CBT & NKOTB (w/ Jillian Bell)

Summary

Podcast Summary: CBT & NKOTB (w/ Jillian Bell) Staying Alive with Jon Gabrus & Adam Pally
Hosted by SmartLess Media
Release Date: June 5, 2025

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I. Introduction and Guest Welcome (00:00 - 04:03)

Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally kick off the episode with their trademark humor, introducing their guest, Jillian Bell. They share light-hearted banter about their experiences and the excitement of interviewing Jillian, one of their favorite and most talented guests.

Notable Quote:

Jon Gabrus [04:03]: "We have Jillian Bell today, which is a thrill. Probably one of our most talented guests."

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II. Navigating the Entertainment Industry (04:03 - 16:38)

The conversation delves into the challenges of being an actor, particularly the awkwardness of being unrecognized on set. Jillian shares anecdotes about attending screenings where she's mistaken for background talent, highlighting the sometimes dehumanizing aspects of the industry.

Notable Quotes:

Jillian Bell [04:11]: "I had to do. We were doing a screening for the movie, Rough Night there. And I went in and I was like, I'm here for the screening. I'm in the cast."

Adam Pally [06:19]: "They think I'm a grip just because of my look."

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III. The Reality of Running and Physical Wellness (16:38 - 38:29)

Jillian and the hosts discuss their ventures into fitness, including running marathons and swimming. They share personal struggles and triumphs, emphasizing the mental and physical benefits of staying active. Jillian touches upon her role in directing and how it intersects with her wellness journey.

Notable Quotes:

Jillian Bell [35:20]: "I did love running while I was training for it. Like, I was like, okay, I hated it at first and then I figured it out."

Adam Pally [25:02]: "Keep shortening your life."

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IV. Mental Health and Coping Mechanisms (38:29 - 55:05)

A significant portion of the discussion centers around mental health. Jillian opens up about her experiences with anxiety and depression, particularly following a medical procedure. The trio explores strategies like Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) to manage negative thoughts and foster resilience.

Notable Quotes:

Jillian Bell [40:30]: "I had to have a fibroid removed from my uterus... It messed me up."

Jillian Bell [51:00]: "Cognitive behavioral therapy is another thing. I just started, and that might help you a lot."

Adam Pally [56:02]: "Sometimes when something bad happens, if I say to myself, thank you for this opportunity."

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V. Jillian Bell's Creative Ventures and Projects (55:05 - 73:53)

Jillian discusses her directing endeavors, including her first film Summer of 69. She details the creative process, challenges faced, and the joy of bringing her vision to life. The hosts express admiration for her talent and dedication, highlighting her multifaceted role in the entertainment industry.

Notable Quotes:

Jillian Bell [65:25]: "I was just trying to help."

Jillian Bell [67:21]: "The movie is coming out May 9th and it's gonna be on Hulu."

Adam Pally [68:25]: "But I was just like, I never could have pictured it."

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VI. Balancing Personal Life and Professional Demands (73:53 - 77:23)

The trio reflects on maintaining mental wellness amidst busy schedules. They discuss the importance of hobbies, self-care, and honest conversations about personal struggles. Jillian emphasizes the value of authenticity and vulnerability in fostering genuine connections.

Notable Quotes:

Jillian Bell [74:21]: "You just got to watch out for the shopping carts that are randomly in."

Jillian Bell [54:35]: "Like, depression, anxiety is a disability. It's something you just have to live with every day."

Adam Pally [74:30]: "You’re more than a credit score."

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VII. Closing Thoughts and Future Projects (77:23 - 78:04)

As the episode wraps up, Jon and Adam express their gratitude to Jillian for her openness and insightful contributions. They tease upcoming projects and encourage listeners to engage with Jillian's film, Summer of 69, set to release on Hulu.

Notable Quotes:

Jillian Bell [75:02]: "I hope people laughed and had real moments, but more laughs than real moments."

Adam Pally [75:06]: "We try not to be prescriptive because we don't do any of this stuff."

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VIII. Reflections on Mental Health and Creativity (54:00 - 60:00)

Continuing their deep dive into mental health, the hosts and Jillian discuss the interplay between creativity and mental well-being. They explore how creative outlets can both alleviate and sometimes exacerbate mental health challenges, advocating for a balanced approach.

Notable Quotes:

Jillian Bell [55:47]: "You could hit someone. You could, like, Right?"

Adam Pally [57:14]: "Sometimes when something bad happens, if I say to myself, thank you for this opportunity."

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IX. Navigating Personal Challenges and Growth (60:00 - 73:53)

The conversation shifts to personal growth and overcoming challenges. Jillian shares her journey of managing anxiety related to driving and the impact of a car accident on her mental health. The hosts relate by sharing their own experiences, emphasizing the importance of support systems and proactive coping strategies.

Notable Quotes:

Jillian Bell [61:05]: "I was like, I really want to make this kind of a coming of age story about two different aged women."

John Gabrus [63:31]: "She's still not driving."

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X. Final Reflections and Episodes Wrap-Up (73:53 - End)

In their final moments, the hosts and Jillian reflect on the importance of honesty in discussing mental health. They highlight the therapeutic benefits of sharing personal stories and encourage listeners to seek help when needed. The episode concludes with light-hearted banter, reinforcing the podcast's blend of humor and genuine conversation.

Notable Quotes:

Jillian Bell [75:49]: "Depression, anxiety is a disability. It's something you just have to live with every day."

John Gabrus [75:02]: "She also the first time I ever saw her was... I can't believe I'm laughing at this."

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Key Takeaways:

1. Honesty About Mental Health: Open conversations about anxiety and depression can foster understanding and support.
2. Balancing Wellness and Creativity: Engaging in creative projects and physical activities can aid in mental well-being.
3. Navigating the Entertainment Industry: Being an actor comes with unique challenges, including misidentification and high demands.
4. Personal Growth: Overcoming personal fears, such as driving anxiety, is achievable with the right strategies and support.

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Additional Resources:

• Jillian Bell's Film: Summer of 69 is set to release on Hulu on May 9th, 2025.
• Mental Health Support: If you or someone you know is struggling with mental health issues, consider reaching out to a professional for help.

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Transcript

[John Gabrus]

Smart.

[Adam Pally]

Bless me.

[John Gabrus]

Hey, everybody, Sean Hayes here.

[Adam Pally]

Listen, this podcast is not intended as a substitute for a physician's medical advice. My pod sons, John and Adam, are not doctors, to say the least. Listen for entertainment, not advice. Good.

[John Gabrus]

Okay, good.

[Adam Pally]

Enjoy the show, everybody. This is our first time in this studio, too, so we.

[Jillian Bell]

Is it really?

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Pretty thrilling.

[John Gabrus]

Conan just lifted my restraining order, so we're cool to be back, which is nice, kind of. I know we had a month early.

[Jillian Bell]

Wow.

[John Gabrus]

A month early.

[Adam Pally]

Thank God for Andy Richter's referral behavior.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, Andy. Andy put in three calls for his podcast.

[Adam Pally]

It's like, so ho. Ass. Well, Adam.

[John Gabrus]

Hello, Johnny.

[Adam Pally]

New studio. Our dreams over here. How are you? How are you feeling?

[John Gabrus]

I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling, you know, tired. I flew in and was shooting yesterday and, you know, I like that feeling. I like that feel. I love. I love the feeling of like.

[Adam Pally]

There'S.

[John Gabrus]

A car waiting for you early in the morning, and you get in the car and you're like, I'm a spy. I'm going to the airport. And then you fly and you go to work. It's like, I get off on.

[Adam Pally]

That's the best. Like, that is like, you know, you get to be like a prince for the day. You know what I mean? It feels so good. And you also get, like, you get to be like off duty on your other normal of like, sorry, can't. Shooting today is like the best. The best feeling.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Like, I am. I guess I'll skip the gym and you know what I mean?

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. My kids.

[Adam Pally]

I'm thinking more about, like. Yeah, like, where you're like, you know, your wife's like, hey, can you. And I'm like, today I'm shooting by and I only shoot once every three months.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, 100%. I'm like, I'm leaving at 4 in the morning, won't be back till 11. This only happens once a year. I can't do anything. Don't call me f. We have one of my favorite people on the show today.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, one of mine, too. I'm pretending. I'm going to pretend like I don't know who our guest is. Tell me more about.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, I. I don't understand why co hosts do that with each other. It's like we. We were given an itinerary.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. We know who's on every episode when it starts, but I guess, as a matter of fact, the listeners know because it's. It's listed in the title. Yeah, but.

[John Gabrus]

But I guess it's time, I guess.

[Adam Pally]

Are you guys watching this? Are you Gen Z and watching this? Or are you elder millennials and listening?

[John Gabrus]

I guess the real reason to do is to. For us to tell the audience how we feel about the person before they hear them.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. You know what? People might also just be on, like, burning through episodes and not, like, looking when they click. So, like.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, that's true.

[Adam Pally]

Or we're popping up on Sirius.

[John Gabrus]

Anyone listens to us at, like, 60 times fast.

[Adam Pally]

And it's like, if Paul Shear ever listens to our podcast, it's at, like, 1.8.

[John Gabrus]

I know.

[Adam Pally]

Crazy. I overheard his audiobook one time when we were working together, and I almost barfed. The person was like, what? He's just like some micro machine guy.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

He's like, suck it up.

[John Gabrus]

There's a priest in there. Dominic.

[Adam Pally]

I hear $4, $3, $3, $2, $2. An auction going down.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. He's like, how did your audiobook recording go? Not good. I sold a watch. We have Jillian Bell today, which is a thrill. Probably one of our most talented guests.

[Adam Pally]

So. Yeah, I mean, it's. It's a real who's who. Our guest list. And, you know, we got a big one, you know, big fish. Big fish and whale. I can't wait to get into it with her and see what she's up to.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. And I. Because she's funny and she's real, and she's everything.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Well, enough of this bullshit of us. Let's add Jillian, of course. Still do a ton of bullshit. Yeah. We won't let her talk over her. She's here now. We're not letting her talk.

[Jillian Bell]

Oh, my God. You know what? I just remembered when you said Soho House was not a member of Soho House, though. It's the opposite of who I am.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Jillian Bell]

And I had to do. We were doing a screening for the movie, Rough night there. And I went in and I was like, I'm here for the screening. I'm in the cast. And they're like, we don't see you on the list.

[John Gabrus]

Worst feeling ever.

[Jillian Bell]

And then they walk by with a cardboard cutout of the cast. And I was like, I'm that one worst feeling. And they were like, you still need to call someone. And I was like, I will never.

[John Gabrus]

That happens to me. I have. I have this energy. I, like, totally. I live that story. Like, I have this energy that apologizes for my existence, like, before. I, like, yes. You know what I mean? And so there are countless premieres that I've been Stopped at.

[Jillian Bell]

No.

[John Gabrus]

Where. They're like, oh, it happened to me yesterday. I was shooting yesterday, and I pulled up and, you know, you see the yellow things, like, the yellow pointing.

[Jillian Bell]

Pointing this way.

[John Gabrus]

Pull in and. And they're like, who.

[Adam Pally]

Who.

[John Gabrus]

Who are you? Basically like, what are you doing? You know? And I'm like, oh, I'm. I'm. And you don't want to be like, you know. Yeah. So I'm like, I'm. I'm an actor.

[Adam Pally]

And they go, this is a rental. I normally drive something. Baller.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. I'm like, I'm an act. I'm an. I'm an actor in. In the production. And the guy's like, oh, well, yeah, well, then you gotta park all the way down at the thing. And then I was like, well, now I'm in a predicament.

[Jillian Bell]

You think you were background?

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Jillian Bell]

Oh, no.

[John Gabrus]

So, like, part. I could really go through this because I. And go to background parking and really, like, feel that, because part of me wanted to do that.

[Jillian Bell]

Right? You were like, I cannot.

[John Gabrus]

Anyway. I don't deserve to have. Anyway. But then I did the opposite thing, and I went, that's my trailer. And the guy was like, oh. And then I was like, damn it. Like, I'm now in it.

[Jillian Bell]

He's like, got you.

[John Gabrus]

And I was like, I don't want this energy, like.

[Adam Pally]

And that exact thing has happened to me on set for something. Like, oh, yeah. Someone's like, excuse me, can you get out of the chair? Chair? Because we're trying. And I'm like, well, they said to get the host in the chair. They're like, yeah. And I'm like, oh, my God. They think I'm a grip just because of my look. And I have, like, a backwards hat and shorts on. And I'm like, oh, I am the host of this show. And the guy was like, I am so sorry.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Jillian Bell]

They're like, get out of the way.

[Adam Pally]

I'm like, the dumbest. Sit on the Apple box. Get the out of here.

[Jillian Bell]

You free? I. I have to tell her that. Well, wait. Do we have to start, or are we recording? Because we should be recording.

[John Gabrus]

We don't do any of that.

[Jillian Bell]

You don't record anything.

[Adam Pally]

We don't record anything.

[John Gabrus]

There's a couple things we do that are different than podcasts.

[Jillian Bell]

Okay.

[John Gabrus]

It's not. So it's just for now.

[Adam Pally]

Tomorrow, we'll try to remember the conversation.

[Jillian Bell]

Have an actor come in to play me.

[John Gabrus]

Yes. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Ed Norton.

[Jillian Bell]

I was.

[John Gabrus]

Odd choice. He's got range.

[Jillian Bell]

Edward Norton would be A great Jillian Bell. Have you seen Parable Fear?

[Adam Pally]

That's your Julian Bell.

[John Gabrus]

That's the Julian Bell.

[Adam Pally]

I didn't hurt them.

[Jillian Bell]

He's like, well, good for you, Marty. I've seen that movie too many times.

[John Gabrus]

I love that movie.

[Adam Pally]

You always get surprised at the end, too.

[Jillian Bell]

No, now I do the dorky thing of making Ed. Everyone I know watch it with me. And then I just stare at them while he's like. Starts the slow clap in prison at the end.

[John Gabrus]

I love that movie. I do think, and I. I hope you're not, because you're a super fan, that I do think that Primal fear is a shortcut to a good performance. With the way they cut the double personality, like. Oh, you know what I mean? There is like the. The trope of it in that movie. Heavy of like, I would like that. No, I won't. It's like, you know, it's like very easy.

[Adam Pally]

It's like kind of when you get an award for more acting.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, yeah. You're like, I get. All right. Like, you know, it kind of doesn't.

[Jillian Bell]

Let me ask you this. Who deserves an award more? Is it. Is it Edward Norton in that performance or Lindsay Lohan in the Parent Trap playing two different.

[John Gabrus]

Honestly, Lindsay Lohan, to me, is a more comedic. I mean, that. First of all, Lindsay Lohan, I'll go on record, is one of my favorite actors.

[Jillian Bell]

I thought you were to say I would go on record that that is a more comedic performance than primal fear.

[John Gabrus]

No, Primal Fear is way funnier. No, I would never. I never.

[Adam Pally]

Lindsay Lohan, we went to the same school district. She's a Calhoun grad.

[John Gabrus]

I think Lohan, honestly, you know, Lohan got a bad rap. Lohan got a bad rap and got mixed up.

[Jillian Bell]

She's back.

[John Gabrus]

She's back. And she's.

[Jillian Bell]

She deserves.

[John Gabrus]

Now she's going to have a huge comeback, like Academy Award winning.

[Adam Pally]

You think assuming the entertainment industry comes back, she'll be a major part of.

[John Gabrus]

Start making movies again?

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If we're able to ever be on a set again and be confused for background.

[John Gabrus]

I was told yesterday we weren't.

[Adam Pally]

Fingers crossed.

[John Gabrus]

I was told yesterday there will be no.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah, Wait. Well, did you just get fired then?

[John Gabrus]

No, no, no, no. They said today is the last day of the industry.

[Jillian Bell]

Of the industry.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Jillian Bell]

Oh, my God.

[Adam Pally]

It was right after I read. It was right after I auditioned. They said, you know what? We're shutting down Hollywood.

[John Gabrus]

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[Adam Pally]

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[Jillian Bell]

I have to tell you this real quick. So I. My friend Vanessa was on Blue Bloods, the show Blue Bloods. So she is very good friends with Donnie Wahlberg. Now, my number one crush from when I was a kid was Donnie Wahlberg. I love New Kids on the Block. My first concert burnt down a hotel room. He was the bad boy. I was very into him. And New Kids on the Block, she was like, I'm gonna be in a New Kids on the Block video. Come and we'll see if we can get you in. And I was like, I am. I've never been more there. I'm there.

[Adam Pally]

This already has inherent, like, the whole, we'll try to get you in flashback. We'll get you into the club. Don't worry. And then also as you get older, like, no, you'll be my plus one in the premiere. It's no problem.

[John Gabrus]

Totally makes me like, yes.

[Jillian Bell]

I was blind into the fact of what was about to happen. Like, I was like, oh, it's gonna be cool. Maybe she'll, like, drop a credit. Be like, no, no, credits were dropped. I literally was sitting there just watching the New Kids on the Block like, get in hair and makeup up for their thing. And I was just sitting on a couch petting a dog. There was a dog, right?

[John Gabrus]

Because you're like, I. This feels like a norm. This feels normal. I know how to do this.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

I know this weird thing in this weird moment, right? I'm always like, in those moments, I'm always, like, looking for a cup or something.

[Jillian Bell]

I'm always, always a cup.

[John Gabrus]

I'm like, good.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah. Yeah, good.

[John Gabrus]

Or like, I know how to. And then I'm like, that's why I'm.

[Adam Pally]

Like, at like a premiere party. I'll piss like 40 times because I've had like a hundred beverages. Because I'm like, well, no one's talking to me.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I feel like I gotta get another one it up a little. I haven't spoken. I'm in this circle for eight minutes. I haven't spoken. Maybe it's kind of.

[John Gabrus]

Well, good luck, everyone.

[Adam Pally]

They're like, who the.

[John Gabrus]

If anyone runs into me on, like, an award weekend in Hollywood where I am nothing to do with it. But I'm at that party. I'm up because I am so nervous. I don't feel like I should be there. But everyone's like, no, you go to the night before thing. And I'm like, really haven't worked in four years. They're like, no, no, no, you go.

[Jillian Bell]

You go, you go. Everyone goes.

[Adam Pally]

You got to show tons of friends there.

[John Gabrus]

And they're like, ye.

[Adam Pally]

They're all.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah, they're all there.

[Adam Pally]

Brunson won't look at me.

[John Gabrus]

You show up, and then you just drink because you're like, oh, my God.

[Jillian Bell]

This is something I know.

[John Gabrus]

I know how to do.

[Jillian Bell]

And you look over to the right, and Nicole Kidman is floating by. She has some kind of rollerblades that are keeping under her gown that make her just explode.

[John Gabrus]

It's the worst feeling. And you're like, I'm in. Yes, I'm part of it, but I'm not part of it, you know? And I always.

[Adam Pally]

And you almost want to get ahead of it. Like, even in the. You're like, I know. I'm like, just hanging out here.

[Jillian Bell]

I'm not being presumptive at all. I don't think I'm going to be the star of this music video. Video. Well, it turns out at one point, they were like, we need more people. You and you, can you come? And I was like, what? And they were like, here, we'll give you a costume. And then the costume was, like, throwing on a leather vest or something. And I was like, what am I wearing? And it was like a 1980s, like, a tribute to the 80s and how much they love the 80s. And so it was like all these different, like, bad, like, Michael Jackson music video. So I was in the background of that, and they go, okay, background. And they're shoving me in, and I was, like, looking around the room, and they're like, and now everyone just, you know, pretend you have a knife and dance around. And I was in the back going, oh, my God, I don't know what to do right now. I don't think I'm better than anyone. But I obviously, like, if someone watches this music video, they're gonna be like, is that my friend Jillian? That's where you go, why is she in the back?

[Adam Pally]

I'll do anything in the music video. I'll be an extra. And they're like, sure. And you're like, wait, What? Wait, I'm sure. I was hoping to get paid.

[Jillian Bell]

Was like, the first ad, like, manhandling and, like, pushing my shoulder. And I was like, everyone should be lovelier to background people.

[John Gabrus]

It is always humbling the. The way background is treated so awfully.

[Jillian Bell]

It's terrible.

[Adam Pally]

Especially around Joey McIntyre.

[Jillian Bell]

No, they were also sweet. They weren't even there for that part. So, like, once they get there, take it easy.

[Adam Pally]

You're not even on set with them.

[Jillian Bell]

They're not there yet. It's like they're teaching us what to do before they. The real stars come in. And they're still being.

[John Gabrus]

And there's. The ad is, like, still being, like, hey, what's wrong with you? You never walked before, you know, and.

[Jillian Bell]

You'Re always that way.

[Adam Pally]

Christ. Can we get someone that moves normal over here?

[John Gabrus]

Like, hey, hey, tooth man.

[Adam Pally]

Tooth.

[John Gabrus]

The guy with the tooth.

[Jillian Bell]

And everyone's like, am I the guy with. No, I'm always the guy with the tooth. I'm like, why?

[John Gabrus]

And then. And then you stand up like, no, no, no, you're the hat man. Tooth man. You know, you're like, it's. It is like, the most inhumane way.

[Jillian Bell]

I was in a scene once where I had, like, a lot of dialogue, but there was a background artist next to me, and he just goes, I'm gonna say something in the next take.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, God.

[Jillian Bell]

And I was like. And I couldn't concentrate, so I kept flubbing because I was like, when's he gonna pipe? Because he'd be like. Like, he was waiting.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, my God.

[Adam Pally]

It was horrible.

[John Gabrus]

That horrific feeling. And, you know, that's the one thing.

[Adam Pally]

You'Re not allowed to do.

[John Gabrus]

You're like, I. I could get fired so easily.

[Jillian Bell]

I know.

[John Gabrus]

Like, because I always carry that energy on set. It's just like, I want to be good.

[Jillian Bell]

Like, good, light energy.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, Any moment. I know that.

[John Gabrus]

I know you're. I know you have power. I'm good on a set, though. Everyone likes working with me. I like.

[Adam Pally]

I.

[John Gabrus]

But, you know, you feel. You feel that, like, especially early on, you're like, I don't. This could go a million ways.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

You know, and the. The last thing that you ever want is someone else's energy of their feeling like that, you know? And it's inevitable that when you get into those conversations, like, it's. It's gonna happen. And I remember we were. We were shooting a party scene on. On the Steph Curry show, and it was, like, Stefan's first big scene, and we were, like, at a club, and Eggo, and I would, like, do the scene, and then just like, shut down, you know, like, brain dead. And he was, like, weirded out a little because we were just like, like, going to her phones. Because when you're in a scene like that, there's so many people. Everyone's trying to make eye contact.

[Adam Pally]

Energy vampires.

[John Gabrus]

Yes. Everyone's trying to make eye contact. And they're trying to have a moment, you know, to be like. Yeah. And it's totally valid. They're part of the show and. But it's, like, crazy to suck that energy. And Stefan would. He's so nice and so looking at everyone. Looking at everyone, talking to everyone. And then I could see, like, it started to pile up and pile up and pile up. And between takes, there were, like. It was, like, lines of people waiting.

[Jillian Bell]

And he probably was exhausted after an exhaust hour and a half.

[John Gabrus]

Couldn't even. The scene. We had to, like, cut the scene down because it was just too much. And it was like.

[Jillian Bell]

Sweetheart.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Jillian Bell]

That's very sweet, though.

[John Gabrus]

It was so sweet. But then I. I had to be like, hey, man, tomorrow, don't talk to anybody. Like, just. You see how I go dead? Like, you see how I'm dead behind the eyes?

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

And I give. And it's like. And you were wondering, like, what's going on with Adam?

[Jillian Bell]

Right?

[John Gabrus]

You gotta do that tomorrow.

[Jillian Bell]

You gotta like.

[John Gabrus]

You gotta just, like. Like, ego. Like, you gotta just, like, pipe down. And he could not do it. Like, he's. And I was, like, too genuine, too sweet, too real.

[Jillian Bell]

That's very sweet.

[Adam Pally]

So can we find this new.

[Jillian Bell]

No, I'm not in it. I got pulled out. Me and, like, a couple others. They were like, ashley, we don't need you. And I was like, thank God.

[John Gabrus]

That sounds like a lie for. That sounds like a cover. We gotta find Billy.

[Jillian Bell]

No, I wish I was in it now because, honestly, at that point, she.

[Adam Pally]

Was a leather vest and it's, like, really heavy.

[Jillian Bell]

I was like, just go for it.

[John Gabrus]

Dancing.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah. It was, like, in the background, like. Like, supposed to be, like, with a knife or being like. Yeah. Like, while they're fighting and awesome. And. And then they cut me out and I was like. That was. It was such a funny situation that I walked away.

[John Gabrus]

About new kids so much was their working class pop stardom, you know? Like, they really were like, we're just bros. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Like, sexy.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah, They're. They're Boston guys.

[John Gabrus]

But they would be up there, like, like, really boy banding, you know, like, with, like, insane choreography and stuff. And then it would be done. They'd be like, thanks. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Why?

[John Gabrus]

Like, yeah, it was pretty good up there.

[Adam Pally]

I pretended to like it.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, we got. We were wicked off by a couple measures.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Like, I. I pretended to like them to talk to girls at school. Same thing with, like, 90210. Like, I watched every episode. But then eventually with both of them, I got really into them. Like, I was like, I could watch this and I could talk to Trisha at school. Then I watch it, I'm like, like, man, this Dylan character is trouble. Like. Or like, they do have the right stuff.

[John Gabrus]

When 902 first started that year when the kid killed himself was, like, horrible. Yeah, I played with a gun through my school when he played with a gun.

[Jillian Bell]

Oh, yeah, we played with a gun.

[Adam Pally]

He takes. He's like having. He's like, look.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah, we are remembering this wrong, but I love it. He was like.

[John Gabrus]

And he said something about Jews, right? He was like.

[Jillian Bell]

When I was, you know, researching your show and what it was about, I was like, oh, that's so interesting that, like, everyone I know watches, like, baby reindeer to go to sleep.

[John Gabrus]

I know.

[Jillian Bell]

Where did we leave off? Oh, during the rape. You're like, well, okay, so we'll. We'll fast forward household. I'm a Dateline household, so.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, that's even scary.

[John Gabrus]

That's even scary because that feels real to me. Like, that feels so comforting. I fall asleep to, like, the Dun Dun. And like, yeah, like, that sound is now Pavlovian to me because my wife is just. I've seen every single Law and Order.

[Adam Pally]

I keep a 8 by 10 of Jerry Orbach. When I need Adam to fall asleep, I just hold it up.

[John Gabrus]

And he's like, well, I do have his eye. So.

[Adam Pally]

Jillian Bell.

[Jillian Bell]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

What do you do to stay alive? Laughing like a person who maybe has a long list.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah. Yeah, it's. It's funny because I am not doing well. I will say, yeah, you look great. Thank you so much.

[Adam Pally]

Welcome to the Perfect podcast for have Big plans.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. Also, look at us.

[Adam Pally]

We're somehow two before pictures.

[Jillian Bell]

I think everyone's. I just keep saying every day, everyone's doing the. The goddamn best they can.

[John Gabrus]

I know when people are like, how you doing? It almost feels like we can't say good anymore. You go, like, I'm great. People are like, even the lottery.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah. Like, what happened?

[John Gabrus]

I looked up.

[Adam Pally]

I've had, like six interactions where some, like, I said, no. I just got a lot of going on. And they were like, me too. And we were like, okay, yeah, like, we're not gonna. I Don't want to. I don't want to pile it on you.

[John Gabrus]

You don't want to pile it on me hanging in? Because I feel like hanging in gives the. Gives the other person. It's like. It's like a volley back, you know? It's like, I'm hanging in.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Things are up and down.

[Jillian Bell]

That's better than what I say. Do you want to ask me how I'm doing?

[John Gabrus]

Sure. How you. How you doing?

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, Just hand the coffee to him.

[John Gabrus]

Hand right back. Do. Do you catch yourself ever, like, saying the wrong thing to the response and then being hoping that they don't notice?

[Jillian Bell]

Like, where they're like, well, honestly, like.

[John Gabrus]

How are you doing? And you're, like, smart or something. You're like, whoops. Yeah.

[Jillian Bell]

I'm more the person that will, like, be honest and then see the life, like, pour out of their skin.

[Adam Pally]

I had to adjust that.

[Jillian Bell]

I mean, but you. The new season of Traitors was great. And they're like, oh, are you okay? I'm like, no.

[Adam Pally]

There isn't an element amongst my friend group where we just stand around and go, did you see Black Bag yet? And it's like, yes, I did. We're like, just have, like, the safest conversation. No one going interior whatsoever. It's like, I like films. It's like, me too. Soderbergh is great. Yeah. I liked it more than presence. And no one. Everyone's got, like, nosebleeds and gasps and crutches and no one will talk about.

[John Gabrus]

It's like, that's like Improv team. Before you start warming up before your show. It's always like, conversations. Safe conversation.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[Jillian Bell]

You know, you can stay in a good head space.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

So it's like you find a car door again.

[Jillian Bell]

You know, it's like, we'll have, like, a couple people over for dinner and just be talking. And then everyone's like, yeah, well. And then I'm like, oh, we're gonna get into the heavy stuff. So I'm like, if you could have another name, what would it be?

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, you don't.

[Jillian Bell]

If you could rename yourself, what would it be? You don't like it.

[John Gabrus]

You don't like it. You don't like getting into.

[Jillian Bell]

I hate it. I hate it.

[Adam Pally]

Well, too bad.

[John Gabrus]

That's the first.

[Adam Pally]

What's wrong with your life? We leave.

[Jillian Bell]

No, seriously. I don't even notice because I'm just like, yeah, well, just like a Johnny Cash, like, a long time ago.

[John Gabrus]

We don't do intros, so this one would Be like a special episode today.

[Jillian Bell]

On a special episode.

[John Gabrus]

Honestly a little odd. What I.

[Adam Pally]

But what are you doing? Anything to push back the.

[Jillian Bell]

Kim.

[John Gabrus]

We both do so much.

[Jillian Bell]

Have a therapist. I have a psychiatrist now. I'm on anti anxiety medication. I'm on Chinese herbs.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, the best kind.

[Jillian Bell]

I have it in the car. I don't know but what's it like?

[John Gabrus]

Did you get it in Studio City at that place?

[Jillian Bell]

I ordered it online. Oh wow.

[John Gabrus]

You're indeed pre tariffs.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah. Host Terry Robin Weller over here.

[John Gabrus]

She directs one movie.

[Adam Pally]

I get Chinese herbs and Venezuelan crude oil.

[Jillian Bell]

For about half an hour a day. I lay on a blanket outside in the lawn really. And get sun.

[John Gabrus]

That's really cool.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Is that like a meditation too? Do you like or your phone?

[Jillian Bell]

Oh, I think I'm screaming in my brain. Yeah, you're probably.

[Adam Pally]

But it is like that it. That is like a powerful thing. The non meditators just like it's crazy that you don't really sit still for 30 minutes and like in. In life without like a device or some sort or something. So it's like that's a powerful move.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah. Just being like I'm going to lay.

[Adam Pally]

Like it's crazy to imagine how difficult just laying down for 30 minutes when. When you're supposed to be awake and doing stuff is like.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah, yeah. You're like I could be doing work right now.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Jillian Bell]

But instead son.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah but you're trying to read a book where you're like I can't believe I read for 20 minutes.

[Jillian Bell]

I know.

[Adam Pally]

I'm a academic and I swear my.

[John Gabrus]

Phone for my phone like crazy. Like I hate the call the like dopamine call to it that where you're like doing something total. Like you could be exercising.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

And. And. And listening to music and all of a sudden you'll be like I should check my phone. You know and that.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

How it's so pervasive.

[Jillian Bell]

I know.

[Adam Pally]

You know, I wonder what all those busty ladies on my for you page are up to right now.

[John Gabrus]

I wonder if they're working out too. And then I just somewhere out there.

[Adam Pally]

Rain on the rain.

[John Gabrus]

It's myself as like a five.

[Jillian Bell]

Who's going west.

[John Gabrus]

Who's going west looking for busty.

[Adam Pally]

There are no jobs in America. I love waking up in the morning taking off my whatever nasty underwear I slept and throw slapping on fresh Voris and then hitting the gym hard 100%.

[John Gabrus]

I mean who isn't you know that that I only want to look good. Cuz if you look Good, you feel good.

[Adam Pally]

And if you feel good, you look good. You can tackle anything when you're wearing your Voris.

[John Gabrus]

I ordered a. A hoodie.

[Adam Pally]

Ooh, okay. I wasn't even. I. I went full all like performance shorts.

[John Gabrus]

I like to exercise in a hoodie.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, you do.

[John Gabrus]

I. Well, I also, I. This is dumb, but it reminds me of like high school football, like where it's like you're getting that extra sweat, like having the hoodie tied tight and you're like getting, you know what the.

[Adam Pally]

Gym nuts call wearing that big hoodie over. They call it the pump cover. The P. So then when you're lifting weights, you don't get to see until you're ready to reveal the pump to yourself.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, hell.

[Adam Pally]

And then you pop your pump cover off and you're like, oh yeah, the buys are flowing.

[John Gabrus]

It is really dramatic. It tracks for me.

[Adam Pally]

It does feel like, you know, you turn your head around, it's your and it's a switch or whatever.

[John Gabrus]

I like that. I can't wait for it to get here.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, well, I'm, I'm stoked. I. I'm in New York now, but I have ordered shorts to my LA apartment so I'm going to arrive to some.

[John Gabrus]

Some course best when I'm leaving on a plane from my house, like when I'm on the Runway way will order something to be delivered to my home so that I know when I get back from my trip, there's just a little treat for myself.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, hell yeah. I cannot wait. And I also when I need to jump start my fitness, like a little gear is inspirational. Yeah. So when I get home and I have my fresh pair of core shorts waiting for me, that's going to make me want to go for a jog or make me hit the gym.

[John Gabrus]

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[Adam Pally]

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[John Gabrus]

You're one of my favorite favorite act comedic actor. I don't even know.

[Jillian Bell]

That's so nice what we call each.

[John Gabrus]

Other anymore because like I know, like we're just like funny people. You remember my content creators clowns. You're one of my.

[Jillian Bell]

Thank you.

[Adam Pally]

You're one of my favorite clowns.

[John Gabrus]

You then Felipe, you did that. I feel like you did the thing this year that you did the thing that we all want to do, which is be like, I'm gonna be the head clown.

[Jillian Bell]

Yes.

[John Gabrus]

You know what I mean?

[Jillian Bell]

Top clown.

[John Gabrus]

Top clown did that.

[Adam Pally]

This is top clown, not top scallop.

[John Gabrus]

Did that change in like in what you were doing to stay alive?

[Jillian Bell]

Because that was the healthiest I've ever been was directing that movie. I actually got sick twice during like prep and then actual production. But I was the happiest I've ever been. It was the most creatively fulfilling and stressful and beautiful things I've ever been able to be a part of.

[John Gabrus]

Really.

[Adam Pally]

I love.

[John Gabrus]

That's so nice to hear. Cause I feel like one of my. I want to do it so bad and like everyone's always like, I'm going to do it eventually once I like stop drinking, but I'm going to do it. But I, I. It's such a huge imposition in your mind, especially when you've worked on sets like, you know, big and small for so long as you have. Your career is like immense with stuff. You, you. It feels so daunting to be like, I'm going to do tip to tales on everything in a project and then also not, not eat everything and. And drink everything and die.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Like that seems so daunting.

[Jillian Bell]

Well, I will say that because I like being honest that while I was doing it, I was also on Zepbound. Do you guys know.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Familiar.

[Jillian Bell]

It's very helpful they're finding it's like helping people with your On Manjaro.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. I started to see this podcast.

[Jillian Bell]

It's very helpful with like any like addictions so like repetitive thoughts or any.

[John Gabrus]

I'm not having that as much you're not. I'm drinking right through it.

[Adam Pally]

But you're. You're getting started, right?

[John Gabrus]

I'm as fresh in as when the guy was on.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Okay.

[Jillian Bell]

How long has that been?

[Adam Pally]

Well, for the listeners, two and a half weeks, Eight weeks For us, like, two weeks?

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, two and a half weeks.

[Jillian Bell]

Okay. Okay.

[John Gabrus]

Two and a half weeks.

[Jillian Bell]

All right.

[John Gabrus]

But you like it?

[Jillian Bell]

But I liked it. And honestly, it just kind of like. I don't know, it helped with my concentration, and it just made me feel like I wasn't as obsessed with food. I've had a lot of food obsession over my whole life. And so that was the only thing different during that time that I was doing that I'm not doing now. But I. I just felt like being on a set where you're like, they ask you a thousand questions a day and. And 80% you don't know the answer to. And you're like, just pick red or blue. Like, or. What do you think to the person that you hired? Because that's their job, and they're really excited and passionate about it and trust them.

[John Gabrus]

Right.

[Jillian Bell]

But I. I don't love acting. Like, I like it when I get into it, and I'm like, okay, I've nailed about five days of work, and I didn't fail.

[John Gabrus]

Right, Right.

[Jillian Bell]

But my anxiety is very high. I'm, like, a highly functioning, anxious person. So directing felt like, okay, I'm stepping back. I've got a lot more responsibility. But for some reason, it feels less scary to me than being an actor on a set.

[John Gabrus]

Because you're, like, in control.

[Jillian Bell]

I guess so.

[John Gabrus]

Because you, like, you feel like you're getting into the car and you can control the mirrors and the volume, and you're not, like, along for the ride.

[Jillian Bell]

Which is a great analogy, because I do not drive anymore.

[John Gabrus]

You stopped driving?

[Jillian Bell]

Yes, I stopped driving, like, three years ago.

[John Gabrus]

Wow.

[Jillian Bell]

I had a panic attack on the freeway.

[John Gabrus]

Whoa. While you were driving? Yes. And so you. So you.

[Jillian Bell]

And I was like, I don't know how this works. Like, you're going, like, 75 miles per hour. And all of a sudden, I was headed towards Palm Springs, and I turned, like, got off the road, and then I was. Was like, I don't know how to drive a car. Like, it just freaked me out. And I could drive a car. I think I was just very anxious. So I got to, like, a double tree in and stayed the night there. And then my sister came out and with her husband, and they drove me back. But, like, I've tried driving. It's very hard for me. It's like, you guys, I'm a crazier person than you thought, right?

[John Gabrus]

No, you're like, stay.

[Adam Pally]

I'm very happy to hear it.

[John Gabrus]

Excuse me for looking at you like Walton Goggins in that monologue.

[Jillian Bell]

I was like, I don't.

[John Gabrus]

Mostly I was thinking just the whole time, I'm like, well, why don't you live in New York?

[Jillian Bell]

I know. I do love New York, and I lived there before. I wrote for SNL for like a year and I was like, oh, I enjoyed it.

[John Gabrus]

I live there and like, it's. If you don't like driving.

[Jillian Bell]

I know, I know.

[John Gabrus]

It's great.

[Jillian Bell]

It's hard because all of my family's out here.

[John Gabrus]

So are you California born and broke?

[Jillian Bell]

No, Las Vegas.

[John Gabrus]

Awesome.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, hell yeah. I love that. That's where you were born and where we will d.

[John Gabrus]

I love Las Vegas.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. We're upset.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. Are you? Are you? I feel like a lot of people that are from Las Vegas are kind.

[Jillian Bell]

Of like, yeah, I know. I have love for it.

[John Gabrus]

Okay.

[Jillian Bell]

There's certain things that were like, I don't appreciate as much as other people because it was just so much in Vegas, like, Elvis was lost on me because it was just all Elvis impersonators growing up. And I was like, oh, it's like Mickey Mouse.

[Adam Pally]

What a weird. What a weird city. We were obsessed with Elvis for about seven decades.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah, exactly.

[Adam Pally]

His, like, legacy outlived him. Like, no one's even playing his music. It's just about, like, looking and like.

[John Gabrus]

I feel like that's what Toronto is going to be with Drake, you know what I mean? Because, like, Elvis wasn't even the best, like, entertainer. Like, there was like Johnny Cash at the time and like, you know what I mean? Music that lives on, like, really heavily.

[Adam Pally]

Wait a minute. I have to go back to this driving thing. You were driving pretty frequently before this and it just.

[Jillian Bell]

All the time.

[Adam Pally]

And there is something crazy about driving where if you really start to think, like, you're on the highway, you're like, I don't know who any of these assholes are.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And they're all driving 70 miles an hour in like 6 ton death reaches.

[Jillian Bell]

And we're all this far apart, we're unarmed.

[Adam Pally]

And I'm fully trusting all these people.

[Jillian Bell]

Like, no, I know if I talk about it enough with you, you will stop driving. That's why I'm like, I don't want to get into it too much.

[John Gabrus]

No, I mean, I don't I, I.

[Adam Pally]

Came from New York.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

You never like driving, so I was never a big fan. And now I've come around to it because it's like, this is easier than anything, El.

[John Gabrus]

But we drive when we're on the road. When we're on the road together, I do most of the driving.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, yeah, well, you like driving. You drive in New York City, which is crazy.

[Jillian Bell]

I like crazy.

[Adam Pally]

He drives like a family sized car in New York.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, I just always drove in the city and like, yeah, I like drive. I like driving.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

It's like, I also, when my kids get out of the car, it's the greatest feeling.

[Jillian Bell]

Because you're like, when they leave.

[Adam Pally]

Yes.

[John Gabrus]

No, you heard me right.

[Adam Pally]

It was so nice to drive with you, but I can't and wait for you to get out.

[John Gabrus]

No, it's just like you. It's a similar feeling to what you were saying about work because it's like the more you wake up in the morning and you, you feed them and it's so early and it's a lot of effort and you get them dressed and you, you, you make sure they have all their stuff and then you take them to school and they get out and they, and they like wave at you and they walk into school and you feel like, I did it.

[Jillian Bell]

I did it.

[Adam Pally]

You look at the clock and you're like, oh, shit. 2:30 is not for like five hours.

[John Gabrus]

Exactly. And you're like, oh, my God, I did it. Like, I did a great job today.

[Jillian Bell]

Oh, my God.

[John Gabrus]

Like, that's.

[Adam Pally]

It's time to get morning pizza. Time to get wasted till 2 o' clock when I got to pick him up. I can get drunk till 12:30.

[John Gabrus]

Sober house. I am a member.

[Jillian Bell]

God, you love it.

[John Gabrus]

I'm not.

[Adam Pally]

You made a movie about marathons.

[John Gabrus]

I love that movie.

[Adam Pally]

I love and I love, I love that movie. And as a person who has a very complicated relationship with running and has completed a couple of half marathons, congratulations. Did you take any love of it away, away from the picture?

[Jillian Bell]

I did. I did love running while I was training for it. Like, I was like, okay, I, I hated it at first and then I figured it out. It's a head game. You're just like having to be like, okay, I'll. I'll stop once I get to that point. You know what? I've gotten to that point. I think I'm gonna keep going.

[Adam Pally]

It's so crazy. Like, when, when someone says, like, oh, man, I feel great after a run. And you're like, I cannot wrap my head around it. And then you run for like three weeks and you're like, I feel great after running. I'm one of these assholes. I can't believe I become.

[Jillian Bell]

And.

[Adam Pally]

And then I feel like running has that steepest. Like if you go from couch to 5k or whatever. When you go from zero, all of a sudden you're like, well, I can run a half mile now. I'm like, maybe tomorrow I could do three quarters of. And you really can. And there's like a steep increase. Then you're like, oh, I ran six miles. This. I mean, and if you're training for a marathon, you gotta run like a 20 mile weekend or something like that. And I was getting up to the point where I ran a half marathon. I was like, I never could have picture it. I. I get exhausted driving 13.1 miles.

[Jillian Bell]

I have to say, the people that do that at the, the full marathons, they're super humans. Like, I can't believe it. We went and we shot at the actual New York City Marathon.

[Adam Pally]

Awesome, isn't it? Kind of fucking thrilling too, in a weird way.

[Jillian Bell]

High that you cannot. Like, it's religious almost like, I'm like, what is this? Everybody, like, everybody's ready to do something. Getting those silver capes, big challenge.

[John Gabrus]

And they're like everywhere.

[Jillian Bell]

They're like, I hope I can do it. And here we go. And we had to do the, the, the opening of the race like three times because there's, you know, there's a bunch of different times that people are starting and, and different groups. And every time I was just like, this is the most exciting thing. And they're blasting New York, New York.

[Adam Pally]

And what a fun way to, like, get some of the juice without having to do another 25.9 miles.

[Jillian Bell]

Well, the sweetest thing too was we. We did the finish line like four times. Every single time, at some point from the where I started through the finish line, someone helped me.

[John Gabrus]

Really?

[Jillian Bell]

Because they saw they thought I was.

[John Gabrus]

Struggling because of the scene. Yes, that's so.

[Jillian Bell]

So they had to cut together. Okay, the first take of this one, no one was helping her. The second take, in the middle, no one was helping her.

[Adam Pally]

It's like a different.

[Jillian Bell]

Someone was always like, you got this and they're like, helping you.

[John Gabrus]

I got in trouble for that on the subway. I was helping too much.

[Adam Pally]

I saw, I saw she had a tin foil blanket on, so I started massaging the kids.

[Jillian Bell]

I was just trying to help.

[John Gabrus]

That's so awesome. Now do you. Do you like right, run now and like think. Or is it.

[Jillian Bell]

No, no, I. I like to swim. That's like my happy place.

[Adam Pally]

I just swam yesterday at the.

[John Gabrus]

At the.

[Adam Pally]

Well, I'm going to gatekeep my pool.

[Jillian Bell]

Okay.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Jillian Bell]

Don't tell everyone.

[Adam Pally]

I don't need. I don't need any of these.

[Jillian Bell]

We find out later. It's just your own at my house.

[Adam Pally]

Your house? When are you coming over?

[Jillian Bell]

What did you do?

[John Gabrus]

It's the reservoir.

[Adam Pally]

The LA River. If you swim with the current, you can get done before the cops can get to you. You just got to watch out for the shopping carts that are randomly in.

[Jillian Bell]

There and the floating poop.

[John Gabrus]

No.

[Adam Pally]

Well, that is part. I'm adding to that.

[John Gabrus]

We call those river river wheels.

[Jillian Bell]

That's all me, baby.

[John Gabrus]

You can tell they have his name on them.

[Adam Pally]

My shit doesn't float. Unfortunately. I got to figure out out my diet. My goes right to the bottom and I hear a clang. I think I'm having too much beef. Sounds like an anchor rattling. Eventually drags me to a stop.

[John Gabrus]

Well, sometimes it's the teeth, right?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, passing my vestigial twin again. Again. Stop eating them.

[John Gabrus]

I can't.

[Adam Pally]

I ate him in the womb. I'm gonna do it again.

[Jillian Bell]

Oh my God.

[Adam Pally]

What the am I talking about?

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[Jillian Bell]

Honestly, I was fine, like, three months ago. I was, like, doing well.

[John Gabrus]

What happened?

[Jillian Bell]

I had to have a fibroid removed from my uterus because I was like, oh, we're gonna start to have kids. Me and. Me and my guy.

[John Gabrus]

Congrats.

[Jillian Bell]

Thank you. And then once I. They were prepping for the procedure, they put me on birth control. It was the first time I've ever been on it at 40.

[John Gabrus]

And it does kind of.

[Jillian Bell]

And it fucked me up. And then the second they were done with that, they put me on the highest dose of estrogen to heal my lining, and it continued to mess me up.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

So you're, like, speculating.

[Jillian Bell]

So I spent three months with my mind crazy because they just are like, here's the dose. Take it, lady. And you're like, every woman is different. And I think it's terrible that we don't talk about this and that women are suffering so much because they just have, like, here's the three options, and then they throw them at you. And it has changed my whole life.

[Adam Pally]

IVF you up too. Like, it's so crazy. Like, everyone I know who's. Who's done that is just like. Like, and. And it seems like even, like, that industry, which you would think would be a little, like, female. Female friendly or woman forward, they're just.

[Jillian Bell]

Like, not at all.

[Adam Pally]

Right, Shoot this up. Shoot this up. We'll mail you more. You shoot it up. And then, like, the women are like, I'm going ape. Yeah. I feel crazy.

[Jillian Bell]

The second I was done, my. My doctor was like, okay, go have a kid.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Jillian Bell]

Like, I'm mentally unwell right now. You've made me crazy.

[John Gabrus]

Well, then you're just like every mother.

[Jillian Bell]

In America ready to have a child.

[John Gabrus]

Ready to have a child.

[Adam Pally]

Well, that's okay. You just pass it on to that kid.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. Don't worry. They'll take your trauma. But, like, I also think Perry. Perry. Menopause is something that's not talked about and is also also a hormonal roller coaster that, like, can you up. If men went through perimenopause, there would.

[Jillian Bell]

Be, like, so much research and medicine and the right dosage of everything for you to be able to get through. Because women are, like, 40s. You're. They're just like, good luck.

[John Gabrus]

It feels.

[Adam Pally]

Here's what we have. We actually don't have any research on women over 40. We know. We stop thinking.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

We're like, 39.

[Jillian Bell]

When their faces start sticking, we don't care.

[John Gabrus]

Like, over 40. You're supposed to get A new one.

[Adam Pally]

It's like, at least every four years. You don't want to do 10,000 miles.

[John Gabrus]

Johnny Wahlberg ain't never been with a lady over 35. Right, Joey? That's wicked. Correct, sir. We're hanging tough.

[Jillian Bell]

It's so cool that Nuke is on the block. Could be here for this interview for the listeners.

[Adam Pally]

They all here. They came with Jillian. They carried her in on some kind of pagoda. And then.

[John Gabrus]

Hello, everybody.

[Jillian Bell]

I'm Danny.

[John Gabrus]

Hello, hello, hello. O e. Oh, my God. Come to think of it, their choreography was not that great.

[Jillian Bell]

It was like, look back, look back. I'm actually going to show you a video of Jordan Knight performing. Oh, oh, Jordan Knight.

[John Gabrus]

You got protected of Jordan Knight's one song.

[Adam Pally]

Gonna talk about. Wait.

[Jillian Bell]

I was listening to that the other day, and actually, it's, like, a thing to do. This is how much I'm working on my wellness right now. This is so funny that this came up. I was like, I'm gonna learn the dance from that.

[John Gabrus]

From that single.

[Jillian Bell]

Yes, I'm gonna learn the dance where he. He's like, baby, you know, I could give it to you, but it's like, they're at a fair, and it's a fun dance break, and I want to learn it.

[John Gabrus]

It came out, like, after that.

[Jillian Bell]

That's how much I'm working on my wellness is. I want to watch a 1999 and.

[John Gabrus]

You know, like, those videos. When you. When you go back and watch those.

[Adam Pally]

Videos, I'm on anti an and I'm learning choreography. It's like, oh, well, hey, good Viaco.

[Jillian Bell]

By the way, to be fair to myself, because I'm just making myself to be a crazy person. No, I'm writing four different projects right now.

[John Gabrus]

No, you don't have to.

[Jillian Bell]

I.

[John Gabrus]

You don't have to.

[Jillian Bell]

No, I'm saying I shouldn't. No, I'm not saying that as a brag. I'm saying, like, my brain works in weird ways where, like, I can be.

[John Gabrus]

Creative, but that is the artist that is.

[Jillian Bell]

But then the other side of me is learning Jordan Knights.

[Adam Pally]

Yes, but that's just good for you.

[John Gabrus]

That.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, you guys have hobbies, and that's a real thing, I think, like, especially because we've monetized all our hobbies. Like, me and Adam love talking about wellness. Now we're. I love doing comedy. Now I'm begging for people to pay me to do it. Like, all these hobbies eventually become jobs.

[Jillian Bell]

And then you're like, I know. But then you're like, I need my.

[Adam Pally]

New hobby, nights, choreography.

[Jillian Bell]

I had a guy make me feel like shit because he was like, what hobbies do you have? And I was like, I like being in the pool and tarot cards. And they were like. He goes, yeah, but do you enjoy skiing? Do you run? Do you like climbing mountains? Do you enjoy. And I was like, what? No, no.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Jillian Bell]

No, no, no.

[John Gabrus]

Who are you talking to? Ethan Hunt?

[Adam Pally]

I. Yeah, I. I'm trying to learn Spanish for, like, the same reason of, like, something that isn't work related. Related. Something that I think would be good for my brain as I get older. And so that's like, what I've been doing with my time.

[Jillian Bell]

A little bit of the Our Father. Because I grew up Catholic.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. No, I felt my skin crawl.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Jillian Bell]

You're like, what's happening?

[John Gabrus]

I was like, what? What?

[Jillian Bell]

What's happening?

[John Gabrus]

Oh, and then I realized, oh, there's a Catholic in the room.

[Adam Pally]

Another one. Hey, where. If you're. If you're Catholic, you're last. Trust me.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah. No, if you're not.

[Adam Pally]

Else. You are not sitting in a com.

[Jillian Bell]

You're Mark Wahlberg.

[Adam Pally]

You have ash on your forehead or your.

[Jillian Bell]

He has an altar in his house. Correct.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, he's got an app.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, we're. By the way, we should say thank you to Hallow for use promo code staying alive to get three free prayers.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Big ups.

[John Gabrus]

The Hallow app. It's a wicked cool app. It's. It lets you stay prayed up no matter where you are in the world.

[Adam Pally]

You can stay prayed up. You can wear municipal hat. Your municipal.

[John Gabrus]

It lets you get municipality municipal products anywhere you go, no matter where you are. Nevada. No matter where you are. You can always get yourself prayed up. And that is difficult for a lot of people. Wait.

[Adam Pally]

Say hello to Jesus for me.

[John Gabrus]

Say hello to Jesus.

[Jillian Bell]

Good impression.

[John Gabrus]

Wow. I'm also opening a series of gyms that double as churches where you can work.

[Adam Pally]

You've done both Wahlburgers on both Wallburgers.

[John Gabrus]

Wait till I get the third one. The third one. A little deeper. You got to flip it. Flip that burger. Wait, I'm going to do all three talking to each other.

[Jillian Bell]

Go ahead, go.

[John Gabrus]

Hey, everybody. I'm thinking about having a family trip where we all. Everybody gets on my private jet and we go down to the Galapagos. Okay, I can't do that. I'm filming my Blue Blood spin off.

[Adam Pally]

I can find the time.

[Jillian Bell]

Your impression of it is just. I could find the time for the burger guy.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I'm available.

[John Gabrus]

He's the Least that he's a veil off.

[Adam Pally]

I just got to check if I.

[John Gabrus]

Can get off from the burger.

[Jillian Bell]

Dottie Wahlberg is just, like, six cents.

[Adam Pally]

I'm the weird guy for the.

[John Gabrus]

My dad. Here we go. I'm going to have to list all my fucking wicked credits. Here we go. Six cents. Blue Bloods.

[Jillian Bell]

No, there's more. Dead silence.

[Adam Pally]

Wow, That's. What a lot. That's the main review of this podcast.

[Jillian Bell]

Just this episode. They were like, don't have a sick woman.

[Adam Pally]

The apologize.

[John Gabrus]

I love that.

[Adam Pally]

The only way, like, I can't dance. The only thing about me is the way I learned to dance.

[Jillian Bell]

I just love imagining that your next guest is Gwyneth Paltrow, and she has real tips for people to, like, live to 110. And I'm like, this. I'm learning the hula hoop while I'm taking lepro.

[Adam Pally]

I lay in the yard face down, one hour a day.

[John Gabrus]

I was gonna say you're. You're one of our most, like, I think you're one of our most together guests.

[Jillian Bell]

Really?

[John Gabrus]

Yes. Because a lot of times when we pose the question of, like, you know, what are you doing to stay alive? They will like, throw so much at you that you're like, we're not doing well, huh? You know, like, you can tell. You feel like you're like, I'm actually. I'm working right in the moment present, and I'm. And I'm going through it, and it's like, I'm going through it and feels way more earnest.

[Jillian Bell]

Being aware of it and being honest about it is actually helping because I'm just like, too. If I'm listening to this podcast. Podcast, I'm sure it's because you're like, I want tips, like, and I want to have a good time. Like, I want to laugh.

[Adam Pally]

We try not to be prescriptive because.

[John Gabrus]

Like, we don't do any of this stuff. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I don't need, like, a lawsuit of, like, I tried learning the Jordan Knight choreography, and I'm still suicidal. Like, sorry, yeah, we can't.

[John Gabrus]

But I.

[Jillian Bell]

But I truly do think, like, I'm like, it helps me when someone else is like, I'm in it.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm in it right now.

[Jillian Bell]

You are?

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, I can't even talk about it. I'm like, I'm so in it.

[Jillian Bell]

Really?

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. It. My. So the. The. My. I just turned the age that my grandfather was when he died of a heart attack.

[Jillian Bell]

Oh, honey.

[John Gabrus]

And I. My mother died, like, very, very young. And so I feel, you know.

[Jillian Bell]

You feel.

[John Gabrus]

Approaching the borrowed time. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. Like, I don't feel like. I feel good and healthy and gone to the doc, you know? Like, I feel good.

[Adam Pally]

You can get a movie greenlit.

[John Gabrus]

I got a movie. I can get a movie green lit whenever I want, so.

[Adam Pally]

OB.

[John Gabrus]

Anyone here?

[Adam Pally]

Movie posters.

[John Gabrus]

I'm here for fun.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

When I walked on the amc, I'm like, this guy's got so many movies. Greenway.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, Take a left on, like, after you get off Crescent Heights on Sunset. You'll see me every.

[Jillian Bell]

Everywhere. All the billboards.

[John Gabrus]

No, I. Yeah, I feel like. And I'm having a lot of obsession of. About death. Like. Yeah, A lot of my thoughts are like, how many summers do I have left? How many times will I eat at this restaurant again? Like, is this the last time I'll be here? You know, like. And.

[Adam Pally]

And you're like, slightly forgive me for chiming in here, but you're, like, lightly predisposed to that already. Like, that's always been a kind of thing.

[John Gabrus]

Depressed.

[Adam Pally]

But then now. But now with, you know, the age we're at and what we're going through, it's like, it's getting a little. Yeah, it's going from the back part of the cbt.

[John Gabrus]

What's that?

[Jillian Bell]

Cognitive behavioral therapy.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, I thought it was ball torture. Have you done.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Jillian Bell]

You have a cock and balls, right?

[John Gabrus]

I torture.

[Jillian Bell]

Oh, then why don't you torture?

[John Gabrus]

No, I'm tortured.

[Jillian Bell]

Okay.

[John Gabrus]

Okay.

[Adam Pally]

Unfortunately, they torture me.

[Jillian Bell]

Cognitive behavioral therapy is another thing. I just started, and that might help you a lot.

[John Gabrus]

Explain that. What is. What's going on?

[Jillian Bell]

Okay, so they basically have you do homework. So.

[Adam Pally]

So.

[Jillian Bell]

No, I know.

[Adam Pally]

I like working myself, but not that hard.

[Jillian Bell]

They'll take a situation. So if you say, like, I wonder if this is the last time I'm going to eat at the Cheesecake Factory. Right.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, how do you know that that was the.

[Jillian Bell]

I don't know.

[Adam Pally]

I think about that every time I order the Philadelphia Cheesesteak egg rolls. This might be the last time I go down in Escort.

[Jillian Bell]

They're like, this is 5,000 calories for a bite.

[John Gabrus]

We actually made this in a factory.

[Jillian Bell]

This one is from a factory.

[Adam Pally]

This one.

[John Gabrus]

This one's from the factory.

[Jillian Bell]

This one's half shoe.

[John Gabrus]

Good.

[Jillian Bell]

So. So you write that down. And then you are like, okay, what are the facts that support that? Not feelings.

[John Gabrus]

Facts. Yeah.

[Jillian Bell]

Do you think maybe there's a chance you'll probably eat there again and Eating there again. Yes.

[John Gabrus]

And I feel like I do that really quickly mentally. Like, I, I, I do that. That's how I'm able to go through the day. I do it really quickly, you know, and I'm able to be, like, logical, magically put it away. But I'm noticing, and one of the things I'm working on is I'm noticing that it's taking up a lot of space.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And then you're going to the Cheesecake Factory twice a day now because you're like, how many times do I really have.

[John Gabrus]

Well, I got this.

[Adam Pally]

And keep shortening your. Keep shortening your life.

[John Gabrus]

My wife got me this gift certificate, and it expires in, like, 6:25. Yeah.

[Jillian Bell]

Well, the way you might be able to help that then is, like, noticing what is actually the fact and then making it a hardcore feeling, like being like, oh, okay. So right now I feel sad because, like, I felt like this is the last time I'm gonna eat at this restaurant. And it's probably not like. And the reality shows, I will probably end up a cheesecake factor.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Jillian Bell]

You know what I mean? And then you can, like, push it aside, like you're doing.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Jillian Bell]

But at least there's like, okay, here's the thing I go to every time it happens, and then it'll start happening.

[John Gabrus]

I think, I think that's probably a really beneficial thing, because what I've started to, like, try to take stock of on my own. And you never want to be, like, doing this work on your own. But, like, I'm trying to take stock of, like, what causes, like, what. When am I predisposed to these feelings the most? And usually they're after positive things. So I feel like what's going on is that I'm a little bit, like, beaten up from just life from being, you know, and so you know that there's a, like, every silver lining has a cloud.

[Jillian Bell]

And so, like, make your own shoe drop.

[John Gabrus]

Exactly. You're, like, waiting for it with everything. And then you're like, you know what?

[Jillian Bell]

But you're, like, controlling it. Like you're making your shoe drop.

[John Gabrus]

Yes.

[Jillian Bell]

So that it can be the shoe that dropped right after that. Positive.

[John Gabrus]

Right. Yeah. So that the. So that it's safe. It's like, yeah, you know, so how.

[Jillian Bell]

How, Like, I mean, don't you have moments where you're like, oh, that's like, like, that's so, like, it's not great that we're doing it, but, like, it's sweet. Like, it comes from a place of Being like, everything's too good. I, I, I just don't want something bad to happen, so I'll make the bad thing happen. Like, if you think of it as, like, a little kid.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Jillian Bell]

It's kind of, like, very sweet.

[John Gabrus]

It is, it is. I think it's sweet. I feel like it's, like, also shows that I do, I do care about myself, you know, in a way, in, In. In a way that a lot of people can't articulate.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

But. But it is also the challenge of every day, you know, Like, I feel like. And, and, and when I, When I hear people that are, that don't go through that, they. I'm. I'm often like, well, well, how are you, how are you not aware of, like, how are you not aware of the darkness and walking around in this, like, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like, we're. Like you said about driving. Like, how is that thought, the. That thought not in your mind all the time?

[Jillian Bell]

How, how is everyone able to do this? And I can. Like, I've directed this movie. I've been on big movies, but that terrifies me.

[John Gabrus]

Right.

[Jillian Bell]

And the thing I just keep coming back to is, like, we all have different skills. There's people who could lift a car. I can't do that. That doesn't make me a bad person.

[John Gabrus]

Right.

[Jillian Bell]

Like, depression, anxiety is a disability. It's something you just have to live with every day. And the struggle is like, some days you'll be like, wow, I went months without thinking about death. And then all of a sudden, sudden it's like two months of just. It's constantly in my head and will I ever get out of this? And the only thing that I have in my head all the time is like, especially during this time, because it's been so hard, is like, saying, the only proof that I have that this will not continue is that I've had long chunks of my life where I've not had it.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, Jillian, you're hitting on something. I call this zooming out. I have to, like, frequently zoom out and go on a whole, whole. The last six months of your life have been pretty good.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

You cannot be thinking like, this too shall pass. Whatever. You know, like, I have to zoom out and go like, hey, look at your life. You get into these pockets of depression all the time, and you get out of them when you're in it. It feels like you can never be. And you're like, just remember two weeks ago, this wasn't none of this Was on your. And I have to, like, zoom out and look at my life on a timeline or like. Or like a graph. And then when I imagine it on a graph. Graph, I'm like, oh, it's. This happens every August or every December.

[John Gabrus]

Do you think that there's any. Do you think that. Negative. I mean, it must be. I don't know, like, the. The. The chemistry of the brain and the way it works. But there must be something to the idea that negative thoughts are.

[Adam Pally]

Are.

[John Gabrus]

Like, a negative is worth 10 positives, you know, because, like, yeah, that's the.

[Adam Pally]

Weight we give them. At least. Just like, if you get 10 positive reviews and one person's like, I didn't laugh. You're like, remember you.

[John Gabrus]

Right. And so I feel like that that probably is going. That that equation is probably way deeper in everyday life.

[Adam Pally]

Yes.

[John Gabrus]

Where you're, you know, you're good. Things probably happen to us every day.

[Jillian Bell]

Yes.

[John Gabrus]

And we're noticing. Not even tuned in enough to notice, because we're occupied by the one thing of the 24 hours and the 365 days that is, like, sticking in our crawl.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. A way to. A way to help with that. This was something I working on with my therapist is to. To be. Remember to be grateful when things are good, even on the small scale. And he even says sometimes when something bad happens, if I say to myself, thank you for this opportunity.

[John Gabrus]

Right.

[Adam Pally]

Like when I like. Because I. Because I. I used to make the analogy. It's like I told my therapist, I'm like, you know, on some days, like, if I, like, spill my coffee in the morning, that's like a day where I'm like, thank God I don't have a gun in the house. Because I just be like, why? Can't believe I'm not cleaning this. Like, blow my. But he was like, you can also take that moment to go, hey, thank you for this opportunity to clean up the coffee. This is just something that happened. And I'm. And it's over now. And it's like something I never thought. And then if you do that with the positives, when the negative comes around. But you've already 10 times today. Like, that the barista smiled at me. That sandwich was fantastic. I got a great parking spot. You forget all of those the second someone goes like, sorry you didn't get the job. And then you're like, I told you I'm a fat pig. And you're like, wait, who said that? You know? And all of a sudden you're, like, spiraling out of control. And you're like, oh, 11 good things happened today, right?

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And that's all a matter of like.

[Jillian Bell]

One bad thing happened and that is the entire.

[Adam Pally]

I'm just laser focused on it. Microscope out. Like, let's analyze this forever.

[John Gabrus]

Not like, let it be part of my personality.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And then you'll have.

[Jillian Bell]

This is who I am.

[John Gabrus]

Is that one thing.

[Jillian Bell]

And it's crazy to me because I would never think either of you have any problems with depression or anxiety. I don't know what you have, but I think you mentioned depression.

[Adam Pally]

I have obesity.

[John Gabrus]

I have, I have.

[Jillian Bell]

Don't we all?

[John Gabrus]

I have depression and extreme adhd. Re diagnosed as an adult, like off the charts extreme. Like if I'm not can attest since I started taking medicine for it about like five, when we were doing the show like five years ago, if I, if I'm not on medication, like, it's like gets wild.

[Jillian Bell]

So you found a medication that works really well. Well, that's great.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. But it. But. But then also have in therapy and a psych psychopharmacologist and you know, all those things have to go along with it because I'm. I'm that kind of up. We're like, I need, you know, you can't. I can't just like, take a pill and like, go on with my day.

[Adam Pally]

And you should, you're right. You should always talk to someone.

[John Gabrus]

I think you need to. Because I, you know, I need way more help than that.

[Jillian Bell]

You know, I mean, creative people, we're all, all. We're all so sensitive and aware of the, like, it, it just.

[Adam Pally]

And on paper, my life is great, but when I start analyzing it, all of a sudden I'm like, well, I. This is all your fault.

[John Gabrus]

I think it's. I think it's natural also for our age too. Like.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

You know, Jillian's 25.

[Jillian Bell]

And you and I. I'm a hard 25.

[John Gabrus]

You're hard 25. Yeah.

[Jillian Bell]

You've lived the life rough, rough 24.

[John Gabrus]

And I'm a road hard 34.

[Adam Pally]

And I'm. I'm not that hard. And 43. Give me another couple of minutes.

[John Gabrus]

I swear to God it's.

[Jillian Bell]

Never wear those busty babes.

[Adam Pally]

Hold on, hold on. Change of music. I'm almost there.

[John Gabrus]

Why is the music a thing?

[Adam Pally]

I think there's menopause as well. Okay. Just. No.

[Jillian Bell]

Oh, no.

[John Gabrus]

But yeah.

[Jillian Bell]

Do you have the thing where you like, are like, oh, you were mentioning this of like, other people don't have this like, or all the time and everyone. All of us are. Are in the best way Cuckoo does.

[Adam Pally]

Where every time. I think part of the power of this podcast is we're just, like, having people who seem normal on and being like, actually, I'm dealing with a wild.

[Jillian Bell]

Here's what's going on right now.

[Adam Pally]

Like, Jillian Bell doesn't drive. Drive, dude.

[John Gabrus]

I mean, like, that's. I think that. Again, like, that's. I think that those are scars with age that, like, truly, you know, you. You, as you grow, these things become, like, would you have ever thought, oh, I won't drive anymore? You know, it's like. And then that just. That is just something that.

[Jillian Bell]

And I'm like, there it is. There's Ubers. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

You can live your life.

[Adam Pally]

There's also something very mature about, like, this gives me crippling anxiety. It's like, pull it out of your life.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And you're like, holy. I can remove extreme triggers from my life. Turns out, you don't have to be like, I absolutely hate doing this. Someone's like, well, why you do it? You're like, oh, right.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Could I not.

[Jillian Bell]

It's like white knuckling through your whole life.

[Adam Pally]

It's crazy to just remember sometimes that, like, you don't necessarily have to do this.

[Jillian Bell]

Well, and there's other people who will say, like, you're. You did it wrong. You should Just kept going. And part of me wishes I would have just because. But I was having a panic attack every time I. And I'm like, the thing I was scared about is, like, it's not just me being like, oh, if every time I swim, I have a panic attack, it's like, no, you could hit someone. You could, like, Right?

[John Gabrus]

And if that's. If that's enough for you.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Then that's enough. Like, I would never.

[Adam Pally]

I would, I think, as like, a driver, and you hear someone's like, I get a panic attack every time I drive. No, I won't drive anymore. That's a net positive.

[Jillian Bell]

For the highest.

[John Gabrus]

My wife will not mind me saying this. She stopped driving.

[Jillian Bell]

She did. Okay.

[John Gabrus]

How long she. On an accident?

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

With my son in the car about three years ago. And basically, like, turned in her license.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah. She's, like, done.

[Adam Pally]

Everybody was fine. Everybody was fine. But it was enough of, like.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, well, I mean, you get PTSD from. It was scary. It was like a truck veered into her on the FDR Drive, which is, like, so New arrow.

[Adam Pally]

Yes.

[John Gabrus]

And she got sandwiched between the.

[Adam Pally]

No, the guardrail.

[John Gabrus]

Guardrail. And the, you know, like the water's right there and Cole was in the back and like, I was in London shooting. It was just like, really terrifying.

[Jillian Bell]

Terrifying.

[John Gabrus]

And the car was totaled. And then it was like. And I didn't even put two and two together. It's like, I came home from the shoot, we got a new car. I just realized, like, wow, I'm really doing, like, pick up and drop off every day. Like.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

And then. And then it's like slowly I started to be like, wait a minute. Are you not driving? And then it became like, I just really.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

It really can't.

[Jillian Bell]

And she's still not driving.

[John Gabrus]

No.

[Jillian Bell]

Okay.

[John Gabrus]

But is similar to you. Like, really on top of her mental stuff and is like.

[Jillian Bell]

And then what does she do if you're out of town? Like, does she.

[John Gabrus]

We live in New York.

[Jillian Bell]

Oh, you live in New York. Oh, okay. Okay.

[John Gabrus]

So, like, we train and fantastic. We live.

[Jillian Bell]

Cause that's my question. Like, about, like having kids. And then I feel like I'm like, I have to figure out how to be driving everywhere. And I just.

[John Gabrus]

It's amazing in New York to have kids. Like, if you can afford it.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Which a few people. Like, we barely can. You. You having the subway system and the bus system be so good.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Which I'm sure it won't be a couple more years of this, like.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, we'll see. Well. Well, once Cuomo gets in and starts Italianing everybody.

[John Gabrus]

Actually, Cuomo will. Will help get it right back on track.

[Jillian Bell]

Oh, my gosh.

[John Gabrus]

But like, you know, the government, like, the federal government's not gonna fund anything. So, like the. But the subway, the public transportation system for parents.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Is amazing.

[Jillian Bell]

Great.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. And it totally. You can get anything. You Uber. You can get by.

[Jillian Bell]

That's great. Yeah. Okay, cool.

[John Gabrus]

So you don't have to book. Feel like you're the only one direct.

[Adam Pally]

A Marvel movie and hire a full time driver. Oh, God.

[John Gabrus]

You gotta be in the running.

[Jillian Bell]

You're just all calling me the Marvel Movies. And I'm like, are you people.

[Adam Pally]

Are you.

[Jillian Bell]

I'll do Bug Lady.

[Adam Pally]

Daredevil. Daredevil runs a marathon.

[John Gabrus]

He's blind.

[Adam Pally]

He has a helper.

[Jillian Bell]

He's going to do it. He's going to do it.

[John Gabrus]

Can you have a dog?

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And can I read for the dog?

[John Gabrus]

Are people. Are people, like, really knocking down your door now? Because you have this funny movie that debuted at south by Got.

[Adam Pally]

Really.

[Jillian Bell]

We just got back. Like, I've had a week off and.

[John Gabrus]

The response was great.

[Jillian Bell]

The response was so good. Which was so amazing because, you know.

[Adam Pally]

Tell us a little bit about how you got your first real six string and bought it at the five.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Played it to your fingers. Bled.

[Jillian Bell]

Well, I will say, like, hearing it with an audience was unbelievable because I've watched it with, like, four people at a time. So just getting there and being like, oh, they think it's funny. This is exciting. And they were there for, like, some of the twists and turns and on. On the roller coaster of it. So that was very exciting. But I did a movie. I did a small part in a movie called Murder Mystery 2, which was very funny because I got offered a different part. It was like, o, oh, you're gonna end up cutting that. Can I pitch a different thing? Oh, and they did. They did end up cutting it.

[John Gabrus]

Sandman.

[Jillian Bell]

They're so great.

[John Gabrus]

I love the Sandman.

[Jillian Bell]

I pitched this stupid idea because there was a big shootout in the Eiffel Tower, and it's like high tension. Everyone's guns are at each other. And then I said, what if the elevator opens? It's just me in a peacoat with a red rose being like, George. And I said, if we weren't married after 10 years, we would meet here at this moment, you know, and then, like, duck.

[John Gabrus]

And like, that's so funny.

[Jillian Bell]

And so they. They went with it, which was really nice. And the director is Jeremy Garlic. And I love Garlic. And he owns American High, which, like, bought a high school in Syracuse. And their production company is in there, and. And they shoot everything in Syracuse. And he had this script, and my agent was, like, really pushing for me to direct, and they were like, okay, so they sent it to me. It was really fun, but there was a lot in there that I was like, oh, I really want to make this kind of a coming of age story about two. Two different aged women, young women. And so the movie is. Is about a sexually inexperienced teenager who hires a stripper to land the guy of her dreams. She overhears what the guy of her dreams is, like, favorite sexual position is, and tries to go from 0 to 69 in a week. And it's really fun. It has like, a, like, sort of 80s feel to it. It. You know, because I love it. We used to. To love, like, big, broad ideas that. But then we're like, grounded with heart. So that's kind of the.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Jillian Bell]

I, like, miss. I grew up loving, like, John Hughes films, so that was sort of my.

[John Gabrus]

Well, I mean, comedy. I. I hope. I think it's going to be a big hit. And I hope it is because, like, I love movies like this.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

I like, I want. It's all I want to make. It's all I want to watch.

[Jillian Bell]

It's like, honestly, it makes me so happy watching this dang movie because it's so like, Chloe Feynman is in it and she kills it. She's so funny. And she's also like. I felt like when she was. You know, they do this a lot at snl where it's like, people will go out and start doing movies, but it's a lot of, like, characters with accents and crazy, you know, wigs and all the things. And I'm like, yeah, but she's probably like a great actor. And then we got her in this and she's like, you know, gets to have fun and plays around. But honestly, she's got a great arc in it and it's just. I just can't wait to see what she does next.

[Adam Pally]

I think, like, I mean, she's in Megalopolis, right? Yes. She is so good in that. And really? Yeah. And I was blown away. I mean, Aubrey is every. A lot of people are really good in this fucking crazy ass movie.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

But I was just like, wait, that's the lady, Chloe from snl.

[Jillian Bell]

She's fucking.

[Adam Pally]

She's very funny in this, in this movie. That's like Sky Captain.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. I mean, I love. Paul Pell is like the funniest pal.

[Jillian Bell]

We have Charlie Day, Nicole Byer. Oh, my God, she's so good. And Liza Koshy. We just have great people in it.

[John Gabrus]

You're going to get offers. Like, I feel like Gabriel was not kidding. Like, Marvel. Marvel. That's the trajectory. That's what happens.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, they'll just take you to Budapest for 15 months and like blow your career. But you'll make.

[Jillian Bell]

They're like, why is she sitting in the sun for a half hour every day?

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Jillian Bell]

No, it's honestly so funny because, like, it is my happy place now.

[Adam Pally]

She rides her bike 11 miles to set.

[John Gabrus]

Do you self medicate at all?

[Jillian Bell]

Self medicate?

[John Gabrus]

Drink?

[Jillian Bell]

Oh, no, no, I don't sober. I drink water. Everyone makes fun of me for my Starbucks order.

[Adam Pally]

Well, what do you mean?

[Jillian Bell]

What is your Starbucks order in a Venti ice water. And then maybe some kind of a, like a croissant or something.

[John Gabrus]

Do you Venti ice water Croissant. So you can get the water? Yeah, that's like how I go to the bathroom in there. I have a croissant and I run take a Of life.

[Jillian Bell]

Must have been that croissant.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, I think there's diuretics in here. I'm gonna write a letter. Bye.

[Adam Pally]

Bye.

[John Gabrus]

Don't no one go in there.

[Adam Pally]

The amount of times I've been to a. In a New York City bar during the daytime, and I'm like, oh, I'll have.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah, yeah, I'll.

[Adam Pally]

I'll take a Heineken. They're like, okay, great. And I run into the bathroom, take a huge come out. I'll go, how much was this? Pay for it. Chug the beer. And I need to get the fuck out of here. Like, blows up behind me like that.

[Jillian Bell]

What happened?

[John Gabrus]

You walk away from it like ordering.

[Adam Pally]

A drink and continuing to go to the bathroom. The birthday.

[Jillian Bell]

Exact, exact.

[D]

Exactly.

[Jillian Bell]

What's happening?

[Adam Pally]

I over tip, so no one ever fucking talk. Tells a story about it.

[John Gabrus]

When. When did you. You said your agent was trying to get you to direct, but, like, there must have been a moment in your career because you've been in so many funny movies, like, where you're like, I think I should do this.

[Jillian Bell]

I've always wanted to do it, but it's daunting. I mean, like you said, it's like, oh, how do you know if you're ready? And I didn't go to a five.

[Adam Pally]

I'm like, I like driving to, like, yeah, I'll learn how to build a car.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah, exactly, exactly.

[Adam Pally]

Slightly different skill set.

[Jillian Bell]

And you're around the car a lot when you're on set. Like, you're like, I don't know if I know where all the little gadgets go. But yeah, there was one other script that I thought, like, okay, this is gonna be the first one I direct. And you know how it is. You try everything. And then it's like, not right now. And then this one comes and I was like, my first film is going to be about 69. And then I was like, yeah, it is. It's going to be about that. And then female friendship. And. And I was like, oh, I can, I can.

[John Gabrus]

I know both those things.

[Jillian Bell]

I know both those things. Well, one more than the other.

[Adam Pally]

Female friendship.

[John Gabrus]

After all, I know them from up and down, left and right, both sides.

[Adam Pally]

Matter of fact, my search terms are female friendship and 69.

[John Gabrus]

Did you have to do this is just. Again, like, I apologize for being a.

[Jillian Bell]

CIS male, but no, no, never apologize for that.

[John Gabrus]

Chloe plays a stripper.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Did you like. Cause that's like a big wellness thing now. Did you, like, go to classes?

[Jillian Bell]

Did she like, she went to classes. She she met this amazing woman who was training her and then came out and was going to be or was her body double for some of the more intricate moves. But then, honestly, Chloe did so well that the majority of the dance is her.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, that's awesome.

[John Gabrus]

That's hard.

[Jillian Bell]

Really hard.

[Adam Pally]

Meyer is like a big pole dancer.

[Jillian Bell]

She's amazing. And there's some moves in there too from her. Yeah, we had to. I was like, we have these people that can do amazing things. We're gonna. And half of the women that are in the scenes are the people that actually. We worked at a club called Diamond Dolls. And we were like, that's what the strip club's gonna be called. Cause we loved it so much and we want give them a shout out. But the rest of the women that are in the scenes work there and they are their own family and community. And like, we'll be like, what do you want me to do now? And then like go upside down and clap their heels. And I'm like, this is the coolest. It's such a cool sport.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. Like Cirque du Solette.

[Jillian Bell]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

We're the only comedians to have their portraits up in Magic City Atlanta.

[Jillian Bell]

Really?

[John Gabrus]

Yes. We performed on that stage.

[Jillian Bell]

Oh my God.

[John Gabrus]

No, but it's, I, I, I only ask because I know how hard it like, yeah. The, the fact that that hobby, that, that interest could also be an exercise class is, makes me think that to do it you must be insane.

[Jillian Bell]

It ins. You have to have such of a body strength. I don't have any of that.

[Adam Pally]

I can't. I, I've like, in life just like grabbed a pole and leaned back and like, ah, you know. No less like inverted holding by my heels and like, I can't do a pull up. And these women can like pull themselves up by heels.

[John Gabrus]

I know.

[Jillian Bell]

It's insane. Like, they're holding on with just like the inner part of their thigh and then letting go. And you're like, squeeze.

[John Gabrus]

When they do that move where they go upside down and they put their hand back. But yes, they're, this is clipped onto the pole that it defies gra.

[Jillian Bell]

I'm like, how? That's my divine gravity.

[Adam Pally]

I'd like to see it. I'd like.

[Jillian Bell]

To.

[Adam Pally]

Jillian, thank you so much for coming on.

[John Gabrus]

It's so much fun and funny and.

[Jillian Bell]

I hope people laughed and had real moments, but more laughs than real moments.

[Adam Pally]

And by the time this comes out, maybe the movie is somewhere and we'll have links to it in the show notes and you can click on that and watch it wherever it may.

[Jillian Bell]

The movie is coming out May 9th and it's gonna be on Hulu. Five nine for six. Nine. That's the way to remember it.

[John Gabrus]

Five nine for six. Nine.

[Adam Pally]

Hell yeah.

[John Gabrus]

I like that. I like that it's not on height.

[Adam Pally]

Request for your 69ing partner. No, cuz I watch six two for six. Nine.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, I was going to say five. Five, nine.

[Adam Pally]

So our Jenny's line up a little better as a tall guy. I can't.

[Jillian Bell]

You know our Jenny's. I've never heard genitals called Jenny's.

[John Gabrus]

That's how they name the ice cream shop.

[Jillian Bell]

You too. That moment at the end, that was cute as a button. I want it on a T shirt. Jenny's sponsored by Jenny's. Try the scrambleberry.

[Adam Pally]

Jenny's with a G are your genitals.

[John Gabrus]

And Jenny's with a true cream flavor. Thanks, Jillian.

[Jillian Bell]

I love you both. Thanks for having me.

[Adam Pally]

Pleasure.

[John Gabrus]

Jillian Bell is so good.

[Adam Pally]

Absolutely hilarious person who is wildly forthcoming about what they're going through in life.

[John Gabrus]

She also. The first time I ever saw her was. It was so funny. I or I had just moved to LA and they were trying to get the UCB LA like up and running and they were starting mod teams and they didn't have enough faculty out here to. To watch auditions because it was just like Seth Morris was out here and that was it. And Neil Campbell. And so they asked me and a couple people who had just moved to come and like watch auditions and she was the first audition and she did Drew Barrymore. That made me cry. She was sad, you know, and it was like one of those where you're like, I can't believe I'm laughing at this. And I feel like she's the perfect. She really is a perfect comedic actor.

[Adam Pally]

I mean I of course, like probably most of America found her through workaholics and she was just so fudgeing good on every single episode of that show. So awesome.

[John Gabrus]

She's like maybe one of my favorite people to watch. Which is amazing that she. To hear that she has anxiety over doing it, you know, because you're just like, everything you say is funny. How. How does that ye.

[Adam Pally]

And that's so true for so many people. Like your favorite comedians are going through so much crazy shit.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Well, thank you again, Jillian. Check out her film summer of 69. You know, get your first real six string. Bought it at the five. That song is like burned into my head. I fucking love it.

[John Gabrus]

We're thinking about different things. When we hear the title of the movie.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I'm thinking about Bryan Adams. Well, I'm thinking. To be fair, I'm thinking about Bryan Adams having our dicks in each other's mouths. So. So far, so good.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

That's the name of the album.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. I quit. I quit.

[Adam Pally]

You have been listening to Staying Alive with John Gabris and Adam Pali, a Smartless media production in association with Sirius xm.

[John Gabrus]

Produced by Devin Tory Bryant and Anne Harris. Engineered and edited by Devin Tory Bryant, who also wrote the music, Associate producer.

[Adam Pally]

And video producer is Matty McCann. Social media producer Tommy Galgano.

[John Gabrus]

Assistant engineer Kyle McGraw. Special thanks to Jared O' Connell at SiriusXM.

[Adam Pally]

Executive producers are John Gabris. Ooh me. Adam Pally. Ooh, you. Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Richard Corson and Bernie Kaminsky. Do us a favor. Just rate and review the podcast. It actually helps.

[John Gabrus]

Just so everyone knows, we do not have a discord.

[Adam Pally]

Don't reach out to us.

[John Gabrus]

See us on the street. Walk the other way or you'll catch hands.

[Jillian Bell]

I'm sorry, I got too real on stuff. But I also think it's good. That's no offense to maybe say in case somebody's listening.

[Adam Pally]

We're trying. We're trying to walk the line between very real and doing dumb bits. Yeah, like so, like.

[John Gabrus]

Smart.

[Adam Pally]

Bless me.

[D]

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