Opening Lids & Inner Kids (w/ Casey Wilson)

Summary

Staying Alive – "Opening Lids & Inner Kids" (with Casey Wilson)

Podcast: Staying Alive with Jon Gabrus & Adam Pally
Host Network: SmartLess Media
Air Date: November 13, 2025
Guest: Casey Wilson
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Episode Overview

This lively and hilarious episode welcomes comedian and actress Casey Wilson, best known for "Happy Endings," "Bitch Sesh," and countless more. Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally, true to the ethos of "Staying Alive," dive deep with Casey into their not-so-glamorous but always honest approaches to health, wellness, aging, mental health, and all manner of bodily maintenance. The trio share stories about skincare, gym routines (and resistance to them), therapy (including psychedelic treatments), and plenty of showbiz and personal anecdotes, all shot through with their irreverent banter and willingness to be "grossly forthcoming."

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Skincare Mishaps and Maintenance (00:00–06:00)

• Casey arrives straight from her dermatologist, sporting recent laser burns and wounds from various cosmetic treatments. The gang riffs on the things they endure for skin "maintenance" as they age.
• Jon casually reveals his improbably hairless body. Casey and Adam roast him ("First of all, how hairless you are is insane." – Adam, 00:50).
• The three reflect on the all-consuming demands of skincare and the weird places it takes them ("Turns out we have skin all over our body." – Jon, 00:30).

2. The Podcast’s Health and Wellness "Conceit" (06:30–10:30)

• Casey asks, "I don't know the conceit. You said something about health." (06:30)
• The conceit: unhealthy/mentally unwell hosts asking friends, "What are you doing to stay alive?"
• A confessional parade of medications and supplements, with Adam referencing his "six meds" and Jon outlining his "pile of pills" ("I can take a pile of pills in my hand, throw back like 12 at once..." – Jon, 07:33).
• The group debates the murky efficacy of vitamins and the sometimes placebo-esque hope of wellness routines.

3. Aging, Ego, and the Allure of Vanity (10:30–14:20)

• The hosts and Casey muse on how perceptions of age shift as they get older, and whether, given unlimited money, they’d keep working creatively or disappear.
• "If I'm answering that honestly, the number of dollars it would take for no one to see me again is not as high as you would think." – Jon (12:25)
• Casey reflects: "Even five years ago, I’d have been like, 'I love my craft.' Now I'm like, I wouldn't do one thing." (13:11)
• They joke about showbiz's late-in-life "breakout" stories being not-so-late, actually—e.g., Bryan Cranston and Melissa McCarthy.

4. Physical Activity: Battle Stories & Reluctance (15:55–17:37, 24:54–26:37)

• Casey admits to playing tennis as her major cardio, saying she does weights "once a week" and is otherwise "so lazy" (16:14).
• The Oura ring saga: Casey’s wearable tech is so alarmed by her inactivity, it practically calls for help. "Are you okay? 200 ambulance inbound, literally." (16:39)
• Adam scoffs at quantifying wellness: "I know I’ve been sitting too long because when I stand up, I get lightheaded." (17:22)

5. Women's vs Men’s Wellness Rituals (29:24–31:05)

• The hypocrisy of judging women for cosmetic maintenance is skewered—men accept cold plunges and supplement stacks, but sneer at elaborate skincare.
• "Women just have to spend tens of thousands and multi hours, and a guy’s walking into a cold plunge." – Casey (30:11)
• Men’s "wellness" as just another form of self-care and self-obsession.

6. Cosmetic Procedures: Open Book (26:37–29:24)

• Casey details her regular "barbaric" treatments: blood infusions into her face, salmon sperm injections, laser for scars, peels, and burns.
• "Today she took my blood and infused it into my face...then she injected salmon sperm." (26:40)
• Jokes about men joining in: "I know I'm gonna get something done, I know it." – Adam (28:21)
• "Women fucking have to do this stuff. I'm glad men are starting to do it!" – Casey (28:17)

7. Psychedelic & Ketamine Therapy: Mental Health Epic (31:37–41:18)

• In one of the episode’s highlights, Jon recounts his guided mushroom therapy session (35:09) involving a psychedelic journey where he met his "inner children"—a deeply transformative experience:
  • "I met my inner children ... three versions of myself in my childhood basement. It felt like a sitcom." – Jon (35:34)
  • He describes providing advice to his 12- and 5-year-old selves, feeling their emotions, and walking away with actionable self-care wisdom.
• Casey and Adam open up about their experiences with ketamine therapy:
  • "It’s helped me so much." – Casey (34:32)
  • They detail the therapeutic setup: eye masks, olfactory cues, guided introspection.
  • The crew riffs on the oddness of doing these sessions in a condo, with garbage trucks rolling by.

8. Moderation, Substance Use, and Getting Older (43:23–45:59)

• Casey admits drinking less: "I want to, but I just like, feel bad." (43:28)
• The preference is for rare, blowout nights, not casual drinks. All three reflect on alcohol/weed as coping or creative tools, and how their relationships have shifted.
  • "Weed helped me get off alcohol hard." – Jon (45:09)
  • Adam only uses a vape, aware that even small amounts now can render him useless for hours.

9. The Absurdity of Longevity Culture & Biohacking (49:04–52:54)

• The group mock-ponders billionaire wellness extremes: testosterone, jiu jitsu, controversial anti-aging protocols.
• References to crazy "longevity influencers," those measuring "grip strength and boners," and exchanging blood with their children.
• "He recycles the son's blood, puts it in his..." – Adam (51:02)
• "To me, an IV is like, crazy. Although I do get them quite a bit." – Casey (51:41)
• IV therapy anecdotes: Casey gets Benadryl-laced IV drips, recounting groggy, pleasure-filled after-effects, nicknamed "the Cosby" by her doc ("You can't say that. Sorry. We can’t call it that." – Casey, 52:35).

10. Housewives, Scandal, and Comedy as Self-Preservation (53:29–end)

• Casey plugs her podcast "Bitch Sesh" and the trio deconstructs recent wild scandals on "Real Housewives of Salt Lake City."
• "Any housewife worth their salt has been arrested. If you haven't, do better." – Casey (55:38)
• Reflections on how Housewives drama is more about crime and darkness than mere catfight TV.
• The conversation loops through inside jokes, stories of tennis rivalries, and unfiltered friendship moments that round out the show.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the podcast’s premise:
  "We're sort of a health and wellness podcast hosted by physically unhealthy and mentally unwell people. Guess which one of us is which. Trick question." – Jon (06:35)
• On supplement overload:
  "You take a vitamin...you piss 99% of it out." – Adam (07:50)
• On physical decline:
  "Now I'm 43. And I'm like, honestly, 60 is a good time to do asscat." – Jon (11:04)
• On high-tech health tracking:
  "My Oura ring was like, are you okay? 200 ambulance inbound, literally.” – Casey (16:39)
• On gendered beauty maintenance:
  "Women just have to spend tens and tens of thousands of dollars in multi hours and a guy's walking into a cold plunge." – Casey (30:11)
• Psychedelic therapy revelation:
  "I met my inner children ... three versions of myself in my childhood basement...It was like a multi-cam with me and two younger versions of myself." – Jon (35:34)
  "You can do whatever you want." – Jon to his childhood self (37:17)
• On substance adjustment with age:
  "I know getting older because I really want to [drink] but I just feel bad." – Casey (43:28)
• On billionaire wellness:
  "We should be concerned that all the billionaires in the world are like, yes, I spend every day taking stuff to make me stronger and I learn jiu jitsu..." – Jon (49:12)
• On Housewives criminality:
  "Any housewife worth their salt has been arrested. If you haven’t, do better." – Casey (55:38)
• Casey’s comedy as brutal honesty:
  "Can I be honest? With you as like a true, true friend who loves you...You could be Matt Damon if you lost, like, 30 pounds." – Casey (62:44)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:00–06:00: Dermatologist tales & skincare comedy
• 06:30: Show’s health/wellness premise explained
• 10:30: Age, ego, and Hollywood breakouts
• 15:55: Casey’s exercise (tennis & minimal weights)
• 16:39: Wearable tech interventions (“Are you OK?”)
• 24:54–26:37: Casey’s cosmetic treatments ("salmon sperm" etc.)
• 29:24–31:05: The gender divide in wellness routines
• 31:37–41:18: Psychedelic and ketamine therapy, Jon's inner child story
• 43:23–45:59: Substance moderation, alcohol and weed with age
• 49:04–52:54: Billionaire health hacks, IV infusions, Cosby anecdote
• 53:29–56:09: Real Housewives breakdown and comedic crime recaps
• 62:44: Casey’s brutally honest "Matt Damon" story (plane anecdote)

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Tone and Flow

The episode is consistently irreverent, playful, and open-hearted—each topic, no matter how heavy or gross, is handled with vulnerability but always layered in humor. Banter and tangents abound, making the conversation feel like a genuine hangout among old friends with shared wounds and wisdom.

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Final Thoughts

For fans and newcomers alike, this episode offers a hilarious but poignant look at the trials of midlife—cosmetic, corporeal, creative, and emotional. Whether discussing the weird rituals of Hollywood health or the profound outcomes of psychedelic therapy, the group never shies from honesty or laughter.

Recommended for: Fans of authentic conversations about aging, wellness, therapy, and the subtle indignities of staying alive. Plus: great pop culture and Real Housewives gossip.

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Transcript

[John Gabriel]

Smart.

[Casey Wilson]

Less medium. Guys. It's ripped raw that I have multiple needle marks that I. She only let me put a dot or something on.

[Adam Pally]

What does that.

[Casey Wilson]

It's. A lot's going wrong.

[Adam Pally]

You can't tell.

[Casey Wilson]

Burns here. Can't wear a bra. It's not Burns here. Not what I want.

[John Gabriel]

Wait, how did you end up getting burns here? Is that.

[Casey Wilson]

Well, because I'm good carrying my skincare down now. Camera's at my age.

[John Gabriel]

Turns out we have skin all over.

[Adam Pally]

Our body like you.

[Casey Wilson]

You're showing a nice fe. So that's why we need.

[Adam Pally]

But Gabriel is built like a seal.

[John Gabriel]

I'm hairless.

[Adam Pally]

Smooth.

[Casey Wilson]

You have a nice tan.

[John Gabriel]

Oh, I'm always pretty tan.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. He's. I think you tan.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah. Well, here's. This is what I'm proud of.

[Adam Pally]

That's wild.

[Casey Wilson]

That is.

[Adam Pally]

That is wild. First of all, how hairless you are is insane.

[Casey Wilson]

A serious dude.

[Adam Pally]

Overexposed.

[Casey Wilson]

One million followers.

[John Gabriel]

Decent overexposure.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I'm so excited and thankful that our next guest is coming because she's coming straight from the dermatologist.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah. Which I would imagine she has to do a lot because this woman is put together.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Yeah. Or maybe not because her skin is porcelain and flawless. I don't know what she'd rather. Yeah.

[John Gabriel]

All I know is that she looks gorgeous. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

She's a smoke show and she's fucking hysterical. And she's one of the funniest people alive. One of my best friends. Probably the. The other. If they're. If. If like my phone had the people that I talk to the most, it would be like, Daniela, you and Casey. Yeah. Would be on there.

[John Gabriel]

Anthony Tamanik, Probably.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Well, no, he'd be the one that I ignore the most.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah. He's the one that I could potentially have talked to.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. But I'm like, I'll get back here.

[John Gabriel]

90 minute phone call another day.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. I don't have an hour and a half to stroll around the block.

[John Gabriel]

But this is so fun for Happy Endings Freaks of which I. But getting the fucking band back together a little bit. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabriel]

And also I guess we can say Bake Off Freaks.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. I mean, if anyone liked the Bake Off. I can't wait to talk to Casey about that experience because it was truly tense and wild and it's. It's not an easy thing to do. That Bake off show. You are put. Pushed to your limits.

[John Gabriel]

Oh, God.

[Adam Pally]

Pushed to your limits.

[John Gabriel]

Well, without further adieu, we got Casey motherfucking Wilson.

[Adam Pally]

How are you?

[Casey Wilson]

I'M good.

[John Gabriel]

Isn't it crazy? I have no ass hair or body hair. Yes, I really want it. I have, like, neck up hair, but I have all this is it. I never shaved my chest. Not since Nassau County Swim Champs 2000. But do you think that's what you did?

[Casey Wilson]

No, I remember.

[John Gabriel]

You remember that I kept sending you photos?

[Casey Wilson]

I know.

[John Gabriel]

And that was hard because we didn't have digital cameras.

[Casey Wilson]

I know. And I didn't know you.

[Adam Pally]

Wait, wait. Were you guys. Were you guys. I distinctly remember doing an improv show. I feel like for a student show that you were both in. You were both in the same class, and it was like, I got put into that show because my class was different. It was like the documentary form, I think.

[John Gabriel]

Was it possible to take the Billy Merritt class? Yes. Yes.

[Casey Wilson]

With Nate. Do you remember that guy? Nate?

[John Gabriel]

Nate Lang.

[Casey Wilson]

Nate Lang. I was in love with Nate Lang. And he would always be like, I can't hang out tonight. But it was so embarrassing. I would throw myself at him over.

[John Gabriel]

And over and over, over and over.

[Casey Wilson]

And then I'm like, telling June. I was like, he's gay. She's like, did he you that? I go, no. I'm like. But it was obvious. Now he's, like, married to a woman.

[Adam Pally]

It's not that now he's married to a woman.

[Casey Wilson]

I just. He, like, wasn't dating in it, so that's the story I was telling myself. I'm like, obviously he's too scared to come out.

[John Gabriel]

This chick doesn't like me. Probably a lesbian. Yeah. That's the most toxic masculinity point of view ever.

[Casey Wilson]

But a woman's just sad. A musical theater girl.

[Adam Pally]

It was just been. There's a lot of trauma, I guess.

[John Gabriel]

Jess, I'm in love with another gay man.

[Casey Wilson]

It really is such a sad.

[Adam Pally]

Did you have a lot of gay boyfriends?

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, obviously.

[Adam Pally]

Really?

[John Gabriel]

I feel like I never. I keep saying, you go to put those headset on, but you don't.

[Adam Pally]

We don't have to. We don't put them on my headset.

[Casey Wilson]

Have we started?

[John Gabriel]

Yeah, we're almost done.

[Casey Wilson]

We're rolling.

[John Gabriel]

We are so great for your takeoff. All right, we'll see you over now.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, it's airing now. And Halloween specials out.

[John Gabriel]

Nate Lang.

[Casey Wilson]

Adam's on it.

[Adam Pally]

Nate Lang calling my name. But you had a lot of gay boyfriends.

[Casey Wilson]

So we are in.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, we're in. Okay, we're in.

[John Gabriel]

But you could also tell us to not put anything.

[Casey Wilson]

No. And I'm just laughing so hard because when I Did a podcast without him. He kept being like, let's just start. And I was like, I. I'm like, you know, I was like, I think we'll introduce the guest. But I see now you found your perfect partner.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabriel]

Just kind of sometimes easier to let him do what he wants to do.

[Casey Wilson]

I started having to do it, but.

[John Gabriel]

Or else you have to, like, over explain yourself every time. You're just like.

[Casey Wilson]

Just like.

[John Gabriel]

You know what? I didn't think about how fun it would be for me and Casey to be talking about.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Yeah, I didn't either. I. That's not.

[Casey Wilson]

But we were on Zoom, so we had to look at his guitar room.

[John Gabriel]

Well, that beats. Because you were recording a podcast.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[John Gabriel]

If you do Zoom meetings with him, he plays the guitar during them. Conan o', Brien.

[Casey Wilson]

He played during the podcast too. Obviously. It was so embarrassing.

[John Gabriel]

This is like when your high school friends hang out with your college friends, and they know both phases of you, and you're like, no, don't let him front. He shit his pants senior year.

[Adam Pally]

But both of you are like, yeah, junior year, too. He fans.

[John Gabriel]

Really?

[Adam Pally]

All the time.

[Casey Wilson]

Then one of you is like, he's changed a little bit. Then. Not really. It's like you're a bachelor party. Oh, my God.

[Adam Pally]

Someone said, I grew up. They're like, you grew up a lot. I was like, I'm wearing a suit.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Like, it's not.

[Casey Wilson]

It's not gonna change.

[Adam Pally]

No.

[Casey Wilson]

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[Adam Pally]

Yeah, yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

But I'm happy to be on this one. I don't know the conceit. You said something about health.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah. We're sort of a health and wellness podcast hosted by physically unhealthy and mentally unwell people. Guess which one of us is which. Trick question.

[Casey Wilson]

Or both. Yeah. A lot of overlap.

[Adam Pally]

We ask one question to the guests.

[Casey Wilson]

Okay.

[Adam Pally]

And we don't necessarily do it up top or in the bottom. It's just like, what are you doing? To stay alive. Like, what?

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, that's nice.

[Adam Pally]

And that's it. And we go through there. Like, for me, it's like my medication is like, pretty extensive.

[Casey Wilson]

Right. How old are you on?

[Adam Pally]

I'm 43.

[Casey Wilson]

43 cocktails? 23 medications?

[Adam Pally]

No. How many medications?

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, six.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, wow.

[John Gabriel]

I'm on three pills, but one of the pills has got two different things in it. So I'm on four. And my.

[Casey Wilson]

I'm on four as well. I'm not judging with.

[John Gabriel]

My supplements are through the roof, though. I'm taking like all kinds of shit.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Oh, that didn't count.

[Casey Wilson]

My supplement.

[John Gabriel]

See, I'm too much of an old school, like, muscle and fitness magazine guy from the 90s where I'm like, are.

[Casey Wilson]

You on like creatine and stuff?

[John Gabriel]

Of course I can take a pile of pills in my hand. Looks like a fuck. Like, I could do that.

[Casey Wilson]

Like horse pills?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I could do that.

[John Gabriel]

I'm like a hero now. I like, throw back like 12 at once and my big ass vitamin C horse pill is the only one that ever gets stuck.

[Casey Wilson]

I feel like that is healthy.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Well, I mean, who knows? I mean, like the whole thing with all this shit is like, no one knows. You take a vitamin. You can ask the doctor. Like, is that good? They're like, you piss 99% of it out. So you're like, I don't know if it's.

[John Gabriel]

But I save all my piss.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, you drink your piss and then you.

[Casey Wilson]

Yep. Put it in your face and. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Dry land is a myth.

[Casey Wilson]

Did your guys moms love Renee Russo as much as mine did my dad?

[Adam Pally]

Well, my dad.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, my dad. Yeah, like, Renee Russo was like a.

[Adam Pally]

Renee Russo way of being an officer. Was actually one of the women my dad revealed to us when he was here that he had. This won't shock you at all, but my dad had. In his office at work, in his doctor's office, on the bookshelf that could only face him, he had a collage of goddesses.

[John Gabriel]

He called them Juliana Margulies.

[Adam Pally]

No, Juliana Margulies.

[Casey Wilson]

Just for inspiration.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. He said he would like to look at them during the day.

[John Gabriel]

But that's like.

[Casey Wilson]

Was your mom on there?

[Adam Pally]

No, my mom was not on that wall.

[John Gabriel]

She was.

[Casey Wilson]

She was working for him in the front.

[Adam Pally]

Working in the front and peppered throughout the rest. But the goddess wall was for him.

[Casey Wilson]

That was just for him.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabriel]

That's really funny because it is like the cute version of like the mechanic shop that has like a Playboy machine. But he's like, he has Juliana Margulies and, like, Scrubs.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, he had Julianna Margulies. It was like. It was like, half creepy and half gay man. Like, because it was like, Julianna Margulies and then it was like Bette Midler on the gypsy thing in Barbra Streisand. And there's like, Rene Russo and, like, in Thomas Crown Affair, like, a drama.

[John Gabriel]

Teacher had the same three people.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah. That's so cute.

[Adam Pally]

It was really cute.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[John Gabriel]

Renee Russo was very interesting actor of her era because she was one of those absolutely magnificently beautiful women who was considered normal looking and how. You know what I mean?

[Casey Wilson]

Right?

[John Gabriel]

It's like, we got to get, like, Renee Russo. Whoa. She's like, surprisingly right.

[Casey Wilson]

Enough so that our dads were like, I could get her.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

You absolutely could not.

[Adam Pally]

Pierce Brosnan was chasing her around, stealing paintings to impress her.

[John Gabriel]

God, she. And she. She.

[Casey Wilson]

Kevin Gosner's trying to win a golf tournament.

[Adam Pally]

Let's not forget Thomas Crown was trying to have an affair.

[John Gabriel]

She is so hot that in Nightcrawler, where she's like an older woman with Jake Gyllenhaal.

[Casey Wilson]

How dare you? But that's nice, Gabriel. You're like, even when she's 45, that's.

[Adam Pally]

How high she is.

[John Gabriel]

No, she was, like, 60 in that. And she's still ripping.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, I bet she is hot.

[John Gabriel]

She's hot. Oh, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

She's smoking it. She was in a bikini in that Thomas Crown affair, and she was like, 50.

[John Gabriel]

I'll never forget. Wait, how old is she? The movie came out.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, I thought she was a bit younger.

[Adam Pally]

I think so. Pierce Brosnan was.

[John Gabriel]

She wasn't young. She wasn't like.

[Adam Pally]

That was like that.

[Casey Wilson]

Well, that was another thing that everyone liked about her.

[Adam Pally]

She was like an older one, our age again. She's 42 again. She's younger than me now.

[John Gabriel]

Oh, dude. What's really crazy being in my mid-40s now is when you're like. There's someone's like, he. Like a character is old and they're 37 or something. And you're like, I'm gonna swallow a fucking bullet.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah. And in our, like, child mind's eye, you're like, oh, they're so old. And then it's like, no, they're 10 years younger.

[John Gabriel]

45 was, like, the oldest age I could imagine when I was, like, 19. Couldn't imagine. And then you meet someone doing comedy, and they're like, I'm 41. You're like, kill yourself.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[John Gabriel]

Now I'm 43. And I'm like, honestly, 60 is a good time to do ass. Cat.

[Adam Pally]

Maybe. Maybe I need to work out my br.

[John Gabriel]

I'm in my mid-40s. Should I start a twitch stream where I play video games? Something I'm genuinely considering. Life. It sucks.

[Casey Wilson]

But maybe that's gonna keep you alive.

[Adam Pally]

Who knows? Creatively, yes, that's true.

[John Gabriel]

Well, honestly, that's a huge facet we haven't really dove into is of staying alive. Like, for some of us who need to feel creative. Yes, that will help me stay alive.

[Casey Wilson]

It will.

[Adam Pally]

I don't know about that. That seems like a long justification to.

[Casey Wilson]

Play video games if you guys had so much money. Okay, you're billionaires. Are you acting? Creative work?

[John Gabriel]

No.

[Adam Pally]

Yes. Yes. I think that's where our egos are different. Yes, I think I am. But it's total vanity. It's, like, legit self.

[Casey Wilson]

More so than your imagine.

[John Gabriel]

Imagine Adam finally got into vanity.

[Adam Pally]

No, it's like, even more. It's like.

[Casey Wilson]

It's like a leaner in life.

[Adam Pally]

Fashion model vanity with money. It's like I'm doing, like, bio biopics of, like. No, of, like, people that I would. You're playing yourself. Like, I would play people. It's like JFK Jr. Starring me in the biopic.

[John Gabriel]

You know, it'd be like.

[Adam Pally]

Like, really wild. You know what I mean? Like, and it would just be like an ad. It would be like when Kim Jong Un makes movie movies.

[Casey Wilson]

Yes. Yes.

[John Gabriel]

I think if. If I'm answering that question honestly, the number. The. The number of dollars I would need in my checking account that no one would ever see me again is, like, not as high as you would think.

[Casey Wilson]

Okay.

[John Gabriel]

If I get 205 grand, I think I might just leave.

[Adam Pally]

Is it over a million you don't see anymore? Is it over a million?

[John Gabriel]

Yeah, it's gotta be. I think just so I can make the economy up. Yeah. I got, like, eight more years left. I just need money to want to do it.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[John Gabriel]

But I think if I had a unlimited amount of money, I would just make action movies starring myself.

[Casey Wilson]

I feel like you would still do a podcast.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah, I can't stop talking.

[Casey Wilson]

Just do it to be funny. I do think you would. You'd be like, ah, from my.

[Adam Pally]

You've been doing this so long. Even pot, you're, like, podcasted out. I feel like you'd be done.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

What would it take for you? What's your.

[Casey Wilson]

I don't think it, like, even five years ago, I've been Like, I love my craft. I'll be doing everything. Literally. Now I'm like, I wouldn't do one thing.

[John Gabriel]

Well, we're starting a gofundme to get you to quit Hollywood.

[Casey Wilson]

They want me to. They're like, she's still kicking around thinking she's going to be Renee Russo.

[John Gabriel]

I do see a new r sitcom.

[Adam Pally]

Renee russo is such a brutal third act.

[Casey Wilson]

So brutal. Well, you know, when you've been in the business, you and I have had this cartoon, and it's sad. I'm sorry to say it. You know how we're like, so many years, you and I will be like, well, this one got their break pretty late.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

Like, that'll be us. And then it's like, I don't have any more examples.

[Adam Pally]

The amount of times someone has said to me, like, bryan cranston, look. Bryan cranston turned it around. Late age. And then you, like, go and look at it. You're like, he was 46.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

And had, like, started.

[Adam Pally]

And he had billions of dollars in syndication money.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah. It's like, I like, no, same with Melissa McCarthy. I'm like, she came out of nowhere. And then I'm like, she was a lead on Gilmore Girls. Okay.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. And that. And had enough money from syndication on Gilmore girls, which is, like, on 22 episodes a year. Like, it's a whole different. Whole different.

[Casey Wilson]

Honestly, it's criminal. They didn't give her jokes on that show. I just wanted. Just putting that out there. That's just one thing. Food for thought.

[John Gabriel]

They're one of the funniest people alive on their show.

[Casey Wilson]

She was like, here's some baked goods. And then would just walk out.

[Adam Pally]

I wonder if there are takes. There are, like, takes of her, like, doing a fall or something, but cutting up. And palomino is then, like, running in with, like, a giant hat on and, like, scolding her.

[Casey Wilson]

How dare you?

[John Gabriel]

Palomino the horse.

[Adam Pally]

Well, Lauren palmino rides in on pal.

[Casey Wilson]

Paladino.

[John Gabriel]

On a Paladino.

[Adam Pally]

Palladino rides in on paladin.

[Casey Wilson]

Wonderful writer. Big hats on wonderful writer paladino. I'm available.

[Adam Pally]

She's not going to paladin. I'm Jewish.

[John Gabriel]

All my favorite stuff that I always wanted to do was I wanted to play, like, cops and soldiers and action heroes, and that's, like, cartoonishly a young person's game. But then this genre of, like, dad action movies came around, like Liam Neeson and Bob Odenkur. Yeah. But now I'm that age also, and it's not. And I'm like, they need to create a new one where it's like. It's like a real old guy on a.

[Adam Pally]

He's like, seems young.

[John Gabriel]

He's on a respirator. His vibes are weird. He's like a weird solo uncle.

[Adam Pally]

He's, like, 45, and he wears Hawaiian shirts because, like, his responsibilities are low.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, but it's like, at this point, and I love everyone sitting at the table. It's like we're the friend at the bar of that guy.

[John Gabriel]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

We're not even close to that. We're not even close.

[John Gabriel]

I'm begging to be the guy who's like, Mr. Bond, here's your ticket to your car.

[Adam Pally]

Or whatever.

[John Gabriel]

You know, like, anything. Ticket to your car.

[Adam Pally]

Ticket to your car.

[John Gabriel]

She's got a ticket to car.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, God.

[John Gabriel]

Guess we play quick around a hot spot.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, my God. No. So are you working out?

[Casey Wilson]

Am I. I am. Well, I play tennis a lot.

[Adam Pally]

I know.

[Casey Wilson]

Are you genuinely asking?

[Adam Pally]

I am genuinely. You and David are like, I'm so envious that you have something together that you do physically. It must be nice.

[Casey Wilson]

Live ball. It's not like we're out there, but it's.

[Adam Pally]

You're out there playing tennis.

[Casey Wilson]

That's like.

[Adam Pally]

And that's your main cardio?

[Casey Wilson]

Well, I do weights. I try to do. What, Weights. You're going to be like, no. You don't like anyone watching? I do. I try, but it ends up being like, once a week. And I won't walk. I won't walk one step. Like, if someone's like, the walk downstairs, I'll find a way to sit. Always, like, I'm so lazy.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, I know.

[Casey Wilson]

My. I was wearing an aura ring, and it literally was like, I'm not even drinking. Are you okay?

[John Gabriel]

Yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

Like, 200ambulance inbound, literally. And they didn't even know my baseline. They were just like, Nobody would be like, this isn't.

[John Gabriel]

Please take ring off cadaver.

[Casey Wilson]

Sell it on.

[Adam Pally]

My dad gave me an O ring as a gift, so I tied it around the dog's leash.

[Casey Wilson]

That's really funny. That's really funny.

[Adam Pally]

I just can't. He was like, where? I just, like, can't. I don't want to know. I, I. I know what I'm doing. Like, I don't want to know all that information. I don't want to know. Like, oh, you've been sitting too long. I know, I know. I'll get up and I'll, like, fix it. Like, it's too much for me. I don't Want to know. I didn't sleep good. Like, I know, I know.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah, I know I've been sitting too long because when I stand up, I get lightheaded.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabriel]

I don't need an oura ring to tell me to move around. I have my body saying, is everything all right? As I staggered the band three.

[Casey Wilson]

I don't need a technology for that.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. The oura ring's gonna tell me pissing brown is bad. I know. I see it.

[John Gabriel]

I can hear how solid my piss is.

[Casey Wilson]

I know. I sleep bad. I've gone to multiple doctors pretending I go to the other ones to get ambient. Okay, I know.

[Adam Pally]

Yes, I know it's bad. I taste silver in the morning without anything. I taste silver. I know that's not good. The oring is going to be like too much ambient.

[Casey Wilson]

I know, I know. Oh, God. I know.

[Adam Pally]

I know. Like I really. But David wears one, doesn't he?

[Casey Wilson]

Oh my God. And it's. Nothing is more boring than someone who wants to tell you their stats. I'm like, you've got to stop.

[John Gabriel]

It's such a real thing.

[Casey Wilson]

Yes.

[John Gabriel]

You become one. Like the ring makes you like those.

[Casey Wilson]

Those trappings. But that's what it is good for. For that if you up that personality type.

[John Gabriel]

But there's an element of it too where for. It's one of those. When someone is on it all the time, you're like. And they telling you there's a. It hurts a little because you realize you're like, I have actually don't know what I'm doing with myself. And I'm like. And then especially with David, you're like, this dude is like handsome and buff. Like, give me the ring.

[Adam Pally]

Let me try that. How come it's giving for me? Give me the ring, handsome.

[Casey Wilson]

No, Adam, no. You gotta sing him. I'm. He's wearing cut off shirts. No, everyone has full six pack. No, no. Like he's wearing crop top.

[Adam Pally]

Crop top. Well, that's what you made it seem like.

[John Gabriel]

I was like, David's gonna school call. They don't want you to do pickup anymore.

[Adam Pally]

Captain crop top. You can't come to pick up anymore.

[Casey Wilson]

Can't do pickup. Act genuinely because the lane is too narrow for the horse Hummer. That's why I'm actually late because I had to park outside with his Hummer because it couldn't go under the.

[Adam Pally]

My favorite in the parking garage. My favorite thing. I love that we're getting in.

[Casey Wilson]

It's electric. I wanted to celebrate.

[Adam Pally]

I love that we're getting into David Kass. We're hitting him in his car stories because Casey, there's so many David Katz car stories. But the one where you had to drive his car to, he had a new car with a matte finish, which we all made fun of him about Mercury. He was one of our first friends that like was like, you know what? Instead of shiny.

[Casey Wilson]

That was so embarrassing.

[Adam Pally]

It's like, instead of shiny, this car's gonna be black.

[John Gabriel]

I'm gonna get one of those cars. That's so cool. It looks like it got taken out of the factory early. So you wanna do one last step? It's like, nope, give it to me now I'm driving it out. Primer color.

[Adam Pally]

Casey drove it to. And it got a lot of attention, you know. Cause it was like mad box. Casey drove it one night. She had to go get something for the kids to Walgreens or something.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, I forgot about this.

[John Gabriel]

I know this.

[Adam Pally]

And it's like Walgreens. It's like, you know, Walgreens late night, Los Angeles, Hollywood. And she parks and goes in and comes out and sees a bunch of people like looking at, just staring around the car.

[Casey Wilson]

And I just had couldn't take it out. I just had to get an Uber to pick me up and run, you know. You know what else I did because of that car?

[Adam Pally]

Wait.

[John Gabriel]

Just for listeners to wrap that story up. Because I love that you drove the car. People. You come out. It's too attention grabbing. People are looking at it. You Uber home and get the keys in there. Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Go get the car. Go get the car.

[Casey Wilson]

Driving away. I do the lock and it like beeps and they're like, also I have these diamond earrings is like the only nice thing I own from like 10 years ago. And they have like, I'm taking screw backs. But when LA started to go down, I go, I don't want when inevitably they're robbed me to be like, excuse me, wait. With a gun to my head. So I took them to just get them so they come off real quick. For literally when I am wrong, I.

[Adam Pally]

Don'T want to be like, hold on one second. I thought about this.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, no, I just want to quickly give them and let's all get off.

[Adam Pally]

No problem, boys.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, I don't want them to be like, she saw us for too long. Get it out.

[Adam Pally]

Literally.

[Casey Wilson]

I don't want them annoyed my nails.

[Adam Pally]

Can you, can you?

[John Gabriel]

No, that's happened to me. Every time I go to get mugged, I go, I know what this is. I just pull my pants down and.

[Adam Pally]

Turn around and go.

[John Gabriel]

Just get it over with fast. And they're like, what the fuck, man? I just went. And I'm like, oh, sorry. I am so sorry.

[Adam Pally]

I get it. You want me to suck your dick. No, I'm sorry. Get up.

[John Gabriel]

Yes, sir. Let me just pull your dick out. I got you.

[Adam Pally]

I'll make it easy for you.

[Casey Wilson]

They just leave. That's actually kind of a good technique. They're something. So opposite side.

[Adam Pally]

Just go.

[Casey Wilson]

I'd rather. Honestly, sir.

[Adam Pally]

There's the money.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah. No, no. Like, this guy doesn't have any money.

[John Gabriel]

He seems like he's just dying to suck somebody's dick. Listeners of this podcast know full well that Adam and I are GI Joes in that we have. We are fighting the war against our own GI TR tracks.

[Adam Pally]

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[John Gabriel]

No. Whether it's gas or, you know. You know, I'm not going to list what I'm going through.

[Adam Pally]

You don't have to list what's wrong with us. People can imagine.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah, people can imagine what we mean when we have some bathroom issues. You know, your gut is trying to tell you something. You know, this isn't something I've learned over the course of the show is you're there's something wrong your body's trying to tell you.

[Adam Pally]

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[John Gabriel]

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[Adam Pally]

Yeah, it's looking the right way.

[John Gabriel]

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[Adam Pally]

Yeah, that's. But it is interesting that you can turn your waste into wisdom.

[John Gabriel]

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[Adam Pally]

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[John Gabriel]

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[Casey Wilson]

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[Casey Wilson]

Hey, welcome into Walgreens. Hi there.

[Adam Pally]

Hey.

[Casey Wilson]

All right, hun. I'll grab the gift wrap cards and. Oh, those stuffed animals the girls want.

[Adam Pally]

Great.

[John Gabriel]

And I'll grab the string lights and some. How about I grab some cough drops?

[Adam Pally]

This is not just a quick trip to work. Walgreens.

[Casey Wilson]

I'm fine, honey.

[John Gabriel]

Well, just in case. You know what they say, tis the season. This is help staying healthy through the holidays.

[Adam Pally]

Walgreens. All right, so you're playing tennis.

[John Gabriel]

Playing tennis, lifting weights against your will once a week. It's.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah. But I'm also trying to do longevity stuff, which is sad too. I got this little grip thing off Amazon. Have you ever done to test your grip strength?

[Adam Pally]

And at night I did, but diet.

[John Gabriel]

I'm doing longevity stuff. And then I bought something off Amazon. Or like, the two most. Like, I'm talking to an aunt or an uncle right here.

[Casey Wilson]

Like I told you.

[John Gabriel]

They told you about this longevity stuff. You go on Amazon, you buy a gripper, you buy five extra years.

[Casey Wilson]

Well, this is Amy Poehler's podcast. And she was like, oh, you know, when we get older, it's like harder to get jars off. And it's like some big predictor of, like, how long you can live independently. So I got a little thing that just tests my grip strength.

[John Gabriel]

That tests your grip strength. You close and it gives you the pounds per square inch. Or. Or is it to work out?

[Casey Wilson]

To work it out?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I did buy the jaw thing. The cube that you chew to give you the fucking. To keep your jaw. To keep your. No, to keep your, like, second chin from growing.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, okay.

[Adam Pally]

Cause that's obviously gonna be a major problem.

[Casey Wilson]

Well, why don't you get like, the main thing I do to stay alive is everything. I mean, stay alive in my career is everything. You're seeing currently where I went today for three and a half hours and just get the wildest series of things done. It's like barbaric.

[Adam Pally]

I don't know if I Have the, like, pain tolerance for that. Truly. Like, I.

[Casey Wilson]

Well, they'll give you, like, a Valium, lack of gas, spike it in. Yeah, that's actually part of the fun.

[John Gabriel]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I would love this.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[John Gabriel]

Well, you know, staying alive is also for mental health. This is something that makes you feel better and makes your career go easier or makes you tackle the day better, be a better person, be a better mom, be a better whatever. Then it's, like, all fucking worth it, right?

[Casey Wilson]

It does. I love it.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah. So do you want to talk to us a little bit? About what? These treatments, or are they gatekeeping? What? You.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, my God.

[Adam Pally]

No.

[John Gabriel]

No one can know my cool tricks.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, my God, no, of course not. I mean, I do the normal things, you know? Today she took my blood and infused it into my face.

[Adam Pally]

That's totally normal.

[Casey Wilson]

And then she injected salmon sperm with a cantilever. A little thing that goes in. And then this is how long it is. It snakes through under your skin. And she puts it in multiple places.

[Adam Pally]

Does it feel good? No. Oh, I don't know. Sometimes those things feel kind of like.

[Casey Wilson]

Does it feel good? It's a needle this long that snakes from here. And she puts it in here, and you can feel it, like, here under your skin. Oh, no.

[Adam Pally]

I could say I thought it was giving me anxiety.

[Casey Wilson]

And then a filler where they put it in their skin, and then she cranks it like a. I don't even know.

[Adam Pally]

Like a palette expander?

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Gabriel]

Like a jack in the car.

[Adam Pally]

Like a car jack.

[Casey Wilson]

That's what she's jacking up.

[Adam Pally]

All of a sudden, Harrison Ford's like.

[Casey Wilson]

Right?

[John Gabriel]

Yeah. They just crank it in the back and it tightens his whole face up.

[Adam Pally]

Harrison Ford.

[Casey Wilson]

Awesome. Now, meanwhile, during all this, I have my top off because, of course, she's lasering.

[Adam Pally]

Was that just because you were like.

[Casey Wilson]

Just to have it.

[Adam Pally]

I was telling him about a bit that you used to do when you took your top off. So it's so funny that you're saying that, because I can imagine you walking into an office and being like, do.

[John Gabriel]

I take my top off now?

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, ma'. Am.

[Adam Pally]

No, this is a facial.

[Casey Wilson]

No, no, no, ma', am, please. No, please, ma'.

[John Gabriel]

Am.

[Casey Wilson]

No, no. We're doing some laser work on some scars that I may or may not have from, you know, a recent surgery and, you know, just peels, burns, everything. I love it. I mean, I don't love it. Women fucking have to do this stuff. And I'm gl. Men are starting to do it. And I'm so glad they're scrutiny now on men's plastic surgery.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

I love it. I'm like, yeah, that's terrible. You look awful.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, my God. I. That's. I haven't. I am so nervous because I know, like, I'm gonna get something done. I know it.

[John Gabriel]

There's.

[Adam Pally]

It's.

[Casey Wilson]

And look, every. It should be equal opportunity, but at the same time, I'm so tired of women being, like, scrutinized for their bad.

[Adam Pally]

That's what I'm saying.

[John Gabriel]

Do you want to tell us what you're gonna get done, or do you wanna pull everyone working on the show what they think you should?

[Adam Pally]

No, I.

[Casey Wilson]

That's a great idea.

[Adam Pally]

No, I.

[John Gabriel]

That would be really funny. Like, I'm gonna get it done. Right. Well, your nose, right, like, no. His eyes. No, it's gotta be his chief.

[Casey Wilson]

That is like, when you go to about 200, he's like, of course you're getting. No, no, no, sir.

[John Gabriel]

No.

[Adam Pally]

I don't know.

[John Gabriel]

Like, me at the gym, they're like, so you're trying to lose weight? I'm like, nope, trying to bench 300. They're like, what about.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, they're like, let's get the building blocks going.

[Adam Pally]

First things first. I can't imagine doing like, like, like, like, stuff stuff. But I can imagine as I get older, especially, like, my, like, my face.

[Casey Wilson]

When you do soft wave, you tuck it under or whatever.

[Adam Pally]

I can imagine being part of that.

[John Gabriel]

You've thrown, like, buzzwords in here so many times. I love it. You just do soft.

[Casey Wilson]

We just quickly do an old fair.

[Adam Pally]

I can see myself. I can see myself.

[John Gabriel]

I love jargon being part of.

[Casey Wilson]

If one woman is listening to this, which I highly doubt, she would know what I'm talking about.

[Adam Pally]

That's not true. Anne is our editor.

[John Gabriel]

Anne's the talent producer.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, whatever. Ann is the talent producer.

[John Gabriel]

I do. I mean, men do. A lot of people do this, but I think men do, like, a sauna and cold plunge and then go crazy. When a woman has a crazy face routine, they're like, oh, what are you gonna lazy your face tonight? You're gonn wear that weird mask that January Jones is always doing online. You're like, and. But then dudes are like, why I have to do sauna cold plunge protocol.

[Adam Pally]

And that's like, do a lift and do a pump.

[John Gabriel]

It's like, all the same. Like, that's. It's.

[Casey Wilson]

Or watch all these reels about guys lifting weights.

[John Gabriel]

It's all the same shit. Guys do the Same thing. It's just like a slightly alternative path that manages.

[Casey Wilson]

It's the same stuff. Women just have to spend tens and tens of thousands of dollars in multi hours and a guy's walking into a cold plunge.

[Adam Pally]

But it doesn't not. It doesn't have the same effect on every guy. I've walked into a lot of cold plunges. I still look like a drowned cadaver. I'm working out so much.

[Casey Wilson]

You look great.

[Adam Pally]

It's crazy how shitty I look.

[Casey Wilson]

No, you look okay. You. You must lift.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, he's.

[Casey Wilson]

He's great.

[Adam Pally]

He's on a journey. I feel like I am on quite the journey. I feel like I am, I'm retaining, I'm maintaining like some level of like decency. And I've never. I'm not like bigger or small. I'm just like right in the pocket.

[Casey Wilson]

That's great.

[Adam Pally]

It's. It's five. I have to work out five days a week of like real, real hard exercise. And if I don't, it's like, that's.

[John Gabriel]

The scary thing about being our age. It's just like, you do feel like they're like, I'm trying so hard to just stave off to stay in a.

[Casey Wilson]

Way other women would be like, eek.

[Adam Pally]

No. Because like, even these last three days, like being in la, I haven't worked out. I've been doing press and then meeting people for drinks and stuff. And like.

[Casey Wilson]

Well, I didn't call.

[Adam Pally]

I literally called you. You're here.

[John Gabriel]

But like we were supposed to get three and a half hours worth of drinks with you today, but you were super busy doing something that's busy.

[Adam Pally]

But there was a snake in your eye.

[Casey Wilson]

Your top off.

[Adam Pally]

There was a snake. Your top was off and there was a snake needle in your eye.

[Casey Wilson]

In the London hotel, not a doctor's office.

[John Gabriel]

Oh, that's like. When I did, I went to. I did mushroom therapy with a therapist and everyone's like, oh, where was her office? I'm like, a condo in Santa Monica.

[Casey Wilson]

I don't want to hear condo.

[John Gabriel]

You're like on mushrooms talking about your childhood and there's like, you hear a garbage truck.

[Adam Pally]

It's like, Amazon, Amazon.

[Casey Wilson]

I'm okay with like a back house. I don't like condos. Did it work?

[John Gabriel]

It worked.

[Casey Wilson]

I love that.

[John Gabriel]

Completely fine, though.

[Casey Wilson]

No, but did it help a lot?

[John Gabriel]

Oh yeah, dude, it was crazy.

[Adam Pally]

Well, you are also one of, besides your physical stuff, my, my friend who is the most open to spiritual guidance and stuff like that, which I feel like Gabrius is so open to as well. And all three of us have lost parents. Like, are you doing. Are you still going to talk to my therapist and. Well, that. I know you are, but are you reaching the third dimension?

[Casey Wilson]

Always trying.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

I love, like, psychics and human design and astrology and enneagram and all that.

[Adam Pally]

And I believe.

[John Gabriel]

Wait, what was that last word you said?

[Casey Wilson]

Enneagrams?

[Adam Pally]

What's that?

[Casey Wilson]

It's like a little quiz you take and you find out your numbers, and it's kind of like a. It's more of a personality one.

[Adam Pally]

I love. I love it.

[Casey Wilson]

It's really fun, actually.

[Adam Pally]

So, like, how does it work? So, like, you. You.

[John Gabriel]

It's like finding out your.

[Adam Pally]

There is general list of questions. General list of questions, yes.

[Casey Wilson]

And you take a quiz, and you're.

[John Gabriel]

Like, I'm a 31. I knew it.

[Adam Pally]

And then a 31 means, like, an empath crossed with an introvert or something.

[Casey Wilson]

Well, mine is, like a cutthroat, like, killer. You'll get, like, stomp on anyone to get it. I know. It's called, like, the Achiever. And at first you're like, oh. And then it's like, no, you don't actually want to be here.

[John Gabriel]

I'm the achiever. That's good. Your numerologist is, like, really bad, actually.

[Adam Pally]

No.

[John Gabriel]

Achieving things. Good. Being an achiever. Bad, bad.

[Casey Wilson]

You know, I want to hear about the mushrooms. I just said, what's the. Why am I blanking?

[Adam Pally]

Ayahuasca.

[Casey Wilson]

No, the drug I did with the therapist. Ketamine.

[Adam Pally]

We did ketamine. We did ketamine with.

[John Gabriel]

On the show.

[Adam Pally]

On the show.

[Casey Wilson]

So fun.

[John Gabriel]

Listeners of the podcast will know that they. It was completely edited out.

[Adam Pally]

They had to edit it out.

[Casey Wilson]

Why?

[Adam Pally]

Because. I don't know. I don't remember. I know why you're not supposed to do Catch ketamine on air. I guess it's like, we didn't know that.

[John Gabriel]

We were so up in arms about smart list saying they were gonna take it out. We were so angry about it. And then, like, a half hour later, afterwards, we're coming down, Adam and I are talking, and he's like. We're both just like, yeah. So I guess, like, you aren't supposed to do ketamine at work.

[Casey Wilson]

Wait, at the end of the day.

[John Gabriel]

The people who are paying us were right.

[Adam Pally]

And, like.

[Casey Wilson]

Right. Like, at the end of the day, it's a little.

[Adam Pally]

The producers were freaking out, and they.

[Casey Wilson]

Were like, it's not weed.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. And they were texting, like, the producers. We're texting the producers there. They're like, they just did ketamine in the studio. And then the other producer was like, well, how's it going? And the producer was like, they've been talking about 9, 11 for like 15 minutes.

[Casey Wilson]

Wow.

[Adam Pally]

But we love ketamine.

[Casey Wilson]

Me too.

[Adam Pally]

It's really not. It's really like in the right form with a doctor, it's quite beneficial.

[Casey Wilson]

Wow. It's helped me so much.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah. We had a ketamine therapist on. Talked us through, talked us into it.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. So you go to. Do you do it with the.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, the eye mask. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And the therapist is there. Is. Do they spray a scent. Is it a scent related thing? Oh, I've had that. Yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

Okay.

[Adam Pally]

Which is kind of cool because it like. I mean, I was.

[John Gabriel]

They say the olfactory sense is one of the strongest memories.

[Adam Pally]

Sense memory is exactly what it did. Yeah.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And it gives you. Because your eyes are closing.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh. So it's giving you like taking you back to memories.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. So they're like, spray, spray like grass or something. And you're like. For me it was like. I was like, right. Kind of back in my backyard when I was a kid. And you're like, wow, it's great. Wow, it's great.

[John Gabriel]

The mushroom therapy was really intense and really awesome.

[Casey Wilson]

How long did it last?

[John Gabriel]

It was a couple hours, I think. I was definitely at this place for five hours, but I think I was like maybe one hour to two hours in the deep of the trip. And I met my inner children. I met all of them. How many did you have at the time? I had. In hindsight, I had two younger versions of me and grown up me.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh my God.

[John Gabriel]

Hanging out in my childhood basement. And it was. Felt like a sitcom. So clearly the plant was showing me like a way that I would understand it the most. So I was just in a three.

[Casey Wilson]

A three camera.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah. Multi cam with me and two younger versions of myself. One like 12 and one like five. And they're also like weirdly very traumatic. Like they're both dealing with two different traumas from my childhood.

[Casey Wilson]

No.

[Adam Pally]

That you remembered or that were subconsciously.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah, that became part like the young one was like afraid of his. Of his dad. And the middle one was super defensive and aggro and a wise ass. And I wouldn't let. He had his. His shield up and wouldn't let anyone. And I was just like talking and I find myself in my trip in a sitcom setting saying to 13 year old self, hey, Gabrius, let your fucking armor down so you can feel love. And then I'm like, who am I talking to? And then I'm realizing I'm like, it's all like. And according to the therapist I'm playing, I'm all the voices for her, like, not changing characters.

[Adam Pally]

She recorded it?

[John Gabriel]

No, she. She just.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, you're speaking this out loud. This isn't just in your head, but.

[John Gabriel]

She'S saying, like, what are you saying? I'm like, now he's saying this, he's saying this.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, my God.

[John Gabriel]

And then I stopped saying, he's saying this and he's saying this. And I started just talking as the three. And she said they each had like a different cadence. And she said it was. This is a very proud moment for me. The funniest therapy session she's ever had.

[Casey Wilson]

I was gonna say it must have.

[Adam Pally]

Been some first of all, but if that's doing you, doing your own voice as a five year old, inherently funny dude.

[John Gabriel]

And the craziest shit too, because, like, I'm now giving my 5 year old self advice.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, my God.

[John Gabriel]

That hits so hard for 40 year old Gabrius, who's giving the advice, who's like, there is no one who has control over you in your life. Like, it's you. You can do whatever you want.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, my God.

[John Gabriel]

And then the real crazy element was, is I could feel all three of our emotions separately in my body. So when we were all happy, it was the happiest I've been ever felt. When we were all sad, I was blown away, like snot tearing. But then sometimes one guy would be sad and two of us would be okay and it wouldn't feel as hard. And it was like this crazy. I could feel like a titrated level of emotions. It was. There was so much shit going on and it was my childhood basement and like everything was laid out. It was the craziest experience. I don't think I've talked about it on the podcast yet.

[Casey Wilson]

Blown away.

[John Gabriel]

It was so. I like, truly learned so much about myself and like all this shit, like. And like, we all have dad issues and I.

[Adam Pally]

My dad is. He's too much dad.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah, my dad, kind of the opposite. They said, do you want to invite your dad? She's like, do you want to try to bring your dad into the basement?

[Adam Pally]

And I was like, well, he was already passed.

[John Gabriel]

He was already dead. He's like, do you want to bring your dad into the basement? And I said, let me ask the guys, meaning me. And I said, should we bring dad in here. And a five year old Gabriel said no, no, he said, you can, but I'll leave. And I was like, no dude, I got you. I'm here to protect you. And I'm like, oh my God, I'm here. I'm saying to my inner child, don't worry, I'll protect you. And I'm like, fuck. That's what I have to be doing in my real life right now.

[Casey Wilson]

It's for yourself?

[John Gabriel]

Yeah, for myself to protect my inner child.

[Adam Pally]

Now did you feel any, any. Were you able to take a like a bird's eye view and feel a sense of guilt that your five year old self didn't want your dad in the room?

[John Gabriel]

Room? There was, it was, it was more like I was telling him he, he can't actually hurt you anymore. And then I'm going, every time I'm telling one of the younger ver, I'm actually just telling myself something. I need to hear it too, right? And it's just crazy. I came to the conclusion the one of the big ones was the 12 year old is like this armor protected you when you needed protection, but now it's preventing you from feeling love. And you still have it on. And I'm like. And he's like the wise ass one's like, you still have it on. I go, you can't just sit here and do that. And I go, you still have it on. And I'm like, that doesn't work like that. And I'm like, oh my God, do I still have it on? And like little me is like, you still have it on. And now I have like two younger versions of me saying like dude, listen to your own advice. Like it was so fucking crazy. I'm going back. This was like four years ago. I couldn't go back again soon because like it was a lot like I'm only now comfortable talking like publicly about it.

[Adam Pally]

That is beautiful though.

[Casey Wilson]

It really is.

[John Gabriel]

I've really learned a lot about myself. And then you know, people say like you're just re raising your inner child is like what everyone says that's all you're trying to do. Like in the.

[Casey Wilson]

Did you have sadness stuff that the younger you didn't have you there or were you finding it healing as the fact that you are all of them?

[John Gabriel]

I found it very healing. Like after the fact I found it very. I like left away. I left with like actionable things that would like make and, or, or things to prevent myself from doing because you know, sometimes you just see a friend do something and you're like, dude, you really shouldn't be doing that. And then in your head, head, you're like, wait, do I do that? But I'm only able to notice it now because I'm seeing it on someone else. And I think that's what a lot of it was, was like the plant was showing me things I could change via seeing my. Because then you like, you see your 8 year old self and he's dealing and you're like, bro, if you just get over this, your life can be amazing. Like, you know, like, oh, don't like telling your 13 year old self like, no, no, no, no, don't be so defensive. Life, there's so much life out there. And I'm like. And I'm like, oh, this is all advice I should be taking. Like when you're giving improv notes and you're like, hey, stop trying to be funny. You're like, wait, that's my what my problem is, you know, all of a sudden you're like, fuck, dude. And so I took away from that like a lot of life.

[Adam Pally]

Clearly. And clearly you also still remember the 12 year old and the 5 year old. Pretty, pretty.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah, I remember their out their outfits. I remember everything. Oh my God, it was crazy. Yeah. 12 year old me sitting up on the back of a couch with his feet on the couch kind of like this with like a. But like dressed like Ryder Strong from Boy Meets World, you know, like everyone was like, it was so sitcom y. It was so, so crazy.

[Adam Pally]

I mean, that's really beautiful.

[Casey Wilson]

Beautiful.

[John Gabriel]

It was awesome.

[Adam Pally]

I feel like you need to get this doctor's number.

[Casey Wilson]

I do. I've learned so much from Gabriel's session.

[Adam Pally]

This woman's in a condo in Santa Monica.

[John Gabriel]

Crazy part. She was using her friend's condo because.

[Casey Wilson]

She was having construction done on hers on her condo. Honestly, she sounds great.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah, well, she's a mushroom therapist who's also an actual licensed psychotherapist. So. Like.

[Adam Pally]

Sounds wonderful. Yeah, yeah, that's great.

[John Gabriel]

It was, it was cool.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh my God, dude, what a story.

[John Gabriel]

Oh God, yeah. Sorry to dominate, but we got stuck on that.

[Casey Wilson]

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[Adam Pally]

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[Adam Pally]

So you do ketamine therapy?

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, I've done it like four times but.

[Adam Pally]

And you. But you like it?

[Casey Wilson]

I love it and very helpful.

[Adam Pally]

Are you doing your regular therapy?

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Diet?

[Casey Wilson]

Diet. I don't really get too alcohol involved with alcohol. I don't drink as much anymore. I want to, but I just like feel bad. I know getting older because I really want to.

[Adam Pally]

Everyone isn't saying the same.

[John Gabriel]

I still like once every two weeks go like I can fudgeing, really drink. And then the next day I'm like, the fuck.

[Casey Wilson]

But see, I rather go because I have such an all or nothing personality. Like I rather go and have so much fun and drink way too much and have one shitty day than like have one glass or two and that's more shitty.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah, I'd rather have 30 glasses in two sessions rather than one a day for.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabriel]

And I'd rather have two 15 drink.

[Casey Wilson]

Nights than 31 drinks to be like, should I be hospitalized?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, but alcohol does feel way worse now. Like even one or two drinks.

[Casey Wilson]

But I can't do weed. I know you, obviously I've made you found your way with it.

[Adam Pally]

I found my way with weed. I. Yeah, you're weird like that.

[Casey Wilson]

Wait, do you smoke a ton?

[John Gabriel]

Yes.

[Casey Wilson]

Yes. Okay.

[Adam Pally]

With them.

[John Gabriel]

No, he said smoke. She said smoke a ton.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, smoke a ton.

[John Gabriel]

I smoke a lot, but I am. I try not to during the day anymore when I'm working. I. I stopped doing it when I had other things to do. And now I've gotten to a point where I'm in a race to be doing nothing every day. Where I'm like, well I could just call my day at 4:30. Or should I actually go do the gym or should I actually do one more thing? I'm like, nah, dude, it's 4:30, get home. You know, it's like 1:45am Time to move to bed and get high. One more time before bed.

[Adam Pally]

Time to move this part.

[Casey Wilson]

Wake up at.

[Adam Pally]

Well, today's a wash, fresh eyes, tomorrow smoke.

[John Gabriel]

I have that podcast at noon. I'll be done at 1:30. And starting at 1:30, I'll do whatever the fuck I want for the rest of the day.

[Adam Pally]

No, I. I weeded. I. I found my way with it. I feel like I'm.

[John Gabriel]

Weed helped me get off alcohol hard is what it did too. In the pandemic, weed replaced my nightly drinking and I was like, I'm feeling much better every day.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabriel]

And now I think I need to readjust my relationship with.

[Adam Pally]

That I have cut down on because I don't smoke, like actual weed anymore, which changed a lot of my life.

[Casey Wilson]

What do you do?

[Adam Pally]

I just have this little like, dad vape that I'll hit, you know, all day or occasionally.

[John Gabriel]

And then twice in this record.

[Adam Pally]

No, I haven't hit it in this record.

[John Gabriel]

Well, your producer's nodding yes. I watched you do it through the window. You don't even realize.

[Adam Pally]

Maybe, so maybe too much.

[Casey Wilson]

Everyone's nodding yes.

[Adam Pally]

Maybe too much.

[Casey Wilson]

Multiple people.

[John Gabriel]

No one cares. But everyone.

[Casey Wilson]

But everyone is nodding.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. So I. But. But I don't. But it's not as. I don't know, like, when I would get high with like, real weed, like four times a day. Those next couple hours were destroyed.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, like you were just too.

[Adam Pally]

Where I was just like.

[John Gabriel]

Also you're like endocannabinoid system intolerance is like through the roof.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[John Gabriel]

I'm sure it's been shooted.

[Casey Wilson]

Does it make you more creative?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I think sometimes in the right, like, setting. I think it does. I think it also, like, is really helpful, like, GI wise, you know, like, oh, boy. Yeah.

[John Gabriel]

When you. Because he's in the army.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Cause it's just on ptsd, you know, for the troops. For the troops.

[John Gabriel]

I'm smoking weed for the troops.

[Adam Pally]

I was in Iraq 3. I was at Iraq 3, in Afghanistan 9.

[John Gabriel]

And then get pumped because we got Iraq 4 in Afghanistan 10 just around the corner, thanks to our boy Hegseth. Oh, and tune in next week when we have Pete Hegseth on teaching us how to do pull ups.

[Casey Wilson]

Except.

[John Gabriel]

Fucking people are in charge. We're like, I don't know if I should drink that much. It's like affecting me negatively. And then our fucking leaders are fucking sauced to the gills.

[Casey Wilson]

Do you think Trump drinks a ton?

[Adam Pally]

No, I think he's. I Think he's got, like, Adderall, speed stuff.

[John Gabriel]

I think he gets, like. I think all presidents get it, too. Is like, you get, like, the fucking fighter pilot, Navy SEAL drugs, you know, you get like, the super shit that hasn't even hit the legal market yet of just like, this is Adderall for our sniper.

[Adam Pally]

You know what I mean?

[John Gabriel]

That kind of shit that, like, what fighter pilots pop is like, top shelf stuff we've never even heard.

[Casey Wilson]

For real.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah. They get pillows.

[Casey Wilson]

Is this like a conspiracy theory or is this.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. How deep. How deep is this factual? Like, are we talking.

[John Gabriel]

About.

[Adam Pally]

I don't want to talk about it here.

[Casey Wilson]

Don't talk about this anymore.

[John Gabriel]

No, the forefront of all of that kind of medication is like, Special Forces guys are on. I mean, they're on, like, steroids, testosterone, fucking.

[Adam Pally]

It's like Special forces and Dave Chappelle in his van after a show.

[John Gabriel]

It is like, the guys who aren't special forces are probably on the same drugs as, like, half of the performers at the comedy mothership. Just, everyone's on fucking testosterone. Everyone's on fucking yakt, legal stimulants.

[Adam Pally]

Everyone looks like a tomato.

[John Gabriel]

Everyone is that weird baloney color that happens when you get older and get buffed and your skin gets real tight.

[Adam Pally]

Kevin James looks like Joe Rogan and who looks like Jeff Bezos, who looks like. They all have. Have this, like, pool cue vibe.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah, well, because Rogan's got it the worst, because he's probably been on test the longest, that his head is becoming, like, that perfect circle, and he's turning the color of, like, Hulk Hogan, like, that hot dog brown. Baloney brown, if you will. He's like, this color of, like, person. Baloney brown.

[Adam Pally]

Fried baloney brown. Baloney brown.

[John Gabriel]

I was gonna say baloney brown sounds like a weird song from when we were bad.

[Adam Pally]

Bad bologna brown.

[John Gabriel]

Bad, bad Bologna brown goes around every town.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, my God, do you think? So is Bezos lifting a ton, or is he just on things that are making a little bit of lifting? Yeah, go further.

[John Gabriel]

I think it's the latter because, like. But you have to actually do. You do actually have to work out to make testosterone and steroids really work.

[Casey Wilson]

Okay, okay.

[John Gabriel]

It'll help you a little bit. But they're definitely. I. I mean, this. These. We should be concerned that all the billionaires in the world are like, yes, I spend every day taking stuff to make me stronger. And I learned jiu Jitsu and, like, everyone's, like, learning how to, like, defend themselves.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. I mean, while down here we're like, stopping drinking. We're like, I don't know. It makes me not sleep good.

[John Gabriel]

Did you hear Putin on that hot mic moment when he was like, with hot mic.

[Adam Pally]

Putin was on a high mic? What, on a podcast?

[John Gabriel]

No, he was with President. President Xi in China when they did that, like, Axis performance where it was like all the. All the who hate America or who America says we are supposed to hate got together. And he was meeting with President Xi and he said, with organ harvesting, we could achieve immortality. There are a farm of people in Russia who have Putin's next heart and next liver and next whatever else he needs. I guarantee it. And that's the most rich people shit ever, is you just grow backup parts.

[Casey Wilson]

The one thing that comes for us all is death and aging. And they're like, no.

[John Gabriel]

Why? Everything is a fight is about fighting it.

[Adam Pally]

Well, why be so anti stem cell?

[John Gabriel]

I don't think they are. I think they're anti stem cells. I think they just say that because of religion.

[Casey Wilson]

Have you seen those longevity guys, though? Like, the ones that practice it at their creepy. It's like Uncanny Valley.

[Adam Pally]

The one guy that measures him and Sergeant's boners.

[John Gabriel]

Thompson, did you hear about him?

[Casey Wilson]

What?

[Adam Pally]

I'm serious.

[John Gabriel]

Like, a marker of sexual health is how many original.

[Adam Pally]

Heart health, not sexual.

[John Gabriel]

Oh, yeah. Heart health in general.

[Casey Wilson]

What about grip strength?

[Adam Pally]

You're going to get boners forever.

[John Gabriel]

I test my grip strength.

[Casey Wilson]

He measures his own son's boner.

[Adam Pally]

Well, yeah, because he's measuring the. He's taking the son's blood and putting it in his.

[Casey Wilson]

No.

[Adam Pally]

Yes. Yeah, yeah. He recycles the son's blood, puts it in his.

[Casey Wilson]

I only recycle my own blood for my face.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I know why you wanted a daughter.

[Casey Wilson]

How old does your son have to be?

[Adam Pally]

I know why you wanted that daughter.

[John Gabriel]

You're like 8 or 10. How young is too young to start your son as your blood baby?

[Adam Pally]

David, should we. Should we put fillers on the little one just in case I want them later?

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, we never know. We never know.

[John Gabriel]

But, like, you know, like, we've gotten to a certain level of success and wealth where you're like, well, now I can go get an IV right Now I can go. I can afford a cold Pl. Like, when you are in the billions, it's like you're open up to a whole new menu of right.

[Casey Wilson]

Because to me, an IV is like, crazy. Although I do get them quite a bit.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, but they are so expensive. They're.

[Casey Wilson]

I know, I know, but I'm so bad with hydration, and I've gotten sick of so much less. But again, I'm sure that's, like, 90% just like. But at least you're getting hydrated again.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

I mean, but you know what I do with them? And this is. I'm gonna be, like, arrested for this. Okay, so I'll get them, like, every two or three weeks, one will come over, and it's bad. She. Have you ever gotten one with Benadryl in it?

[Adam Pally]

No.

[Casey Wilson]

You are staggering around your house like she can't even get to the door.

[Adam Pally]

You're having a heroin.

[Casey Wilson]

I know, and I know it's bad.

[Adam Pally]

Who's calling you, Doc? Michael Jackson?

[Casey Wilson]

No, name's not with that.

[John Gabriel]

Conrad Murray or Benicia del Toro from.

[Adam Pally]

Fear and Loath was.

[Casey Wilson]

The guy said to me, this is not trying to be funny. It was so shocking. He's like, you know, I can put Benadryl in your idea. And I'm like, trying to act like I'm not. I'm like, what does that do? Like, and then he's like, oh, well, we call it the Cosby. I said, you can't say that. Sorry. I said, we can't call it that.

[Adam Pally]

But I will take you.

[Casey Wilson]

I go, that's. No, but he was like, oh, whatever.

[John Gabriel]

You want to call.

[Casey Wilson]

He's like, should I not say that? I'm like, no, but it. It is powerful.

[Adam Pally]

Really.

[Casey Wilson]

Deeper. It has a heroinesque. So imagine teetering on the edge of, like, drug addicts. Like, I'm not there, but I'm. Could be, but I.

[Adam Pally]

A night of full sleep is like, something that would elongate my. Like, my sleep pattern is so fucked right now.

[Casey Wilson]

But the 20 minutes leading up to it.

[Adam Pally]

Selfies.

[Casey Wilson]

Best ever. I'm like, will I get upstairs? Like. And, boy, do you try to fight it. It's fun.

[Adam Pally]

It's like taking NyQuil and trying to jerk off.

[John Gabriel]

Trying.

[Casey Wilson]

What is it not worth?

[John Gabriel]

I'm frequently succeeding with that.

[Adam Pally]

Half a bottle of nyquil and then you'. I wonder if I'm gonna get to the jerk off stage before I pass out.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, my God.

[Adam Pally]

Do you want to plug anything? Garbage World?

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, I guess. I have a podcast called Bitch Sash, and it's a part of Garbage World's a little. I mean, I don't think it's a network. I don't know what we made, Danielle.

[John Gabriel]

I think it's like, imprint.

[Casey Wilson]

Imprint. I never thought about shingle. A shingle called Garbage World.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

With Danielle Schneider.

[Adam Pally]

Shingles.

[Casey Wilson]

Shingles. And. And again, I'M sure the same fans listening will love a comedy podcast about the Real Housewives.

[Adam Pally]

Well, I. I.

[Casey Wilson]

Think you do. By the way, I was gonna say.

[Adam Pally]

I'm sure you and I talk about housewives and women love you guys. Are you watching Salt Lake City this year? Of course, I have not heard.

[John Gabriel]

Of course she's monetized. That she has to.

[Adam Pally]

I have not heard the term dick sucker used as much as that episode.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

When did that term become, like.

[Casey Wilson]

No, gout. Dick sucker.

[Adam Pally]

Gout. Dick sucker.

[Casey Wilson]

That's what she said.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, gout. Because do dicks get gout? No, it's not.

[Casey Wilson]

It was this man' super old, and a young woman's married to him. And she was like, you fucking gout, dick sucker.

[John Gabriel]

That's awesome.

[Adam Pally]

But it was. It reminded me, was the closest I've. I've seen to New Jersey. Like, you prostitution whore.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Because it was at this, like, public party, and. And this. They were fighting, and then all of a sudden, it, like, ratcheted up a notch, and the woman was like, you're a dick sucker. You're a gout dick sucker. You suck dick. You're a gout dick sucker.

[John Gabriel]

You.

[Adam Pally]

I don't want to hear from it. From the dick sucker. Dick sucker. Dick sucker. And it was just, like, so much of that word. It was so crazy.

[Casey Wilson]

Y. I was like, this is wild. It's wonderful.

[John Gabriel]

Try not to gout Suck any dicks on the way to the parking lot, why don't you?

[Casey Wilson]

To get back to my Hummer.

[Adam Pally]

And Lisa Barlo is. What do you think? Scamming?

[Casey Wilson]

I don't know. I mean, Lisa's just such a wonderful housewife that I wouldn't even.

[Adam Pally]

I know, but you don't. But don't you think that last thing is, like, what's really going on is she's grifting.

[Casey Wilson]

I think so.

[Adam Pally]

So the guy she grifted with the husband in the Amex, like, that's dark. I think she's got someone paying her Amex bill.

[Casey Wilson]

I think she's, like, not telling the husband, maybe, like, that she's taken money from other people for their businesses.

[Adam Pally]

Getting that money for some. For some reason.

[Casey Wilson]

I don't. Allegedly.

[Adam Pally]

It's really weird. Yeah. It was.

[Casey Wilson]

The Potomac housewife was just arrested this morning.

[Adam Pally]

Another one.

[Casey Wilson]

Another one.

[Adam Pally]

Well, someone told me.

[John Gabriel]

I saw that.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

Someone told me that, as Danielle said, any housewife worth their salt has been arrested. And honestly, if you haven't, do better.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. City has the largest arrest for pyramid scheme per capita of any of Any state.

[Casey Wilson]

Utah. There's so much darkness there. What's happening?

[Adam Pally]

And so all these women that were thought of as just like, they got personality and they're wealthy and in business are actually MLM pyramid schemes and like stealing from the rest of the country.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah. It's like Avon without any products.

[Casey Wilson]

Very like religious darkness and like super weird stuff going on there.

[Adam Pally]

But. And we're all watching the show in the first couple seasons being like, they're crazy. And now you're like, wait a minute, they've been stealing.

[Casey Wilson]

I'm like, you go girl.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

They've been like canceling health insurance money from elders.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. It's wild.

[Casey Wilson]

You got to come back on Bitch Dash if you're watching Salt Lake.

[Adam Pally]

I. I would love to. Yeah. I love Salt Lake. Salt Lake was the. Was the first time I. I don't know why I caught it early this year.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And I. That camping trip was so wild and the Mary Cosby made me laugh so much with the giving of fish cpr.

[Casey Wilson]

Remember you gave a piece of.

[Adam Pally]

What was it?

[Casey Wilson]

Brano. Branzino cpr.

[Adam Pally]

At a.

[Casey Wilson]

Honest with you. It's one of the funniest things he's literally figured out doing it.

[Adam Pally]

Blow it in the fish's mouth.

[Casey Wilson]

So disgusting and funny.

[Adam Pally]

But that made me laugh. And then I was like, I actually like this one. It's actually. These guys are actually like crazy. And then when they started talk everyone around episode two or three, everyone started talking about business. Everyone's like, my business, my business, my business. I was like, I actually love this. Like, this is like, what did Jen Shaw do that they don't want to be compared to her?

[Casey Wilson]

Well, she was the MLM scheme who was like taking money from elders and like, you know, scamming elders.

[Adam Pally]

Isn't that what they're all like? But they're all. Is that why it's such a hot button thing when someone's like, you're like Jen Shaw.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

She's in federal prison for it.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[John Gabriel]

I'm not like her at all. I'm doing something exactly like that. I'm not going to end up like her.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah. Like I'm not that. She's in prison with Elizabeth Holmes from Toronto. They're always like power walking the outdoor. Like outdoor like walking path together. What a.

[Adam Pally]

Cameras got cameras. Got to get in there.

[Casey Wilson]

Cameras will be up.

[John Gabriel]

They're getting a two hander show right when they get out.

[Adam Pally]

100%.

[Casey Wilson]

I just love it. They're like walking with their little weights.

[Adam Pally]

Good blood, cooking up something Chef's cooking in the kitchen.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[John Gabriel]

Speaking of good blood, we do have a 4:30 face needle appointment that we have to.

[Casey Wilson]

Gotta go. Yeah. Again, to your viewers, I would normally have done makeup and such, but, you know, my wellness includes my facial.

[John Gabriel]

We appreciate you coming straight from gorgeous.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

You're like.

[Casey Wilson]

It seems like you do those treatments so that you look better on camera, but yet you've done nothing beautiful and gorgeous.

[Adam Pally]

Always, always, always.

[Casey Wilson]

Thank you, guys. And I know you do have female listeners and people love you. I think I need to be rude.

[Adam Pally]

Danielle, out of obligation.

[John Gabriel]

Well, because we do topless episodes.

[Casey Wilson]

Danielle's not listening to this.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, she says out of obligation, but she's probably not listening.

[Casey Wilson]

You can.

[John Gabriel]

I can't even get her to watch that Instagram clip.

[Adam Pally]

Yes. Nothing's been more than a little long.

[Casey Wilson]

Thank you for having me. And that was such a beautiful story you told Gabriel. I'm never gonna forget that.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabriel]

Oh, thank you.

[Adam Pally]

We'll get you the number.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah, I'll text you. I'll let you know how the next session.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, we don't really stop either, I guess.

[Adam Pally]

Kind of make sure we take a picture end.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, okay.

[John Gabriel]

Well, we do an intro and outro, but without you.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, okay. We don't make you suffer through.

[Casey Wilson]

Thank you for having me. Okay. Adam, text me if you see car keys.

[Adam Pally]

Of course. Well, I'll certainly.

[Casey Wilson]

I'm sure I'll be back up here looking for you. Goodbye. I love you.

[Adam Pally]

Soon.

[Casey Wilson]

Take care.

[Adam Pally]

That was such an awesome, amazing show to have. It was like, you know, Seinfeld episode where two groups of friends, two of your friends meet. But also your story was. Cause I don't think you ever shared that.

[John Gabriel]

I don't think I have either. I haven't been. I really haven't told a lot of people about it because it felt like, so private. But now I have such distance from it and based on the show and talking to you and Casey.

[Adam Pally]

Casey is. Is also the best receiver like you. You.

[John Gabriel]

You see, like, tears in her eyes while I'm telling the story and I'm like, oh, my God.

[Adam Pally]

You see why I talk to her multiple times a day, every day. Like, I. She has become a voice that I need, that I rely on for reactions like that.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And she's the only one that gives it to me.

[John Gabriel]

She's empathetic as fuck.

[Adam Pally]

Obviously. Yeah. And well, to the people she loves.

[John Gabriel]

Right.

[Adam Pally]

Like, yeah, that's what. I've also seen her be like. I've also seen. Seen her be like, get the yeah. Away.

[John Gabriel]

Well, she's not fake, which is important.

[Adam Pally]

Which is w. Wild. And I feel like Casey would be like, yes, I am fake. But she's not.

[John Gabriel]

No, that's why we like her.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I think she would. She would be like, oh my God, I'm fake all the time. That's her being like self, like self deprecating because she actually is quite real.

[John Gabriel]

We haven't anyone talk about like skin routines and stuff on the pod either. So that was really interesting to hear some of the stuff she.

[Adam Pally]

That women go through or want to go through. The pain like, of choosing to keep your body up is wild. And her and David have gotten so much hotter, the two of them.

[John Gabriel]

Oh, yeah. And they were never not attractive.

[Adam Pally]

No. They were both good looking people when we. When we started. But now they're like hot people.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah. Oh, you know, we didn't connect. She told us tennis stories and. And Scott told us that he broke his foot playing pickleball with them.

[Adam Pally]

With them? Yeah. Whoops.

[John Gabriel]

They're like ye. Slumming every once in a while. And played pickleball with Scott.

[Adam Pally]

She did tell me not. She's like, I don't want to be associated with Scott and go up.

[John Gabriel]

Yeah, I totally understand. Go off like her best friend.

[Adam Pally]

She's like, I don't want to be on the same court.

[John Gabriel]

No. No one should know that Scott can hang with me playing pickleball.

[Adam Pally]

Obviously he can. He broke his foot for two years. Also, Casey is super competitive.

[John Gabriel]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

Insanely competitive. It was funny when she was like, I got a killer and I didn't see that. I was like, yeah, you're insanely competitive. Workaholic and driven and like, I wouldn't want to play Casey in tennis.

[John Gabriel]

No, she'll whoop our ass.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabriel]

Then she would make you feel bad about.

[Adam Pally]

Yes. Oh, totally. And then she'd be like, you know, a man your age should really be in better shape. Oh my God. This. Casey will not mind me telling her this story, but we went to Vegas together once because Casey, like us, you know, loves Vegas and I don't know why. Me and her had an earlier flight than David and Danielle. I think me and her had to be at set and David was like, I don't give a. So he stayed with a bunch of people. They all stayed. And we went back early. We were on the plane and we had had a few Bloody Marys in the morning. It was like a 12 o' clock flight, so we were both a little loose. And she was like, can I be honest? With you as like a. A true, true friend who loves you. And I was like, yeah, of course. And she was like, you could be Matt Damon if you lost, like, 30 pounds. 30. And I was like, 30.

[John Gabriel]

It could be Matt Damon in Courage.

[Adam Pally]

Under Fire, which played heroin addicts £30. I was like, it was such a wake up call. I was like, what? And she thought that I was gonna take it, like, nicely and be like, you think I could be Matt Damon? But I was like, 30 pounds.

[John Gabriel]

That's all that's separating you from the big Dana.

[Adam Pally]

But it's sweet in her mind. Yes. Which is what you want from someone you love.

[John Gabriel]

Which is very kind, actually. Very kind.

[Adam Pally]

Very kind. I'm crying.

[John Gabriel]

All right, brother, stay alive.

[Adam Pally]

I'm done with letting you get that shit.

[John Gabriel]

Done with letting you. You have been listening to Staying Alive with John Gabris and Adam Pally a smartless media production in association with Sirius.

[Adam Pally]

XM Produced by Devin Tory Bryant and Anne Harris. Engineered and edited by Devin Tory Bryant, who also wrote the music.

[John Gabriel]

Associate producer and video producer is Matty McCann. Social media producer Tommy Galgano.

[Adam Pally]

Assistant engineer Kyle McGraw. Special thanks to Jared O' Connell at SiriusXM executive producers are John Gabriel.

[John Gabriel]

Ooh, me. Adam Pally. Ooh, you. Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Richard Corson and Bernie Kaminski. Do us a favor. Just rate and review the podcast. It actually helps.

[Adam Pally]

Just so everyone knows, we do not have a discord.

[John Gabriel]

Don't reach out to us.

[Adam Pally]

See us on the street. Walk the other way or you'll catch hands. Can we. Are we rolling at all still?

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Can we put a caveat? Casey found her keys. They were.

[John Gabriel]

When Casey was leaving, she couldn't find the keys to her husband.

[Adam Pally]

We were rolling. We were rolling. We were rolling.

[John Gabriel]

So maybe it's picked up. Yeah. Ye.

[Adam Pally]

We found the keys. They were on. We found the keys.

[John Gabriel]

They are on top of the toilet. Where. Where I put my phone when I. In public. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

God bless her.

[John Gabriel]

Stay alive.

[Casey Wilson]

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