SNAFU's Hottest Takes & Biggest Laughs

Summary

SNAFU with Ed Helms: "SNAFU's Hottest Takes & Biggest Laughs"

Podcast Date: April 29, 2026
Host: Ed Helms
Guests Featured: Chelsea Handler, Adam Scott, Nick Kroll, Ginny Slate, Cal Penn, others
Theme: A compilation of the season’s sharpest hot takes, funniest moments, and most delightfully off-the-rails stories about human blunders—proving why history’s greatest screwups are a never-ending source of insight and laughter.

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Episode Overview

This special clip episode marks a break from SNAFU’s usual format, as Ed Helms revisits some of the most hilarious, spicy, and strange moments from Season 4. Drawing from a host of sharp-witted celebrity guests, the show dives into stories of historical mishaps, government silliness, cult temptations, parenting panics, and the notorious “hot city smell.” If you’re new to SNAFU or need a reminder that human error is a universal and often hilarious experience, this episode is for you.

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Key Highlights & Discussion Points

1. Government Awkwardness: The “MILF” Incident

Guest: Cal Penn (former White House Liaison)
Timestamp: 04:06–07:18

• Cal recounts a White House snafu: learning that a Philippine terror group’s acronym was “MILF” and accidentally replying-all on a serious government email chain with a joke about it.
• Quote: “Yo, their main terror group are the MILFs. Amazing.” – Cal (05:42)
• Fellow staffers admitted it was hilarious but refused to “LOL” out of fear of future public records.

2. Mob Mentality & the Cult Temptation

Guest: Chelsea Handler (possibly Ginny Slate)
Timestamp: 07:25–11:23

• The panel discusses how mob mentality drags crowds down to the intellect of the “dumbest person present.”
• Ed: “The intelligence of a mob is that of the dumbest person in the mob.” (07:36)
• Chelsea admits: “I would totally get drawn into a cult because I like all the things that they do except I don’t like having to be naked… or do oral sex to a very, very elderly person who has a long beard.” (09:18)
• Wisdom shared: Questioning and thoughtful friends/family are the best safeguards against cults and mass hysteria.

3. Nick Kroll’s Family Deep Sea Fishing Fiasco

Guest: Nick Kroll (as a child)
Timestamp: 12:52–15:17

• A tale of a disastrous family outing in Puerto Rico where epic waves led to everyone vomiting tuna sandwiches—except for Dad, who “turned a chartreuse.”
• Ed pokes fun: “A tuna fish sandwich smells horrendous to begin with… then to regurgitate it is just an unthinkable stench.” (14:43)

4. Presidential Loneliness & the “Trump Friend Conundrum”

Timestamp: 18:39–19:57

• Ed wonders how someone like Trump maintains close friends; guests note that his relationships are more transactional than empathetic or vulnerable.
• Quote: “What happens to a human who doesn’t have an emotional sounding board or compatriot that isn’t tied up into your own personal success?” (19:12)
• Joking compassion: “I just want to give him a hug.” (19:54)

5. Panic, Guilt, and the Actor’s Curse

Guest: Paul (possibly an actor)
Timestamp: 20:56–21:44

• Paul and Ed confess intense anxiety whenever asked to talk privately—becoming paranoid despite being innocent.
• “That fear of being perceived as guilty can actually make you act more guilty.” – Ed (21:15)
• Paul: “When you’re an actor, people think you must be a good liar. I’m like, no, I memorize other people’s words!” (21:32)

6. Hot Takes on Microdosing Psychedelics

Guest: Chelsea Handler
Timestamp: 33:11–35:23

• Chelsea vividly advocates for microdosing hallucinogens: “It puts an exclamation point on whatever experience you’re having… It adds a little giggle… It kind of makes you have a little bit extra gratitude.” (33:17)
• Ed’s approved: “You’re the Pied Piper of microdosing!” (35:14)
• Chelsea: “I love sharing my drugs. My whole tour is basically about me traveling around the world handing out LSD to strangers.” (35:09)

7. Broken Arrows: The Surprising History of Lost Nukes

Timestamp: 36:01–36:42

• Ed reveals there have been 32 “broken arrow” (lost nuclear weapon) incidents since 1950—astonishing his guests.
• “If you say we have 32 lost nuclear weapons, you’re like, wait, stop.” (36:23)

8. Euphemisms: Why “Bloopers” and “Candy Bags” Make It Better

Timestamp: 36:46–37:39

• Reflections on why calling mistakes “bloopers” or “candy bags” (for extra monologues) makes them more palatable and less stressful.
• Ed: “Even the word snafu is kind of fun. Snafu, guys—it’s just a snafu.” (37:33)

9. City Summers: Urban Nostalgia in All Its Funky Glory

Guest: Adam Scott
Timestamp: 27:20–29:18

• Ed and Adam compare the infamously stifling (and smelly) New York City summer to more rural South heat.
• Ed describes the “city summer funk.” Adam jokes about launching a line of candles with that scent.

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Notable Quotes

• “You would think the government would have a more sober acronym, but no… MILF is considered highly dangerous.” – Cal (05:04)
• “I would be the weakest, the dumbest person in the mob. I’m the person that turns us from a cohort into a freakout.” – Chelsea Handler (08:26)
• “If this were a movie, who would you be? If this were a parable, who would they be?” – Chelsea Handler (10:51)
• “A tuna fish sandwich smells horrendous to begin with. To eat and then regurgitate it… is just an unthinkable stench.” – Ed Helms (14:43)
• “The minute you start asking questions—even with genuine curiosity… that’s the best armor against indoctrination.” – Ed Helms (10:07)
• “I love sharing my drugs, too. My whole tour is basically about me traveling around the world handing out LSD to strangers.” – Chelsea Handler (35:09)
• “Even the word snafu is kind of fun. Snafu, guys—it’s just a snafu.” – Ed Helms (37:33)

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Memorable Moments

• White House “MILF” Disaster: Cal’s reply-all mishap brings relatable cringe to government work.
• Vomit Boat: An entire family emptied their stomachs at sea—a literal and metaphorical SNAFU.
• Microdosing Sales Pitch: Chelsea Handler’s endorsement is spirited, funny, and surprisingly earnest.
• Urban Aroma: The “city summer funk” segment turns NYC’s stench into an oddly nostalgic bonding experience.

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Recommended Listening Order (w/ Timestamps)

• White House MILF story • 04:06–07:18
• Mob mentality and cults • 07:25–11:23
• Vomit boat family vacation • 12:52–15:17
• Presidential loneliness • 18:39–19:57
• Microdosing hot take • 33:11–35:23
• Broken arrows & euphemisms • 36:01–37:39
• New York City summer funk • 27:20–29:18

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Final Notes

This episode is the ultimate SNAFU sampler: history is rich with failure, but the way we laugh about it—and try (not always successfully) to learn—might be our only hope. If you need a serotonin boost, a lesson in not taking yourself (or your government) too seriously, or a nudge to start your own gifting closet, this clip show delivers.

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SNAFU with Ed Helms is available on all podcast platforms and YouTube. For more history’s greatest screwups, grab the companion book at snafu-book.com.

Transcript

[Ed Helms]

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[Ed Helms]

Hey there, Ed Helms here, your tireless, dedicated and benevolent host of snafu, your favorite podcast about history's greatest screw ups. And this week, we're doing something kind of special. It's not just a regular episode. This is a compilation episode. A clip show, if you will. And not just any clip show. For today's episode, I dove back into some of my favorite episodes from this season and I plucked out the spiciest hot takes, the biggest laughs and some of the most wonderfully unhinged moments with my incredible roster of guests. So, for example, Chelsea Handler's just wonderful plug for microdosing psychedelics and Nick Kroll's deep sea fishing fiasco. It does involve barf. Spoiler alert. Ginny Slate's strikingly casual take on her own susceptibility to cults, which, as someone with deep affection for Jenny Slate, was kind of unnerving. That's just a smattering, a taste, if you will. There's so much more. So keep listening or watching, of course, for a fun romp through the last six months of snafu. And be sure to stick around till the very end because I saved the best for last. Enjoy. It can sort of like eat you a little bit. That's what I found.

[Guest (possibly Chelsea Handler)]

Yeah.

[Ed Helms]

Yeah.

[Guest (possibly Adam Scott)]

Well, Ed, I'm dead inside.

[Cal (White House Liaison)]

So every time you say that it's a town full of miners or dusty angry miners who can't drink alcohol, I picture a bunch of 12 year olds who are just fighting with each other over beer that doesn't exist.

[Ed Helms]

Yes. They're like, Adam Scott's on my flight and he won't put down. He's like yelling at the flight attendants about getting more tomato juice and they're

[Adam (Adam Scott)]

like, get me my tomato juice.

[Ed Helms]

You're out of tomato juice. It's so weird.

[Cal (White House Liaison)]

For folks who don't know I took a two year sabbatical from acting with the intent to always come back. Acting and performing is my first love, but I was the President's liaison to young Americans and Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders in an office called the Office of Public Engagement. Think of it as like an outreach office. And on my third day, the National Security Council.

[Ed Helms]

Are you in the White House?

[Cal (White House Liaison)]

In the White House. In the actual White House. They add me to a massive email chain. And these email chains have 100 people on them. Real serious national security people in those days. And everything in government is an acronym, right? So for example, if you get an email from the National Security Council, it'll say National Security Council. Then any other time in the email, it'll just say nsc. And so they said, plus, Cal, Cal, because you're the President's new liaison to the Asian American, you should know about this delegation from the Philippines that's meeting at the White House. And the thing that you should know is about this terror group in the Philippines that you might get questions on. They're called the Moro Islamic Liberation Front. And then in parentheses, it just said milf. And then the rest of the email. I'm not fucking with you. The rest of the email said MILF is considered highly dangerous. MILF is known to recruit young men and things like, you know, many young men grow to regret their affiliation with MILF over time.

[Ed Helms]

This is the opposite of a snafu. This is delightful. I love that there are these little nuggets of governmental awkwardness.

[Guest (possibly Nick Kroll)]

Great.

[Cal (White House Liaison)]

So I thought this was so wonderful that in my head I'm at my desk laughing my ass off. I hit reply all and I wrote, yo, their main terror group are the MILFs. Amazing. And I hit send. And as soon as I hit send, I was like, you idiot, you are not in a writer's room at Universal. You are in the White House on an email chain with the National Security Council. And I couldn't unsend it. And I. And like, it was silent after that. And in the hallway, coworkers, many of whom in the. In the pod world, you all know a lot of the pod Save America guys and Tommy Viator and Ben Rhodes and these guys who I worked with at the time in the hallway were like, yo, that shit was so funny. We were all thinking it, like, will one of you please hit reply all and just say lol? That's all I need. I just need one of you to LOL me. And they all were like, hell no, man. This is going to be a public record one day. I just don't want my name associated with you calling out the MILF thing. So that was my. One of my professional snafus.

[Ed Helms]

Oh, my God, I love it. You know what? The only thing that would have made that snafu better is if Obama himself had, like, walked up into your office, like, leaned against the door jam and just been like, california buddy, what the hell? We're gonna have to fire you. Like, you're gonna. This is not. You can't do this.

[Cal (White House Liaison)]

If that were the case, I felt like it would have gone the other way. And he would have just been like, did you see the name of this terror group?

[Ed Helms]

I feel like the government needs more people like you, Cal. It'd be a lot more fun. A lot more like chuckles in the hallways.

[Cal (White House Liaison)]

And I enjoy.

[Ed Helms]

It's so serious all the time. Yeah, angry mobs were a real big deal at this point.

[Guest (possibly Chelsea Handler)]

They're really scary. I mean, we had one recently in our nation. It's scary. Yeah, they're scary.

[Ed Helms]

They don't generally make good decisions.

[Guest (possibly Chelsea Handler)]

No.

[Ed Helms]

I read somewhere a quote, I Wish I could remember who to attribute it to. The intelligence of a mob is that of the dumbest person in the mob. So like the behavior, like an entire mob behaves as the dumbest person in the mob.

[Guest (possibly Chelsea Handler)]

Actually I was just thinking about like if for some reason Americans were able to be totally silent while someone rolled through town that they didn't like that. Like when I said we'd never be able to do it, like I was fully imagining myself in the, in the silent crowd, not being able to stop myself from being like, who farted? Like just like that. It's so tempting to disturb, you know, the stillness. I think I would be the weakest those, the dumbest person in the mob. I'm the person that changes us from a cohort into like a freak out.

[Ed Helms]

Could you ever see yourself being swept up in a mob?

[Guest (possibly Chelsea Handler)]

I think it's one of those, emotionally.

[Ed Helms]

Yeah. Because I feel like it's one of those things that we all think like, that we're. It's sort of like cults, right? Everyone says like I could never join a cult. Like I would never fall for that in saying I'm too.

[Guest (possibly a Sims player)]

You would.

[Guest (possibly Chelsea Handler)]

I don't think I would be in a mob because I don't consider myself to be like an impulsive person and I don't have like, sort of, you know, like the switchblade of a temper that just like comes out. But I really love friendly groups. I love cooking. I love it when people are like trying to help each other actualize their dreams. And I like it when people like are dedicated to each other. And a lot of times cults are like non violent. I used to have a stand up bit about this actually. About how like I would totally get drawn into the, into a cult because like I like all the things that they do except I don't like having to be naked in a group of people and I don't like having to do like oral sex to like a very, very elderly person who has a long beard, which I feel like they make you do. Like the head of the cult that

[Ed Helms]

is, that's, that's in the cult, the cult bylaws.

[Guest (possibly Chelsea Handler)]

There's usually some guy who's like, you know what? Actually a lot of the more interesting members of the cult are doing.

[Ed Helms]

Yeah, yeah. But wait, why haven't fallen into a cult then? There are lots of them out there. There are lots of great options.

[Guest (possibly Chelsea Handler)]

Hey, I've got a strong family, really great friends that are like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't, don't Go in there.

[Ed Helms]

Good answer. I also think that you are a inquisitive person, and you're someone who, like, you're. You're not only very intelligent and sort of, like, educated, and you've taken it upon yourself to learn about the world and learn about people. And I think that is some of the best armor against these kinds of group think or indoctrination of some kind. The minute you start asking questions, even with genuine curiosity, not even like an accusatory, like, wait a minute, but you're just sort of like, now, hold on. Why do you think I should blow that old man with a beard? Like, what's the reason? Like, why are we getting. What's.

[Guest (possibly Chelsea Handler)]

Why would we have to do that, though? Like, you know, like, if we're all gonna transcend and, like, you know, have clear minds, like, why would we need to do that? Yeah. And, you know, what is a good place to start for me sometimes is like, I will ask myself or sometimes other people, like, if this were a movie, who. Who would you be? And, like, what part of the story, like, would it seem like a good story? If this were a parable, if this were, like a religious text or a fairy tale, who would you be? Who would they be?

[Ed Helms]

Yeah, who would they be? You know, that's a great question.

[Guest (possibly Chelsea Handler)]

Yeah. Who would they be?

[Ed Helms]

I think you're onto something really quite elegant, which is that stories, movies, parables, the sort of broad whatever gestalt of human storytelling, it is rooted in fundamental values. Right. Like a sense of right and wrong. My kid loves the Lion King. And so I've gotten very deep into the sort of, like, Lion King universe. And. And that is a movie where good and bad is so clearly delineated and bad is portrayed with Nazi symbolism.

[Guest (possibly Chelsea Handler)]

Totally. I mean.

[Guest (female, possibly Ginny Slate)]

Yeah.

[Guest (possibly Chelsea Handler)]

When he sings Be Prepared, that is those. Those hyenas are doing it.

[Ed Helms]

Hyenas are literally goose stepping.

[Guest (possibly Chelsea Handler)]

Yeah.

[Ed Helms]

And it's. And so it's. It's so interesting to me that those kinds of stories that. That obviously have an intent to kind of raise children with a sense of right and wrong and a sense of sort of trepidation towards that kind of behavior. Towards scars behavior.

[Guest (female, possibly Ginny Slate)]

Yeah.

[Ed Helms]

And yet we see a cultural swing to a greater trust in that. Like, I'm so conf. That's such cognitive dissonance for me and that I'm trying to work through and understand.

[Guest (child, Nick Kroll's family story)]

So I was away with my whole family. We were in, I think, Puerto Rico on a family vacation around, I think, you know, like, Christmas vacation. And so my dad Thought a cool thing to do would be to organize a deep sea fishing trip for my mom's birthday because my dad knows nothing about what is my mom would enjoy. So they packed us like the hotel packed us a bunch of like tuna sandwiches because, you know, Puerto Rico is famous for its tuna fish sandwiches. My family ranged from about 8 to 15. Four of us, my parents and.

[Ed Helms]

And you're the youngest, right?

[Guest (child, Nick Kroll's family story)]

I'm the youngest, yeah.

[Ed Helms]

So you're, you're eight.

[Guest (child, Nick Kroll's family story)]

I'm eight or nine years old. And we get on the boat, we're going out to the deep sea and the waves are horrible. Like, we later found out that a tanker had capsized that day in the Atlantic. So the waves were massive. We were just getting pummeled and we all were sitting there and the entire family puked our tuna fish sandwiches out all over, all over the place. Except for my dad who just sat in the captain's chair gripping like the chair turning. I'd never seen, you know when people say like he turned green. Like I've never seen it really since before, since. But my dad turned fully like a chartreuse of. And all of us just absolutely ralphed all over this boat and it was like, happy birthday, Mom.

[Ed Helms]

This is perfect. And the best part is like a tuna fish sandwich. A tuna fish sandwich smells horrendous to begin with. Fresh. Like a fresh sandwich right out of

[Guest (possibly a Sims player)]

the deli is like.

[Ed Helms]

It's kind of a gross thing already. And then to eat it and then to regurgitate it. Yeah. Is a. Is just an unthinkable stench. It's not ideal.

[Cal (White House Liaison)]

No.

[Ed Helms]

Well, that's very tragic and I'm very, very sorry.

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[Guest (possibly Chelsea Handler)]

So good.

[Guest (child, Nick Kroll's family story)]

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[Ed Helms]

No, I got it.

[Guest (female, possibly Ginny Slate)]

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[Ed Helms]

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[Adam (Adam Scott)]

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[Ed Helms]

I do wonder though, like someone you know, you look at these presidents, whether it's a Trump or a Barack Obama or somebody, you're like how many good like close friends are they able to main at that point I would think someone like Trump is, like, so hard to get close to and so hard to sort of, like, feel a sense of trust with, even if you're. If you match his core values, whatever they are, like, it just seems. I don't know. Their life is so public, and it's so committed to the public eye.

[Guest (commenting on Trump)]

Yeah. I mean, I think, like, yeah. The usage of a friend as somebody who you could truly be honest with and empathize with and you could, like, be vulnerable with. I see people like Trump, who sees almost everybody as, like, a means to an end. Everything has a loyalty test and even things, you know, not to besmirch any relationships, but those don't seem to be the most friendly and open. Those seem transactional as well. And you're like, oh, what happens to a human who doesn't have an emotional sounding board or compatriot that isn't tied up into your own personal success?

[Ed Helms]

Are you expressing. Are you starting to express some deep compassion for Donald Trump?

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[Guest (commenting on Trump)]

We've created a monster, and I just want to give him a hug.

[Ed Helms]

That's what probably all he needs. Jordan, just give him a hug. That's it. Group hug. I want in on that. Come on, man. Let's do it. Let's break through this.

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[Guest (commenting on Trump)]

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[Ed Helms]

I got a Rivian right now. Bragging. Is Rivian a brag. Yeah. Mad respect, bro. By the way, you couldn't be more of a dad when a Rivian SUV is a brag. I'm driving a Porsche. I'm like, dude, I got a car that can fit six kids, luggage, and a dog. And you go, jesus, you're winning. It doesn't go fast. And I will. I will say it's not that much fun to drive, but the storage in that baby, I feel like what makes me not a criminal mastermind is like, I. As soon as I even start to think about that, I just start sweating.

[Guest (actor, possibly Paul)]

By the way, I am the. It is so far in the degree of panic for me, even when I know I've done nothing wrong.

[Ed Helms]

Exactly.

[Guest (actor, possibly Paul)]

If you were like, hey, hey, I need to talk to you later, I'd be like, what have I done? What don't I remember? And then you're maybe do. And not the same way.

[Ed Helms]

What is.

[Guest (microdosing advocate)]

What.

[Ed Helms]

What childhood trauma led us into this? It's so annoying. I mean, and like, this. And it's also very interesting this, that that fear of being perceived as guilty can. Can actually make you act more guilty. And Absolutely. And this is a.

[Guest (actor, possibly Paul)]

And here's the thing. And I bet you get this. When you're an actor, people think, you must be a good liar. And I'm like, no, I memorize other people's words. I can't come up with them on my own. I'm not like a liar on the fly.

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[Ed Helms]

Exactly. Now, on paper, Paul, explosive growth is great, right? Sure. But is it always good for a community? No, I know this is good. Or is it just an efficient way to stress people out?

[Guest (possibly a Sims player)]

I mean, I know this from many years of playing the Sims video game. You can't build too quick. Things happen. You can't keep up. Supply and demand.

[Ed Helms]

Yeah.

[Guest (possibly a Sims player)]

There's a lot of jobs, but then there are enough sewage plants. You know, things happen.

[Ed Helms]

Well, as. As someone who's known you a long, long time, so many of us have been trying to pull you out of Sim City. No, I gotta. You're too plugged in.

[Guest (possibly a Sims player)]

And I'm not even on the Sims. I'm not even doing the people.

[Ed Helms]

I'm just doing the cities.

[Guest (possibly a Sims player)]

I'm doing the city.

[Ed Helms]

I can't. I'm so worried about when Sim goes VR. And you'll, like, just. You'll be so immersed.

[Guest (possibly a Sims player)]

I gotta put this baseball stadium somewhere.

[Ed Helms]

Ed, can you guess who we're talking about?

[Guest (French accent speaker)]

Napoleon Bonaparte.

[Ed Helms]

Bonaparte. Napoleon. Why is it so fun to do that accent? I hope it's not too offensive. It's only inoffensive if it's a bad accent. I have a very good accent. Right.

[Guest (French accent speaker)]

We're also running out of accents we can make fun of without it being a problem. So I think we gotta hang on to making fun of the French.

[Ed Helms]

It's kind of sad that to a lot of Americans, French people are basically the chef in Little Mermaid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is preposterous.

[Guest (French accent speaker)]

Like, can you still sing any of that song? And do you have the rights to sing it on this podcast?

[Guest (possibly Nick Kroll)]

What is this?

[Guest (French accent speaker)]

How on earth could I miss such a sweet.

[Ed Helms]

Such a sweet little succulent crab? The most amazing thing about that song is that they rhyme poisson with hon. He goes les poissons, les poissons

[Cal (White House Liaison)]

that's

[Guest (French accent speaker)]

the most French thing ever.

[Ed Helms]

It's a rhyme. That's part of the lyrics is.

[Guest (French accent speaker)]

I love that our brains will forever hang on to that. There's so many more useful things that should be lodged up in there. But I will forever remember all the lyrics to that.

[Ed Helms]

Yeah. I have a couple of little kids, so it's like, still Hitting me in the face constantly.

[Guest (possibly Nick Kroll)]

Fads are people try to, like, freeze them in amber. There are ways and means to freeze them in amber now. I think so anyway. That's not answering your question. To answer your question, of course I.

[Ed Helms]

You fell for Labubus? I fell for thousands right off the bat.

[Guest (possibly Nick Kroll)]

Thousand Labubus? Yes. There's at least there are two in my kitchen, of all places. Terrible place to keep them.

[Ed Helms]

Why?

[Guest (possibly Nick Kroll)]

They're furry. They're gonna catch something. Crumbs, you know, on fire.

[Ed Helms]

On fire.

[Guest (possibly Nick Kroll)]

They are dangerously.

[Survivor contestant guest]

True story.

[Ed Helms]

That is a synthetic fur. I don't know what. It's probably night season.

[Cal (White House Liaison)]

Mine.

[Guest (possibly Nick Kroll)]

No, mine are human hair. I know every fad. I'm playing this Pokemon game right now that is, like, all over the Internet. I'm looking at Lisa Frank stickers right now. I would call those a fad. There's a great documentary about how.

[Ed Helms]

What is that?

[Guest (possibly Nick Kroll)]

Lisa Frank? You don't know Lisa Frank?

[Ed Helms]

Wait, do I? What is that?

[Guest (possibly Nick Kroll)]

These were big in, like, the 90s and aughts. These were on every single, like, space saver binder backpack in the late 90s, early aughts.

[Cal (White House Liaison)]

Anyway.

[Ed Helms]

And you have a fresh pack, like, right there on your desk. I'm scared, Bowen. I'm worried that, like, right off camera, there's towering stuff, like, everything that you've bought off of infomercials and Labubus. And that one false move and it's gonna collapse and we're gonna have to call an ambulance to get you out.

[Guest (possibly Nick Kroll)]

This is my audition for hoarders. And this is. That's my gifting closet. Everyone has some structural thing where it's just a bunch of crap. And you're like, I'm gonna give. I'm gonna hand this off to, like, the next person who comes to my house. And I feel like should leave with something.

[Ed Helms]

Amen. I wish I had a gifting closet. If I take one thing from this, it's that I need a gifting closet. 16 passengers sustained minor injuries, and most of those were from the evacuation of the plane.

[Adam (Adam Scott)]

Sure. That's usually what happens.

[Ed Helms]

Yeah, yeah, right. Which reportedly was completed in approximately 90 seconds. And now that's incredible to me because when I think of people deplaning, it is such a just dumpster fire of elbows and anger and luggage pulling down, whatever. But I would also imagine that being scared of a plane exploding might help you get off a plane quicker. That's right. Yeah.

[Adam (Adam Scott)]

I have a question for you. I always think about. Cause just the other day, people had to Evacuate a southwest flight or something. And I saw the footage of them, like, bouncing down the slide that they deploy off the side of the plane.

[Ed Helms]

Oh, I missed that.

[Adam (Adam Scott)]

And I know that they always say, when you are evacuating a plane, do not grab your bags. Nothing. You just get off the plane. Would you have a tough time just leaving your stuff on the plane? I feel like I would grab my bag no matter what they said.

[Ed Helms]

Oh, that's a. I guess it depends

[Adam (Adam Scott)]

how dire the situation is.

[Ed Helms]

What's in your bag, Adam? Is it your hair?

[Guest (possibly Nick Kroll)]

Don't worry about it.

[Ed Helms]

Like, what's going on here? Do we need to talk about this?

[Adam (Adam Scott)]

Ed, take it easy.

[Ed Helms]

I don't want to be without you. Raises additional questions.

[Adam (Adam Scott)]

I guess you're right. Never mind.

[Ed Helms]

Never mind. Moving on. I think I would be pretty okay leaving my bag.

[Adam (Adam Scott)]

Okay.

[Ed Helms]

Yeah. I mean, I like my airpod maxes, and I love my laptop. I kind of would die without it. I don't love it, but I would be in trouble without it. But I would leave it. I would leave it behind. I don't think that makes me a better person than you, Adam. But maybe. Maybe a little.

[Adam (Adam Scott)]

I was just kidding when I said all that about wanting to grab my bag. That wasn't real.

[Ed Helms]

I still think you're a good person.

[Adam (Adam Scott)]

Oh, thank you.

[Ed Helms]

The concrete jungle was basically like a concrete oven. Now, I'm from Georgia, you're from Kentucky. We know a thing or two about heat. But there's something uniquely punishing about New York City. Summer, right? As much as we love New York, like, it gets hard, it's brutal.

[Guest (possibly Adam Scott)]

Cause it's humid. It gets humid more so than you think. And the buildings really trap it all in. So you're just stuck in it. And you can't escape into your air conditioned car very easily. Cause you don't really drive in New York.

[Ed Helms]

So can we talk about the smell? Can we talk a little bit about the smell? It's like the trash is just baking. It's like the trash cans are these little ovens that bake everything. And then of course, anything, any street runoff is like just cooking on the hot asphalt and rising into the humidity.

[Guest (possibly Adam Scott)]

Cooking up a stew.

[Ed Helms]

A city.

[Guest (possibly Adam Scott)]

Yeah, it's been urine. There's even here, where we film at the Daily show in lovely Hell's Kitchen. We're in between a Subway restaurant which has the lovely aroma of baked bread. And on the other side are the horse stables. So it's just horseshit and a little bit of baked bread and then garbage and urine smell from the dog park across the street. Summer over here gets real, real interesting real quick.

[Ed Helms]

It's funny how consistent that smell is. Like every summer it's just like, you know, like that's hot city smell and it's not good. But weirdly, I'm just gonna say it, it's kind of nostalgic now. It's like, it's comforting. It's like fresh cut grass. Like it sort of brings back memories.

[Guest (possibly Adam Scott)]

Maybe we should start an aroma company. Like we should make a candle that has that New York summer smell and we could go out with it. Do you think it would sell?

[Ed Helms]

City summer funk.

[Guest (possibly Adam Scott)]

The funk of City summer funk.

[Ed Helms]

The funk of the city fun.

[Guest (possibly Adam Scott)]

City funk City summer funk.

[Ed Helms]

I think it would sell. I'm not gonna say like hotcakes.

[Guest (possibly Adam Scott)]

I'm just throwing it out there.

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[Guest (female, possibly Ginny Slate)]

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[Guest (child, Nick Kroll's family story)]

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[Ed Helms]

No, I got it. Seriously, I insist. I insisted first.

[Guest (female, possibly Ginny Slate)]

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[Ed Helms]

You don't be silly.

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[Ed Helms]

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[Guest (possibly Chelsea Handler)]

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[Cal (White House Liaison)]

No.

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[Ed Helms]

another kind of trip that I feel like you're an expert in that I I just am not. And I want to know more about. Will you sell me on microdosing hallucinogens?

[Guest (microdosing advocate)]

I just feel like it's, you know what it I the best way to describe it is we just took some lsd, me and my friends, when we went to these ice caves in Pemberton. And I would say the best way to describe it is it puts an exclamation point on whatever experience you're having. So if you're outside, especially if you're in some sort of Cool nature environment. We were in a glacier, in a cave, underneath a glacier. So that was pretty cool. And it just kind of makes you really sit and appreciate whatever experience you're having. It adds a little giggle, too, to the situation, which is always welcome for me. I like to laugh and like to not be, you know, taking myself too seriously, but it's just an accentuation of life, and it kind of makes you have a little bit extra gratitude, which is one of the aspects that I don't think people talk about enough. It makes you really grateful to be exposed to the things that we're exposed to. Even if I go skiing for an afternoon with my girlfriends up here, you know, and if I take a microdose, it's like I spend more time looking at the trees, looking at the view, looking at all the beauty that's surrounding me, rather than just, you know, kind of being in your head. You kind of. It gives you a release. So I feel like the whole world needs a microdose.

[Ed Helms]

I am very interested in this. Now, would you also advocate the occasional macro dose?

[Guest (microdosing advocate)]

I would. I would. It really depends on your personality and how much you can handle. But those years of me and the macrodosing, that was, like, years and years ago. Now I like just a little punch. Like, I like that. I like a little an mdma. They do everything's a microdose now, so you don't have to be scared to do it, you know? And also I would like to say, you know, not everybody gets along so well with drugs. I do. We have a good working relationship, so I know what my limits are. I've done lots and lots of testing, so I know exactly what's gonna work for me and what isn't. And in Canada, they have the cleanest drug, so that's so. Yeah. So I'm a big advocate of that. I think it helps a lot of people and helps people, you know, in more serious ways than it's helping me. And I love sharing my drugs, too. I love giving them away. My whole tour is basically about me traveling around the world, handing out LSD to strangers.

[Ed Helms]

That's so great. You're just. You're like the little.

[Guest (microdosing advocate)]

I'm a Sherpa healer.

[Ed Helms]

You're the Pied Piper of microdosing.

[Guest (microdosing advocate)]

I like to think of myself as a Sherpa. It's unexpected, you know, coming from me, but that's where I'm at in my life.

[Ed Helms]

Just a quick question. You were on the show Survivor.

[Survivor contestant guest]

That's right.

[Ed Helms]

Did you guys at any point on that show. Ever consider eating one another, just like casually as a backup plan?

[Survivor contestant guest]

The truth is, I was only surviving for three nights, which meant I only really missed three dinners. And eating a fellow person doesn't come up after three dinners.

[Ed Helms]

You're already taking this question too seriously,

[Survivor contestant guest]

so it never comes to that. The other thing too is there are coke and coconuts strewn about. Sure, right. You know the exact number of coconuts one might need to survive happen to be randomly distributed by, I think, God.

[Ed Helms]

Oh, yeah. Since 1950, there have somehow been a whopping 32 broken arrow incidents. This includes theft.

[Lowe's Ad Host Female]

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[Guest (commenting on Trump)]

Yeah.

[Ed Helms]

Raising hands.

[Guest (possibly Chelsea Handler)]

What?

[Guest (microdosing advocate)]

32 super DUP nukes.

[Ed Helms]

Super duper nukers.

[Guest (female, possibly Ginny Slate)]

32 nuclear weapons.

[Ed Helms]

Oi, oi, yoy.

[Guest (female, possibly Ginny Slate)]

Now I know why they call it broken arrows. Because when you say, you know what, we have 32 broken arrows, you're like, oh. If you say we have 32 lost nuclear weapons, you're like, wait, stop.

[Cal (White House Liaison)]

What?

[Guest (possibly Adam Scott)]

Say again?

[Ed Helms]

Euphemisms make hard things a lot easier. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.32.

[Guest (microdosing advocate)]

That's why Greg called all of our talking heads candy bags.

[Ed Helms]

I forgot that he said that he

[Guest (microdosing advocate)]

always felt bad giving us pages and

[Ed Helms]

pages of extra monologues. So he was like, I'll name him something fun.

[Guest (microdosing advocate)]

So he named them candy bags.

[Ed Helms]

I loved those. I loved doing those talking heads and coming up with new riffs and the candy bag alts like all the different versions of our talking heads. It was like getting a window into the writers brains. I just remember loving the math of those jokes and always trying to think about how to heighten them. And they would have to kick me out of those talking heads.

[Guest (female, possibly Ginny Slate)]

But to your point, naming all the extra work a candy bag, It's a trick. Definitely made it go down easier. And also calling all our screw ups bloopers makes them sound fun too. Like, oh, that was a blooper. Like, that's just a broken arrow.

[Ed Helms]

I mean, even the word snafu is kind of fun. Snafu, guys, it's just a snafu.

[Guest (possibly Nick Kroll)]

Whoopsie.

[Ed Helms]

Whoopsie doozy. Hey, I'm back. And boy, was that fun. I love this show. Thanks for listening or watching some of our favorite moments from this season. I'll be back next week with the rest of our regular episodes. We got a bunch of folks coming up that I know you're gonna love. I'm not gonna spoil it exactly, but I am gonna give you some big hints. So we have a comedian coming up who makes it weird and a couple of ladies coming up who coined the term Murderino. If you know anything about podcasting, both of those are huge spoilers. And if you don't, well, just stay tuned and enjoy. Keep an ear and or eye out however you tune in. And thanks for being a fan. I'm so glad to have you here. See you next week. Snafu is a production of I Heart Podcasts and Snafu Media, a partnership between Film Nation Entertainment and Pacific Electric Picture Company. Our post production studio is Good Egg Audio. Our executive producers are me, Ed Helms, Mike Falbow, Glenn Basner, Andy Kim and Dylan Fagan. This episode was produced by Alyssa Martino and Tori Smith. Our managing producer is Carl Nellis. Our video editor is Jared Smith. Technical direction and engineering from Nick Dooley. Our creative executive is Brett Harris. Logo and branding by Matt Gossen and the Collected Works Legal review from Dan Welch, Megan Halson and Caroline Johnson. Special thanks to Isaac Dunham, Adam Horne, Lane Klein and everyone at iHeart podcasts, but especially Will Pearson, Kerry Lieberman and Nikki Ator. While I have you, don't forget to pick up a copy of my book snafu the Definitive Guide to History's Greatest Screw Ups. It's available now from any book retailer. Just go to snafu-book.com thanks for listening and see you next week.

[Guest (female, possibly Ginny Slate)]

Wasn't that delicious?

[Guest (possibly Chelsea Handler)]

So good.

[Guest (child, Nick Kroll's family story)]

Your bill, ladies.

[Guest (French accent speaker)]

I got it.

[Ed Helms]

No, I got it.

[Guest (female, possibly Ginny Slate)]

Seriously, I insist.

[Ed Helms]

I assisted first.

[Guest (female, possibly Ginny Slate)]

Don't be silly.

[Ed Helms]

You don't be silly.

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[Ed Helms]

Okay. Rock, paper, scissors for it. Rock, paper, scissors.

[Guest (possibly Chelsea Handler)]

Shoot. No.

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[Guest (female, possibly Ginny Slate)]

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