Bridge & Tunnel: A Live Staying Alive at The Bell House! (w/ Liza Treyger and Carolyn Brown)

Summary

Staying Alive with Jon Gabrus & Adam Pally

Episode: “Bridge & Tunnel: A Live Staying Alive at The Bell House!”

Guests: Liza Treyger (comedian, host of That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast) & Carolyn Brown (nutritionist)
Date: August 28, 2025
Location: The Bell House, Brooklyn

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Episode Overview

In this live episode, Gabrus and Pally bring their trademark unfiltered humor to Brooklyn’s Bell House for a raucous, community-driven conversation about health, self-care, and the daily dance between indulgence and “wellness.” Joined by comedian Liza Treyger and nutritionist Carolyn Brown, they poke fun at their own habits and setbacks, interrogate the real meaning of "balance," and dig into practical (and laugh-out-loud impractical) advice for staying alive—psychologically, physically, and socially. The audience, fellow comedians, and even a luchador-masked attendee become part of the sprawling, self-aware chaos.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Absurdity of Wellness—Comedians' Style

• Why are these two hosting a wellness podcast?

  • The episode begins with future guests Allison Libby and Justin Tyler playfully asking why Gabrus and Pally, known for over-indulgence, are at the helm of a wellness series.
  • Gabrus sums up their philosophy:
    “Life is about balance.” (00:47, Gabrus)
    Adam and Jon’s “balance” means offsetting whippets and roast beef with the occasional lettuce wrap and sauna.

• Coping with Preparation and Recovery

  • Gabrus describes his show-day health routine: waking up early, running, hitting the infrared sauna, and eating a lettuce-wrapped roast beef sandwich—a clumsy attempt at “wellness.”
  • Pally, meanwhile, chronicled his late-night drinking, early-morning bodega run, and returning to bed until 1:30pm.
    • “I woke up at 6:30 in the morning and took a wonderful dump...ate that, smoked a J...and went back to sleep.” (04:54, Pally)
    • “I am 43 years old.” (05:21, Pally)

Comedy and Community: Liza Treyger Enters

• SVU Fan Theories and Guest Star Lore

  • Liza recounts favorite SVU guest arcs (Ludacris, Cynthia Nixon), shares a Robin Williams-on-set story, and jokes about her own “desperation” in front of a live crowd.
  • “She [Cynthia Nixon]’s a spider woman at the Natural History Museum…Her other personalities: pigtailed teen slut, then there’s a Russian bitch who will slap you.” (09:44, Treyger)

• Audience Dynamics in Live Podcasts

  • The trio jokes about people listening at home while driving, now unsure how to act in person.
    • “Most of these people are used to listening to our voice while they’re driving.” (07:56, Gabrus)

What Really Keeps You Alive?

• Lisa’s (Liza) Real-Life Survival Technique

  • Living above a coffee shop provides daily structure and social connection.
    • “Truly, the thing that keeps me alive day to day is I live above a coffee shop … I like being able to run on down and get coffee.” (14:18, Treyger)
  • The act of getting out, seeing people, and sipping an Arnold Palmer as a treat keeps her mentally stable—far more, she notes, than prescribed “healthy” behaviors.

• Medication, Family, and Wellness Baggage

  • Liza discloses a long-term thyroid issue and her complex familial relationship to medicine (rooted in post-Holocaust distrust).

    • “My dad would change the prescriptions on the pads … We were just kind of sick and not trustworthy of doctors, but also needed them.” (22:48, Treyger)

  • She also talks about Wellbutrin, describing antidepressants as a “miracle” when they work:
    “All of a sudden, I’m doing an extra errand, and I’m like, what the fudge? Like, it just feels incredible.” (26:05, Treyger)

Health, Habits, and Gentle Self-Sabotage

• The Reality of Routine

  • Hosts and guests unpack the difficulty of consistent habits: medication timing, brushing teeth, and taking vitamins.
    • “I’m not putting fucking retainers in…My teeth just went right back to where they were.” (21:04, Pally)
    • “Does everyone here really brush their teeth twice a day? You guys are fucked losers.” (21:19, Pally)

• Trying (and Failing) at Moderation

  • Adam: “I'm always like, no joke, being like, when is the last day I didn’t drink?” (37:59, Pally)
  • Jon: “Like, we always have someone on our podcast and they'll give us like, you should be doing this and this and this. It's like, well, sometimes my job lets me out at 11pm at night. And then you'll see the person go like, well, I guess you're gonna die young then.” (54:52, Gabrus)

Integrative Nutrition with Carolyn Brown

• Her Philosophy

  • Balance, community, joy, and nutrition all matter equally in “wellness.”

    • “Fun is really important. Joy is really important. As important as nutrition, community, laughter—all of these things are an essential part.” (39:37, Brown)

  • Rejects “everything in moderation” as the ultimate goal:

    • “I really don’t believe everything in moderation … I don't want people to feel moderately good. I really believe you can optimize and get to the point of feeling fantastic and living your life at that level.” (52:16, Brown)

• Personalized Wellness

  • Brown emphasizes personalized, adaptive approaches over one-size-fits-all plans.
    • “It's going towards really personalized wellness…which supplements, which food works best for every single [person].” (51:05, Brown)

• Practical Hackery

  • On snacks: Greek yogurt + protein powder, cottage cheese with chili oil, and real food over low-cal “spaceship” desserts, except sometimes (Yasso bars).
  • She’s not anti-indulgence: recommends “upgraded” versions of treats or simply enjoying the real thing intentionally.
    • “At a game, I might get, like, a giant pretzel or, you know, even a hot dog or something like this if there's, you know…or I might eat ahead if it was, like, not worth it to me.” (56:18, Brown)

• Food, Mental Health, and Upbringing

  • The group explores how family attitudes (Jewish/Italian/Holocaust survivor/middle America) shape relationships to food, restriction, and self-image.
    • “Did me growing up in an Italian American household where you were cheered on and rewarded for how much you ate…set me up for failure somehow?” (64:12, Gabrus)
    • Brown gently affirms the impact of these influences.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Balance. It's all about balance.” (01:40, Gabrus)
• “Nothing says health like reptiles being afraid of you.” (01:52, Treyger)
• On brushing teeth:
  “Does everyone here really brush their teeth twice a day? You guys are fucked losers. Yeah, I wish I had that level of free time. I’m out here beating Assassin’s Creed, the ninja one.” (21:19, Pally)
• On whippets:
  “I am the Jason Momoa of metal nitrous cartridges.” (01:05, Gabrus)
  “You can actually Postmate for the environment.” (49:01, Treyger)
• Integrative nutrition, bluntly:
  “I think our bodies are not calorie counters, they're not calculators; they're chemistry experiments.” (67:29, Brown)
• Moderation critique:
  "I really don't like that saying at all. Because I don't want you to feel moderately good." (52:16, Brown)

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Important & Funny Timestamps

• Host wellness origin story begins: 00:10–01:41
• Lettuce-wrapped roast beef sandwich saga: 03:43–04:30
• Liza discusses SVU/crowd dynamics: 07:01–10:07
• Lisa’s “Stay Alive” answer—coffee shop life: 14:18–15:45
• Thyroid medication/pharmacy trust issues: 19:17–23:08
• Antidepressants, Wellbutrin & the sudden jolt of energy: 25:51–26:28
• Exercise + cannabis routines: 29:19–32:42
• Camaraderie around Brooklyn’s food & city love: 17:00–18:54
• Carolyn Brown on joy’s role in wellness: 39:37–39:51
• Rejecting ‘everything in moderation’: 52:16–52:24
• The truth about eating disorders across genders: 54:10–54:39
• Audience Q&A / What would you get at a baseball game?: 56:15–57:03
• Debate over calories versus “good fats”: 67:29–68:22
• Snack hacks galore: 69:33–70:08
• Cocaine as a wellness strategy (joking): 71:09
• Audience reminded: “We do not have a discord; walk the other way or you’ll catch hands.” (72:36–72:40)

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Tone & Takeaways

• Irreverent, self-aware, raucous: The panel (and audience) delights in sharing the small “failures” and victories of adulthood—making this episode remarkably relatable for anyone trying (and mostly failing) to overhaul their health habits.
• Wellness Erased of Pretension: Both guests and hosts agree: Real wellness is less about restrictive diets and more about finding daily joy, community, and realistic, personalized habits.
• The ‘Bridge and Tunnel’ Mentality: The magic isn’t discipline or stoic sacrifice—it’s showing up, laughing at yourself, and sharing your survival strategies (however weird or embarrassing) with your chosen community.

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Additional Resources

• Carolyn Brown, MS, RD — Integrative Nutritionist (website)
• Liza Treyger — Comedian & host of That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
• Staying Alive Podcast on SiriusXM
• Eaton Gummies — Adaptogenic, wellness-focused cannabis edibles mentioned by the hosts

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For listeners new and old, this episode is a wild celebration of stumbling (often messily, sometimes hungover, but joyfully) toward staying alive.

Transcript

[A]

Smart. Less.

[B]

So. We're gonna kick it off with some questions. So if anyone has any questions, hold them. We. We have a couple questions over here. Oh, my goodness. You guys have microphones. That's so convenient. It is crazy.

[C]

Pretty wild.

[B]

Future guests of the podcast, Allison Libby and Justin Tyler. Give him a round of applause. Great to be here. I don't know. Yeah, sure. If you're a Brooklyn comedy fan, you've probably seen one of them.

[A]

Yeah, we love Brooklyn comedy.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Well, we just have a question because, like, why are you two hosting a wellness podcast?

[C]

Yeah, like, we know you.

[B]

We know you.

[A]

I think that you guys are misunderstanding that life is about balance.

[C]

Oh, balance. Doing so many. Whip it. You could open a recycling plan.

[A]

Well, gamers, I'll tell you right there. It's good for the environment.

[B]

Wow. Someone has to get these whippets off the.

[A]

You know, I.

[C]

We were all at work when that happened.

[A]

We were at work. A lot of people don't understand that. People. I am the Jason Momoa of metal nitrous cartridges. I. I have moved.

[B]

You're, like, a little fat. Yeah. What is that?

[A]

It means. Means I'm, like, fat, but also fit. I know. I've moved. I've moved the nitrous community away from plastics. Sorry, can you define the nitrous community real quick? Well, you got to find them quick.

[B]

It only lasts about 30 seconds. Very fast.

[A]

You got to find them quick.

[B]

Gabriel, you a dead snake on a dare. Ah, keto. Sorry.

[A]

Balance. It's all about balance.

[B]

I did barf, and I still think I might have some latent poisoning from that. But when I do go to the zoo, the snake exhibits, they all back up away from snakes. The snakes are like, not this guy.

[C]

Nothing says health like reptiles being afraid of you.

[A]

That's nature. And as a fellow cease fire Jew, I love it when he talks in tongues.

[C]

I'm a little ready for you guys to, like, take this stage the way Justin Timberlake has been taking his concerts.

[A]

I mean, this is kind of like.

[C]

Four seconds and then put the mic down and walk around.

[A]

I mean, honestly, would anyone be shocked if I said I had Lyme disease.

[B]

In the second half, Adam's going to pull my tit out and you're going to all get mad at me for some reason.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Give it up for Allison Ivey and Justin Tyler. Love you. Thank you so much. Our primary care for.

[A]

All right, thank you guys so much. Thank you for coming to the show. Let's start it up. Hello, everybody.

[B]

I cannot believe this many people showed up to watch a podcast. So this is the portion of the podcast where we normally catch up with each other.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And I am in town in New York and I was just wondering how you prepared for alive. Staying alive.

[A]

Well, we talked about this before. We, we, we. We both said let's, you know, we were both going to attack the day of the show differently, you know, and I, So I got up and that's.

[B]

An important first step.

[A]

Yeah, well, it's not always not guaranteed.

[B]

Knock on wood.

[A]

I got up, I did a run.

[B]

What?

[A]

I did a run. I did a infrared sauna. Then I had a salad. It was a wrap, but it was actually the wrapping was lettuce.

[B]

Where you had a lettuce wrapped salad.

[A]

Well, it's like a sandwich, but. It's like a sandwich, but the wrapping is lettuce. Like an animal style, Like a protein style. In N out Burger, but with like a salad.

[B]

I love that. Only you and I describe salad as, you know, like protein style. In N Out Burger, but only the green stuff.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And what was inside this wrap that you're like trying to pass off as salad?

[A]

Hot roast beef and hot roast beef.

[B]

Inside a cold lettuce and blue sheets and butter cheese. You were, you were eating a wedge salad in on the go.

[A]

That's what it was called, the wedge salad sandwich. Probably wouldn't order it again. Also, I was driving, so it was messy.

[B]

I, I had a pretty different day. Yeah, I stayed out last night drinking till I closed a bar down on a Monday night in Hell's Kitchen, which is a kind of a depressed. It was like me and three dock workers who were going to work.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I Woke up at 6:30 in the morning and took a wonderful dump. And while I was on the toilet, I got so thirsty I was like, oh, I'll go to the bodega and get electrolytes because I don't have shit till this show tonight.

[A]

Take care of your body.

[B]

I'm gonna recover. So I go to the deli and get electrolytes. I get Pedialyte zero. Cause I'm serious about my fitness. But I also get a bacon, egg and cheese and turkey on Herobred. And I eat that, I smoke a J, drink that, eat that whole sandwich and go back to sleep at 6:30 in the morning and don't wake up until 1:30 in the afternoon. I'm 43 years old. I woke up when the cleaning lady opened the door to my hotel and reeked the fucking farts and shit. So I'm prepared for the show as much. I mean, and backstage, I guess the.

[A]

Thing that steams me the most is that when I said, what are you up to this morning? After two hours of no response, you wrote busy.

[B]

Oh, I didn't have a five mile run in me, bro. I was, like, trying to fucking.

[A]

I wasn't gonna invite you to that. But we have. We have. We have excited guests.

[B]

Enough about us. We have. We have friends. We have scientists. We have. I guess that's it. We have friends that are scientists and some scientists that are friends. Friends that are comedians. Comedians that are friends.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is that enough of an explanation of who our guests are? So let's. Enough of this bullshit.

[A]

Yeah. Let's bring some, like, someone actually talented.

[B]

Yes. Let's bring out a fucking hysterical friend of ours. Host of the that's Messed up in SVU podcast. Put your hands together for Lisa Dragons.

[C]

Hello. Hello. Welcome. I mean, you've been here. Welcome to me.

[B]

Welcome.

[A]

I'm gonna start entering rooms and telling people in there, welcome. Welcome to life. I got here.

[C]

I got here.

[B]

We should be saying welcome to you.

[A]

Yeah, welcome you. Thank you for being here.

[C]

Thrilled to be here so much.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Svu. How many episodes of SVU have you, like, seen? Have you seen all?

[C]

I've seen every single one. Obviously, I am a professional, but I've seen the older ones more often and some favorites, and then the newer ones I've only maybe seen once or twice, but it's. They've. I've only. I've had less time with them, less marathons.

[A]

Who is your favorite? Like, pop up. Guest. Guest star. Where you're like, oh, okay. You know what I mean?

[C]

Because there's so many good in my life.

[B]

She starts a power.

[A]

Oh, my God. I didn't realize you set that up.

[C]

I'm excited. You guys are silent and you hate us. Like, what's up? I.

[A]

It doesn't matter.

[B]

They're used to listening to the podcast while they, like, do dishes. They don't know what to do. Irl.

[C]

I'm a little more desperate.

[A]

Thank you. Poor.

[C]

And.

[B]

Shout out Harris, one of our producers who does way more work for us than she's supposed to, but we know her well, so she kind of has to know.

[A]

I mean, one of the weird things about a live podcast is, like, most of these people are used to listening to our voice while they're driving.

[B]

Yeah. There are four people pretending to drive over there.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, but now my desperation is in front of you, so you have to, like, stop looking at me. Like this, you know, I have nothing to prove to you. Honestly.

[B]

Making eye contact with each individual audience member.

[C]

Well, some of you got here late, and you're. You are in the darkness. Okay. I would say we've got a lot on our. We've had a lot of guests. We talked to the actors from the episode. So I'm going to say the two that, like, I really want, that I'm three that I'm gunning for. And they're like. But I don't know if they're overall my favorite performances. But that's just, like, asking a lot of me. Okay. I would say I'm ready for Ludacris. He has a two episode arc.

[A]

Luda.

[C]

Luda is a lot of Tej heads in the house.

[A]

Do they ever get to the bottom why his hands are so large?

[C]

Dude, he fucks over all of svu. And one of the most vicious killers, like, truly. It's so awesome.

[A]

Really.

[C]

And then I would say Cynthia Nixon from Sex and the City.

[A]

Right.

[C]

I know more than any New York.

[A]

Politics for those, I prefer her from the Gilded Age.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

One of the first bits I ever saw Adam do was an impression of.

[C]

Wow, you guys are wild in camo. 80 bears.

[B]

Thank you so much. Hell, yeah. Don't you touch them.

[A]

Every. Every person that works at the bell house looks like they're in the backing band of MJ Linderman.

[B]

Wait, so Cynthia Nixon, who does she play in her episode?

[C]

Oh, my God, the best. So she. You know, it's split personalities, but is it so.

[A]

Well, primal fear.

[C]

She very. But so many. So it's so for real life, Cybil. She's level, very civil. So she's a spider woman at the Natural History Museum. That's her real life is a spider.

[A]

That's her job. She's like, in the butterfly room.

[C]

Her other personalities. Pigtailed teen slut.

[A]

I got to see this.

[C]

Then there's like, a Russian bitch who will slap you.

[B]

These are like all three of my favorite archetypes.

[A]

Yeah, they're also like. They're also like 90% of Robin Williams voices.

[C]

Actually. I have a fun story. You didn't ask, but you might like it. So when Kathy Griffin guest starred on svu, she called Robin for some advice. Robin Williams has been on, and Robin is like, oh, they love to have fun. Riff. Enjoy it. Like, you're gonna have the time of your life. And then she ruined every. Like, Christopher Maloney said, what are you doing? We don't do this.

[B]

They kind of let Robin Williams do.

[C]

Whatever Everyone on sets. Like, do you want to run lines? Like, she costs everyone days and time and she, like, was really upset.

[B]

Correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't Robin Williams play Charlie Todd? He was the improv everywhere guy, right? Didn't he, like, have people freezing in the.

[A]

Okay, no, that was Robin Williams.

[C]

No.

[B]

Is that a different episode?

[C]

It is the same episode. It's a part of it, but it's based on a bigger crime where this guy.

[B]

Cut me some slack. I pulled that. No, hold on.

[A]

What's a bigger crime than doing improv in public?

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[C]

This is actually perfect because I say things and they hate it, and then you say things they don't understand and then they love it. And so I think these are. Our parasocial show is gonna be amaz. I'm like, now I get the vibe. So I'm not, as you know, I'm like chilling now.

[B]

Speaking of chilling, Lisa, the one question we ask our guests on this podcast because, you know, we're important TV hosts. So the. And. And podcast hosts, we do hard hitting journalism on our show. And the question we always ask, what do you do to stay alive?

[C]

Okay, so is this like a one word and then we are like, no, you tell us.

[B]

You know what? We don't really know what it is.

[A]

You're the only person that's ever fired one back. Yeah, New York in the area.

[B]

Wait, who? You gave tambourines out to the crowd?

[A]

Yeah, I'm not gonna give this one out because what, you think I made a tambourines man?

[B]

Sorry, Lisa, you were saying you were texting your doctor ask questions about what you do to stay alive.

[C]

No, I made a note. I made a note. Thing of all the things that, like, keep me alive philosophically because.

[B]

Whoa.

[C]

I like this day to day. I do everything to dot. Like, I just, I. All of my choices are against human nature.

[A]

Like, your vices will kill you.

[C]

Yeah, I just. And I'll want a pair. I'll be like, that sounds good. And I'll be like, no. And then I won't do it. It's like, sick. Like, I won't take my meds. Like, a pair is tough.

[A]

A pair is something I don't. Juicy.

[C]

Like, why don't I juice them more?

[A]

They're juicy. But I think my relationship with pears, because I am allergic to them also.

[B]

Oh, God. And like, three Separate times on 101 places, Adam would be like, I'm getting, like, hives and my tongue is itchy. I'm like, like, did you look at the ingredients of the cocktail you ordered? He's like, no. I'm like, see if there's pear in it. And he's like, there was pear.

[A]

There's a pear martini.

[B]

And I'm like, you had three.

[A]

But, like.

[C]

But, like, are you EpiPen vibes?

[A]

No, no. Just, like, splotchy, disgusting, eczema vibes. But I. I never. My relationship with a pear is always when I eat one, I'm like, I should eat more pears. It's never like, you know what? I want a pear. You know? Like, it's always an after realization.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

They're rarely in the fruit bowl.

[A]

Rarely. Which is weird because they have such a tough skin. It would last. So do they. Maybe they get. Maybe they get.

[B]

Here we're just pitching ideas of what's up with pears.

[A]

Something funny to you, Libby?

[C]

That's my friend. That's my friend.

[A]

The Q A is over, guys.

[C]

All right, I'll get serious. I'll say, like, truly, the thing that keeps me alive day to day is I live above a coffee shop. And I like being able to run on down and get coffee. And then I like being able to go at night and get an Arnold Palmer and stunt with my new day outfit. I mean, night outfit.

[A]

And which. Which character from Girls are you living out?

[C]

You know which one I am. And it's really upsetting. Okay, so.

[A]

Whatever. Shoshana.

[C]

I wish, I wish, I wish.

[A]

You're the only person ever go, I wish.

[B]

That's like me saying, I wish I was Charlotte for the 40 year olds in the house. Wait, so living above a coffee shop keeps you alive? Yeah, because not in your apartment.

[C]

Well, so I was in LA for like, four years. Right.

[A]

Where'd you live in la?

[C]

I was in Highland park most of the time. West Hollywood for a little bit, but Highland Park. And it. Or not. Whatever. I was so isolated in here. I love. Like, even if I want to isolate, I'm always going to see these people, and it's a popular one. So there I just am immediately thrust. There's People walking their dogs. There's a vibe. And sometimes I don't have to even say a word. They have it ready. Sometimes I'm not paying. So every day it's a little game. No one girl follows me on the Internet. But we have more in common than that.

[B]

We actually have a stronger relationship than that. My barista and I, well, I'm tipping, like, yeah, no.

[C]

So much on every free coffee. But they'll charge me, like, the employee discount. They're just, like, nice. And I like that even though I'm paying.

[B]

You know, now, that's so funny, because you wouldn't say, like, drinking coffee at a coffee shop is necessarily a healthy habit. But engaging socially with other people and getting out of your house and getting sunlight and see people, that's community.

[A]

It is the ultimate balance. Again, it's like a financial person would say to you, well, you're spending a ton of money.

[C]

No, because I don't have a car. I don't own a house. I don't have children. I'm buying iced coffee every day. I don't care. What are you talking about? What are you talking about?

[B]

When I lived in Brooklyn, I was a iced coffee every day guy to the point where wintertime came. This was in, like, the 2010s. Only one bodega would keep a pitcher of iced coffee, and it was, like, just for me. And I'd go to the Colombian guys on the corner of Columbia street, and maybe they weren't Colombians. I don't know if that's how.

[A]

I don't know if that's how race works.

[B]

I call myself Colombian because I live on the street. Soy Colombiana.

[A]

Literally no one who lives by me is from Amsterdam.

[B]

So that's your healthy habit.

[C]

And it gets me out. So, like, so then it's now I'm out. I'm seeing the sun, and I'm getting a zest for the outside vitamins. I'm like, oh, wait, the weather's night. Oh, this is good.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

Or, you know, and it is funny.

[B]

To normally say, like, oh, I walk and get a coffee. But the fact that it's right downstairs, I need.

[A]

I will say. I will say, there is a bit of you right now that sounds like Drew Barrymore in the rain.

[C]

Oh, I do feel that way in New York. I feel really romantic about living, like.

[A]

A little bit of. He was like, if you've never gone outside, take the time to notice the way the sun hits between the bridge and dumbo. It's truly beautiful to live here.

[C]

It's how I feel every time I see the tip of a little building, I go, oh, look at her. I love it.

[A]

It's so gorgeous. I wonder if that building. Stained glass, water cast on my show if I could get the Chrysler Building to sit next to me.

[B]

I gotta say, I lived in New York in my 20s. I've been living in LA for about 14 years now. I was back here, living here for, like, a month, and I was fully in a nostalgia pocket. It was awesome. I was, like, walking down Bedford Avenue, smoking a joint, and like, this. This city is amazing. And I just felt it. And, like, I got, like, rejuvenated. Like, the city gave me energy. And then. Then it turned, like, 110 degrees and, like, reeked of piss. And I, like, tripped over a big pile of garbage bags. And I was like, yeah, go back to SoCal for a little bit.

[C]

One sweat goes off your butt, but then hits you on your low calf and it like, flies. And you get to experience that new flying sweet sweat. Not. I like that.

[A]

I'm always worried that it was a bird and I'm walking slow.

[B]

Yeah, I know that feeling so well. I can get it from, like, my hair down my back down my ass crack to my ankle.

[A]

Well, there are days where you beg for an air conditioning droplet where you're like, an air conditioning droplet would literally, like, ease this walk right now. You know, you no. That turned everybody, or does no one know what that is? Like, I'm shocked. Is central air, like, everywhere in Brooklyn?

[C]

I'm the walking past, like, a hotel lobby, like someone.

[B]

I'll stand in front of a gap until they pimp.

[C]

Now who's Drew Barrymore? You love that.

[A]

I love that. I love the positivity.

[C]

I like my spots. Yeah, I like having my little busy.

[A]

What's your. What's your. Like, medication Regimention.

[C]

So I've had a thyroid issue. I've been on pills since third grade. But I used to have goiters, so I had surgeries all the time, but we don't have any.

[A]

That must have been hard as a kid of surgeries.

[C]

I know. But I was also, like, a fresh immigrant. There's no paperwork, free hospital. I don't know what happened to me, but I just kept. I just like, oh, I only know.

[B]

What a goiter is from an episode of Home Improvement where one of the kids, they learn, is it a tumor or is it a goiter? Then Tim's like, what is he even a goiter?

[A]

He's got a goiter.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Now I'm doing Adam Sandler.

[A]

A tumor would be for a woman.

[B]

Neighbor saw the big lump on your son's face.

[A]

I thought that a goiter was just a masculine tumor.

[C]

No, it's.

[B]

I thought it was a non Jewish tumor. It's tumor if you get. If you're Jewish, and it's a goiter if you're Catholic.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But that must have been really, like, pelican vibes.

[C]

Yeah. I think I probably have a lot of trauma from it, for sure.

[A]

Like, because surgery is, like, really? Someone backstage was just telling us, like, no matter what the surgery is, they undersell you. The. The recovery.

[C]

Well, yeah, I would love to get tons of plastic surgery, but I'm not really into the recovery. Like, I don't want that in my life.

[A]

Recovery. I always think about the car.

[C]

Regularly lotion, like, all of the. All the. I can't. I can't.

[A]

Do you think that. That, like, when you feel like not.

[B]

Getting plastic surgery is one thing, but then you're like, regularly lotioning is also not lotioning.

[C]

But, like, my friend had the hair surgery and was like. Like an Epsom salt. You're sleeping like this. You have to do that. You. I'm like, I can't.

[A]

Do they go to, like, turkey? They go to, like, turkey?

[C]

No. He's rich. New York.

[B]

Well, I got Invisalign and I did that where I had the things, take them out, eat, brush my teeth, put them back in. My teeth got straight, and then I'm like, I'm done. Right? And they're like, yep. And now you just have to wear retainers every single night for the rest of your life. And I was like, well, there goes $2,400. My teeth just went right back to where they were. I'm like, I don't even brush my teeth before bed. I'm not putting fucking retainers.

[C]

Well, yeah, there's this, like. There's this, like. She was.

[B]

Everyone's laughing. Does everyone here really brush their teeth twice a day? You guys are fucked losers. Yeah, I wish I had that level of free time. I'm out here beating Assassin's Creed, the ninja one.

[A]

And let me guess, everyone here also sleeps in a bed seven nights a week.

[B]

Always two times. You never go, like, I'm just gonna go straight to bed. To me, that's like, a treat. If I don't have to. If I'm like, it. I'm not brushing my teeth. It's like, hell, yeah. Right to bed.

[A]

Just death creeps in through the gums.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

So you're saying I gotta start brushing my teeth, so. So that you're on a thyroid medication.

[C]

I'm on thyroid.

[A]

That's. That's perpetual.

[C]

And then, yeah, I take it every day. But then I go. I then. And I don't want to do take it.

[A]

Why is there side effects?

[C]

Well, because my dad. My dad. My family didn't believe in medicine stuff he says, like Holocaust trauma. And so. Oh, my God. Actually, someone DM me and was like, I'm your dad's new Holocaust social counselor at the Holocaust Foundation. I'm like, okay, Crazy dm.

[B]

Hey, just want to introduce.

[A]

Yeah, send me a picnic.

[C]

Cool.

[B]

I'll be live in Boston this weekend. Come check me out.

[C]

Oh, yeah. So, like, as a kid, I had. I collected owls, and I had this golden purse owl, and I'd put all my pills in there. My dad would change the prescriptions on the pads. Like, we were just kind of sick and not trustworthy of doctors, but also needed them.

[A]

It's so funny when you told me you're from Skokie, and now this makes even more sense.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

This makes total sense.

[C]

Yeah, the whole.

[A]

Yeah, well, that's all of us. Like, if you moved to Skokie, it was like people were like, oh, they got up.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. They're.

[A]

That's like a Jewish kind of like.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Tons of Holocaust survives the Holocaust museum now and then when I was a kid, the KKK march, but the Nazis marched back in the 40s.

[A]

Huge. There was a movie about it that they would show every year at school about the KKK marching through Skokie.

[B]

And I watched that in my school, too, but I think it was a different perspective.

[A]

Clear who won. Yeah, but that.

[B]

I think the soundtrack was a. Yeah.

[A]

Yours was more of, like, direction.

[B]

Yeah. Now we had some Jewish people on Long island, believe it or not.

[C]

Oh, wait. It's because I. I had some of those eaten edibles. Wait, I. So I forgot. But I do want to say this. Wait, did I forget again? Because I.

[A]

No, no, no.

[C]

You're so much work. Oh, there's like a chubby influencer. And then she lost a lot of weight, and it's because she had gastric bypass. And she was like. She didn't talk about it, but then she did. She has to take 20 vitamins a day. And it's like, if I could take 20 vitamins a day, like, why do you need the surgery? Like, I don't get it.

[B]

You know, that kind of upkeep stuff stresses Me out.

[C]

She's eating 120 grams of protein. It's like, honey, what was stopping you? Like, I don't get it. Like, if you can do these things, you've got it. You've got it, right?

[B]

Yeah. If you have that. That's like.

[C]

But to me, it's like, I'm going to do this sur. I'm not taking these vitamins. Then I'm like, getting a surgery to fail. It's one of the other.

[A]

It's one or the other.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But. Yeah, so I take the generic of Synthroid. So it's Levothyroxine.

[A]

Hell, yeah.

[B]

I fucking love it. Who's on Almost Certain?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All right. Who's on Statins?

[A]

Who's on Prozac?

[B]

Well, not. Not that one. I have enough erection issues.

[A]

God. It doesn't do that for me, but.

[B]

It goes up and down now, Lisa.

[C]

But I get in trouble with the doctors. Like, the tests will come back bad. And then they're like, but are you taking it every day, a half hour before meal time? And it's like, sure, but I want to have a 6am flight. Like. Like, there's just. And then. But that does affect you. It's like something. Science is real.

[A]

You're like, not even about that.

[C]

It's not even about that. Like, I just want an egg and cheese right now. Like, I have to wait a half hour. It's just like. It's tough, but I've been really good about it.

[B]

Wait, so you have to take your medicine a half hour before. It's like the reverse of swimming.

[C]

Yeah, Got it.

[A]

I'm horrible with my medicine. I take them all. I don't even.

[C]

You're being so judgmental to me for someone that suffers the same problems.

[A]

Judgmental? We're from the same camp.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Wait, Lisa, I want to ask you a question before we get to our next.

[C]

I also have another pill that I take. I'm on Wellbutrin.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. So, yeah, I've been. I've been. Been there.

[C]

Yeah. Been there. I started again recently, and it is, like, so good. I don't know why I stop. It's.

[A]

It is kind of a miracle. I think antidepressants are, like, when you hit the right one or it works. It's like a miracle.

[C]

Like, all of a sudden, I'm doing an extra errand and I'm like, what the fudge? Like, it just feels incredible.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I woke up early and I'm like, maybe you could just get up. Like, I don't it's just crazy.

[A]

It is. And then you're like, God, what was wrong with me those months? Like, you look back at a picture, like, God, I was really. I must have been really working out. Or like, your mind tells you like, oh, yeah, well, that was the year you were on Wellbutrin. You know, you were like, doing better.

[C]

So I'm pumped about that journey. And then just. I do have an iud. It's not a pill, but I want to talk about.

[B]

Just so the audience knows, I am wearing an iud.

[A]

That's more of an advertisement, I feel.

[B]

Like, just so everyone knows, I shoot if you want to direct.

[A]

I drive an amateur Formula one car and IUD is my biggest sponsor.

[C]

I don't. Yeah, you got to do it. The fascism's here. Get a fucking iud.

[B]

Hell yeah. And so on your way in, you pass the eating table. On the way out, we have an IUD table with stirrups pop up there. We're putting them in. Me and Adam will be out there putting them in, whoever needs them. We do asshole ones for our guys.

[A]

Too, but they're refurbished. It's like getting a new laptop from the Apple Store.

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[B]

Lisa, you are another person I've known years that engages with the plant cannabis. And do you have any habits you do to make? Like, I do a lot of, like, munchy prevention efforts in my house. Like, I make sure I have, like, a fun beverage that's low calorie and like a fun fruit snack or something that's like, I love that.

[C]

A fruit snacks here.

[B]

No, sorry. A snack of fruits.

[A]

This is a guy who. This is a guy who, a couple months ago, he was in New York and he took. He's like, we gotta go to this bodega in Brooklyn near where he said, they're the best pork chops.

[B]

This is the guys who had the iced coffee on the corner of Hicks and Corner.

[A]

You gotta come to. They have the best pork chops. So I was like, all right. Okay. So we go to a bodega. We're sitting on the. On a Greenpoint on, like, a thing, eating pork chops off the bone, and he casually turns to me, goes, this was my pre workout meal.

[B]

Okay, post workout, but for real, I would just be in line with, like, 12 guys who've been working all day and, like, earned their huge plate of rice and chuletas. And I would just be like, yeah, I just woke up. But fill me up with the same thing.

[A]

Roll it back again.

[B]

These guys, these guys with the hard hats and vests, I'll have the same thing. And I'm in Snoopy pajamas.

[C]

I smoke weed before SoulCycle.

[A]

And yes, I love that.

[C]

I. So I'm in recently everything I. Clothes.

[A]

I love being high with an exercise.

[C]

Yeah. Because then afterwards you get out there and you're so hot. And then, yeah, I get like, grocery store sushi.

[A]

Yeah. Because.

[C]

It'S Wegmans. It's Wegmans.

[A]

Yeah. A grocery store in New York is not your path, Mark. Not your seat town downtown.

[B]

I'm a huge fan of grocery store sushi. I eat it way too much.

[A]

I like gross. Especially now in, like, the upscale, like a Wegmans bowl. Rock me.

[B]

I make a pokeball at my. My local Gelson's.

[C]

Wait, I'm by the. Oh, because you're. Did you guys get a Wegmans up there?

[A]

We have a Wegman. There's a Wegmans. A new one on the Upper east side.

[C]

Oh, there.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, but we're not. But that's usually where My. That's where my daughter is volleyball. So there will be nights where, like, we'll drop her at volleyball and I'll be like, I'll just wait in the car and I will spend like 400 at Wegmans.

[B]

I'm a big. If I. If I know I'm gonna exercise once I get high, I have to put on all the gear and then get high. Because if I put one barrier in.

[A]

The way, that is a huge key. Because there are times I got. I get high before working out too. And I feel like there are oftentimes where I will get high, like in my pajamas and that will pull me back.

[C]

Oh, I do it on the walk.

[A]

That's smart. Yeah. You're a hike smoker.

[C]

I wouldn't go that far, but I walk to my cycling class.

[B]

Yeah, I smoke on hikes, but I have to wait till after the huge uphill so I can like a. Earn it and be. Not collapse.

[A]

But I do think that cannabis and exercise. We're going to talk to.

[B]

We're going to talk to a nutrition.

[A]

Nutritionist about professional. But I do think. I mean, that's one of the things that I would really like to know more about because I. I do feel like there. There must be some healthy correlation between it. That can benefit because anything that. That can, like, distract you from a little bit from the pain of exercise, you know, and like. And then you're like, wow, I did that. I didn't realize, you know, I'm truly smiling.

[C]

Okay. And this is sick. But, like, you can tell me. Okay. So I go to. I go to a Taylor Swift class every Saturday.

[A]

A soul cycle.

[C]

Yeah. And she's doing. I'm learning to sing. Okay. So you.

[B]

I have a Taylor Swift meetup. We all get around and sing together.

[C]

Can you imagine if that would. That would be so cool. But I probably would have signed an NDA. No. To the Taylor class. And this. And she's doing a thing now. It's like your version. And we all make requests Thursday and Friday. And then she puts them together into an incredible playlist.

[A]

Cool.

[C]

This last Saturday, she played all three of my requests. That has to mean something, and I refuse to believe it's not.

[B]

I say you propose.

[A]

Yeah, she definitely does. She know you're famous.

[C]

I thought we follow each other. You know what's crazy? But the thing is, like, Lord's been in her class. Like, SoulCycle's different. She's also the most beautiful woman you've ever seen.

[A]

The teacher.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Really.

[B]

And I'll check Out this Taylor Swift class at some point.

[A]

And where. Yeah, where. Which one is this? Which soul cycle is this?

[C]

I'll tell you after. I can't keep talking about it.

[B]

It's like, yeah, we can't have any of these. Psych.

[C]

I just only talk about six things over and over. I feel like Jude Law, I heart Huckabees. I'm like a fudgeing loser.

[B]

Something that we're something.

[A]

So you're more just like someone that references I heart hockey.

[B]

Something that's coming up. All three of us are talking about. We're sort of treat oriented people where, like, I have to wrap exercise in a joint. Like, it's like, that's the baloney around. My dog's medicine is, oh, I'll exercise, but I'll get to some. You guys talk about we're smoking weed before exercise. What about after? That's when you're allowed to do it.

[A]

I wonder. Let's pull.

[B]

Let's.

[A]

Before we bring out our next guest, let's pull the audience real quick. Just because it would make me feel better. How many people in here in their exercise regimen like to imbibe a little. That's a lot more than I thought.

[B]

That's a lot more people. Allison Lightby. Probably clapping the loudest.

[C]

She. She. She wrote at Cornell. Rowing.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So she's an athlete.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we're swim buddies. And she's impressed.

[C]

Ivy League Roger.

[A]

She wrote at Cornell. So she's an athlete and a second tier Ivy League student.

[B]

Well, and she's got good mental health because she didn't kill herself and she.

[A]

Didn'T jump off that bridge, which is pretty amazing. And she's not in the hotel management. I know a little.

[B]

I know a little. I got rejected from there. I got rejected.

[A]

Even with a summer.

[B]

I hear it's gorgeous.

[C]

Well, and then you're gonna. You're gonna hate this. But also when I leave. So I'm like, I do. When I'm walking to and from class, I'm like, I'm in New York.

[A]

I love it. I think, no, no, this is great.

[C]

I'm like, oh, is there a little fest going? Oh, what's this happen? Oh, and like, everyone's eating lunch outside together. It's like, I can't.

[B]

Oh, man. Let's. Let's get excited for our next guest. The actual episode expert on this episode. Put your hands together for nutritionist Carolyn Brown.

[C]

Were you off the shoulder top in there? Were you wearing a hood sweatshirt?

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

This is a real surprise.

[A]

It's A change. It's a change.

[F]

It's a little switcher.

[C]

I like.

[A]

It's a switcheroo. I like it.

[B]

Yeah. Got to be shoulder reveal, get hyped.

[A]

Yeah. And there's a couple guys. I don't know where they are, but I would have pass it down.

[B]

Oh, here's.

[A]

Oh, thanks. You're giving a pressed juice. Thank you, thank you.

[B]

If you're gonna throw it, it may explode on the ground.

[C]

I'm like, let me have a vegetable.

[A]

Take the next one. Thank you. I'll just give it right to her. Yeah. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[C]

I want to get this in.

[A]

What flavor is that?

[B]

Don't. Lisa, don't allow this.

[C]

It has a lot of things I'm not into, but yeah. Let me see the calorie count. I'm gonna chug it.

[A]

Let me see the calorie count.

[F]

This one's for you.

[C]

It's. Honestly, it's 140. Not bad.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Are you sure about that one?

[B]

Carolyn, thank you so much for bringing us green juice. I'm gonna mix it with my Miller highlighters.

[F]

Balance. Balance.

[A]

I was sitting backstage with my wife before, and I was like, I'm hungry. I might get a pizza. And I went to Caroline, you want a pizza? And she's like. And I was like, what. What kind of pizza you like? And my wife. My wife whispered to me, wrong.

[C]

Isn't. I just do this.

[F]

I do love pizza, but also have a sweet green.

[A]

You weren't going to have a pizza?

[F]

Not tonight. Not tonight, no.

[C]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Oh, God.

[F]

It'S so nice.

[A]

Yeah, that's right.

[C]

You gotta run with it. Wait, so you don't drink or eat? Like, you don't drink ever? What's your cocktail life like?

[F]

A margarita, of course. But I really believe in balance.

[B]

And, yeah.

[C]

If you're balanced, like, one drink a day, or, like, wait till Saturday and have four. What's your vibe more like, what kind.

[B]

Of alcoholic are you every once in.

[C]

A while or you don't think about it. Just. You just, like, once in a while, you're like, maybe.

[F]

Yeah, I would say that's more.

[A]

That's more.

[C]

My speed is like that clap if you're like that.

[F]

I do this for a living.

[C]

Right.

[F]

So I was just going to say.

[A]

That it does sound. It's so aspirational. Sounds amazing, like, to walk into a social environment and not immediately need lubrication.

[B]

Like, I'm doing constant deals with myself about drinking. It's, like, embarrassing. I'm like, we didn't Drink Monday and Tuesday. So Wednesday night you can have 12 beers at poker.

[A]

Yeah. I'm always like, no joke. Being like, when is the last day I didn't drink?

[B]

Right.

[A]

Like that is always.

[F]

How many days do you go?

[A]

I have no clue.

[F]

You have no idea when the last.

[A]

Not even close to knowing.

[C]

But summer is different.

[A]

Yeah, it's summer. It's summer. And, and, and when it. When it's summer. When it's summer in New York, there's no rule.

[B]

This is his Drew Barrymore impression in case you missed the first half of the show. Same goes for you drunk assholes, in case you forget who that is.

[A]

Yeah. Don't cancel me.

[B]

Gestured to my own family. Not everyone.

[A]

Yeah. Joanne, that's Drew Barrymore.

[B]

Joanne, that's Drew Barrymore from Fever Pitch.

[A]

I know the movie. You'll remember.

[B]

Not Jonathan. I love Drew Barrymore.

[A]

Jimmy Fallon movie.

[C]

That's Fever Pitch.

[A]

That's what I said.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Did you say Pitch Perfect? Perfect.

[A]

I said Fever Pitch.

[C]

I truly heard Pitch Perfect. And the woman in the mask.

[A]

The woman in the mask is.

[C]

No, I'm glad. I just.

[B]

There is a woman for the listeners. There is a woman here in a luchador mask. And we don't know if she wants to wrestle or if she's undercover or something.

[A]

No. It's funny. Danielle told me she was going to do a bit tonight. I didn't think it would be the luchador mask.

[B]

It's not your birthday?

[A]

No. Usually I only get that two days a year, so.

[B]

So, Carolyn, can you tell us a little bit about your focus in. Is it integrative nutrition? Is that what it's called, integrative wellness?

[F]

It is.

[B]

Okay. I did all the stuff I needed to remember it.

[F]

Did your job.

[A]

Integrated wellness. It's exactly what we were talking about before, right? It's like.

[B]

It's exactly what we were talking about.

[A]

Right? It's like integrating. It's like we're integrated wellness. This. It's like doing. Doing like push ups drop. Right.

[F]

Like combining things. Well, a big part of it really is like merging the parts of life that are important to you too. So I do believe, like, fun is really important. Joy is really important. As important as nutrition, community, laughter, all of these things are an essential part.

[B]

You're welcome. Now you're wondering why we host the Health and Wellness podcast. We bring community. We bring one laugh.

[A]

I've always said we're first respond. We are first responders.

[B]

Yes. I. I've been getting run off 9, 11 for years.

[A]

Hell, yeah. Because I was the first one to make a joke about it.

[B]

When I say I'm bridging tunnel, I mean I got stuck in that traffic on September 11th. Who is this show for besides Adam and I?

[A]

Bridging thumb. Oh man.

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[C]

Can I ask a question or Please. I don't want to. Please. What got you into this? What?

[F]

Into nutrition? Yeah, I have always loved food and and at one point I realized how you eat affects how you feel. Have you guys had that moment yet?

[A]

I haven't ever.

[B]

I've had it for about two hours every morning. My entire life have not adjusted my behavior at all.

[F]

Yeah, then the I was fucking crying.

[B]

On the toilet watching True Detective season one on an iPad set up on the trash can. I made it through an episode. 52 minutes I was dropping out of my ass like Deadliest Catch. Yeah, it's like a net, a boot and a shark head came Out.

[C]

We do need to do a gut.

[A]

I recently got a UTI from.

[B]

You gotta wipe front to back, dude.

[F]

Okay.

[B]

I know you're southpaw.

[A]

I'm a lefty.

[F]

I would love to do a gut tied guess on each of you guys.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[F]

What's going on? From the inside out. Microbiome.

[A]

I really. But I don't want.

[B]

I'll leave my underwear here for a stool sample. I've already got. If you need stool or blood, I got both in my drawers right now. I can add anything else you need.

[C]

Is there like a Drano for your gut?

[F]

A Drano?

[A]

That's a great question.

[C]

Drano for your guy.

[A]

All these ads that you see where it's like, you know, like, bloat, go away or whatever.

[F]

Like, don't buy those from Instagram. That would be my first rule. We do a lot of gut testing, we do a lot of microbiome testing, and we can come up with super customized protocols to help you heal once and for all. But I would say most of the time, the Instagram ads are not worth it.

[B]

You just hit the one person in a wheelchair in the face.

[A]

Well, they, of all people should be able to roll out of the way.

[B]

Their hands work faster.

[A]

They're already sitting.

[B]

Look at.

[F]

You have to get up that green juice, though.

[B]

Yeah, I'm kind of getting into this now. I. If you want to talk balance, I think this is the man.

[C]

Do you eat Yasso bars, Dude?

[B]

Lisa, I was literally gonna bring these up. That's my weed. Go to snack in my freezer. I have mango. I have cookies and cream and cookie dough.

[A]

Are those the ice cream sandwiches that are like. Like these?

[C]

No, they're Popsicle. They're like. But they're yogurt. Greek yogurt.

[F]

Greek yogurt. I like aso.

[A]

I like all those diet food desserts to feel somewhat like air. Spaceship foodie, you know?

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

A lot of times the ingredients, the. The gels and gums and things don't hit for everybody. I'm a fan of, like, a little bit of the real deal most of the time. But for some people who want to snack every night on something, they can be a nice little. A nice little treat for you.

[B]

You're looking at me when you talk about snacking every night.

[A]

So integrated. So when. When we say the words like, integrated wellness, like, what led you to. To that? We. Is it the type of deal. What's in that jar?

[F]

That's a. That's a goodie coming your way. If you ask A nice quest.

[B]

Oh wait, we got rewards. They're treats. Oh, Eaton. Who is. Yes. Who's you know. Oh, they gave us, on the way in, they gave you cards like little pieces of paper that gets you a discount at the local dispensary. On eat. Eating gummies. And highly recommend eating some eatens. Yeah. Because they are. If we should take a minute to talk about this. And Carolyn chime in when I it all up.

[C]

But I'm gonna pee real quick while you do this.

[B]

You should. Yeah. Thank you. We just hear she's like, she looked at her phone, saw her Uber was here and was like, I gotta pee. So eating gummies, eating botanicals. We where they make gummies that have also healthy supplements in them like turmeric, ginger, thc, CBD one. And Adam and I are collaborating with them to make our own Staying alive gummy which will be available in dispensaries in the near future. But Carolyn, you do a lot of work with Eaton as well.

[F]

Yeah, yeah. So Eaton brings the cannabis expertise to the table and then I go ahead and help formulate all of the other ingredients that are in it. So I decide, you know, all of the different medicinal mushrooms adaptogens we have of vitamins, minerals, all sorts of neurotropics. Yeah, I mean, exactly.

[A]

Definitely becoming a. Like I've noticed a couple of influencers that I follow who are like normal, like, you know, like basic. Basic influencers. You know what I mean? Like, this is what it's like to be. This is a. An afternoon for a dad in his 40s. You know what I mean? Or whatever. They all will be like. And I went on a run, I had a little gummy that, you know, it's like, like there's definitely. The overlap is definitely coming.

[F]

Yeah. Which is really exciting. The, the combination of the two, it kind of turns it into rocket fuel to. We do micro doses in these as well. So they're really small dose thc, we have CBD and then all sorts of adaptogenic mushrooms which really are like the next phase.

[C]

And you gave us mushrooms too.

[F]

You're about to try some medicinal mushrooms. Not psychedelic, but I'm all right.

[B]

But. But there's a sticker on these that say non infused. So these are just medicinal gummies.

[F]

Yeah, they're just tasty deliciousness.

[B]

Leave those over here. This is.

[A]

Yeah, I'll give these to my kids.

[B]

Don't worry. It's Delta 8 Hun. Giving your kids cray tom and saying at least it's not weed. This is, this is the Watermelon flavor gummy. Which is the gal pal.

[F]

I know. I thought after chatting about IUDs, you guys might. Might want that one. But pass that one down to Lisa. I think that.

[C]

Throw this one on the ground. Adam.

[B]

Yeah. What is. Yeah, here, take a look at this.

[A]

What is. So what is Galpal? What is that? What is this?

[F]

Galpal specifically is for pms, for perimenopause. And it helps women's all sorts of symptoms. So we also include lion's mane in that B6. There's. There's amazing medicinal mushrooms that help with inflammation, immune system, brain power. And you can eat these?

[B]

You don't have to. They're not. You don't have to boof them.

[F]

I.

[B]

I mean, they're gal pal gummy. Like, you know.

[A]

Yeah, g. You don't have to put them in your.

[B]

I need them to be way smaller.

[C]

You're not a real gal pal unless you boof together. That's what I always say.

[B]

Yeah. When I said stop by me and Adam, I mean I need you to blow mushrooms in my. From a straw.

[C]

You know what I'm into right now. But I've only done three times because I know I'd get addicted. Huh? Whippets. It's so good, dog.

[B]

You're talking. This guy's a whippet influencer.

[A]

I knew we had a lot in common.

[C]

I love it so much.

[A]

I.

[B]

Guys do not do them. Oh, wait.

[C]

Can I have a vodka soda too, Tito? Okay, thanks, Ann.

[A]

And. And run out, grab a cart and a whip it. Make sure the cracker is aluminum.

[C]

You can actually post for the environment.

[B]

And going to get him from you.

[A]

Postmate whippets.

[C]

Yeah, you just need the metal thing. But those little canisters, you could postmate it.

[A]

I once was so desperate for whippets that I bought them at a Williams Sonoma.

[C]

Wait, they had them with the stuff.

[B]

Do you remember this?

[C]

Was it expensive?

[A]

It was like 150 for one cart. And the guy was like. The game was like. Came with like a chef's kit thing. And the guy was like, are you baking something? And I was like, yeah, I know.

[B]

This is a health and wellness podcast. Yes. But when we.

[C]

She loves whippets, we're not eating anything. You know what I mean?

[B]

Right? Integrative. Just get your brain vibrating and wiping out core childhood memories.

[F]

You definitely need lion continue to survive.

[A]

I've done so many whippets that I believe I was born 2014.

[B]

On the travel show, a show about partying. They had to edit out how Many whippings we were doing in the pilot. They're like, we can. We're in Denver, Colorado, and they're showing up us smoking weed and drinking. But they have to chop around. We're just randomly in a Winnebago ripping whip. It's the whole. A whip, a bagel. It was.

[A]

I love whippets, man.

[B]

I like. I like to do drugs that make you feel like you need to hold on to the earth to not follow me too.

[A]

And then it goes away.

[C]

But why can't you just sit?

[B]

I know when you sit, though, I still feel like I got a wall.

[A]

The great things about whip. The great thing about. The great thing about whipping. The great thing about whip is that you can drive on them.

[B]

The great thing about whippets is your kids. Teachers can't smell it on their breath.

[A]

You can bring it on a plane. Honestly, my best flights are with two canisters or whippets. People think, oh, I wish that was not. Not true.

[B]

Where do you stand on.

[A]

But is integrated. So in your mind, where do you see integrated integrative medicine going? Do you think?

[B]

Did you just burp in the middle of that question?

[A]

I didn't feel like I did, but I love this.

[F]

Well, it's going towards really personalized wellness. So figuring out which supplements, which food works best for every single.

[A]

Really, so.

[B]

Because not everything works for everybody.

[F]

Absolutely. No.

[A]

And so, like, really, really dialing down, like, what is the, like, optimal?

[F]

Yeah, I think a lot of time I don't want. I don't want people to just feel good. Like, I really don't believe everything in moderation. Actually. I don't like that saying at all. Because I don't want you to feel.

[B]

Again, just, you know, lie me clap.

[A]

You are a liability at this show.

[B]

A liability.

[A]

You're a Lia Liability.

[C]

She's the snack queen of Brooklyn.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[F]

Snack queen.

[C]

She the. The plates she makes. Makes.

[A]

I've seen.

[B]

I've seen charcuterie come out of that house that will blow your cucumbers.

[C]

Amount of little thingy she makes a.

[B]

Spring or a summer salad that will rock your.

[A]

And she also knows every place in every area that's good. Like, I've been with Livey in, like, the worst areas. And she's like, you know, there's actually a dumpling spot that's like. You're like, really?

[B]

You're like, in a foxhole.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Why do you hate that popular saying, everything in moderation?

[F]

Because I don't want people to feel moderately good. Like, I really believe you can optimize and get to the point of feeling fantastic and living your life at. At that level.

[C]

What if you're addicted to fast food that isn't real?

[B]

What's that one?

[C]

Like, I understand feeling good, but what if you just want, like, an egg McMuffin, no meat with a hash brown in it. Right. So, like, how do you.

[B]

This is a hypothetical.

[C]

Yeah. But it doesn't give me anything good, and I only feel good in the moment. How do I leave that and go to.

[F]

Okay, you can definitely have it every once in a while. I would also say, if you're down to try making that yourself or doing upgraded versions of it. Like, we can always do better versions. Like, eggs are amazing for you. Potatoes are great for you. So it's kind of. It's finding and fine tuning some of the ingredients and how you're making it, how you're eating it. Are you eating it like. Like, hungover? That's different from, you know, like, making a beautiful breakfast and enjoying with friends. So I think that part of it.

[C]

Hungover.

[F]

No.

[B]

I've only had Egg McMuffins at Penn Station.

[F]

Brutal.

[B]

Told you. Bridge and tunnel.

[A]

I honestly only think I've eaten egg McMuffins that I.

[B]

Calories from the ground don't count.

[A]

Yeah, but. So. But. But you know what's really nice about that. That view, too. Because I think. I think a lot of people I know from my point of view, anytime someone has been, like, trying to help me, there's this thing of, like, we're gonna cut out every. Like, everything you're doing is wrong. And that's really hard for people who are trying to turn their life.

[C]

Those are just with eating disorders that are trying to create more of themselves, and then you fail.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes, I agree. I will say, like, that happened to me.

[C]

I was like, so all in. And then it was like, wait, can't eat anything. Do this, like, ground turkey. I get, like, every day. I can't. What? Yeah, A ground turkey and a string bean. I. I don't want to live. I would want.

[B]

I would say I don't want. ED goes across the gender lines too. Like, not erectile dysfunction, but eating disorders.

[A]

I don't know if anyone else would call eating disorder zd.

[B]

I guess I just watch a lot of Tik Toks where they don't want to say disordered eating. It goes across. I know a lot of dudes who are like, you know, clean, eating a lot of protein, and it all starts to wreak of the same kind of manorexic like, you know.

[A]

Well, yeah, I mean there is part. Part of it is, is I think the reason a lot of people can't all do that is because they. They don't want to regiment every single thing to the same. Like eat a lot of that is also. Also eat the same time every day. Eat the same.

[B]

It's so unrealistic for people with real lives to do half the that's being. It's like, you know, like we always have someone on our podcast and they'll give us like, you should be doing this and this and this. It's like, well, sometimes my job lets me out at 11pm at night. And then you'll see the person go like, well, I guess you're gonna die young then. What the. There's got to be an option for me. Can I sleep two extra hours now? You're not getting nine hours of sleep.

[A]

It's probably over for you soon.

[F]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

We always have one gun with one bullet in it on a table when we're recording. Cuz me and Adam are just one. We're going to put our heads together and do it.

[A]

I'm going to do it through mine into your.

[B]

Maybe you're going to be left.

[A]

No, you're going to be left like But a Fuko.

[B]

Rip. Well Mary Jo, I really.

[A]

All my references are old. I'm really having a hard.

[B]

But there's about eight Long Islanders who of course know who the Butafu go are you. Oh, the guy with the Mets at the front row.

[A]

I was at City Field the other day. So good. It's the best. Isn't it crazy how much better Citi Field is in Yankee Stadium?

[B]

Okay, okay. I'm a Yankee fan and I miss old Yankee Stadium.

[A]

You're right. Oh, the new field.

[B]

Rich.

[A]

New Yankee Stadium. Feels like you're at a JetBlue terminal.

[B]

Yeah, it's like a Joe DiMaggio funeral museum. What the fuck am I talking about?

[A]

Anyway, what are we doing?

[C]

What. What. What would you get at a baseball game?

[F]

Actually, I go through for clients. I always go through stadiums some. Sometimes it's worth it. Just like have the real deal go have fun. But also, can you grab a green juice on your way there? Can you. What did you eat the whole rest of the day? So I love what you were implying, which was like how can we be additive about our diets versus cutting entire food groups out? Like that never works long term. It doesn't even work for most of us for a week, myself included. So whether it's like, drinks, things like that. Like, how do we decide to intentionally include some of the fun things in our lives? So at a game, I might get, like, a giant pretzel or, you know, even a hot dog or something like this if there's, you know, or I might eat ahead if it was, like, not worth it to me. That food generally doesn't make me feel great. So, like, that's probably not. Not gonna be the thing that I'm gonna choose. I do love pizza, though.

[B]

Wait, you avoid things that don't make you feel? Is that, like, a real possibility?

[F]

It's the ultimate biohack.

[B]

Well, it's crazy to hear this and be like, I haven't even considered. Not like, that was me the other morning. I was, like, dying, and I had a flight that day, and I'm just like, you know, blood on the toilet paper morning. And I'm like, I could. I knew this was happening. I could have done anything to prevent this, and I didn't do it.

[A]

You find yourself, like, making the better choices a lot of times where you'd be like, you know, you have to fly sometimes during, like, a lot.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

So. So do you find yourself holding out and. And being like, I'll eat when I get there, or do you find yourself, like, making choices to accommodate your lifestyle?

[B]

Are you a black bag full of almonds?

[C]

Where your parents healthy?

[F]

My parents are healthy. Yeah. But. But I think this form the Holocaust.

[C]

I got that.

[B]

Turned out not from the Holocaust. Where are your parents from? You know, I don't like to say they're from a small town called the Holocaust.

[A]

When you come in our house, please put your shoes in that pile. Oh, you all got that one.

[B]

We're. We're shoes off household. You do not get them back.

[A]

Yeah, you can go through the pile.

[B]

So you were saying something important about the premise of the podcast, weren't you, Carol?

[A]

But travel, like, I guess.

[C]

I guess the thing is, is it hard for you or it's like kind of like an easy thing? Yeah.

[F]

Like, it becomes easy over time. I think making the next right decision, it does. It's a muscle. I know. It's. It's like forming new neural pathways. And I know it's not easy. I've been there too. I lived that for a long time. But I think decision by decision and starting to, like, you know, waking up with energy, not going to sleep at 6:00am you know, like, doing a lot of these habits are. They compound on each other.

[A]

Right?

[B]

I do.

[F]

And we're looking for, like, 1% by 1%. That's what all of those books on habits are about. It's not about, like a full reinvention. That is not gonna work. Fun.

[B]

Start by just brushing your teeth at night.

[F]

It might help. Yeah.

[B]

It really is so brutal that when you actually eat healthy skin.

[C]

Mechanical one.

[B]

I do.

[C]

That's good.

[B]

Yeah. I have a double sided vibrating one.

[A]

She's talking about your toothbrush.

[B]

Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a Sibian toothbrush. I sit on one and lean over it. Nice.

[A]

No, wait a. No, wait. A girl. Wait, well, yeah, there's a wireless here. A girl on a girl on your.

[C]

A girl I went to high school with wrote a Sibian on Howard Stern and took her shirt off.

[B]

What?

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Holy. I know her in an uncomfortable way.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

I didn't think he been doing that that long.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Because I used to watch it on CBS when I like, after snl. Like, that's what I would sneak and watch.

[A]

And you.

[C]

Before real sex would start.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would love to see.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

One pervert in the back, weirdly enough, an overweight guy in clown makeup farting on a balloon.

[C]

It was always like people making glass dildos. And I'm like, what?

[A]

The real sex is always like people covered in mud.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So my favorite, like, welcome back to Staying Alive.

[C]

Take.

[B]

Ask your parents what real sex is. Don't actually go, mom, what's real sex?

[A]

No, I can explain.

[B]

When he finally gets you off, you.

[A]

Know, I can explain real sex, the HBO show, to young people. You remember Hawk Tua? You remember in the beginning of Hawk Tua when the person was like, what do you do? And she's like, oh, you got to spit on that thing. Imagine a bunch of people answering that question.

[B]

Imagine the drunkest collection of people on a street in Philadelphia saying like, she likes you in the ass. Shut up.

[A]

You do.

[B]

And then it would cut to like, a guy who makes a woman orgasm by going like this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now is that real? Carol, why don't you integrate of this wellness?

[C]

Do you. You know, you said it takes you time to like, learn all these things. Do you feel the youth are like, abandoning fun and joy and going too deep into skin care and health?

[F]

That's interesting. That's not a. Yeah, that's a great question. I think on some level there is. There's definitely that Orthorexia is real obsession with healthy eating, healthy living.

[A]

There's just an article in the. In New York magazine about kids. I didn't really read it, but I Saw the COVID in my. In my best appeal, but I. What. What is that about? I didn't read it. Tell me what that's about.

[F]

About kids.

[B]

Hey, can you read?

[A]

Can you read?

[B]

You might leave this the host of Staying Alive. So both of you. Yeah, it's a much better job.

[A]

But do you think that. But. But the idea. What was it called? I'm sorry. ARED is Arfed part of that? Like, where it's bleeding down? That.

[F]

I don't actually even know what that is.

[C]

It's kids. It's like fear of food. It's more of an. Well, I guess. I don't know what. They don't say what anxiety stuff, but it's anxiety around fear of food and textures and things that aren't familiar.

[F]

Yeah, that's really interesting. I mean, I think a lot of people actually grew up doing more of that than we would even realize. But I do think that there's, like, a whole other level with the Internet being in some ways amazing, and in some ways, kids getting access to so much information so young especially. There's, like.

[C]

I found out about anorexia with no Internet.

[F]

So. Yeah, like, and Tumblr back in the day, that was like. It was like our generation.

[C]

I was gonna try to puke and go, why can't I puke nobody?

[A]

People are looking at you aghast. But it is. It is interesting because, like, these. These. It's 11pm These problems have always existed, right? Like anorexia problem.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

Not in medieval times or.

[A]

Yeah, well, no, it was because, like, you could only eat a bubonic rat.

[B]

Yeah. No one, like, lived long enough to have, like, repercussions. You know what I mean? It's like, did you eat your vegetables this morning? It's like, yeah, but I got kicked in the head by a horse and.

[A]

I'm dying, you know, and, like, all the soul cycle.

[C]

I'll see, like, older women that, like you. They're not. It's like, there's an issue.

[F]

Well, that a lot of times is mental health issues, though that's not necessarily nutrition. That oftentimes is, like, what's underneath it. And so that's where we get therapists involved. And that's a whole other.

[A]

So much of. Of food and physical activity is tied to mental health.

[F]

Of course.

[A]

Do you do a lot of work like that with your clients? You find most of your work is done outside the gym?

[F]

Yeah. Yes, absolutely. I do make. I do make some. Some of those recommendations.

[A]

We're about 90 minutes New York fans in the area.

[B]

90 minutes into the show, we ask the first real question of our real guest and then don't let her answer.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Can. Can you unpack this a little bit? Did I did Me growing up in an Italian American household where you were cheered on and rewarded for how much you ate, and grown ups around you would be like, he's got such a great appetite. Did that set me up for failure somehow?

[F]

I think, because as you can see.

[B]

I'm chugging while people cheer, and I'm loving it.

[A]

And from this side, our families are from the Holocaust, so we. We always thought we'd have to run.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In the middle of the meal. So you had to clean the plate really quick.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

There.

[C]

It's all really croutons out of the bottle. As a kid, that's what I would do.

[A]

Hell, yeah. A soup crouton.

[C]

They're the little Mondos.

[A]

They're like tiny little yellow ones.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Oh, my God. I eat that during a movie.

[C]

They're only 35 calories for a tablespoon. But as a child, I would drink them out of the bottle. Yeah. Well, I think a lot of the.

[F]

I think so many of our child.

[C]

Secrets, none of you deserve it, but I drink out of these.

[A]

Like, I don't want to judge our fans, but, like, I am shocked at the amount of judgment coming from.

[C]

Did you guys not grow up with a little yellow?

[A]

It's like. And looking around. I hate to break it to the audience. Ain't none of that fit.

[B]

Is it a mental health thing? Because we'll give it to you before you leave.

[A]

I don't know what you're all aghast about, but none of you doing too great.

[C]

No, they're looking good, you guys.

[B]

And I know what you're thinking. I'm only 29. I got tons of time to turn my life around. I was 29 once. I didn't do with my life.

[C]

Yeah, you kind of coast as long as you can, and then all of a sudden things start hurting and you go, no more coasting.

[B]

My daughter, straight up, said to me, just looking at your tests here, the most likely cause of your death will be heart attack.

[A]

How's that?

[B]

And I was like, I thought it would be street fight. And he's like.

[C]

I was like.

[B]

I was hoping I'd go out swinging.

[A]

What? And on the positive end, you can finally go tell that witch that she was wrong.

[B]

Do you know what I mean? Well, we didn't ask Carolyn the one question we're supposed to.

[C]

Well, I will tell you Actually, so she's putting the. Because we're out of control. So I'll just tell me if I'm wrong. So with all of the edibles that Eaton is making so that they all have like a vibe and then she puts in the natural and real ingredients that go to help that. So thank you. The nighttime one has black cherry in it because the. That's for nighttime.

[B]

Yeah, it's got cbn, which is a.

[C]

Did you work with the joints too? Cuz I tasted a flower. I did. I don't work.

[F]

No, we really formulated the edibles in particular so you can be the expert on the. On the joints over there.

[C]

Did I explain it? Kind of. Okay.

[F]

You crushed it.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

Thank you for keeping the show on the road.

[C]

No.

[A]

How do you feel. How do you feel as someone in integrated medicine about the actual smoke. Smoke of like. Yeah, is that a problem?

[C]

And I would actually rather her not answer that, if that's okay.

[A]

Yeah, sure.

[B]

No, I think we need a couple of hard truths to end the show. So don't be ourselves.

[A]

Also, I asked because of, because of the like, gummies are calories. I mean like you're eating.

[F]

Yeah, they're very. I mean, very low calories. Especially one. Having one or two as the doses are. I wouldn't even work, like, worry about calories. Calories. Actually, like, I really, I think our bodies are not calorie counters. They're not calculators. They're chemistry experiments. So you're deciding what you're putting in at all times. Times. And we're sort of getting output as well.

[C]

But we're doing chemistry day to day. Like you can't. Okay.

[F]

But you can decide what you're putting in. And then it kind. It's like, I don't think of things as like 35 calories for a spoon or you know, 20 calories per gummy. I really don't. I haven't thought about those in a long time. I'm aware. But like, I think once you can break up with calories, there's.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

There's a whole world out there.

[C]

You can't have avocado or salmon because there's fat. And I'm like, you're no. Like, I want it.

[F]

It's so important. That's, it's like actually like, okay, I'll have bread.

[A]

Like, what?

[B]

I know, I like, I like the name. I like the expression. Good fats.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

I'd like to pitch that as a nickname for myself going forward. I'd like you guys to call me Good Fat Parentheses, like avocado.

[A]

I actually do think that's the name of the drummer of Oasis. Good fat.

[B]

That's a great question, Lisa.

[C]

What do you snack on if you hate nuts? Don't tell me to eat a nut. I don't want a pistachio. I don't want it. I don't want a nut.

[F]

I would. Do you like avocado crackers? Like, you could even do healthier chips. You could do fruit veggies. You could do. I mean, even jerky olives. Are you salty, savory, sweet. What's your.

[C]

I'm really well balanced.

[B]

I'm getting snacks from all three food groups. Salty, sweet, and savory.

[C]

I love it.

[F]

I love it. Yeah. Well, I love to help people, like, figure out what they actually like so that eating healthy doesn't feel like a. Like a drag all the time. Like, that's not. That's. Nobody's gonna stick with that. So it's like, how do we bring the life force back to this?

[C]

Could we. White rice?

[F]

Yeah, you can eat white rice, but you gotta pair it. You gotta pair it with salmon and avocado or some veggies, too. So I'm always looking at, like, cigarettes and alcohol. No, not cigarettes and alcohol.

[C]

Go.

[B]

I want to shout out my cousin Patrick, who I think is here. I. I lived with him for like a month, and he taught me this awesome snack out. Snack hack. He takes Greek yogurt, puts flavored protein powder in it, and stirs it up. And it gets it to be like, you can get like a chocolate peanut butter kind of yogurty snack. And it's all like, super high protein and 0 points on weight Watchers. And I don't know why I know that info, but that snack for me is like a nice little treat when I'm stoned. And I want something that's, like, sweet, but I don't want to bust out the yassos or my ice cream or anything like that.

[A]

What's the deal with cottage cheese?

[F]

I like cottage cheese.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

It's a great high protein source. So if you're more. Somebody likes a little bit more salty, savory. That's a great alternative to a Greek yogurt.

[A]

Protein balls.

[F]

Depends what's in them.

[B]

Protein balls.

[A]

Protein bowls.

[F]

Yeah, they're usually like, protein.

[B]

Yeah. We definitely have to wrap this up soon.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

Before you shift into another character, we should start Tambourine head. Never mind. Another 28 minutes with this new guy.

[C]

I don't want it to end.

[B]

I don't want it to end.

[C]

I want more advice that I'm never gonna follow.

[B]

I like to have all that info in my head and still sort of reject it.

[A]

Yeah, it's like.

[C]

Sorry to bring up Allison again, but she told me cottage cheese with a little chili oil crisp.

[F]

Amazing.

[C]

Cuz I do honey and cottage cheese. But I would love a little spice.

[B]

Okay, you heard it here. We all like a little spice.

[A]

And how much cocaine are you allowed to do?

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

How much cocaine are you allowed to do?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We ask all our guests this one question.

[A]

Guys, thank you so much for coming out.

[B]

Yeah. To our amazing guests. Justin, Allison, Lisa, Carolyn, the wonderful people at Eaton, the wonderful people at the Bell house.

[A]

Love you, Bell House.

[B]

An Harris, Bernie Kaminsky, Maddie, everyone at Smart. This is serious. Thank you so much.

[A]

Thank you so much. And thank you for coming.

[B]

And of course, you're eating gummy. Thank you. To eat em gummies. Get yourself a discounted batch of gummies around the corner. And Adam, before we get out of.

[A]

Here, don't forget, stay alive.

[B]

Thank you. You have been listening to Staying Alive with John Gabris and Adam Pally. A Smartless media production in association with Sirius xm.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[A]

Just so everyone knows, we do not have a discord.

[B]

Don't reach out to us.

[A]

See us on the street. Walk the other way or you'll catch hands.

[C]

No, that happened to me kind of once where I was really addicted to getting my 10,000 steps and it was a snowstorm and I did go out in Uggs and I did. My toes turned blue. Yeah, it was like such an emergency. I called a camper I knew to help me. Not like a summer camper, like a woodsy girl.

[B]

Smart, less medium.

[E]

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