Chunks & Hunks (w/ Mike Mitchell)

Summary

Staying Alive with Jon Gabrus & Adam Pally: Episode Summary – "Chunks & Hunks (w/ Mike Mitchell)"

In this engaging episode of Staying Alive, hosts Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally welcome Mike Mitchell, co-host of "The Doughboys" podcast and star of "Twisted Metal." The trio delves deep into personal health journeys, focusing on weight management, the challenges of long Covid, and the use of modern medications to improve well-being. The conversation is a blend of heartfelt honesty and the signature humor that fans have come to love.

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1. Reconnecting with Friends and Shared Experiences (00:00 - 07:12)

Jon and Adam kick off the episode with their typical banter, discussing humorous encounters in corporate settings. Their lighthearted conversation sets a relaxed tone, paving the way for Mike Mitchell's introduction. Mike shares anecdotes about reconnecting with friends after extended periods apart, emphasizing the importance of these relationships in maintaining mental health.

• Notable Quote:

  Adam Pally [00:27]: "Every time I walk into a corporate building like this, I get the feeling from the people working there… they're like, you pull up, are you parking there?… all right, fine… they're like, f’ing idiot."

2. Psychedelic Experiences and Mental Health (07:12 - 22:00)

The discussion shifts to the use of psilocybin (mushroom chocolates) as a recreational and therapeutic tool. Adam and Mike recount their experiences at a hotel rooftop pool, where the mushrooms led to prolonged laughter and deep, personal conversations. They highlight how these substances can facilitate meaningful connections and introspection.

• Notable Quote:

  Mike Mitchell [02:34]: "We did a big… more like a Medi Pro… Mac and cheese."

3. Navigating Long Covid and Its Impact (22:00 - 40:00)

Jon opens up about his struggle with long Covid, detailing debilitating symptoms such as intense brain fog, vertigo, and severe anxiety. He shares his journey through multiple medical consultations, exploring various treatments, and ultimately deciding to use GLP1 medications like Zepbound to manage his weight and overall health. The conversation underscores the challenges of dealing with a condition that is often misunderstood or dismissed by others.

• Notable Quote:

  John Gabris [10:20]: "...long Covid is the scariest thing in my entire life...no one thinks it's real."

• Additional Quote:

  Adam Pally [13:24]: "I'm coming over to the Zepp."

4. The Role of Modern Medications in Weight Management (40:00 - 55:00)

The hosts delve into the specifics of using GLP1 medications such as Zepbound and Mounjaro. They discuss the benefits, including significant weight loss and improved mental clarity, alongside the side effects like nausea and the logistical challenges of self-injection. Jon emphasizes the necessity of affordability for these medications, advocating for broader access to enhance public health.

• Notable Quote:

  John Gabris [30:01]: "Zepbound should be affordable for everyone in the world."

• Another Quote:

  Adam Pally [36:53]: "Sometimes you're nauseous. It's like walking around with a slight bug."

5. Frustrations with Healthcare Systems and Doctor Interactions (55:00 - 75:00)

Jon and Adam express their frustrations with healthcare professionals who focus solely on weight as the root of health issues, often disregarding other underlying conditions. They advocate for empathetic and communicative doctors who treat patients holistically rather than reducing them to mere numbers on a scale. This section highlights the systemic challenges individuals face when seeking comprehensive healthcare.

• Notable Quote:

  Adam Pally [27:23]: "You want me to take this Zepp out?"

6. Personal Journeys and Social Perceptions of Body Image (75:00 - 85:00)

The conversation shifts to the societal perceptions of body image and the personal journeys of the hosts in managing their weight. They share candid reflections on how weight loss has impacted their self-esteem, health, and interactions with others. Jon discusses the emotional weight of losing weight, while Adam and Mike offer humorous takes on their own body transformations and the reactions from friends and colleagues.

• Notable Quote:

  Adam Pally [57:20]: "I don't think of either of you as a big guy. I think of you as a funny guy."

• Another Quote:

  John Gabris [67:46]: "It's crazy to be in 2025. You don't need to be a doctor to agree that everyone's body is different."

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7. Concluding Insights and Encouragement (85:00 - End)

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the importance of open conversations about health challenges. They emphasize the value of supportive friendships and the positive impact of sharing personal struggles to foster a community of understanding and encouragement. Jon shares his commitment to continuing his health journey, inspired by the progress he's made and the support from his friends.

• Notable Quote:

  John Gabris [69:05]: "A person who gains and this just shows that like some people have crazy metabolisms and can do that and go up in weight and come right back down."

• Final Encouragement:

  Jon Gabris [70:23]: "Thank you for having us."

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Key Takeaways:

• Personal Health Journeys: The episode underscores the importance of personal accountability and proactive measures in managing health, especially when dealing with complex conditions like long Covid.

• Role of Medications: GLP1 medications like Zepbound and Mounjaro are highlighted as effective tools for weight management and improving overall health, despite their side effects and costs.

• Healthcare System Challenges: The hosts advocate for more empathetic and comprehensive healthcare approaches that consider the whole person rather than focusing narrowly on weight.

• Social and Emotional Impact: Weight loss and health improvements significantly impact self-esteem, relationships, and daily life, with societal perceptions playing a crucial role.

• Community and Support: Open discussions about health struggles can foster a supportive community, encouraging others to share and seek help.

This episode of Staying Alive offers a blend of humor, vulnerability, and practical insights, making it a valuable listen for anyone navigating similar health challenges or interested in the nuanced discussions surrounding modern wellness practices.

Transcript

[John Gabris]

Smart.

[Adam Pally]

Bless me. Every time I walk into a corporate building like this, I get the feeling from the. From the people working there. Like, when you're waiting, when you're driving, looking for a parking spot and you see someone in their driver's seat, and you pull up and you're like, are you parking there? And they have such glee to tell you that they're not moving.

[John Gabris]

Yes. Yes.

[Adam Pally]

You know what I mean?

[Mike Mitchell]

They're like, nice try.

[Adam Pally]

Yes. They're like, you pull up, you're like, are you movie.

[Mike Mitchell]

Like, n, n, n, n, n, n, n, n, N, N, n, n, n.

[Adam Pally]

And you're like, all right, all right, fine. And then even as you're leaving, they're like, fucking idiot.

[John Gabris]

Making it a movie.

[Adam Pally]

Like, you're in the driver's seat. Like, that is the feeling I had downstairs when I was like, I'm going to a podcast. They're like, I don't know what that is.

[Mike Mitchell]

I was on the other end of that at Century City. A guy pulled. Guy was behind me, and he's like, I'm sitting in. In. And he honks, and I, like, look out the window and I have, like, a lit joint. I'm like, I'm going to see Mission Impossible, dude.

[Adam Pally]

How you doing, buddy?

[Mike Mitchell]

Well, I'm doing much better after our Sunday together. That was what we call medicine in.

[Adam Pally]

This industry to me, truly. We hadn't hung out in probably two months. A month.

[Mike Mitchell]

A month. You know what it is? It's so crazy because the listeners. It's like six days. But to us, honestly, it was only three weeks. But it's like the longest we've gone in a.

[John Gabris]

And we were. We don't.

[Adam Pally]

We. We talk a lot, but we don't have. Because of. Because we're attached with business, but we don't have that. We're dudes. We're not like, yeah, we'll FaceTime every.

[Mike Mitchell]

Once in a while, catch up with the kids or whatever.

[Adam Pally]

But it's not like we don't. We don't, like, check in.

[Mike Mitchell]

Like, we know we're going to see each other. Currently, we know we're going to see each other. So when we see each other, it's like, here comes the full download.

[Adam Pally]

Download. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. And it turns out in your 40s, if you go a and a half without seeing a buddy, a lot of shit came out.

[Adam Pally]

There's a lot going on. Yeah. It's also very. It's also really conducive when one of your buddies is staying at a hotel with a pool for Work and has the total day off.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. And your other buddy is a childless 40 year old with access to mushroom chocolates.

[Adam Pally]

To mushroom chocolates. Which were so great and so funny.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. So the listeners. I went over to Adams Hotel rooftop pool. There was a few people hanging around. We did some in between a micro and Mac macro dose of mushrooms.

[John Gabris]

We did a big.

[Adam Pally]

It was more like a Medi Pro. It was like a Mac and cheese.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. I mean, I was. And then we started ordering drinks and next thing you know, we're the only people. It's like gray out and we're the only people in the pool for like three and a half hours and just people slowly trickle out. We are hysterical, laughing, doing, Catching up about hyper personal shit at a volume that is not audible.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

First and last name.

[Adam Pally]

I feel bad for any director I've ever worked with if they walked by.

[Mike Mitchell]

That conversation straight up saying full names of people.

[Adam Pally]

But man, was it great to catch up and so fun. And again, like, we haven't really dug into the like official medicated psilocybin side of things yet. But I'm dying to because recreationally they're great.

[Mike Mitchell]

Every other thing I consume, whether it's food, alcohol, weed, always makes me feel a little worse the next day.

[Adam Pally]

Except that.

[Mike Mitchell]

Except mushrooms. And I feel better for like two more days after.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. And I'm not even in like, you know, I don't know if it's because I don't do it that much. So it's like the amount that it. When it comes my way, it is like a revelation every time. I'm like, wow, this is amazing. And I feel good for like a week. Or if that would. If that would catch up to me.

[Mike Mitchell]

And then like a law of diminishing returns.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. I feel like that may be the case as well.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think we had this exact conversation in the pool where I said, what is the most amount I could do without like losing its efficacy? Because I would just like. If you told me every four days you can do a macro dose and it's always gonna feel good. I would be doing it every 3.9 hours.

[Adam Pally]

But I would be good at that.

[Mike Mitchell]

My phone would be like, ding. I'm like, sorry.

[Adam Pally]

I know that I would be good about it. Cause that's the way I think about pizza. And I feel like.

[Mike Mitchell]

I think it's been about 10 days since I took a pie to the dome.

[Adam Pally]

And like, it's like, I deserve this pie to the dome. Which we also did. Which is something we talked about, which Is we then walked from my hotel to the nearest sugarfish and went absolutely bananas. Absolutely banana.

[Mike Mitchell]

You went head to head with Manjaro that evening?

[Adam Pally]

Oh, yeah. Me and I skipped my shot.

[Mike Mitchell]

We ate so much sushi.

[Adam Pally]

Well, actually, I am between shots right now. You're catching me at a time.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, so you're alone.

[Adam Pally]

I'm between. Well, I didn't. I think that it's like, anti. This is my experience from it, and everybody will have their own. I feel like it's a little bit like antidepressants, where it's. You have to find the right one that mixes with your body type and the other things that you're on.

[Mike Mitchell]

Right.

[Adam Pally]

And mounjaro I'm not. Again, like, I'm just like.

[Mike Mitchell]

This is specific to you. Not medical. Not medical.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Bringing it down. Mounjaro's a little intense for me.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And I'm not trying.

[Mike Mitchell]

You're trying to be a little depressed.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I'm not trying to feel a little feel. I'm not trying. I don't trying, and I don't medically need to, like, cut a ton of weight. I need it for the other benefits, like, to stop me from getting diabetes and having a stroke and dying.

[John Gabris]

Right.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. So it's like the. You have to find a nice balance where you don't feel bad, because sometimes there is a side effect of the drug where you can have some really tough days.

[Mike Mitchell]

Well, you know, that's interesting you say that, because I think our guest, who we're about to sit down and talk with, will have a lot to say about that as well. He's my first friend that went on the Zeppy.

[Adam Pally]

He's also mine, too. He was the one who officially told. He was my last friend that told me to go on it.

[Mike Mitchell]

He's been telling me to go on it since he started. And I don't know if that's one of those. I had a kid. You need to have a kid now. Or he knows it's beneficial. He does. He has lost. You know what? We'll let him talk about it.

[Adam Pally]

We'll let him talk about it. But I think it is also good just to, like, where are you on where are you? Cause I've also. I will also say that. And I'm not gonna name any names, but I've had a bunch of friends reach out to me, Hollywood friends who have said that they are also using this medication or different kinds of this medication, and it's working for them, and they are happy that someone's Saying that in a way that's not just about.

[Mike Mitchell]

Like, I got cum gutters now.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Which I don't. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

I gave up on. I mean, I have cum dripping down my stomach in any given moment.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't call it a gutter.

[Mike Mitchell]

It pools in my belly button.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. I wouldn't call it a gutter sinkhole.

[Mike Mitchell]

A kitty, a sump gum. Sump, gum, sump come sumpster. On that note, we should get to our guest from the Doughboys podcast and Twisted Metal. We got Mike Mitchell, Mikey, Mitch.

[John Gabris]

When did you get. Did you get in yesterday?

[Adam Pally]

No, I got in Sunday morning. Sunday we took mushrooms all day.

[John Gabris]

It was great. Did you really?

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, we went to school.

[John Gabris]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I knew you were out and about on. Wait, I thought you were out on Saturday.

[Mike Mitchell]

No, Saturday night I went out.

[Adam Pally]

By the time he got to me on Saturday, he was like, licking his wound.

[Mike Mitchell]

I got up at 12:30 and went to his place.

[Adam Pally]

I had already landed.

[John Gabris]

Oh, Jesus. I had already.

[Adam Pally]

Transcontinental flight.

[John Gabris]

Oh, my God. So wait, were you out the night before too? Because my friend thought she saw you Friday night. On Friday night.

[Mike Mitchell]

Well, that's when I went to the Chili's in Encino with some friends. Oh. So definitely your friend saw a different. It was, you know, it was Pride Eve. So it was some chunky little bear running around in short shorts that everyone thought everyone.

[Adam Pally]

This month, everyone thinks they see gay birthday.

[Mike Mitchell]

And if you see me at a gay bar, you didn't.

[John Gabris]

A tw.

[Mike Mitchell]

I wish. Maybe if I get on Led Zepp Bound like everyone else.

[Adam Pally]

All right, Mitch, we have to ask you, because we do it for everybody. What are you doing to stay alive? And you can start with a thing that we've already, like, talked about because.

[Mike Mitchell]

We were starting talking about his journey on.

[Adam Pally]

Because I'm. Because, you know, we've talked about it. I'm on it.

[John Gabris]

I mean, Zepbound is the number one thing for me. Yeah. Zepbound is, is. Is.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's the number that gets at the top of the list of things that you think are helping you.

[John Gabris]

I think it is that. I think there's a lot of people that respond to it, like in a. I would say, anti vax sort of way. Of course. Yeah. Where they're like, you know, like, you gotta do it the old fashioned way or whatever. And I. I have done that.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's mostly like people who are like, you gotta do it the way I did.

[John Gabris]

Right. Yeah. People get mad at you for. Not people do get Mad at you for not losing weight the way they think is the right way, which is very frustrating. And who cares how you. Who cares?

[Mike Mitchell]

Here's what other people do in their personal lives, period.

[Adam Pally]

That's also 100% when someone's bitching about it. Like the way that old NB veterans talk about the new players making a lot of money.

[John Gabris]

Yes. Yeah. 100.

[Adam Pally]

We could all shoot threes. We'd all make.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's like, well.

[Adam Pally]

But the game was not a lot.

[John Gabris]

Of Boston dads, I've heard.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm a Knicks fan. So, you know, like, yeah, it's not.

[Adam Pally]

Going great at the Garden.

[John Gabris]

They just play differently. You're like, yeah, that's not really what you're upset about.

[Mike Mitchell]

Racist coded. These young players, they're so flashy with their outfits. I'm like, do you mean young players?

[Adam Pally]

But I like that one.

[Mike Mitchell]

What do you actually mean?

[Adam Pally]

I like that one that talks. Well, I like one that talks.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, there's so much like that. He actually seems very intelligent. You're like, you don't know, by the.

[Adam Pally]

Way, who seems intelligent? Jeremy Renner's accent.

[John Gabris]

You.

[Mike Mitchell]

You know who I really like as a ball player? Number 11 on the depth chart. The white guy. Okay.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

All right. Say less. Buddy McAffrey is your favorite wife.

[John Gabris]

That's all that I am. Like, I love Peyton Pritchard. I love everyone.

[Adam Pally]

And Boston fans are like, no, no, it's because he's good.

[John Gabris]

It's like, yeah, all right.

[Adam Pally]

When poor Z was there, it was like a literal, like, mountain of racism was just coming.

[John Gabris]

Now he's a long Covid, which is the other. My other. My other staying alive.

[Adam Pally]

You have long Covid.

[John Gabris]

I have. I have. I have. You know this.

[Adam Pally]

Yes, I have.

[John Gabris]

Long Covid.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And I. I have to say, it is the scariest thing in my entire life. And I. Terrifying. It's. It's. It's. It's horrible. And also the worst thing about it is no one thinks it's real.

[Mike Mitchell]

I mean, again, if you think Zepbound activates some anti vax energy, something that people don't even believe, the short Covid.

[John Gabris]

You gotta go on rogan2. I mean, you just gotta deliver blood.

[Mike Mitchell]

Samples to Rogan's basement in Austin.

[John Gabris]

I am supposed to.

[Mike Mitchell]

You fucking weird little pimple looking motherfucker.

[John Gabris]

Are you starting beef with Rogan?

[Mike Mitchell]

Would Glam do your show. Have Adam and I on your show.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, every episode I'm trying to get on Theo Vaughn.

[John Gabris]

I would. I met him very briefly before he Was like, you met him when you.

[Adam Pally]

Were on the Real World together.

[John Gabris]

I was in Road Rules. You met him. I was the guy always in the bathroom, in the. In the RV to bang up.

[Adam Pally]

Like your.

[Mike Mitchell]

Your little open credit sequence, it just says Mitch over the bathroom door. Never even see you on toilet.

[John Gabris]

Just always from the bathroom.

[Adam Pally]

I think if I had to make a vote, my. My vote would be to vote off Theo.

[Mike Mitchell]

Well, you saw. You also recently saw him. Cuz you were getting up from dinner with Jared and Ivanka and he was sitting down with them.

[Adam Pally]

You.

[Mike Mitchell]

They double up. They did a bang bang two, doing a mukbang.

[John Gabris]

It is very. I mean, a part of me, he was. He was a nice man when I. When I met him. I should. I should say that right off the bat, but a part of me is like, how much of it is, like, performative to be like, I don't know. I have everybody on the show. You know what I mean? Like. Like, I have everybody.

[Mike Mitchell]

I have Donald Trump.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

What I don't like is that by just by saying that, you. Can you equate, like, Candace Owens and John Mulaney?

[John Gabris]

Yeah, sure.

[Adam Pally]

You know what I mean? It's like, hey, I have everybody on this show.

[John Gabris]

My two favorite comedians.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. My two favorites. I love everybody equally. I love Donald Trump and John Mulaney.

[Mike Mitchell]

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[John Gabris]

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[Adam Pally]

I want to get into Long Covid, but I want to ask you specifically because of mine. My thing. I want to ask you about it. I'm in the. I'm switching from.

[John Gabris]

Oh, are you really?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. I've heard about the switch because I started on Moonjaro on the lowest. On the lowest dose.

[John Gabris]

Are you coming over to Zep?

[Adam Pally]

I'm coming over to the Zepp.

[John Gabris]

Okay. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Because the Mounjaro was intense.

[John Gabris]

Oh, is it really?

[Adam Pally]

There's a couple I've had two days in particular that have been like, horror days where you're like, really sick.

[John Gabris]

And it's.

[Adam Pally]

It's gross. It's like a gross sick.

[John Gabris]

There's, like, so much involved. I mean, we could just say if you're.

[Mike Mitchell]

You mean literal feces.

[John Gabris]

Literal feces. Whether it's. Whether it's.

[Adam Pally]

Whether it's not coming out or it's.

[John Gabris]

Coming out just too much. And that is like.

[Mike Mitchell]

I've never had it not come out in my entire.

[John Gabris]

I mean, I wonder how you will react.

[Mike Mitchell]

Because imagine it evens me out down. Right down the middle.

[Adam Pally]

Because I've. Because I. I'm too usually a wet stool dog.

[John Gabris]

So.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

I'm Little Rabbit.

[Mike Mitchell]

Oh, by the way, thank you.

[John Gabris]

Really.

[Mike Mitchell]

Coming on our podcast. It's called Stool Sports. I'm Dave. Toilet. No.

[Adam Pally]

And I'm Pig Cat.

[John Gabris]

I wish I knew a third bar reference.

[Mike Mitchell]

Good thing we don't.

[Adam Pally]

Good thing we don't.

[Mike Mitchell]

I, I, I. You're just kfc, Kentucky Fried Chicken. I like it's Deadliest Catch. My opens like a tuna net and like tuna and like a boot and a tire debris all just fall out.

[Adam Pally]

That was a horrible image. That was the worst.

[Mike Mitchell]

I pull my arm down and my ass opens up.

[John Gabris]

You're rifling through it. Something you can't flush down the toilet.

[Mike Mitchell]

This is gonna go in.

[Adam Pally]

I gotta call Peruvian farmers who are like.

[Mike Mitchell]

They haul their strainer. I gotta call special pickup for like 3.1One to come pick up the garbage. Can't even. I guess I can't get rid of batteries this way.

[John Gabris]

You will get the. That. You have to get rid of your. Your, Your needles. You have to get rid of your sharps. You have a sharps container, which, I mean, I. Were you. You were never diabetic, right?

[Mike Mitchell]

No, but I, I, My tiff is diabetic, so I was dealing with those needles all the time.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I got close. That was my scare.

[John Gabris]

Oh, me too. The last time I went, they said that I was so long Covid is a part of the reason I started to do it, basically.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, okay.

[John Gabris]

Because I had this experience where I told you this, but my doctor was. Everyone's like, I'm asking my doctor step on. And I was. And. And they're saying no. And two years in a row, my doctor's like, you should get on. He was like, you need to get on this.

[Mike Mitchell]

Every other fat people are like, the doctor's like, no way. Every time you go. He's like, you ready to do this?

[John Gabris]

I was like. And so, like, for two years, I. And I also. There was a part of me, this is like, the stubborn thing where you're like, I'm gonna do this on my own. And then, like, I'm never being successful. You know what I mean? Like, since I was. Since I was a boy, I was. I was thin for 10 years, basically, of my life. I was a little thin.

[Mike Mitchell]

This was like 82 to 92.

[John Gabris]

That's 100%.

[Adam Pally]

So this is from 0 to 10.

[Mike Mitchell]

When your dick looked even bigger than it does now?

[John Gabris]

Yes, yes. Maybe was. I don't know what's happened, dude.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's at least the same. I got a little more thickness in the last four years, but it's kind of exactly how it started.

[John Gabris]

I definitely saw more of it. From 82 to 92, I saw more of it.

[Mike Mitchell]

Your mom sees even more of it now.

[Adam Pally]

I think mine. I think that mine just moves in more like. Like, it will droop longer sometimes than I've ever had, but it will also go smaller when I'm driving. You know what I mean?

[John Gabris]

Yes.

[Mike Mitchell]

If I've been sitting at my desk for like an hour and then I get up to go pee, I'm like, I need a team to help me.

[Adam Pally]

But then sometimes. But then sometimes you're like, jesus Christ. Like, you're shitting. And you're like, is my dick touching the toilet water?

[John Gabris]

Like, I've never had that issue, but that is. I've had moments I feel my toilet.

[Adam Pally]

Water to the top my balls sometimes. Truthfully, my dicks never touched. My balls have hit it.

[Mike Mitchell]

I like to fill the water to the top so that there's no sweat.

[John Gabris]

You're, like, pushing the handle up to, like, just let more water in.

[Adam Pally]

Catch it. You're just shitting like a soft mitt.

[Mike Mitchell]

Your cheeks are in the water just letting the shit out.

[Adam Pally]

So this episode's never gonna air. This is pretty much we should just can this.

[Mike Mitchell]

Are we about to do our third episode that smartless as we can. We have a year long contract. We keep putting out these episodes that they go. I don't know how we're gonna put this out. Yeah. So you're dealing with long Covid.

[John Gabris]

Your.

[Mike Mitchell]

Your doctor wants to put you on Zepbound. And you think that Zepp is gonna. Is helping with some of the symptoms.

[John Gabris]

At least for me. I was like, I can't figure out what. What his.

[Adam Pally]

And what were your symptoms?

[John Gabris]

My symptoms were intense brain fog, which I used to get brain fog. But when it first happened, I was. I was texting with Gabriel. When it first happened, I got sick. I, Like, I got sick from a Friend and I. And I knew that they were sick. I'm so paranoid about getting sick. I hate getting sick. And I got sick and I was like, oh, whatever, I'm sick again. And I didn't really test if it was Covid that time. And it one and I.

[Mike Mitchell]

But you didn't like go to concerts or anything?

[John Gabris]

No, I stayed in. I stayed in for a full. This is like. This is about a year and a half ago or whatever.

[Adam Pally]

One of the holdouts. I. For talking to you for. Not for vax, but just for like not socializing. Like, I don't remember seeing you for a while.

[John Gabris]

I was always very. I was good with it. And then we. We, the Doughboys went on tour. Like I think it was exactly three years ago and it was the first time I like, like I. I was always wearing masks and stuff.

[Adam Pally]

We were already out on the road and I think you were still in Boston. You went back, right? Or something. I went to.

[John Gabris]

I went to Boston for a full over a year actually.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. And we were on the road, I think. What. So like I. Shooting a trap, shooting a trap, looking.

[Mike Mitchell]

Covid right in the eye, going, you know what? We're going to hit eight flights this morning. Truly 25 bars. Eight flights.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

You're so lucky you didn't. It's. It's. Oh, we got it all. I'm saying. You're still heated. Get long, Covid. Because it's 1 in 10 people get. It basically is what they say. And it still is possible to get. I like, it is a thing where people should just be masking on plants still, no matter what. Like, and. And the issue is that people get sick and they're. And they just go out and do whatever. And I've never. I've always hated that. Like if I have a cold or a flu or whatever, I stay inside. You know, there's like a new. You got to work. You're like, you don't. You don't have to do that. Like. Yeah, I know some people actually literally do have to do that. I'm not saying that you. But like a lot of people that are like, I gotta go to work. A lot of those people don't have to do it.

[Adam Pally]

Right?

[John Gabris]

And they like could work from home or whatever. There are some people. There are working class people that 100% have to go to work. And it is that sort of thing of like we don't mask. We don't do a good job with it. And I, I know that this sounds like 5 years ago or Whatever.

[Mike Mitchell]

But no, I. I think it's pos. It's very current now, and I feel like we're going to be in this kind of dialogue for the next. Well, now eight years and I'm alive.

[Adam Pally]

Bird flu. You're gonna have to be out at 51. You're gonna have to start masking your dogs and stuff, like bird flu there. I just saw a clip today that, that some doctor was like, well, you can. Bird flu is so scary because you can literally get it from an animal.

[John Gabris]

Oh, yeah, it's so scary. I mean, Mike, there's, like, raw food for cats, like, with. And there's been cats that have gotten bird flu from, like, turkey or whatever or bird. Just because it's on.

[Mike Mitchell]

Just from eating poultry?

[John Gabris]

Yeah, just from eating poultry. And I'm like, I'll never. Whatever. I'll give my cats nine lives, which is cooked or whatever. But. But the long Covid thing is I. I got sick. And then the next week, you were.

[Mike Mitchell]

Having, like, more brain fog than you know. I.

[John Gabris]

It was so bad.

[Mike Mitchell]

Adam is my. Adam is my creative partner. I'm familiar with brain fog.

[Adam Pally]

And what does that mean to you, brain fog? Because to me, a lot of those symptoms are just how I get through life.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. So for me, brain fog is like when you feel like you're in a dream state or it's, like, kind of muddy or cloudy thinking. And then I had always had days like that where it would pop up. And then it got so bad where. Where, like, I can't, like, read texts. You know what I mean? Like, it's also so affected my vision.

[Mike Mitchell]

It was peaking. Your anxiety?

[John Gabris]

It was pinging my anxiety. So when I first got it, I had vertigo. Like, I. So I got sick, and then I woke up, and I was like, I'm, like, dizzy. I can't stand up. What's going on?

[Adam Pally]

Did you get, like, a weird scan of, like, water on the brain or anything?

[John Gabris]

I. I, I got. I had every test known to me. You know, this. In the last year, I. I got Mayo clinics, 100. Everything done just because I was like, what is wrong with me? And I didn't. I didn't know what was wrong with me at first. And I started using a cpap. So I was like, did the CPAP trigger this or, like, this sickness that I had? I. I always was like, oh, is this, like, some sort of long Covid? And when I was looking up symptoms, immediately people were like, brain fog and vision issues, like floaters and disassociation. So, like, when you look in the.

[Mike Mitchell]

Mirror, extreme lethargy and fatigue.

[John Gabris]

Yes. 100. Which is always kind of.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, it's hard to spot.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. Hard to spot.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's like someone's like, oh, you'll know you have it if you have diarrhea. I'd be like, chief, I'm fucking doing it all day.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

So that was like, that. That was. The issue is I was like, oh, I'm tired and I'm not sleeping well anyways. I have always dealt with, like, insomnia, and I've. I've needed a CPAP forever. And this is. It was funny. The timing of it was like, I just started using my cpap and then I got sick, like, a month after that. And I'd use my CPAP for a.

[Mike Mitchell]

Month and thought maybe the cpap.

[John Gabris]

And then I was like, oh, there's, like, air shooting into my head. Maybe that's like. Like my equilibrium is fucked up or something like that.

[Adam Pally]

Are you. Do you. You suffer from depression?

[John Gabris]

Well, I had in the past, and then when it came back with this, there was so much anxiety that. And this is the embarrassing thing, and this is. And so it's that sort of thing of, like, I would. I just told two people back home in Quincy. I was like, I have long coveted. And they were like, that's not real. You know what I mean? Like, they're probably not the best people to confide in 100%. Other people were, like, on board with. But even doctors, like, you tell Doc, you know what I mean? You're like, this is what's going on. And they're like, oh, those are kind of vague symptoms. You know what I mean? And on the other hand, you're on, like, dealing with this thing where you're, like, in your house and everything feels blurry, and you just feel, like in a. Like, you feel like you're in, like, a coma. It's crazy. You. You just. It's. It's. It's the closest I feel like, to be to. To, like, losing your mind or having, like, Parkinson's or also Alzheimer's or something like that.

[Mike Mitchell]

Just, like, lost. You're feeling lightheaded. You got panicky, right?

[John Gabris]

Yeah, I got so. I mean, it got bad when I. When I first had vertigo. I mean, should I. If I lead you.

[Mike Mitchell]

If I lead you down something you don't want to talk about, you don't have to.

[John Gabris]

I'm just haunted. If you want to. The real truth of what was going.

[Adam Pally]

Because you fell down, you thought, like.

[John Gabris]

Did you have vertigo for the first time, I think it was my body being like, what's going on? And I was like not able to.

[Adam Pally]

Your mind was like, this isn't physical. This is something exterior.

[John Gabris]

Yes. And I. It was, it was Halloween time. This is very embarrassing. This is just gonna make people think that I am. I'm out of my mind anyways.

[Mike Mitchell]

But you're not so much out of your mind as like a Boston Catholic.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

A way of being already ghosts and shit is like exactly half of what you guys.

[Mike Mitchell]

A 40 year old man who's afraid of the devil.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. It's like half of your whole life is to be afraid of Satan and.

[John Gabris]

And Jews and I still, I still am. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. No, that's why I sat here. I was gonna sit there. I was like, let's make Mitch comfortable. I'll sat across this table.

[Mike Mitchell]

He's not as com with me. I'm from Long island, so I've been too close to them.

[Adam Pally]

But you. It's like, we know, we all know who he's more comfortable with the mirror.

[John Gabris]

There is a sad moment during. So during all of this. I mean, truly, like, it feels like you're getting dementia. It's. It is, it's. It. It was the first three months of me having long Covid. Were the worst three months of my life. And not to be dark, but I was like, I don't know if I could continue to live this way. And I really genuinely meant that. Like it was like super hard pain.

[Adam Pally]

Is pain any kind of pain? Like even dull pain. I feel like, like if you, if you hurt your knee and it incapacitates your movement or something, the way that it affects your mind can be so, so much worse than the actual physical pain.

[John Gabris]

Yes. Yeah. And that, that was. And to me, it's like also like we were. We do comedy and we're supposed to be on stage and be. And I'm, you know, already my baseline is pretty low. I'm not that flaunting energy. Yeah. Not the energy guy. So on top of it to be like, I can't think straight. You know what I mean?

[Adam Pally]

Like that I remember seeing photos of you at the ucb, like holding a.

[Mike Mitchell]

Bunch of climb in the back.

[Adam Pally]

I don't remember those. Like, those moments may have escaped me.

[Mike Mitchell]

The birthday boy sketch where you're running on a treadmill.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I think I forgot that one.

[John Gabris]

The UCP for every time I try to climb the back wall. They're like, no.

[Mike Mitchell]

There'S like a guy with a tool belt going.

[John Gabris]

No, I'M not the highest energy guy anyways. But so like to then also be like, oh, I can't. Like, I want. Like I'll sit inside. And I'm just. Even things like, what did I just think of a second ago? There was so much stuff with the. Like that which happens anyways. And as you're getting older, that happens anyway. So it was like, oh, maybe this is just me getting old and this thing will pass. But it was three intense, intense months of it. And I remember I called my mom and I was like, I've been like a little paranoid and things are going on mentally that are. I've never experienced before. And my mom, to her credit was like, I'm coming out. And she, she was coming out anyways, like a month, like a few weeks later. But she was like, I'm coming out this week. And we went to a million doctors and they.

[Mike Mitchell]

And this. I'm. I want to take a moment here to say I'm very proud of you because you, like me, are a little medical resistant. Like, that's the lifelong fat people have a hard time going to doctors. And we could actually unpack this at length.

[John Gabris]

And it's because they're always like, well, you're fat. That's always the issue.

[Mike Mitchell]

I know I'm fat, but fix my cock.

[John Gabris]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. And then the doctor. The frustrating thing for the doctor is I think to take the doctor's side for my father.

[John Gabris]

Sure, sure. Who's a doctor.

[Adam Pally]

And he does it the best way when you like, he has the best. And I've, I've seen him do it his. The way he's just so emotionally available on, on all of these things with. Where most doctors would fire back. Well, whatever's going on is because of your weight. Right. And so it's like until you fix that. Which is maybe not true and not proven, but the doctor is looking like that's the, the, the business interaction is like, I'm going to give you an answer. You want an answer?

[John Gabris]

Here's the answer.

[Mike Mitchell]

Well, it's like going into a mechanic, like going like, my radio doesn't work. And your mechanic's like, you have four flat tires.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, exactly.

[Mike Mitchell]

Fix the radio.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And you're like, I know that, but that's how I get around on flat tires. So fix the radio. But the. But. But I think a good doctor.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Will. And it's so not talked about in doctors. I feel like again. And I know that's like point nine percent of the people listening to our show, but the Best doctors are the ones who are better at talking to you and being in the room with you. Then, like, the medicine part is secondary. That part is the stuff that, like, you. Everybody has to learn that.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And it's the doctors that think that because they know that, that they can treat you like a car.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And you're not a car. You're like, you know, I want to.

[Mike Mitchell]

Be like, okay, well, let's. Let's unpack. What's going on with your brain fog? Hey, also on your way out of here, I would recommend.

[Adam Pally]

Or like. Or like, what my dad. Or like, what my dad would do just because he has done this, incepted me with it in my whole life, is that he wouldn't even bring up your weight.

[Mike Mitchell]

Right.

[Adam Pally]

He would just. At the end of it, he would go, hey, you know what I've been doing lately? I've been running.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

You know, and, like, he'll, like, make it sound. And you're like, you're 70. You're running. He's like, not, like running, but, like, I'll jog a little bit in the.

[John Gabris]

Morning, which is a thing that always. It is funny when you're like. Even when I was dealing with this stuff, like, going for a walk would just give me a little bit more mental clear clarity no matter what.

[Adam Pally]

Exactly.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And like, that was his advice, was like, just maybe before you do anything, maybe like, he's like, maybe before you get in the shower, after you drop the kids, you, like, take a walk.

[John Gabris]

Like, a walk or a run.

[Adam Pally]

I've been doing it. You know, and then you're. And then it just. Like a good doctor, it's like, that sticks in your mind, and you're like, that's what I have to do. Take a walk and stuff. And the bad ones are like, the one that's like, hey, you want to know what's wrong? It's your. Your fat.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Even this is what a doc, a doctor, a physician's assistant said to me one time. Even one less drink a week could really help. I'm like, I'm not even drinking.

[John Gabris]

I told you this.

[Adam Pally]

I mean, that's horrible.

[Mike Mitchell]

I flipped out and I said, I got. Like, I got. I now probably have, like, a special marker on my file. I. I was like, I will only continue to come to this doctor's office if I never see you again.

[John Gabris]

Oh, man.

[Mike Mitchell]

But that's. Yeah. I guess all that to say we're a little resistant to ask for help. And then you had to, like, you had to do it like 100% more than you've ever had to do it.

[John Gabris]

It was the worst combo of I hadn't been to a doctor and, and I hadn't found a great doctor in la. And then I, I started go. I. My, My mom was like, you need to find a doctor. My mom, rightfully so scared that I'm gonna die, was like, you need to find a doctor and get your health under control. This is. So I went to this doctor that is like, you pay a service for every year, which is already I'm lucky that I can afford that or whatever, which is also crazy. Whatever is the more money you have.

[Mike Mitchell]

The healthier you get to be. It's like a crazy deal in life.

[John Gabris]

It's horrible. And also, it's just that sort of thing of what you're saying is like, you got. I got to like, talk to him more. But. And he was great. But honestly, the person who was the best. I went to an acupuncturist and I was just like, I'm having like, all these issues. And she just did listen the most and was like, oh, that could be be like, like, she was like, that could be long Covid. I was like. Because I already thought that that's what it was. And I was just trying to not have that be what it is. But she was like, there's you have a lot of phlegm, and let's try to clear out the fl. You know what I mean? Like, this is one of so many people I was trying to figure out what was going on.

[Mike Mitchell]

You went to an acupuncturist?

[John Gabris]

I went to an acupuncturist. I went to. I got, I got an mri. I, I, I, I went to a cardiologist. I, I neurologist, I went to a neurologist. I went to a million different things.

[Adam Pally]

And so how did Zeppelin bound becomes.

[John Gabris]

Zepbound was like just this sort of thing of like, I already am was big and I needed to lose weight. And then I was just kind of like, will me getting. Will getting healthy solve some of these problems from what. What I'm experiencing in the last year? And it was kind of like, why not try to do that? I might as well try to do it now and try to be as healthy as I can be. And also, like, the life I'm living right now is not great. You know what I mean? So why not, why not do something? And I, I wasn't. The thing I was nervous about was, is like, can you get cancer from GLP? 1s or something, you know, And I asked my doctor that. He's like, a lot of people have taken these drugs for, like, a long time. You're. You know what I mean? Like, there's people who are diabetic who have taken, like, a form of these drugs for. For a very long time. And you're. And, like, that's not. And he's also like, you know what else gives you cancer is your weight that you're at right now.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. My cardiologist said something to the effect of, like, what? I'm like, well, you know, we don't know all the side effects of these GLP1s. He's like, but we do know all the side effects of lifelong obesity.

[John Gabris]

I was like.

[Adam Pally]

You'Re like, I never want to talk to this doctor again either.

[Mike Mitchell]

The only doctor. The only doctor.

[Adam Pally]

I'll only talk to Adam's dad. You're holding one by the. With a gun.

[Mike Mitchell]

Like, everybody get the down.

[Adam Pally]

You want me to take this Zepp out?

[Mike Mitchell]

Like John Q in the hospital lobby, bugging out.

[John Gabris]

They. They're all mad. They all have to wear, like, giant masks while you're in there. John.

[Adam Pally]

John, it's okay.

[Mike Mitchell]

We're gonna get you now.

[Adam Pally]

I need a helicopter that'll make us stop at Arby's.

[John Gabris]

Which you can still eat on Zeppon if you want to. You can still.

[Adam Pally]

That's.

[Mike Mitchell]

You shouldn't want to eat Arby's. That's a broken part of people's brains.

[John Gabris]

Sure. Yeah. Yes.

[Adam Pally]

Yes, yes.

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[Adam Pally]

So what are you feeling every day? Because everyone has different reactions to it, different side effects and different emotional things to it. And I've had my own. But like, how. What was your journey like as you took it?

[John Gabris]

I mean there's moments when you first take it, which I think you know, where it's like, oh my God, like I am not thinking about food in the same way.

[Adam Pally]

And you.

[John Gabris]

And you're like, this is a miracle drug.

[Mike Mitchell]

And I felt like your brain got the word. The phrase you used with me that hit me hard and I think I've previously obviously quoted you and how on other episodes is it quieted the food.

[John Gabris]

Noise 100 and that's what so many people say is like the food noise goes away. And I and I had heard that before and then in my first maybe it was week two where I like officially was like, oh man. Yeah, I'm like not like the, the idea to like go to McDonald's or something at late at night or like to eat something, you know, when I'm just hanging around watching tv, like that wasn't there anymore. And then there is the other side of it that does. It sometimes makes you feel too full or uncomfortable. There is a side of that, too, that happens.

[Adam Pally]

I think that there's like a. In my. In my experience. And you can tell me again, everybody's got their own. But in my experience, it was like the first month, you lose weight really rapidly.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Because you're mentally not used to feeling this way.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And so your physical nature just doesn't. You don't feel good. Like, you. You. You don't feel good. So you're, like, battling against food in a way. Because when you say you don't feel.

[Mike Mitchell]

Good, you mean, like, nauseous.

[Adam Pally]

Sometimes you're nauseous.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

It's like all the.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's.

[Adam Pally]

It's like walking around with, like, a slight bug.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

You know, in the first two weeks.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I would say 100.

[John Gabris]

And I. I feel like you. It's that sort of thing of, like, you. You're supposed to eat, but you. Sometimes there's days where you won't.

[Adam Pally]

You won't. You'll go days because you're just like. And I don't think it's in the beginning food noise. I think it's physical. I think it's like, you're like, I'm not feeling comfortable enough to eat, and if I eat, it's going to make me feel worse. And then you'll get a little bit of appetite for something that, like, you love, and you'll eat it and it'll be enough.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And you won't, like, gorge on it.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. Because I would eat. I mean, like, I said this before, and this has never happened to me my entire life. When I went to Jersey, I would get Jersey Mike's because I still will get sandwiches and food I like, which is okay. It's about moderation. You know what I mean? Like, that is. That's the thing with it is it is, like, portion size. And at Jersey Mike's, I never in my life have gotten a small sandwich ever in my entire life. Like, I can't even remember as a child doing it. And then at Jersey Mike's, I'll always get a mini. Now I've never got a mini ever in my life. And that was, like, immediately. It was like the first thing where I was like, I'm getting a mini, and I'm, like, satisfied with the mini, which was crazy.

[Mike Mitchell]

All I need to do is find a woman who's satisfied with my mini. Yeah. And then wear Gucci.

[Adam Pally]

You need to find a Jersey. Michaela.

[Mike Mitchell]

Take a Jersey mic at this Point.

[Adam Pally]

I. I found the same thing.

[Mike Mitchell]

Like I got Boston Mike. If you got one my first.

[John Gabris]

That's our you and me just injecting each other.

[Adam Pally]

Where do you go?

[Mike Mitchell]

Do you.

[Adam Pally]

Do you inject the stomach or do you go. I go thigh.

[John Gabris]

Oh, do. You could do thigh. You're braver than me. I do thigh. I do, I do stomach. I'm still on. I only did pens for just a sec. So this is another thing. When you tight trade up when you're, when you're. When you're going up to a higher dose because they start you off at 2.5.

[Adam Pally]

Is that the. Never gone up this.

[John Gabris]

Okay. So this is, this is a zepbound thing.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

You start 2.5 and mine was just self injections. They give you a needle and then a little vial. I don't think I could do that. It's honestly the, the. I like it more than the pen.

[Adam Pally]

Really. Pen is enough for me. Like, I like the pen is easy.

[John Gabris]

And you just push it and you're like, oh, it's done. I didn't even realize it happened. But when, when you're doing like you do have to inject a pen into your stomach, which is kind of crazy.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

But putting it into my thigh, maybe with a pen it would be easier to do. But. But like putting an actual needle into my thigh was too.

[Adam Pally]

But the pen doesn't go as deep. So it's just like it's. There's something less invasive about it. I don't know.

[John Gabris]

It does.

[Adam Pally]

And the visual of the needle in my stomach was making me like.

[John Gabris]

Sure. Yeah. I mean it is. It's. The thing is. Is that the pen. You can get the pen for cheap. I mean. Sorry. You can get the needle for cheaper than the pen. So like there is like.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, of course. Everything is priced.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. If the pen with. With Zepp on the pen is more money. Yeah. And so you can just do a needle. Needle and the needle. I got used to the needle first and that's. That's how I liked to do it. But it took me a second. I never injected myself. I never had a sharps container in my entire life. Even though I was close with diabetes, of course. But. But yeah, no, I started at 2.5 and then for me, when I went up to 5 or maybe 7.5, that's where I started to like get nauseous. And then they sometimes will prescribe you like anti nausea medication and stuff like that too.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I got, I got nauseous right away.

[John Gabris]

Like.

[Adam Pally]

And it Was with cannabis. Even with my cannabis consumption. Like, thank God for cannabis, honestly, in that first month. Because it was a real.

[Mike Mitchell]

That always settles. My nausea is getting a couple.

[Adam Pally]

And it will. It is like, it does work. Like, it is God's gift to zepbound users. If you.

[John Gabris]

Sure. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

If it. Because it was the only thing that would, like, keep me from walking around all day feeling tired, tied up, you know, in knots. I'm not going up because I don't. I. I'm. I'm just want to not have a stroke and a heart attack. Just want to maintain it. 100 at the 2.5. But I'm switching because Mounjaro has a second ingredient, and I'm not sure what it is, and I don't want to speak. And I just know that there's two ingredients versus one ingredient.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And there's something about the two ingredients that can sometimes give you some side effects that are, like, really unpleasant.

[John Gabris]

Oh, okay. Sure. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And, like, I've lost a couple of days.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's. I. That's. I mean, I've lost days, too, from Zeppelin. And like, there. I take a thing called senna, which is like a natural senna. Makes you go to the bathroom.

[Adam Pally]

My dad was like, it's. First of all, senna is a miracle.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

What are you doing two a day?

[John Gabris]

Or, like, I'll do. I'll do one or two at night, depending on when I take the shot. So, like, the first day I take the shot, I'll do two Senna and. And two magnesium at night. And magnesium is the other thing that. This is all stuff that helps you, but you should. It all is helping you, but you should. As a person who is a very good. I know this about you. You are a great.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

Top tier.

[John Gabris]

I've gotten so many. And as I know, you have toilet selfies of game.

[Adam Pally]

He is an amazing. And he's also a. That he's taught me this too, as being on the road with him. He's like. It's like sometimes I'll be in a bad mood and I'll check myself because I didn't take the extra 15 minutes. Minutes to, like, walk around my room in the morning and before we would start shooting or whatever.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And, like, it is so important to, like, get regular in the morning.

[Mike Mitchell]

I wake up. Like, today I wake up two hours before I have to leave.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

No matter what. Like, no matter what time my call time is. I'm up 90 minutes to two hours before I Have to leave.

[Adam Pally]

Well, that's why.

[Mike Mitchell]

So I'm just home drinking water, drinking coffee, moving around.

[John Gabris]

You have a lot of big boy things that. A lot of big. Like you're more. You're a good morning guy.

[Mike Mitchell]

I have to be. Or else I'm like in a bad mood. Like if I have to. If I have to show up at Sirius XM and Devin's like, we gotta roll. I'm like, hold on, I gotta go like cry on the toilet for like a half hour. Like, I can't have that. So I gotta show up to set empty.

[Adam Pally]

I think you're going into the experience in the right way though, because you know what is coming and you like. I think for a lot of people, they give up really quick on it because it's just like too much. Cause the other thing that I was. Was gonna say to you is that I had. I don't know if you had this. I had a real emotional problem with it for the first time.

[John Gabris]

Wow.

[Adam Pally]

I got really depressed.

[John Gabris]

Oh, sure. I mean, that's funny because I was dealing with so much long Covid stuff and being depressed anyways that I don't know if. If you know, because I've been on it since December, which actually had been getting better. But when we came back here, I had a little bit of a. A fallback into long Covid stuff, which was whoa. Which sucks. Do you think you got it again symptoms? I mean, that's like a possibility. They say that you could get it again, but there's a lot of people who. Who have just had. Had flare ups basically. And they don't know why. And they don't know why. Yeah, yeah, I know. It's. It's terrifying.

[Mike Mitchell]

What you're referring to is we did a week long tour.

[John Gabris]

Yes.

[Mike Mitchell]

That was like a little more drastic than you wanted. Like a little more intense than we wanted it to be. And I guarantee that beats you up a little. And then that activates some symptoms.

[John Gabris]

And when you're exhausted, the neurolog and it's like mine is all neurological stuff. There's people who like can't get out of bed and there's. There's a great Men's Health article on it. If for people who are skeptical about it, where a doctor got it and this doctor, Dr. Light, I know his name is like Mega Man Y Mega man character, but. But he's a Colorado doctor and he got it and then he's.

[Adam Pally]

And how did it affect his one arm? That was a machine gun that shoots bubbles.

[John Gabris]

It wasn't Working.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Well, then you gotta go.

[Mike Mitchell]

Some of these long Covid symptoms are real bad. My arm cannon no longer works.

[John Gabris]

Read. But read. If you. If you want to know about long Covid, read that. Because there's, like, athletes who are, like. And I'm not an athlete either, you know, and who are like, I can't. I can't work out anymore. You know what I mean?

[Adam Pally]

There's a lot of Porzingis.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. I mean, Porzingis is kind of. It is that sort of thing I feel so bad for, and I know that it gets better is that's, like, since I've gone, it has gotten better. And then when I have, like, you know, these fallbacks or whatever, I just know that I've gotten better over time. But you are like, I think Porzingis does have long Covid.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's. A lot of people are saying, yeah, yeah, you've. You've dropped some visible weight, and I also am your friend, so I'm updated on things. You like, eyeballing you. You've lost some weight.

[John Gabris]

I dropped, like, 30.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yes, that's 30.

[John Gabris]

30 to 35 pounds. And. And. And my issue is. And I'll just. I'll be open with numbers, I guess, but, like, forever. I never wanted to know that I went over £300.

[Mike Mitchell]

Mitch has been a guest on my podcast. High and Mighty. Adam's, of course, been a guest a hundred times, too, but Mitch, we did an annual Being Fat checkup, and Mitch would never say his current body weight.

[John Gabris]

Yes. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

And now are you under 300? Is that why you're.

[John Gabris]

I mean, it's that funny thing, because I was like, once I go under 300, I'll never go back up. But it is very funny that I've, like, gotten right to 300 and then I dip under it, and then I will be like, 301 or 302. So that is like.

[Mike Mitchell]

But hovering around 300 is better than hovering around 320.

[John Gabris]

That's like.

[Mike Mitchell]

Like, you know what I mean?

[Adam Pally]

Huge difference.

[John Gabris]

I never thought about how it's. It's this funny fat guy thing of, like, I was like, I'm 300. So I got to, like. I got to get to, like, 270. But I never in my mind thought about how hard it was to go from 3:30 to 300. I was like, just were starting at 3. Yeah. I was just, like, putting myself at 3. It's like, 300. That's not true. I. Not at 300 pounds.

[Mike Mitchell]

A couple of years ago, I was Just telling everyone I weighed 295, which was true. And then Tiffany just says to me, hey, are you sure you're 295? Cuz you haven't weighed yourself in like a few months and you've obviously like put on weight. And I get on the scale and it says like 321. And I'm like, I've been telling I'm off by 25.

[John Gabris]

Oh yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I mean, I, I, I mean because.

[Mike Mitchell]

Of my fear of the scale.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

We are recording this on Tuesday, June 3rd.

[John Gabris]

3Rd. And people know that we're on a giant scale. You guys just get, you weigh everyone every episode.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. It's hard to find.

[Adam Pally]

We try not to talk cameraman. We try not to talk about weight.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's hard to find camera ops because they're all a little like, I don't want everyone to know our weight. But I could say this now I'm at like 319 on June 3rd and I have to get that number below three.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. You, you, you, you will.

[Adam Pally]

That's going to fly off.

[John Gabris]

I've been unhealthy with both of you before and, and, and.

[Adam Pally]

Correct. You are correct, sir.

[Mike Mitchell]

And if we want Smart List to air this episode, they're real sticklers for narcotics.

[John Gabris]

But we've been, we've been, we've, we've all. I've been healthy with, with and, and in. When, when I was hanging on tour. You, we were having fun on tour. And I do think that that was like when I finished, I was exhausted in it and then I was like, oh, I wonder why this came back. Well, I wonder why I had like a relapse or whatever.

[Adam Pally]

Exactly.

[John Gabris]

Like, it's like, oh, I was like eating poorly and not sleeping well and it made sense.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. And I'm wondering if the, the times when I had bad days or strung together were because I had like a long weekend or something. And like they make, they may have been. And so this switch may be for not. Yeah, but, but I, I do think that that is also something because alcohol.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Is something that I've also had a mental. The food and alcohol, like the atmosphere.

[John Gabris]

Is tricky on these drugs, no matter what.

[Adam Pally]

It's really tricky.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

But I meaning tricky. Meaning it's harder to consume or you get fucked up easier or you become a light.

[John Gabris]

It's kind of, it's kind of a dealer's choice. It's such a weird thing where you're like someday, like some nights I'm drinking, I'm like, I feel this Is great. It feels like I. How I normally feel. And then other times, like I can't drink that much. Other times where like I'm getting drunk fast, there's all sorts of different weird shit that happens.

[Adam Pally]

And I think a lot of it is because of the caloric intake.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Because on every day it's, it's very.

[Mike Mitchell]

You have 1800 calories of lunch in there.

[Adam Pally]

Right. Like where you used to get drunk, it felt the same every day because you were like. Or every time.

[John Gabris]

Not every day. Not every day.

[Adam Pally]

Not every day.

[John Gabris]

Every time.

[Adam Pally]

Every time. Every time.

[Mike Mitchell]

Cuz it could be twice.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, sometimes it's twice if you don't.

[Mike Mitchell]

The point is with polyphasic sleep you can get drunk twice a day. Just follow me on this.

[Adam Pally]

But, but your, your baseline is already like you're, you're equipped for the alcohol. And I think that now the days are so different for me at least. Like some, some days I'll wake up and I'll be starving. I'll eat like an abnormal omelet breakfast and like go on with my day. And sometimes the idea of that will be repulsive.

[John Gabris]

Oh yes. 100. I keep saying 100%, but 100% again you're right. That for me it's like there's some nights where I'll go out after a show. I like to keep it 100 and I mean when you keep it 300. That has been me for it is that it is that annoying hurdle where I'm like, I'm just floating around and I just went up to, I just went up to 10. I went up to the dose. My dosage is, is 10 now and it goes to 15. Yeah, so. So yeah, 10 milligrams, which I have no idea what it means but. Oh, milligram screen.

[Mike Mitchell]

I only know MGs and GS from drugs.

[Adam Pally]

I'm on 10 MCGs.

[Mike Mitchell]

I watch Charlie's Angels 10 times a day.

[Adam Pally]

I gotta eat, I gotta sing. I gotta sing in a falsetto and play a jazz master.

[John Gabris]

10 is 10. Actually 7.5 is the one that I responded. I was like, I feel sick.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And that's when I got anti nausea medication. And 10 I've done okay with so far. And I'm. I just took my second dose of it and I'm going to New Orleans on Wednesday.

[Adam Pally]

But that might be good. I mean it may be good to not go into New Orleans guns blazing for once.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. I do wonder. I wonder how just with the drinking thing, I just never know how I'm going to feel. Or if I will drink and feel nauseous or whatever. You just don't know.

[Adam Pally]

And I got to tell you, in Mike's like, I've only been. I've only skipped one shot because I'm switching.

[John Gabris]

Sure.

[Adam Pally]

So the. They said to take a week off, and so I usually do it on Sunday because I want those first three days of the week to be the shitty ones and not the weekend.

[John Gabris]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

And that's what.

[John Gabris]

I was doing that for a while, too. My doctor was like, well, you, like, want to eat on the weekend, right? And I was like, yeah, he's on the show.

[Mike Mitchell]

He's like, do Friday.

[John Gabris]

So he was like. He was like, try to do Friday. And I. I swear I was doing Monday. And then I switched to Wednesday just making me.

[Adam Pally]

So what I. I found the. The emotional aspect of it was making me so miserable because truly in my life, the only thing I ever. I'm going to start crying. The only thing I look forward to is going out to dinner.

[John Gabris]

I get that.

[Mike Mitchell]

And everyone at this, on this podcast can fully relate.

[Adam Pally]

Like, that's the only thing that I live for.

[Mike Mitchell]

And this is maybe, you know, zoom out our issue.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, maybe that's a problem.

[Mike Mitchell]

But I only find joy in food. But the person that's never hurt me is food. Even though food has made me over £300. Hurt my knees this morning, getting out of bed.

[Adam Pally]

Hurt my career a lot.

[Mike Mitchell]

I. Rugby career.

[John Gabris]

I mean, that's the thing for. I mean, Gabrius said this to me, and it's the smartest thing you've ever said to me was like. I was like, we're big guys, and that's how we get cast as big guys. And he was like, if you lost £100, you still would be the big guy. And I was like, oh.

[Mike Mitchell]

And then let me tag it with now the present companies here, because I always bring him up, too. I go, don't forget Adam Pally was the fat one on Happy.

[John Gabris]

That is insane.

[Adam Pally]

Well, that was the joke. That was the reason for it was because it was like, Hollywood.

[John Gabris]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

Like, that's what we're saying. But it's true. I was the fat. But then it became real. Like, it was a joke. It was a joke on the pilot, like, chubby, whatever. But then every episode it was written in, and I was like, wait a minute. I am the fattest one here.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. By design of, like, Hollywood.

[Adam Pally]

About Hollywood. Yeah. Everyone's young, attractive, Yolked, Zack Knight and David Jr. Who were like, yeah, I was in trouble. And it was like, wait a minute. These jokes are real for them. You know, they're making a joke about the fattest person in the room.

[John Gabris]

If they were in your, if they had suddenly warped into the fatness you had at that point, which you were. Not that I consider you hunky.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, thank you. I literally, I had a problem.

[Mike Mitchell]

Chunks vs. Hunks reality show that we're doing.

[Adam Pally]

I had your exact problem. Just 5 inches shorter and 100 pounds. So. Because I, I think what are you, 6, 4?

[John Gabris]

Yeah, 6, 3.

[Adam Pally]

Right. So I'm like 511 with a hunch.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

So like 5, 10, 9. You know, and I was at my biggest this year, which is right when I saw you when you were.

[John Gabris]

Oh, right.

[Adam Pally]

When I was asking, when we were talking about. And you were like, you should do it.

[John Gabris]

Oh yeah. Was.

[Adam Pally]

I was at like 215.

[John Gabris]

Okay. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And I didn't know because I just was like, I don't ever go on the scale. Yeah, I don't ever. And, and I was like. And I, I, I work out all the time. Meanwhile, I was eating and drinking. Drinking like crazy compared to what I do now.

[Mike Mitchell]

I never noticed that you were putting on weight, but yesterday or Sunday at the pool, I noticed that you had.

[Adam Pally]

Lost weight, which is. Thank you. Which is something no one has ever said about me.

[John Gabris]

Sure.

[Adam Pally]

In my life. Like I've, I've looked the same way since we met. Since we met. I've been the same weight and height since I was 13.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, you've been like, like an 11 pound range.

[Adam Pally]

But I've never gotten thin or jacked.

[John Gabris]

Or, you know, I, I was once, once I hit high school, I was. And it's crazy to be like I was 15 or 220 pounds and I was big. But then also the issue being like a high school big guy and also being a.

[Mike Mitchell]

Strong 510 in senior high school. I'm 5 10, 225 and bad at football.

[John Gabris]

Yes. That is the worst. That's the worst.

[Adam Pally]

7. Can't hold a basketball.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

That is the worst combo that, that there was. And then to think of like, oh my God. That way, like seeing a picture of me in high school and being like, you are tying and like, it's a sliding scale.

[Mike Mitchell]

I would shoot my mother in the head right now to be the weight I was in high school. Like, my, my best friend sent a picture of us hanging around in high school and was like, hey, we used to call you fat back then. It's like the picture of me is like an after photo.

[John Gabris]

Well, let me.

[Mike Mitchell]

I would literally do anything to look like that. Well, let me without the frosted tips.

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[Adam Pally]

You said one thing before that I, That I do want to say for both of you, which is regardless of how much you weigh.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I don't think of either of you as a big guy. I think of you as a funny guy. Right. And I think, like, that's. That to me is like, that won't change.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm gonna cry, but that won't.

[Adam Pally]

That wouldn't change if you. That wouldn't change if you looked like that dude in the Sebastian Stan movie or, like, you know what I mean? Like, you're, you're the funniest one around. So that's what you are. You know, like, I. And then your looks, and I feel like I forget that sometimes, too, because, like, I'm going into these rooms against, you know, like, people that are on magazine covers sometimes, and then I walk out, I'm like, am I doing. Like, this is. I shouldn't even be here. You know? But then you're like, but the point. The point isn't really about that. It's about who you are. And you guys are always going to be the funniest people, so.

[Mike Mitchell]

Right. And it's like, maybe.

[John Gabris]

Well, you as. You as well. I mean, that's.

[Adam Pally]

That's not true.

[John Gabris]

No, come on now.

[Adam Pally]

No, no, that's not true. Because there are. Because I don't do comedy.

[John Gabris]

What the hell is going on?

[Adam Pally]

I'm trying to. Yeah, I'm trying to. I, But I've never done comedy, so I'm. I don't even think of myself.

[Mike Mitchell]

A guitarist.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. I don't even think about. I'm, I, as an artist. I don't think of myself as a comedian ever. I've never even, like, gone on stage with the notion, like, is this going to get a laugh? Because I know that's not what I'm going for.

[Mike Mitchell]

You're just trying to create. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Content.

[John Gabris]

Honestly, that is, I think, the future for all of us. I mean, it doesn't really. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

So how are you feeling now?

[John Gabris]

Like, I, I feel. I mean, outside of having kind of a relapse in the last week of, Of Brain Fog stuff, which also, after the year and a half I've been through and now, you know, like seven months of being on Zeppelin, I, I, I did go when I was depressed and when I was anxious about it, I was like, I can overcome this feeling. I've seen the other side of it. And, like, I'm like, I'm dealing this is debilitating stuff and I'm. And I'm dealing with it, but I. I am feeling better. And also look, I think a lot of people are like I said they want you to do it the right way. And I already had done that once I rode when I went to college. I was like, I've like partied and I'm gonna like try to like get myself in shape. And then when it was like military school, it felt like when I was running crew because it was like six days a week of intense working out and I dropped weight and my plan was to have confidence to date girls. And that did not work at all. Basically working on that part, I mean. Yeah, that still was bad. I don't think I should go shot for that.

[Adam Pally]

I mean, you take shots.

[Mike Mitchell]

Allow me to repeat. You're very funny.

[John Gabris]

You're always going to be the funniest.

[Mike Mitchell]

You're on your own with this chick.

[John Gabris]

Seems like you're saying that as almost an insult. You're always going to be the fun.

[Adam Pally]

I just want to let you. There's something. You can always hang that head and. And you probably want to wearing that.

[John Gabris]

Balding is another. I gotta. I'm gonna go to Turkey or whatever. Hair trans. 100%.

[Adam Pally]

I. I have a couple friends that have done.

[Mike Mitchell]

I want to do it for my chest.

[John Gabris]

Why not?

[Mike Mitchell]

Dude in stomach hair and lay down like have to recline on the flight back from Istanbul. I mean because I have a pretty solid head of air. But I.

[Adam Pally]

You do have a great hair. The one thing I'm. I.

[Mike Mitchell]

So now you're dropping lbs.

[John Gabris]

I'm dropping lbs.

[Mike Mitchell]

Feeling better.

[John Gabris]

By the way, A, like a. A person who gains. And this just shows that like some people have crazy metabolisms and can do that and go up in weight and come right back down. And I think that that is. It's a bad thing for people who be like, he did it so fast. Why can. It's like, well, that's like how his body is works.

[Mike Mitchell]

People's bodies are different.

[John Gabris]

People's bodies are different and. And it does feel good.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's crazy to be in 2025. You don't need to be a doctor you to agree that everybody's body is different. All you have to do is look at three to five bodies all look.

[Adam Pally]

Yet for some reason you can easily see some dumb like other side saying I disagree. All bodies are the same.

[Mike Mitchell]

That's what you do with it.

[Adam Pally]

You know what I mean? Like we all born with the same.

[John Gabris]

Stuff, you know, like if you search GLP1s on. On X, the everything app. You will search. See a lot of you. You'll just see a lot of nightmare responses to stuff.

[Mike Mitchell]

Well, you know what? You can search anything.

[John Gabris]

I mean, on.

[Mike Mitchell]

On X and see a lot of nightmare responses.

[John Gabris]

Honestly, I shouldn't be doing. I shouldn't be doing that. I shouldn't be looking for hate.

[Mike Mitchell]

Basically, a fun game to do is pick something you think is insanely innocuous and then search it on Reddit or X. And there are people who are like, rainbows in the sky are going to kill us. They are terrorists.

[Adam Pally]

The pigeons or robots thing was like my favorite. That gained so much traction. Like, I think there are still people that really.

[John Gabris]

And it was just, I think, done as a joke at one point.

[Adam Pally]

I think so.

[John Gabris]

Of course it feels good to lose. We've talked about this before where, like, you'll. With a big guy, like, fluctuation between like £20 doesn't sometimes matter.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. Like 320 to 300. I barely notice. But, you know, other people do.

[John Gabris]

Other people do. Well, it's. It's that. That thing we. We have. We have a text chain with. With Stav and. And Zachary and it's like past and future guests. Yeah, all they all. We all deal with. With big guy stuff. But we were. We were saying that thing of like, you can be on. I can be on a street, Corm gaining 15 pounds and I'll see someone. They're like, you look good. And you're like, I actually don't look good.

[Adam Pally]

Right?

[John Gabris]

It hurt, but it just doesn't matter. Like, a lot of the time it doesn't matter.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm lighter than when the. I look a little bit better than the last time you saw me, but I actually looked even better, like, four weeks ago. I'm on, like, a bad run.

[John Gabris]

I'm on a bad run. Exactly. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm on, like, day 90 of a Bender that I need to like on. I need to.

[John Gabris]

I'm like, you got. You gotta. Also, sometimes you gotta do your thing and then you. And then you come to it and.

[Adam Pally]

You don't want to force it to early early because then it won't take.

[Mike Mitchell]

I have my doctor's appointment literally next Thursday. It's been rescheduled, like, twice because of life. And then, of course, every time I reschedule it, it's pushed three and a half or four months.

[John Gabris]

What? I have my. I have. This is. These are all my vitamins.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, nice. Let's get into it.

[John Gabris]

So. So I have A fish oil. Fish oil right here. This is a, this is a holly basil. Or is it holy basil? I don't. I think it's holy basil for you.

[Adam Pally]

It's.

[Mike Mitchell]

Once you've blessed it, it's.

[John Gabris]

Now it's holy basil. So this is, this is some brain fog stuff. But this is B. This is a B1, this is a D3, and this is a B complex.

[Adam Pally]

I've recently converted to like 5,000 milligrams of D3 a day.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, D3 is a big one. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I've been told that my dad's like, just. That's the kind of like a catch.

[Mike Mitchell]

All if you like doing vitamin D as well in addition to a multi.

[Adam Pally]

Right? I don't do a multi because I'll puke it up.

[John Gabris]

I brought these for you guys, so if you want them, you can try them.

[Adam Pally]

Thank you.

[John Gabris]

I love it when somebody leaves. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

For anyone who's listen. And I just did a fucking rail of fish oil.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

It's hard because it's liquid. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's hurting. It's in my septum.

[John Gabris]

It feels crazy, but so, so happy. I'm feeling, I'm feeling. I am besides that. So brain fog is another thing I'm dealing with. But also when I'm being my healthiest, I feel my best. Anyway, so I, I am losing weight. We just did a tour. I did a tour with Gabrison. It was a blast. We, we, we were at tc.

[Mike Mitchell]

We toured your podcast, which is a podcast where you eat at fast food chain restaurants. So we did that four nights in a row in four different cities. And that did shows and then drank after every show.

[John Gabris]

This is a very tricky thing of the. My, the chain restaurant podcast I do, which maybe I should have set up top, is a difficult thing. Yeah, but, but that is, that was a, like I definitely had gained weight since we started that. And also in like the last 10 years, you know, my, my dad passed away 13 years ago or 14 years ago. Sorry, dad. And then Harris, my buddy, died. So there was like weight gain going on. Emotional weight, emotional weight gain that I. Entire time and things. I probably should have checked sooner. But this, the GLP1s for me was like, this is the first step, like no matter what, because I would have so much time where I would be doing, doing it and feeling great. And I went to a trainer three days a week and then I'd have a slide or I go somewhere and. And this is a thing that I can't cheat. You know what I mean? Like, you can try to cheat on it, but you're gonna feel sick. It's like, like this, this is a catch all. So that's why I decided to do it. I'm like, I'm 40, 42. The, the realities of a heart attack or something like that or cancer or whatever, those are real now. And so that's why I was like, combined with brain fog. I was like, I need to get healthy. And in the last like seven months, losing that weight has been great. And then when people notice you losing weight, it is like a real, it's, it's helpful. It also makes me feel uncomfortable too.

[Mike Mitchell]

Makes it worth it.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

I mean where you're like, oh shit, we have actual results.

[John Gabris]

And, and now, and now I. Richter's here for his vitamins. Yeah, we'll leave those for nowadays, that sort of thing of. I just went to a new gym the other day and I'm going to start with a trainer.

[Adam Pally]

I was going to say, what's your relationship to exercise?

[John Gabris]

Not good. And this was for me was like I started off slow again and I was walking with Evan Susser and Evan Susser and I would walk around Los Feliz and do like three miles. And now he's gone to New York for the, he went to New York for work, so he's gone. And I just went and I went to a gym the other day that has a cold plunge and an infrared sauna.

[Mike Mitchell]

Hell yeah.

[John Gabris]

Got it. And I'm gonna work with a trainer. And this is, this is the thing that's, that sucks because I'm lucky in that way of like I have the money to afford a trainer and do that every week and I have the Money to afford GLP1s and GLP1s should be affordable for everyone in the world. And you know what I mean, it is that thing of. It's not fair that there's, it's going to be people who don't have money that are just struggling with obesity and they can't afford drugs that can make them healthier. And it's up and I'm lucky because it's, it's not covered by my insurance. I pay like $500 a month. It's super expensive. But that's something that should be available to everyone in the world. And I, I, I, I've, I've, I've been, I mean I've been saying to, you know that I've been saying to everyone since I started, I'm like, you should do this if, if you're, if you're at a weight where you're. It's going to affect your health and, and affect your life. You should be on these drugs and, and, and I know that there's the old fashioned way and I know that, that. And we have like a friend that's like, I want to do it the old school fashion way. There's a lot of people that don't want to do it, but that's a tough.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm one of those, I was one of those guys for a while and I just can't do it old fashioned way. It's time to try new fashion.

[Adam Pally]

Well, I mean, yeah, I think also the other, the, the even. Even. I think that the, the main thing is just the, the, the health benefits.

[John Gabris]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

Like the weight loss is a secondary. It's a, it's, it's a result. Result of a medicine that is keeping you alive.

[John Gabris]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

And what a, what a nice benefit because the medicine itself is actively doing.

[Mike Mitchell]

Stuff more than you just.

[John Gabris]

Weight loss 100. I'll say it.

[Mike Mitchell]

Jesus Christ.

[John Gabris]

It is, it is that. It is 300. When I was, when I was younger, I think so much of more of it was like, I want to lose weight because I want to look good. And it was like more about how my looks or whatever. And as I got older, I don't care. Like you said, we know our personalities. We know we're, you know, mean like, you know your fat.

[Mike Mitchell]

It's almost a double edged sword. When I flipped and got confident in my kind of fat body, I got confident and I'm like, well I'm fine. You know, I've got a beautiful wife, I've got a great life. I'm doing this shit and I'm like, yeah, what, what else do I need to lose weight for? And Now I'm at 43 years old and the doctor's like, have you had a calcium scan? And I was like, I gotta get, I gotta. It's not about having muscles anymore. It's about being, getting to be 70.

[John Gabris]

Yes. Yeah. And that's, that's, that's where, that's where I'm at now. I feel, I feel good about it and I want him to be, I want him to take the.

[Mike Mitchell]

You are my two big like, yeah.

[John Gabris]

That'S my other thing that I've done for my health in the last. I mean I've tried a person who didn't go to the doctor for like six years, which is not a good thing. I'm not bragging about that was bad. But then to Then go to the doctor. And I started using a cpap, which I've now used for like probably a year plus at this point.

[Mike Mitchell]

And that's got you like.

[John Gabris]

And I wake up. Disgusting. Say, but like I wake up with an erection in the morning, which I hadn't done in. This is very detailed stuff. But it's like I hadn't done that in forever. I woke up and it would, there'd be nothing going on. You know what I mean?

[Mike Mitchell]

If you follow the Staying Alive Instagram, we have pictures of.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, we can find those. We can find that. You'll show us the before and after. Interesting. I don't need an after erection. If the erection is the before, it's.

[Mike Mitchell]

Just a wad of paper towel.

[John Gabris]

But things are, things are moving in the right direction and a part of that is, I mean a huge part of it. Obviously they want you to change your lifestyle and they want you to eat healthier and exercise while you take these drugs. But like that's the Kickstarter, you know what I mean? Like, that's what's, that's what started all of it.

[Mike Mitchell]

So yeah, my cardiologist says like, yes, you need to change your habits too, but maybe this will be the thing that helps you change your habits.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, yeah, it's a fun battle to you. I mean, you will try to fight it. I mean, you're going to try to battle it for a while and look.

[Mike Mitchell]

At postmates and see if Fudgeing Manjaro can handle that shit.

[John Gabris]

I mean, and you will, it will. Yeah, well, you're like, you'll, you'll learn, you know what I mean? Like, you'll eat something huge and then you'll be like, I feel like. And you'll learn from it. But it's, it's going to be good. It's going to be great.

[Mike Mitchell]

Mike Mitchell, you're a.

[Adam Pally]

Thank you so much, Mike.

[John Gabris]

Thank you for having us. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Is there anything you want to plug? I feel like we should let you do that.

[John Gabris]

The Doughboys podcast, which you have both been guests on and you're both hilarious. Please, please give it a listen. And we have a Patreon, a double the Doughboys double. And then twisted metal season two comes out July 31st. So sick. Watch me get fat throughout the. But I don't know, I don't know if there's going to be a premiere yet. I, I, I don't know what the.

[Mike Mitchell]

The, I watched the show only cuz you, one of my best friends is on it. And then I ended up like, loving the show.

[John Gabris]

We got. We got to get you on season three.

[Mike Mitchell]

I just ended up being like, this show rules.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I love that game.

[John Gabris]

It's a great. It's a great game. The show is a lot of fun.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm hearing we might see more of the Cars this season. Don't say anything. This is just what I'm hearing.

[John Gabris]

There's some good. Season two is. Is legit. Yeah.

[Mike Mitchell]

People are saying season two is much even better than season one.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. Awesome.

[Adam Pally]

Exciting.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. Well, congrats, Mitch.

[Adam Pally]

Thanks, man.

[Mike Mitchell]

Maybe down the road, we'll have you back on for. We do a live show or something. We could do a followup and see where you're at.

[John Gabris]

Sure. I would love. I would love.

[Adam Pally]

We'll just get you on the scale in front of everybody here.

[John Gabris]

Can we still. Can we still do whippets on the live show?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I try to do it all the time. I'm having problem getting them now.

[John Gabris]

Also, by the way, the. The. The guy who's like, I have brain fog. I was like, I done whippets my whole life. People were like, wait a minute.

[Mike Mitchell]

I've been eating edible meat edibles every day. Day for the last 12.

[Adam Pally]

It is like that, like, when you go to the doctor sometimes, like, tell me your symptoms. You're like, I'm like, anxious sometimes. They're like, okay, well, do you smoke marijuana? You're like, yes.

[John Gabris]

Do you drink?

[Adam Pally]

Yes. Do you do other drugs? Yes.

[John Gabris]

Do you sleep?

[Adam Pally]

Not really.

[John Gabris]

Do you.

[Adam Pally]

It's like, healthy. Do you eat healthy? I don't know. None of the times when I can get food. No.

[John Gabris]

There is stuff we have the answer to.

[Adam Pally]

A lot of the time, the answers are kind of there.

[Mike Mitchell]

I'm just paying a copay to see if. Am I.

[John Gabris]

Do I.

[Mike Mitchell]

Can I really get living like this? No. Copy that.

[Adam Pally]

Thank you, Mike.

[John Gabris]

Thank.

[Mike Mitchell]

I've had probably recorded 20 hours of conversations with Mitch about his health off mic. Hundreds of hours. And I'm so glad that we all got to participate, meaning me, you, and the listeners.

[Adam Pally]

I. I just think it's so nice, like, how. How open he is. Like, he. He really does not care about and knows what all this stuff means and what you're going to think about him, especially because he's from Boston in that way. That's like, he's used to talking to people and getting a response that's like, you, you pussy.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah, right. Exactly. Well, he was one of the first people that said, like, I'm going on. He used to call him the fat shots. He's going on the fat shots and I'm going to talk about him. He's like, no one else really talks about him. And like, that's what I liked about you. You know, you're talking about it. And I think the more people that just talk about shit and I get, maybe it's a bad side of podcasting too. But the good side is the more people just talk about stuff and make you feel, I can relate. I'm going through the same problems. My headspace was the same. Like, I think that's important because I'll listen to a pod and be like, wow, that's what I'm thinking. I'm just, I'm not comfortable saying that.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I guess I'm learning that there's a positive side to podcast, that it's not all just like, like minded people who believe the earth is flat.

[Mike Mitchell]

Yeah. It's not exclusively people trying to dismantle Western democracy.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, totally.

[Mike Mitchell]

Some of us are just trying to sell Vuri shorts and talk.

[John Gabris]

Damn it.

[Mike Mitchell]

You beat me again. You have been listening to Staying Alive with John Gabris and Adam Pally. A smartless media production in association with Sirius xm.

[Adam Pally]

Produced by Devin Tory Bryant and Anne Harris. Engineered and edited by Devin Tory Bryant, who also wrote the music.

[Mike Mitchell]

Associate producer and video producer is Matty McCann. Social media producer Tommy Galgano, assistant engineer Kyle McGraw.

[Adam Pally]

Special thanks to Jared O' Connell at SiriusXM.

[Mike Mitchell]

Executive producers are John Gabris. Ooh me. Adam Pally. Ooh, you Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Richard Corson and Bernie Kaminski. Do us a favor. Just rate and review the podcast. It actually helps.

[Adam Pally]

Just so everyone knows we do not.

[Mike Mitchell]

Have a discord, don't reach out to us.

[Adam Pally]

See us on the street. Walk the other way or you'll catch hands.

[Mike Mitchell]

And then we could do an outro. Well, that was a really up conversation. I can't believe that's how he feels about Sudan crazy.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, but you know what? You do have to ignore some things.

[John Gabris]

Smart glass.

[Mike Mitchell]

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