
In this bonus clip from Staying Alive, guest Blair Socci used to read all the time for pleasure, but now she just can’t focus. This relatable topic leads to her explaining the last several years of Bravo’s Summer House in quite some detail, and eventually to an airing of grievances with that notorious TERF JK Rowling. Follow Blair @blairsocci Blair’s OnlyFeet HERE Check out her podcast Spaced Out with Blair Socci Full video episodes available HERE. Check out Staying Alive merch at siriusxmstore.com/stayingalive This episode was recorded April 27 at Forever Dog in Los Angeles CA Special thanks to Brett Boham Staying Alive is produced by Devon Torrey Bryant and Anne Harris Engineered and edited by Devon Torrey Bryant, who also wrote the music Associate producer and video editor is Maddie McCann Executive produced by Jon Gabrus, Adam Pally, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Bernie Kaminski, and Rich Korson
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Jason Bateman
Bonus clip.
Sean Hayes
I have one more question for you guys. Sorry. Because I know it's your job to lead your show.
Jason Bateman
Well, you have no idea how much we'd rather you just ask.
Sean Hayes
But I just.
Will Arnett
This is, this is so nice.
Sean Hayes
Like, would use as two successful men with a lot of money. Would you. How like imprisoned by screen time. How much of your day does that take up?
Jason Bateman
It's bad for me. I'm really fighting.
Will Arnett
I'm not good at it. I'm getting better at it because I. Well, I prefer like work when I'm at work. I'm very good about it.
Sean Hayes
Yeah. Because you have something to be present for.
Will Arnett
But even on like, I, I was noticed on my last job, I was way better about it than I was on the one before that. I would be like, I'm gonna leave this in my easy up before I go to set. Yeah, you're going.
Jason Bateman
Tarantino rules. You're going.
Will Arnett
Or just like mini. Or just like minis.
Sean Hayes
I love that though.
Will Arnett
So then I'd go to set. But then, but then there. Then it's like, okay, that when you're done with set, you got to go back to your easy up.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Will Arnett
I would sit in my chair and like, you know, kind of scroll sometimes if I wasn't working on something.
Sean Hayes
Okay.
Will Arnett
And so like that and that. But that could be anywhere from like five minutes, like an hour and a half, two hours.
Sean Hayes
Right.
Will Arnett
And you don't know, you know, you're just like sitting in an airport.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Will Arnett
So I don't travel.
Sean Hayes
Days are the worst for me.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
I'm struggling. I'm struggling, I'm struggling.
Sean Hayes
I hate it because my whole life, like I always did. But I'm so glad I didn't grow up with screens because all I did was read or be outside. And now I never read. Like, I'll buy pre order books, full price, $30 hardcover, and then just put on my audiobook on Spotify.
Will Arnett
But isn't that okay? Like, isn't listening? I. I think listening to books is okay. Like, I think you're getting. As long as you're here as. I mean, it's not the same as like reading the same. The line. But oftentimes when I'm reading because of my learning disabilities, I. It takes me longer to understand the book because I'm reading it backwards or you know. You know what I mean? Or like, whatever. So I, I have, I feel like an audio book. It's really just about getting that information into your skull, you know?
Sean Hayes
Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm Glad I have that option as an alternative. But, like, I do. I'm just. I feel. It feels pathetic that I spent my whole life that was like my main thing besides sports was reading. And now for me, like, I went to graduate school to become a novelist and now I cannot sit and open a book. Like, I can't make myself. I have no attention span because I'm so used to, like, the immediacy of, like, our digital, you know, addiction.
Jason Bateman
I'm like a. I'm a very fast and good reader. I could read so fast and then I'm fighting so hard. I promised myself in 2026 I'd read one book a month.
Sean Hayes
Same with me.
Jason Bateman
We're in mid April and I have read three, so I'm a little behind.
Sean Hayes
I haven't read. I've listened, but I haven't read. And the deal was red.
Jason Bateman
I can do. I do both because I really listen to a lot of audiobooks. I really like it. But I do find the information processes a little bit harder. And when I'm reading. Non. I'm sorry. When I'm reading fiction, I get a little more caught up in the story when I'm reading it over listening to it.
Sean Hayes
Ye.
Jason Bateman
Because listening to it ends up being like, while I'm driving or I'm rarely. I guess what I'm struggling with too is like, the reason I'm pursuing reading so much is because it's putting me down in one place and I'm losing the phone from it.
Will Arnett
Right.
Sean Hayes
That's the point.
Jason Bateman
So when I do audiobook, I'm listening to my audiobook while I drive or while I work out or while I go for a walk, which is good. I never am like, ah, let me just lay back on the couch, put my noise canceling headphones on, and listen to a book, which is, I think, something I should be doing.
Will Arnett
I do that sometimes. Yeah, I do do that sometimes. Like, I'll put on my book because I also don't think there's much going on on television. Like, there's not much pulling me in any other direction anymore.
Jason Bateman
Right.
Will Arnett
Like, an audiobook is just as exciting to me as a $400 million Netflix movie. So it's like sometimes I will just sit and listen to a podcast or I mean, to an audiobook.
Sean Hayes
You guys aren't caught up with Summer House Scandal?
Jason Bateman
No, that's not.
Sean Hayes
Oh, you're really. You're not embroiled in it every second of the day?
Will Arnett
No. Explain it to me sort of thing.
Jason Bateman
But if you want to talk you, we'd be down to hear it.
Sean Hayes
Okay, well, basically. And look, take this with a grain of salt because I skipped like seven seasons in between, but the last two seasons.
Will Arnett
So we're definitely not getting this from an expert. You are getting it from an expert.
Sean Hayes
Chronically online bitch.
Jason Bateman
I hope you're like, you're not completely caught up in it like me. Well, because I skipped seven seasons,
Sean Hayes
but when I'm in, I'm in. This is like a scandal thing. And so basically the hottest, most accomplished, smartest woman on Bravo, her name Sierra. She's like this gorgeous, gorgeous, accomplished woman. Used to be a nurse, summer house. And so she. Then she dated this little weasel, west, who's like this fun little party guy, you know, blonde, that problems already. Red flag.
Will Arnett
And then I dyed my son's hair.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, yeah, good. And so basically he spends his whole season trying to convince this girl that a million. Way out of his league. I'm talking fucking light years. And then finally at the end of the summer, like, she consent. She's like, fine, you know, okay. Then they get together and then he's like, psych. You know, like, I'm not really ready to settle down. And everyone's like, are you fudgeing you? You got close to touching God and you're such an idiot. You fog this up. And then of course, the. All the Bravo viewership turned on him. Like, who do you think you are? You know? So then anyways, Amanda, who's her best friend, is married to Kyle, who is a 44 year old now becoming a DJ and like this horrible relationship. Hate each other the whole time and then end up getting divorced. And the whole time then we find out the beginning of the season that after Amanda and Kyle have been comforting Sierra because she was so hurt by Wes fucking her over after he chased her for so long, that Amanda and West are now dating. And it has really just caused. I mean, it has sent shockwaves through the Bravo universe.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, I'm really affected by this.
Will Arnett
Blown away. I need a minute.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to come in here and blow the doors open at Forever Dog.
Jason Bateman
I haven't been this up since I learned Fisher Stevens wasn't Indian.
Sean Hayes
Really? Or how about when? Okay, okay.
Jason Bateman
I literally was trying to be like, when was the last time. I'm trying to make a simile of when I was. My mind was blown and I'm like. To be honest, it was when I.
Sean Hayes
No, that was a really good poll. Or how about when we found out that Andre Agassi's hair was a toupee
Jason Bateman
wig and it was affecting his tennis game. So hot underneath there.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Will Arnett
So crazy.
Sean Hayes
I love that it was about hot and not about his entire identity being revealed during like match point or something. Flying off and then. And not to top that, you know, I don't want to top anything. But today it came out that Michelle, recently divorced from little demon Jesse, is dating from the Valley, is now dating Dr. Dre. And I just. I don't know how those two would have ever even.
Will Arnett
The Dr. Dre?
Sean Hayes
The Dr. Dre.
Will Arnett
My.
Jason Bateman
My proctologist.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, your proctologist. Dr. Dre. Michelle from the Valley.
Jason Bateman
I know you're bobbing your head, so
Sean Hayes
I don't know how she even.
Will Arnett
I'm gonna prescribe you the chronic, doc.
Jason Bateman
I've tried it.
Will Arnett
Well, have you tried the Chronic 2001?
Sean Hayes
It's a great album.
Will Arnett
I suggest taking this three times a day.
Sean Hayes
Generational.
Jason Bateman
So whose side should we be on if we're talking to any Sierra, obviously, if you're. I'm pro nurse. Anyway, my mom and brother and sister in law are all nurse, anything nurse.
Will Arnett
Anything nurse. I'm proud.
Sean Hayes
That's really great to know that you're a pro nurse. Yeah. No, if you're out in these streets talking to the gals.
Will Arnett
I've met a couple anti nurses. There's a big anti nurse movement out there which.
Jason Bateman
Hey, what's up?
Will Arnett
Don't agree with. Don't agree with.
Jason Bateman
I'm pro nurse. I tell ladies all the time, I'm pro nurse. Hey, sweetheart.
Sean Hayes
Hey, what's up, West? And then they just flash you.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, I got. I got to know things like that.
Will Arnett
All these saying nurses. Ain't it it wrong now?
Sean Hayes
Amanda Rally fucked up the sisterhood and you know Sierra is going to have the Ariana Maddox redemption arc career she's already going to be on.
Will Arnett
Yeah, that Ariana Manix hit a wall though.
Sean Hayes
You think? Not if you watch Love island, baby.
Will Arnett
I guess so. Yeah, I guess. I don't know.
Jason Bateman
Actually, maybe this question will help clarify.
Sean Hayes
Sure.
Jason Bateman
What's Summer House?
Sean Hayes
It's sort of like this show on Bravo that's about 10 years.
Will Arnett
It's been 10 years.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
It's about a group of friends.
Sean Hayes
It's about a group of friends that drive out every weekend for the summer to a Hampton share house from the city it birthed Hannah Burner, Paige Desorbo. Other people like that.
Jason Bateman
Okay, cool.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, there's a man on there opening a sober bar that we're all pulling For. But worry because his. His lease for his building is $20,000 a month, and I don't think that's a good business decision.
Jason Bateman
But that's gonna be something expensive. Shrub.
Will Arnett
So I was gonna say, I spend a lot of time out there. I am not gonna go to that place.
Sean Hayes
No, it's not in the Hamptons.
Will Arnett
Well, wherever it is, it's in Brooklyn. I spent a lot of time there.
Sean Hayes
See? You win, Carl. Okay?
Will Arnett
He's one of our readers.
Sean Hayes
If Carl's one of your readers, I will be. Carl, I love you, pal. You've been through a lot. You've made a nice turn.
Jason Bateman
Who do you think? I hope we have like one low key, famous listener or reader.
Will Arnett
We definitely do.
Jason Bateman
Gotta have one, right?
Will Arnett
I have friends that. I have friends that are like, famous that. That listen.
Jason Bateman
But yeah, someone that we don't even know.
Will Arnett
Like Stephen Hawking, if he's listening.
Jason Bateman
Bill Gates. Bill Gates. I know you used to listen. And we gave you that idea to put the chlamydia medicine in a smoothie for you.
Will Arnett
You did it wrong, by the way. We said to grind it. Yeah, you can't put a whole pill in it.
Jason Bateman
Juice booster. She's gonna figure that out.
Sean Hayes
That. This is Ideas Hub, this podcast. This is where the billionaires come for the tricks and the tips.
Jason Bateman
Sam Altman. Yeah, we pitched. Could you be more stressful to be around in real life?
Sean Hayes
Have you ever met him?
Jason Bateman
No.
Sean Hayes
Oh, okay.
Will Arnett
Who's the guy?
Jason Bateman
I see all these guys in the interviews and I'm like, someone just needs to decorate.
Sean Hayes
Who's the guy that.
Will Arnett
Who's the guy that's like, very on drugs? The one with like the crazy gray hair who's like, I think that's Sam. No, that's not Sam Almond.
Jason Bateman
Then it's the other one. It's. He's got three names and he's Elon Musk.
Will Arnett
No, two names.
Sean Hayes
He loves drugs.
Will Arnett
He's kind of like that.
Sean Hayes
His eyes are on Sam Bankman Fried.
Will Arnett
Sam Bankman Fried. Have you seen him? Sam Bankman Fried is a trip.
Sean Hayes
Three name people, you know?
Jason Bateman
Yeah, his name is Almost Bankman Fraud. It sounds like billions of dollars.
Will Arnett
It sounds like a Batman villain.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, it sounds like fucking J.K. rowling. Need to come up with a Jewish character's name.
Will Arnett
No, we would never be a villain. We just.
Jason Bateman
Just the long nose creatures that run the bank.
Will Arnett
Literally. I love Jake. Everyone is. Everyone's like, J.K. rowling's anti trans. And I'm like, she doesn't love Jews.
Jason Bateman
Well, even Like. Like, there's like, one black character name, and it's like shadow Mick the Asian or whatever. Yeah, yeah. They, like, she just. All the names are like, just slur adjacent. You know, someone pointed out, too, that she goes by JK because having a man's name, not having a woman's name helped her sell more books. So some would say that's a little trans of her. Yeah, she's.
Will Arnett
What is she expressing?
Jason Bateman
Yeah, Expressing her gender difference.
Will Arnett
She's mass presenting. Yeah.
Sean Hayes
Yeah. You know, it is interesting. When the Harry Potter books did first come out, all my Jewish friends. I mean, books. This time I'm talking movies. Okay. For real. The movies came out, all my Jewish friends were like, what the hell?
Will Arnett
Oh, yeah, I was totally like. Because in my mind. Because when you read it, you're like, no, I'm sure it's just like the.
Sean Hayes
But you apply your own, like, image
Will Arnett
to it and then they see it
Jason Bateman
to do the voice.
Will Arnett
Yeah. Literally. It's like everyone else has a British accent except the bank. He's like, you can't come in here. No, no, no, sir. A wizard.
Jason Bateman
Me.
Will Arnett
This. You 10. There's no good here. It's like. Like, what the hell?
Sean Hayes
What the.
Jason Bateman
Let me put on my sorting yama.
Will Arnett
Yeah. It's like, oh, but hold on one second. Oh, you're trying to buy a wand. We could give you a loan.
Jason Bateman
Y. Really up. What? It was really up. In Goblet of Fire, when the one Jewish kid puts the sorting hat on and says, you're working at the bank. He's like, am I Gryffindor? It's like, no, pal. He's like, you're sorry, you're in the bank. You're a vc.
Will Arnett
Yeah. He's like, oh, maybe we'll let you do one thing. You can direct the play. One Jewish kid is like, thank you, God. Like Ben Platt.
Jason Bateman
Like, thank you,
Will Arnett
Truly. It's like the fucking nightmare. Except it only is a. That only comes as a repetition of the fucking Lord of the Rings, which is like. They literally called the character a golem, who's like, oh, my precious. Again. Everyone else has British accents. Everyone else, the golem is like, where's my ring?
Jason Bateman
Has anyone seen my diamonds?
Will Arnett
Anyone seen my ring?
Jason Bateman
It's Passover.
Will Arnett
And then it's like, oh. And it's like, having the one Jewish character, Lord of the Rings is neurotic. Oh, should I go here? Should I go there?
Jason Bateman
What should I do?
Will Arnett
Should I.
Jason Bateman
Should I sell the ring? Should I buy the ring?
Will Arnett
It's like, fucking we can't. We can't. It took until Daniel Craig in Munich for anyone to be like, damn, maybe I should fucking flay off.
Jason Bateman
Tolkien Even worse than J.K. rowling at times, because who are the only black
Will Arnett
people in the military?
Jason Bateman
It's orcs, bad guys.
Will Arnett
Terrible.
Jason Bateman
There's no other black hair. And then people flip out when he made. When they made an elf black in the Amazon prime show, and people were like, elves aren't black. And people, Elves aren't real.
Will Arnett
There's a reason elves aren't black.
Sean Hayes
So crazy.
Jason Bateman
Like, people going like, there's no. You can't have a black elf. It's like, you don't understand. There's a reason Elgar elves are fake. You can make them an ALGAR BLACK
Will Arnett
Because J.K. rowling's father was a drunk.
Jason Bateman
So that's why I hope this bitch has to move back to her car.
Sean Hayes
I do, too.
Jason Bateman
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Will Arnett
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Jason Bateman
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Will Arnett
Assistant engineer, Kyle McGraw. Special thanks to Jared O' Connell at SiriusXM.
Jason Bateman
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Will Arnett
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Jason Bateman
Don't reach out to us.
Will Arnett
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Sean Hayes
Smart less me.
Episode: BONUS: Audiobooks/Summer House Scandal (w/ Blair Socci)
Date: June 2, 2026
Host Network: SmartLess Media
This lively bonus episode serves as an unscripted, round-table discussion where hosts Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally (though notably, much of the conversation is between Jason Bateman, Will Arnett, and Sean Hayes) riff with characteristic wit about modern screen addiction, the legitimacy of audiobooks, pop culture scandal (notably, the "Summer House" Bravo show drama), and some searing observations on how fantasy fiction has handled religion and representation. Freewheeling and deeply irreverent, the conversation bounces between thoughtful reflections and raucous comic riffs, making for an episode both insightful and hilarious.
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| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|------------------------------------------| | 00:22–01:30 | Struggling with screen addiction | | 01:30–03:55 | Audiobooks vs. reading debate | | 04:06–07:22 | Summer House Scandal explained | | 06:39–07:46 | Pop culture “bombshell” moments | | 07:46–09:17 | Picking sides and Summer House arcs | | 09:34–10:22 | The “Ideas Hub” and billionaire banter| | 10:22–11:13 | Tech personalities & villainy | | 11:13–14:41 | Fantasy fiction & representation satire|
The episode maintains a rapid-fire, sarcastic, and self-deprecating comedic energy. The hosts alternate between earnest reflection (on health, reading habits, etc.) and gleeful, boundary-pushing satire (especially in the fantasy fiction segment). The humor is smart, offbeat, and often meta, with many asides about the business of podcasting, their own privilege, and cultural absurdities.