
On this episode of Staying Alive, hosts Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally sit down with their good friend, SNL superstar Ego Nwodim, to talk primarily about menus, but also being literally thirsty versus slang thirsty, pitching sketches with a dislocated shoulder, discovering that American cheese isn’t real, and how she changed her whole relationship to fitness with grace and compassion. We’ll also learn about Pally’s $50 box of cereal and the results of Gabrus’ 23 & Me. Keywords for this episode: beverages, Jason Momoa, inverse narcissism, Martha Stewart, Upright Citizens Brigade, Amy Poehler, Mary Holland, Drew Tarver, Lauren Lapkus, comedy hot, Saturday Night Live, Whiplash, The Town, Nate Lang, cock relations, Solid Core, Danny & Coop’s, L'Appartement 4F, Trivoli Tavern. Follow Ego on Insta @eggyboom, check out her podcast Thanks Dad with Ego Nwodim This episode was recorded March 14, 2025 at SiriusXM studios in New York City Special thanks to Jared O’Connell Staying Alive is pro...
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Adam Pally
Smart.
John Gabris
Bless me.
Eggo Wodom
Hey, everybody, Sean Hayes here. Listen, this podcast is not intended as a substitute for a physician's medical advice. My pod sons, John and Adam, are not doctors, to say the least. And even when they have doctors on the show, they aren't prescribing you anything. They don't even know you. Listen for entertainment, not advice. Good. Okay, good. Enjoy the show, everybody. I hadn't gone to the dentist since, as I put it before the solar eclipse, and I went last year for the first time. I'm not. Because every time I'd go, they go, your teeth are so clean. You take such good care. And I go, this is like a scam. And so.
Adam Pally
But are you a doctor person? Are you like. Are you easily, like, I don't like going to the doctor.
Eggo Wodom
I'm not interested. Well, mainly because.
Adam Pally
Welcome to Stayin Alive. I am Adam Pally.
John Gabris
And I'm John Gabris. We host a wellness pod. We are.
Adam Pally
We're not experts.
John Gabris
We're not experts. Arguably, most of our guests aren't either, but we're gonna engage in conversations about what wellness is.
Adam Pally
Yeah. Today we have one of my favorite people.
John Gabris
She's absolutely the best I've performed with her. You. You shot a TV show with her?
Adam Pally
She's. She's fantastic to do it again. She's the greatest, the funniest. And I will. I'll also say, like, I've been on set with a lot of people, like, you know, for long hours, and you're working and you're like, sometimes you get along, and sometimes you don't get along. And sometimes people like to talk about important things, and sometimes people, like, talk about nothing. Ego is the best person I've ever been on set with because it's just bits, bits, bits. Where are we going to eat tonight?
John Gabris
Yeah.
Adam Pally
That's all you need, and that's what you want.
John Gabris
That's all you need in life.
Adam Pally
That's what you want. Yeah. Yeah.
John Gabris
Oh, man. One of the first times I really met Eggo, she was doing monologues at ascat, and we were about to go on stage, and I was hosting, and I went, hey, weird question. Confirm how I pronounce your name, because I'm afraid to it up once I get up there. I, like, panicked as I was walking away. I was like, got this. And I was like, wait, I need to ask you. And she's like, the fact that you asked is brave.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
Eggo Wodom
I was like, thank you.
Adam Pally
It is.
John Gabris
I was always. I lose.
Adam Pally
I didn't ask. The first time I met Her. I pronounced the N. Yeah, you're not. The end is silent.
John Gabris
Yeah. If he. Another friend of mine who is Nigerian American, he explained to me and Demi, like, you learn that the end is silent and you're like, got it. That's confusing for me.
Adam Pally
But the end should probably mostly be silent.
John Gabris
Yes.
Adam Pally
I think especially, like, I don't see.
John Gabris
No reason to say she hits like. She. She hits hard, like us. She works out hard, eats hard, parties hard and bits hard and works hard.
Adam Pally
And the first bit she ever did and she will not. I. I know I can tell this story. The first bit she ever did with Steph Curry was we. We were shooting. They hadn't met yet. They had just met on Zoom when we were doing the table reads and we were on a golf course, so it was like expensive day, you know, tensions are a little high. And she. Steph comes over and he's like, I'm a big fan of snl and. And we're all meeting, and then he's like, this is my bodyguard. He's a bodyguard. And she goes, oh, yeah, I heard you got him from Diddy. Right? The look of panic on Steph's face. The look of pure panic on Steph's face. Like, what are you talking about? And it was so much so that you don't see this with comedians a lot. She had to go, I'm just messing around.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah, right.
Adam Pally
I was on the ground laughing. It was the funniest.
John Gabris
I'm hearing this story fourthhand in life.
Adam Pally
It was the funniest bit ever, ever, ever. And she deserves the crown.
John Gabris
Yeah. Well, let's. Let's see what Eggo's doing to stay alive. Ladies and gentlemen, Eggo Wodom. Does Eggo have all 12 of her beverages? And we're ready to get cracking.
Eggo Wodom
I mean, you know, I'm a beverage.
Adam Pally
I even brought one for her.
Eggo Wodom
Yes. And I'm gonna be having that.
Adam Pally
Having brunch. Having brunch with eggo.
John Gabris
We're taking two pee breaks in this 45 minute conversation.
Adam Pally
If you've never had brunch with Eggo, it's basically like getting an.
Eggo Wodom
And also me yelling, as you know, every time I eat.
John Gabris
Yeah, yeah.
Adam Pally
No, no.
Eggo Wodom
I was tired of people not eating and asking me to dinner. I'm like, don't ask me to dinner.
Adam Pally
The first time we went out, Ego asked me. She was like, you eat, right? And I started laughing. I was like, you're in the right place.
Eggo Wodom
I'm like, I don't want to hear about the diet. You're on. I'm not doing it.
John Gabris
I'm not here for that. Well, we're not. At least not at this meal.
Eggo Wodom
No, not here.
Adam Pally
In fact, Gabrison and I, the last time we went out to. To dinner, we had sugarfish, and we, like, ran through one of the. Or you know how you order. Like, we ran through it right away and we theorized, you know, if we, like, really didn't eat all day, I bet we could go through two of these tops, back to back.
John Gabris
We were trying to debate if we could do a third and split it or if we could do two to the dome each. Like, trust me. And then be like, yo, I still trust you.
Eggo Wodom
I really, really trust you.
Adam Pally
Actually, I don't trust to bring me enough sushi.
John Gabris
Rack up the negimaka, baby.
Eggo Wodom
I'm here for it. Because people don't eat. And I'm like, I'm not into that.
Adam Pally
I hate a breakfast meeting.
Eggo Wodom
Also, breakfast is the weakest link of meals. The weakest. I think I. Gabri, don't.
John Gabris
Here's the thing I like about breakfast. When I go. Going out for breakfast seems like an insane treat.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah.
John Gabris
Because that's not something I ever like. I'm like, if I'm up early and I have to meet somebody and I'm having bacon, eggs, coffee, not breakfast.
Eggo Wodom
But me, not you, not you, breakfast.
John Gabris
Having to look at me with bacon and eggs in my beard.
Eggo Wodom
I'm in hell.
John Gabris
I'm in hell.
Eggo Wodom
Not a breakfast.
John Gabris
That's our date. Are you having fun?
Eggo Wodom
I'm in the house. I wish. I wish a man on a date. And I don't want to go down a deep dive about my dating. I just have to say that.
John Gabris
Yeah. We got the email from your publicist.
Eggo Wodom
From my publicist?
John Gabris
Yeah, we asked her about. We heard what happened.
Eggo Wodom
I'm traumatized. No. So I.
John Gabris
And Jason Momoa also wouldn't say any.
Eggo Wodom
Oh, my gosh. Jason, Honestly, the man's supposed to set me up. He's due for a text from me.
Adam Pally
Well, in order for him to set you up, he'd have to stop unboxing hatchets.
Eggo Wodom
I'll let him know. I'll let him know. That's your feedback. So I'll reach out to.
John Gabris
Feedback from the boy.
Eggo Wodom
I'll reach out to him. But I wish men would say, are you having a good time? And obviously, you guys are both. You both look stuck and scared. Cause I've said I don't want to go down a deep dive. So there's a proseed in Your eyes. You're like, I don't want to ask you.
John Gabris
No, but this is completely.
Eggo Wodom
But I do. I wish they would ask because I think many of them would find out.
John Gabris
No, you should go on a date with a Jewish guy. He's like, are you okay?
Adam Pally
You. How often do I ask if you're okay?
John Gabris
Are you mad at me? What's wrong?
Adam Pally
Text you? Are you mad at me?
Eggo Wodom
Are you mad? I just want to make sure you're not upset.
Adam Pally
I'm literally at taking stock of how you're doing all the time.
Eggo Wodom
I need to go on a date with the Jewish guy.
Adam Pally
You really. You really do. There's so few of us, though, that are like, okay, everybody.
Eggo Wodom
I feel.
Adam Pally
Maybe. But like, especially lately, like, I feel like Jewish guys. It's like, we're not in a good place.
John Gabris
20 something. 20 something years of friendship. Every once in a while he'll say something to me and I'll be like, yeah, fine, whatever. And then I'll see him sit for like a minute and he's like, it. Are you mad at me? Sorry, my reaction was like, that strong. But I could just tell that here.
Adam Pally
I'm working on that. Actually. That is one of the things I'm working on because. Cause it is. It is signs of like a narcissistic. It is a narcissistic part of me.
John Gabris
Like, am I having this much of an effect on you?
Adam Pally
Yeah, yeah. Because it's like. And even, like, it is a shameful part of my existence. But like, even, like, if I'll text you, like, hey, like, are you, like, are you mad? Or whatever.
John Gabris
It's like clogged your toilet.
Adam Pally
Many times.
John Gabris
I'll use my trailer toilet from here on.
Adam Pally
With ego at work, oftentimes she is mad at me and it is my fault.
Eggo Wodom
Yes. Yes.
John Gabris
It's separate of the. When you're actually, actually mad at me. Which is frequently.
Adam Pally
No, but like, you know, like, I think it is working on my therapist. Like, it is a narcissist, an inverse narcissism. Because you're like. The fact that I would think that everything is about. Is about me or, or my behavior or my, like, even my, like, mood would alter the way someone else is dead. It's. It's wildly.
John Gabris
Yeah, I didn't think about it like that, but I see what you're saying.
Adam Pally
Yeah, it is. And like, I'm working a lot. I'm trying really hard to, like, notice when I'm. When I'm doing that and like, what else is going on? Like, is it maybe just like, I may be feeling like I'm missing that person. Maybe that person. Maybe what I'm trying to say is like, hey, how you doing?
Eggo Wodom
Yeah, yeah.
Adam Pally
It's like. And instead I've. I've created this thing in my head where they're mad at me.
John Gabris
Well, that's how I know I'm not doing great emotionally is when I'm like, get a text back from like a lifelong friend, like Rogers or something or you. And I'm like, oh, man, I pissed him off. And I'm like. And the text is like, no, I can't make the movies that night or something. I'm like, I must have done something.
Eggo Wodom
They don't want to come to the movies.
Adam Pally
That is something I do all the time too. I will internalize. Like, hey, you want to get a drink? I can't. It's me.
John Gabris
And I'm like, what did I do last night?
Eggo Wodom
Yeah, well, you know, nothing anybody does is about you and everything everyone does is about them. And that is one of the four Agreements, which is one of my favorite books.
John Gabris
Oh, hell yeah.
Eggo Wodom
Very self helpy. But when I real, like, I read that like five years ago and I was like, oh, my gosh, you're. Whoa, nothing. Everything everyone does is about you, about them. And that's even paying you a compliment is about that. Like, it's. They're in a place where they feel like they can be so generous as to say a thing, but if they're having a bad day, that same person will be like, you're a piece of shit. Right?
John Gabris
And so you're like, guys need to ask girls how they're doing on dates. How you doing? You're a piece of shit. Hey, I know. That's all you. Don't worry about it.
Eggo Wodom
It's all you.
Adam Pally
Right back at you want to get dinner?
Eggo Wodom
This is a you thing.
Adam Pally
You know what I mean?
Eggo Wodom
We're all a little narcissistic though, too.
John Gabris
A little. Thank you. That's the highest compliment.
Adam Pally
I mean, for us.
John Gabris
I'm actually the best at being narcissistic.
Eggo Wodom
You're so good at it. I can confirm.
Adam Pally
I think I'm pretty good at it.
Eggo Wodom
I mean, I'd say Pally's up there.
Adam Pally
As well, but I feel like we're all, especially in this industry. It's hard not to. Especially at this stage of the industry where like, your livelihood is you. You're. You know, Eggo is a business. This is a brand. It's like Adam is.
John Gabris
And I'm invested huge And I'm selling.
Adam Pally
It all and I'm shorting the market.
John Gabris
I'm doing a crypto rug pull with my echo coin.
Eggo Wodom
You might want to pull the funds soon. You might want to pull the funds soon because anything could happen over here. You might want to pull a Martha Stewart.
Adam Pally
Ego. You came up at UCB in la.
Eggo Wodom
Yes.
Adam Pally
Did. Did you? Because we came up at UCB in New York, but I had that feeling coming up at ucb, that exact feeling. You're talking about where I would, like, linger too long around. You know what I mean?
John Gabris
Where like, ASCAT was getting ready.
Adam Pally
Yeah. I'd come off, like my student show and ask Cat was getting ready. And you'd see, like, you know, Tina Fey talking to Stephen Colbert in the corner. And you just kind of like linger.
John Gabris
Over, like, these are my friends.
Adam Pally
To be like, I guess I'm part of it.
Eggo Wodom
I'm in this. I hope someone gets a picture of this. And it's like, I was here with these.
Adam Pally
Truly. Truly. That. That was like the. The like, was. Was LA like that or is it different because it's.
John Gabris
It's already Hollywood?
Eggo Wodom
It's already Hollywood. I think LA was a little different. And I also, I. When I came up at ucb, I, like, didn't know what UCB was and I took a class begrudgingly. Like, honestly, I didn. I didn't know. And I had. I had made friends then once I got to ucb, they're still my friends who were like, when I knew, because I read this book that when I got to la, the first thing I was gonna do is get an apartment and then, like, get a. Get in a class at ucb. So I didn't know. And we were already in Hollywood. I. I don't. I. I'm also not like, I'm not like, the most thirsty. Not at all. No.
John Gabris
Agreed.
Eggo Wodom
I'm one of the least with my five beverages.
John Gabris
But I am only literally thirsty.
Adam Pally
Thirst.
John Gabris
And I'm not slang thirsty. I'm legit thirsty.
Eggo Wodom
I have other issues. But being thirsty, we'll get to them. But being thirsty, I don't think is at the top of my list, per se. And so there are performers I remember admiring. I think watching Mary Holland on stage, I was like, legend. Who is she? How is she so good? Getting to watch Drew Tarver and Lauren Lapkis. Like, I was so enthralled by them, but I also was. I also didn't really know. I didn't know what was going on. If I'm being totally honest. Like, I Took an improv class begrudgingly. And I was like, fine, I'll take this class. Yeah, exactly. I was mad about it.
Adam Pally
Yeah. And you get there and you're like, woo. Woo.
Eggo Wodom
Like, I'm literally wooing savage socks passing. Like. And so I did it. And then I did fall in love with it, and I really loved it, but I didn't know. Even the Amy Poehler of it, like, came to me later in time where I was like, oh, that's who. She's here. Yeah. Who I think is so cool, by the way. Like, she seems, like, incredible.
John Gabris
Like, one of those surprisingly cool for the level she's at, which is, like, says more about the industry than about Amy, where it's like she looked me in the eye and said hello, and it's like, she's really cool. Remember, she's down to earth. It's like, yeah, the bar.
Adam Pally
So literally solo.
John Gabris
You're like, they didn't treat me like that celebrity.
Adam Pally
Amy remembers my wife's name.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah.
Adam Pally
She's an amazing person.
John Gabris
I can't even keep track.
Eggo Wodom
You don't know his wife's name?
John Gabris
It's something with a D. It's all right.
Eggo Wodom
She loves you.
Adam Pally
She loves you.
Eggo Wodom
She loves you.
Adam Pally
Gambo.
John Gabris
No, because Adam and I have been with the same partners for so long. I met Daniella when I met Adam, which was also 20 something years similar.
Adam Pally
I met Tiffany. Yeah.
John Gabris
Tiffany and Danielle hit it off 2004.
Adam Pally
Yeah. We got put on the same Herald team. I had just. Daniel and I had, like, just started dating again when we moved back to New York.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah.
Adam Pally
And we got. And I got put on a Herald team at that. At that, like, exact time.
Eggo Wodom
Okay.
John Gabris
It would be like, I think it was 05.
Eggo Wodom
Okay.
John Gabris
That's literally 20 years ago.
Adam Pally
And. And the. The funniest dude on the team was Gabriel.
Eggo Wodom
Oh, wow.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
Eggo Wodom
Okay.
John Gabris
I know. It's funnier.
Adam Pally
Debatable.
John Gabris
He's caught up in pants.
Eggo Wodom
Would you rather be the most. Most handsome man in the room or the funniest man in the room?
Adam Pally
No question.
John Gabris
Is it improv room.
Adam Pally
That's like a world's tallest improv room. I'm Already am.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah.
John Gabris
I'm £310 and I'm in one of the better shape improvising. My doctor, when I said my. Asked my cardiologist what I should do for health, he put a gun with one bullet on the table, and I'm still in the top 10 percentile of health at UCB.
Adam Pally
Well, good thing you're like, oh, you hate medicine.
John Gabris
He's like, yeah, I got one pill.
Eggo Wodom
You should take one pill.
John Gabris
Take two of these in the morning. Right in the back of the head.
Adam Pally
I mean, you. Did you ever deal? Speaking of, like, improv hot. You are.
John Gabris
You are Hollywood attractive.
Adam Pally
Yeah, I'm trying to be like, co worker.
Eggo Wodom
Don't shoot me.
Adam Pally
No, I'm kidding.
Eggo Wodom
But you can pay guys. I also. Public service announcement. You're allowed to pay compliments if you're not being weird about it. But I guess some guys don't know what being weird is, and that's where the problem is. But I think they know. I think men know.
John Gabris
You have gorgeous feet.
Eggo Wodom
Thank you so much.
John Gabris
According to Wikipedia, weird one, you're gorgeous feet.
Eggo Wodom
Can I touch them?
Adam Pally
Yeah. No.
Eggo Wodom
Is it okay? He doesn't think my feet are gorgeous.
John Gabris
I've seen the.
Adam Pally
I don't think I'm shocked that the feet was the feature.
John Gabris
I've never seen them. I've only drawn them. Yeah.
Eggo Wodom
Wiki feet thinks I have good feet.
Adam Pally
Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. I just.
John Gabris
My guess would be I'm not even a foot guy. My guess would be, you know, like. Okay, yeah.
Eggo Wodom
Well, it's because I feel like if you're. If you any. No, I can't say that.
Adam Pally
No, what I was going to say. Leave that in. Was gonna say, was there. Is this term, like, comedy hot?
Eggo Wodom
Yeah.
Adam Pally
Which I have. Which I've heard quite a bit. You transcend that.
Eggo Wodom
Thank you.
Adam Pally
Did you ever. Does that? Ever does that. Was that ever a thing? I'm serious. Because, like, I don't know what it's like. Like, I don't know what it's like to be, like, normal hot, where you're also in comedy and then you're, like, making people laugh. Like, are people ever, like, fuck that.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah. No. Well, you know what? Thank you, first of all. Thank you. But what I'll say is I did not not grow up with, like, my attract. I wasn't like a. I did ballet for 10 years, but I wasn't like, my mom's pretty little girl. And so I was like, kind of a tomboy. And I think I still have some of that in me, but I. My level of attractiveness, like, just never occurred to me whatsoever. Like, whatsoever.
John Gabris
That's part of the allure too, because she doesn't even.
Eggo Wodom
She doesn't even know.
Adam Pally
I think it truly, like, dudes are probably like, she's even. No.
John Gabris
And then it's like, I'm the one who's gonna tell. Not ask her once.
Adam Pally
And then it's like some dude. Some dude's like, you know, I go, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And it's just I see you differently.
Eggo Wodom
I'm not the shrug. Okay, well, here's what I'll say. When I was like 14, on a bus, we like, went to Hershey park for a field trip or something. I remember. I. I don't know. Will I get sued if I say someone's first and last name that I happen to remember from middle school?
Adam Pally
We can bleep it out if you.
Eggo Wodom
Want, but I don't even. It' kid named Curtain. And if you ever listen to Curtains for Curtain. Curtains for Curtain. Curtains for Maybe that's a sketch. Okay.
Adam Pally
Oh, God. You've been working there too long.
John Gabris
Finally I got something.
Adam Pally
I got off week. I got to write that down.
Eggo Wodom
I got to see if he'll write a Curtains for Curtain sketch. He won't. Spoiler.
John Gabris
This is perfect for Benson Boone.
Adam Pally
Head trauma pitching Benson Boon scotches.
Eggo Wodom
That's legitimately what it's like in the hospital. I have pitched today. I dislocated my shoulder at the subway station going to work, and I was like, I need to go to my fitting for my pre taped sketches with my shoulder out of sight.
Adam Pally
You're a seller in whiplash at the end.
Eggo Wodom
Yes, exactly. I love that. I don't, I don't know a lot of movies. That's a fun fact about me. But they're very fun. I know. Very fun fact. The best movie I've ever seen. I've said it a million times. The town.
John Gabris
Oh, shit. Okay.
Eggo Wodom
Don't get me started.
John Gabris
I talk about how hot Ben Affleck is for like 5.
Adam Pally
I heard ego say that so many times, and I now have that feeling, you know, like when you're with. With a friend or like your partner for a long time and they like going to tell a story you've heard a bunch and you're like, it doesn't make you look good.
John Gabris
Hey, babe, you're the bad guy.
Adam Pally
Favorite movie is the Town.
John Gabris
I mean, I. I love it for a long time.
Adam Pally
I love that movie too. It is good. But it's like so legitimately like, it's Boston bromance. It's like, it literally is like Boston written like, the lines are literally like, I can't even.
John Gabris
We're gonna need to hurt some people.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
John Gabris
Who's driving?
Adam Pally
Exactly.
Eggo Wodom
Friendship.
John Gabris
Friendship. The themes of friendship, that's non toxic male friendship.
Eggo Wodom
Non toxic male friendship. Right. Or not.
Adam Pally
They'll go hurt someone for each Other.
Eggo Wodom
Yes, it's beautiful, but Whiplash, I constantly am saying to people, not quite my temco. Not quite my tempo.
Adam Pally
Yeah, not my tempo.
Eggo Wodom
Not my tempo. No, no, no.
Adam Pally
It's okay, Colt. My son is, like, obsessed with that movie for sure. He just loves it. And we went to. It was re. Released imax.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah.
Adam Pally
Like, recently. It's like nine in the morning. A couple weeks ago, I was at Lincoln center, like, watching. Watching Whiplash and on this giant Imac. And the music is amazing. Also, our boy Nate Lang, he was.
John Gabris
On an improv team of mine called the Law Firm.
Adam Pally
For a while, I was on that team. Yeah. He was one of the funniest people ever. He tested for SNL a couple times. He has this, like, really straight man rock.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah.
Adam Pally
And he was the other drummer that took over, you know, actual studio. He's a studio.
Eggo Wodom
Okay.
Adam Pally
He's in a great movie. But when you. When you re. Watch it, it is so intense.
John Gabris
It's like anxiety.
Eggo Wodom
Yes, it's an anxiety movie. And 9am is crazy. Another cuckoo banana. Did you have breakfast that day?
Adam Pally
Yeah, I snuck a bagel.
Eggo Wodom
I'm disgusting.
Adam Pally
I snuck a bagel into the theater. Everyone around me, it was making that sound. It was making that sound. I felt like an orthodox person on an airplane.
Eggo Wodom
Like, people were, like, trying to do it. And you're like, just. Just make the noise.
Adam Pally
My son was so mad at me, and I. When I stopped, he's like, don't bring a bagel in. And I was like, no one's going to be in here. It's nine in the morning.
John Gabris
I'm hungry.
Adam Pally
He's like, dad, don't. And I was like, shut up. I'm doing it. And then I got in there, it's packed with, like, film nerds.
Eggo Wodom
Oh, yeah.
Adam Pally
It's like, just totally packed.
John Gabris
All drummers.
Adam Pally
John Bon Mars, Ulrich, it's all the best drummers. And I'm like, he's eating. Everyone's normal. And I just pull the bagel out of my pocket, and it makes, like, a little crinkle opening. And then I'm like.
Eggo Wodom
And you get the looks. And you get the looks. You get the looks.
Adam Pally
Everyone starts looking. And I can feel my son be like, dad's.
Eggo Wodom
Did you ever think you'd be an embarrassing dad?
Adam Pally
No. I always thought I was like, it's still shocking. Cause I still think that I'm the coolest dad.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah.
Adam Pally
And it's so. They don't think that at all. They don't think that at all.
John Gabris
You might be you might actually be the coolest dad, but that's. Yeah, they don't know they're your dad. So you're already in a category.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah, they.
Adam Pally
So, like, we had. They're having their bar mitzvah this week.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah.
Adam Pally
And they're being. We. We were meeting with, like, the dj, and he's trying to get a vibe for them, you know, and he's like, so, you know, what are your favorite musicians? What are your favorite. This. What are your favorite actors? They gave a list of actors. 10 people long. 10 people long. And I was sitting there, like, literally, Gigi's like, Adam Sandler, Jack Black, Amy Schumer, just. And. And then Cole's like, oh, Jake Gyllenhaal. Like, they're just like. They're just, like, running down this list. And I'm sitting there, Ben Schwartz, Gilo's area. Like, literally going. And the whole. And. And then finally after the. The DJs like, cool, cool, cool. I felt I was like, you know, I am an actor to them. And they're. They're like, yeah, but you're not my favorite. And it was so. It's like, you, man. Like, I am a lot of kids favorites. Like, there are a lot of kids out there by. When I was like, who wants me.
John Gabris
To be their dad?
Adam Pally
Like, your friends.
John Gabris
Everyone at the DJ plays, like, looking around. Another one.
Adam Pally
I was so shook. I was so upset. Like, really, Like. Like, hit me hard. But it. It. I guess it's like, par for the course, but. But it sucks to be, like, not cool in your own house.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah. Sucks.
Adam Pally
And. And to think you're cool outside of it is a horrible.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah.
John Gabris
Is that.
Adam Pally
What were your parents like? I mean.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah, well, my mom was. I mean, I never thought of my mom as cool, but I don't think. I don't think she thought of herself as cool either.
John Gabris
Didn't matter.
Eggo Wodom
No, I don't think it mattered. Like, yeah, that's. I don't. I don't think anything mattered besides, like, just making sure you set yourself up for success.
Adam Pally
We were just talking about that before you came. Like, there are certain cultures that are, like, suck. Cess. Driven.
Eggo Wodom
Yes.
Adam Pally
Like, very much so. I feel like you come from one of those.
Eggo Wodom
Yes. Nigerian households are very. That. Yes.
John Gabris
Yeah. The way I profile or stereotype is the ethnicity of the doctors in my hospital. So frequently Nigerian, South Asian and Asian and Jewish. I'm like, clearly, you guys, that's like 10 years of school, and you got to do good the whole time.
Eggo Wodom
Yes. You gotta do Good.
Adam Pally
Similarly, I feel like there was a pressure. I mean, I failed that pressure right away when I was like, but, you know, you. You have to do good in school. Like, it is intense in your house if you're not.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah. And, you know, my mom, it's interesting. She. It's. She's just. Because I was raised just by my mom, I didn't feel, like, crazy pressure. It's almost like this expectation just ingrained in you. Right. So, like, if the pressure was maybe there, but I didn't feel it in that way where it's like, ones over your head. And, like, my mom used to have an issue with, like, why do you guys have to go to school all day? And then they, like, you're in school for eight hours, and then they give you homework. She'd be like, that's very messed up. She's like, I think that's messed up. She's like, yeah.
Adam Pally
She's like, your mom's awesome.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah, she's actually really cool. But she is cool. But I didn't think of her as cool.
John Gabris
Like, no one does.
Eggo Wodom
No, she's just. She's mom. And now, like, my friend last night, we were at dinner, and he's like, this is so crazy. I remember my dad's 40th birthday, and I remember thinking, like, vividly, like, dad's old, and Now I'm approaching 40, and it's like, that's a mind fuck. Cause also no kids. And his dad had two kids by.
Adam Pally
The time he was.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah. Completely different world.
John Gabris
I remember my mom's 30th birthday, and I'm 43. I was like, 8 or 9 when my mom turned 40.
Eggo Wodom
Damn.
John Gabris
And now I'm 40 fucking 3. Italian American households are a little different. They want you to either have a really good scam or own a deli.
Adam Pally
Right?
John Gabris
Those are. They don't care about college. They're like, wait, you're saying you could overcharge your boss for your mileage or whatever? Like, that's the shit that my Italian. Italian family loves because.
Adam Pally
Or they're, like, psyched if, like, if you have a good relationship with your uncle who works construction.
John Gabris
Oh, yeah.
Adam Pally
Or.
John Gabris
Or if, like I was telling you earlier, like, the Hell's Kitchen, like, stage hands.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
John Gabris
They're like, 75 Italian.
Eggo Wodom
Really?
John Gabris
They. They. My grandpa and dad, they called it relations. And it's like, we know him, and it's like, how do you know him? It's like, relations, which just meant, like, their family somehow.
Adam Pally
And I was like, that is so cool.
Eggo Wodom
Congratulations.
Adam Pally
The crudest shit ever.
Eggo Wodom
It is what it is. It is what it is.
John Gabris
Where do you think the term white trash comes from? My 23andMe came back 75% white trash.
Adam Pally
I didn't know that.
John Gabris
I don't think I'm supposed to say this.
Eggo Wodom
I didn't know. 70% white trash.
John Gabris
Ego. We always ask all our guests this question, so maybe you can help us answer it. What are you doing to stay alive?
Adam Pally
Currently.
Eggo Wodom
Ooh. Okay. Right now. Okay. Because I dislocated my shoulder and I can't work out if you had asked me. I slipped in the subway station at 30 Rock. I slipped. It was but like Final Destination style because I slipped on a Thursday. On Tuesday, also at Broadway Lafayette, carrying a matcha. Like almost fell backwards. Like on the flat platform. Have no idea the it was. It's too oily in there. In the winter, the salt melts and then it's not water, it's oil and.
John Gabris
And it's very green. You can like do this. You can do like.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah.
Adam Pally
And the tile, the. What they put on all the subways is like this bathroom tile.
Eggo Wodom
Yes.
Adam Pally
I do not know why it can't be stone.
Eggo Wodom
Yes, it should be stone.
Adam Pally
Why is it not stone that does not get wet?
Eggo Wodom
Like, I. I agree. Because I've. I've hurt myself. And so I. I fell. Fell almost fell on Tuesday, but didn't somehow. And then on Thursday did fully fall. Different subway stop. Fell, shoulder dislocated, popped out of its socket. Yeah.
Adam Pally
You got Sue. Sue.
Eggo Wodom
People keep saying sue the city, but here's the thing. I got in a car accident in like 2017. I was rear ended on Fountain Avenue in Los Angeles on a Sunday morning. And this man was like, I'm sorry, I gotta hurry up and get outta here. Here's my information. It's my wedding day. I gotta go. And I'm like, okay. Like stuck. And that process took like five years to get $2,000. Yeah, it's not. It was.
John Gabris
Yeah. Like 600 emails photocopy and.
Eggo Wodom
Exactly.
Adam Pally
Also you don't want to be on page six. It's like ego wodom of snsuing city. Mayor Adams. It's like you and.
Eggo Wodom
Or do I in my sling. They were like, wear this for a week. I'm still supposed to be wearing it right now. But I'm like, it's no, I'm not about to be doing the fits. Come on.
Adam Pally
So good. Those loafers are amazing.
Eggo Wodom
Thank you so much.
John Gabris
So you can't go to the gym, which I guess Is a regular part of your fitness.
Eggo Wodom
I was obsessed with a workout called solid core, which is like Pilates inspired, intense. So abusive.
Adam Pally
They have one of those in Beverly Hills by the Rite Aid. But you gotta take an elevator. It's like a glass thing. We gotta take an elevator.
Eggo Wodom
They might. I've only been in la. I've been to the West Hollywood location. In the Hollywood and Pasadena.
Adam Pally
Okay.
Eggo Wodom
But it's an intense. It's so intense. It's not for the faint of heart.
Adam Pally
Are you gentle?
John Gabris
Are you seeking that out? Do you like, not a very intense workout or.
Eggo Wodom
Okay, so this is a whole conversation I had at dinner last night with someone, my friend who runs like a Pilates inspired company of her own that's far more gentle. And there's all sorts of. I don't know how boring we want to get here. But she was like. But she. She was like, you don't need to be doing that intensive a workout. And when I met her, like a couple years ago, she told me that. And then I was like, oh, this injury is crazy because I actually can't do the workout now. I mean, I'm tempted. I'm so addicted to the workout that with my injury, no, I just had to get an mri. Like, they think I tore something, like my labor. It's like, yeah, I'm so crazy and I'm so addicted to it that I was like, but maybe I can still, like, pull it off. Even though the whole workout is on your shoulders and it's planking. It's like planking. You're in high planks, low planks the whole time. And the doctor was like, do not do that. And yesterday I woke up, I was like, I feel kind of okay. I wonder if I could just go, I didn't do it, but like, full addict. But anyway, my friend was like, do not. You shouldn't be doing intense workouts like that because you already work a stressful job and a high intensity job, and then your workout being high intensity is making your cortisol spike. Like, and that will make you bloated. It will make you retain that stress hormone reaction. Like, yeah, inflammation will be a problem for you. And like, anyway, it's crazy. I. Now I have to figure out a different workout because I'm like, it is too intense. But that was my thing. I was like, addicted. Solid, solid, solid.
John Gabris
What did you like about it? The intensity or did you.
Adam Pally
And what's the class like? Are you like, Is it like jumping on a trampoline?
Eggo Wodom
No, there's like a Reformer. But it's like an intense reformer. It's very heavy and lights are down, it's blue. Good music. Depending on the teacher. Depends on the teacher.
Adam Pally
I have a couple class. I'm a class guy.
Eggo Wodom
I'm a class. I'm a classic. I was. I was not a fitness person at all. But then I decided it matters.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
Eggo Wodom
Like in the last few years. Yeah.
John Gabris
Ego. You're touching on something that we're pretty much like, unpacking on this podcast over the course of the season is like, you eventually get to an age where you're like, I kind of have to just really think about health and fitness now. Like, and it's not. I don't feel old and decrepit, but I'm starting to see, like, I could maybe, maybe fix some things or head some things off at the past.
Adam Pally
Isn't it weird when you meet someone who doesn't now? Like, I. I am always taken aback when, like, you know, you're on a new. A new project or something and you start meeting the cast and everybody and there's someone there. Because there always is where you're like, talking about what you're doing. What are you gonna do tomorrow? Oh, I'm gonna get this. And someone's like, oh, yeah, I don't work out.
Eggo Wodom
You know what's okay. Yeah, okay.
Adam Pally
And you're like, what? Yeah, like, how. How do you do that?
John Gabris
They're always a skinny motherfucker and they're.
Adam Pally
Always skinny and look good.
Eggo Wodom
I think I was that. But now what happened for me is that. And I'm stunned. Cause I have a few friends back in LA who are also like, I don't work out at the gym. No, no way. And that was me. And now I see them on Instagram and I'm like, oh, yeah, you're into it now. But what happened for me is that my mom was a single mom, worked so much, so, so much, now has this back injury from a car accident and, like, didn't rehab it, which was upsetting to me. Like, she knows better. She's a doctor. Why wouldn't you rehab your back injury? And then the only way I could not be upset with her and be like, what the fuck? And just be mad was like having a moment of compassion where I'm like, I guess if I just hustled the way she did for 60 plus years and only worked, worked, worked, worked. Like, went to med school with four kids. She is a grinder. I'm like, I guess by the time I get to the age of 60, I would be burnt out. And the notion of introducing fitness to my life at 60, probably not. I'm 30 at the time. I'm having this. I'm like, 32 at the time I'm having this thought. And I was like, I don't want to work out now. And I'm agile and, like, young and vibrant, and I'm not burnt out. And I was like, if I was 60 and I did all that she's done.
Adam Pally
Yeah.
John Gabris
I'd be, like, crusted over.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah. Just.
John Gabris
Let's let it ride. How many years exactly?
Eggo Wodom
I'm like, am I gonna sort. I'm gonna start working out now. And so I started working out because of this sounds. This is not funny. But I'm like, oh, I'm. I'm like, I started working out. Cause I'm like, I want to have grace and compassion for her and not be upset. And so if I can do it differently than she did. And, yeah, I don't want it to be hard to introduce fitness into my life when I'm 60, and I want to make it a part of my life now. And so my whole goal a few years ago was to change my relationship with fitness, and so I did. But then it's become this weird addiction. So weird.
Adam Pally
Yeah. A lot of times that happens, though, because there is a dopamine that. That's really sweet. Like. Like anything like that makes you feel good. And you may not like it, but it makes you feel good. So your body's like, we should do that again.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah.
Adam Pally
You know, and then you get really.
John Gabris
It's like being 12 and homesick and jerking off while the price is right is on. You're like, well, I think we get a few more of these in before that mom gets home from work.
Eggo Wodom
Is that what you were up to, kri?
John Gabris
That's what I was doing, unfortunately. The one I. I was like, I'm going to stay home sick from school and crank off five times in junior high.
Adam Pally
He still can't hear that theme song. It's Papinko Michelin, baby. I mean, I. I feel like I had it similarly in a similar way, because my father went to medical school with three children, not a single parent. But my mother did not exercise ever. It was not ever something she did. She was really unhealthy. Her father died at 44. She died at 53. Just didn't move ever. And my father was crazy. I mean, he's yoked. He's like, still. He's like a seven. He looks like. And I'm not talking like Alec Baldwin. And it's complicated, Jack. Like, my dad is like, jacked up. He's got the weird veins that old men have, you know? Yeah, yeah, he's like, old men pack. Like.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah, he's.
Adam Pally
He's in better shape than I am. And I as a kid hated how much he exercised. Like, I. It made me.
John Gabris
It's a little embarrassing.
Adam Pally
Yeah, it was embarrassing. I was like, ugh, stupid.
Eggo Wodom
Like, yeah, even me. Like, when people say to me now, oh, you're a fitness girl. I'm like, chill. Yeah, no, no, I like food.
Adam Pally
I eat.
Eggo Wodom
I. I eat. But I get very like, Keenan was asking me what I do for fun. Cause I'm like, if you're gonna invite me to the club, I gotta mentally prepare. Give me two weeks notice so I can like really make it to the club with Keenan. I. I'm like, I just need to like, it's not even about how he clubs, but it's more like me going to a club at this point. I need to like, emotionally prepare for it.
Adam Pally
I don't know how I would even make get through, like, once it hit 12.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah.
Adam Pally
Like, are we going to another club.
John Gabris
Or can we get going to the diner now?
Adam Pally
Yeah. Are we calling. I saw a cheese. Bradley Cooper selling cheese St.
Eggo Wodom
Which by the way, I need to hit that. Have you been.
John Gabris
That looks awesome.
Eggo Wodom
So good. I got it. Screenshot.
Adam Pally
I'm like, I had it. I had it in Philly.
Eggo Wodom
I'm ready. Oh, you did?
Adam Pally
Okay. It's a. It's a chain. It's. It's Angelo's Cheesesteaks, which is in Philly. He opened.
Eggo Wodom
Okay.
Adam Pally
And it is life changing.
Eggo Wodom
Favorite cheesesteak in Philly. Just to say out loud, no one asked Jim, I know people say patch.
Adam Pally
But I'm Jim, I'm telling you. This, this will change.
Eggo Wodom
Okay. Yeah.
Adam Pally
This will change your mind on that. Because like his. I'm always rolling jizz. This. This what they do in. In Angelo's and. And Bradley Cooper's is they use like an expensive provolone and instead of throwing it on and melting it, they whip it so it's almost like it's a white. White.
Eggo Wodom
Okay, I'm so in. Cause I'm all for. Here's the thing. I had to get out on Wiz because I'm very weird about so staying alive American cheese. When I found out about eight years ago that it wasn't real, it was maybe eight or nine years ago, life changing. I had to stop fucking with it. I'M googling. I'm like, what? What is American?
Adam Pally
Cheers.
Eggo Wodom
What is it? Can't find an answer. Maybe now the Internet has updated, but I kid you not, my Herald team, it was a whole thing with us where I was like, guys, American cheese isn't real. And I was like, someone Google it right now. Tell me what the ingredients are. We could have. Everyone's like, someone like, yeah.
Adam Pally
What?
Eggo Wodom
Yeah. I was like, fine. So now I changed my whole in n out order. No cheese. I don't. Because it's American cheese. There's.
Adam Pally
There's things that you don't know what they are that are so edible and good. Like a Twinkie or I don't eat that.
Eggo Wodom
So this I like. This is good.
John Gabris
This is good. Knock that out. I mean, I can't because I'm a pig.
Adam Pally
But like I can't remember last time I had a Twinkie.
John Gabris
No, I, I'm good at avoiding like legit junk food. It's like savory bad stuff that I have a hard time avoiding.
Eggo Wodom
I think you can. So here's my thing. I'm not even about eating healthy in terms of like, oh, I'm not gonna have a cheesesteak or I'm not gonna have a Twinkie esque thing. I will have a Twinkie from a, like an, an artisan bakery, but I'm not gonna have like a Twinkie out of the box from the grocery store. Like, I'm not gonna do the apartment 4F. The apartment 4F which is down the street from me.
Adam Pally
They DM me.
Eggo Wodom
They did.
Adam Pally
And they were like, thank you so much for using our product in the show. If you ever want to come down, we'll give you a within an hour.
Eggo Wodom
Well, where's my free box? Because I'm in Le apartment 4F at least twice a week and I'm. And I'm buying.
Adam Pally
I bought a box probably. No, they didn't give me the box. I bought the box.
Eggo Wodom
You had to buy the box.
Adam Pally
But I got. Because they didn't have to wait online.
Eggo Wodom
Okay, you didn't.
Adam Pally
Which is like cuz the line.
Eggo Wodom
Well, I'm wa. I'm waiting online. I'm paying for all my shit.
Adam Pally
I went right in, got the box, ate the box. One sitting, the whole box.
Eggo Wodom
That's crazy.
Adam Pally
Apartment 4F, the croissant cereal. Croissant cereal cereal. That is like think of like a cookie crisp, but like a croissant croissant. It's probably. I probably ate like 10,000 calories in one sitting. The box is $50.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah, it is. It is. It is. When I bought it and then I posted it on Instagram, I was a little like, does this soak suspicious? Does this suck of me exactly. Like, does this absolutely suck of me that I bought a $50 boxes?
Adam Pally
What's going on on weeks that you got that you're working with your workout and your food?
Eggo Wodom
Okay, so are you.
Adam Pally
Are you just like, you work on.
John Gabris
A show that has famously a difficult schedule? How do you handle that?
Eggo Wodom
I. So this is where the. The herein lies issues. So, like, Mondays, we're kind. We're. I say we're off, but this is how sick this is, how much we work is that I tell people, I'm like, I'm off on Mondays. But I. We're not off on Mondays, actually.
John Gabris
We just work a awful day.
Eggo Wodom
Yes, it can be exactly. We work like an hour on Mondays. And I'm like, we're off. But I. I still have to go in. We meet the host. But I on Mondays will try to work out and take a class. Tuesdays, I found that solid core. This was my conversation last night. I found this season formally, I was like, oh, doing a solid core on Tuesdays. Which is when the week ramps up and it starts to get highly emotional. And we're up all night writing on Tuesday. I go, I don't need someone. Someone yelling at me with loud music and the blue lights and the movement of solidcore already is intense. It's like very slow. And you're working muscles you did not know you had. You could be the most. Like my former personal trainer, she was like, if I took that class, she's in great shape. She's like, it would be horrible for me because it's different muscles.
Adam Pally
You're working shit that you've never worked.
John Gabris
That's like such a fun meme now. People love that shit. They're like, football player gets out of breath during Pilates. And it's like, it's so true. Like, you can be in great shape, but we're all built for different things. Things like a triathlete can't get on the bench and do as much as a power lifter. But if you make a power lifter run a 5K, it's gonna be.
Eggo Wodom
It's gonna be a surgeon. Exactly. And so, like, I. I realized I can't do that intense workout on Tuesday. But I. I was. And I do in terms of. And then as the week goes on, I like, try to sneak one in on a Thursday. Like, one time this season. I Tried to run on a Saturday for like a mile before I went into work. I did it, but I'm like, it's not an enjoyable run. Cause I also knew I had to go to work, and I was, like, running a little behind, so it was like, nah, nah, not fun, but eating. She's eating out every day. She's eating out every single day. I've said this a million times over. This is another one of the, like, spouse stories you've probably heard, which is that every time Mikey Day said to me, like, two years ago, he's like, every time I look over at your phone, which he shouldn't be doing, he's like, you're looking at menus, and it's real. I'm always planning what I'm gonna eat if it's not.
Adam Pally
That's why we hit it off so well. Like, first day of throwback. I think we were both on menus.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah. I'm like, menu.
Adam Pally
I get that.
Eggo Wodom
I am menu.
John Gabris
I'm fucking talk about. I've had to actually stop this behavior to learn to be more present and not talk about other food while I'm at a meal. Like, I've had to say, like, okay, we can talk about what tomorrow's dinner is after this meal. I don't even want to, like, because even when you're eating, you do that whole, like. Like the version of. Did you see this movie? Did you, like, you're like, oh, this burger is great.
Adam Pally
Oh, have you had.
John Gabris
Had Blue Ribbon Burger? It's like, no, not yet. And it's like, oh, have you had. Oh, dude, the bur. You know what burger I love? The Oshaval burger. And then all of a sudden, you're like. And it's like, you just finished your food, and you're like, you've only been.
Eggo Wodom
Talking about other foods the whole time. I'm. It's insane, though, like, my obsession with good meals. And I feel like I remember years ago, my friend Sydney, like, I was here for DCM Improv festival or whatever, and my friend Sydney, who's not in improv, we got up, she lived in the city, and I was like, you haven't had artichoke pizza. Now be like, be. Be kind to me. This is like, seven years ago. Yeah.
John Gabris
I still don't hate a slice of artichoke.
Adam Pally
No. Have to know that if you're going to have one slice of the creamy artichoke pizza, you got to be within.
John Gabris
100 meters of a toilet.
Adam Pally
That's it for the day and the night.
John Gabris
I Can I sweat that oil out? Like, after I have it? Like, I'm combing garlic out of my beard. I got a fucking clove popping.
Eggo Wodom
I was. I. I said to her, I took her to artichoke. She got it. She wasn't fucking with it. She got two big slices, like, one artichoke and one something else. And I remember her throwing it away and being like, there's just too. Life is too short to eat bad food. And I was like, honest, I'm not mad at your philosophy.
Adam Pally
No.
Eggo Wodom
She was like, I don't like that you took me here.
Adam Pally
I'm not going to eat that.
Eggo Wodom
I'm not going to eat that. I took out my thoughts.
John Gabris
I need to learn that.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah.
John Gabris
Because I get really mad at myself because I'm like, I overate last night. But I was at this delicious restaurant. So fine, live life.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah.
John Gabris
And then I'll be like, I overate last night. And I hated all of it.
Eggo Wodom
And that's. I'll catch my. Like, I'm doing a better job now of, like, catching myself and being like, you're not enjoying this? You don't like this thing you're eating right now? Like, if I really don't like it, no problem. But if it's me mid, like, it's. That's when I'm catching myself better. I'm like, going, when it's mid, I'm like, I'm not enjoying a stop.
Adam Pally
Were you brought up with, like, clean, clean your plate policy?
Eggo Wodom
Kind of like. No. Well, no.
John Gabris
What does, like, a family of African descent say? Because the white families always say, hey, they're starving kids.
Eggo Wodom
And. And my family be like, there are starving white children in Greenwich.
John Gabris
Starving South Africa.
Eggo Wodom
Starving white racist. They're starving white trash.
Adam Pally
Kate Moss has not had a meal.
John Gabris
Nothing tastes as good as skinny. Feels.
Eggo Wodom
No. My mom. My mom was not big on wasting food at all. But I also, like, didn't have the same appetite I have now. Granted, it'd be things like making me eat breakfast, which is like, what a good mom should do with her kid. But the funny thing is I'm older now, and, yeah, I still don't fuck with breakfast. I didn't like it when I was 7. And they'd be like, yeah, and I still don't like it. And so I knew. And there's also so, like, certain foods that my family would feed me that I'm like, I don't like this. And now in my adult, I still don't like it.
John Gabris
So, quick breakfast question. Do you not like Breakfast foods. Like, if you were to have a. If you were to meet up with someone for brunch at like 1 or 12:30, would you eat eggs and shit like that or the breakfast like genre doesn't appeal.
Eggo Wodom
Here's what I'm gonna say.
Adam Pally
You're not gonna offend anybody. We don't have a message board and we don't interact with our.
John Gabris
But front porching is always the best. Like, oh, okay, I got you. I'm gonna say something fucking crazy about waffles. It's like, so low stakes in the end. But you're like, all right, here's the thing about me.
Eggo Wodom
Here's what I'm gonna say. Breakfast, wack as fuck to me. I also hot take. Don't fuck with cereal. So when we were talking about, like, so I bought that $50 box and I was like, maybe. I think anytime I'm eating cereal and EP, who is one of the EPs on Mr. Throwback, he heard me saying, this is someone where I was like, I don't fuck with cereal. Anytime I'm eating cereal, I'm kind of like, how does it. How has it come to this? There's so much good food in the world. I'm like, I'm kind of disappointed that that's what I'm having. But if I go meet up with someone for brunch, I'm still. I'm genuinely just not thrilled to be having what I'm having. And I'll have eggs, but I'm like, okay.
John Gabris
Sometimes the brunch menu will have like a burger or a chicken salad.
Eggo Wodom
But then I'm like, it's just. It feels too early to be eating. And I, like, will binge at the end of the night. I mean, this is a very. I'll forget to eat until. Until. Which sounds very eating disorder, but it's. And people be like, you haven't eaten all day. Are you good? I'm like, trust me, I eat. But when I do eat at 8pm or 6pm for the first time I'm eating, it's a tsunami. Yeah, it's a tsunami. We're having a meal and then we're having a kind of a second meal.
Adam Pally
But I do that. I do that too sometimes. Especially late. Lately, over the last couple years, I've noticed. And I feel like you saw this at work. Like, I don't like to eat lunch at work. I think feel like it's. If I. If I have to eat lunch, like, if it's like a 5am call, and by the time we're stopping at 2. I'm starving. I'll try to get like sweet greens, a salad. Just something not from the lunch cart. Because once you walk over there.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah.
Adam Pally
It, they're like, we have banana. It gets a little bigger. You have a lemonade. It's like, you don't need that.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah.
Adam Pally
The whole thing is like too much. And I found that when I come back, back, like the whole half of the day is just me waiting for it to be over.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah. Because you get, you get the itis.
Adam Pally
Yeah. Like I found that.
John Gabris
I've never called it that.
Adam Pally
But I find that.
Eggo Wodom
Not even with your friends? Not even alone with your friends.
John Gabris
We called it that my whole life growing up, even with my black friends. And then I just like started saying it. Like in my 20s. People were like, I know you're only saying the suffix, but it's still bad. Okay. And then what happens when people are 15 minutes late? Is there a word, a three letter acronym for that? No, you don't say that. I'm learning a lot. Thank you. New York City.
Adam Pally
Seems like you learned a lot in the wrong direction beforehand.
John Gabris
Oh yeah. We'll let you into a little bit of the genetic trash element.
Adam Pally
But like you, you. I couldn't like work and so I started not eating at work and like I feel like my work got better.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah.
Adam Pally
But as a result, then also when 9pm rolls around, I hit that.
Eggo Wodom
No boo.
Adam Pally
You know.
John Gabris
Yeah. When you're like done for the day and you do the math and you're like, I don't have to be back here till nine for nine hours.
Eggo Wodom
Hell breaks. It's crazy.
Adam Pally
In Chicago.
Eggo Wodom
All hell.
Adam Pally
I would hit those restaurants, there'd be a different Italian restaurant that was like five stars around the corner every night. Yeah.
Eggo Wodom
Dream.
John Gabris
I'm actually going to Chicago in a, in a couple weeks before I come out here again.
Adam Pally
So I got.
John Gabris
Hit me, hit me with a reco.
Eggo Wodom
You know, I really liked our. Me and the goat, which I thought was going to be overrated. Trolli Tavern.
Adam Pally
Troli Tavern was my favorite. For vibes.
Eggo Wodom
For vibes. Honestly, I was really with the food. There was a night I ordered from Duck. Duck. Goat. Is it. Cuz it's from Girl in the Goose. Sister restaurant. Yeah. So like. And I, I ordered into the hotel from there and I got a bunch of. I was like, okay, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to eat tonight. And I. And I was not with the food. And halfway through I was like, you don't like the. This ordered another meal, but I ate half of the first one. Ordered another meal from Tivoli Tavern. And this is like if I was.
John Gabris
A cartoon, I would have heart eyes right now.
Eggo Wodom
I'm not enjoying this.
Adam Pally
I'm like, we got Trivoli Tavern has like this little like outside area.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah.
Adam Pally
Every one of the spots that's there is like amazing. There's the rib place, the barbecue place. That's next to a coffee shop underneath Green Street. There's a ramen spot that uses the meat from Green Street. It's like a little like dangerous. It's dangerous.
Eggo Wodom
It's dangerous. But I want you to also. I keep hearing about a place called Ooi. It is. That is. Yeah. I think it's on the south side.
Adam Pally
So that reminds me of the Martin Lawrence. Do you remember the Martin Lawrence special?
John Gabris
That is.
Adam Pally
It run till that. Where he, where he. It's the. It's his first special where he talks about what happened when he got arrested. And it was, it was like a huge deal. I was like, I went to see in the movies.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah.
Adam Pally
And. And the. I remember the tagline of it, like the thing that played every time because it was all about like why he even said like, why is Martin Lawrence running down Sunset Boulevard crying in sweatpants with his sword? And then, and then like the big thing was like Martin being like, because I was smoking that. Ooh.
Eggo Wodom
It is basically that. It is.
Adam Pally
I gotta go there.
Eggo Wodom
You should. There's multiple locations and my sister in law told me about it. And then my friend Rashida, who's from Chicago was like, oh, yeah, that's the spot. But I never, I never made it out. I never quite made it out of the way. But it's like on my list, ingrained in my head. If you have time, I feel like you should go on our behalf.
Adam Pally
Chicago is also like, it's the best eating to work in cities by far. But there's also this like New Yorky because it does have a little bit of, of like grimy bar, getting out at four in the morning vibe.
John Gabris
Yeah, it's a drinking town.
Adam Pally
It's a drinking town. There. There were a couple nights where like I would, I would be with like David Casp at some bar and he'd be like, yeah, I lived right above this. You can get burgers in the bar. Like at the bar you can order a drink and then the person will turn around and flip a burger. Be like, cool. Four rats would just like run by. Oh, you know, and you're like.
Eggo Wodom
And the euros. And that's. And that's where you like lose me. And I'm not eating at a place with a be.
Adam Pally
I didn't eat there. I was like, cool. But like, you forget cuz it, it. The streets are wider.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah, it's.
Adam Pally
It's this. It's like for some reason not as like beat down as here.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah, yeah.
Adam Pally
So you feel like you're like, oh, this is going to be cool.
John Gabris
Oh, but this is actually.
Adam Pally
Oh, this is like Gangsterville. And like there's been like Al Capone ran this place into the ground. There's a second city underneath because the whole place burned down. It's like quite nefarious. I want to plug your podcast.
Eggo Wodom
Yes. Thanks, dad.
Adam Pally
Yes.
Eggo Wodom
You came on.
Adam Pally
I was the best.
Eggo Wodom
I'm gonna get you on. Yeah, yeah.
Adam Pally
But this guy's. This guy's got a lot of dad.
Eggo Wodom
You got a lot of dad.
John Gabris
I got mad dad issues and I'm. I'm a crazy good uncle.
Eggo Wodom
Yeah. See? And we're breaking the mold in the next season. It's gonna be every where everyone's. Everyone's invited because everyone's got dad.
Adam Pally
You did so well, right?
Eggo Wodom
Yeah, I think. I think it did pretty well. We wanted to do better. I want. I'm an ambitious bitch, so like. Yeah, what can I say?
John Gabris
This has been ambitious bitch with echo. Oh, that's a sketch I shoulder in my nose. I wrote too fast, basically.
Eggo Wodom
Yes, it's true.
Adam Pally
Lauren. I can't do writing night.
Eggo Wodom
I can't do writing night because I'm in a sling. I'm right dominant and it's my right shoulder. What can I do?
John Gabris
But I think I can do ambitious bitch at the best.
Eggo Wodom
Ambitious bitch. It's ch. Hit Colin up. Yeah. You guys will love her.
Adam Pally
Awesome. Thank.
Eggo Wodom
Thank you for having me.
John Gabris
Thanks for coming. Oh, man, that's so fun. She makes me laugh so hard. Her attitude and her phrasing for so many things are just. They just make me laugh. I'm going to eat.
Adam Pally
She's the funniest. I sent her the most embarrassing text after the first day we worked together. It was just like, it was just like, I love working with you. I love being with you. I love hanging out with you. Can we be best friends? Yeah. She knows she's the best, you know.
John Gabris
And I, I love her. I love following her on Instagram because I'll go through SNL like I'm a 20 year comedy nerd, so I'm like, I don't need to look at that. And then I'll stop when she posts a menu from a restaurant.
Eggo Wodom
Zoom in with this place.
Adam Pally
I know, I know.
John Gabris
And she, and that's a, that's a sign of what our fandom is, is that it's like, oh, cool, I love comedy, but move, move, move.
Adam Pally
Yeah, I know.
John Gabris
And she's always literally, she did an episode of High and Mighty about going to restaurants, and we just talked for like an hour and a half about restaurants.
Adam Pally
She's so out there. Like, she's out on the town. She's like, she's similar.
John Gabris
She's a good person to text about Rekos.
Adam Pally
And similarly, she lives life like we do. Like, if she's in a place to work, she's gonna go out in that place and eat and like, find some out there. Yeah. And like, that, that is a really nice thing.
John Gabris
Oh, yeah. Another reason why we got to get this show on the road so we could just get like, you know, we are health and wellness podcast so we can eat at food trucks across America so we can have giardia on our, on our health and wellness podcast podcast.
Adam Pally
Giardia, the Italian cook.
John Gabris
Oh, yeah, the little chopped up spicy veggie.
Adam Pally
Oh, sorry. Yes.
John Gabris
I ate breakfast at the Giada Cafe every morning in when I stayed at Caesars this last time.
Adam Pally
Really? Just hoping you'd see her.
John Gabris
Just because it was at the, the closest to my elevator lobby. Caesars too big.
Adam Pally
I, I'm not a Caesars guy anymore. No, I, I, I honestly, I am kind of only win Encore guy. Oh, I'm Encore is really small. It's got a really nice casino.
John Gabris
Cosmo centric because of the balconies, being able to smoke. I know, but I think I need to, I need to, I need.
Adam Pally
Cosmo is a fight. You get a fight every time. I have never not been in the Cosmo elevator with someone's like, what are you looking at?
John Gabris
Yeah, well, the energy at the Cosmo elevator and the Cosmo crab stables are like, I don't like them.
Adam Pally
Yeah, that's why the win. It's almost like people are older. So it's more like, that's more my.
John Gabris
Vibe because I want to go where the gamblers are.
Adam Pally
Yeah. The wind and the, and the specifically the encore is the one I like. But, but, but, but staying on that property, on that side is my new death.
John Gabris
Yeah, I might have to do that next. I, I, I have decided after staying at Caesars and not enjoying it that I need to establish loyalty. I need to create like, Yes. I need to pick a place and be like start from there.
Adam Pally
After the last time I was at the encore and I won so much. They have been emailing me every day for eight months begging me to come back so they can get that money back.
John Gabris
Yeah, well, tell him you want a two bedroom suite.
Adam Pally
I'm in. I'm in. We, we actually need like a five bedroom street because we need. We're going to invite ego, Dr. Rad.
John Gabris
It's gonna be like Sesame street for staying alive.
Adam Pally
Yeah. Thanks for, thanks for tuning in.
John Gabris
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Adam Pally
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John Gabris
Associate producer and video producer is Maddie McCann. Social media producer Tommy Galgano.
Adam Pally
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John Gabris
XM, executive producers are John Gabris. Ooh, me, Adam Pally. Ooh, you Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Richard Corson and Bernie Kaminsky.
Adam Pally
Just so everyone knows, we do not have a discord.
John Gabris
Don't reach out to us.
Adam Pally
See us on the street. Walk the other way or you'll catch hands. It's so nice that you're here on your 29th birthday week.
John Gabris
Thank you so much.
Adam Pally
That's so nice of you.
Eggo Wodom
29 though.
John Gabris
Yeah, but I am 29 though. Smart.
Staying Alive with Jon Gabrus & Adam Pally: Episode Summary - Breakfast & Broken Bones (w/ Ego Nwodim)
Release Date: April 24, 2025
In this engaging episode of Staying Alive, hosts Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally delve into the multifaceted world of health and wellness with the talented comedian and actress, Ego Nwodim. The conversation seamlessly blends humor with honest discussions about fitness, diet, personal challenges, and the cultural influences shaping their wellness journeys.
The episode kicks off with Adam and Jon introducing their guest, Ego Nwodim, highlighting her comedic prowess and the camaraderie she shares with the hosts. Adam shares anecdotes about working with Ego, emphasizing her down-to-earth nature and infectious humor.
Adam Pally [01:25]: "She's fantastic to do it again. She's the greatest, the funniest."
John Gabris [02:21]: "The first time I met Eggo, she was doing monologues at ASCAT... Her the fact that you asked is brave."
Ego opens up about her recent struggles with a dislocated shoulder, attributing the incident to slippery subway platforms. The hosts discuss the frustrations of dealing with such injuries, especially when it hampers their regular fitness routines.
Eggo Wodom [27:07]: "I slipped in the subway station at 30 Rock... and on Thursday did fully fall."
Adam Pally [28:50]: "So good. Those loafers are amazing."
The conversation shifts to the psychological aspects of fitness. Ego shares her journey of introducing fitness into her life, motivated by compassion for her mother's neglect of her own health due to her demanding career. Both hosts reflect on how fitness routines can become addictive, serving as coping mechanisms for underlying emotional issues.
Eggo Wodom [33:13]: "I want to have grace and compassion for her and not be upset. And so if I can do it differently than she did."
Adam Pally [33:56]: "There is a dopamine that... makes you feel good. So your body's like, we should do that again."
A significant portion of the discussion centers around eating habits, meal planning, and the challenges of maintaining a balanced diet amidst busy schedules. Ego candidly talks about her struggles with binge eating when she goes long periods without meals, likening it to signs of an eating disorder.
Eggo Wodom [45:06]: "Breakfast, wack as fuck to me. I also have a hot take: don't fuck with cereal."
John Gabris [43:20]: "I'll catch my... I'm doing a better job now of catching myself and being like, you're not enjoying this?"
The hosts and Ego explore how cultural backgrounds influence their approaches to health and wellness. Ego discusses the pressures within Nigerian households to excel academically and professionally, while Jon touches upon Italian-American family dynamics that prioritize certain professions and connections over formal education.
Eggo Wodom [24:15]: "Nigerian households are very... you gotta do Good."
John Gabris [26:00]: "Italian American households are a little different. They want you to either have a really good scam or own a deli."
Ego elaborates on the difficulties of maintaining a fitness regimen while juggling the demanding schedules of the entertainment industry. She highlights the importance of finding sustainable workout routines that complement, rather than exacerbate, everyday stressors.
Eggo Wodom [39:22]: "We're not off on Mondays, actually... I still have to go in."
Adam Pally [40:38]: "It's like being 12 and homesick and jerking off while The Price is Right is on."
Throughout the episode, the trio intersperses the heavy discussions with light-hearted jokes and personal stories. From debating the authenticity of American cheese to hilarious mishaps involving misplaced fitness enthusiasm, the banter keeps the atmosphere lively and relatable.
Eggo Wodom [37:19]: "But I got to see if he'll write a Curtains for Curtain sketch. He won't. Spoiler."
Adam Pally [36:09]: "This is like thinking of like a cookie crisp, but like a croissant croissant."
The discussion touches upon societal expectations and how they shape self-image and behaviors. Adam candidly admits to his tendencies toward narcissism and the constant need to check in on friends’ well-being, while Ego emphasizes the importance of understanding that others' actions are more about them than about oneself.
Adam Pally [07:03]: "But like, you know, like, I think it is kind of a narcissistic part of me."
Eggo Wodom [09:57]: "Everything everyone does is about them. And that is one of the Four Agreements."
Ego shares her disdain for certain breakfast foods and her commitment to avoiding overly processed items like cereal. The hosts discuss their own dietary preferences and the challenges of adhering to healthier eating habits amidst the allure of indulgent foods.
Eggo Wodom [44:51]: "Breakfast, wack as fuck to me. I also have a hot take: don't fuck with cereal."
Adam Pally [37:19]: "There's things that you don't know what they are that are so edible and good. Like a Twinkie or I don't eat that."
As the episode winds down, the hosts and Ego reflect on the importance of balancing wellness with the demands of their professional lives. They express excitement for future episodes and the continued exploration of health and wellness topics with diverse guests.
Eggo Wodom [51:35]: "Ambitious bitch... it's a sketch I shoulder in my nose. I wrote too fast, basically."
Adam Pally [56:21]: "That's so nice of you. Eggo!"
Ego Nwodim [09:57]: "They don't want to come to the movies. And I'm like, trust me, I eat."
Adam Pally [07:03]: "But I think it is kind of a narcissistic part of me."
Eggo Wodom [45:06]: "Breakfast, wack as fuck to me. I also have a hot take: don't fuck with cereal."
In "Breakfast & Broken Bones," Staying Alive offers a refreshing blend of humor and heartfelt discussion. Ego Nwodim's candidness about her health challenges and personal growth provides listeners with both laughter and valuable insights into maintaining wellness amidst life's unpredictabilities. Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally skillfully navigate the conversation, making complex topics accessible and entertaining for their audience.
For more insightful and entertaining episodes, subscribe to Stayin Alive on SiriusXM Podcasts+ or your preferred podcast platform.