’s legacy in Christian media, interpreting his life’s work as bearing much spiritual “fruit” (19:13–21:05).
• Lori Bakker testifies to Jim’s miraculous recovery and God’s faithfulness, declaring, “With God, all things are possible” (22:10–22:29).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Every man, every leader needs a Tom Horn in their life… a Proverbs 17:17 kind of friend.”
  — Mondo de la Vega (06:30–07:10)

• “People think I’m crazy because I preach Revelations. I’ve had people tell me not to preach it… If that scares people, you need to get right with Jesus.”
  — Jim Bakker (12:37–12:53)

• “I’ve never told anybody… Your dad wanted to build me a house here on your ranch. I’m not kidding you.”
  — Jim Bakker (08:36–08:47)

• “He almost waits for somebody to prognosticate… so that he can show up after the fact, so that you can say only God.”
  — Joe Ardis Horn (23:04–24:19)

• “You will know them by their fruit… Jim Baker truly will be remembered for pioneering in Christian televangelism…”
  — Donna (19:13–21:05)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 00:00–03:39: Introductions, tributes, and origins of Christian broadcasting
• 04:00–08:47: Stories of charity, legacy, and unseen good works
• 09:03–11:13: Jim Bakker’s comeback from illness, ministry struggle, and affirmation
• 11:13–12:53: Urgent warning—Are we living in Revelation?
• 13:16–15:10: Revelation 6–7 reading and rapture discussion
• 16:02–16:35: Mondo de la Vega on “tribulation” as universal pressure
• 17:58–18:43: The hope in Revelation—God wipes away every tear
• 19:13–21:05: Donna’s dream and Jim Bakker’s enduring legacy
• 22:10–22:42: Lori Bakker on God’s miracles and Jim’s recovery
• 23:04–24:26: “Only God” moments—ministry survival and revival

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Conclusion

This episode of SkyWatchTV serves as a moving testament to faith under fire, the importance of legacy, and the enduring relevance of biblical prophecy. Listeners are encouraged to take seriously the warning signs of the times and to find comfort in God’s promises—even as tribulation intensifies. Throughout, there is a recurrent call to gratitude for the trailblazers of faith and an exhortation to trust in God’s timing and restoration power.

“Keep your eyes on the prize, which is Jesus Christ.”
— Joe Ardis Horn (26:05)

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For those seeking both encouragement and a sober analysis of current events in light of biblical prophecy, this episode is a compelling listen.

Transcript

[A]

Today's guest is a true pioneer of Christian broadcasting. A legend who has spent more than six decades in television ministry. He helped lay the very foundation for the modern era of Christian media, bringing the gospel of Jesus Christ into millions of homes around the world. Through triumphs, trials and seasons of devastating difficulty, he has persevered. And through it all, his voice for the kingdom of God has stood the test of time. Language like few voices ever have. Hello, everybody, and welcome to Skywatch tv. I'm Joe Artis Horne. Today you are in for a serious treat. Our guests are absolutely legendary. Let me introduce who's here. He's an international speaker and the author of the best selling book My Crazy the Moments that Brought a Gangster to Grace. He's the co host of the Jim Baker show and the host of the Mondo Show. Please welcome Mondo de la Vega.

[B]

Yes, hello.

[A]

And she's the author of the bestselling book More Than I Could Ever Ask and co host of the Jim Bakker Show. Please welcome Lori Baker.

[C]

Yay.

[A]

Go Laurie.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And he's a pioneer of Christian television with over 60 years in ministry for President of the PTL Network and host of the Jim Bakker Show. Please welcome the one, the only, Mr. Jim Baker. Oh, my.

[D]

I think that's the greatest introduction I've ever had to Tom. Did I call you Tom? I don't mean to call you Tom, but your dad is the greatest prophet in the world.

[A]

Wow. You know, his books are coming back around like I text last night.

[D]

Can I say something, please? He's written stuff that nobody else wrote.

[A]

He did.

[D]

And you better get some books of Tom Horn because they're for today.

[A]

Yes, yes.

[D]

Do you get that?

[A]

I do.

[D]

And his wife's sitting right here and she's getting younger.

[A]

That's what you said in the green room. That's what Laurie said.

[C]

It's true.

[A]

For context. For people that don't know this, my family has enjoyed a dear friendship with the Baker families for 16, 17 years now. When we first moved to Missouri, got very close, my father used to go on the Jim Baker program before he passed away. Mondo, you might remember some of this. A lot of what you see here today in terms of the way that we produce TV here at Skywatch Television, actually, my father affectionately told Jim on his show that we stole from Jim Baker. You remember that?

[E]

This is a beautiful set.

[D]

I came here and I thought, wow, I feel like I'm in heaven.

[A]

I am not just playing wordcraft here or sharing platitudes. Jim really did Decades and decades and decades ago pave the way for a lot of broadcasters now that enjoy the way that we're able to reach the world with the gospel of Jesus Christ. Because you invented in large part the model that so many now have gone.

[D]

I started the 700 Club. Do you remember that?

[A]

So I don't want to date Jim, but can I tell a personal story?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I am five years old. This is roughly 1983. I am sitting on a magic carpet in my living room playing with a He man action figure. And guess who's on the television while my mom's doing laundry. It's Jim Baker.

[D]

I hosted the 700 Club for about seven years. I started it.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And God helped me to build the biggest networks in the world. PTL was the largest network. And evil people came and stole a billion dollars worth of ministry and land and everything. So I built again in Missouri.

[A]

What I will tell you is that our family, we feel like we know a lot about the Baker family heart. And a lot of that is something the world doesn't see because you guys are very private in your charitable work. And that's all I'm going to say. These people have done countless good for the kingdom that the world will never know. Taking mothers who have difficult situations with young children and helping them through the process of bringing those babies into the world where otherwise they might look at alternative ways of dealing with that unwanted life. What they've done for the kingdom of God. What you guys have done for our family in taking our authors and having us on. And a lot of the reasons my book Time Bomb went viral was because Jim and Laurie went through it and dog eared it and asked me questions.

[C]

It was my favorite book. I love it.

[A]

I remember.

[C]

Seriously, you taught me a lot.

[A]

Jim, I want to ask you if you have any memories of the time that you spent with my father away from the cameras talking about life.

[D]

Of course I would like to call him my best friend. But he's up in heaven, so I think he'd let me. But he would love you. I love him dearly. And he was so smart and heard from God. And that's why his books needed to be read. Don't stop publishing them.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Your dad was one of a kind. There's no other Tom Horn.

[C]

And you know, you are right, Joe. They would talk on the phone. I don't know if you would hear it or. And I didn't sit around and hear their conversations because you're busy around the house and all that. But they would Talk on the phone for hours. I mean, it was amazing. And, you know, just a true, true friend.

[D]

Jim, I'm thrilled to see how good you're doing.

[C]

And me, too.

[D]

This beautiful studio. This is Monda, my boy. He's been with me 30 years.

[A]

Yes, he has.

[D]

And he was in the drug world, the gang world. President Trump is killing your gang right now because they are the biggest drug smugglers, drug pushers in Los Angeles.

[E]

Absolutely. My gang made the news again today.

[D]

Yeah, they did.

[E]

It's out in the news. And God has been good to me. But I think we have a lot to say about what's happening in the gang culture. Rebellion. Speaking loud in our culture today, we have to pay attention. But it reminds me of the conversations that we had with Dr. Tom Horn in the green room. Privately.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

And I got to tell you, every man, every leader needs a Tom Horn in their life. The advice that I heard privately, to tell you, to help you, no matter how old you are, no matter how successful you are, you need a Tom Horn in your life. And Dr. Tom Horn, we'll call dad, we'll call you and give you advice, and you can confide in him information that other people would never understand.

[C]

Right.

[E]

To be a friend. I think I said it last time I was here, that your dad was a Proverbs 17. 17 kind of friend to you. A friend loveth at all times, and a brother is born for adversity.

[A]

Wow.

[E]

That's Dr. Tom Horne. That will always be Dr. Tom Horn. That will be Skywatch TV for the world. And the times that you spent with Dr. Tom Horne. I kept my mouth quiet and I listened to the advice that Dr. Tom Horn gave you, but you also gave him. And back and forth, a friendship was birthed. That was so unique. Listen, a lot of people will come into your life with an agenda and they want to steal from you.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Dr. Tom Horne will come in and he will give, make himself available. And I knew that man was different when he walked in. And he gave more than what he took.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

And I want to tell you something. We were talking about him today. A man that loved deeply. A man that loved you deeply. A man that forgave deeply.

[D]

But someday I want to come on this show and tell you the truth of stuff your dad wanted to do for me. It'll shock you. You'll probably get mad.

[A]

But I know that my father was always charitable. And actually, I'll be very honest with you, very transparent. And I've talked about this on tv. But after he passed away. And I had to take over some of the affairs that he was dealing with. I found a bunch of discovery where charitable things were being done that he didn't even want his own kids to be worried about. Things that he was doing to help families.

[D]

Can I say this?

[A]

Building ministries for Kingdom workers.

[D]

Can I say something?

[A]

Absolutely.

[D]

I've never told anybody.

[A]

Sure.

[D]

Lori knows, but nobody else. Your dad wanted to build me a house here on your ranch. I'm not kidding you.

[A]

That sounds like me to be.

[D]

I'm going through a rough time now. I've been in bed for years, and this woman's been taking care of me. Johnny.

[C]

Been my aunt.

[D]

I'm now the president of pgl. I'm back on television every day. That's good news, Jim.

[A]

We were very worried a couple of years ago, and then again about a year ago that it could be getting close to the time. And the other day, the reason this interview is happening is about a week ago, I see Jim back on tv. He looks better than the old days. He's preaching right out of the word of God. Totally like a prophet. And I said, now I'm talking like a claymation from a cartoon. I text Mondo. We were gonna do this with Jim a few years ago.

[C]

Yeah, we were. I remember.

[A]

And Health started taking his.

[D]

I'm so honored to be here that you talk like you're happy to have me, but I'm more happy than you are. I'm happy to be anywhere, but I'm happy to be on this show. Listen, if I have middle name, it's television. God called me to do television. And that's one of the rare people under. And Joe, I think God's called you.

[A]

Oh, thank you, Jim.

[C]

You're excellent.

[A]

Wow. Thank you.

[D]

I want to ask you something. Has any of your kids or grandkids cause you trouble? Have they ever been wild?

[C]

You don't have to raise your hand.

[D]

You can raise your hand because I want to pray for you. Because everybody's families are going through hell.

[C]

Yep, they are.

[D]

And God wants to heal the people. He's promised to save our family. Isn't that right, Donna?

[B]

Yes, sir. Absolutely.

[D]

Oh, my. You know what? I have such peace with God. I'm just. I'm very old and I've been in bed for years. But I'm up, I'm out. I'm back on television, and I'm so excited and feel good, and I believe God's gonna take care of me. And my ministry's almost collapsed, but it's gonna build we're building back. It already started. God's going to help us.

[C]

Yep.

[D]

Do you believe that?

[A]

I saw you on video just days ago, and I said to my wife, I said, jim Bakker is like. What do they call him? The Comeback Kid.

[D]

Yeah, that's what.

[A]

How many lives does Jim Baker have? He's back again.

[C]

I'm not good.

[A]

He looked good, man. He was preaching out of his Bible. And here I am talking like a clay nation again. Jim, what's on your mind now? Because we're living in prophetic times.

[D]

I want to ask you a favor.

[A]

Okay. We're on tv, but go ahead. I don't think I can say no.

[D]

If I. I have a word that God gave me for this show. I would like to share it.

[A]

Please. Please.

[D]

I would like people to know what's going on in the world right now. We are in the book of revelation. Revelation, chapter 6. I will start reading with verse 12. And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and lo, there was a great earthquake. Do you know we have more earthquakes now than ever before? Right now the Revelation's taking place. Joel, don't let anybody lie to you. Don't take the mark of the beast. There are lion demons in the world.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

And they're trying to destroy America. It's trying to kill our president. We better stand with America and pray for America and stay with each other and help Christians television and stand there. We need it now, Joe, more than ever. All right. And I beheld and he had opened the sixth seal, and lo, there was a great earthquake. And the sun become black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood. Just a few chapters in. We're in this time already.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Do you believe, Joe?

[A]

I do. It's why Skywatch TV is here.

[D]

We're in Revelation days right now. People think I'm crazy because I preach Revelations. I've had people tell me not to preach it. I had a preacher the other day tell me not to preach about Jesus coming because it scared people.

[C]

What? Wow. Wow.

[D]

If that scares people, you need to get right with Jesus. That's all. Yeah. And the stars of heaven fell into the earth even as a fig tree casteth its untimely figs, when it is shaken with wind and the heavens departed as a scroll when it is rolled together and every mountain and island was moved out of their place. We're in the book of Revelation. Do you people know that?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Say amen. That's in the beginning of chapter six. And the kings of the earth and the great men and mighty men and bond men and free men hid themselves in the dens and the rocks of the mountains. I'll come back someday and talk about all these places in caves. There's thousands of them.

[C]

Yep.

[D]

There's room for millions of people underground. Did you know that? Oh, you know everything, don't you?

[C]

Well, it's just.

[D]

Of course, you had a great dad. Right?

[A]

I work with Derek Gilbert and Sharon Gilbert, so, yeah, I know a lot of stuff.

[D]

And they're in the audience right now, Darren.

[A]

They are. Derek and Sharon Gilbert are here.

[C]

I love you guys. I love you.

[D]

I call them my best friends because they're great on the show.

[A]

By the way, he said that in the agreement. He said, derek and Sharon are my best friends.

[D]

And you have them all the time on this show.

[C]

We do.

[D]

Fortunate privilege. They're gems for you, Joel.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

For the day of his wrath is come. And who shall be able to stand it? We're living in the Revelation days. Do you understand? Do you believe that? Raise your hand if you believe it. A couple do after this. I beheld a great multitude which no man could number. Is that big? Yes. Of all nations and all kindreds and people and tongues stood before the throne. I want you to help me with this because I found this out this week. Really? Just to get in my heart that before Revelation is true. Right. Here it is in verse seven. I've been thinking the Rapture is going to take place at the end of Revelations. But I see this is a rapture. This is more people than the equilibrium even.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

So I want to go out with this bunch. I don't want to go through all this mess that's coming on Earth. Have you ever read Revelation?

[C]

Yes.

[D]

God loves you. He doesn't want you to go through hell.

[C]

That's right.

[D]

There's going to be a coming out, a taking up. Do you believe that?

[C]

Yes. Amen.

[A]

Amen.

[D]

And cried with a loud voice saying salvation to our God, which sitteth upon the throne and into the Lamb. And I said unto him, sir, thou knowest and have said to me, these are which came out of great tribulation. Have you been through any tribulation, everybody?

[C]

Yep. That's right.

[A]

Yeah. Hands all over the building.

[C]

Going up.

[A]

Some of them still actively in the middle of.

[D]

I think we're in some tribulation. Tribulation right now.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

I know a lot of people don't want to say, preach this car get better and better and better and better. But when you understand they haven't read the Bible, Mondo.

[E]

But you have to understand the meaning of tribulation. You have to go back to the origin, which means a time of pressure.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

And so when people think of tribulation. Oh, more pressure than I've ever gone through. Ministries, nations, culture, families, individuals, health wise, more pressure than any other time. But when you think about tribulation, you think this apocalyptic. Sure is that. But we're living in a time. When you translate it to a time of pressure. I have not met anybody that is not going through a time of pressure like never before in their life.

[C]

That's right.

[D]

I said unto him, sir, thou knowest, and said to me. These are they which came out of great tribulation. Mondo. And have washed their robes and. And made them white in the blood of the lamb. Oh, God. That's good.

[C]

Yeah, it's really good.

[D]

Therefore are the throne of God and they serve him day and night in his temple. And then them that sit in the throne shall dwell among them they shall hunger no more. Oh, boy. Neither thirst anymore, neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. For the lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them and lead them into the living fountains of water. And God shall wipe away all their tears. And this is what God. This is in chapter seven, Joel. That's scary stuff. But it's going to happen while we live. While you live. It comes before all hell breaks loose. But I mean, there's some bad tribulation, but they're up in heaven. I'd like to be in that number. I've asked God to let me live to be a hundred at least. I'm back and I'm going to preach the gospel and I'm not afraid of anybody.

[A]

It reminds me of that old song. Oh, how I want to be in the number. Yeah, the saints go marching in. Jim, what you're talking about is one of the verses that a lot of people that follow Bible prophecy have recited back to me as one of the most cathartic peace giving scriptures because they are here and a lot of them are suffering. I've got good doctor friends that are seeing from a naturopathic standpoint, trying to help people heal from their physical ailments. These are people that are saying, lord, I cannot wait until you dry all of my tears. You make us whole again. They're praying for their children to be restored. It is a very peace inducing scripture, isn't it?

[D]

Yes.

[A]

When you think about that promise.

[C]

I want to hear something from Donna before we have to leave today.

[B]

One of the things that comes to mind every time I think about Jim Baker. The very first day that I met Jim Baker, I went home so impressed, but not impressed by him as a human being, by the spirit that came off of Jim Baker in the green room. I could not believe the humor. He was sitting there talking to me as if I was a big superstar. He was full attention. Boy, this was the very first time I was tv.

[D]

You got a good crown in heaven. I know.

[C]

Okay. All right. Okay. We have a few minutes left, honey.

[B]

No. He was talking to me like I was just one of them. I wasn't just this little underling servant, you know. He was really giving me his full attention. It was so sweet and kind. So I went home and that night I had a dream. And. And it's a very short dream, but I gotta get to the end because the end is the best part. You gotta let me tell it. But I went to sleep and I was thinking about Pastor Jim and his whole team. And I saw Jim sitting, and it looked kind of like a sort of a dimly lit library with candles lit all around. And he was opened in the word of God and he was reading the book of Revelation. And around Jim, it was like the camera backed up. Sort of a zoom out type of a thing. Fruit baskets everywhere. And I heard a voice that said, you will know them by their fruit. And so I wondered, if you're sitting at home wondering, what will Jim Baker truly be remembered for? You will know them by their fruit. And I'm telling you, think about the things. I made a very short list. Think about the things that Jim Baker will be remembered for. The legacy, first of all, of pioneering in Christian televangelism. Christian televangelism would not exist without Jim Baker. I mean, the Praise the Lord club. What an enormous, enormous legacy. Christian talk show innovator you built. Global TV ministry, PTL satellite network. A Christian media trailblazer in every single way. Faith based, broadcast bioneering. You have encouraged millions and millions and millions of people as an evangelism Christian architect of media. We would not exist without you. None of us would. So thank you so much for the fruit that you have produced and that you will be remember.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

Donna. Donna.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

I was sharing with your mom. It blows my mind to see him at 86 years old and with what he's been through. It shows that with God, all things are possible. With God, all things are possible. And Mondo and I have worked 30 years the three of us have been together, and There are times, you know, I didn't think he was going to make it. They told me he wasn't going to make it. They came in, you know, they came in hospice. They come in and a great, great, great nurse. And she said, laurie, you need to get all the affairs in order. While Jim was laying in bed and in our bedroom. I said, I'm not exactly sure what you mean. I mean, kind of plain dumb like that, but, you know, she said, I've never seen anybody live. This is back in 2020. I've never seen anybody live past than 10 days in this man's condition. And so I literally kindly but firmly said, first of all, you don't know that man laying that bed, but Joe. And secondly, you don't know me because

[D]

I'm a fire that's. And I've been in television for 60 years. And God says, my latter house is going to be bigger than my former house. So I'm not giving up. We're growing.

[C]

And what's exciting.

[D]

And Joe, don't stop.

[C]

It's exciting.

[D]

You've got God on your side.

[C]

But Jim, it's exciting to the younger. Thank you for raising such amazing kids. Okay, can I just. Thank you. Thank you.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

I mean that with all my heart. Because they all love the Lord. They're brilliant, but thank you.

[A]

One of the things that I've observed, and especially after, you know, I hate the phrase taking over the ministry post my father, however you would articulate that you inherited it, inheriting the responsibility, however you want to frame that. One of the things I've seen him, Father, God, do over and over again, and I think he likes it this way because it keeps us dependent on him. He almost waits for somebody to diagnose, prognosticate, assign an outcome that looks so abysmal and grim so that he can show up after the fact, so that you can say only God. And I'll give you an example.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

In 2024, in 2023, when we lost my father, we spent a lot of 2024 very busy with the question, would Skywatch survive a Tom Hornless? And a couple of times I called my ladies and I said, we're this close to, you know, revealing to the staff. It's been a good run. And obviously God is allowing this transition to take place. Cause we've prayerfully done everything we can. And it would be right after those comments that then God would send a donor or God would show up in some way. And all of a sudden we've Got another six months. It's like he waits for you to almost count the thing dead or the person gone so that it can only be God. Jim.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

You're here because why? Only God.

[C]

Only God.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

Only God. It's true.

[A]

Unfortunately, we are completely out of time. But can we have these people back next week? We're going to have to do it again, ladies and gentlemen. Unfortunately, we're all out of time for everybody here in studio Lori, Jim, Mondo, thank you so much for being here with us at Skywatch Television this week.

[D]

I want to ask you the one thing. I know you're going to go. If everybody hasn't. Don't have your dad's books. Get them now. Get them now or you still have them.

[C]

I like the boy.

[D]

He's written stuff that no man has ever written.

[A]

We're gonna have two versions of this episode.

[C]

Yeah. You're gonna have a full. I have to tell you.

[A]

And then the broadcast.

[C]

I wanted to say this earlier. I couldn't remember, honestly. Jim, you know what the longest Jim Baker show we ever did was? Mondo?

[E]

Oh, yes.

[C]

Oh, you do? Yes, I do. Eight hours. Eight hours on the show on a set like that.

[A]

I guess just to see, because I may have been there.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Was it Tom Horn? Chris Putnam?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

No joke.

[A]

I've never seen anything like it.

[C]

No joke.

[D]

And it's the true story we should talk about. We got to get these people to get your dad's books because he's in heaven. But he's left us a great, great set of books.

[A]

Well, his books are still. I mean, social media, they're still sending them to me all the time, you know. Hey, your dad's book this week, it's the Rabbi and the Secret Plan to Build a Third Temple. Like your dad, man, look, he knew stuff.

[D]

He did.

[A]

He sure did. Keep your eyes on the prize, which is Jesus Christ. We'll be back, Sam.

[D]

Oh, my goodness. You caught one.

[E]

Look at that little tiny fish.

[D]

I caught one.

[A]

Another one.

[D]

You're famous now.

[A]

St. You're doing good.