Reload: Breakfast & Broken Bones (w/ Ego Nwodim)

Summary

Staying Alive with Jon Gabrus & Adam Pally

Episode: "Reload: Breakfast & Broken Bones" (w/ Ego Nwodim)

Date: March 12, 2026
Guest: Ego Nwodim (Saturday Night Live, comedian, actor)

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Episode Overview

This extended cut episode of Staying Alive features comedian and SNL cast member Ego Nwodim, joining hosts (and best friends) Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally for a candid, hilarious, and sometimes surprisingly deep conversation about food, wellness, narcissism, work-life balance, comedy careers, upbringing, and the realities of aging and self-care. With Ego recovering from a recent shoulder dislocation, the trio riff about staying healthy when your job and lifestyle aren’t always conducive to it, offering both irreverent laughs and genuine insights into health, relationships, and the entertainment industry.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ego’s Approach to Food and Breakfast (02:50–05:25, 08:33–12:01, 52:38–54:11)

• Brunch with Ego: The hosts joke about how brunch with Ego is like getting an IV—“If you've never had brunch with Eggo, it's basically like getting an IV.” —Jon Gabrus [02:58]
• Ego confesses she has no appetite in the mornings, often snacking until bedtime. She prefers dinner over breakfast and despises breakfast meetings.
  • “Breakfast is the weakest link of meals. The weakest.”—Ego Nwodim [04:11]
• The group riff on the “clean your plate” mentality and why they're particular about not wasting calories on bad meals.
  • “Life is too short to eat bad food.”—Ego Nwodim quoting a friend [51:06]
• Ego’s hot take: “Breakfast, wack as fuck to me. I also, hot take, don't fuck with cereal... There's so much good food in the world. I'm kind of disappointed that that's what I'm having.” [53:08, 53:29]

2. Wellness Routines, Fitness, & Recovery (33:48–40:46, 36:09–40:44, 67:04–68:44)

• Ego describes dislocating her shoulder in the NYC subway (“Final Destination style”) and how it’s forced her to reassess her previously intense Pilates workouts (Solidcore).
  • “I'm so crazy and I'm so addicted to it ... even though the whole workout is on your shoulders and it's planking. The doctor was like, ‘Do not do that.’” —Ego [36:44]
• Discusses the compulsion toward high-intensity exercise versus the need for balance, especially as work/life gets more demanding.
  • Her friend's advice: "You don't need to be doing that intensive a workout ... your cortisol spikes." [36:12–36:44]
• The importance of injury rehab: “If you do get hurt, rehab it. Go by Eggo, not Eggo's mom.” —Adam Pally [66:33]
• Quick fitness wisdom: “Push, pull, squat. That's a good workout. It doesn't have to be like an hour and a half—if you can do three sets of squats, push-up, and a pull, that's a good workout.” —Jon Gabrus [68:12]

3. Performing, Narcissism, and the Industry (09:32–14:51)

• Ego and the hosts dig into their mental health and how the entertainment industry fosters “Olympics of personality disorders,” especially in LA.
  • “LA is like the Olympics of personality disorders.” —Ego [13:27]
• Candid admissions about insecurity and needing constant validation, with Gabris working on “inverse narcissism” in therapy.
  • “It is a narcissistic part of me … the fact that I would think everything is about me or my behavior.” —Jon Gabrus [10:20]
• How comedy and showbiz encourage both narcissism and self-deprecation.
  • “We're all a little narcissistic though too, by the way.” —Ego [12:01]

4. Upbringing and Family Pressures (30:18–33:40)

• Ego discusses growing up in a Nigerian household with an embedded drive for success, and her single mother’s pragmatic perspective on school and achievement.
  • “Nigerian households are very ... yes, driven.” —Ego [30:30]
• Conversation about generational expectations, the difference between immigrant, Italian-American, and Jewish approaches to hustle, education, and family.

5. Food Obsessions, Eating Philosophy, and Set Life (44:51–49:26, 47:15–51:13, 59:38–61:33)

• The trio compare notes on artisanal junk food, expensive “organic” treats, and the importance of only spending calories on quality.
  • “If I'm gonna eat something that is not considered healthy, I'll upcharge for, like, the organic ... this guy is making it the way he wants.” —Adam Pally [47:04]
• On set catering and food trucks: everyone agrees catering is usually bland (“everything is just brown”) to limit complaints, while food trucks bring genuine joy.
  • “When on set, I pretend I have a personal chef. I eat the healthiest I’ve ever eaten ... Then you get to that fourth day and they're like, ‘We're doing a burrito truck.’ And I'm like, fill my ass with alcohol.” —Adam Pally [59:59]
• Planning, obsessing, and talking about menus is half the fun of eating—Ego and the group relate to always thinking about the next meal.

6. Working and Eating Habits (Work/Life Balance)

• Ego walks through her chaotic schedule at SNL, balancing workouts with intense all-night rewrites, and why some high-intensity classes are sometimes too much mid-week.
  • “Tuesdays ... I don't need someone yelling at me with loud music and blue lights ... Solidcore already is intense.” —Ego [47:36]
• All admit to late-night eating, food “binging” after work, and struggles with eating on set without falling into unhealthy habits.

7. Chicago & Travel Food Recommendations (56:10–58:24, 61:38–64:19)

• Detailed talk about Chicago restaurants: Girl & the Goat (“thought it would be overrated, but it was legit”), Trivoli Tavern (“my favorite for vibes”), and Ooi (“my sister-in-law told me about it, and my friend from Chicago says that’s the spot.”) —Ego [56:16–58:07]
• Italy as an ideal filming location, with stories about shooting in Cinque Terre and eating regionally famous pesto.
  • “Italy, that’s where I come alive. He took us also…you have to have pesto in the region where pesto was created.” —Ego [62:12]

8. Advice & Takeaways

• If you get injured, rehab it and don’t be a hero—“Do as my mom says, not as she does.” —Ego [66:50]
• Make health and movement a regular part of life while young, so it’s easier later.
  • “I want to have grace and compassion...If I can do it differently than she did...I want to make [fitness] a part of my life now.” —Ego [40:03]
• Tiny advice for fitness: "Something—even five minutes—is better than zero." —Adam Pally quoting Stanger [68:27]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On LA culture: “LA is the Olympics of personality disorders.” —Ego Nwodim [13:27]
• On validation seeking: “It is a narcissistic part of me ... the fact that I would think everything is about me or my behavior.” —Jon Gabrus [10:20]
• On food: “Life is too short to eat bad food.” —Ego Nwodim [51:06]
• On addictive fitness: “I'm so addicted to the workout that with my injury ... I was like, but maybe I can still, like, pull it off.” —Ego [36:44]
• On breakfast: “Breakfast, wack as fuck to me. I also, hot take, don't fuck with cereal.” —Ego [53:08]
• On set catering: “Why is everything dry? ... They're feeding so many people that they want the least complaints.” —Gabrus & Ego [60:24–60:42]
• On obsession with menus: “Every time Mikey Day looked over at your phone ... you’re looking at menus, and it’s real. I’m always planning what I’m gonna eat.” —Ego Nwodim [49:26]
• On recovery: “If you do get hurt, rehab it. Go by Eggo, not Eggo’s mom.” —Adam Pally [66:33]

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Important Timestamps

• Open banter, green juices, brunch attitudes: 00:36–03:09
• Food/meal routines and breakfast hate: 03:29–06:01, 52:38–54:11
• Dental/doctor avoidance & shame: 05:13–06:46
• Dating and emotional check-ins: 07:37–11:05
• On narcissism in entertainment: 12:01–14:51
• Growing up in different cultures: 30:18–33:40
• Fitness, injury, and obsessive wellness: 33:48–40:44, 67:04–68:44
• Artisan vs junk food, food values: 44:51–47:15
• On work/life at SNL, eating and exercise: 47:15–49:26, 54:12–56:09
• Chicago & travel recs: 56:09–58:24
• Italy and international productions: 61:38–64:19
• Closing advice—rehab and "push, pull, squat": 66:33–68:44

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Guest & Hosts: Dynamic & Tone

• **Playful, honest, and grossly forthcoming—**the humor and warmth among the hosts and Ego makes this episode feel like eavesdropping on old friends who are both accomplished and willing to be neurotic or vulnerable for laughs.
• Self-deprecating takes on health, routine, and the challenges of adulthood undergird the lighthearted banter.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode is a fast-moving, joke-packed, and revealing window into the everyday lives and weird health journeys of comedians who, despite fame, deal with the same hang-ups and setbacks as anyone else. If you want a mix of comedy, actual wisdom about health, and behind-the-scenes showbiz real talk—with frank chat about narcissism, breakfast shame, expensive pastries, fitness injuries, and the perils of set catering—this is a must-listen, and Ego Nwodim shines as a guest who keeps it as real as she is hilarious.

Transcript

[Announcer]

Smart.

[John Gabris]

Hey, everybody.

[Adam Pally]

Hey, what's up? It's us. Long distance. The staying alive boys. We're still alive. And you might not think we are. Cause we're re airing some old episodes, but we thought we'd throw out some of our favorites, you know, with a little extended cut, adding back in some bits that got trimmed for time, and, you know, giving you guys the whole shebang.

[John Gabris]

And we got this episode, one of my favorite.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And it. It stars the. The amazingly talented and beautiful and hilarious Eggos and Adam.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, sorry. Yeah, yeah. And also our guest.

[John Gabris]

I should have said that first. Let's do that again and do it the way you want it and see how it goes.

[Adam Pally]

It starts. The beautiful and talented us. And then some friend of ours named Echo.

[John Gabris]

No, we were. We're lucky that she even let us say she's a friend of ours.

[Adam Pally]

Y. I know. As a matter of fact, I think we're getting another cease and desist from our people.

[John Gabris]

Is that what those CDS were?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. I thought. I thought they were at Columbia house. I thought we were getting.

[John Gabris]

I thought we were getting actual CDs.

[Adam Pally]

So enjoy our. Our original and extended interview with Ego Wodom. I got a little Casey Casem there. Yeah, hold on. We're doing sh. To get the day popping.

[John Gabris]

I got you a green juice.

[Ego Wodom]

You did? Oh, my gosh. God bless you.

[John Gabris]

Of course.

[Adam Pally]

Holy. Happy belated. What's up, baby?

[Ego Wodom]

How you doing?

[Adam Pally]

Thank you for doing this.

[Ego Wodom]

Thank you for having me. Good to see you, too.

[John Gabris]

I didn't know if you would have stopped to get juice or anything.

[Ego Wodom]

This is from my fridge. I will have that.

[John Gabris]

I figured you would want.

[Ego Wodom]

This was in my fridge, and it's not what I want.

[Adam Pally]

I fig.

[John Gabris]

I figured. You want a pressy.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah. Thank you.

[John Gabris]

A loose. Yeah. And we don't do. No, you can put your shit there.

[Ego Wodom]

We.

[John Gabris]

And we don't do, like, intros or outros. So once you sit down, it's just like.

[Ego Wodom]

It's happening.

[John Gabris]

It's happening.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. No, you have your time.

[Ego Wodom]

Take your time. So I shouldn't talk about anyone?

[John Gabris]

Well, I mean, welcome.

[Adam Pally]

I mean, we have final cut. We can tell these guys, like, you know, when angle was going off about Carl Tart.

[John Gabris]

Leave that in, Jake.

[Ego Wodom]

I actually should go off about Carl.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, let's get some.

[Adam Pally]

I got some shit.

[John Gabris]

I got some. Actually, you know what?

[Ego Wodom]

I already went off about Carl Tart

[John Gabris]

last week, so we're gonna get into that.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, on mar. Does Eggo have all 12 of her beverages? And we're ready to go cracking.

[Ego Wodom]

I mean, you know, I'm a veggie.

[John Gabris]

I even brought one for her.

[Ego Wodom]

Yes. And I'm gonna be having that.

[John Gabris]

Having brunch with ego.

[Adam Pally]

We're taking two pee breaks in this 45 minute conversation.

[John Gabris]

If you've never had brunch with Eggo, it's basically like getting an iv.

[Adam Pally]

Yes.

[Ego Wodom]

And also me yelling, as you know, every time I eat.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, yeah. No, no.

[Ego Wodom]

I was tired of people not eating and asking me to dinner. I'm like, don't ask me to dinner.

[John Gabris]

The first time we went out, Eggo, Ego asked me. She was like, you eat right? And I started laughing. I was like, you're in the right place.

[Ego Wodom]

I'm like, I don't want to hear about the diet you're on. I'm not doing anything.

[Adam Pally]

I'm not here for that. Well, we're not. At least not at this meal.

[Ego Wodom]

No, not here.

[John Gabris]

In fact, Gabrist and I, the last time we went out to. To dinner, we had sugarfish and we, like, ran through one of the. Or you know how you order. Like, we ran through it right away and we theorized, you know, if we, like, really didn't eat all day, I bet we could go through two of these, tops, back to back.

[Adam Pally]

We were trying to debate if we could do a third and split it or if we could do two to the dome each. Like, trust me. And then be like, yo, I still trust you.

[Ego Wodom]

I really, really trust you.

[John Gabris]

Actually, I don't trust you to bring me enough sushi.

[Adam Pally]

Rack up negimaka, baby.

[Ego Wodom]

I'm here for it. Because people don't eat. And I'm like, I'm not into that.

[John Gabris]

I hate a breakfast meeting.

[Ego Wodom]

Also, breakfast is the weakest link of meals. The weakest. I think. I. Gabris, don't.

[Adam Pally]

Here's the thing I like about breakfast. When I go. Going out for breakfast seems like an insane treat.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

That's not something I ever like. I'm like, if I'm up early and I have to meet somebody.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And I'm having bacon, eggs, coffee, juice.

[John Gabris]

And that's what I hate about a breakfast meeting.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Because mostly you get a breakfast meeting, someone's like, oh, let's meet at, like, the Earth Caf or, like, some, like, trendy place. You're like, great. And you get there. And similarly, if I'm going out for breakfast.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And there's. There's an option to where it's like, things are being offered to me in this situation, I'm never gonna pick, like,

[Adam Pally]

I'm good with just a coffee and

[John Gabris]

no, that is my chance to like go in.

[Ego Wodom]

So if someone's here's my thing is I'm not. I don't have an appetite in the morning because I'm eating up until the minute I close my eyes. And I'm serious. I will floss and brush my teeth for bed and be like, and now I need a be treat after with the mint foot. 100% will have a sweet treat in my bed.

[Adam Pally]

Chocolate mint.

[John Gabris]

Chocolate mint.

[Adam Pally]

I'm very similar, but minus the toothbrushing and flossing.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah, you just go to bed, your shit's rotting.

[Adam Pally]

I just ride that shit every morning is good enough for me.

[John Gabris]

So you do a 30 minute brush in the morning?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, well, to be honest, I just brush until I spit blood every morning and then I'm Gucci.

[Ego Wodom]

Have you been to the dentist anytime in the last year?

[Adam Pally]

I'm overdue, but I still go every six months. And I will like to say I have had zero cavities in my life. Wow.

[John Gabris]

In your lifetime.

[Adam Pally]

I've never had a cavity. My mom was worked in a dentist's office before she became a nurse when I was like a real kid. So like we got free cleanings and I kind of got it instilled in me, but I still don't like flossing

[Ego Wodom]

well because it's horrible. Like when you go to the dentist and you haven't flossed for a long time, then it's blood mouth. And so you don't want that.

[Adam Pally]

I am putting off my dent. I keep pushing. This is like, I don't want to go to the dentist until I've got like a two week run of flossing

[Ego Wodom]

in my shame too. They'll hurt you. And then the shame. But I hadn't gone to the dentist since I as I put it before the solar eclipse. And I went last year for the first time, I'm not because every time I'd go, they go, your teeth are so clean, you take such good care. And I go, this is a, this is like a scam.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And so, but are you a doctor person? Are you like, are you easily like,

[Ego Wodom]

I don't like going to the doctor, I'm not interested. Well then namely because I'm not interested in going to the doctor either. Because I feel like when I go and I describe, like, say something is wrong and I'm describing the symptoms like they're always like, we don't know what it is.

[Adam Pally]

And it's crazy how frequently my Doctor's like that. Just like, shit that happens. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, what?

[Ego Wodom]

It's going great.

[Adam Pally]

Just want to say hard out at 11:50.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, we got you.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah, thank you.

[John Gabris]

I got that clock. I'm on it. Thank you.

[Adam Pally]

We'll have you out at 10:50.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah. Honestly, if I could get out of

[Adam Pally]

here at 9:56, we'll do a 40 minute intro and outro you. Don't think we can't?

[Ego Wodom]

I actually think you have to be very good at that.

[Adam Pally]

I'm pretty sure him and I can talk for 40 minutes if we had to.

[John Gabris]

I don't want to be here as much as you are.

[Ego Wodom]

No, that is not what I'm saying.

[John Gabris]

I'm not going to breakfast with you.

[Adam Pally]

I'm making you eat breakfast.

[Ego Wodom]

Oh, man.

[Ryan Reynolds (Mint Mobile Ad)]

Hell,

[Adam Pally]

not breakfast, but meal with me, not you.

[Ego Wodom]

Breakfast.

[Adam Pally]

Having to look at me with bacon and eggs in my beer.

[Ego Wodom]

I'm in fucking hell.

[Adam Pally]

I'm in hell.

[Ego Wodom]

Not a breakfast.

[Adam Pally]

That's our date. Are you having fun?

[Ego Wodom]

I'm in hell. I wish. I wish a man on a date. And I don't want to go down a deep dive about my dating. I just have to say that.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, we got the email from your publicist. Yeah, we asked her about.

[John Gabris]

We heard what happened.

[Ego Wodom]

I'm traumatized. No.

[Adam Pally]

So Jason Momoa also wouldn't say anything. Oh, my gosh.

[Ego Wodom]

J, honestly, the man's supposed to set me up. He's due for a text from me.

[John Gabris]

Well, in order for him to set you up, he'd have to stop unboxing hatchets.

[Ego Wodom]

I'll let him know. I'll let him know. That's your feedback. So I'll reach out to him. But I wish men would say, are you having a good time? And obviously you guys are both. You both look stuck and scared. Cause I've said I don't wanna go down a deep dive. So there's a. I see it in your eyes. You're like, I don't wanna ask you a question. But I wish they would ask because I think many of them would find out.

[Adam Pally]

No, you should go on a date with a Jewish guy I go out of and he's like, are you okay? Or you.

[John Gabris]

How often do I ask if you're okay?

[Adam Pally]

Are you mad at me?

[Announcer]

Text you?

[John Gabris]

Are you mad at me?

[Ego Wodom]

Are you mad? I just want to make sure you're

[John Gabris]

not upset with me. I'm literally at taking stock of how you're doing all the time.

[Ego Wodom]

I need to go on a date

[John Gabris]

with the Jewish Guy, you really, really do. There's so few of us, though, that are like, okay, everybody. I feel maybe. But like, especially lately, like, I feel Jewish guys. It's like, we're not in a good place.

[Adam Pally]

20 something. 20 something years of friendship. Every once in a while, he'll say something to me and I'll be like, yeah, fine, whatever. And then I'll see him sit for like a minute and he's like, it, Are you mad at me? And I was like, sorry, my reaction was like, that strong. But I could just tell that here

[John Gabris]

I'm working on that. Actually, that is one of the things I'm working on because it is. It is signs of like a narcissistic. It. It is a narcissistic part of me.

[Adam Pally]

Like, am I having this much of an effect on you?

[John Gabris]

Yeah, because it's like. And even like, like, it. It is a shameful part of my existence. But like, even, like, if I'll text you, like, hey, have, like, are you, like, are you mad? Or whatever. It's. It's.

[Adam Pally]

Close. Your toilet. Are you mad? Many times I'll use my trailer toilet from here on.

[John Gabris]

Echo at work, oftentimes she is mad at me and it is my fault.

[Ego Wodom]

Yes, yes.

[Adam Pally]

It's separate than when you're actually mad at me, which is frequently.

[John Gabris]

No, but like, you know, like, I think it is working on it with my therapist. Like, it is a narcissist, an inverse narcissism. Because you're like. The fact that I would think that everything is about. Is about me or. Or my behavior or my, like, even my, like, mood would alter the way someone else's dead.

[Ego Wodom]

It's.

[John Gabris]

It's wildly.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I didn't think about it like that, but I see what you're saying.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, it is. And like, I'm working a lot. I'm trying really hard to, like, notice when I'm. When I'm doing that and like, what else is going on? Like, is it maybe just, like, I'm maybe feeling like I'm missing that person? Yeah, maybe that person. Maybe what I'm trying to say is like, hey, how you doing?

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

It's like. And instead I've. I've created this thing in my head where they're mad at me.

[Adam Pally]

Well, that's how I know I'm not doing great emotionally is when I'm like, get a text back from a lifelong friend, like Rogers or something, or you. And I'm like, oh, man, I pissed him off. And on my end of text is like, No, I can't make the movies that night or something. I'm like, I must have done something.

[Ego Wodom]

They don't wanna come to the movies.

[John Gabris]

That is something I do all the time too. I will internalize. Like, hey, you wanna get a drink? I can't, it's me.

[Adam Pally]

And then I'm like, what did I do last night?

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah, well, you know, nothing anybody does is about you and everything everyone does is about them. And that is one of the four agreements, which is one of my favorite books. Oh, hell y very self helpy. But when I real like I read that like five years ago and I was like, oh my gosh, you're. Whoa, nothing. Everything everyone does is about you, about them. And that's even paying you a compliment is about that. Like, it's. They're in a place where they feel like they can be so generous as to say a thing, but if they're having a bad day, that same person will be like, you're a piece of shit.

[John Gabris]

Right?

[Adam Pally]

And so you're like, guys need to ask girls how they're doing on dates. How you doing? You're a piece of shit. Hey, I know.

[Announcer]

That's all you.

[Adam Pally]

Don't worry about it.

[Ego Wodom]

It's all you.

[John Gabris]

Right back at you. You want to get dinner?

[Ego Wodom]

This is a you thing.

[John Gabris]

You know what I mean?

[Ego Wodom]

We're all a little narcissistic though too, by the way.

[Adam Pally]

A little. Thank you. That's a shame.

[John Gabris]

I mean, for us, I'm actually the

[Adam Pally]

best at being narcissistic.

[Ego Wodom]

You're so good at it. I can confirm.

[John Gabris]

I think I'm pretty good at it.

[Ego Wodom]

I'd say Pally's up there as well.

[John Gabris]

But I feel like we're all, especially in this industry. It's hard not to. Especially at this stage of the industry where like your livelihood is you.

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[John Gabris]

You know, Eggo is a business. This brand. It's like Adam is.

[Adam Pally]

And I'm invested huge

[John Gabris]

and I'm selling it all dividends and I'm shorting the market.

[Adam Pally]

I'm doing a crypto rug pull with my ego.

[Ego Wodom]

You might want to pull the funds. You might want to pull the funds soon because anything could happen over here. You might want to pull a Martha Stewart,

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[Ego Wodom]

but also my friend Patrick once said that like, la is the. Is like the Olympics of personality disorders.

[Adam Pally]

Truly. Yeah. You'll see some shit that you don't get anywhere else.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

You're like, what, wait, what's the hammer throw in the Olympics? That's like, wait, what's this guy's deal? He's like, he thinks he's a shaman. And you're like, oh yeah, that's.

[John Gabris]

I do think. I do think there is a spec. Like a certain thing that, that we have, the three of us have, that's probably psychopathic in some way.

[Ego Wodom]

Oh, no, no.

[John Gabris]

Truthfully, like the need. The need to. The need to perform. The need to like, be on mic in front of camera. The need to like be funny, even. Even funny, like. Like knowing you're one of the funniest bitters.

[Adam Pally]

Thank you.

[John Gabris]

Like, being on set with you is a blast. Which is not for. For a lot of people is not true. Like, you know, even doing those bits to keep it light. Here's me joking, you know, like, I

[Adam Pally]

mean, this is how, this is how I feel when I go like to buy a shirt in a store.

[John Gabris]

Totally.

[Adam Pally]

Like, I hope that guy thought I was funny.

[John Gabris]

Right?

[Adam Pally]

It's like the guy you just gave $80. I'm like, do you think I was funny?

[Ego Wodom]

Exactly.

[John Gabris]

So like, I think there is, on the scale of that is like kind of psychopathic. So when you get to la.

[Ego Wodom]

Oh yeah.

[John Gabris]

And everybody want. Has that thing that's clicked off where they're like, I deserve attention.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

I don't know if cars are not like running into each other.

[Adam Pally]

The day I moved to Los Angeles, me and Tiff went to Target and dropped like $600 on like all the shit. Like, oh, we need plungers, this, that, like pans. We just did everything that we needed for our new apartment. And the guy at the counter, so. So we're with him for like 25 minutes as he's checking out like two carts worth of stuff. The guy is so talking about himself. Where are you guys living? Over on by Melrose. You gotta try this on and on. He's like, I moved here and there. And then as we were driving home, I was like, that guy was really nice. And Tiffany' Like, I think we encountered, like, this is what LA people are like. And it turns out it's like that guy was probably came here to be a actor.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Now he works at Target.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

So he's got the same personality disorders as me, but happens to be working at Target. So now I'm in like a 40 minute, like exhausting conversation with someone and

[Ego Wodom]

I'm like, you're like, you can't bring this up fast enough.

[Adam Pally]

I know. I'm like bagging. I'm like, let me run this bag for the car. Tiff, you hang back.

[John Gabris]

Meanwhile, the same. Anytime you've been to a general meeting and it's gone kind of well and you're like psyched to work with them, and then you linger a little too long.

[Announcer]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And you're like, so what are we doing next? And that is what that guy feels. That guy's like, this guy got. I gotta bag up the groceries out of his Target, you know?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. In the general meeting, the guy's like, so Tina will validate your partner? Once you're like, looking. Oh, cool. Wait, is this, this movie poster school? It's like, Tina will validate your partner.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah. Please go see Tina.

[John Gabris]

That feeling I used to have. So you ego, you came up at UCB in la.

[Ego Wodom]

Yes.

[John Gabris]

Did, did you? Because we came up at UCB in New York, but I had that feeling coming up at ucb. That exact feeling. You're talking about where I would like linger too long around, you know what I mean?

[Adam Pally]

Where like as Cat was getting ready. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

I'd come off like my student show and ASCAT was getting ready and you'd see like, you know, Tina Fey talking to Stephen Colbert in the corner and you just kind of like, like linger over, like, these are my friends to be like, I guess I'm part of it.

[Adam Pally]

I'm in this.

[Ego Wodom]

I hope someone gets a picture of this. And it's like I was here with these.

[John Gabris]

Truly. Truly. That. That was like the, the like, was. Was LA like that or is it different because.

[Adam Pally]

It's. Because it's already Hollywood.

[Ego Wodom]

It's already Hollywood. I think LA was a little different. And I also, I. When I came up at ucb, I, like didn't know what UCB was and I took a class begrudgingly. Like, honestly, I didn't know. And I had, I had made friends then once to ucb. They're still my friends who were like, when I knew, because I read this book that when I got to la, the first thing I was gonna do is get an apartment and then, like, get a. Get in a class at ucb. So I didn't know. And we were already in Hollywood. I don't. I. I'm also not, like, I'm not like, the most thirsty. Not at all. No.

[Adam Pally]

Agreed.

[John Gabris]

One of the least thirsty with my

[Ego Wodom]

five beverages, but one of the least

[John Gabris]

literally thirsty performers I've ever gotten.

[Adam Pally]

I'm not slang thirsty. I'm legit thirsty.

[Ego Wodom]

I have. But being thirsty.

[Adam Pally]

We'll get to them.

[Ego Wodom]

But being thirsty I don't think is at the top of my list, per se. And so there are performers I remember admiring. I think watching Mary Holland on stage, I was like, legend. Who is she? How is she so good Getting to watch Drew Tarver and Lauren Lapkis. Like, I was so enthralled by them, but I also was. I also didn't really know. I didn't know what was going on, if I'm being totally honest. Like, I took an improv class begrudgingly, and I was like, fine, I'll take this class. Yeah, exactly. I was mad about it.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. And you get there and you're like, woo. Woo. Like, I'm literally satisfied.

[Ego Wodom]

Passing, like. And so I did it. And then I did fall in love with it and I really loved it, but I didn't know. Even the Amy Poehler of it, like, came to me later in time where I was like, oh, that's who.

[John Gabris]

She's here.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah. Who I think is so cool, by the way. The way, like, she seems, like, incredible.

[Adam Pally]

Like one of those. Surprisingly cool for the level she's at, where you're like. Which is like, says more about the industry than about Amy. Where it's like she looked me in the eye and said hello, and it's like, she's a. She's really.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Remember, she's down to earth. It's like, yeah, the bar.

[John Gabris]

So literally solo. You're like.

[Adam Pally]

They didn't treat me like that's celebrity.

[John Gabris]

Amy remembers my wife's name.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

She's an amazing person.

[Adam Pally]

I can't even keep track.

[Ego Wodom]

You don't know his wife's name.

[Adam Pally]

It's something with a D. It's all right.

[John Gabris]

She loves you. She loves you.

[Adam Pally]

She loves you.

[John Gabris]

Gabo. No.

[Adam Pally]

Because Adam and I have been with the same partners for so long. I met Daniela when I met Adam, which was also 20 something years similar.

[John Gabris]

I met Tiffany. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Tiffany and Danielle hit it off in 2004.

[Ego Wodom]

That's crazy.

[John Gabris]

We got put on the same Herald team. I had just Danielle and I had, like, just Started dating again when we moved back to New York.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And we got. And I got put on a herald team at that. At that like exact time.

[Ego Wodom]

Okay.

[Adam Pally]

It would be like I think it was 05. That's literally 20 years ago.

[John Gabris]

And, and the, the funniest dude on the team was Gabers.

[Ego Wodom]

Oh wow.

[Adam Pally]

Okay. I mean that's funnier.

[John Gabris]

Debatable.

[Adam Pally]

He's caught up in passing.

[Ego Wodom]

Would you rather be the most handsome man in the room or the funniest man in the room?

[John Gabris]

No question.

[Ego Wodom]

You hand.

[Adam Pally]

Is it, is it improv room? Cuz that's like a world's tallest improv room.

[John Gabris]

I'm already am.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I'm £110 and I'm in one of the better shape in production. My doctor. My doctor. When I said my asked my cardiologist what I should do for health, he put a gun with one bullet on the table and I'm still In the top 10 percentile of health that used to be.

[John Gabris]

Well, good thing. You're like, oh, you hate medicine.

[Adam Pally]

I know. He's like, yeah, I got one pill.

[Ego Wodom]

You should one pill.

[Adam Pally]

Take two of these in the morning. Right in the back of the head.

[John Gabris]

I mean you. Did you ever deal? Speaking of like improv hotel, you are,

[Adam Pally]

you are Hollywood attractive.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. I'm trying to be like co worker. Don't shame me. No, I'm kidding.

[Ego Wodom]

But you can pay guys. I also. Public service announcement. You're allowed to pay compliments if you're not being weird about it. But I guess some guys don't know what being weird is and that's where the problem is. But I think they know. I think men know.

[Adam Pally]

You have gorgeous feet.

[Ego Wodom]

Thank you so much.

[Adam Pally]

According to Wikipedia. Is that a weird one?

[Ego Wodom]

Your gorgeous feet. Can I touch them?

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

No, I don't throw in those sandals.

[Ego Wodom]

He doesn't think my feet are gorgeous.

[John Gabris]

I don't think I'm shocked that the feet the feature.

[Adam Pally]

I've never seen them. I've only drawn them.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah. Wiki feet thinks I have good feet.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. I just.

[Adam Pally]

My guess would be I'm not even a foot guy. My guess would be, you know, like.

[Ego Wodom]

Okay.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodom]

Well, it's because I feel like if you're. If you any. No, I can't say that.

[Adam Pally]

No.

[John Gabris]

What I was going to say.

[Adam Pally]

Leave that in.

[John Gabris]

What I was going to say was there is this term like comedy hot. Yeah. Which I have. Which I've heard quite a bit. You, you, you transcend that.

[Ego Wodom]

Thank you.

[John Gabris]

Did you ever does that ever. Does that. Was that ever a thing?

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[John Gabris]

Because, like, I don't know what it's like, Like, I. I don't know what it's like to be, like, normal, hot, where you're also in comedy and then you're like, making people laugh. Like, are ever people ever like that?

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah. No. Well, you know what? I. Thank you, first of all. Thank you. But what I'll say is I did not grow up with, like, my attract. I wasn't like a. I did ballet for 10 years, but I wasn't like my mom's pretty little girl. And so I was like, kind of a tomboy. And I think I still have some of that in me, but I. My level of attractiveness, like, just never occurred to me whatsoever. Like, whatsoever.

[Adam Pally]

That's part of the allure, too.

[Ego Wodom]

She doesn't even. Yeah, I think it truly, like, dudes

[John Gabris]

are probably like, she doesn't even know.

[Adam Pally]

And then it's like one who's going to tell, not ask her what she's done.

[John Gabris]

And then it's like some dude. Some dude, like, you know, I go, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And it's just. I see you differently.

[Ego Wodom]

I'm not the shrug. Okay, well, here's what I'll say. When I was like, 14, on a bus, we, like, went to Hershey park for a field trip or something. I remember. I don't know. Will I get sued if I say someone's first and last name that I happen to remember from middle school?

[John Gabris]

We could bleep it out if you

[Ego Wodom]

want, but I don't even. It's this kid named Curtain. And if he ever listens to Curtains for Curtains. Curtains for Curtain. Curtains for. Maybe that's a sketch. Okay.

[John Gabris]

Oh, God. You've been working there too long.

[Adam Pally]

Finally I've got something

[John Gabris]

off week. I gotta write that down.

[Ego Wodom]

I gotta write a sketch. I gotta see if he'll write a Curtains for Curtains sketch. He won't. Spoiler.

[Adam Pally]

This is perfect for Benson Boone,

[Ego Wodom]

head

[John Gabris]

drama pitching Benson Boone sketches.

[Ego Wodom]

That's legitimately what it's like in the hospital. I have pitch today. I dislocated my shoulder at the subway station going to work, and I was like, I need to go to my fitting for my pre taped sketches with

[John Gabris]

my shoulder out of sight in whiplash at the end.

[Ego Wodom]

Yes, exactly. I love that. I don't. I don't know a lot of movies. That's a fun fact about me, but I know, I know. Very fun fact. The best movie I'VE ever seen. I've said it a million times. The Town.

[John Gabris]

Oh, shit.

[Adam Pally]

Okay.

[Ego Wodom]

Don't get me started.

[Adam Pally]

I talk about how hot Ben Affleck is for like five.

[John Gabris]

I heard Echo say that so many times. And I now have that feeling. You know, like when you're with a friend or like your partner for a long time and they like going to tell a story that you've heard a bunch and you're like, I'm not going to look good.

[Adam Pally]

I'm not going to get into the town. Hey, babe, you're the bad guy.

[John Gabris]

Favorite movie is the Town.

[Adam Pally]

I mean, I, I love it for a long time.

[John Gabris]

I love that movie too.

[Adam Pally]

It is good.

[John Gabris]

But it's like so legitimately like it's Boston bromance. It's like, it literally is like Boston written like, the lines are literally like, I can't even.

[Adam Pally]

We're gonna need to hurt some people. Yeah. Who's driving?

[John Gabris]

Exactly.

[Ego Wodom]

Friendship.

[Adam Pally]

The themes of friendships, that's non toxic male friendship.

[Ego Wodom]

Non toxic male friendship, pride or die.

[John Gabris]

They'll go hurt someone for each other.

[Ego Wodom]

Yes, it's beautiful. But Whiplash, I constantly am saying to people, not quite my tempo. Not quite my tempo. Not my tempo, not my tempo. No, no, not a problem.

[John Gabris]

It's okay. Colt, my son is like obsessed with that movie. He just loves it. And we went to. It was re. Released. Released on IMAX. Yeah, like recently. So like 9 in the morning a couple weeks ago, I was at Lincoln center, like watching, watching Whiplash and on this giant imac and the music is amazing. Also, our boy Nate Lang is drum shout out to Nate Lang.

[Ego Wodom]

I know Nate Lang.

[Adam Pally]

He was on team of mine called the Law Firm for a while.

[John Gabris]

You were on. I was on that team, yeah. He was one of the funniest people ever. He. He tested for SNL a couple times. Yeah, he, he, he has this like really straight man vibe.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And he was the other drummer that took over. You know, when there's an actual studio. Studio drummer.

[Ego Wodom]

Okay.

[John Gabris]

He's in it. Great movie. But when you, when you rewatch it, it is so intense. It's like.

[Adam Pally]

It's an anxiety.

[Ego Wodom]

Yes, it's an anxiety movie. And 9am is crazy. Another cuckoo banana. Did you have breakfast that day?

[John Gabris]

Yeah, I had a bagel. I snuck a bagel.

[Ego Wodom]

I'm disgusting.

[John Gabris]

I snuck a bagel into the theater. Everyone around it was making that sound block spread. It was making that sound. I felt like an. Or an airplane.

[Ego Wodom]

Like, like trying to do it slowly. And you're like, just, just make the noise.

[John Gabris]

My son was so mad at me. And I, when I stopped, he's like, don't bring a bagel in. And I was like, no one's gonna be in here. It's not in the morning.

[Adam Pally]

I'm hungry.

[John Gabris]

He's like, dad, don't. And I was like, shut up. I'm doing it. And then I got in there. It's packed with like, film nerds.

[Ego Wodom]

Oh, yeah.

[John Gabris]

It's like totally packed.

[Adam Pally]

All drummers,

[John Gabris]

John, Bob, Lars, it's all the best drummers. And I, I'm like, he's eating. Everyone's normal. And I just pull the bagel out of my pocket. It makes like a little crinkle. And then I'm like, and.

[Ego Wodom]

And you get the looks. And you get the looks. You get the looks.

[John Gabris]

Everyone starts looking.

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[Ego Wodom]

did you ever think you'd be an embarrassing dad?

[John Gabris]

No. I always thought I was like, I still. It's still shocking because I still think that I'm the coolest dad.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And it's. It's so. They. They don't think that at all. They don't think that at all.

[Adam Pally]

You might be. You Might actually be the coolest dad. But, yeah, they don't know they're your dad. So you're already in a category.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah, they.

[John Gabris]

So, like, we had. They're having their bar mitzvah this week.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And they're being. We. We were meeting with, like, the dj, and he's trying to get a vibe for them, you know, and he's like, so, you know, what are your favorite musicians? What are your favorite.

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[John Gabris]

What are your favorite actors? They gave a list of actors. 10 people long. 10 people long. And I was sitting there, like, literally, Gigi's like, Adam Sandler, Jack Black, Amy Schumer, just.

[Adam Pally]

And.

[John Gabris]

And then Cole's like, oh, Jake Gyllenhaal. Like, they're just like. They're just, like, running down this list. And I'm sitting there, Ben Schwartz, Gil

[Adam Pally]

Oz,

[Ego Wodom]

Roger,

[John Gabris]

Like, literally going. And the whole.

[Ego Wodom]

And.

[John Gabris]

And then finally after the. The DJs like, cool, cool. I felt. I was like, you know, I am

[Ego Wodom]

an actor to them.

[John Gabris]

And. And they're like, yeah, but you're not my favorite. And it was so. It's like, fuck you, man. Like, I am a lot of kids favorites. Like, there are a lot of kids out there by. When I was like, who wants me

[Adam Pally]

to be their dad?

[John Gabris]

Like, your friends.

[Adam Pally]

Everyone at the DJ play is, like, looking around. Another one.

[John Gabris]

I was so shook. I was so upset. Like, really, like, hit me hard. But it. I guess it's, like, par for the course, but it sucks to be, like, not cool in your own house.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And to think you're cool outside of it is a horrible. Were your parents, like. I mean.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah, well, my mom was. I mean, I never thought of my mom as cool, but I don't think. I don't think she thought of herself as cool either.

[Adam Pally]

It didn't matter.

[Ego Wodom]

No, I don't think it mattered. Like, yeah, that's. I don't. I don't think anything mattered besides, like, just making sure you set yourself up for success.

[John Gabris]

We were just talking about that before you came. Like, there are certain cultures.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

That are, like, suck sex.

[Adam Pally]

Yes.

[John Gabris]

Driven.

[Ego Wodom]

Yes.

[John Gabris]

Like, very much so. I feel you come from one of those households.

[Ego Wodom]

Yes. Nigerian households are very. That. Yes.

[Adam Pally]

The way I profile or stereotype is the ethnicity of the doctors in my hospital. So frequently Nigerian, South Asian and Asian and Jewish. I'm like, clearly, you guys had to hustle. That's like 10 years of school and you got to do good the whole time.

[Ego Wodom]

Yes. You gotta do good.

[John Gabris]

Similarly, I feel like there was a pressure. I Mean, I failed that pressure right away. When is like. But, you know, you. You have to do good in school. Like, it is intense in your house if you're not.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah. And, you know, my mom, it's interesting. She. It's. She's just. Because I was raised just by my mom, I didn't feel, like, crazy pressure. It's almost like this expectation just ingrained in you. Right. So, like, if the pressure was maybe there, but I didn't feel it in that way where it's like, someone's over your head. And, like, my mom used to have an issue with, like, why do you guys have to go to school all day? And then they, like, you're in school for eight hours, and then they give you homework. She'd be like, that's very messed up. She's. I think that's messed up. She's like, yeah.

[John Gabris]

She's like, your mom's awesome.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah, she's actually really cool. But she is cool. But I didn't think of her as cool. Like, no one does. No, she's just. She's mom. And now, like, my friend last night, we were at dinner, and he's like, this is so crazy. I remember my dad's 40th birthday, and I remember thinking, like, vividly, like, dad's old, and Now I'm approaching 40, and it's like, that's a mind fuck. Cause also no kids. And his dad had two kids by the time he was. Yeah, different world. Completely different world.

[Adam Pally]

Mom's 30th birthday, and I'm 43. Three. I was, like, eight or nine when my mom turned. Damn. And now I'm 43.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Italian American households are a little different. They want you to either have a really good scam or own a deli.

[Announcer]

Right.

[Adam Pally]

They don't care about college. They're like, wait, you're saying. You're saying you could overcharge your boss for your mileage or whatever? Like, that's the shit that my Italian family loves because.

[John Gabris]

Or they're, like, psyched if, like, if you have a good relationship with your uncle who works construction.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, yeah. Or if, like I was telling you earlier, like, the Hell's Kitchen, like, stagehands.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

They're, like, 75 Italian.

[Ego Wodom]

Really?

[Adam Pally]

My grandpa and dad, they called it relations. And it's like, we know him, and it's like, how do you know him? It's like, relations, which just meant, like, their family somehow.

[John Gabris]

That is so cool. The crudest shit. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodom]

Well, yeah. Yeah, is what it is. It is what it is.

[Adam Pally]

Where do you think the term white trash comes from? From my fucking 23. Andme came back 75% white trash. I didn't even know that

[Ego Wodom]

white trash is white trash. Offensive. Because sometimes I'll say it and then I feel a semblance of guilt. And then somebody was like. But then I'll hear, yeah, what do you think?

[Adam Pally]

I don't think so, but I've, like, owned it in a way, because I feel like white trash is something that some people are like, yeah, we're a trash family or whatever. But I also think, like, when people use it to mean, like, poor white people, it's like, that's probably one. And it's mean. But if you're like, my family's middle class, but we trash.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John Gabris]

Exactly. Yeah, yeah. I think, I think it's personality more than, like, socioeconomics.

[Adam Pally]

It's like, oh, do you have 75 white claws empty in a plastic bag next to you at the beach? You might be a little white.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, there's white trash there. Wait.

[Adam Pally]

Ego. We always ask all our guests this question, so maybe you can help us answer it. What are you doing to stay alive?

[John Gabris]

Currently.

[Adam Pally]

Ooh.

[Ego Wodom]

Okay. Right now.

[Adam Pally]

Okay.

[Ego Wodom]

Because I dislocated my shoulder and I can't work out. If you had asked me. I slipped in the subway station at 30 Rock. I slipped. It was like Final Destination style. Because I slipped on a Thursday. On Tuesday, also at Broadway Lafayette, carrying a matcha. Like, almost fell backwards, like, on the flat platform. Have no idea. It's too oily in there. In the winter, the salt melts and then it's not water, it's oil.

[Adam Pally]

It's great. You can, like, do this. You can do, like.

[John Gabris]

And the tile, the. What they put on all the subways is like this bathroom tile.

[Ego Wodom]

Yes.

[John Gabris]

I do not know why. It can't be stone.

[Ego Wodom]

Yes, it should be stone.

[John Gabris]

Why is it not stone that does not get wet?

[Ego Wodom]

I. I agree. Because I'm brick. I've. I've hurt myself. And so I, I fell. Almost fell on Tuesday, but didn't somehow. And then on Thursday, did fully fall, different subway stop, fell, shoulder dislocated, popped out of its socket.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, you got, you got Sue Su

[Ego Wodom]

saying sue the city. But here's the thing. I got in a car accident in, like 2017. I was rear ended on Fountain Avenue in Los Angeles on a Sunday morning. And this man was like, I'm sorry. I'm. I'm. I gotta hurry up and get out of here. Here's my Information. It's my wedding day. I gotta go. And I'm like, okay, like, stunned. And that process took like five years to get $2,000.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodom]

I'm like, it's not. It was.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, like 600 emails. Photocopy and scanning.

[John Gabris]

Also, you don't want to be on page six. It's like ego wodom of sns Mayor ad. It's like, you and.

[Ego Wodom]

Or do I. In my sling. They were like, wear this for a week. I'm still supposed to be wearing it right now, but I'm like, it's. No, I'm not about to be doing the fits. Come on.

[John Gabris]

So good. Those loafers are amazing.

[Ego Wodom]

Thank you so much.

[Adam Pally]

So you can't go to the gym, which I guess is a regular part of your fitness.

[Ego Wodom]

I was obsessed with this workout called Solid Core, which is like Pilates inspired, intense. So abusive.

[John Gabris]

Do they have one of those in Beverly Hills by the Rite Aid? But you got to take an elevator. It's like a glass thing. We got to take an elevator.

[Ego Wodom]

They might. I've only been in la. I've been to the West Hollywood location in the Hollywood and Pasadena. But it's an intense. It's so intense. It's not for the faint of heart.

[John Gabris]

Are you gentle?

[Adam Pally]

Are you seeking that out? Do you like, not a very intense workout or.

[Ego Wodom]

Okay, so this is a whole conversation I had at dinner last night with someone, my friend who runs like a Pilates inspired company of her own that's far more gentle. And there's all sorts of. I don't know how boring we want to get here. But she was like, oh, but she was like, you don't need to be doing that intensive a workout. And when I met her, like a couple years ago, she told me that. And then I was like, oh, this injury is crazy because I actually can't do the workout now. I mean, I'm tempted. I'm so addicted to the workout that with my injury, knowing I just had to get an mri, like, they think I tore something, like my labor.

[John Gabris]

It's like, yeah,

[Ego Wodom]

I'm so crazy and I'm so addicted to it that I was like, but maybe I can still, like, pull it off. Even though the whole workout is on your shoulders and it's planking. It's like planking. You're in high planks, low planks the whole time. And the doctor was like, do not do that. And yesterday I woke up, I was like, I, like, feel still kind of okay. I wonder if I could just go. I didn't do it. But like, full addict. But anyway, my friend was like, do not. You shouldn't be doing intense workouts like that because you already work a stressful job and a high intensity job, and then your workout, being high intensity is making your cortisol spike. And that will make you bloated. It will make you retain that stress hormone reaction. Like, yeah, inflammation will be a problem for you. And like, anyway, it's crazy. I. Now I have to figure out a different workout because I'm like, it is too intense. But that was my thing. I was like, addicted to solid.

[Adam Pally]

What. What did you like about it? The intensity or did you.

[John Gabris]

And what's the class like? Are you like, is it like jumping on a trampoline?

[Ego Wodom]

No, there's like a reformer, but it's like an intense reformer. It's very heavy and lights are down. It's blue music. Depending on the teacher. Depends on the teacher. I have a couple class.

[John Gabris]

I. I'm a class guy.

[Ego Wodom]

I'm a class. I'm a class. I was. I was not a fitness person at all. But then I decided it matters, like, in the last days, few, few years. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Ego. You're touching on something that we're pretty much like, unpacking on this podcast over the course of the season is like, you eventually get to an age where you're like, I kind of have to just really think about health and fitness.

[Ego Wodom]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

Like, and it's not. I don't feel old and decrepit, but I'm starting to see, like, I can maybe fix some things or head some things off at the past.

[John Gabris]

Isn't it weird when you meet someone who doesn't now? Like, I. I am always taken aback when, like, you know, you're on a new. A new project or something and you start meeting the cast and everybody and there's someone there because there always is where you're, like, talking about what you're doing. What are you gonna do tomorrow? Oh, I'm gonna get this. And so someone's like, oh, yeah, I don't work out.

[Ego Wodom]

You know what's. Okay? Yeah, okay.

[John Gabris]

And you're like, what?

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Like, how. How do you do that?

[Adam Pally]

They're always a skinny motherfucker.

[John Gabris]

They're always skinny and look good.

[Ego Wodom]

I. I think I was that. But now I. What happened for me is that. And I'm stunned because I have a few friends back in LA who are also like, I don't work out at the gym. No. No way. And that was me. And now I see them on Instagram and I'm like, oh, yeah, you're, you're into it now. But what happened for me is that my, my mom was a single mom, worked so much, so, so much. Now has this back injury from a car accident and like, didn't rehab it, which was upsetting to me. Like, she knows better. She's a doctor. Why wouldn't you rehab your back injury? And then the only way I could not be upset with her and be like, what the fuck? And just be mad was like having a moment of compassion where I'm like, I guess if I just hustled the way she did, did for 60 plus years and only worked, worked, worked, worked. Like, went to med school with four kids. She is a grinder. I'm like, I guess by the time I get to the age of 60, I would be burnt out. And the notion of introducing fitness to my life at 60, probably not. I'm 30 at the time I'm having this. I'm 32 at the time I'm having this thought. And I was like, I don't want to work out now. And I'm agile and young and vibrant and I'm not burnt out. And I was like, if I was 60 and I did all that she's done.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I'd be like, trusted over. Let's let it ride. What do we got? How many years exactly?

[Ego Wodom]

I'm like, am I gonna, what, I'm gonna start working out now? And so I started working out because of this sounds. This is not funny. But I'm like, oh. I'm like, I started working out. Cause I'm like, I. I want to have grace and compassion for her and not be upset. And so if I can do it differently than she did. And yeah, I don't want it to be hard to introduce fitness into my life when I'm 60 and I wanna make it a part of my life now. And so my whole goal a few years ago was to change my relationship with. With fitness. And so I did. But then it's become this weird addiction. So weird.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, a lot of, A lot of times that happens though, because there is a dopamine that. That's really sweet. Like, like anything like that makes you feel good. And you may not like it, but it makes you feel good.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

So your body's like, we should do that again.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

You know, and then you get really.

[Adam Pally]

It's like being 12 and homesick and jerking off while the price is right is on. You're like, well, I think we get a few more of these in before that mom gets home from work.

[Ego Wodom]

Is that what you were up to? K Bris?

[Adam Pally]

That's what I was doing. Unfortunately. The one I was like I'm gonna stay home sick from school and CR times in junior high.

[John Gabris]

He still can't hear that theme song. It's pap. It's the run to the. I mean I. I feel like I, I had it similarly in a similar way cuz my, my father went to med medical school with three children. Not a single parent. But my mother did not exercise ever.

[Ego Wodom]

She.

[John Gabris]

It was like not ever something she did. She was really unhealthy. Her father died at 44. She died at 53. 3. Like you know, just didn't move.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Any ever.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And my father was crazy. I mean he's yolked. He's like still. He's like a seven. He looks like. And I'm not talking like Alec Baldwin and it's complicated Jack. Like my dad is like jacked up. He's got the weird veins that old men have. You know, he's like old men peck. Like he's, he's in better shape than I am. And I as a kid, kid hated how much he exercised. Like I. It made me.

[Adam Pally]

It's a little embarrassing.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, it was embarrassing. I was like gh. Stupid.

[Ego Wodom]

Like, yeah, even me. Like when people say to me now, oh you're a fitness girl. I'm like chill.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, no, no, I like food. I eat.

[Ego Wodom]

I. I eat. But I get very like. Keenan was asking me what I do for fun. Cause I'm like, if you're going to invite me to the club, I got to mentally prepare. Give me two weeks notice so I can like really make it to the club with women. I'm like, I just need to like it's not even about how he clubs but it's more like me going to a club at this point.

[Adam Pally]

I need to like emotionally prepare for it.

[John Gabris]

I don't know how I would even make it through like once it hit 12.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Like, are we going to another club

[Adam Pally]

or can we get going to the diner now?

[John Gabris]

Yeah. Are we calling it? I saw a cheese Bradley Cooper selling cheese steaks.

[Ego Wodom]

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[Adam Pally]

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[Ego Wodom]

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[Ego Wodom]

Clorox toilet wand.

[John Gabris]

It's all in one.

[Ego Wodom]

Clorox toilet wand. It's all in one. Hey, what is all in one mean? The caddy, the wand, the preloaded pad. There's a cleaner in there inside the pad. So Clorox Toilet Wand is all I need to clean a toilet. You don't need a bottle of solution. Use as directed. So staying alive. American cheese. When I found out about eight years ago that it wasn't real, it was maybe eight or nine years ago, life changing. I had to stop fucking with it. I'm googling. I'm like, what is American? What is it? Can't find an answer. Maybe now the Internet has updated, But I kid you not, my Herald team, it was a whole thing with us where I was like, guys, American cheese isn't real. And I was like, someone Google it right now. Tell me what the ingredients are. We couldn't have. Everyone's like, what? Someone's like, yeah, what? Yeah. I was like, fine. So now I changed my whole in n out order. No cheese. I don't. Because it's American cheese.

[John Gabris]

There's things that you don't know what they are that are so ed and good. Like a Twinkie or I don't eat that.

[Ego Wodom]

So this I like.

[Adam Pally]

This is good. This is good. Knock that out. I mean, I can't because I'm a pig.

[John Gabris]

But, like, I can't remember last time I had a Twinkie.

[Adam Pally]

No, I. I'm good at avoiding, like, legit junk food. It's like savory bad stuff that I have a hard time avoiding.

[Ego Wodom]

I think you can. So here's my thing. I'm not even about eating healthy in terms of like, oh, I'm not going to have a cheesesteak, or I'm not going to have a Twinkie esque thing. I will have a Twinkie from, like, an. An artisan bakery, but I'm not going to have, like, a Twinkie out of the box from the grocery store. Like, I'm not going to do that.

[John Gabris]

Apartment 4F.

[Ego Wodom]

The apartment 4F, which is down the

[John Gabris]

street from me, they DM me.

[Ego Wodom]

They did.

[John Gabris]

And they were like, thank you so much for using our product in the show. If you ever want to come down, we'll give you a box. I was there within an hour, had a box.

[Ego Wodom]

Well, where's my free box? Because I'm in apartment 4F at least twice a week. And I'm. And I'm buying.

[John Gabris]

I bought a box probably. No, they didn't give me the box. I bought the box.

[Ego Wodom]

You had to buy the box.

[John Gabris]

But I got. Because I didn't have to wait online.

[Ego Wodom]

Okay, you didn't.

[John Gabris]

Which is like. Because the line.

[Ego Wodom]

Well, I'm Wait. I'm waiting online. I'm paying for all my.

[John Gabris]

I went right in, got the box, ate the box. One sitting, the whole box.

[Ego Wodom]

That's crazy.

[John Gabris]

Have you la parent 4F?

[Ego Wodom]

The croissant cereal?

[John Gabris]

Croissant cereal. That is like, think of like a cookie crisp, but like a croissant croissant. It's probably. I probably ate, like, 10,000 calories in one sitting. The box is $50.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah, it is. It is. It is. When I bought it and then I posted it on Instagram, I was a little like, does this so suck of me? Exactly. Like, does this absolutely suck of me that I bought a 50%.

[John Gabris]

Is that. It's a $50 box. But it is. It's one of those things where you're like, I can't do this again. I can't buy $50 breakfast cereal again. Yeah, but it is awesome.

[Ego Wodom]

Like, yeah, it's so good.

[Adam Pally]

You're. You're touching on something here. And then maybe this is the coastal elite in US or me, I should say. I won't speak for everyone, but there is something of, like, if I'm gonna eat something that is not considered healthy, I want. I'll upcharge for, like, the organic. This guy is making it the way he wants to do it. The health.

[Ego Wodom]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. I'm gonna drink a smoothie from heroin.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. I'm gonna have Korean short ribs and broccolini from heroin.

[John Gabris]

What's going on on weeks that you got that you're working with your workout and your food?

[Ego Wodom]

Okay, so are you.

[John Gabris]

Are you just, like, you work on

[Adam Pally]

a show that has famously a difficult schedule?

[Ego Wodom]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

How do you Handle that.

[Ego Wodom]

I. So this is where the. The herein lies issues. So, like, Mondays, we're kind. We're. I say we're off, but this is how sick this is. How much we work is that I tell people. I'm like, I'm off on Mondays. But I. We're not off on Mondays, actually.

[Adam Pally]

We just work a couple days.

[Ego Wodom]

Yes. It can be like, exactly. We work like an hour on Mondays. And I'm like, we're off, but I still have to go in. We meet the host. But I, on Mondays, will try to work out and take a class Tuesdays. I found that solidcore, and this was my conversation last night. I found this season formally, I was like, oh, doing a solid core on Tuesdays. Which is when the week ramps up and it starts to get highly emotional. And we're up all night writing on Tuesday. I go, I don't need someone yelling at me with loud music. And the blue lights and the movement of solidcore already is intense. It's like, very slow. And your working muscles you did not know you had, you could be the most. Like my former personal trainer, she was like, if I took that class, she's in great shape. She's like, it would be horrible for me because it's different muscles.

[John Gabris]

You're working shit that you've never.

[Adam Pally]

That's like, such a fun meme now. People love that shit. They're like, football player gets out of breath during Pilates. And it's like, it's so true. Like, you could be in great shape, but we're all built for different things. Like, a triathlete can't get on the bench and do as much as a power lifter. But if you make a power lifter on a 5K, it's gonna be.

[Ego Wodom]

It's gonna be surgeon. Exactly. And so, like, I. I realized I can't do that intense workout on Tuesday. But I. I was. And I do in terms of. And then as the week goes on, I like, try to sneak one in on a Thursday. Like, one time this season, I tried to run on a Saturday for like a mile before I went into work. I did it, but I'm like, it's not an enjoyable run because I also knew I had to go to work and I was, like, running a little behind. So it was like, nah, not fun. But eating. She's eating. Eating out every day. She's eating out every single day. I've said this a million times over. This is another one of the, like, spouse stories you've probably heard a bunch. Is that every time Mikey Day said to me, like, two years ago, he's like, every time I look over at your phone, which he shouldn't be doing, he's like, you're looking at menus, and it's real. I'm always planning what I'm gonna eat. If it's not.

[Adam Pally]

If it's not.

[John Gabris]

I think that's why we hit it off so well. Like, first day of throwback. I think we were both on menus.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah, I'm like, menus.

[Adam Pally]

I get that.

[Ego Wodom]

I am menu.

[Adam Pally]

I'm a fucking talk about. I've had to actually stop this behavior to learn to be more present and not talk about other food while I'm at a meal. Like, I've had to say, like, okay, we can talk about what tomorrow's dinner is after this meal. I don't even want to, like, because even when you're eating, you do that whole like. Like the version of. Did you see this movie?

[John Gabris]

Did you?

[Adam Pally]

Like, you're like, oh, this burger's great. Oh, have you had. Had Blue Ribbon Burger? It's like, no, not yet. And it's like, oh, have you had. Oh, dude, the burger? You know what burger I love The Au Chaval burger. And the. All a sudden, you're like. And it's like, you just finished your food, and you're like, you've only been

[Ego Wodom]

talking about other foods the whole time. I'm. It's insane, though, like, my obsession with good meals. And I feel like. I remember years ago, my friend Sydney, like, I was here for DCM Improv festival or whatever, and my friend Sydney, who's not in improv, we got up. She lived in the city, and I was like, you haven't had artichoke pizza. Now be like, be. Be kind to me. This is like seven years ago.

[Adam Pally]

This is the time.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I still don't hate a slice of artichoke. No.

[John Gabris]

You just have to know that if you're going to have one slice.

[Adam Pally]

Slices.

[John Gabris]

The creamy artichoke pizza, you got to

[Adam Pally]

be within 100 meters of a toilet.

[John Gabris]

That's it for the day and the night.

[Adam Pally]

And I sweat that oil out, like, after I have it. Like, I'm combing garlic out of my beard. I got a clove popping.

[Ego Wodom]

I. I said to her, I was. I took her to artichoke. She got it. She wasn't with it. She got two big slices. Like, one artichoke and one something else. And I remember her throwing it away and being like, there's just too. Life is too short to Eat bad food. And I was like, honestly, I'm not mad at your philosoph recipe.

[John Gabris]

No.

[Ego Wodom]

She was like, I don't like that you took me here.

[John Gabris]

I'm not gonna eat that.

[Ego Wodom]

I'm not gonna eat that. I took my thoughts.

[Adam Pally]

I need to learn that.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Because I get really mad at myself because I'm like, I overate last night. But I was at this delicious restaurant. So fine, live life.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And then I'll be like, I overate last night. And I hated all of it.

[Ego Wodom]

And that's. I'll catch my. Like, I'm doing a better job now of, like, catching myself and being like, you're not enjoying this? You don't like this thing you're eating right now? Like, if I really don't like it, no problem. But you. If. If it's mid. Like, it's. That's when I'm catching myself better. I'm like, going, when it's mid, I'm like, I'm not enjoying the. Stop.

[John Gabris]

Were you brought up with, like, clean, clean your plate policy?

[Ego Wodom]

Kind of like. No. Well, no.

[Adam Pally]

What does, like, a family of African descent say? Because the white families always say, hey, they're starving kids in Africa.

[Ego Wodom]

And my family be like, there are starving white children in Greenwich.

[Adam Pally]

Starving white Africa.

[Ego Wodom]

Starving white racist. They're starving white trash.

[John Gabris]

Kate Moss has not had a meal.

[Adam Pally]

Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels.

[Ego Wodom]

No, My mom. My mom was not big on wasting food at all. But I also, like, didn't have the same appetite I have now. Granted, it'd be things like making me eat breakfast, which is like, what a good mom should do with her kid. But the funny thing is, I'm older now, and, yeah, I still don't fuck with breakfast. I didn't like it when I was 7, and it'd be like, yeah, and I still don't like it. And so I knew. And there's also, like, certain foods that my family would feed me that I'm like, I don't like this. And now in my adult, I still don't like it.

[Adam Pally]

So, quick, breakfast question. Do you not like breakfast foods? Like, if you were to have a. If you were to meet up with someone for brunch at, like, 1 or 12:30, would you eat eggs and shit like that? Or the breakfast, like, genre doesn't appeal to you?

[Ego Wodom]

Here's what I'm going to say.

[John Gabris]

You're not going to offend anybody. We don't have a message board, and we don't interact with messages.

[Adam Pally]

No, you don't Front porching is always the best. Like, okay, I got you. I'm gonna say something fucking crazy about waffles. It's like, so low stakes in the end where you're like, all right, here's the thing about me.

[Ego Wodom]

Here's what I'm gonna say. Breakfast, wack as fuck to me. I also hot take. Don't fuck with cereal. So when we were talking about, like, so I bought that $50 box, and I was like, maybe. I think anytime I'm eating cereal. And Ep, who is one of the eps on Mr.

[Announcer]

Throwback.

[Ego Wodom]

Hell of a call. He heard me saying. This is someone where I was like, I don't fuck with cereal. Anytime I'm eating cereal, I'm kind of like, how does it. How has it come to this? There's so much good food in the world. I'm like, I'm kind of disappointed that that's what I'm having. But if I go meet up with someone for brunch, I'm still. I'm genuinely just not thrilled to be having what I'm having. And I'll have eggs, but I'm like, okay.

[Adam Pally]

I think the brunch menu will have, like, a burger or chicken salad.

[Ego Wodom]

But then I'm like, it's just. It feels too early to be eating and I, like, will binge at the end of the night. I mean, this is a very. I'll forget to eat until. Which sounds very eating disorder. Y. But it's. And people like, you haven't eaten all day. Are you good? I'm like, trust me, I eat. But when I do eat at 8pm or 6pm for the first time, I'm eating.

[John Gabris]

It's a tsunami.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah, it's a tsunami. We're having a meal, and then we're having a kind of a second meal.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

But I do that. I do that too sometimes. Especially late. Lately, over the last couple years, I've noticed, and I feel like you saw this at work. Like, I don't like to eat lunch at work. I feel like it's. If I. If I have to eat lunch, like, if it's like a 5am call, and by the time we're stopping at 2, I'm starving. I'll try to get, like, sweet greens, a salad, Just something not from the lunch cart. Because once you walk over there.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

They're like, we have banana pie. It gets a little bigger.

[John Gabris]

It gets a little bigger. You have a lemonade. It's like, you don't need that.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

The who thing is, like, too much And I found that when I come back, like the whole half of the day is just me waiting for it to be over.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah. Because you get, you get the itis.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Like, I found that.

[Adam Pally]

I've never called it that,

[John Gabris]

but I find that.

[Ego Wodom]

Not even with your friends? Not even alone with your friends.

[Adam Pally]

We called it that my whole life growing up, even with my black friends. And then I just like started saying it. Like in my 20s. People were like, yeah, I know you're only saying the suffix, but it's still bad. Okay. And then what happens when people are 15 minutes late? Is there a word, a three letter acronym for that? No, you don't say that. Say that. I'm learning a lot.

[Ego Wodom]

Thank you.

[Adam Pally]

New York City.

[John Gabris]

Seems like you learned a lot in the wrong direction beforehand.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, yeah. Let you into a little bit of the genetic right. Trash element.

[John Gabris]

But like, you, you. I couldn't like, work. And so I started not eating at work. And like, like, I feel like my work got better.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

But as a result, then also when 9pm rolls around, I hit that.

[Ego Wodom]

No.

[Adam Pally]

Boo.

[John Gabris]

You know?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. When you're like done for the day and you do the math and you're like, I don't have to be back here till nine for nine hours.

[Ego Wodom]

It's crazy.

[John Gabris]

Chicago, all hell. I would hit those restaurants, there'd be a different Italian restaurant that was like five stars around the corner every night.

[Ego Wodom]

Because, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Dream I'm actually going to Chicago in a. In a couple weeks before I come out here again. Hit me with a reco.

[Ego Wodom]

You know, I really liked our. Me like, girl and the goat, which I thought was gonna be overrated. Trivoli Tavern.

[John Gabris]

Trivoli Tavern was my favorite. For vibes.

[Ego Wodom]

For vibes. Honestly, I was really fucking with the food. There was a night I ordered from Duck. Duck. Goat. Is it.

[John Gabris]

Cause it's from girl in the goosey sister restaurant.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah. So like, and I, I ordered into the hotel from there and I got a bunch of shit. I was like, okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna eat tonight. And I'm. And I was not fucking with the food. And halfway through I was like, you don't like this. Ordered another meal, but I ate half of the first one. Ordered another meal from Tivoli Tavern.

[Adam Pally]

And if I was a cartoon, I would have heart eyes right now.

[Ego Wodom]

I'm like, I'm not enjoying this.

[John Gabris]

I'm like, we got Trivoli Tavern has like this little like outside area.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Every one of the spots that's there is like amazing. There's the rib place, the barbecue place that's attached to a coffee shop underneath Green Street. There's a ramen spot that uses the meat from Green Street. It's like a little like dangerous. It's dangerous.

[Ego Wodom]

It's dangerous. But I want you to also. I keep hearing about a place called Ooi. It is, Yeah. I think it's on the south side.

[John Gabris]

So it reminds me of the Martin Lawrence. You remember the Martin Lawrence special?

[Adam Pally]

Until that.

[John Gabris]

Is it. Until that where he, where he. It's the, it's his first special where he talks about what happened when he got arrested. And it was, it was like a huge deal. I was, I was like. I went to see in the movies.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And, and the, I remember the tagline of it, like the thing that played every time because it was all about like why he even said like, why is Martin Lawrence running down Sunset Boulevard crying in sweatpants with his sword? And then, and then like the big thing was like Martin being like, cause I was smoking that.

[Adam Pally]

Ooh,

[Ego Wodom]

It is basically that. Ooh wee.

[Adam Pally]

It is.

[John Gabris]

I gotta go there.

[Ego Wodom]

You should. There's multiple locations and my sister in law told me about it and then my friend Rashida, who's from Chicago was like, oh yeah, that's the spot. But I never, I never made it out. I never quite made it out of the way. But it's like on my list, ingrained in my head. If you have time, I feel like you should go on our behalf.

[John Gabris]

Chicago is also like. It's, it was, it's so. It's, it's the best eating to work in city by far. And. But there's also this like New York Yorkie because it does have a little bit of like grimy bar, getting out at four in the morning vibe.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, it's a drinking town.

[John Gabris]

It's a drinking town.

[Announcer]

There.

[John Gabris]

There are a couple nights where like I would, I would be with like David Casp at some bar and he'd be like, yeah, I lived right above this. You can get burgers in the bar. Like at the bar you can order a drink and then the person will turn around and flip a burger. Be like cool. Four rats would just like run by. Oh, you know, and you're like.

[Ego Wodom]

And then you're ok. And that's, and that's where you, you lose me. And I'm not eating at a place with a beating.

[John Gabris]

Eat there. I was like, cool. But like you forget because it's. The streets are wider. Yeah, it's, it's this, it's like, for some reason, not as, like, beat down is here.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Gabris]

So you feel like you're like, oh, this is going to be cool.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, but this is actually.

[John Gabris]

Oh, this is like Gangsterville. And, like, there's been, like, Al Capone ran this place into the ground. There's a second city underneath because the whole place burned down. It's, like, quite nefarious.

[Adam Pally]

I eating on set when in the rare occasion I'm booked to be on a set.

[Ego Wodom]

Life in first position.

[Adam Pally]

Life in first position. Yes. Yeah, that's Allison Libby, a former guest of this podcast. We started the mantra life in first position. So that you feel like that's how you like, well, hey, right now I'm living life in first position, AKA no offers. But when I'm on set is when I eat. Cause that's when I pretend I have a personal chef.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

You know what I mean? And I eat the healthiest I've ever eaten for three days in a row. If I'm working four days, I fall off. But on three days, I'm like, no, I'll just have some yogurt and a coffee, black. And then at lunch, I'm like, veggies, lean protein, and another coffee. And then when I wrap, I'm like, well, you have to work early tomorrow, so blah, blah, blah. But then you just get to that fourth day, and they're like, we're doing a burrito truck. And I'm like, fill my ass with alcohol.

[John Gabris]

You have to hate the trucks.

[Ego Wodom]

The truck. Well, I see. I. I love the trucks because I oftentimes think that catering. No shade to all the catering companies. I'm like, what's going on with the seasoning or lack thereof? Why is everything dry?

[John Gabris]

Because. Because it. They're feeding so many people that they want the least complaints.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And it's like, I think that's what it is. It's like if everything is just brown, if the color. If the color of the catering table. That's why all those catering tables have, like, can bone. Everything is bone.

[Adam Pally]

Well, that's why when you go to a catering truck and you go over to where the forks and knives are, there's 25 hot sauce,

[Ego Wodom]

not going to be seasoned.

[John Gabris]

It's up to you.

[Adam Pally]

And Adam's like this, too. And I. I'm sure you are, too. I go like, when. If I'm. If there's a truck, and it's like, this is an interesting food that not everyone. Like, that is cool in this town or this city that we're In. I cannot resist the when in Rome mentality gets me so hard where I'm like, I'm not going to try a kolache when I'm in Houston. You know, I got to do. And I do these fucking thing. And like, I. So when the truck comes in on a location shoot, I can't.

[Ego Wodom]

I cannot see what's up.

[John Gabris]

What's the favorite place you've shot?

[Ego Wodom]

Goodness, that's Italy. Italy. We did Spin Me Round in Italy. We were in Cinque Terre, but then. But was cool. Is that like Cinque Terre? Oh, shit.

[Adam Pally]

Is it like, it's on the west coast. It's on the water.

[John Gabris]

Correct. Or is it like. Cause Italy has, like, three modes. There's like city, beach with rocks, and then, like, mountains.

[Adam Pally]

Cinque Terre is like five cities by the water.

[John Gabris]

Okay.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. And we rip to a good friend, Jeff Baena. That's his movie. And Adam and I went to Italy for the little hours.

[Ego Wodom]

Oh, really? Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

For another baena.

[Ego Wodom]

He took me to Italy for the first time ever. And. And that was my first time. Yeah. Which is kind of amazing. And he. Like I was telling someone recently, I was like, italy, that's where. That's where I come alive. I'm like, Italy. But we. He took us also. He was like, you have to have pesto in the region where pesto was created. And so he took us to a restaurant. Like, I shot one day. Like, I went the last day of my. My first day was the film's last day.

[John Gabris]

Tough place to be.

[Ego Wodom]

To be. Tough place to be.

[Announcer]

No, there's.

[Adam Pally]

There's. There's. There's two sides to that coin. Because I've managed in my career, my super. Like, I rarely ever guest star in three or four of my guest stars or. And. Or when I worked a day player on a movie were the last days of the season. And every single time, I'm like, this is too high pressure. Everyone's got senioritis. The good.

[Ego Wodom]

The one you're allowed to prefix on

[Adam Pally]

that one's got the itis.

[Ego Wodom]

Senioritis.

[Adam Pally]

Quick, quick, quick. Don't cancel me. Everyone's got. So they're all, like, ready to get the fuck out of there. The drama is fully escalated where it's like Samberg is pissed or whatever, you know, like that. But there's also the element of, like, we got six sushi trucks at once because we're all celebrating the finale and I'm just like, the guy there for one day. Like, we're celebrating.

[Ego Wodom]

We worked so hard.

[Adam Pally]

Ice Cream. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

That's like a famous Paul Rudd story about that at the end, like the finale of Friends.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And everyone's like, cast picture. And. And. And Paul Rudd, like, steps in. He's like, can't believe we did it, guys. And like, the final cast picture is like the six of them and Paul Rudd.

[Ego Wodom]

It is kind of amazing because I'm like, you. They. They all had senioritis. And it was like, we're wrapping this up. We're kind of chilling. And I was like, it's my first day of work and you're just gonna take me to have pesto in the region where it was created. Trophy Al Pesto. So good. It was so, so good. And like, that's been a favorite. But that's so get to do that thing. I'm watching White Lotus and I was watching thinking, like, I wonder if it was fun to shoot in Thailand. I imagine I would get tired of being in Thailand.

[John Gabris]

Natasha was there for like, six months.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodom]

And. And I saw them. Parker Posey said, like, we all basically had stomach issues the whole time. And I'm like, I would be prime candidate for that because as much as I eat, I have a sensitive stomach.

[Adam Pally]

And so my nickname with the crew would be 10 2. You know, like, where's Davis? It's like he dropped the mic in the toilet. He's going to be little while in

[John Gabris]

the hole in the ground.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Were you. You were the one who telling me, right? Because. Because of SAG rules, there's like the turnaround. So if they do have a break and they fly home or fly somewhere else, they. When they come back, they need like a two day.

[John Gabris]

Two day.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. So. Oh, wow.

[John Gabris]

So.

[Adam Pally]

So you can't, like, you can't really get long breaks. But Walton Goggins never left. He just stayed in Thailand.

[John Gabris]

I had lunch last week with Tracy.

[Ego Wodom]

Okay. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And his wife Carrie met us. And of course, as soon as she sat down, I was like, tell me. I got to know about White Leslie. Tell me everything.

[Announcer]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And the one spoilers. She wouldn't give me any spoilers, but she. But what she did talk about was how hard it is to shoot in Thailand and how she has young children. So she would. And we were shooting, and so we were in Chicago. She'd have to fly from Thailand to Chicago and like, all this stuff.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

And I was like, what are the other people with kids do? Like, what are like Walton Goggins you do? And she was like, stayed.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I'll be speaking full time. Yeah. You're like, catch me making my own coconuts in the morning, chopping the tops off. And she'd be like a full local.

[John Gabris]

All these, like, working moms are like, are we done?

[Ego Wodom]

I gotta get on the wait to see my children.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I'm dying for a job. I might PA on the next White Lotus just to fucking speak. Like, I speak English. Bring you with you, you know.

[Ego Wodom]

Dang.

[John Gabris]

Am ego. This is so fun. You're the best.

[Ego Wodom]

Thank you so much.

[John Gabris]

Thank you so much for. For talking to us and hanging with us and we talk. Are you. Are you?

[Announcer]

Hell, yeah.

[John Gabris]

Are you on this week?

[Ego Wodom]

No, we're off this week and we're off next week as well. And so she's chilling. Chilling.

[Adam Pally]

She's doing shoulder rehab. She's doing physical therapy.

[Ego Wodom]

She actually is.

[Adam Pally]

Which is what? Thank you. I'm glad to hear.

[Ego Wodom]

I am doing shoulder rehab and physical.

[John Gabris]

Maybe let's go to a game next week.

[Ego Wodom]

Okay. I'm so down.

[John Gabris]

All right.

[Adam Pally]

That's actually a strong piece of advice to go out on. If you do get hurt, rehab it. Go by Eggo, not Eggo's mom.

[Ego Wodom]

Yes, exactly. It's true.

[Adam Pally]

It's true.

[Ego Wodom]

You actually have to rehab it. Don't just let it run.

[Adam Pally]

Don't copy Dr. Wodom. Copy comedian Wodem.

[Ego Wodom]

You should do what Dr. Wodom says, not what Dr. Wodom does. Basically, just like your mom, do as she says, not as she does. And you rehab it. And don't try to work out on your injury, because you don't need to do that. You're gonna make it worse.

[Adam Pally]

You can go for long walks, some squats.

[Ego Wodom]

I know, but here's the. I know I gotta hit the squats. Cause my thing is, when I was running last year, I ran a half marathon. And I know we were wrapping up, but.

[John Gabris]

No, we're not. I'm just trying to get you.

[Ego Wodom]

The bag says Staying Alive. Me and my ADHD. I'm like, is that merch?

[Adam Pally]

This is merch. Use T99 promo code. Staying Alive. Go to staying alive.com/merch to pick up your white paper bag.

[John Gabris]

Inside it has Pete Holmes.

[Adam Pally]

It's got the magic mind. And his. Also his weird shampoo sharpie.

[Ego Wodom]

No, but I. When I was running, I didn't like what running did to my body. I feel like it injured me. I had a belly and a flat ass. And so I'm not anti running.

[Adam Pally]

I remember that. I remember that.

[Ego Wodom]

Everyone.

[Adam Pally]

We were all texting about it.

[Ego Wodom]

You see, she got no ass. When did that happen? I don't remember echoes going before we started shooting Mr. Throwback. And I go, I was like, I have to get my body back.

[John Gabris]

We heard we had, we had a person. We've had a couple trainers on. And one of, one of the things of advice that I've taken over the last month that I like is what did Stanger say? It's like push, pull legs. Push, pull, squat.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Is. Is all like if you can push something, pull something and squat.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

That's a good workout. And it doesn't have to be like an hour and a half. Like if you can do three sets, sets of squats and three sets of push up and three sets of a pull. Yeah, that's a good workout.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Okay. Stanger's advice is if you're gonna do nothing.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Something even five minutes is better than zero stinger.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. Push, pull.

[Ego Wodom]

And because he's swole.

[Announcer]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

He's in his mid-40s. Been through some health and.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And still.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. If I've been through some of the health that he has, like, I'd be John Camp.

[Adam Pally]

I'm a year and a half away from be John Candy now.

[John Gabris]

I want to plug your podcast.

[Ego Wodom]

Yes. Thanks, dad.

[John Gabris]

Yes.

[Ego Wodom]

You came on.

[John Gabris]

I was the best.

[Ego Wodom]

I'm gonna get you on.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabris]

Yo, but this guy, this guy's got a lot of dad.

[Ego Wodom]

You got a lot of dad.

[Adam Pally]

I got dad issues. And I'm. I'm a crazy good uncle.

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah. See? And we're, we're breaking the mold in the next season. It's gonna be every where everyone's. Everyone's invited cuz everyone's got dad.

[John Gabris]

You did so well, right?

[Ego Wodom]

Yeah, I think, I think it did pretty well. We wanted to do better. I want. I'm an ambitious bitch. So, like. Yeah, what can I say?

[Adam Pally]

This has been ambitious Bitch with Echo wood. Oh, that's a sketch I wrote too fast, basically.

[Ego Wodom]

Yes, it's true, Lauren.

[John Gabris]

I can't do writing night.

[Ego Wodom]

I can't do writing night because I'm in a sling. I'm right dominant and it's my right shoulder. What can I do?

[Adam Pally]

But I think I can do ambitious bitch at the best.

[Ego Wodom]

Ambitious bitch. Che hit Colin up. Yeah. You guys will love her.

[John Gabris]

Awesome.

[Ego Wodom]

Thank you for having me.

[Adam Pally]

Thanks for coming. Oh, man, that's so fun. She makes me laugh so hard. Her attitude and her phrasing for so many things are just. They just make me laugh. I'm gonna eat.

[John Gabris]

She's the funniest. I sent her the most embarrassing text after the first day we Worked together just like, it was just like, I love working with you. I love being with you. I love hanging out with you. Can we be best friends? Yeah. She wills.

[Adam Pally]

She's the best, you know, and I, I love her. I love following her on Instagram because I'll go through SNL like I'm a 20 year comedy nerd, so I'm like, I don't need to look at it. And then I'll stop when she posts a menu from a restaurant.

[John Gabris]

I know.

[Adam Pally]

Well, zoom in with this place.

[Announcer]

I know, I know.

[Adam Pally]

And she, and that's a, that's a sign of what our fandom is, is that it's like, oh, cool, I love comedy, but move, move, move.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, I know.

[Adam Pally]

And she's always, literally, she did an episode of High and Mighty about going to restaurants and just talked for like an hour and a half about restaurants.

[John Gabris]

She's so out there. Like, she's out on the town. She's like, she's similar.

[Adam Pally]

She's a good person to text about Rekos.

[John Gabris]

And similarly, she lives life like we do. Like, if she's in a place to work, she's gonna go out in that place and eat and like, she'll find

[Adam Pally]

some shit out there.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. And like that, that is a really nice thing.

[Announcer]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Another reason why we gotta get this show on the road. So we could just get like, you know, we are health and wellness podcast. So we could eat at food trucks across America so we can have giardia on our, on our health and wellness this podcast.

[John Gabris]

Giardia, the Italian cook.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, yeah. The little chopped up spicy veggie.

[John Gabris]

Oh, sorry.

[Adam Pally]

Yes. I ate breakfast at the Giada Cafe every morning in when I stayed at Caesars this last time.

[John Gabris]

Really? Just hoping you'd see her.

[Adam Pally]

Just because it was at the, the closest to my elevator lobby. Caesars too big.

[John Gabris]

I, I'm not a Caesars guy anymore. No, I, I, I honestly, I am kind of only win Encore guy. Oh, I'm, I'm Encore is really small. It's got a really nice casino.

[Adam Pally]

Cosmo centric because of the balconies being on the small screen. I know, but I think I need to, I need to.

[John Gabris]

I think Cosmo is a fight. You get a fight every time. I have never not been in a Cosmo elevator with someone's like, what are you looking at?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, well, the energy at the Cosmo elevator and the Cosmo crab stables are like, I don't like them.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, that's why the win. It's almost like people are older. So it's more like, that's more my

[Adam Pally]

vibe because I want to go where the gamblers are.

[John Gabris]

Yeah. The win in the, and the specifically the, the encore is the one I like. But, but they're, but, but staying on that property, on that side is my new death.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I might have to do that next. I, I, I have decided after staying at Caesars and not enjoying it that I need to establish loyalty. I need to create like, Yes. I need to pick a place and be like, start from there.

[John Gabris]

After the last time I was at the encore and I won so much, they have been emailing me every day for eight months begging me to come back so they can get that money back.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, well, tell them you want a two bedroom suite and then we're going.

[John Gabris]

I'm in.

[Adam Pally]

I'm in.

[John Gabris]

We actually need like a five bedroom suite. Cause we need, we're gonna invite Ego Dr. Rad.

[Adam Pally]

It's gonna be like Sesame street for staying alive.

[Ryan Reynolds (Mint Mobile Ad)]

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[John Gabris]

Thanks for, thanks for tuning in.

[Adam Pally]

Stay alive, brother. You have been listening to Staying Alive with John Gabris and Adam Pali. A Smartless media production in a shadow association with Sirius xm.

[John Gabris]

Produced by Devin Tory Bryant and Anne Harris. Edited and engineered by Devin Tory Bryant.

[Adam Pally]

Associate producer and video producer is Maddie McCann. Social media producer Tommy Galgano.

[John Gabris]

Assistant engineer, Kyle McGraw. Special thanks to Jared O' Connell at Sirius XM, executive producers are John Gabris.

[Adam Pally]

Ooh me. Adam Pally. Ooh, you, Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Richard Corson and Bernie Kaminsky.

[John Gabris]

Just so everyone, everyone knows we do not have a discord.

[Adam Pally]

Don't reach out to us.

[John Gabris]

See us on the street. Walk the other way or you'll catch hands. It's so nice that you're here on your 29th birthday week.

[Ego Wodom]

Thank you so much.

[John Gabris]

That's so nice of you.

[Ego Wodom]

29 though.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, but I am 29 though. Smart.

[Ego Wodom]

Bless media.

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