BONUS: A Most Jewish Goodbye (w/ Zoe Lister-Jones)

Summary

Staying Alive with Jon Gabrus & Adam Pally

BONUS: A Most Jewish Goodbye (w/ Zoe Lister-Jones)

Date: May 12, 2026
Guest: Zoe Lister-Jones
Podcast Network: SmartLess Media

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Overview

This bonus episode—titled "A Most Jewish Goodbye"—features Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally in conversation with actress, writer, and director Zoe Lister-Jones. The trio delivers a candid and often hilarious discussion about creative collaboration, male entitlement, friendship, and the surprisingly complex art of socializing as adults. Through stories from past projects (notably "Band Aid"), experiences of all-female crews, vision quests at the Vegas Sphere, and comically prolonged goodbyes, the episode highlights the intersections of gender, show business, vulnerability, and the enduring importance of just hanging out with friends.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Creative Collaboration & The "Band Aid" Experience

• Reflecting on "Band Aid" and all-female film crews

  • Adam Pally and Zoe Lister-Jones recount the unique environment of their film "Band Aid"—shot with an entirely female crew, even down to truck drivers—with Fred Armisen being the only other man on set.
  • They discuss how the gender makeup created a distinctly different, positive atmosphere.

  "We had this one big day at the end of the shoot that was at a concert hall. And right away, the crew looked at our enormous film crew. All women, not one man. Not even. Like, again, this goes to Zoe's credit. Not even. Like, the drivers of the trucks, all women. No men."
  – Adam Pally (03:05)

• Challenging Gendered Industry Norms

  • An anecdote about a male venue worker attempting to “explain” basic technical concepts to the crew, underscoring persistent assumptions about gender and competence.
  • The group jokes about “toxic femininity,” quickly affirming that it’s “not a thing.”

  "No, no. Women cannot be toxic."
  – Jon Gabrus (02:34)

• Impact on Awareness & Entitlement

  • Adam shares how being in the minority on set made him more aware of unconscious entitlement.
  • Zoe acknowledges the significance of men becoming aware of these feelings, particularly those connected to traditional gender roles.

  "For me, it was awesome. It was just like, oh, I'm not entitled to this space. Like, right. Whereas in a way, especially, like, you know, first Jewish boy, you're like, totally...and then you're like, wait a minute. Things are not right."
  – Adam Pally (07:17)

2. The Quest for Creative Community

• On Wanting to Work with Friends

  • The hosts and Zoe bond over the dream of continually creating with friends, how early improv and comedy groups provide that, and how the entertainment industry can disrupt it.
  • The discussion unpacks how career success eventually enables intentional collaboration with chosen people.

  "Making art with friends is. There's nothing better."
  – Zoe Lister-Jones (10:10)

  "Why'd you get into the industry? It's like, because I thought I would be, like, one of the Will Ferrell guys...making...An ensemble where I'm like, we're all funny. We're making. And then UCB gives you that in a way where you're like, now I'm collaborating with friends. This is the dream."
  – Jon Gabrus (10:16)

• Defining Friendship Beyond Work

  • Adam admits he often conflates friendship with working relationships, seeking professional validation as a stand-in for personal connection.
  • There’s open conversation about moving towards valuing non-work-based friendships.

  "I'm trying to learn how to just be like, me and my friends, because I define so much of my friendships through work..."
  – Adam Pally (10:56)

3. Rediscovering Adult Social Lives

• The Work vs. Play Paradox

  • The group comments on the inertia that keeps adults from socializing outside of professional contexts.
  • Gabrus reveals he’s been purposely scheduling friend outings, likening his initiative to "camp counselor energy".

  "My social calendar is up to me...if it's not for work, it doesn't count. Like you're being unproductive. But then you leave after watching a movie with a friend at their house and you're like, that was a dream come true."
  – Jon Gabrus (14:05)

4. Concerts, Vision Quests & The Sphere

• On Going Out Alone (and Together)

  • The hosts discuss making time for themselves, sometimes even attending concerts solo and engaging in vision quests (with mushrooms or other substances).
  • The Sphere in Las Vegas is a recurring subject, with each sharing memorable experiences from recent concerts—from Backstreet Boys to Fish to the Eagles.

  "I'm gonna go see Fish at the Sphere next weekend. Even if I have to go alone, I'm gonna go."
  – Adam Pally (16:18)

  "I saw the Eagles at the Sphere and I don't even love the Eagles anything. It doesn't matter. The Sphere is the experience."
  – Jon Gabrus (16:34)

• On Generational Shifts at Shows

  • Jokes about being the "old guy" at concerts—sometimes for a 75-year-old artist—highlighting how music connects generations.

  "I was like the oldest person at a 75 year old guy's concert, which was really crazy."
  – Jon Gabrus (15:51)

5. Celebrity, Wealth, and Responsibility

• On Celebrity Mishaps and Car Culture

  • The group uses recent headlines (Billy Joel, Justin Timberlake, Tiger Woods) to riff about risky behavior, celebrity privilege, and the lack of practical solutions ("there should be a company" for driving celebrities' luxury cars home).
  • Comedic speculation about why celebrities get into trouble with things like DUIs—tying it back to masculinity and visibility.

  "They never breathalyzed him [Billy Joel] is what it was. Because he's the king of Long Island. No. Suffolk County PD is not going to lock because his car's upside down.
  – Jon Gabrus (22:14)

6. Jewish Goodbyes & The Art of Not Leaving

• The Extended Send-Off

  • The episode’s title is paid off as the group knowingly drags out Zoe’s goodbye with jokes about cultural clichés in long goodbyes. The conversation humorously unpacks "Jewish," "Italian," and other forms of prolonged farewells.

  "I can't believe we said goodbye to Zoe an hour ago."
  – Jon Gabrus (24:23)

  "This is the most Jewish goodbye."
  – Zoe Lister-Jones (24:26)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On male presence on a female-led set:

  "It was like black and white...you could just see how a man who feels less than. Because he. I think that's what it was...feeling threatened..."
  – Adam Pally (05:03)

• On redefining friendship and work:

  "I think to combat that, as I've grown older and lonelier and want people, is that I've...tried to use my work as a way to keep the people I love totally with me and around me."
  – Adam Pally (09:37)

• On adult social lives:

  "I'm not waiting around for, you know, you, Warner Brothers discovery Raytheon to...put me and my friends in an indie together. It's like up to me..."
  – Jon Gabrus (14:42)

• On generational concert crowds:

  "Also, young people are tall. I don't. I think they're getting better nutrients than we got."
  – Jon Gabrus (15:51)

• On classic long goodbyes:

  "The pally goodbye is when you fall asleep on the couch. And it could happen from the person saying goodbye or the person that is being goodbyed."
  – Adam Pally (24:40)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:13] Zoe Lister-Jones introduction
• [01:22 – 06:00] "Band Aid"/All-female crew stories; gender in film work
• [06:42 – 08:39] The entitlement and awareness men experience in new contexts
• [08:39 – 11:24] Work vs. personal relationships; seeking out collaboration with friends
• [13:15 – 14:41] Gabrus on actively planning social gatherings, redefining what counts as meaningful time
• [15:07 – 17:39] Psychedelic concerts & the Sphere; solo adventures and vision quests
• [19:39 – 21:40] How big acts (like Billy Joel, Eagles) adapt to new concert technologies
• [22:14 – 23:33] Riffing on celebrity driving mishaps & privilege
• [24:23 – 24:47] "A Most Jewish Goodbye"—the art of never-ending send-offs

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Conclusion

"A Most Jewish Goodbye" is less an interview and more an extended, witty, deeply honest hang between industry friends. The episode covers not just stories from their creative past but reveals the hosts’ ongoing struggles—with identity, friendship, and adulthood—through sharp banter and genuine vulnerability. Whether discussing gender dynamics, the paradoxes of creative ambition, middle-age music fandom, or simply the inability to say goodbye, the episode is packed with relatable observations for anyone who’s ever tried to balance work, friendship, and the awkward joy of lingering just a little too long.

Transcript

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Thanks for having me.

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Holy shit. I can't believe I remembered both.

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Where is. Is Band Aid bandied?

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You can rent.

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You can rent.

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I love that movie, by the way. I tell Adam this all the time. I think it's one of your best roles for sure. And it's a. And it's a great, great movie.

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A lot of people tell me it's one of my best.

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Yeah, it was. It was really.

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It was.

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To me. It really was.

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Dang. Yeah. I think about the making of that movie often when I'm on. When I'm on a different thing. Yeah. Because you had no money. You had no. You had nothing. But it was. Felt like a giant studio movie and professionalism, you know, like everything felt.

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Yeah.

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Except the fact that we had no

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money and no man and.

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No. But that. I think that was very.

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That was part of it.

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Part of it.

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Yeah.

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Because there was no just you and Fred.

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Yeah.

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Was just me and Fred and then all women. Which is like how I prefer to be anyway. But then. And I.

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That's what I search.

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Yeah.

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That's what I Google.

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But I remember the one moment.

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The.

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Remember the one moment where a man showed up and. And I like flipped out at him because I had been so. It was cuz. It was like we had had no men, dude. Like it was an all female crew for a month.

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I had toxic femininity.

[D]

No it was like, it doesn't work like that.

[B]

No, no. Women cannot be toxic.

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It was truly. It was like a. A moment because I. I had not. I'd been the only man for, like, 30 days. And it was talked about a lot. Everybody was talking about how the set felt good and the reasons for it. So you start to, like, pick up on all the things you didn't think of before when you're, like, surrounded by women. And we had this one big day at the end of the shoot that was at a concert hall. And.

[C]

Oh, my God, that's right.

[D]

And we were dealing with the crew of the concert hall. And right away, the crew looked at our enormous film crew. All women, not one man. Not even. Like, again, this goes to Zoe's credit. Not even. Like, the drivers of the trucks, all women. No men. And they looked at the crew and was like, I'm going to have to tell them how to screw in.

[C]

Totally. And they did.

[D]

And they did. And from the moment the doors opened, these men whose job it was, was to just open the door. That's all they were there for, was to open the door to the venue. Were walking around in during shooting being like, the reason that you can't plug that in is because you got an XLR running. Huh. So maybe you could tell sweetie over there to put that, like, no, these

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broads are gonna need some advice. I gotta get out there and tell them how to do everything.

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Truly. And it was like, the one time I was ever. And we were doing a scene, and this guy. A male voice out of, like, the darkness, while you and I were doing a dramatic scene.

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Yeah.

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Goes Denna.

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Miked.

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Oh, my God. I forgot about.

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Oh, my God. And, like, I was like, is that Fred? Because I hadn't heard a man's voice right in, like. And it's the fucking guy that owns it. He's at the back of a room full of extras. That must have been our most expensive day by far.

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Yeah.

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Screaming that we're not mic'd.

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Yeah.

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Because he can't hear us. And so I screamed back, it's a movie. Fucking idiot. It's a movie. And, like, I don't think any of the women had heard me.

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No. No.

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Never at all. And the dude looked at me like, I never yelled at anybody. Like, where they got like, what? And he didn't really understand, I don't think, what I was saying. Because he walked up. Yeah.

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No, I think he has a few layers of not understanding going on with this guy.

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I was so pissed.

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Yeah.

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At that guy.

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Yeah.

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And I would never have done that if I didn't work on that movie.

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Yeah, right. No, because it was such a stark contrast.

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It was like black and white.

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Yeah.

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Like, you could just see how a man who feels less than. Because he. I think that's what it was.

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Yeah. It's like being Feeling threatened or just

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threatened or even, like, there's all these women that I'm not allowed. For some reason, I'm not involved.

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Right, right.

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Like, and clearly, it's a. It's a thing.

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Yeah.

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Right. Because when you and Natalia roll up, it's like, with our crew, it's like, that's. You can tell, obviously, that there's no men around.

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Yes.

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So I think they felt like, why aren't I. Why aren't there men around?

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Yeah. Why am I not invited?

[D]

Why am I not invited? Why aren't any men invited? What is this?

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Well, that's like a masculine. A terrible masculine trait. It's just like, well, I should be part of something if it's happening.

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Right.

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Like, truly, it's just like. Oh, totally. Like. Like, the way men watch is like, well, if I. I should be playing. You're like, for real.

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Calling the team. We. It's like, well, you know, we lost another guy.

[C]

Yeah, that's so true.

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Yeah. It's like, men. Men are just like. Well, I'm part of. Like, you watch a war, I can't stop it. You watch a war movie, you'll be like, I'd survive. Like, my toxic trait is always that. They're like, what if the cartel comes? I'm like, they'll love me. I truly, like, I believe that, like, you know how men are. Like, another man was mauled by a bear because he thought he could communicate with it. Like, that's. That's what. That's men shit is like, for real. It's just like. Well, of course, as a bear, I'm also the alpha of my household.

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Yeah.

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Where my. My wife, who's 14 years younger than me, and I have my two kids. I'm the alpha there.

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Thank God you're a man bear. We can communicate.

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Just getting your fucking head immediately ripped off.

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Yeah. An invincibility complex, right?

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Yeah, for sure. And it's like, I belong everywhere because I'm the default. I'm GI Joe. I'm the man.

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But it's really. And then you make a movie with Zoe, and you're like, I don't belong anywhere. No, no, no, in a good way. No, in a good way. Where you're like, where you're like, there's no place I should.

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You don't deserve.

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Yeah, I don't deserve this.

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Entitled to title.

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That's what I'm saying.

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It's like, you don't. You learn. It was. For me, it was awesome. It was just like, oh, I'm not entitled to this space. Like, right. Whereas in a way, especially, like, you know, first Jewish boy, you're like, totally. You know, like, yeah, just like walking through life.

[C]

Totally.

[D]

You know, and then you're like, wait a minute. Things are not right.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, that's what that movie was like.

[C]

Yeah, no, it was so. It was actually one of my favorite things was witnessing you sort of like, witness it, you know, because you were. You were talking a lot about your daughter, and there was just. Yeah, it was just a very moving thing.

[D]

It's awesome. I would love. I mean, I would kill.

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I didn't even know about the all lady crew and the fucking movie rips.

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It rips. And a lot of people, I have been saying, like, we need a band aid too. We need the C for sure. I know. And we should.

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We should.

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Several ideas.

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I know. We should do it. I mean, especially now with your burgeoning music career.

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The most Adam shit ever. And I know because I've told you multiple times, we should do it again. This guy's like a fucking font of business ideas. I can't sit down, do a podcast where he's like, shouldn't we also.

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But the thing about Pali is, like, you are a font of business ideas, but then you execute.

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Well, he doesn't.

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That's what's crazy. The terrible version of that is just like, so many ideas never execute.

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Right?

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Yeah. It's like, yes, There's a version of me that is like cocaine on Sunday at 3:00am you know, where it's like, we don't want to hear about the app, you know, like that. And I know that. I know that about myself, but.

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Adavan Pally.

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But Atavan Pally. Controlled Valley. No. I've been talking about this a little bit in therapy as a negative, but I think there is a positive to it as well. But I'm trying more to do it, but I. I think it comes from. From moving around a lot as a kid and not having, like, stable friendships and stuff because you were always. It was like, don't get comfortable in this school because you're gonna move. Don't get comfortable. So you. You just have to, like, you and you ingratiate yourselves with all these people, and then you can keep them in your life, but they're not. You know, they're just, like, on. They're in the ether, you know? And then what I. I think to combat that, as I've grown older and lonelier and want people, is that I've. I tried to use my work as a way to keep the people I love totally with me and around me.

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Yeah.

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And so it's like. So I'll. You know, we do things all the time because I'm like, I want to, you know, keep that. And the way that I can relate to you in that is not just having dinner, but, like, also, like, maybe we should get in a bunker together and, like, go to war again. That was so fun. You know, it's like. And I'm working on. I'm trying to get better at just being your friend, and I. I'm getting better at it, but it's like. It's a slow crawl.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Well, making a movie with you is a treat, but so is going to dinner.

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Yeah, totally. But making art with friends is. There's nothing better.

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It's so all I want to do.

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Yeah, me too.

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All the time.

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It's like, what. You know, when people like, why'd you get into the industry? It's like, because I thought I would be, like, one of the Will Ferrell guys. You know what I mean? Like, I'd be part of, like, an ensemble where I'm like, we're all funny. We're making. And then UCB gives you that in a way where you're like, now I'm collaborating with friends. This is the dream. And then eventually you go off and you're like, okay, it's. You don't get to choose this for a long time. And then you realize at some point in your career, you either get powerful enough that you can make those choices.

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Yeah.

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And you're just like, yes, it's. This is. Or you get to a point where you go, well, this is what I want to do. And so I'll take whatever level of success comes with it, but this is how I want to do it. I want me and my friends making stuff.

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Yeah. And I think that. And then on the other side of it, I think I'm trying to learn how to just be like, me and my friends, because I define so much of my friendships through, like, work or, like, do you like me? Will you work with me? And, like, you know, and if you will, then, yeah, we can hang out after.

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Right.

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But if you don't, then, like, you don't with me. And you don't respect me.

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Right? Right.

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You don't think I'm funny or you don't think I'm good, or you don't think that I'm. Whatever. So then like, I don't want. I don't want to eat dinner with you anyway.

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I do not work enough to hold people to that because I'm like. Everyone must hate me. I know you like me because.

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No, But I kind of feel that way. Yeah. I mean, that's like the deep. Right?

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Totally.

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Well, I've. I've had to for reasons we'll eventually talk about on the pod, but I've had to really take a look at how to be social and like it's been a very beautiful year of like just doing things with friends. Of just being like, hey, I remember you said you kind of want to go to this museum. What about next Friday? Like, you know, I'm the guy who's now I don't have the get up and go anything. Like I'm the least productive person ever. I do not care. I don't. I'm not a hardworking guy. But I will be like, hey, you mentioned this. I'm. I took the next three steps. I got us tickets. Can you go to when I'm buying concert tickets without getting approval from someone and just being like, hey, next Friday I got tickets. Do you want to come? No. Okay, great. Like you like?

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Yeah, that's. But that's an amazing friend. Not all friends are as like proactive.

[B]

Well, that's. I've always been a little bit like that. I've been called camp counselor energy for that reason. Because I'm trying to make people have fun all the time. But now in the recent, I'm like, fuck, it's up. My social calendar is up to me. You know what I mean? And then like every time I hang out with a friend and they're always like, man, how come we never do this? And you're like, cuz we're in our own. I'm childless. Like, I have like no responsibilities. I should be doing whatever the I want. But you get caught up in the like, if it's not for work, it doesn't count. Like you're being unproductive. But then you leave after watching a movie with a friend at their house and you're like, that was a dream come true.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's like, I'm not waiting around for, you know, you, Warner Brothers discovery Raytheon to pick put me and my friends in an indie together. It's like up to me to just be like it. We're going see Takanaka at the Hollywood Palladium. Great show, by the way. It was awesome. Yeah. Masayoshi Takanaka is like a 70 something year old Japanese guitarist. And he's amazing. It's so amazing.

[D]

And he dances, right?

[B]

He does a little bit of dancing. He does stunt guitars. He has, he has this giant surfboard guitar that he like exercised so he could, he trained so he could use it on tour. He's so great. But I think he's popular on Tik Tok and Instagram because I'm used to being an old guy at shows, but people are usually my age because it's like, oh, I'm at LCD Sound system. Everyone's in there, everyone's got cool black jackets. And then it's like when you go to this. I was like the oldest person at a 75 year old guy's concert, which was really crazy. Yeah, it was cool. It was cool to watch young people vibing positively to cool stuff like that. I mean, I was on mushrooms, so I was crying.

[D]

They must have loved you. Hey. Hagrid is freaking out.

[B]

Also, young people are tall. I don't. I think they're getting the better nutrients than we got.

[D]

Really? Yeah.

[B]

I think on average, yeah. I. I'm usually fine at a concert, at a General Ga concert. And I was like being like, these young people. Be tall, dude.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I'm going to go this weekend just because I. I have been told I need to do. Do things in the next couple weeks, like for myself. I have to take care of myself. And so I find myself here with no family for a week.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I'm gonna go see Fish at the Sphere next weekend.

[B]

No. So awesome. So jealous.

[D]

Even if I have to go alone, I'm gonna go.

[C]

That's sick. Have you seen anything at the Sphere? No, I went to see the Backstreet Boys.

[D]

What was good? Did they raise up? Did they go up really high?

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

Really?

[C]

It was unbelievable.

[B]

I. I saw the Eagles at the Sphere and I don't even love the Eagles anything. It doesn't matter. The Sphere is the experience.

[D]

I mean, I've seen Fish is gonna be crazy. I've seen them probably 60 times.

[B]

I don't even like them. And I wanna.

[C]

It's gonna be so psychedelic.

[D]

I know. That's why, like I'm. I'm trying to find a friend to go with me because I know I'm going to engage with the plant and I don't. The last time I was in Vegas engaging with the plant, I was alone.

[C]

No.

[D]

And I. It was great. Yeah. I would. I would. I would much prefer to be like in a. Like, hey, this is co. Engaging.

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Like.

[D]

Yeah. Co Engaging. At least someone there. Because I could also see myself being like, hey, this is great. To a stranger.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Who's like, what?

[C]

And I'm like, but by the way, everyone's going to be engaging.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

But Plant there.

[D]

I. Yes.

[B]

But I was deep on the fungus and they switched like the perspective of the sphere and I grabbed onto the railing because I thought I was going to fall onto the stage. Like it shifted in a way that I was like, oh. And like nothing moved.

[C]

No.

[B]

It's like.

[D]

Yeah, I got to go it might have to be like a solo, like, vision quest. I could use one, I guess. Yeah. I haven't done one in a while.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

But usually I just end up eating a lot. Like, my vision quests start strong and they end in like the assassination attempt of Harvey Mill.

[B]

When I walk into Funky Town with. When I walk into Funky Town with Zoe, I get applause. But if I walk into a Vegas buffet, they start thinking about getting the tranq gun out to dart me because they're like, we're gonna lose money. They see me over by the crab legs and they're like, we gotta get this human sea lion back in the water.

[D]

Also, like, my vision quest would like my like solo vision quest to fish at the sphere would be like super bougie. I'd have like a room at the wind.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

And then I would be like, put on a backpack and be like, oh, I'm roughing the walk. Like, walk to the thing and be like on mushrooms.

[A]

Like, oh, God.

[D]

Really climbed Everest there. And then see this luxury, amazing show. Walk back and be like, oh, look, the thousand dollar restaurant's still open. Correct. Because it's Vegas. And then I go in there and

[B]

I'm like, oh my God.

[D]

I'm really learning about myself.

[B]

Like, oh, high roller blackjack. Yeah.

[D]

Oh, I guess it's like a gamble

[B]

for a little bit.

[D]

Then I go to that. I'm like, oh, this vision quest. I'm really deep in it. I should write a. I should write a movie. Like the real. It's just then I come back, like, how is your vision quest? Like, I'm down $4,500.

[B]

God, I want to see Backstreet Boys there. That must have been awesome.

[C]

It was religious. Yeah, it was really religious.

[D]

How many, how many songs are they? Like, how long was was felt?

[C]

It felt long.

[D]

See, that's. That is a Backstreet Boys problem though, right?

[C]

I think it might be. This is my first Backstreet Boys concert.

[D]

I would say they don't have the touring following.

[C]

This was packed and everyone wore white, so it really felt like church.

[D]

Or did they tell you to do that?

[B]

Yeah, I saw, I saw photos. I saw photos from people's Backstreet Boys trips and I was like, I need to get my 45 year old ass over there ASAP. It's just like thousands of women in

[C]

all white, like, like baby Ds or all like in our 90s dreams.

[D]

Are they playing this weekend?

[C]

I know that's a different vision.

[D]

It's probably more my vision. That one. I that one I kind of grew. I've seen Fish.

[B]

I don't even know. The Eagles have so many bangers that you're like, I don't really know their music. And then all of a sudden you're like on song 20 and you're like, oh, I do also know this one.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, it's.

[B]

And they were doing some Joe Walsh solo stuff and. And they did Boys of Summer, Don Henley solo stuff, which was cool.

[D]

That's good. Yeah. I wonder how Fish works, cuz their catalog's so huge and they don't play the same thing every night. Like, do the videos. Do they have just like unlimited videos?

[B]

No, they most likely have a Hard Sphere set list or they have a couple of videos that were like, don't worry about syncing them because that's the issue. That's why every group has to do more than one Sphere show. Because they make that. It's like one company, one production company makes the imagery for that. And so it costs. It's such a high buy in to get that made that you don't make your money back until you've done it a few times. So it's like, that's what. Like you can't really do a one off. Like a tour. Can't go like. And then we're doing the Sphere. I mean, maybe some big names, but that's why everyone ends up doing multiple days, right? Because like building that all is like a huge cost, you know, Big cost.

[D]

It does start to like lend itself oddly. The more mains, like the more mainstream you go with it. The. The venue does seem to like get in the way almost. Or like be like a. Because like what? You know, like James. James Taylor at the Sphere.

[B]

He's not gonna do it.

[D]

Yeah, like Billy Joel at the Sphere. Seems weird. It would just be like weird. But it would be like these g. Like just in a giant Italian restaurant. Like, it would be like.

[B]

Well, you'd be surprised. You'd be surprised.

[C]

Like spaghetti.

[D]

Spaghetti, yeah. Like bottle of red being poured, bottle white. Like what? It's not. It's not that one motorcycle being revved.

[B]

But like in like for example in the Eagles, like in the city, it was like whipping through brownstones and stuff. But then there was one where it was just like bubbles flying around with the different performers heads in them and stuff like that. So I do think there's like. It's not.

[D]

There's like.

[C]

The assignment is it's not music videos.

[B]

It's not music.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

They're not acting out every song. I mean, Billy Joel just happens to have enough songs that you could truly just act out.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

As my. He's one of my favorites of all time as a Long Islander, but his music has no poetry or metaphor whatsoever. It is one to one. He's like, we're driving a motorcycle down Sunrise Highway. I'm drunk.

[D]

That's what Bruce said about him in the documentary.

[C]

Yeah, I didn't see it.

[B]

Oh, dude, I have to see it. Highly recommend watching it. Two parts. Beautiful.

[D]

They. They, they. Two things wrong with it. They gloss over his drunk driving. They. They go like. And then he was in a car accident.

[B]

Well, they say he was in a car accident. And he goes, I was in a car accident, but I wasn't drunk. And they were like. They never breathalyzed him is what it was. Because he's the king of Long Island. No. Suffolk County PD is not going to lock because his car's upside down on his.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Talking lawn.

[D]

Yet. Yet. Poor Justin Timberlake.

[C]

To say that whoever that publicist was being like, don't, you know.

[D]

Fired. Fired in the video. This is going to ruin the tour. Fired. Fired. Where was she that weekend?

[C]

What?

[D]

Yeah, like, they couldn't get a hold of Justin Timberlake's publicist.

[B]

How do you not get to a certain level of wealth and just be like, I have a guy or a person that I can call that gets dropped off and drives my car home. Like Tiger Woods. Everyone driving thing is ridiculous.

[D]

Yeah, that's a crazy. That's. That's a death wish thing. I think that's like. That's like a subconscious, like, oh, I'm okay to die tonight.

[B]

Like, your agent.

[C]

Totally.

[B]

Someone's agent should be like, dog, we have someone here at UTA that you can just call and they get you a driver. Like, never drink and drive.

[D]

There are Ubers in the Hamptons.

[B]

Like, yeah, there are Ubers.

[D]

There are Ubers.

[B]

And like. But I'm saying for guys, like, there

[C]

should be a company.

[B]

I'm thinking the reason this all starts is because.

[D]

No wonder you think about business, pal. You're pitching Uber.

[B]

Well, they drive their Lotus to the bar.

[D]

You know what I mean?

[B]

Like, they want to be in their baller. That's what I think.

[C]

Someone drives it home.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And I think that is what happened. Especially knowing the place he got grabbed from. Because he got grabbed from the hotel on. In Sag Harbor.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Which is, like, fancy, but relatively low key. Which means that he was meeting someone there and he pulled up in a fucking hot rod.

[C]

Right?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And some young cop was like, that don't look right.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

And then the crazy thing was when the guy goes, I'm Justin Timberlake, and the cops, like young cops, like, I don't give a fuck who you are. It's like, whoa.

[B]

Really?

[C]

I know.

[D]

We don't get a little more than that.

[B]

Justin timberlake, also a January 31st guy.

[D]

I thought you were gonna say six.

[B]

Also big January 6th guy. Like me and Timberlake.

[D]

Are you both coming out as it right now?

[B]

I can't believe we said goodbye to Zoe an hour ago.

[C]

This is the most Jewish goodbye.

[B]

Because we know what the Irish goodbye is. You leave without saying goodbye. Anyone. The Italian goodbye is you say goodbye to everyone that you realize you're back at the beginning and you start it over again.

[C]

Oh, that's very Jewish.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Well, we have. There's a lot of overlap there.

[D]

The pally goodbye is when you fall asleep on the couch. And it could happen from the person saying goodbye or the person that is being goodbyed.

[B]

The gay, brisk goodbye is he's in a rush to get out because the postmates is going to be arriving at home at a certain time. He's going to land at the same time as his cheesy gordita crunch.

[D]

Thanks for being here, zl.

[C]

Thanks for having me.

[D]

I love you.

[B]

What a treat. Thank you so much. You have been listening to Staying Alive with John Gabris and Adam Pali. A smartless media production in association with Sirius xm.

[D]

Produced by Devin Tory Bryant and Anne Harris. Engineered and edited by Devin Tory Bryant, who also wrote the music.

[B]

Associate producer and video producer is Matty McCann, social media producer Tommy Galgano, assistant engineer Kyle McGraw.

[D]

Special thanks to Jared O' Connell at SiriusXM.

[B]

Executive producers are John Gabris.

[D]

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[B]

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[D]

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[B]

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[D]

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