
Hosts Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally haven’t seen each other since last year, and since Pally booked a new job they may not see each other in person for a bit yet, so they hopped on the old video conferencing app for an epic catch-up. They’ll talk about Jon’s mood-altering Christmas in Mexico, apologize for having to drop our show at SF Sketchfest this year, compare notes on Marty Supreme, One Battle After Another, and more. Plus: Gabrus and Jack Black’s Once Upon A Time In Hollywood? And Mount Pallymore has taken a hit recently, time to offer up some sincere RIPs. Full video episodes available HERE. Check out Staying Alive merch at siriusxmstore.com/stayingalive This episode was recorded January 18, 2026 across the information superhighway Staying Alive is produced by Devon Torrey Bryant and Anne Harris Engineered and edited by Devon Torrey Bryant, who also wrote the music Associate producer and video editor is Maddie McCann Executive produced by Jon Gabrus, Adam Pally, Sean Hayes, ...
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Smart.
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Less.
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How are you, Johnny? I miss you, man.
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I miss you, too, Adam. We're doing a remote episode. That's how much we miss each other. And that's, like, unusual for us.
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I know, but. But I feel like under these circumstances, it's like, you know, similar to what we say about our. Our workouts. It's like, just do something.
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Yeah. Something's better than nothing, right? Like, yeah. And we have so much to catch up on because we haven't seen each other in so long due to the magic of pre recording and the holidays. And you're getting ready to leave town for a little bit for some work, and we needed to squeeze something in, and now here we are across the country, catching up like. Like, like we're Bateman in our net, you know, just like, across the universe. What. What's going on?
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Well, nothing, you know, I'm getting ready.
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To do the 2026.
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I'm getting ready to do the Beatles.
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You're working. You're working on your Paul action for your character.
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Well, I haven't asked Mendez this yet, but I'm going to show up prepared to play all four.
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Let me know if. Let me know if Keegan doesn't have the juice. I'll step in or whatever. Can't be that hard.
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Just say, good. Yeah. Get ready to head out of town, do that for a little, and then do some other work in. In. In New Zealand, which is a place I've never been, which I'm really excited about.
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And.
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Oh, man, just. It's nice to. It's. I'm very lucky to be working at all. And I am, like, I have that feeling, you know. You know how you get. You tell yourself, you're like. When you're. When you're not working for a little bit, you're like, the next time I work, I'm going to be so thankful. And so. And so, like, on it. And so I'm going to be like, the best version of myself because I know what.
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It's been so long, and now I.
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Know what it means to not work. And now I'm working and it's like, oh, I can't. I can't wait. Like, I have felt that so hard since the year started. Like, you know, a call time could not be early enough for me. I am like, you're not gonna catch me.
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I love that. That's like, when you're reinvigorated about something. You know what I mean? It happens with, like, relationships, too, where you're like, all right, we're back. We're back at zero. This vacation really did. I'm not gonna get mad at you for, like, seven days.
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Yeah. You're, like, making the bed. When you leave in the morning, you're like, this will go far.
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Like, yeah, this is a new behavior. This is who I am now.
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Yeah.
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I'm gonna do this every day.
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I'm very, like, on a high of feeling employed, which, as an actor is like.
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And January. January is the time when it starts to hit the hardest, because not a lot of work happens in November and December, and we know it every year. That's what happens. And. But it still starts to get a little long in the tooth. And then when. January, you're back, and then you're like, all right, I'm back. It's January 4th. Like, no one's really back in the office till January 11th. You're like, oh, okay, cool.
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Oh, yeah. Then you're like, like. And you're like, start till February.
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It's. And then. Well, back in the day, at least they would always be like, once. It's not until Sundance is anything happening.
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Yeah.
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You're like, all right. So it goes from Thanksgiving to Sunday.
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I'd be like, one of the Oscars.
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When the Oscars are done, we'll.
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We'll figure it out.
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But. So now is, like, the perfect time for when something hits to be like, oh, thank God. Because this is, like the. The traditional long stretch of nothing coming in. This is where you start to feel it in the checking account, where you're like, well, I didn't do any work in December.
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Oh, completely. Completely. Could not. It all hit at the right time. And I just, like, am. Am so thankful to be doing something, you know, that's. That's.
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I just got seven new subscribers on my. On my Wiki feed page. So, you know, I feel. I'm feeling something similar.
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Well, so you're making. You're making as much as I am.
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Yeah, I know. I'm making more than this podcast.
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Well, we should also say I don't. You know, I'm out. Toot my own horn. I. We work hard. Esquire mentioned us.
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Yes.
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As one of the top podcasts of the year.
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Top newest podcast. A top new podcast of 2025, which is sort of a big deal, you know?
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You know.
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Yeah. I mean, we're right below. Good. Hang with Amy Polar.
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I would say right below.
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I would. But not to, like, someone who worked in the industry, because, like, I'm staring up at.
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Underneath her.
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We're getting in trouble. For the same thing we did 20 years.
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Yeah, she's still yelling at me about looking up underneath her.
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Stop. Get out from underneath the stage, you freak.
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Adam, quit playing a plumber.
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Well, let me take a look at what you got going on here, sweetheart.
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Adam, you can't do another scene where you're looking under the hood of a car.
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Oh, you think so?
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You want to bet?
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Aim.
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I'll build a career on it. No, it was that. That was awesome. I think that the.
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The.
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Again, like, the coolest thing about that is just that someone heard it, right? Like, there's so much out there, and the fact that someone heard it and, like, click to it and, you know, like, that. That is something I didn't even think about when I. When we first started, I was saying how much I hated doing it. Like, never would. I think that, like, someone would come up and be like, I love your. Your podcast. Help me. Like, I. Like what?
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That's.
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Yeah.
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That's insane.
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I've been impressed with how many of our peers listen. Like, I get from a lot of friends of ours, they're like, oh, yeah, you know, I throw. And I know that vibe, too, because I'll listen to friends. Podcasts that I don't. You know, that maybe I've guessed it on once as, like, a way to just be like, oh, it's nice to catch up with these two friends of mine, you know? So, yeah, and it's fun to hear. People are like, yeah. And then I get some ideas. You know, you guys are good about talking about this. And I'm like, oh, okay, sick. And that feels. That feels really good. And then when you find out some. Some rando who writes at Esquire, it listens.
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Whose job it is to listen to podcasts.
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Yeah. And then he writes about it. And then we're like, here we are, dude.
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Yeah, that was really cool. So I could. I could do a little Howard Stern. Read my own email on that one. That was really awesome.
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That was you and you.
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I'm dying to hear. I need to hear every inch of. Of your Eat Pray love.
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I. Yeah, my. Eat Pray ablo I speak. Yeah, Well, I was taking Spanish classes.
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They were probably like, this guy doesn't shut up.
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No, they were like, that. Dude. I had, like. I had one of those, like, corny, like, cliche, like, white guy left the country and like, changed his life kind of things. I. I had the fucking time of my life. I was there for two weeks.
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I.
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It was actually way more work here. Step one. Perfect for this Pod. I was there for two weeks.
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And so where you went to Mexico?
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I went to a little surf town in Mexico and I didn't gain weight in the two weeks I was there. It is.
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Bless you. But that was good.
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Oh, that felt awesome. It was just below coming. I remember an episode of Friends they describe like an orgasm as like a sneeze, but better. And I was like, oh, I kind of, when I was like a kid, I was like, oh yeah, that might. That. That's right.
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Who did that? The monkey.
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Marcel's line. Was that why I was like, oh, that's why. That's why my garbage can's full of tissues. Not because Rachel. Not. Not because Rachel. They keep the studio so cold that you see Aniston's nipples.
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She was always getting something from the.
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Fridge and I'm like, what is she keeping in that freezer as an acting choice?
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They'd be like, okay, so we're going to block to the left. She'd be like, well. And it's like, I think this is an apropos time for me to get leftover turkey.
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Well, I think, I think if we're going to, if we're going to blame anyone, I bet you it might have been the producer's idea.
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Oh yeah, I don't think blame Aniston.
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And of course in this scene you're not wearing a bra and you're fixing the AC because it's way too cold in there. What.
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So this, this vacation in quotes ended up being so much more work than I thought it was gonna be. And not in a bad way, but like I was surfing every day at 7 in the morning. So we had to be. We had to meet in the lobby at 6:30. So I'm up at 6:00am, 5:30am every single day. I have two different 90 minute Spanish classes after surfing and then I have homework for both of those classes. I was tired and drained. Like my brain was fucking drained every day from just.
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Do they have a tv? Were you watching TV at all? Were you on your.
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No, I had no tv. I would, I would cry. I would. I fell asleep before 10pm like five nights a week. I was fucking rocked. But I still had an amazing time. I got to go to a lot of beaches, do a lot of fun. Like shit. My Spanish got. My surfing got a little Better. My Spanish got way better. I became like a kind of surprising no. 1. I became kind of like a mascot because, like, I was twice this. Like, all the surf instructors, look, I don't want to stereotype Mexican people, but they are not traditionally tall. So when I was down there, I was this fucking monster white guy in a fucking Speedo and they're like, with my toenails painted. I blew all their little, like, machismo. Little guy mines. Like, all these guys were like five foot five and I'm £300 in a bikini. Yeah, I was. We're calling me the Gringo Grande. The Oso. The Oso del the. The Bear of the Ocean Taco Liberty Belt.
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Why has he got that big crack?
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Yeah, pull it. Tell him to pull his drawers up.
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Oh, but that must have been. But also, like, I've. I've become a mascot on trips like that. It's like, it's also heartwarming because you're, you're.
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I'm a professional entertainer. Like, yeah, if the half the laughs I'm getting are at me, I'm still winning. You know what I mean? Like, I like, I love. I want people to laugh. So I was. And so I got. Got really good at Spanish. And here's another cool part of the program. Other. Other random solo travelers who are there over the holidays. They're going to be. I'm going to have something slightly in common with people who chose to do this. You know what I mean? Where you're like, oh, I'm a freak. Oh, so is this person that is here doing the same thing as me? So that was very cool. And I met a bunch of cool people. I spent Christmas Day with like a, like, literally like a 1990s joke. It was like a Muslim guy, a Hindu guy, a Jewish girl and Kiwi and myself having Christmas Day lunch in a lady's front yard where she made us tacos and we sat on like, patio furniture. And this was a restaurant, but it was like in a, like, woman's front. Yeah, the food was fucking, like, amazing. The food was. Everything was like a charming little weird place where you're like, I ate sushi in a place that was like sand on the ground and a guy and just like a Asian guy in a truck cutting it up. It was like. And the food was great everywhere. It's a little beach town that is a tourist location for Mexican people throughout the country. So it's like, got a different vibe where it's very touristy but not very gringo heavy or international. Heavy. Oh. And then the highlight was I met all these cool people in the program. One of the people on the second week, they moved to a. A homestay and stayed with a Mexican family. And she was like, john, you need to come, because you speak. I spoke the best Spanish in, like, in the program. And they were like, john, you need to come, because they're having a baby shower, and I can't understand what anyone's saying, and I. I just need someone here to help me, like, connect with the family that I'm staying with. I'm like, yeah, I'll come by this baby shower. I end up getting fucking hammered with, like, all these tos, like, all these old dudes, all the uncles.
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You got uncle energy.
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I was. I just immediately was. They were like, you want a little mezcal from, like, an unlabeled bottle? They're like, my cousin made this. I was like, all right, let's go. Yeah. And I'm like, let's fucking go. I am speaking, like, fluent Spanish, and I'm getting drunker and drunker, and at one moment, I look over, and I'm like, I, like, come into myself, and I'm standing up and all of. And I'm speaking Spanish and, like, making fun of myself. And I'm like, the more and more drunk, I get the Massimo, you know? And I'm, like, talking about. And I look around, everyone is laughing. My friend who invited me is looking at me like, what the is going on? And someone's like, what's your name again? I'm like, it's John. And they go, john. They're, like, making fun of my American accent. They're like, John. It's John. No. 2 at ACE. Juan Lopez.
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And they started.
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They started calling me Juan Lopez.
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Why the Lopez?
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I have no idea. I don't know. The reference. It. Maybe it's a reference, like, George Lopez.
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Maybe.
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Maybe they only knew that comedy. Like, I have no idea why I became one size. Yeah. I mean, I got the Lopez cabeza, that's for sure. They were like, you have to come back for New Year's. And I was like, sure. And I told my friend, I'm like, I'm not coming back for New Year's. I don't want to bother these people. And then she's like, they've asked about you every day since you left. You have to come. So I went to New Year's Eve with this family. They cooked dinner. We played games to, like, four in the morning, all in Spanish. Like, we did the pinata we did lottery, which is their bit, which is bingo. We played all these games. We, like tied balloons to your feet and tried to pop them off. Everyone, everyone was from like ages, like 6 to like 70. And I'm just there and they're like. And I brought a case of Corona on my shoulder when I walked in. And they were like, juan Lopez. And I'm like, one Lopez is keeping, you know, like, just go and fucking ape shit. And I had like the like New Year's Eve. I felt like was my unofficial final exam of Spanish class. And like, I just showed up at this house party where everyone knew me as just like this giant, loud American. And I wore like Hawaiian shirts every day. And they were like, juan Lopez is here. Juan Lopez. They, like, pranked me and they got.
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Me to use like, Hawaiian shirts in Mexico.
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I know, dude. I. They were like, you have. Your shirts have so many colors. I'm like, I know, brother. They like, pranked me. They like said, oh, go, you can use the outdoor toilet. And I went to go use the outdoor toilet and the lights went off. And then when I peed, they heard me trying to figure out how to flush it. There is no flush. You pour a bucket of water in after you piss. So they were like laughing their ass off. It's like, oh, it's like the country, huh, city boy? This is very Mexican of you. Very rural. And they were like roasting me. And so then I, later on, I went in there and got them back. I came back out and I go, what happens if you do a numero dose? Like, knowing that knowing it doesn't much. They were like, what? And I was like, ah. And they were all like. And when I left, like, the man of the house who was hosting was like, gave me a hug, and he's like, I'll miss you, Juan Lopez.
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Dude, you have got to write a show where you. You are Juan Lopez.
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I got it. I want to do it. I want to play. I want to. Because now my Spanish was so strong when I came back and took my Spanish class here, America, that I do every week. He was like, wow, you're so much more confident. I'm like, I just spent two weeks in like intensive Spanish class. It was, it was a lot. And like, I'm not used to doing that. I had. The joke I kept making was like, you know, my real life is easier than this vacation is. Like, I do less work on a day to day basis in my real life than I'm doing here while I'm on In Mexico on vacation.
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Well, dude, I'm glad. And so what's. So what's the what, what, what? How does your soul feel like? What, what. What are. Where are you, you coming back? Have you come back and been like, I, I feel rested and rejuvenated or are you coming back and you're like, I'm leaving Los Angeles and moving to Mexico and that's where my future is.
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I'm splitting the diff between the two. I, I'm definitely something like an expression that came to my mind when I was down in Mexico. Like one day I was just like, ate a little mushroom gummy and went to the beach alone and watched the sunset. And I thought this phrase to myself and I'm gonna use it as like my mantra from here on out. And one of my mantras and it was, this is what money is for. And I was like, this, I don't care about houses or clothes. Like, it just came to me where I was just like, this is worth working hard for to just so now. And also meeting all these other people who are like, like digital nomads or like, I lived in Rio for six months and worked for my work from my laptop, you know, like all these people had like. And some of them were European or British, so they had like, you know, 12 weeks of holiday a year and they fill it. They're like, yeah, like the, the, the dude I met who is like a Syrian political refugee, is like, I'm leaving from here to go to Medellin and then Bogota and then this, that. And I'm like, I'm like, how long are you on holiday? He's like, well, I'm doing holiday for like two weeks. Then I have to do three days of work from this hotel that has good wi fi and then that'll bridge me to another trip, like vacation. I'm like, oh. Everyone that I met was like building their lives around getting to travel in their downtime. And I'm like, that it was inspirational in a way. I'm like, I have to remember that. I have to remember also, the trip meant so much to me and I really enjoyed it so much. But having the trip on the horizon as, you know, as someone who likes to travel, that made the last couple of months of 2025 go a little smoother, where I'm like, I'm going on a two week Mexico sojourn, you know. And so having these trips hanging over your head in the, in the positive way is like, I think it's important for me at least I'm learning this. Like, I'm motivated by the idea of I get to travel. And then I'm also motivated post travel by like, yeah, I can't believe how cool that was. You know, I got to do that again. And so, like, I'm motivated. I want to surf way more this summer here. I want to go back to Mexico specifically, but also I want to travel to a bunch of different Spanish language countries and keep it up. And as a guy who, like, loves the beach with Central and South America and Mexico, I can, you know, hit a lot of countries.
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So where's next on your. On your fuck it list?
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I think on my fucking list. Next up is like, Galapagos for like, some marine bio energy, like some snorkel. Some snorkeling, some environmentalism, like, learning about seeing all the crazy animals over there. Some snorkeling, some scuba. So. And then, you know, I also want to hike Machu Picchu in Peru. I want to do like a bougie version of that where, you know, like, you, like, you hike to, like, hot tubs and yurts in between.
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I would do that.
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Yeah. Like, I just like that. Yeah, you hike. Upcoming guests of the podcast. Sean Clements did that for his honeymoon. And I was like, he told me the place and I was like, that sounds awesome. You, like, hike, you know, X amount of hours throughout the day, and then that night when you show up, there's like, they start cooking dinner and then you have like a yurt that you can crash in. And like, I was like. And there's like hot tubs. And I was like, oh, that sounds awesome.
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I could do that.
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And then, you know, like, that feel. And like, I guess if I'm in Peru, not to keep pulling from our guests, but I'll take a page out of Elna Baker's book and fucking, you.
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Know.
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Eat a poison frog or some shit.
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Hell yeah.
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Shoot a needle full of fucking hallucinogenics into my forehead or whatever.
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Well, dude, you are, you are the bravest. The bravest, most open dude I know, as always. And just, just, just living, living a. In a reality like that is so different than, like, when you, when you look on Instagram, you see people who are like, I took two weeks and I'm in Barcelona and I'm in Amsterdam and, you know, I'm trying to get down to, To Lisbon or whatever. This is not that. This is like, I'm immersing myself in a singular culture and it's more meditative.
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You know, it's really cool. And Like, I also, like, again, I don't know if this is, like, corny to say, but, like, Mexican culture and, like, vibes line up a lot with, like, stuff I like, you know what I mean? Like, and it was just like, oh, I. I fit in, like, spiritually. I felt down there, where I'm like, I. I. The vibes were in my wheel, especially. I mean, I'm also in a beach town, so I'm getting, like, a specific vibe of Mexico. And so it's like, this was. It was so in my wheelhouse, and I was there for just long enough to have, like, a favorite cafe and a favorite, like, I. Oh, I also. I went to one of those wooden weights gyms that's in the sand where you get, like, the big, like, fun dump, dumb dumbbells and shit. And it was kind of, like the most, like, whack version of one. Like, it was clearly like a tourist trap, but it worked on me, and I got to, like, lift weights in the fucking sand with, like, beach. Yeah, yeah. No, but the. You ever see him, like, it's like.
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A prison gym where you put, like.
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You put, like, rocks in a basket and then pull the bar down and shit like that. Like, there's, like, rocks, coconuts, and they have one.
A
Actually, I was. When I was in Miami a couple weeks ago.
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That makes sense.
A
I was on my run, and I ran, actually. But I remember where we filmed on that little. Where we. Where we were sitting. Where we were rollerblading and we sitting in south beach. And so I was, like, running by there. And that. That is totally different now. It's, like, all built up, and they have, like, a crude but bougie sand gym.
B
Yeah, I think I remember that from when we went there.
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Like, I feel really nice, though.
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People, they built it out more.
A
Yeah, well, it's like, the stones you're talking about, like, clearly expensive. And it's like they have, like, a log thing where you. Or like, a tire that you flip in the sand. And like.
B
Hell, yeah.
A
It's just, like, thing. It's like, you know, an outdoor equinox.
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Fuck, yeah. Yeah, I love it. My. My gym here and. Oh, and that was the other thing. I. You know, I didn't put on any weight in the two weeks there because I was, like, so active. And I also zepbound was helping, and I wasn't fucking, like, gorging myself every night on tacos. I was just eating plenty, but not too much. And when I came back, I was, like, so motivated to, like, keep getting in Shape that since I got back, which is now like two full weeks ago, I've been at the gym like, or doing fitness almost every single day. I'm like on a fucking tear, dude.
A
Yeah, that's amazing.
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I'm seeing better numbers on the scale. I'm at the gym. You know, one of the things people say when you're on the glp, one is to make sure you gotta get resistance training because you could lose muscle mass with the calorie deficit as well. So I'm making a conscious effort to, you know, keep, keep lifting and stuff. And I'm, I'm feeling great.
A
I'm feeling yourself?
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Yeah, yeah, I'm. I'm fully feeling myself. I mean, granted, my birthday is in two weeks and I'll turn 44. And then if I don't have like work or haven't heard back about any this job that I'm waiting to hear back about, I. It could the whole thing swing the other direction. But I know, I feel like I'm trying to. I'm trying to. I'm literally trying to.
A
We'll talk about your birthday now, but I feel like before we get into that, I would say that you seem more. The foundation feels stronger than ever before.
B
I feel. I feel that way as well. I feel that way as well.
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A
But let's talk about your birthday real quick. First we have to apologize. I have to apologize on the fact.
B
That we have to apologize in this together.
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Yes, but it, it, it by means.
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We shouldn't have come for Jasmine Crockett like that so much like. Much like Las Culturistas. We have to apologize as well.
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I like this other man.
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Well, you know what? I don't even want to get into it because I might actually agree with them politically. Like, Talarico seems like he has a better chance of winning. But I'm not going to be the guy who's going to know the room. I'm not going to be out there. That's the thing I was thinking about.
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Love you boys, but know the room.
B
I couldn't believe. Like, I mean, that just goes to show you their, like, reach where they like, say something like that. And it's like, meanwhile, like on our podcast, we're like, you know, like, bomb the PJs or whatever, shoot private jets out of the sky and. But no one's even listening, so it feels okay.
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Kyle Gass sends us a dm. Love that episode.
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So about, we wanted to apologize because.
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We'Re not able to make it to San Francisco for Gabriel's birthday and our show at Sketchfest. But Gabriel's is still going to turn 44.
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I'm still going to turn 44. As a matter of fact, I'm still going to perform at Sketch Fest. It'll just be with, it'll be with other shows. I'll be doing Joel's stand up show. I'll be doing some other improv shows that weekend. That's the 30th and 31st. So if you're in the San Francisco area, check it out. But we really want to apologize for, to those of you who already bought tickets, I'm, I'm a positive you're getting a refund. It wasn't a we, we weren't doing a rug pull.
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And thank you so much. Sending me to New Zealand.
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Yeah, thank you. Sold all these tickets, bought a trip to New Zealand and then rug pull. You guys, it was our crypto coin.
A
Is it true that the toilets flush backwards?
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I don't know. I don't flush anymore.
A
You didn't flush once when you were there?
B
No, I, I, I, I guess I didn't notice, but I definitely flushed a lot when I was there. I was eating a lot of like, do.
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Because I want to know if there's a moment in the air where, where.
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It switches, where they're like, you cannot use the toilet for the next six minutes because we are out over the prime meridian or whatever.
A
Next thing you know, I'm like, yeah. What?
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Spray shoots straight up. It's like the gravitational pull is reversed here. I get shot spraying diarrhea out of the air New Zealand toilet. Like, I'm Dave.
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Matthew Van Tour bus.
B
I. I found. But when I was in New Zealand, a guy said something. A PA was taking us around for the day on a day off. We hired him to give us a tour, and we went to lunch and he goes, do you notice how nothing on this menu says the word organic? And we were like, oh, yeah. And he's like, that's because everything is organic here. We don't have to write it down. I was like, that's so cool. It's so casual to tell that to LA people who are like, I wonder if this lettuce is organic. And they're like, we don't even have non organic. Is this.
A
Is this cabbage had free range.
B
I hate to see caged cabbage.
A
Excuse me, where did you capture this cauliflower?
B
Is this wild caught cauliflower?
A
I told you. One time I went to dinner with Fran Drescher and she was like. I was like, what time should I meet you? And she goes, magic hour.
B
And I was like, okay, okay. That means, like, let me. Let me check with the dp.
A
So I went to. I met her at Nobu in Malibu. And we're eating. We're starting to eat, and the waiter comes around, and it was no joke, the conversation. And I was just like. I started to laugh at one point, and she's like, you can laugh all you want. I'm still gonna ask the questions. And they. It was literally like, was this salmon cotton and that. Did someone use their hands?
B
Did we get.
A
Is the tuna. The kind of tuna that's going extinct? Is this. By the time we. The waiter was like, I don't know, Fran. Treasure.
B
And by the way, magic hour is over. It's dark. You guys missed it. Yeah, you guys missed it.
A
Oh, man. But you're. You're. You're.
B
So. We're sorry. To San Francisco.
A
We're sorry.
B
Yeah. And we. We will try to get more live shows on the calendar later on in the.
A
That's something that we're actively working on. And. And you know what? If you guys. Because we don't like to engage with our fans because we're scared, but I would say, like, if. If you guys live in a city and you're like, oh, yeah, you guys should come here. We would love to hear which city that is.
B
Yeah, drop that.
A
You know.
B
You know what? Drop it. Drop it in the comments on Instagram and YouTube. And we would love to hear that. And also we would love to point to our bosses at Smartless and say.
A
Like, this is where we want to go on tour.
B
Because I do think they really like us.
A
I do think that we would, I would love to come out and see everybod. I feel like that would be.
B
I would love. That's the fun. The real phrasing of that is so funny. Like, I would love to come out there so everyone could see me.
E
Yeah.
B
It's what we really mean. We would love for you to be able to see us. And.
A
Well, don't you think that through a.
B
One way mirror that we can then leave through one way.
A
I would love to come and pick you out of a lineup. Don't you think that that give me.
B
That, Give me the pressure.
A
Don't you think though that entertainers, like, that's part of the, the whole like delusion that we need to exist and live. It's like if you, if you're, if you, if you lose a little of that delu. Delusion of like. Well, my job is to make people laugh. Like. Yeah, if you lose that, then it really does just become. My job is to earn claps and laughter.
B
Right, Right.
A
And that is sad. Right? It can't just be that.
B
It can be.
A
No, no, no, no.
B
It can't just, brother. It just might be. And you gotta hope for laughs. Not even guaranteed. Why?
A
So it's just, it's. All of this is just a need for. All of this is just a need for me, for me to it be seen.
B
Yeah. I mean, I feel like specifically with staying alive, this is our like little bit of a hack to just stay in touch to get serious exams, underwrite, underwrite. You and I talking every week.
A
Yeah, but also, but also it's a, it's a, it's a microcosm for the entire industry and the entire job that we do. Right. It's like. And is this really all there is?
B
Yeah, dude, I don't know. Well, that's what I'm saying. Like what it really is, is like get this money and make experiences out of it. Or luckily enough, sometimes the gig is the experience. Like we got to travel the country for 101 places. We got. You're going to New Zealand, a place you've never been before for work. And like, that's really exciting. While we're all tying in staying alive, I'm just noticing this is a Henbo original that I'm wearing.
A
Oh, sick.
B
A former guest of the podcast and mine and Adam's favor, tattoo artist Himbo Henning. I'm rocking his, his designed hoodie. I Get a lot of compliments on it too.
A
His. He, you know, he continues. He's one of the guests that I. That, that is so interesting because like his portfolio has continued to grow. The. Like we had him on as the coolest tattoo artist in New York and since then he has. His clothing line is blown up, his band is on fire. Like, it's like he is doing a lot.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm jealous. I'm fudgeing jealous. I want to. I want to fucking kill him.
A
Soon that'll be me wearing his face.
B
Someday I'll be wearing his face. I'll fucking come. Is he a big fat fat lady?
A
I want you to tattoo your face under mine. Would you tattoo me?
B
I'd tattoo me.
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B
I'm going to Chicago next week with the do. I mean by the time this airs, I'll have just been in Chicago for a week with the doughboys.
A
Oh, wrecks.
B
Send them. Send them our way. Send them my way for sure.
A
Are you. Are the doughboys going to treat for like, are you a big meal? Because it is. Alinea is worth Alinea. It's just the fun. Most fun. It's like. It's like a food is a show type meal.
B
Yeah.
A
You know, but it hits on every dish, on every level, on every experience, every part of it hits and like you leave there drunk and stuffed in the most amazing way. That's the place that gave me the Prosciutto.
B
The to go prosciutto.
A
Yeah, Just from mentioning. Casually mentioning it. They had it for me at the end. Like, it's that. It's the. It's the type of place where like.
B
An eleven Madison park, like, energy type.
A
Deal, where it's like someone's like, oh, I like pizza, and someone's done the research about it, and they run out and gave.
B
It's like, cousin, we got to get him pizza. Cousin.
A
It's that type of shit, but, like. But not cliche. It's. It's awesome.
B
Oh, that's fucking sick.
A
And then on the low, and then that's like, high, high, high. And then there's just like, so many Chicago places that are just. Oh, God.
B
We have to. We have to eat at, like, chains for the podcast, too. So having one good meal that isn't, like, Red Hot City or whatever, you.
A
Know, like, Portillo, what chains are you gonna do?
B
They haven't announced it yet, so I don't know. I. I'm. I'm in for a penny, in for a pound. Yeah, they'll probably be, like, more local. Last time we were there, we did Portillo's. Excuse me. And something else. I forget. What else do they count? Like, the beat is, we did Lumal.
A
Okay, so they Chicago chain, right?
B
Yeah, like, hyperlocal chains work, too, if there's a bunch of them especially.
A
Okay, so you might get, like, a Vienna beef.
B
Oh, yeah, Like a wiener circle. Yeah, I would like to. I've never been to the wiener circle. I'd like to go in there and get my. And get lit. Lit up. Like I said, I don't mind being a fudgeing mascot. I don't mind being the clown.
A
I wore my glasses in there because I knew it was, like, going to see.
B
I better wear my glasses. So they make fun of me for having glasses and not being Jewish.
A
Exactly.
C
100%.
A
It was like, it's like going to see Don Rickles. I was like, like, let's put this thing on so that they don't go at my voice.
B
It makes my nose look smaller.
A
Truly. And, like, right away I walked in, they were like, oh, four eyes, look at those Coke cans. And I was like, yes, that's me. That's me. Old dorkus over here.
B
Our old friend and improv teacher Billy Merritt told me a story. One time he went to go see Don Rickles live, and he was waiting in line, and they came up and they were like, sir, would you like to be upgraded to VIP section free Drinks, blah, blah, blah. And Billy was like, oh, amazing. And he sat down in the row that they placed him, and he looked down, and it was like a Chinese guy, a tall guy, and he was like, oh, my God. And he's like, I'm the fat guy. And he didn't realize. He was just like, oh, VIP upgrade. And he realized they were just in the Target audio. Like, they were like. Like ringers.
A
And when Billy got to Billy slowly taking out a pair of glass.
B
Yeah, like a huge fairback. Billy. Billy said that Rickles joke was really funny. He said. He goes, what's your name, pal? Tiny. And he goes, no, it's actually Billy. He goes, same thing, Guy. My. My algorithm took a turn from the horny. And there. I get a lot of Rickles stuff now. I get a lot of. Because I. Because I obviously have been watching a lot of, like, roast stuff. Obviously, but not obviously. I've always liked the roast shit. I've been getting so much Rickles stuff, and I was just like, before bed last night, way later than I should be up, just like a half hour of super stoned Don Rickles jokes in bed.
A
Did you get. Did you get. He has this one appearance that I just watched recently that I love so much. It's. It's one of his later. It's one of his later appearances with Letterman. It's like Letterman and him, and then someone else is on the couch. I don't know. But I just watched it, and it's just a killer story.
B
There's one that I really like. That's Letterman. And Denzel is the other guy.
A
Yes, that's. Yes.
B
Yeah. So I actually know this bit because Letterman stutters just a little bit. Letterman goes like. Well, and he goes. And Rickles cuts him off. He's like. He's like, this guy's 20 million viewers been on air for 10 years, and all you got is, blah, blah. You're sitting here with real stars. And he, like, pulls. He's, like, connecting himself to Denzel. Like, you got a couple of real stars here, and you sitting over there going, b, b, b, b, B. And he's like, annihilating Letterman. And you could tell Letterman is loving it and a little mad that he did, like, actually fumble. And when they widen out to Denzel, Denzel is losing it, laughing. It's like, that must have been so funny.
A
Oh, my God. Yeah. That is an amazing clip. I also.
B
I think Rickles really pops hard in these times after he does Casino, because then he's constantly roasting Just like the Rat Pack. Like, he was so famous for roasting Frank and all those guys. Guys. And they loved him for it. Now when he. Now he has, like, De Niro and Marty Scorsese and whoever else from Casino his jokes are, he can do like, the same amount, like, the same, like, anti mafia jokes.
A
The one that I saw, he tells this story. He's like, I was in. He's like, it was like 1950, whatever. We were in at the Sands, and I'm with this broad, and I'm trying to show it, you know, like, I'm a big show showbiz guy. And so I say, excuse me, honey, I'm gonna go to the bathroom for a second. And he walks up and he's. And I know Frank is at the. At the bar drinking a martini. So I go over to Frank and I say, hey, Frank, do me a favor. When you turn around, you call, you say, hey, Don, come over here. Make a big deal of it. You know, bring me over the table. I'll come over. I'm with this broad. I'm trying to show off. Frank goes, I got you done. No problem. Comes back from the bathroom, he sits down, puts the napkin back on his waist. All of a sudden, hey, Don, it's Frank. Hey, how are you? Come over here. Why you come. Don stands up and goes, ah, Frank, would you leave me alone? So good.
B
He's so good. Oh, man, he's the best.
A
All the best.
B
While we're just saying random asides about, how did you see Marty supreme, by any chance? Oh, yeah, yeah. Did you enjoy it? I felt like when I was watching it, I'm like, this is so fun I'm having. Because it's like. It's like the previous Safdie stuff, but with the stakes being table tennis changes. Like, it makes it so funny to me. Like, all the same intensity around it, but it's just like, about playing in a ping pong. In an unsanctioned ping pong match, which.
A
Is so fucked up. I. I went to see Mario supreme on Christmas day with my kids. And I've never laughed at an ending scene more. Do I burst with the.
B
With the needle drop too?
A
Like, it hits so thing hysterically. And my kids looked at me. They were like, what are you. What. What are you laughing at? And the. The. It was filled with old people in the, you know, thing.
B
And.
A
And I. It was like I was the only one laughing about it. And I was like, how is this not the funniest ending ever written in the entire world?
B
I, I was lo. I. That's so funny. You say I laughing. The needle drop on top of, like, Marty chooses to become a dad. You know what I mean?
A
It was, like, just so perfect. And he played it. He, his reaction was amazing. It was, like, so perfectly written. I, I love that. I, I loved, I liked, I like the. I think there are three great movies this year. Sinners, One Battle After Another and Marty Supreme.
B
Agreed. And I would throw the 28 years later from the beginning, last year's 2025I'm.
A
Not a zombie guy scares me.
B
Okay, that's fair. I just saw that. I just saw Bone Temple, the sequel, this weekend, too. And both really fun, but that other one, I would throw in my list of one battle after another. Biggest laugh I've ever had in the theater this year was when they're. Well, that, that, that I laughed at, but that was more like, Benicio is beautiful. Like, he's the, he's a genius. The thing that got me the biggest laugh was, was when they're escaping along the roof with the, with the skateboarders, and the skateboarders look so cool in the silhouette, and Leo is, like, stumbling, and then he falls off the roof out of nowhere. And it looks so the, the stunt is so good. I'm losing it laughing. And then when they call Benicio, they're like, yo, your friend fell off the roof. It's like, such a funny vibe, dude.
A
I, I, I love Viva Revolution.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
And I love when Benicio goes, hey, get off the GI Man.
B
Well, the whole thing is really fun. That whole segment is like, Sensei is trying to get Bob to safety. Bob is super stressed and overwhelmed. But because he's. Bob is like this minor revolutionary. But the whole time that Sensei is helping him, Sensei is doing, like, the real revolutionary, anti, like, rebellious work of, of like, I've kind of got this Latino Harriet Tubman thing going on. And he's got, like, he's, like, escorting people, saving people's lives, but he's also in charge of Bob, who's, like, spiraling. And it's just this really funny, like, juxtaposition of the two guys where Bob is like, I need to rescue my daughter. I, like, I'm caught up in this. And Benicio's like, don't worry, I got you. But he's doing way more actual work for the cause. Yeah, it's such a funny play, man. Yeah, yeah. Then the, the white leading man. Yeah, it's such a funny man. The sensei was one of the coolest characters. I'm going to rewatch that tonight.
A
Sensei is. Is the greatest, one of the best characters of all time. And I thought Sean Pen was great and Tiana Taylor. I mean there is a lot of. You know, there is a. For both movies. Marty and one battle after another. They're not unanimously loved this year A lot.
B
I don't think anything ever will be as again. You don't think so it's like cuz it's just.
A
You don't think they'll ever be like a Titanic?
B
Well, the money is in detracting. You know what I mean? Like the, like the, the clout, the attention, the. The re getting reblogged or retweeted or reposted that all that juice is in being a contrarian these days.
A
Right.
B
I mean like they'll always be someone who's like actually it'll benefit me to on the Titanic. And of course like box office will like destroy like the idea of like no one likes this, but people will still come for it.
A
Well, but that's what I really don't understand because like all three of those movies that we mentioned I think were successes and all labeled failures by the industry.
B
Yeah, well like they make up the metric. They make up the metric. You know what I mean? It's like, well, this movie costs $600 million. I'm like really? Why not make it for a little less?
A
Well, yeah, but like. And like Sinners I thought like, I thought we. Everyone was like there's a huge hit and then an article comes out like Enormous failure player. Yeah, like really? I thought I made. I thought it was like a huge hit. And then same thing with Marty Supreme. It's like, you know, I feel like.
B
They use like this movie should have made way more. And you're like the industry is different now if it's makes. If it makes its money back.
A
And also I gotta tell you, you can't get a ticket for Marty Supreme. Still here?
B
Yeah.
A
In New York.
B
Oh yeah. I imagine in New York I. Because I traveled for those two weeks I was so stressed about missing movies that I started saw Avatar 3 the day before I left and then I saw Marty supreme the day I landed because I was like, I got to see these fucking movies before I get. They get spoiled for me. Avatar 3, dude, I don't want to.
A
See Avatar 3 till Avatar 4 comes out.
B
Smart. I saw Avatar 3 with some buds and we took a big dose of mushrooms and went to 3D IMAX at the Chinese theater here.
A
Did it have the rhyme rumbles?
B
No, no, it's the. I was at tcl, like, that old theater where the premieres are. It was so fucking awesome. I was tripping balls. At one point, I thought a character was gonna reach out of the screen. Well, their hand came forward, like, in 3D style, and I was like, whoa. And then I thought they were gonna grab somebody out of the audience and pull them into the movie. I was so high as.
A
That brings me to two things. We also. There are two rips we should do that we've missed in our thing. Two major rips.
B
Okay, let's hit it. Rob Reiner C. And Bob Weir.
A
Bob Weir.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
Those are, like, the two of, like, the founding fathers of your personality.
A
My brain.
B
Yeah. Yeah, they're on the Mount Pali. More of, like, your personality.
A
Mount Pally took a hit this week.
B
Yeah, dude. America, you know, the world took a hit.
A
If anything happens to Sandler, we're done.
B
I'm out. Yeah, I'm out. Please protect Jack Black at all costs. Please get Black in the bunker, baby. I'm watching all the press for Anaconda, which I haven't seen. I'm watching all the press, and I'm like, this is, like, me and Adam.
A
Oh, it is. It does feel that way watching Paul and Jack do Anaconda Francis, like, watching us do press for a podcast. Like, just the. The pay scale is, like, so warped.
B
Yeah, the scale is way off, but they're having the exact amount of fun.
A
As a matter of fact.
B
Oh, I got to see. I'm a.
A
You know, me and I. Me and Cole saw it. I didn't take a bunch of mushrooms, but I was, you know, in my own normal state, and I found myself again, like, you know, there was packed theater, and it's Upper west side, you know, so people are, like, inclined to not like Anaconda. And I found myself laughing at everything.
B
That's so fun. That's so awesome. I want to see it. Like, I, I, I. I love Steve Zahn, too. I'm. You know, he's a killer.
A
He's a killer. But Jack really is the heart. I mean, there's a scene when Jack was running out of the. With a big head, a pig set on his head, and it's just the funniest. It's like the funniest run I've ever seen in my life.
B
He's got the juice. I rewatched School of Rock recently, and I'm like, fuck, this guy is a fucking. He's got. Got it. Yeah.
A
He's the greatest. Someone was telling me last night that, that they, that they met him and that he was just like that in person.
B
He really is that.
A
And I, I, I've met him a couple times. I don't remember the flare of it, but someone was, like, telling me that he, that they were like, oh, where do I go to get this? And he's like, you take two scooches down the hall.
B
Yeah.
A
You know, and you're like, Whoa, cool.
B
Like, 20 years ago, 15 years ago, I placed. He hosted the Spike TV Video Game Awards when I was writing on it. And we did a bit where I played his stunt double because he. So, like, I come out and I'm like, it's me, Jack Black. I'm the host of the show and I do all this stuff. And then a toilet flushes over the intercom, and he comes out and he's dressed exactly the same. I have, like, a Tiger on Fire shirt and, like, board shorts or whatever. And he comes out and he goes like, thanks a lot, Rick. I'll take it, I'll take it back over. And just takes over. But there was a moment when we're backstage and we're dressed exactly the same and we're standing next to each other, and he goes, okay, I see it now. You do look a little bit like me. And during the strike, I was doing this, like, fundraiser for crew show down in downtown LA that Marta Kaufman was putting on. And Jack was also doing it. We were doing, like, a number one where we're doing Magic Mike. And it was just like, me, him, Jason Alexander, and, like, a bunch of people you don't want to see do Magic Mike. So it was like. Or, you know, a lot of people do, but not traditional male figures. So I tell, I'm like, jack, I'm so sorry to bother you, but I just want to say, like, 15 years ago, I played your stunt double. Do you remember when you were hosting it? He's like, oh, my God. Yeah, I kind of remember that. And I was like. And so he's like, we should do it again. We should do something like that again. He's like, we should do our own Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. And I was. That would be really fun. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, imagine. And then for, like, the next 10 minutes, while we're waiting to figure out our blocking and shit, he's like, riffing what this movie would be starring the two of us. And I'm like, I'm like, jack, I don't think you realize that I, I fudgeing need that like.
A
Give it, give it a month and he'll need it.
B
Yeah, well he. Then he comes out and he's in Minecraft.
C
Yeah.
A
But you'll see he still needs to be cool and relax. Event.
B
Hey, we all do, brother.
A
Yeah, don't, don't.
B
We don't remind.
A
Please God. Please God.
B
Well, we got a lot of episodes coming up still. We're gonna re air some like director's cut episodes. We're gonna do some comp episodes where we'll chop together some info from a few different episodes so that you can get a gist on this or whatever. We've got a few more episodes in the can that have yet to be released that we are previously recorded that people should be hyped about. About. And then is there anything else I'm forgetting? Adam, I'm giving you such an opportunity here. Stay alive.
A
You know, I would like to say first of all that that was not giving me an opportunity. Because by saying you're giving me an opportunity, you know something I don't. You know you're going to end it.
B
Well, I, you, you, we, you knew. You knew we were eventually going to end the episode.
A
Yeah, but I didn't know it was going to be be at that moment because we. I just didn't. I was unaware.
B
Yeah.
A
So it wasn't an opportunity as much as, as well.
B
Now what you've done is reestablish the new ending of the episode so that previous thing that I just said is no longer the ending. So it's up for grabs now.
A
You did give me too long. You knew that I was going to do that and you gave me too long. I don't even want it. I don't even want it. That was just a nice gesture.
B
You.
A
I do want it back.
B
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Episode: Eat Pray Hablo (Catch-up Special)
Podcast: Staying Alive
Hosts: Jon Gabrus & Adam Pally
Network: SmartLess Media
Date: January 29, 2026
In this lively and candid catch-up episode, Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally reconnect remotely and swap updates on their personal and professional lives, including Adam’s upcoming travel and Jon’s transformative “Eat Pray Love” style trip to a surf town in Mexico—dubbed by Jon as his "Eat Pray Hablo" adventure. The two reflect on gratitude for work, their podcast’s recognition, the value of traveling for self-growth, and the absurdities and joys of show business. The episode is filled with humor, self-deprecation, stories of cultural immersion, movie banter, and the ongoing search for meaning and motivation in middle age.
[06:45–17:17] Jon dives deep into his two-week solo trip to a small surf town, blending surf, intensive Spanish classes, and personal growth.
The tone is irreverent, self-deprecating, honest, and “grossly forthcoming,” with a mix of heartfelt sincerity and trademark comedic riffing. Gabrus and Pally aren’t afraid to go deep on gratitude, vulnerability, and goals, but always circle back to humor, banter, and showbiz absurdity.
This catch-up special brings listeners inside the raw, real friendship between two comedians trying (with mixed results!) to live better and find meaning as middle-aged professional entertainers. With stories that range from Mexico to New Zealand, deep gratitude for simple things, and an eagerness to keep learning and laughing, it’s a perfect representation of the Staying Alive ethos. If you haven’t listened, this episode will get you up to speed, make you laugh out loud, and maybe inspire your own “Eat Pray Hablo” moment.
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