
Hosts Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally haven’t caught up in a few weeks, so they hop on a non-branded video call to discuss night shoots, big sandwich influencers, fourth meals, Vegas bachelor parties, music festivals, and fat aliens in the military. New episode on Thursday! Check out Staying Alive merch at siriusxmstore.com/stayingalive
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Smart bless media.
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All right, we're recording.
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I too am rolling.
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Rolling, rolling. I too am rolling.
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You see me rolling? You hear me rolling.
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I've been watching this, this guy on my feed who does like, crazy big sandwiches. Like, I think it's called like Tillersios or something in New Jersey.
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Yeah.
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Are you, are you following too?
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Well, let's just say I don't follow him. But let's say for some, my algorithm, when it takes a break from like tatted up busty chicks, it throws me a few sandwiches from the tri state area.
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I love watching the sandwiches and everything, but he has such a limited, A limited vocabulary and a limited, like, he says the same thing every time. And they're all these like movie phrases from the 90s, you know, and it's like. But it's very comforting to watch him.
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Like, it's like talking to an. Yeah, yeah.
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And he's like putting these, like. Then we're going to lit it and split it and then we're going to put this cheesesteak on here like a glove. All right? And then I'll be like. And we're going to pull our chicken parm out of the oven.
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Ooh, Steaming Willie, beaming.
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What? What? Like, that's like from any given Sunday. Like, what?
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That's fucking awesome.
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It's great. It's so comforting. But he, it's wild to hear someone like, still using those, those terms. And he goes like. But the reason I thought of it was because of what you said. He'll be like, then we're gonna put the top on. Like, Jeezy put on.
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So awesome.
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I think that's what I want to be is just like a sandwich person on a social media channel.
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Yes. I just want to be a guy. I just want to be Action Bronson. I just want to get stoned, walk into a place, dap everybody up, eat for free, and somehow make money and sneakers off of that.
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Like, I feel like we're close to that or we were at a time.
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I think we're further and further away than anything.
C
How are you? I feel like I haven't seen you or talk to you.
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This has been the longest stretch we've gone without seeing each other since the podcast kicked off because we, we, we were so backed up on episodes. We've both been pretty busy little bees. But I miss you, bud.
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I'm glad you, you've been all over the place. You've been, you've been on movie sets and you've been in.
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Dog, you know how I live.
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Performing.
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Yeah, I'm doing hundreds of shows. But. Yo, how are you? How are you doing health wise, bro? You look good health wise.
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Thanks. I'm doing okay. I'm feeling okay. I feel like I, I have been doing this movie and it's been a lot of nights and stuff and so I just finished yesterday or last this morning and I feel a little bit like I need a detox and not. I haven't been drinking necessarily.
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But you just need like to like a realignment, like get your shit back, like in a pattern. Get like normal sleep hours and stuff like that.
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Yes. I need to not be eating like Chipotle as a second meal at 4 in the. You know what I mean?
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Like the best.
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But the best. But the worst, like Wawa. There's so much. Because we were shooting in Jersey, it was like so much Wawa.
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Like, oh, we're doing a Wawa run. What kind of sandwich do you want? And shit.
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Yeah, and it would be like three in the morning and you'd have three more hours to go before the sun comes up and you're like, you know what? Give me a buff chicken with ranch. You know, like, it's like, you know, I feel like I need a little bit of like a realignment.
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Yeah, I feel you. I've been doing good fitness wise. I've been getting it in big time. But I, I am still getting killed by my own fourth meal. I'm. I'm killing myself. I. I need to, I'm getting. Yeah, I'm doing like a full. Like. Well, I ate a healthy dinner at 8:00pm okay, well, now it's 10:40 and I'm watching Platonic and up. I'm taking out chips and guac. Oh, and putting cheese on these. You know, all of a sudden I'm like. And it just, I mean, I don't know, there's some obvious reasons why I might be getting hungry at 11pm and I got absolutely blasted, but I need to, I need to like break that pattern.
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It's hard. Yeah, it's Hard. That one's like, always my. My. My thing that was. That was always really hard. Which I still, like, fall pretty. Pretty regularly, too, is like, I'll have dinner at like, 6, and then at like, 8, I'll be like, I could have a bowl of cereal or four, you know? Or like, I could have, like, some, like, a mindless small snack that turns into like, a whole sleeve of, like, Girl Scout cookies or something. And then you're like, oh, shit. Why do I feel. You're like. The next morning, you're like, I feel like I'm doing everything right. Why am I. Why. Why do I look and feel like shit? You're like, I did eat a box of Girl Scout cookies, dude.
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I. And I'll do the thing too, where I'll have fruit in my fridge. Go in my fridge, see the fruit and be like, this is what you're supposed to have when you're stoned at night and want a snack. And I'm like, but also. And then I'll bust out another snack. And then I'll be like, well, now I should have the fruit. And then I'll. So I'll eat, like, the Girl Scout cookies and the fruit and dinner, and it's just like, right now, what the fuck am I doing?
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Sugar. At night?
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Yeah. Then I'm, like, laying in bed, waking up with like, okay, I want to get to the pool by 9am to swim some laps. And I'm like, well, I'm gonna be on the toilet from like, 7 to 8am I know.
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You know what? I. You know what I did start doing? I started doing two things on this shoot that. That I've never done before that I think have been helping. Like, I can't. It's hard to say if anything really helps. Cause I feel like my whole life is just moment to moment, day to day. But I've been. Instead of eating like, a big breakfast, even though that's what my dad told us to do, I've been having watermelon.
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Okay?
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Like, I'll. I'll stop at the Wawa and get like, a cup of watermelon, okay. And eat it on the way to work. And it's, like, satiating enough.
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Yeah, it's hydrating. It's a treat.
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Exactly. It's like sugary and a treat and satiating enough that by the time I get to work, I don't really want, like, the egg burrito or whatever they're giving me.
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Right, right, right.
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And so you're like, I'll skip that. And then at night, right before I had like before I head home, I'll get, I'll ask for like a cup of hot water and lemon like during the last scene. And I down.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I found myself like in the car ride home feeling a lot better.
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Yeah. That's just like tea. Yeah. Like it's smart like to set you up for like. Like a wind down. It feels like so good. Like it does.
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It feels amazing. Like you, you like. Because like usually and I still circumcise this on like a Friday, Thursday, Wednesday, Tuesday night maybe. But like I will, you know, usually it's like we're getting close to the end. Here's a pop of whiskey to get me through the last like wide shot, you know, or whatever. But.
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Here'S a little, little glass of whiskey in a coffee cup to get me through this Jay Jurden interview here. I'm staying alive.
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I mean at least we don't have to do them at five in the morning in Asbury Park. I, you know, like there were a couple nights where I was like, what am I doing here? But that's on every job I think.
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Yeah.
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And the hot water with lemon was just. And I think I'm gonna keep it now in my rotation. Like I think I'm gonna be one of those guys now that at the end of every meal like you want anything else? I'll be like, could I get a cup of hot water with lemon?
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Oh, I like that.
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I think I'm gonna be that guy.
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I'm still ordering for nets, but maybe I should know.
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I know I'm usually a for net.
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Guy, but I was having for net with a friend the other day and she was like, what is that? I'm like, oh, it doesn't taste good at all. She was like, I'm like, I can't, I can't. I can't sell you on this. It's like about. It's like the attitude of ordering it is what matters.
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I think it's truly trying to sell someone on for Net is like trying to offer someone a Mike and Ike instead of a Sour Patch Kid. It's like there's no real reason you're going to choose this.
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Right.
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It's just something you end up doing.
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I've been back in the pool a bunch. I've been swimming.
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Last I heard you say that, that you look. First of all you look. I can always tell when you're, when you're in a zone cardi wise because your shoulders get. Are the first thing to get yoked you know what I mean? Yeah. You can always tell when Gabrius is doing something. Your neck sn. Oh, dude, it was so scary. I was what? A PA the other day was walking around, and all of a sudden she goes, oh, oh, my neck. And I was like, what happened? She's like, I yawned and pulled a muscle.
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Oh, man. Whoa. A young pa. Things are gonna change.
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Wait, that can happen.
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I'm trying so hard not to get hurt on a daily basis. I'm not pushing myself like crazy, but my big fear is being hurt or too sore and then getting off pattern again because I've been.
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How's the pool? What are you doing in it?
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Just back and forth. I'm. I'm. I'm ramping it up a little. I was doing some flip turns this morning. Oh, yeah.
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That's when you get serious.
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That's when I'm. I'm trying. Trying to pick up the pace a little. I've been. I took now raw dog. You know what? A little sensory deprivation. It's like the one hour a day that I'm not on a screen. Even when I'm in the sauna, I'm watching Netflix.
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So it's like, oh, yeah, of course. I'm a staring at my TV through the window.
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That's exactly at the sauna place I go to, and they only have Netflix on the TVs. So I've been. I've watched, like, every Netflix series over the course.
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Like, even the Jason Bateman Black Rabbit.
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Oh, yeah, I watched. I watched Black Rabbit.
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I got to do that one.
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I dug Black Rabbit because it combines, like, a New York thriller and restaurants. And plus, no, I'm going to love it.
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I'm going to be second.
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Jude Law and Bateman are great in it. Hey, did you see that Smartless is playing the Hollywood Bowl? Do you think they'll let us open up for. Yo. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna ask to sit in the VIP section and get.
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Whenever. I'm gonna go and embarrass. I'm gonna go and embarrass them. Hey, what's up? I work for Will.
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Remember early on in our comedy career when ASCAT played Central Park Summer Stage and you were with us? We were the suggestion kids. We were running around with the microphone in the crowd and got people's suggestions as well.
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And Amy, I do remember. The whole time, I'm like, just don't make a bit about, like, me. Don't make a bit about horse. Like, Besser and Amy were like, look at the way this kid runs. And I was like, damn it. Did I tell you my Vegas thing? Did we catch up on that? Because you asked me how Vegas was and I was like, it was so chill. So it's a, it's my cousin's, my little cousin's bachelor party. Who's 30, he's getting married. It's like 12 of his friends, 30 year old, and they all work in like finance. So it's like bougie, you know what I mean? Like, no one, no one.
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Did they golf during the bachelor party?
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No, no, no, no. My cousin, no, they drank all day. It's a strick offs, baby. There's no time off. But so I was shooting nights all week and I flew in and so I have. My last night was Thursday. I wrapped at 4, got in my car, drove to Newark airport, left my car at Newark airport, got on the 6am, landed in Vegas at 9, went right to the hotel, right to the suite, met my cousin at 9, 30, 10, who was going already, who was going. And so I was like, all right, let's go. Like, it's, it's go time.
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I can hang with 30 year olds every once in a while.
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And so from like, you know, there were like Bloody Marys and, and you know, it was like that kind of morning and it was like, you know, I caught a heater on a blackjack table and that was like an hour. So by the time I left that blackjack table, there was like, you know, a good array of Bloody Mary glasses, you know. Now we're at like 1pm pretty, pretty.
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Deep into heartburn at this point.
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I've already stopped. I've already stopped and opened my bag for a Zantac. My. Then my other cousins.
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When you're 40, that's the zany bar you need at the casino.
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Totally. Then my, my other cousins arrive and they're, you know, like Ben and Jake. They're a little older than Jesse and so they're like, you know, we want to take it easy during the day today. We want to like ease in. And Ben was like, my, my dad made the four of us massage appointments for like three o', clock, which was a surprise and really nice, you know. So the four of us, like me and my three cousins are like brothers, you know, we all go to the spa and I'm wasted at this point.
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And I don't love to get a massage wasted. And it's happened like four times because of Vegas.
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And I'm like. And I've been up for like 36 hours, you know, but they don't know that. They're just like, think I showed up on the early flight. They don't know that I've been like.
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Like, you didn't go to sleep yet? Yeah, yeah.
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So we go to the spa, we do the massage. Then they're like, okay, dinner is at John George. Like, it was like this. I was so excited for it. Like, John George, 7:30, everybody meet there. I go back to the room. I. And, and I have a Bellagio. I have that same suite at the Bellagio that we, that I've gone before where like the. It's like the two bedrooms in the living room in the middle and it overlooks the fountains.
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Oh, hell yeah.
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I sat down on the couch and fell asleep till nine o' clock the next morning. Missed dinner, missed dinner, missed the night, missed everything. I have no recollection of it. And my cousin said that they were like shaking me and I never even made it to the bed. I was just in the couch in a bathrobe, like my balls out. Like old man. Like Rodney Dangerfield meeting a young comic.
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That's probably. You probably woke up feeling like a million bucks.
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Amazing.
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It was 15 hours sleep, the next massage. Yeah.
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And then it was like the pool party the next day and I was like, really loving it, like.
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And everyone's hungover and tired.
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No one was happy but me. I'm like, I'm gonna go hang out with DJ Pauly D. They' like, yeah, do you, man?
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If there's one thing more important than the game, it's the snacks. That's why Gorton's seafood is bringing the ultimate crunch to game day. Try seafood sliders with our crispy fish fillets or pair our popcorn shrimp with a sauce lineup for an appetizer every fan will love. Whether you're a sports super fan or just here for the snacks, Gorton's has the crunch to keep any crowd satisfied for game day. Visit gortons.com for game day recipes.
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Along the lines of why you and I are so similar. I'm going to be in New York for your premiere of your special and I leave the next morning for Las Vegas.
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Dude, I. Honestly, if my. If Jesse wasn't getting married the next morning, I'd be going with you.
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Yeah, you would. I'm going to a music festival. When I'm there, I'm going to see when we were Young. The fuck.
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Oh, we did that. I've seen. What did we see to get. We saw Kendrick.
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Yeah, no, that was a different festival. We saw Kendrick and Weezer at something else.
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Weezer was awesome that night.
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Yeah, Weezers at the. When we Were Young too. It's like the headliners are Panic at the Disco and Blink. I don't really know those guys that well. I don't. I mean, I don't like that.
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Interesting.
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The two sub headliners that I. I'm pumped about are Weezer and Offspring. And then the real bad, the reason I'm going is I'm going with a bunch of Long island guys because the movie is playing in that.
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That's huge. Yeah, but that sounds. First of all, the movie life is that big now.
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No, they are like super low on the. You know what I mean? Like, it's a project. Yeah. Oh, it's. It's amazing. It's a huge. It's a bunch of like. Well, yeah. And funny, I'm bringing this up because Henbo plays our upcoming guest. Henbo, the tattoo artist that gave. That gave me my Arthur tribute and our matching dice and like four other of your jaunts.
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Yeah, and all my tattoos.
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He plays in a band with some of the movie life guys called Night Sports.
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Is he going to be there?
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I wonder. I got to message him.
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I gotta hit him up.
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Yeah, I get another tattoo in Vegas at a festival on. Oh, bro, speaking of music, I saw LCD sound system and Pulp at the bowl on, like, the Perfect Dose of Mushrooms. I had a fucking time, dude. I walked like three miles there and back from my place and just fucking. Was just dancing the whole time to.
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You walked there?
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Yes, dude. The fucking game changer. It took an hour, but it takes like 40 minutes to drive when there's traffic. Like it was only, like. It's only like three miles from my place. So I just powered through.
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I've had. I've had it. I. I think I feel like concerts have been the only thing that I have that have gotten me through a fairly distressing, long, sad summer.
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Well, you saw Oasis what, three times?
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I saw him twice and I would have paid anything to do to go more like. It was the best show, one of the best concerts I've ever seen. They played the same set exactly note for note twice and both nights were the best show I've. It just goes to show you that that doesn't matter. That like.
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No, I was like, I would. I would have gone back if I didn't have plans the Friday night. I would have tried to get LCD tickets again right away. It was just such a fun show. I don't even care if they play the same again. I listen to the same albums over and over again.
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Exactly. Yeah. I think it'll be fun to see Offspring actually. I just.
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That was like one of my first CDs though. That was like. Yeah, 1994. I got that smash when I'm in my car don't give me no cr. The slightest thing and I just. Mind's not bad.
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I feel like what they. They really like where they. They. They had a tipping point of Pretty Fly for a white guy, which was like where everyone was like, yeah, I'm good.
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Yeah, I. They lost me on that too. But that first album with Self, like.
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Punk, it was like no Effect style. Like. Yeah, I mean I love that song. That's like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know that one. The chorus is like.
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Yeah, yeah. Lying in my bed Laying wide awake Demons in my head it's more than I could take. I wish.
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It'S gonna be fun. That'll be fun.
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Yeah, I'm stoked about it.
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Panic at the Disco. I only know that one song.
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I'm actually. When I said it out loud to you, I was like, like wrote down on a post it note here at my desk. Note to self. Listen to Panic at the Disco. Maybe you like them. Like I don't love Blink, but I'll be happy to be singing along to blink.
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Yeah, yeah. Blink 182 is going to be inducted in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. And their best selling album is called Enema of the State.
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Good for them.
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Wild.
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You know what I. That show Hoppus on music that was on Fuse in the late aughts. I was a recurring guest on that and yeah, and I got to know Mark pretty well and he's, he was fucking so normal and cool.
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Yeah, he's normal.
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The funniest thing is you'd be, you'd be like walking into the building and like a guy, you know, like any dash of feeling old next to you would be like a 50 year old guy with like a rockabilly hair, air walks and like high socks and like plaid shorts and I'm like, okay, you know what, you're inspirational in that you're still dressing like a 90s punk.
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Yeah, truly he is. He's still dressing like a skate punk. I believe he's had like pancreatic cancer.
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I know dude's been through it. We gotta get him on the pod. He's been staying.
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Great. I also want to speak to the alien guy because one of the blinkies, right, Tom, one of them believes in aliens and that's the one I need to speak to.
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Well, I think, I wonder. They all might believe, but one of them has made aliens a big part of his thing. Life. Yeah, he's like, he's got the government to like let release information. Like he's like, he's like, yeah. On a non profit that's like for like. Yeah, that's such a dedication to the craft.
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I wonder if he's have. Is he been proven right yet? Like, are these things aliens? Like, do we have aliens? Are aliens here now? Like, is that like, where are we? Are we on that?
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Yes.
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I feel like we can't decide as a culture. We're like, we're everyone's like on the fence of being like, aliens are not real. Or everyone's like, no, no, no, they're real. Like, where are we?
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I don't know. Where are you? I think they're real. I used to think that aliens arriving or evidence of aliens would like bring us all together. But I do think we're too far. More like in, in a, you know, less positive way. More like, oh, maybe humans should stick together and this is our new enemy. You know, some like that.
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Right?
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Or like instead of just each other. But I, I think we're like too far gone. I feel like the aliens will show up and people be like, they're liberal. Kill them. And then we, yeah, the aliens actually use the wrong pronouns. We should kill.
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Like everyone's like these fat aliens.
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We got to get these fat gay aliens out of the military. I'm fucking hammered.
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That speech was wild.
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That was fucking crazy. That was like watching like 1994 Microsoft rally where, you know, the crowd Is full of fucking, like, guys in these general outfits not reacting at all to a fucking alcoholic with. With, you know, Nazi tattoos screaming like, we people be less fat in the military. Like, okay, bro, I don't think it's. I'm sure we don't have to leave this in, but I don't think it's a good sign that one day in the same day the president is going, saying, you are anti capitalism is considered terrorism, and then the Secretary of War is in another room going, we will start killing motherfuckers. No more footing around. It's like, yeah, yeah.
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And then.
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And Trump is saying shit like, we're practicing war in the major cities. And then another guy is saying, and we're fucking going lethal on him. I'm like, this doesn't bode well for, like, Portland protesters. This seems like a fucking bad news, dude.
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Oh, yeah? Yeah. I wouldn't want to be one of those people making content that's like, I'm in the dangerous city of Portland right now, and I'm about to get a matcha latte. Oh, my God, it turned me gay. Like, as much as I think that content is funny, if I were you, I'd stop making it.
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It. Yeah. Oh, God. I'm obsessed with. There's, like, this series of videos I got served of, like, hot goth and, like, punk and alt chicks holding hands with, like, military guys, being like, I'm writing you from the front. The front lines of Portland, Oregon.
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But then I also saw one recently, was like, Portland. It was like the military was walking towards these young people, and they all had fishing rods with donuts on them. Them. Like, it looked like they were baiting them.
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On the. Along the same lines, in D.C. there's a guy who films soldiers and police walking around playing the Vader's March behind them.
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I mean, that Chicago guy, that guy that ran away from them in Chicago is a hero. Looney Tunes that looked looney Tunes.
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Like, I just love you hear the cops or the ice, go, go get them. And they don't get them. It's so funny. Fall. Not that I could run in any gear, but I'd also get caught on the bike, too. So I. I shouldn't talk.
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Yeah, no, I can talk about all this because I would not be either one of them.
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Yeah, yeah. I'd be at home playing Steam Deck.
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I'm already in a camp. I'm kind of already in a camp. I live in New York.
B
Adam, it's always so fun to do this stupid fucking podcast with you. The saving grace of my life is that we get to talk once a week or 25 times a week, and the audience gets to hear it. One time.
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Truly, it's a dream. I wish we were getting paid for it.
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I know someday. Someday we'll get let into the Smartless phone deal and we'll start making money.
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Or at least just send me a phone.
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Yeah, give me free nights and weekends. Could you Will? Damn it.
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I'm out here fucking spreading the word.
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See you guys at the Hollywood Bowl. Hey, until then, stay alive.
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Damn.
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Got you. You have been listening to Staying Alive with John Gabris and Adam Pally. A Smartless Media production in association with Sirius xm.
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Produced by Devin Tory, Bryan Bryant and Anne Harris. Engineered and edited by Devin Tory Bryant, who also wrote the music.
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Associate producer and video producer is Matty McCann, social media producer Tommy Galgano assistant engineer Kyle McGraw.
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Special thanks to Jared O' Connell at Sirius XM.
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Executive producers are John Gabris. Ooh me, Adam Pally. Ooh you Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Richard Corson and Bernie Kaminski. Do us a favor. Just rate and review the podcast. It actually helps. Helps.
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Just so everyone knows we do not have a discord.
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Don't reach out to us.
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See us on the street. Walk the other way or you'll catch hands.
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Smart less.
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If there's one thing more important than the game, it's the snacks. That's why Gorton's Seafood is bringing the ultimate crunch to game day. Try seafood sliders with our crispy fish fillets or pair our popcorn shrimp with a sauce lineup for an appetizer every fan will love. Whether you're a sports super fan or just here for the snacks, Gortons has the crunch to keep any crowd satisfied for game day. Visit gortons.com for game day recipes.
BONUS: You Hear Me Rollin’ (Catch-Up Episode)
October 6, 2025 | SmartLess Media
In this bonus “catch-up” episode, comedians and best friends Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally reconnect after a long stretch apart. They candidly discuss the modern health struggles of midlife, their ongoing quests for wellness (amid old habits), recent travel and gig stories, and riff on pop culture, touring, and the state of the world—all with characteristic raunchy honesty and humor. This episode is lighter on expert interviews and heavier on friendly banter, but it remains anchored in the show’s “grossly forthcoming” approach to men’s health and self-care.
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[04:29–05:54]
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[11:41–15:32]
[16:59–21:56]
[22:07–23:38]
[23:40–26:07]
On Algorithms:
Adam on Trying to Sell Fernet:
On Late-Night Snacking:
Adam on Self-Sabotage:
Jon on Festivals:
On Seeing Oasis:
On Aliens and Society:
On Political Dystopia:
Show Closer:
The episode is marked by rapid-fire banter, self-deprecating humor, and honest takes on midlife wellness struggles. Jon and Adam’s friendship is front and center, with in-jokes and a conversational style heavy on pop-culture references, nostalgia, and playful cynicism.
Summary for New Listeners:
If you’ve ever wrestled with staying healthy while staying social, or if you just love hearing two old friends riff about food, wellness, music festivals, and the absurdity of current events, this episode’s wide-ranging, highly relatable conversation offers both laughter and small insights. Their raw, off-the-cuff humor is balanced with moments of surprising vulnerability and practical health wisdom—shared by two guys just trying to “stay alive” in every sense of the phrase.