Proof Of Life: The Pursuit Of The Shaka

Summary

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Staying Alive with Jon Gabrus & Adam Pally

"Proof Of Life: The Pursuit Of The Shaka" (April 23, 2026, SmartLess Media)

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Episode Overview

In this laid-back, hilarious, and deeply honest "Proof of Life" episode, Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally (joined by the ever-present specter of New York/LA background noise) riff about staying alive—physically, mentally, and comedically—amid their evolving wellness journeys. The central theme this week is how their approaches to health and wellness have changed, with a particular focus on community, acceptance, and the pursuit of a more "shaka" (hang loose) lifestyle.

From diet confessions and workout stories to existential musings and snack hacks, the duo delivers a raw, real, and laugh-out-loud funny check-in, complete with digressions on running, snack obsessions, and appropriateness of hand gestures. There's also bonus content on the joy of Epcot's drinking loop, the misery of volleyball tournaments, and the struggle to stay culturally alive as busy dads.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. "Proof of Life" & The Charlie Sheen Principle

• The episode opens with jokes about Charlie Sheen, dubbed a "life warrior" for beating addictions and living to the extreme.
  • "If there's anyone we need to learn how to stay alive from, maybe it should be the guy who beat HIV and like six other addictions." — Mitch (01:23)
  • Sets the tone for open, non-judgmental talk about health obstacles.

2. Living Bicoastal: Real-Life Backdrops

• Andrew is in New York (children, street chaos), while Mitch is in LA ("someone inhaling smoke and then jerking off, ripping a fart and crying").
  • Illustrates the real, unfiltered lifestyle differences, adding to the show's candid flavor.

3. Diet, Protein Bars, and Snack Strategies (03:37–05:51)

• Both discuss their on-the-go, often unhealthy eating habits, and strategies for managing:
  • Andrew jokes about protein bars with “700 calories” and the illusion of healthy snacking.
  • Mitch tries to treat protein bars as “movie treats or desserts” to retrain his brain, shares snack recs from past guest Ryan Stanger, and discusses Rx Bars: "They're disgusting...they have the consistency of, like, resin." (04:46)
  • Almonds—specifically, skinny-dipped ones—are a favorite treat.

4. Body Transformation and Zepbound (GLP-1) Journey (05:47–07:37)

• Mitch details significant weight loss since the show began (“down to 285 pounds from like 315 or 320”).
• Credits medication (GLP-1s, Zepbound) with helping him reduce episodes of overindulgence—a more sustainable approach to eating on and off the road.

5. Fitness Routines: Running, Races, and Motivation (07:37–14:35)

• Hood to Coast Relay: Mitch is training for relay from Mt. Hood to Oregon coast: “You run from Mount Hood to the coast of Oregon. It’s like 200-something miles...team of 10 to 12.” (07:42)
• Running Under 300 Pounds: Mitch reflects on the physical difference and the joy/ego boost of running shirtless in West Hollywood.
  • “It’s a game changer...it’s like I took a 30-pound backpack off.” (08:43)
  • High-five and clapping from women during his run, but jokes: “I feel like they thought I was on a Make a Wish maybe.” (09:55)
• Pally’s Routine: Adam runs in new cities, does “push-ups every three minutes” on runs, adapting for ADHD and limited dad time.
• Both emphasize mental/emotional benefits of running outside versus treadmill monotony.

6. Books, Audiobooks, and the Struggle to Read (17:59–18:55)

• Mitch, guilt-ridden for not reading enough, attempts "one book a month"—admits he’s still on February’s book, despite it being April.
  • “I took two days off weed. I haven’t had a drink in three days. I’ve been eating salad...I’m unstoppable.” (18:22)

7. The "Pursuit of the Shaka" (27:09–29:21)

• Mitch admits to using the Shaka hand gesture (hang loose) increasingly in life, considering if he's allowed ("Am I culturally appropriating?").
• Ties Shaka use to community—a way to seek out "hang loose" people from lifeguarding, rugby, surf, and travel.
  • "I do think the pursuit of the Shaka—of the hang loose—is just might be the right move for me." (28:57)
  • “Are you manifesting it by filtering out people in your life that don’t respond in kind?” — Andrew (29:14)
  • Laughter over whether a lawyer should respond to the Shaka as a baseline for Mitch’s relationships.

8. Family, Food, and the “Freedom Diet” (19:19–20:22)

• Adam jokes about losing 20 pounds in New Zealand not from diet changes, but simply from being away from family ("The only thing I took out was family.").
• Both critique American processed food vs. New Zealand’s fresher, more Mediterranean-inspired options—except pizza, which is “terrible” in NZ.

9. Cars, Convertibles, and California Dreaming (23:24–26:53)

• Humorous tales of old cars (Wranglers, Broncos, Land Cruisers) as status symbols for rich, childless friends—lamenting impracticality and breakdowns.
• Aspirational dream: second “beater” car for short errands, despite all the reasons it’s a bad idea.

10. Parenting, Sports, and Core Memories (38:34–40:10)

• Adam recounts his daughter’s volleyball tournament where she loses every game: “A hard thing to learn when you’re younger is that lose—like, losing is a huge part of playing sports.”
• Contemplates bribing his daughter to skip future tournaments.

11. Struggling to Keep Up with Pop Culture (40:18–41:43)

• Adam laments being culturally out of the loop after back-to-back spring breaks and ultra-dad mode.
  • “I feel like I'm a walking carcass of culture.” (41:08)

12. What They're Watching & Snack Recs (42:02–44:41)

• Mitch recommends “Neighbors” on Max (docuseries on neighbor beefs) and loves how it dispenses “voyeuristic” schadenfreude.
• Discussion of snack du jour: “fruit jerky”—dried mango, cherry, pineapple, referred to as “grown-up Fruit Roll-Ups.”
• Banter about calling things by made-up names (“fruit jerky”) and resulting miscommunication.

13. “Jury Duty” and the Joy in “Nice Pranking” (44:57–46:51)

• Plug for new season of “Jury Duty: Company Retreat”—praise for casting, loving, and fooling a genuinely wonderful, unsuspecting person.
  • Adam: “He's a godsend. You just love him. He’s so on, so game for everything...he laughs when things are too fucked up.” (46:11)
• Value in showing authentic, positive behavior, even in a prank setup.

14. Looking Ahead: DCM and the Comedy Life (46:53–47:19)

• Discussion of potentially appearing at Del Close Marathon, the legendary improv festival, using it as an excuse to hang (and maybe do “whippets”).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "[Charlie Sheen] is William Wallace of Hollywood." – Mitch (01:35)
• "I'm down to 2,285 pounds. I think I was like 315 or 320 when we started the show." – Mitch (05:50)
• "If I can have. I have these skinny dipped almonds...just a little bit of chocolate and they are pretty." – Mitch (05:32)
• "It's a game changer to run weighing—and oh, because it was sunny and you know how I feel about the sun—I was running shirtless. You want to talk about like peak feeling yourself and confidence?" – Mitch (09:01)
• "The only thing I took out was family." – Andrew (19:44)
• "Am I culturally appropriating? Is that what you're asking?" – Mitch (27:23)
• "I do think the pursuit of the Shaka—of the hang loose—is just might be the right move for me." – Mitch (28:57)
• "I feel like I'm a walking carcass of culture." – Andrew (41:08)
• On snack naming: "They might be called something else. I call them fruit jerky." – Andrew (44:33)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Intro & Charlie Sheen riff: 01:17–02:35
• Protein bars, diet struggles: 03:37–05:51
• Weight loss update and Zepbound/GLP-1: 05:47–07:37
• Running stories, shirtless jogs, and relay race: 07:37–14:35
• Book/audiobook and sober memes: 17:59–18:55
• Quality of American vs New Zealand food: 19:19–20:22
• The Shaka (hang loose) pursuit and cultural appropriation joke: 27:09–29:21
• Old cars, convertibles, and car guy dreams: 23:24–26:53
• Parenting, volleyball tournaments, losing & bribery: 38:34–40:10
• Pop culture disconnect & fatigue: 40:18–41:43
• TV recs “Neighbors” & “Jury Duty: Company Retreat”: 42:02–46:33
• Fruit jerky & snack naming: 43:30–44:41

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Tone & Style

• Irreverent, open, and self-deprecating, with equal parts earnest health talk and absurdist humor.
• Natural banter, playful ribbing, candid confessions, and moments of real vulnerability make the episode feel like a late-night hang between old friends—albeit with a slightly unhinged, wellness-curious edge.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode is less a how-to guide and more a “real guy’s” survival check-in—equal parts stand-up set and therapy session. Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally, through digression and laughter, model that “staying alive” is about progress, not perfection. Whether wrestling with weight, snacking, running, or just trying to stay connected to a positive, “shaka” energy, the message is: keep moving, keep laughing, keep it honest.

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For full context and laughs, listen to the "Proof Of Life: The Pursuit Of The Shaka" episode on Staying Alive (SmartLess Media).

Transcript

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[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

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[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

We should get Charlie Sheen on the pod.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Oh God. Yeah, I really want to dig more into that story.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Dude. If. If there's anyone we need to learn how to stay alive from, maybe it should be the guy who beat HIV and like six other addictions.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

He truly is a fucking life warrior.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, life warrior.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

He's William. He's William Wallace of Hollywood.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

After you've fucked thousands of women, might as well try a few guys.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Flip the menu, men. Flip the menu.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

That's what he said. Flip the menu. I was trying to think of this specific the other day. That's so fucking awesome. What a way to look at life. We're back at our Charlie Sheen wrap up. We're doing once one a month. We're doing a proof of life where you and I get together and talk about Charlie Sheen.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Well, as long as he's around, we're around.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

It's like we're financially tied to where the two. We're one and a half of the men he's referring to in his old show. We called our podcast One and a Half Men and makes sense.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Half Men.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Half men.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Oh, well, we are doing a proof of life this week and which means we are not together. We are in our separate homes. You're in Los Angeles, I'm in New York. Which means that you will be hearing legit. What sounds like Foley artists doing background noise on an apartment in New York because the. It's a beautiful day.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

There's like kids playing. You hear like you Hear double Dutch happening outside your window.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

And yeah, there's an ice cream truck. There's. The Kawasakis are doing one Wheelers. You know, the whole. The neighborhood is bumping today.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. And if you hear like the Foley artists coming from my LA thing, it might sound like someone inhaling smoke and then jerking off. Like, that's ripping a fart and crying. That's just what's popping over here in la.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

It might sound like a protein bar. If my camera goes blank and it sounds like the crinkling of a protein bar, it's not what's happening.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

No, I'm not ne jamming down calories for no reason.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

They are, they are. The other day I was like, starving. Starving, you know, And I was like on set. And you just have to like, make. You're like, either I'm gonna eat now and then not eat dinner, or I'm gonna, like, grab something to hold me over for these next couple scenes and then I'm gonna go out to dinner, which is like my set routine. And I was like, I'll just grab one of these protein bars straight up. Each one had like 700 calories. They were all like, none of them. They were all like Oreo cookies and cream.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

I know. I. I try to save it as like a movie treat or a dessert. Like, I have like a little box of protein bars that I'll like, pull out. Cause I have. I'm like trying to teach my brain that that's a treat. But then when you get it, it's like, like, truly, I. I have like, it's a meal, well researched ones from my buddy Ryan, our former guest of the pod, Ryan Stanger. And he's like, these are like the least awful, but I wouldn't call these good. And it's like, which ones is. He likes to think bars. Yeah, he thinks that they think bars. Yeah, they have like, higher quality.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

The ones that are like. Are those. The ones that are like three eggs, one fig. No, that scoops one. Like, I like.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

That's Rx bar. I like those too, but those are disgusting.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Like, I like those.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Taste is good. Yeah.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

No, those. I like those. They have the cons. Those have the consistency of what I used to put in of like, resin.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, it's like. It's like butter with a D. It's. It's ice. Ice water, hash. No, I. I find them to be pretty good, but there's still like 300 calories and 20 grams of protein. And you're like, eat that after dinner. You're like, I just threw that down. But I guess like I'm going to. If I'm going to eat an abundance of calories, I guess high protein calories are probably. Look, this is a health and wellness podcast, but I'm not saying I know what I'm doing here, but.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

No, that goes without saying that I like a treat.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

And if I can have. I have these skinny dipped almonds. Almonds with just a little bit of chocolate and they, they are pretty.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Tell me what's. Tell me what you're doing to stay alive lately.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Oh, dude, lots.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

You look amazing. You look amazing. There's been some body transformation.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, I'm down to 2,285 pounds. I think I was like 3:15 or 3:20 when we started the show. Oh, my God.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

We in Flushing or is there just a smoke show going on?

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Are we in Flushing because there's. The bowl is full of diarrhea.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Are we flushing now? Are we letting it mellow because it's

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Yeah, what about mine? That looks like an alien trying to escape.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, what about mine? That looks mostly like a loogie.

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Mine looks like the outside of a pineapple.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

I've been doing. I was just on the road for like eight days traveling with the Doughboys, which means eating at fast food chains. But I was, I was better in my downtime than I have been in the past. I will say, I think that's if I can shout out our GLP1s the Zepbound. I think it's definitely hell. It's obviously helping me, but it, it really, the. The times I notice it is when I used to really, really cut loose. And I'll be in these situations again. Where previously I would be disgusting and now I'm like three shades below above disgusting. I'm just a little less disgusting than I would normally be. And it's very helpful. I'm like not feeling as awful of travel or not feeling like dog not going like, oh, cool, I'm going out to dinner with friends tonight. I guess tomorrow will be awash. I guess I'll just be like food hungover and mad at myself all day. So that's been good. And other than that, I've been trying to get my fitness in. I entered in a relay race this summer that I did a couple of years ago.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

And so now is that straight up like someone hands you a baton?

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

No, it's well, yeah, there is some kind of. It's like a, a medallion or so. I'm trying to remember exactly what we hand up. It's called the Hood to Coast htc. You run from Mount Hood to the Oregon to the coast of Oregon. It's like 200 and something miles, but you're on like a team. You're on like a team of 10 to 12 people. It takes 24 to 30 something hours and you're like leapfrogging with vans and sleeping in the van and sleeping in a tent and stuff like that. And I really had a blast doing it last time. I former guest of the pot and probably some of the dudes, like Nate Dern puts it together, he'll probably be a guest of the pod at some point. But Rogers, former guest of the pod is going to do it this year too. So this summer I've been, I went running for like the first time and God knows how long now I've been getting my cardio in swimming and, and metabolic conditioning and at the gym. But I hadn't gone running in forever and I did like an easy 2 miler and it was hard, but I felt the difference of being under 300 pounds when trying to run.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Oh yeah.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

It's like objectively I like it's. I took a bat, I took 30 pound backpack or front pack really off and started. And so it's a game changer to run weighing and oh, and because it was sunny and you know how I feel about the sun. I was running shirtless. You want to talk about like peak feeling yourself and confidence?

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Hell yeah.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

I was jogging shirtless. Of course. I live in West Hollywood so it feels like a safe place for big boys.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

I will warn you, don't go past those circular mirrors that people with dog

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

the rear view like the pulling out of driveway mirrors. No. Yeah, no.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

I've been feeling myself sometimes running like in Hamp Spot and I'll get shirtless and I'll be like damn dude, like you really got it together. And then you'll catch like a fun house angle like of a house that has no driveway and you're, you're like, you're trying to put on your wet T shirt out of your shorts.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

I had a couple of great. I ran past two different hot chicks. One of them high fived me and another clapped like this as I ran past, as I gave her the shotgun. Not the shocker people.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, you have to. I don't think you can just give people that on the street.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

One pinky in the stink pinky, one thumb in the comb.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

I guess that's why you're loved in West Hollywood.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

But I was like really feeling myself jogging. And then I like those two women. And I just kept. And then towards the end of the run I was like. I feel like they thought I was like on a Make a wish maybe. And they were like, wow, he's really doing it.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

I was gonna say soon you're not gonna be so brave soon. You're just gonna be like fit.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. And it's not gonna be a big deal to be jogging around. Like I'm gonna be like all these other tatted up baddies that jog around.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Although I still feel like. So I've been. I've been since New Zealand where I knew no one and had nothing to do in little time. I wasn't really eating miles, like running like crazy.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. Well, that's. You've always been able, like you've always been a decent runner. Like, and whether or not your form or your time. But like, you'll do it. I can do it. You'll actually do it, which is, yeah, all you really need. That's the only fucking motor you need to have is just.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

I really, I really like doing it in new cities, you know, like there's something really like Justin Tyler taught me that.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. When we were doing 101 play. Future guest of the pod and our good friend Justin Tyler, when we did 101 places that. That dude lives a pretty hardcore lifestyle. Hardcore. Like drinking and not sleeping. Yeah. But he runs five miles every. I was just in Phoenix with him and the dude is like, oh, I ran up that mountain this morning. It was. I mean, he's like, I had to stop and walk a bunch. I look at the mountain, it's like pure. It's vert.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

You're like, when did you run? No, I know. And like, so I've been doing that, that thing and I do this like supplemental thing that I really like, which is. And maybe I've talked about this or not, but every three minutes I will stop and do between 10 and 20 push ups and then on the street. Yeah. If I'm on the street.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Badass dog. Yeah, that's like kind of.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

But then I've been doing it in the gym too. Like, you know, because it's been so cold here. But today it's, it was nice. And so I like went out on the west side highway and like really, like I said, like bagged like six miles.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Good for you, dog.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

It was. I'm Sore. Like, my knees are sore, you know, and stuff. But I feel so much better now when doing. After doing it. It's like, truly since Randall was on, I feel like running has been part of my thing. But now I've.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Andrew. Andrew and Andrew and Ra really got me turned up, like, on the ideas of running.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Like, yeah, now I. I feel like I really need to do it because there will be a time and it may be very soon where I won't be able to.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Right. That's interesting. Yeah. I feel like I've always said, like, running it, you know, all you need is sneakers. You know what I mean? Like, you know, like, you could just walk out your front door and get a mile in or your hotel door or your vacation or whatever. And so I feel like running is important for that. But there's something like, I hadn't run for a long time, and I didn't think I wasn't like, completely out of shape. But running hits. Like, there's some kind of feeling to it, like when you do it because it is harder than what you normally do. And so when you do it, it just feels you're like, I accomplished something. And it's so quantifiable of like, I did three miles again today and I hurt less. Like, I'm doing.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Or if you're timing it, you're like, why did three miles even faster? Or I did six miles and I've never distance w. Like when I train for half marathons, like every Saturday, I added one mile to my run. Like, by the end, I'm like, I just ran nine miles and I'm like, I can never imagine doing that six months ago, but it's like, that's.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. But now I bet that seems like, oh, if I did that, like, I could do that in like six weeks, you know?

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Right. That's. That's how I feel. Like, start. Like, this race is at the end of August. We're recording this in the beginning of April. I'm like, oh, that's perfect. That's four months of. I'll just do a couple of runs a week. I'm trying to do like a two. A couple of two to three milers. And then like eventually get up to like one, five or six a week and just keep using that.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Well, dude, I would love to run with you next week. I'm.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Let's do it.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

I'm. I'm. And if you want add in, try to see if you can add in these push ups, because that's where I've Been incrementally adding because I hit. I only really have time wise an hour, you know, like with my schedule, with everything with the kids need and what I need and everything. I have like an hour from like 10 to 11 and I can get five between five and six miles in. In an hour.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Hell yeah.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

And to supplement that, dropping down and banging them out. Yeah. Because I find the treadmill, unless you're like going uphill, which I don't like doing, it's like really not the same experiences when you're outside.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Right. There's something, there's something special about it and I, I don't really know what, I don't know fully know what it is like. Well, yeah, it's childlike and it's objectively good for you to like brain wise and like emotion wise and mental health wise engage with the environment you live in too of like seeing people's faces, fresh air, smells, sun, your neighborhood or another neighborhood stimuli, you know, it's just better for you than the treadmill. I, I can't run on a treadmill. I can like walk on an incline if I'm listening to something or watching something, but just running on a treadmill does not appeal to me. Me.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

It's, it's hard. And that's why I added those push ups in because it was like my ADHD brain was like, okay, right.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Just got to get three minutes thing for a little bit. Yeah, Yeah.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

I would like get these chunks and if I was listening to a book or a podcast or, or, or Howard or something, I get down and you're like refreshed.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

So you get back up and then you can with the speed a little. You're like, oh, that was. Those three minutes were slow. I'll go up on these, I'll go down on these. It's like, it's like playing a game with yourself almost. And if you can do like 15 sets of those three with push ups, you end up doing like 150 push ups.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Which is like a lot. You're like, whoa. I'm like kind of, you know.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. If you did, if you did three push ups every time, that would be huge, you know.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Sure.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Like, yeah.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

And I'm sure there's another, there's science to it like that I was reading signs. Like if you really want to, if you re like your muscles only grow when you're like at ultimate, like you have to basically if you want to like get ripped from doing push ups, you have to. Every set you do, you have to

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

do it till exhaustion.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Right. Because it's the only way. Right. So it's like, I'm sure that my ten pushups equal, like one real push up.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Like a real mature push up.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. From what these guys are saying. But it still feels better to, like, move, change the purview of my face, you know?

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

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[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

I've also been trying to read again. And I've been trying to get back into reading because I really got mad at myself about how little I've been reading. For about 10 years, I've been listening to audiobooks and I read a book. So I've been trying to read one book a month. And we are in April and I am on my February book.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

You're like that meme that's like one day off weed. One day off weed.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

I do like, wait, that's one of my favorite memes where the guy keeps stepping. He's like, all right, first day not smoking weed. Okay, first day not smoking weed. But there's also another one where it's like the picture of a treadmill or like someone's feet on the treadmill. And it says like. Like three hours, celibate. Six hours, no booze, two hours, no sugar. I'm Locked the in or whatever. That is how I feel though. I'm like, all right, I took two days off weed. I haven't had a drink in three days. I've been eating salad for three days in a row. I'm fucking unstoppable.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. And then you're like, go out for a steak dinner.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yes, dude, I, I truly. Before I went on this little sojourn with the doughboys, I was on such a fucking dialed ins. I was feeling so fucking good, dude. I was laying, put my head on the pillow and just waking up the next morning, like no fucking tossing attorney. I was just like, that's how I

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

felt before my family got to New Zealand.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Oh, on week four of being alone, you finally were able to relax. I was locked, locked the fuck in. Okay, now foreign lunatics are arriving here. Time to engage.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

No, truly, I lost, lost. I lost like, I think I lost like £20 in, in four or five weeks. And people, people are like, what have you done differently your diet? I'm like, the only thing I took out was family.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Family.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Oh, pizza and family.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Well, yeah. I mean, in New Zealand, all their food, like, they have like such little processed, you know what I mean? Like, you're eating.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Nothing's processed. Everything's like, also like, it's dense. Like those meat pies. Like, oh, that's like eating a cheesesteak, you know? But like the other food is like a lot of fresh fish. It's kind of Mediterranean diet style.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Grass, all the meats, like grass and

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

a lot of lamb.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, they're crazy.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

And like, I just was like, not eating pizza. And the pizza's terror. What they call pizza is like, like Italians must not have made it to New Zealand.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

I can imagine why they haven't gotten there. It seems a little fun why they've.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Columbus was out looking for everything else.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He probably would have accidentally ended up there. If he was looking for America, he would have ended up there because we know how it happened when he was trying to go to India.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Well, they should have told him. They would have been like, no, you're headed. You're heading that way, Columbus. You know what I am. They get my name wrong. A compass. A Christopher compass.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Try this out. Hey, Chris, you might want to try. This is like the weird, like Christopher Columbus origin story. That's like 11 episodes on Netflix. Hey, Columbus, good luck trying to read your astrolabe. You're like, what?

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, I heard you call that Efron playing Columbus. He's like, he's still doing Like a high pitch. He's like, oh, what do you say to me? Come closer.

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[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

You say this to my face.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Columbus was Italian, sailing on behalf of Spain, but spoke English with an Italian accent.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

And then it's like gangs in New

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

York met Native Americans, called them Indians. Was so fucking confused. This guy,

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

he's truly Christopher Columbus is Mr. Magoo.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

I love how much the Sopranos, like, go to bat for Columbus. Like, in that they're like, this is anti Italian discrimination. Like, that's such a funny angle. Like, to be so mad about Chris Columbus. It's so like, he did sail on behalf of Spain. Like, it's so funny. It's like he was arguably a casino. And I, I believe, and I'm speaking out of turn here, but if you don't take my word on health advice on this podcast, definitely don't take my word on historic.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

I think it goes without saying that we don't know what we're saying.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, yeah. You're not listening to this for, like takeaway information, but I'm pretty sure the reason Columbus had to sail on behalf of Spain was because he like, up and like, lost a bunch of money for Italy on like three previous adventures

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

at the tiny monkey in this Sicily took up my money. I got distracted. A monkey play or Cory and I get distracted. What have you been eating?

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Oh, dude, I.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Any other snacks like that you've been. That you've been.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Those, those skinny dipped chocolates. Skinny dipped almonds, which is like chocolate covered almonds with just a light coating of chocolate. Those have been ripping for me. I really like those. Trader Yo's or no Whole Foods? I think they're called undipped or undipped. Yeah. Well, that's just close. The closest to my house and I do. I do like shot there is.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Are they cool when you run in shirtless, bro?

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

I have put my shirt on. Walking up to the Whole Foods parking lot, I'm like, don't worry, chief, I'm holding it. All right. Did you just.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Do you jump out of the top of your Nissan Z or do you crawl through the window,

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

bro, Are you kidding? My is Geo side. Geo tracker. Suzuki Sidekick is the word I was looking for my lip, amigo with no roof. I just pop out of those roller skate cars.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

It would suck. It would the same with the Wrangler too. Like, all my friends would get in high school in Jersey would get like a Wrangler and they'd be like, it's the only SUV that's also a convertible. And I'D be like, dude, it's not a convertible. If you need you and three laborers to take off the top at a, like. And they would do it at stoplights. They would, like, pull up to a stoplight and then you would see them. It would be like a pit crew. Italian kids jump out and take the hood off and then, like, throw it on someone's yard.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, the big hard top, too, is just like this enormous. When I was in Maui, I rented a Jeep Wrangler and I was like, taking the roof off. Took. Took the roof off at the rental place. Got like, just driving to the hotel. Got stuck in such insane traffic. I was fried from the sun in, like, no time.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Like an egg, a literal egg in a pan.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

I just. I got so cooked. I had like a seatbelt strap, tan line across my shoulder. Got to the hotel, pulled up, and I said, do me a favor. And I gave the guy an extra. An extra $20. I said, put the roof back on this thing for me. It took me forever to get off. He's like, sure.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

A Wrangler is not a convertible.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

It is not convenient. Dude, it's a Wrangler. Someday I will be rich enough to have a second car that is just an absolute, you know, no doors, no roof beater that I just bust out for, like, going to the farmer's market or like, whatever six mile errand it.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Can I tell you something? Those always break down.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

I know, always. But that's part of it. You need every rich friend.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Every rich friend actor I've ever had. Mostly they have no children. Who gets one of those, like, old Broncos that are getting like, like, you know where they're like, oh, I gotta steal on this. They go to find it in, like, Palos Verdes and then they drive it back and they're like, this is just gonna be my Santa Monica car.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Just gonna be.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

When I go to the beach, I'll just be. Every single one of them gets towed from Santa Monica.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Oh, yeah. I mean, they're, like, barely street legal. I know some. Some real richos who got, like old school cars like that and then redo the inside. Dude. And that's fucking crazy. Like, a dude buys a vintage Land Cruiser and puts, like a Porsche engine in it, and it's like you have

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

to do the engine right, right?

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, that's the big one. Because then you just, like reset the mileage. You know what I mean? It's like now the engine has zero miles on it. It's a brand new, like, more efficient. That's the other thing too, when you get like the Jeep Grand Wagoneer, like, with the wood panels, which I always loved. That shit gets like six miles to the gallon. And a gallon of gas is like 11 bucks right now.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

I drove one of those in throwback. They also don't have power steering.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Which is a shock.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

You're like driving a fucking boat to and doing it three point.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Your arms are like yoked when you get out.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

I saw. I saw a dude driving past the grove. Huge jacked black guy with fucking awesome statement sunglasses sitting in a chopped off Wagoneer with the wood panels. And he was tall enough that his head was like above the windshield. And he just looked like a fucking GI Joe guy in like a cool fucking Woody. I was like. I honked and gave him like, the shock. I was like, sick fucking car. And he just kind of like gave me a cool black dude nod. And I was like, I'm overreacting.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

What's with everyone in West Hollywood sticking their fingers in my ass?

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Hey, one in the pink, one in the stink. That's plenty for me.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

You're gonna get your own neighborhood T shirt called the Shocker. You're gonna be on the Shocker.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

The Shaka, by the way, is something I started doing like kind of ironically, like 10 years ago and has now just fully been into my life. That I do it all the time. I do it in photos with people and shit.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Are you allowed? I say that honestly. Like, is it okay?

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Am I culturally appropriating? Is that what you're asking?

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Well, it's just. It's just one of those things where,

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

like, find out it's like a white power symbol or some shit like that.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Look at like your whole page and they're like,

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

this guy's got stolen Polynesian valor or whatever.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

And half of it you are in a grass skirt.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Right? To be fair, I found this. This is my Shaka theory. I. I found I first highlighter. I'm sorry. Yeah. I first. I first found. Started doing the Shaka with some of the guys I used to lifeguard with would do it.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

And then I think that's fair because, like, that's. I think that's open. Open. I think the beach is like, this is allowed.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

And then a surf instructor here is doing it. And then a couple of the Aussies and Kiwis I played rugby with in New York. And then I was scuba diving. I took my scuba cert with my buddy Paul, who's an Australian rugby player friend of mine. We were doing the. And like, the Instructor kept doing the Shaka. He kept just being like, great work, guys. And then me and Yummy, my friend Paul, we were talking about, I was like, yum. I'm starting to notice that the more activities I do, the more, the more things I'm like, this is something I always wanted to do. The Shaka is I'm like, am I low key, aiming to spend more time with people who do the Shaka unironically? And I think that might be the case now. I'm overanalyzing this in a way that is like insane. But I do think the pursuit of the Shaka of the hang loose is just might be the right move for me.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Like every time I Are you the secreting? Are you the secreting? Your Hang 10 lifestyle by. Yeah, man. Are you manifesting it by filtering out people in your life that don't respond in kind?

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Oh, I wonder. I think I'm okay with that for now. I, I, I should be filtering out some more people from my life.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

So I don't know if I gotta

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

get off like not talking to your lawyer because he didn't give you the shocker.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Come on, Grace Callous, get your together.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

It's like I, I didn't know what you were doing.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

I, I say, hey, Utah, make it too.

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[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

It's rolling into my life and I think I'm gonna get way more stolen island Valor. I met the. I did an episode of Doughboys with the wrestler Samoa Joe and he's Samoan. And we were going on and on about how what we had in common. He used to play rugby. He's like, he bullies Mitch all these. He's a big boy. He was wearing a Hawaiian shirt and a G shock and shorts in the show like I was. And we kept talking and then I go and also. So we're both islanders and he's like, pacific, Pacific long. You know, they're, they're both islands. Hey, you know, we, we have a couple of bridges, but you know, come on now, dog.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

There's bridges in the Pacific.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, I mean, I know, but not from like, not from Samoa to like Tonga. They don't got, they don't got the Tri Borough or the Whitestone.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

That's my, my family's Columbus Bridge of the Malatunga.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

My Columbus family just got on the boat, was like, we're all going to be stagehands. Next stop, Astoria.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Follow the Brits.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Hey, let's go here and try to be called white as soon as possible.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Some of these Brits are going to need light, lighting.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, we're gonna, we need to light these. And hey, I hear you. Also the abundance of cows in, in the US when they came here, the Italians went hand. That's why they made those. Started making giant meatballs because they were like, look at all this meat we can have. It's like making a basketball sized meatball to cook in the Sunday gravy.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Papa, why you go west? Because of my son.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

The cows are as big as cows. There is no gout in America. God, I haven't thought of an American tale in forever until you just said that. Now I can't stop thinking about poor little Fievel. There are no cats In America. What have we got? We got our episode taken down because we're singing copyrighted music so shittily, people

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

are like, oh, yeah, Why? I assume they were like doing some kind of geese impression or something. Like, no, F goes west.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

They were singing An American Tale. An American tale When a mouse is

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

looking for what's next?

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Oh, somewhere out there. Song and lyrics by Linda Ronstadt that she. Hell yeah.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Good for her.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Good for her. I'm glad to see Linda bringing home the fuck.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Finally wrote a hit.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Ok, hold on. I'm looking at the song list for American Tale on Wikipedia.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

I like that. On other podcasts, this is where a lot of abuse happens, I've noticed this is where a lot of the, like, toxic male abuse happens in podcasting. Right now is when someone goes like, bring that up for me, Mitch. Hey, Mitch, you're producing the show, right? We'll get it up. Because now you're gonna cut this all out, right? Like, it's like there's always this tension between the clip getting and the.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Oh, you're saying some of these podcast hosts might have gone a little mad with power and believe themselves to be the political soothsayers of the future. And, and that their opinions that they're coming to by talking to members of the Trump family are good. Interesting opinions, people. Fucking podcasts fucking suck, dog. We got to get out of this thing. We got out of this business. We got to fucking open up an aquarium. I think we would be fucking an aquarium. Well, yeah, it'll, it'll eventually be that. No, it's for gay fish only. Can't sit here. Straight fish, one fish, two fish. Buy fish. They them fish.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

I haven't said anything informat.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

I'm just rattling off my Dr. Seuss. My Woke Dr. Seuss books. No, I just went to, I went to an aquarium in Epcot and I.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Did you?

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, the Finding Nemo ride has like a little aquarium attached to it.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Did you do like drinking around Epcot?

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

I did. I, I, I was randomly in Florida doing gigs with the Doughboys, as I've now said, like 11 times. I just got back, so sorry, it's on the mind, but my brother and his kids were randomly going to be there on a Sunday, so I moved my flight back and crashed at their Airbnb and went to Epcot with my nephews because it's their favorite park and it's my brother's favorite park. And I found out why that is the case. We drank drink. We drank a beer in every country. It was awesome.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. You start. Yeah, that. I'm. I. The only reason I would want to go back to Disney is to do Epcot and a drinking day.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. And I highly recommend you take the kids if they like rides on Guardians. Guardians. The really ride was fucking awesome.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

I don't know how that fits at Epcot.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

It doesn't.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

It should be in the regular park.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

It should be. Or like, I thought Epcot was supposed

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

to be, like, learning future.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. But, like, that's what I remembered as a kid. But now it seems like it's like, people really like it for some reason in.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, but so what is it now? Like, it's just movie rides. It's like, set.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

No, that's the only. There's like a Finding Nemo ride. There's a Coco ride. There's Test Track. The race we had to. That one shut down while we were on it. There's the Mission to Earth and Mission to Mars. There's the.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Those seem more Epcot.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, that's. That's much more Epcot.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

By Ellen.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

No. Figment of your imagination is voiced by Eric Idle. And figment is like a little purple dragon. That's like an imaginary ride. That one. That one's cute.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Figment.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. You go through the. The senses. It was really fun being there. Like, obviously you're a dad, so you experience this, but, like, just getting to go to something that. I'm like, I don't give a shit about this. And just seeing the kids go crazy for it. I was like, oh, but I don't like waiting in lines. You know who really doesn't like waiting in lines? Neurodivergent kids.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

I don't know how.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Like, I was like, I'm like, how do we expect this kid to wait 75 minutes to do test track? Like, I don't even want to give him a phone. Yeah. Well, that's so many kids playing Heads up. The phone game where you put it on your forehead in line there. It was. It was awesome.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Of course, like, that's the. That's the bummer about those parks is like, it's sensory overload. But in order to enjoy it, they have to go into, like, screen zone.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. You have to be like, okay, just stand by for 60 minutes. Then we can have two minutes. So fun. I'm like, what is this?

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

And then they're, like, blurred by it, and they go right back to the screen. They're like, I'd rather hear the conspiracy.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

I'd rather play Roblox. Yeah. Like, oh, okay.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, it's wild. I was in Boston for three days.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Ooh.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Gigi's volleyball tournament over Easter, and it was the most volleyball team. First of all, like, teenage volleyball is a huge thing. It's annoying.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yes.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

I didn't know how big it is. There's, like, this was in. This was in the convention center. There were over a hundred courts going at the same time. Like, it was pandemonium. And I. I just sat there and watched Gigi lose every game. All the squeaking and the whistling for, like, eight hours. And your daughter's just getting her ass handed to her by every team. Team. And that's a hard.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

A hard thing to learn when you're younger. Is that lose. Like, losing is a huge part of playing sports.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. And she's, like, bummed and pissed. And I was like, yeah, yeah.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Losing sucks. It always does. It's part of it.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, that's part of it. But, like, watching it, you're just like, you. There was part of me. It's like, can we just give her a participation trophy? And there's, like, a thousand other kids.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Like, couldn't we just skip this whole turn?

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Truly. And now. So she's got another one coming up, and I'm, like, trying to talk out of it. I'm almost to the point where I'm like, how much money could I give you?

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Here's a thousand dollars to. Let's just skip this one for the weekend, please.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Is that a bad core memory?

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, that'll. That'll be.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

What's worse. When daddy puked in front of you from alcohol or when he offered you money to skip your volleyball tournament.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Both are in a. Put her in a very specific form of therapy that, you know, she'll. She'll. She'll get the right help and she'll be fixed, but.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Well, I've been hearing that for you years.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

I mean, I've been dropping a pretty dime on Lawrence month after month, and I'm still twisted. Are you watching anything fun or listening to any new. I'm so. No, I listen on music.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

I. Geese. I like, still. I'm just, like, still in the phase.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

They rip. That's.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

They rip. And I really like his solo album and the. The album before this one, so. Just been, like, listening to a lot of that. And no, I'm like. Haven't consumed much of any. Like, Truly haven't consumed much of anything. I feel like I am dead. I feel like I'm a dead. Like, a walking carcass of culture, and you know what I mean? Like, I feel like I've been.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

This is the most dramatic thing. I haven't been able to watch a movie or TV show in a while. I feel dead.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Well, no, I haven't gone out to eat. I don't know what's good. Food is like, like all that stuff. Like I've just been like at volleyball tournaments for like.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

You got back from New Zealand and had to like ramp up. Like, I got back from New Zealand, three spring breaks back to back to

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

back, instantly thrown into like ultra dad mode. And, and which I love and I'm happy and excited about. But I like the. When you're at, when you start to get to this moment, you're like, I don't. This is like the first like conversation I've had with an adult in the Wild Mile.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

You know, like most of my conversations are bargaining.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. I was gonna say you tried to bribe me with saying like, I could sleep over my friend's house next Saturday.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

That's what most of my conversations are like.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Like truly, you just negotiate.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Pick me up here and if, if you meet me here, can we. Can we go there and can. And I'm like, yeah. Yes, yes, yes.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Well, I, I have a recommendation for you. HBO Max. One of our favorite streamers because it used to have 101 places and it does have your stand up special on it. They have a show called Neighbors. It's really fucking good. It's a docu series following beefs between two neighbors. And they are. It is a fucking. They're always just some weird crazy reveal. Halfway through. They got. They found great fucking people. And it's really reflective of the modern times. Like people are angry, they're online too much. They have no reason to hate their neighbor. But they do. And it's over the pettiest. And you realize people are just lonely, sad and bored. But they fight like crazy. It's real. It's like I. I watched the first four. I think there's six episodes and everyone.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

There's a good team behind it too, right?

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. I don't know who the dudes are but. Or the people are. But they make fun. They. They made a good docu series, found great people shot the out of it. They do this cool thing where they do like a warped view every time someone goes on the computer or goes on their phone. And it like helps you like realize how up like it's. I highly recommend it to our listeners, but especially to you ad like it's just a really well made docu series and it's funny and up and voyeuristic in a cool way.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

I mean, you're speaking more language, kid. I mean, I'm. I am into that. And if you know what I've. You know what I like?

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

What?

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Fruit jerky.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Fruit jerky? The snack?

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Oh, dude. Yeah. I. I mean, I was like, let me just double check. This isn't like some twitch streamer that you love. This is your only. The number one person you support on only fans is fruit turkey. Fruit jerky. They just took themselves off while eating mango and.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

It's like a Tom Holland in a, in a wig.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Now, fruit jerky. Are we talking like the way dried mango, like his dried mango is like one of my favorite snacks.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Well, the thing I like about them is that, is that you can get like a cherry mango, pineapple and that they say there's only one ingredient, but it's nice because, like, you'll eat it and then in the inside of big. You just ate half a pineapple example. You just ate 10 cherries. You just had, you know, two main cycles.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

You're like, oh, it's like grown up Fruit roll ups. Yeah, yeah, that. I'm into it. Fruit turkey.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Fruit leather jerky.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, I like that.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Send me a bunch, please. I don't even know if they're a real business. They might be called something else. And I call them fruit jerky, bro.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

I have like 20 things like that in my life. When I'm trying to explain to someone else, like, what are you talking about? I'm like, oh, sorry. That's what I call it. It's like, well, that doesn't help this communication here, pal.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Yeah. Oh, what you screaming out?

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

What?

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Oh, sorry. That's what I call flying.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Sorry. Because I used to fly on Starscream. The, the Decepticon. Also the. Not that everything I like is like docu, but the new jury duty is fun too. Company retreat. A few. Few blasts on the show. Too cool is in it pop up. Jim woods is one of the employees. And Rob Lacey. Lathan. Dude.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, I heard Lathan kills.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Lathan kills. They all kill. Everyone kills. And the mate, whoever cast the last two jury duties, whoever found the guy, the person that is being like fooled, they. This, this new guy, Anthony is a fucking dream. He's like a godsend. Like, you just. You just love him. And he's so on. He's so game for everything in a really interesting way. Like the prep. Like he's a temp. And then they have to go on a company retreat. Like Right after he gets hired as a temp and they just set up all drama that's happening. And he's just such a through and through good guy. It's so awesome to, like, watch someone be fooled into showing off how great they are. Like, he's like, unbeknownst to him, he's just being absolutely magnanimous and charming the whole time.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

It's under, no missteps, dude.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

He just, like, everyone else has given him all these opportunities, but even when it's like, really? And he never feels inauthentic because he laughs when things are too up, he's like, jesus, man. Like, and it's like, it's just, it's really good. I'm on like episode seven of nine right now and can't I. I can't wait till they reveal to him what they did. Like, the prank.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Like, that's, that's always the part that makes me uncomfortable.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

It is hard. It is hard. But if you never made them look bad, that's important, you know, like, they're setting him up. They're giving him opportunities to be the hero. There some really. I don't even want to tell you some of the, the gags that they get to, but they get after it. It's a good time. Time.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

I'm excited.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Can't wait. Can't wait. So you think you're going to do dcm?

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

I think I'm going to be in town for Del Host marathon. I'm. I'm talking to the, the new people in charge over at Touring and producing over there and hoping if, you know, I'll do a few shows in exchange for a flight in hotels and, and a reason to do whippets with you or whatever. Staying alive. Stay alive. I it up, damn it.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Stay alive.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Fine. You have been listening to Staying Alive with John Gabris and Adam Pali, a Smartless media production in association with Sirius xm.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Produced by Devin Tory Bryant and Anne Harris. Engineered and edited by Devin Tory Bryant, who also wrote the music.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Associate producer and video producer is Matty McCann. Social media producer Tommy Galgano.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Assistant engineer Kyle McGraw. Special thanks to Jared O' Connell at SiriusXM.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Executive producers are John Gabris. Ooh, me. Adam Pali. Ooh, you Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Richard Courson and Bernie Kaminski. Do us a favor. Just rate and review the podcast. It actually helps.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

Just so everyone knows, we do not have a discord.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

Don't reach out to us.

[Andrew (Podcast Host)]

See us on the street. Walk the other way or you'll catch Hands.

[Mitch (Podcast Host)]

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