Joe Arteshorn (3:16)

Well, let's dive right in because we're going to be hard pressed for time to even get all of it in. But in the Avatar you share something that you've never before written about, Jonathan. Your encounters with the gods. You write of something strange that happened when you sounded the shofar, the biblical trumpet in India. What was that about?

Jonathan Cahn (3:35)

Yeah, well, I was asked to go to India and to walk in the footsteps of the apostle Thomas because the believers of India traced their faith from the tradition that Thomas came and gave it. So as a Jewish person, I was asked to go there. Now he was killed by the tradition on this mountain martyr. And they asked me to go up that mountain and try not to get killed because it was a radical time when Christians were being killed, radical Hinduism took over. So it was the most dangerous thing I ever did. And the thing is that by the second day, me and my team were almost killed. I mean by the second day they took us to the Taj Mahal and we're coming back and it's fog, I mean deep, deep fog. And the Indian driver is racing through the fog. I mean racing. And all along the road we're seeing these overturned cars, accidents over, but overturned carts, trucks. I've never seen anything like it. Then we crash into the truck in front of us. The truck drags the car, we're going back and forth, almost overturned. By miracle, we did him. Now after I'm looking and in Hindu writings it talks about Krishna, the trickster God and the thing that he did against his enemies, he turned over wheeled vehicles for course. And the thing is the place where he did it according to the mythology was the road we were on was that exact. That was his birthplace. And it was the link between, you know, between mythology. But this is not mythology that almost killed us. This was. And the spiritual realm which the Bible speaks about now I won't go through. We were almost killed throughout the entire journey. At the end, I'm standing in front of thousands of Indians at night and I decide to sound the shofar. You Know, and this is the sound of God's power. I sound it. I don't know what happens. It's like a wave comes back. If you can imagine being at an exorcism, but multiply it by mass, like a mass exorcist. People screaming, blood cursed, as if mass spirits are departing. Now it turns out, you know, God said in the Bible, when you're in war, warfare, sound the shofar, sound the trumpet, I'll hear, and you'll have victory against your enemy. The enemy will flee. Well, for thousands of years ages, Jewish people have sounded the shofar for the enemy to flee. And also at exorcisms. Now, the people in India are not reading that. Those people weren't reading the Bible or Jewish history. So I saw the real intersection of the gods and real spirits. And I saw this all over the world. Cuba. Fidel Castro opened the island of Cuba for one month to allow Christians to go across the island. The Christians asked me to come and open it up with the sound of the trumpet and move, minister throughout the island. I'm in a place called Orientes. And there's a mountain on top of the city where they worship the gods. They have the idols, God's sacrifices, curses. And there's a pavilion on top where they. A house where they have all the idols. Well, I said, I guess I'm going up, you know, I'm going up the next day with the mountain, with my team, and I brought the trumpet, the shofar. I get up, I see the house of the gods. In front of it is a man. He calls out to me. I don't know the guy, but sounds like he knows me. He comes up to me, he says, been waiting for you. And he has in his hand a ceramic plate. And on the plate is a painting. It's a painting of me. And it's a painting of me sounding the shofar, the trumpet which I had in my hand. And the thing is, he says, no, no, he says, he says, I'm a believer. He said, God told me to paint that painting. He told me to put it in the house of the gods. And he says, that night something happened. The new leather strap broke apart, tore apart. It came down, struck the head of the idol, the chief God of Cuba. The next morning, the worshipers opened up their house and they find their chief God on the floor. Sounds like a biblical story. God is real on the floor. And there was a crown on this God. The crown was removed, and next to it was this Jewish guy in a plate with a trumpet and you could see where it was chipped. It was the shofar that. That took off the crown of the idol. And the thing is that the word came down the mountain. And we heard afterwards there was revival in the city. People are coming to the churches, bringing their idols and their gods and saying, smash the idols. We heard what happened on the mountaintop. And so this warfare between the real. These are real. This is a reality. And by the way, you know, I didn't mention in India after that mass exorcism, I gave a call to salvation. About 70,000 Indian people prayed to receive the Lord.

Sam (8:03)

Wow.

Jonathan Cahn (8:03)

So the thing is, I set the stage in the Avatar, this and in other nations as well. But this ultimately has to do with America and the gods and has to do with where we are right now.

Sam (8:13)

Just going to say, I think in your book, you say that when you went to India, they wanted you to do all that because they needed a Jewish believer to go up there and break the curse, but you had to live through it in order to break it.

Jonathan Cahn (8:25)

Well, what happened was they had me go up the mountain of Thomas, and by the way, they had commandos around me because people were being killed that day. And I was a lightning rod. And the thing is, I came up. There's a guy on the mountain, and he says. He says, I've been waiting for you. It's like. And he says that God told me a year ago on this mountain that there's a curse on India. And the mountain epitomizes it. It's the rejection of the gospel. It's Jewish shedding of Jewish blood. He said, a Jewish person has to come here. God told me, go up the mountain and not get killed. And so. And so he was going through the whole city proclaiming that, having no idea I was coming. And by the way, I won't go through it. But why I went up the mountain is because there was somebody from Cuba who came up to me and said, we were praying. God told us on the mountains. And there's a curse. Jewish person has to. So that was part of it. Yes.

Sam (9:07)

Taking back to the.

Jonathan Cahn (9:08)

And spoiler alert, I didn't get killed.

Sam (9:12)

Hallelujah.

Jonathan Cahn (9:12)

No. This is fascinating because there's a young man we've become friends with who's been following Skywatch TV since its inception. Young Indian believer who lives in the

Joe Arteshorn (9:21)

area where Thomas was martyred.

Sam (9:23)

Yes.

Jonathan Cahn (9:23)

And he has talked about the revival that has broken out there. So we've been exchanging notes back and forth about the gods of India and

Joe Arteshorn (9:30)

the connection to the Old Mesopotamian gods

Jonathan Cahn (9:33)

of the time of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and how they were shared back and forth. I won't say his name because he's got to be kind of careful. It's real. It was Madras or Chennai. That's the south of India.

Sam (9:44)

Exactly.

Jonathan Cahn (9:45)

By the way, when went up to the top of the mountain, I didn't plan on talking about all this, but went up top of the mountain. There's a flame there that represents Thomas flame. And they came and they took a torch and handed me the flame. And it was kind of like, you know, the Jewish people gave the flame of the gospel 2,000 years ago, but we kind of dropped the torch. But it was like now it was like the nations were giving it back.

Sam (10:04)

Oh, my goodness, how wonderful.

Joe Arteshorn (10:05)

You said something a minute ago, Jonathan, you know, about the gods, and they're being tied into somehow what's happening now in America. For the sake of time, we have to get to this. It's so important for the audience. Go ahead.

Jonathan Cahn (10:16)

Yeah, yeah. Well, the thing is that, first of all, the Bible says that behind the gods that they worship are actually spirits. The word in Hebrew is shedim, that means spirits, and it's translated in the New Testament as daimonia. We get the word demon. So it says. So that's the first thing. And that's what I saw in the nations. But the problem is with America, we have no awareness of this. And so it's more dangerous because we could be affected by these things, could be affecting our culture, affecting our children, and we have no idea what we're dealing with. And Jesus gave that parable that a man who had been possessed, he's delivered of the spirits, you know, but he stays empty of God. And then the spirits come back and bring seven other spirits to get repossessed. And people say, okay, that's about a God. He says, this generation is going to be like that. And the warning is this. When the gospel came in the world, it drove out the gods. The power of Messiah drove out the gods, drove out the spirits. It was exercised. But the warning is that any nation or civilization or culture that has been delivered of these things by God has known God. If it turns away from God, the spirits that were cast out of it will come back into it. And that is what we are witnessing in our culture, the return. And that's where. That's what that's about. Yes.

Joe Arteshorn (11:21)

And all of this is detailed in your book the Avatar.

Jonathan Cahn (11:24)

Yeah.

Joe Arteshorn (11:25)

Do you guys enjoy this clinic that's happening? This is real life movement of God happening right now in our world. Jonathan, how did the mystery of the gods manifest in the last Olympics and what did it mean? Oh, wow. Yeah.

Jonathan Cahn (11:39)

Well, I think we remember that at the beginning of the Olympics, the opening ceremony, you have the Last Supper. They try to deny it, it's the Last Supper, but instead of Messiah and the apostles, you have men dressed up as women, gyrating. I mean, a pagan thing was probably the most widespread act of blasphemy. And then, but then, you know, on the table, Last Supper is the elements that represent the body of Messiah, the bread and the wine. Well, instead of that, they have a platter of food and they take off the platter. Instead of something representing Jesus, you have a pagan God, Dionysus. So now think about this. At the beginning of the age, Jesus, the power of Messiah, Yeshua drove out Dionysus and all those gods. Now they replaced Jesus back with Dionysus, which is a real prophetic thing about what's happening in our culture now. The thing is, there's a guy who actually did that. He replaced Jesus with Dionysus and it provides a warning. It was in the 19th century. The guy's name was Friedrich Nietzsche.

Sam (12:36)

Oh yeah.

Jonathan Cahn (12:37)

Friedrich Nietzsche is the one who wrote God is dead. And he said, get rid of Christianity, get rid of God, get rid of Jesus. And he actually venerated this particular God, Dionysus. Dionysus would drive his, his followers to insanity. Nietzsche goes insane. And at the end of his writing, he starts writing, instead of signing it Nietzsche, he signs it Dionysus as if he had been totally taken over. And the thing is, his writings go on. And one guy who picks it up is Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich. And that tells you what happens, how dangerous it is for a, quote, Christian or Judeo Christian culture to turn away from God. You get when Russia did it, when Germany did it, and now we are watching it in our culture.

Joe Arteshorn (13:19)

Yes, we are. Yeah. The shattering of Dionysus was a massive movement that came as a side effect of the preaching of the gospel.

Jonathan Cahn (13:25)

That's right.

Joe Arteshorn (13:26)

And so now it's like culture is trying to reset us. No, no, no, nevermind. We don't want to go that direction. We want to go back to the ancient gods and resurrect our worship of them and give the biggest middle finger, if I can use that framework, to God the Father and the Creator of the universe. As incredible as these are, it is difficult to squeeze all of the stuff that you need to get off your chest. All of the things that God has Given you as a download into one body of work. You always offer, if someone is down for it, deeper extraction. The Avatar Uncensored DVD album, tell us about that.

Jonathan Cahn (13:58)

Yeah, that's exclusive. That you can't get that online, you can't get that on Amazon. I only do it for things like Skywatch. So the thing is that this is the uncensored version. This not only has the mystery of this, it has things I could not put even in there, or things that are even explosive of that. But you're not just reading it, you're gonna see it, you're gonna see the manife, you'll see it unfold. It's eight one hour DVDs. People can show it in church, they can show it to their friends. And it has all sorts of mysteries that I never put anywhere, including the keys for the end time believer right now and so much more. So it's real special. It's going to be an explosion with eight one hour DVDs. It's the Avatar Uncensored.

Sam (14:33)

In your book you talk about a dark trinity.

Jonathan Cahn (14:35)

Yes.

Sam (14:36)

In Christianity, we of course have the wonderful trinity of God the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. What is the dark trinity? Is that just a negative version of that?

Jonathan Cahn (14:45)

Yeah, the enemy always has a negative. He always has a substitute version. And this is what the continuation from the return of the gods that is happening now that when you look at when Israel turned away from God, there were three primary gods of their fall. And one was called in Hebrew, means the master or the owner or the possessor. And we call him baal. It was baal. And that's the spirit principality linked to a nation turning away from God to gods. Well, in America we started driving out. It's the driving out of God. We saw that the next one is the goddess meaning enchantress, Ishtar or Ashtoreth in the Bible, Goddess of sexual immorality and goddess of gender confusion. In honor, she says, I am a woman, I am a man. And this is the one that says she turns men into women, women into men. One of her signs was the rainbow. Her key month of possessing a culture was June or pride month. And so this has been taken over the culture as well. And the other one is Moloch, of course, who causes parents to offer up their children. So when you see this progression for we turn away from God, emptied it out, the house is not going to stay empty. And you've got that. So this has continued, in fact, since we first talked about these things. It continued where the point where Just before this election, it was as if the gods were gonna take over every institution of culture. We were. At that point. People were afraid to say that there's even male or female. No, that's right. So that's where we were. And this is gonna bring up another mystery which has to do with the kings and the actual leaders.

Joe Arteshorn (16:05)

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Sam (18:40)

I have to jump in. I want to Ask a question here. First of all, thank you very much for the purity in your work, because there is a mass syncretism that is blending Christianity with all kinds of pagan world religions. And right now, it's being viewed in the template of progressive Christianity. And a lot of people are blind to the fact that it's actually regressive Christianity, taking us back to a very ancient syncretism that the apostles dealt with 2000 years ago and the Jewish community dealt with before that many, many times. So thank you for the purity of your work. But there is an ancient template of gods and of kings that is eerily replaying in our day. Please go there.

Jonathan Cahn (19:25)

Yeah. This is one of the things the avatar opens up and brings. It's happening to this day, and that is that it's not just when Israel turned away from God, they went to the gods, but there were kings who were part of that. There were queens who were part of that apostasy. And the amazing thing is that when you look at playing not just generally, but specifically, in fact, the kings of this template and the queens are actually prototypes for people on the national stage right now. And from this time example, you have a king whose name was Ahav, we call him Ahab, who was involved with a culture war, divided the nation, was a man of scandal, scandals and all, and had a very kind of strong wife in the wrong way. And so you had Bill Clinton, that is the prototype of Clinton. The same thing was a culture war. Clinton was on the national political stage for 22 years. Ahab, it says, reigned for 22 years. In the 19th year of Ahab's reign, a scandal breaks out. Well, 19th year of Clinton on the national, which is 1998, January, it starts in that month, the scandal breaks out.

Sam (20:27)

Wow.

Jonathan Cahn (20:27)

And the thing is that when I'm just giving you an example, when Ahab confessed at one point, he confesses to it, but then he turns back, well, well, Clinton confessed months later. He actually said, I've sinned. Well, three years after Ahab confessed that the strike of an enemy comes on the land, three years after Clinton made his confession, a strike comes on America called 9, 11. It's three years to the exact day of the confession, to the exact hour that he did it. Now, this is also the mystery behind Barack Obama, where you have a king called Joram who was kind of hostile to the things of God. Obama was on the national stage for exactly 12 years from the convention to his end. Well, Joram, 12 years. You even have Osama bin Laden, which was an enemy of Israel called Ben Haddad, who brings the 911 to Israel and is assassinated in his bedroom 10 years later. And then you have Hillary Clinton. Listen, we got to pray for the people. It's not about the people. We have no enemies. But the thing is that, you know, Jezebel was the wife of Ahab and she was for BAAL worship, which is child sacrifice.

Joe Arteshorn (21:28)

No, that's right.

Jonathan Cahn (21:28)

Well, Hillary Clinton was the champion, was voted the champion of abortion in America. Clinton was on the. Hillary Clinton was on the national stage with her husband for 22 years. Political stage. On her own in public office or running for president. Totals to 14 years. Jezebel, 22 years with AHAB, on her own 14 years. And the thing is, we were at the point with Israel and then us that the house of Ahab was taking over every institution of culture. If it had kept going, the nation would be gone. And so with America, we're at this point where, as we said, every institution, the gods and the kings. But then God had a surprise for Israel and God had a surprise in America. His name is Jehu, and Jehu is going to be the mystery of Donald Trump in America. Jehu was wild, unpredictable. You never knew what he was going to do next, say next. We believe he had a Twitter account, but we can't prove it. And so this is the mystery of Donald Trump. You know, let me say something. I didn't even, you know, remember when Donald Trump began his thing, he came down that he was on top of the stairs. He came down, started the. Jehu was on top of the stairs, came down and began the race. Same thing. Jehu makes an alliance with the religious conservatives of the land. Donald Trump makes an alliance with the religious evangelicals of America. Jehu's agenda for the capital city was to drain the swamp. Trump drained the swamp. In order for Jehu to come to power, he had to contend against the nation's former first lady, which in that case was Jezebel. In this case, it was Hillary Clinton. Now, all the polls were saying Hillary Clinton was going to trounce him, but the mystery says no, the Jehu will prevail. And that's exactly. You want to understand Donald Trump, it's that you want to understand even what's happening to this second. We'll get to it in the next book.

Joe Arteshorn (23:07)

Sure.

Jonathan Cahn (23:08)

It is this mystery. It is totally Jehu.

Joe Arteshorn (23:10)

Well, thankfully, we have more than just this one installation with Jonathan Cahn, but it's all right here in the book. The A masterpiece. I'm having a hard time Keeping up. Are you guys following all of this incredible information? I told Jonathan before we started, I said, man, you're gonna have to talk quick because we got a lot of ground to cover. Jonathan, with just a few minutes left on the clock, what did the King and queen have to do with the mystery of Jehu, Donald Trump, and the last three American presidential elections?

Jonathan Cahn (23:39)

Yeah, as we know, there's been a lot of controversy over the elections and a lot of theories and all that. But beyond all that, there's something bigger. The template of Jehu. And we began to touch on it. The template of Jehu is to come to power, he does two things. First, he comes against the sitting king at the time. Then a woman arises in place of the king in the biblical template, it's Joram. He actually comes head to head with Joram, actually slays Joram, and then comes a woman in place, which is Jezebel, who then has an anti biblical agenda. He contends against her and he prevails. Okay, that's the template of Jehu coming to power. Well, in 2016, it was the template of Jehu first. If you remember, Trump came against Obama. That was his first, his first big thing. Then a woman with an anti biblical agenda rises up in his place, which was Hillary Clinton. He prevails against her, he contends, and he wins. Okay? Now 2020, it's a whole different thing. You don't have the template of Jehu. He's in power. There's no king to go. There's no. It doesn't. And he doesn't prevail. He doesn't prevail. But in 2024, the template of Jehu resurrects. And so now, first thing, he comes against the sitting king or President Biden. He comes head to head, just like in the Bible, face to face. But it's a debate. And he politically slays Biden. That's the end of Biden's political career. Just like Jehu slayed Joram. But then a woman has to arise who has to have an anti biblical agenda. And so a woman arises, which is Kamala Harris, with an anti biblical agenda, abortion, all those things. And so he contends against her. And according to the template, he has to prevail. And so that is why he prevailed in 2016, not in 2020, but in 2024. It's all the template and mystery of Jehu.

Joe Arteshorn (25:30)

And we've only just begun what is going to be three episodes on the Avatar with Jonathan Cahn. Jonathan, with just a couple of minutes Left. Let's kind of tease what we're gonna try to get into next week.

Jonathan Cahn (25:43)

Yeah. If you can kind of believe it, we're gonna actually open up the mystery of Joe Biden. He's actually in the ancient template. I mean, amazingly, even the mystery of Kamala Harris is in the template. I mean, incredibly, what is happening with Trump right now explaining everything that's happening right now in our government and the mystery of that. And we may begin to touch also on avatars, because I know the last thing we'll do is going to open up. It's going to get increasingly explosive.

Joe Arteshorn (26:10)

I'll just warn you.

Jonathan Cahn (26:12)

And it's going to be on something that's just mind blowing.

Joe Arteshorn (26:15)

Yeah. And I know that there are people out there right now watching this program and they're thinking, okay, if this template has been so accurate in the past, what might it tell us? What might it inform us about moving forward into the future? And so hang with us because we're going to start unpacking some of that over the next couple of weeks. Jonathan, with just a minute left, give us your final thoughts as we ready for next week.

Jonathan Cahn (26:37)

Yeah. The amazing thing is this thing just keeps unfolding. And what it's saying is that, listen, God is over everything. God is in control. That's what it's about. You know, when God writes the scripture, he knows every event of human history, and that's going to apply to it. So one of the things that this is telling us is one, he wants to give revelation to us, you know, to make things very clear, where are we, what we're dealing with? And also to tell us, listen, no matter what happens in the world, he is in control. Every single thing. I mean, even 9, 11, even Osama bin Laden, even the evil, even the agenda against him, he's in control of it. And at the end, we do win. You know, we do prevail. And that's true. I mean, you know, there are things that are. Whoa. Like that. But it's also, listen, remember, it's telling you your God is on the throne and greater is he in you than he and all this in the world.

Joe Arteshorn (27:24)

And that is a timeless truth. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. But we're out of time. But don't despair. Next week, Jonathan Cahn returns to talk about a prophetic pattern from the past that may have foretold the outcomes of the last three presidential elections. We will pick up right where we've left off. For everybody here in studio, for everybody up here on panel, Jonathan, thank you once again for being here this week. I'm Joe Artis Horne. Keep your eyes on the prize, which is. Jesus Christ. We'll be back, Sam.