
In this bonus clip from Staying Alive, hosts Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally have been on their best behavior this whole episode, not peppering showrunner Matt Selman with Simpsons questions, but in this chunk, all bets are off, and it’s just nothing but Simpsons Predict The Future, the theme park ride, and news about a second movie! Check out Matt’s up-and-coming new show-that-could, The Simpsons, on Hulu or Disney+ Full video episodes available HERE. Check out Staying Alive merch at siriusxmstore.com/stayingalive This episode was recorded April 21 at Forever Dog in Los Angeles CA Special thanks to Brett Boham Staying Alive is produced by Devon Torrey Bryant and Anne Harris Engineered and edited by Devon Torrey Bryant, who also wrote the music Associate producer and video editor is Maddie McCann Executive produced by Jon Gabrus, Adam Pally, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Bernie Kaminski, and Rich Korson
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John Gabris
Bonus clip.
Adam Pali
So we were trying to do. I'm sorry to interrupt. No, we were trying to do a joke about how a joke about how when brands go into IP goes in the public domain, anyone can do what they want. So like, and we're doing comedy hold ups of that on the show and we had one of it was called Winnie the Lube. It was like a sexual Winnie the Pooh sex lube. And Matt Groening was like, no, this is a children's show. Don't have the bear in a, you know, like a leatherman vest with the hat for Winnie the Lou. But come on, Matt, it's funny. He's like, it's a kids show. Like, well, not a kids show but it's a kids watch. Like kids do watch it. We want kids to watch it. So the compromise was Skinny the Pooh and it's like a super GLP one sagged out, that's fine. Sagged out. I mean, that's a good master class young comedy writers there. If someone gives you a note and feels bad, you can either make a stink about it and be obnoxious or say, okay, I'm gonna try to think of something funny that works with the note and maybe, maybe I'll like that.
Devin Tory Bryant
Yeah, maybe you'll beat it.
Adam Pali
Don't say no before you've tried to like write.
John Gabris
It's the wrong idea to think that there's only one good.
Devin Tory Bryant
But that's the defensive thing that I, I get frustrated with a lot in writers is like as an actor, sure. Our job is to not be defensive. Right?
Adam Pali
Right.
Devin Tory Bryant
The actors you hate working with the most are the ones that do it. And then you go, could you do this? And they go, I was doing this.
John Gabris
Yeah.
Devin Tory Bryant
And you're like, I don't. Can you, you know What? I mean, the actors you like working with are the ones that go, sure, let's do it again. Try.
Adam Pali
Right?
Devin Tory Bryant
And then it's either good or not. The best ones are the ones that can do it instantly. But that's how the relationship is. When an actor sometimes goes, can I
Adam Pali
ask you about this?
Devin Tory Bryant
The response is like, what?
John Gabris
Yeah, those are funny moments. Because you, like.
Devin Tory Bryant
You're like, well, I just wanted to know because, like, the joke may. It's like, there's a room upstairs of 15 writers, pal. This is the way, you know? And you're like, but why are you defensive? If I. It's like, it's. I feel like that's the same way
Adam Pali
that person is, like, processing their trauma on you.
Devin Tory Bryant
Exactly.
Adam Pali
But like, having been told what to do a thousand times.
Devin Tory Bryant
Exactly. But I feel the same way. The best writers, right, are the ones that are non defensive, and they're like, it's not personal, this note. I just have to kind of think of another way around it, you know,
John Gabris
like, what's the note behind the note?
Devin Tory Bryant
Yeah.
Adam Pali
What's the note? But it's a. You know, it's. Sometimes a note is. Well, everything is subjective.
Devin Tory Bryant
Right.
Adam Pali
Sometimes a note is good, sometimes it's bad. But before you, like, dig in, have fun fucking around trying to figure out. And now I like Skinny the Pooh.
Devin Tory Bryant
Yeah.
Adam Pali
I like Winnie the Lube also. I mean. Yeah.
Devin Tory Bryant
I think Skinny the Pooh beats Winnie the Loo.
Adam Pali
There you go.
John Gabris
I think it does too. I think it's more on the rhyming.
Adam Pali
Right.
John Gabris
It hits a little harder.
Adam Pali
Yeah. And then you don't have the potential downside of, like, people thinking the show is, like, dirty. Like, our show shouldn't be that dirty. Like, if we have Family Guy in South park who are so funny and can take it every which way.
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Adam Pali
We're not gonna out them. Them speaking about that, how do you
Devin Tory Bryant
feel about this thing that's happening all the time with, like, Simpsons Predict the Future?
Adam Pali
Well, I love it and hate it.
Devin Tory Bryant
Yeah. I would assume that you would. I would. That's why I asked the question. Because knowing you, I feel like you would be like, this is not something I want to look at.
Adam Pali
I know.
Devin Tory Bryant
It's pressure.
Adam Pali
It's good for business.
Devin Tory Bryant
Right.
Adam Pali
So. So that I like it for that I don't like it that the world believes in dumb, dumb magic.
Devin Tory Bryant
You don't. Like, people believe that you know what's gonna happen.
Adam Pali
Right. And that the. The sort of Occam's Razor of what so clearly happened is not that people hate. Hate what's true and real, and they want to believe magic over what's true and real. That's like, a bummer. And it's also a bummer that now AI People can make any prediction come true because they can create a fake. Like, when the. The. The boat crashed into the bridge in Baltimore, there was a terrible AI homer with, like, 16 fingers piloting the boat into the bridge in Baltimore. And everyone was like, how do they do it? Like, this is so clearly not from the show.
Devin Tory Bryant
Right.
Adam Pali
Like, there was never an episode where Homer specifically piloted the exact same boat in the exact same bridge in the exact same Baltimore. Like, you just. People's. People's desire to believe in nonsense and magical bullshit is so strong in 2026 that you. It's just.
John Gabris
It's just.
Adam Pali
It's a bummer.
John Gabris
It's a little easier than what reality is, I guess, for some people. But, like, in reality, the Simpsons have just had such an insane output that there's enough chances that you can find something that lines up. You just have so much. So many jokes.
Adam Pali
They act like there's a section of the show. We're like, all right, we've had some fun today. Now let's say some predictions. Yeah, right. Let's just, hey, Homer, what's going to happen tomorrow? He's like, I don't know. Maybe this boat will crash into that bridge, and this is what it would look like.
Devin Tory Bryant
Well, we should draw it up just in case.
Adam Pali
Yeah, I got. Someone said, like, I don't know. Whatever. There was one about. They're always saying we've predicted the death of famous people and, like.
Devin Tory Bryant
Right.
Adam Pali
We do not show famous people being killed on the show.
John Gabris
Right.
Adam Pali
That's like. That's insane.
John Gabris
Have famous cameos.
Adam Pali
So.
Devin Tory Bryant
Yeah, I don't remember.
Adam Pali
You lived. You were on the show. You lived.
Devin Tory Bryant
I'm still around.
Adam Pali
You're still here.
Devin Tory Bryant
I don't remember.
Adam Pali
You were not, like, in a coffin.
Devin Tory Bryant
I don't remember the Kobe Bryant helicopter episode.
Adam Pali
Oh, my God. I'm sure that exists.
John Gabris
That went down.
Adam Pali
I'm sure that exists.
Devin Tory Bryant
Just like the copter.
Adam Pali
I'm sure that exists with, like, Homer is driving it, like, do, do, do.
Devin Tory Bryant
Yeah, no, it's this. It's Autumn school bus.
Adam Pali
And I like to get black, though, so. But there is a. We are working on another Simpsons movie.
John Gabris
Hell, yeah.
Adam Pali
And I really hope it's great. I really believe in it. I really think it's funny.
Devin Tory Bryant
And is it about the podcaster?
Adam Pali
It's a little bit about A certain manosphere podcast.
Devin Tory Bryant
Yes.
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John Gabris
We should let you know now. Adam, you're the star of the Simpsons movie.
Devin Tory Bryant
I've already spent the money, but like,
Adam Pali
you know, I just feel like there's ways to like make the movie and the show's zeitgeist come together that I'm excited about.
Devin Tory Bryant
That's amazing.
Adam Pali
Fingers crossed.
Devin Tory Bryant
Can I see another?
Adam Pali
Sure.
Devin Tory Bryant
Just. Fan question.
Adam Pali
Sure.
Devin Tory Bryant
I won't, I won't do all my thousands of things, but I'm going to do one too. So you could do one. Yeah, there's too many. Yeah.
Adam Pali
But.
Devin Tory Bryant
But the, the ride.
Adam Pali
The ride. Oh, I love talking about the ride.
Devin Tory Bryant
I love the ride. Right?
Adam Pali
I love the ride.
Devin Tory Bryant
The ride is joke filled, joke packed.
Adam Pali
Yeah. Well, you know that, that's. We all worked on it.
Devin Tory Bryant
Yeah.
Adam Pali
There's a fantastic writer, you know, Matt Warburton.
Devin Tory Bryant
Yeah, I remember he was like, Warburton was doing it.
Adam Pali
He was like the war. He was war was the ride master. Like, he, he loves rides, he loves imagineering, he loves theme parks. So I mean, we all worked on it. Al Jean worked on it. Jim Brooks and Matt Green, we all worked on it. But Matt Warb, like just threw himself into it with like reckless abandon.
Devin Tory Bryant
It's amazing. And I was wondering, do you. What's the like, update version? Because I was there like three years ago and it was. Everything was holding up. But my thought now, like you were saying we're getting into 2026 and Simpsons predict the future and stuff and there's like so much new Simpsons lore. Do you. Have you guys thought about like adding or like doing more? And they've. And they're building so much in that area on the park. Like, what's the, what's the plan?
Adam Pali
Well, you know, there's like some big macro conversation between Disney and Universal that figures out like the 10 year plans for this shit that I don't even, I don't know about. I think it's going to be there for a long time. I hope it is because I think it's the fantastic kind of hub for Universal Hollywood.
Devin Tory Bryant
I love it.
Adam Pali
And I. Then I love the, the food court.
Devin Tory Bryant
The donuts.
Adam Pali
The donuts. There's. There's this little upstairs room that's like the Palm with like kind of charact sketches on the wall. It's like a kind of. If you need a moment of peace at Universal, there's this very peaceful little side upstairs room from Krusty Burger that you can go to.
Devin Tory Bryant
Oh, okay.
Adam Pali
And we actually just had a great meeting with the universal people where people had to pretend to laugh at what I was saying and where we were like something we've never done, which is insane. Which is Halloween Eyes it for Halloween. Right?
Devin Tory Bryant
Oh, for the horror nights.
Adam Pali
We've been talking about it for years. We never did it. So, like, horror nights are their biggest thing.
John Gabris
And you guys, Halloween is our biggest thing.
Adam Pali
So the fact that we haven't done that. So we have a lot of fun ideas for Halloweenifying the Simpsons experience. I mean, like, everything has to have a huge lead time. So there'll be 27 will be the best version of that.
Devin Tory Bryant
Right?
John Gabris
Right.
Adam Pali
There'll be hopes. Don't be mad. Universal. I love you. This is a spoiler. It's all going to be great. Where if we have some fun, great ideas for 26 Universal Horror Nights for Simpsons. That's good. The. The ride itself is. It's hard to change the technology like, of the graphics. And the graphics are sort of out of date. But the experience is still great and the jokes are still good. It has surprises. And so I just feel like the nuts and bolts of the ride are probably going to stay the same. Maybe we could screw with the pre show a little bit.
Devin Tory Bryant
But the experience is going to grow.
Adam Pali
I mean, I feel like we have really good meetings about adding fun and scariness and Simpsoniness and silliness around the outside of the ride. And particularly for Halloween. I mean, once we. When we were building it, they take you on like a rough draft of it, like before it's done. And so before we went on the kind of rough draft of the ride, they gave us a big free meal at then Doc Brown's fried chicken, which is actually the best. I love the Doc Bounds fried chicken. But on the bone, on the bone. Chicken is like KFC plus, Right. It's that pressure cooked, really fun fast food, delicious chicken. I love it. And so we had giant free all you can eat Doc Brown fried chicken meal. Then incredibly rough, not fixed at all. Simpsons ride. And we were throwing up. So. And like people had like heads. It was such a dis. And it might have. I don't know if they were trying to. If they were doing it to f with us. Respect. Universal super respect. Giving them too many notes or whatever. But like, we were just. It was such a disaster.
Devin Tory Bryant
That's how they canceled throwback.
Adam Pali
Yeah.
Devin Tory Bryant
But also they fed us and they put us on a ride.
Adam Pali
Doc Brown. Doc Brown doesn't care about fried chicken. Like, no, he's too busy. He doesn't even eat.
Devin Tory Bryant
I've Never.
Adam Pali
You have to tell him, doc. Slow down. Have a sandwich. He's like, no, I'm working on my science.
John Gabris
Is it Cletus?
Adam Pali
Not unless it's Cletus's.
John Gabris
Yeah. Yeah.
Devin Tory Bryant
Not unless it's fried chicken.
John Gabris
The slack, jarred yokel. My Simpsons. My Simpsons fan question I need to ask is.
Adam Pali
Sure.
John Gabris
Do you have a favorite character?
Adam Pali
Do I have a favorite character in the wide universe?
John Gabris
This is something I always want to ask Simpsons writers or who their favorite person to write for.
Devin Tory Bryant
That's what I was gonna jam Duff.
John Gabris
I want to jam Duffman into as many episodes as possible.
Devin Tory Bryant
Or who do you find yourself pitching for most?
Adam Pali
Oh, guys, I'm so old now. I mean, I just love homework. I know it's a bad, boring answer.
Devin Tory Bryant
That's, like, emotional to me. That. That makes me feel good. I don't want to cry that he said cry a little bit. It's like, yeah, it should be Homer.
John Gabris
I mean, Homer is the best. Like, he's. He stood the test of time.
Devin Tory Bryant
The Simpsons has. Has this. You know, like, I have a poster in my. In my son's room since he's born of the Alphabet, and each letter is a different Simpsons character. That's amazing. Yeah, right? But Homer is the funniest character. He's the eight. He's the. He's the floor. He's like, how, you know, you're watching,
Adam Pali
you know, and, like, we're just. We're so fortunate that, like, we can make a show that, like, dads and kids can watch together and not just, I'm making you watch my old thing. No, I'm watching making you watch my new thing. It's. They both. There's old and new of the same thing.
John Gabris
This was already true in the 90s when I was watching it because, like, I would be like, dad, what's Bart's costume? He's like, that's Clockwork orange. I'm like, can I watch that? And he's like, that's cool.
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John Gabris
Like, I talk about this a lot. The Simpsons taught me so much about movies and tv, right? Things that I eventually would be in love with on my own.
Adam Pali
Right? Like the way Mad magazine taught me. Exactly. I didn't know what, like, Rosemary's baby was, right?
Devin Tory Bryant
But I read the bad.
John Gabris
Like Letterman always said, Boutros Boutros. Golly. And I had no idea what that reference was, right? Like, something stuck in my head. Then the Simpsons I, like, eventually, like, retroactively learned. I'm like, oh, what's happening in this? My dad's like, this is Cape Fear. It's a. It's a Martin Scorsese movie. You would like it. And I'm like, okay, cool. That's what.
Adam Pali
Yeah. And I hope our kid viewers now, when we do something deep, cut to some weird piece of culture, have curiosity about it and want to learn.
Devin Tory Bryant
And I will say, I will tell you. I will. I don't know how you're gonna feel about this, but I will tell you
Adam Pali
that I've got a pretty tough skin at this point.
Devin Tory Bryant
Well, yeah, this is a weird one because I feel weird about it because my son so. So my young. My. My kids are all Simpsons fans, but my son, my youngest, Drake, he really caught on good. Like, and. But it happened young. Right. So he was like maybe 6, and he really started to love it. And there's so many episodes. And he didn't. He wasn't watching it the way that I used to watch it when I found it when I was 13, which was like, comedically. He watched it because he was like, this is an adult cartoon in a way. So he needed to get it quicker. And so he started watching these things on YouTube, which are abridged Simpsons shows that are narrated by AI and then stopped for, like, funny jokes.
Adam Pali
Sure.
Devin Tory Bryant
And you can do like a full episode in, like, six minutes.
Adam Pali
Oh, that is distressing.
Devin Tory Bryant
I know. I knew.
Adam Pali
I love it. I kind of.
Devin Tory Bryant
But. But I got to tell you, he's. He can reference. It's wild. Like, he'll tell me stuff that have happened on episodes that I've obviously never from season. From seasons that are in between, you know.
Adam Pali
Yeah.
Devin Tory Bryant
And he'll be like, oh, that's from.
Adam Pali
Like, was he happy when you were on the show?
Devin Tory Bryant
Oh, it was the biggest.
Adam Pali
That's good.
Devin Tory Bryant
We have a picture of my character. Nagel sent me a picture. It's in his room. Of my character and people. There have been several people that are like, which Simpsons character he's been in one episode.
Adam Pali
So, I mean, I guess that is an unfortunate product of modern craziness. But I. I am going to throw that also in the kind of good for business.
Devin Tory Bryant
Yeah.
Adam Pali
Pile, which is there are a lot of episodes. If you're young and you process thing in this broken computery way.
Devin Tory Bryant
Yeah.
Adam Pali
It's better than not doing it at all. Or I mean, I guess exercise, kids, exercise is the best thing you should be doing and not watching TV at all. That's our right. Start young, our friends. But, like, if you're not going to be exercising or being healthy and legitimate Ways, you know, you're, you're still loving these characters.
Devin Tory Bryant
And you know what the flip side of that is? Which is good. Which you reminded me of like on the way back from New Zealand, the WI fi went out. We only had our iPad and we have the movie on the iPad. And he watched the movie twice on the flight in a different way than he was watching throughout the trip. The abridged versions of the Simpson. I think it was like, it's like the movie was the, the, the thesis, the. Not the like the center of it and he could focus on it and he could get the jokes and he could like even at 8, like you know, understand stuff. But then, then he would went back to the abridged to just kind of
Adam Pali
like find a little bit of my fat has been showing for the whole thing. Can we start over?
John Gabris
Yeah. Can we just go take it from the top?
Adam Pali
Can we just go.
John Gabris
So what do you do to stay alive?
Devin Tory Bryant
We definitely didn't start with that.
Adam Pali
The. It's weird but like look, movies are hard and you never know what you've got until you put it in front of a kind of an audience and then you know. But this movie we're working on now, it's so in my mind it's so much for the Disney streamer kid streamer audience we found during COVID and now even have nostalgia towards the show because they're older teenagers. Like like I really want to make a movie that these guys like in addition to like the 50 year old burned out Simpson dorks being on this
John Gabris
air so long that you have teen, late teens, kids who have nostalgia for the Simpsons like I do at my mid-40s from when I was.
Adam Pali
They watched it in. They binged it in Covid and. And now it's eight years later and they, you know, they, it's like Minions to them, right? No.
Devin Tory Bryant
Yeah.
Adam Pali
Or Minecraft. Like you know, you can't.
Devin Tory Bryant
Anyway, it is culturally comforting.
Adam Pali
Yeah. And like. And I'm excited. I hope we can deliver something cool because I have a lot of crazy ideas.
Devin Tory Bryant
I really don't doubt that. Yeah.
John Gabris
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Devin Tory Bryant
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Devin Tory Bryant
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Release Date: June 9, 2026
In this bonus episode, Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally are joined by Matt Selman—longtime executive producer and writer for The Simpsons—for a playful yet insightful dive into the creative process behind the iconic series. They discuss comedy writing, producing in the age of AI, the enduring cultural impact of The Simpsons, and share inside stories about the theme park ride and upcoming movie plans. The conversation is freewheeling, honest, and full of irreverent fun typical of the “Staying Alive” podcast, while occasionally offering real nuggets for comedy and TV fans.
Timestamps: 00:59–04:00
Timestamps: 04:10–06:50
Timestamps: 06:57–08:00, 17:14–18:14
Timestamps: 07:41–11:53
Timestamps: 12:09–14:16
Timestamps: 14:16–17:04
“The best ones [actors or writers] are the ones that can do it instantly. But that’s how the relationship is.”
—Devin Tory Bryant (02:41)
“We’re not gonna out Family Guy or South Park… our show shouldn’t be that dirty.”
—Adam Pally (03:58)
“The sort of Occam’s Razor of what so clearly happened is… not that people hate what’s true and real, and they want to believe magic.”
—Adam Pally (04:39)
“I want to jam Duffman into as many episodes as possible.”
—Jon Gabrus (12:25)
“We’re so fortunate… we can make a show that dads and kids can watch together.”
—Adam Pally (13:08)
“The Simpsons taught me so much about movies and TV, right? Things that I eventually would be in love with on my own.”
—Jon Gabrus (13:36)
“If you’re not going to be exercising or being healthy in legitimate ways, you’re still loving these characters.”
—Adam Pally (16:07)
This episode is a must-listen for Simpsons fans who crave a behind-the-scenes peek, writers and comedians who appreciate craft talk, and pop culture obsessives curious about the intersection of legacy TV, fandom, and evolving media habits. The banter is brisk, the references fly, and the story about nearly puking at Universal Studios is alone worth the play.