Reload: Trainer Tips & Sauna Dips (w/ Ryan Stanger)

Summary

Staying Alive with Jon Gabrus & Adam Pally
SmartLess Media
Reload: Trainer Tips & Sauna Dips (w/ Ryan Stanger)
March 19, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this "Reload" episode, hosts Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally revisit their lively, insight-packed health and wellness conversation with comedian and personal trainer Ryan Stanger. Also featuring Jason Bateman and Sean Hayes, the show blends practical fitness advice, real talk about routines, and lots of irreverent humor. The group explores topics from saunas and hyperbaric chambers to effective workout structures and approachable health habits, with a focus on making wellness less intimidating and more accessible.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ryan Stanger’s Health Philosophy & Experimentation

[08:05, 08:12 – 09:00]

• Ryan shares that he's open to trying everything in the wellness sphere (“Fucking everything. Everything that'll come up on this show. I've done it. I've tried it. I'm either doing it now or I've abandoned.” – Stanger, 08:12).
• He’s often the first point of contact for friends when they hear about a new health trend.
• Recent experiments: 100 consecutive sessions in a hyperbaric oxygen chamber.

2. Hyperbaric Chamber Therapy

[10:08 – 15:00]

• Types of chambers and their medical use; some are submarine-sized for group sessions (UCLA reference).
• Used for increasing oxygen absorption, healing injuries, post-surgical recovery, diabetic wounds, and sometimes by athletes for muscle regeneration.
• Stanger clarifies the pressure/oxygen process, potential risks and safety — e.g., no electronics or sparks while on pure O₂ ("If you're taking Pure O2 in, they don't let you because if you have one little spark...right" – Stanger, 15:17).
• LeBron James & other elites' use: sometimes overnight, more often for short, intense sessions.

3. Sauna Routine & Benefits

[15:49 – 24:01]

• Ryan’s been doing daily barrel sauna for 10 years; his is a traditional dry sauna at home.
• Practical tips: look for authentic wood (Canadian red cedar) and quality heaters to avoid toxins.
• Cites pivotal Finnish study on daily sauna use (men 42–65, over 20 years) showing a 60% reduction in “all-cause mortality” (“Crazy numbers like a 60% drop in all cause mortality.” – Stanger, 19:55).
• Health impacts: possible reduction in Alzheimer's risk, improved cardiovascular function, shortened duration/severity of respiratory illnesses.
• Anecdotal and observed effects: boosts heat tolerance, shortens illness when used acutely, and may help build a psychological positive association with health routines.

4. Sauna vs. Infrared — Is There a Difference?

[20:24]

• Evidence mainly for traditional saunas, but Stanger speculates the sweating/heat exposure may be the important factor regardless (“It's just the act of sweating, I think so. I mean it's tough to know.” – Stanger, 20:30).

5. Cold Plunge/Cryotherapy

[27:27 – 28:20]

• Stanger occasionally cold plunges but doesn't own one at home; discusses psychological and adaptive benefits (“More psychological than anything” – Stanger, 27:50).
• Describes the appeal of sauna/cold plunge contrast ("contrast therapy”) and how it builds resilience and enjoyment.

6. Being a Personal Trainer & Finding a Good One

[30:07 – 32:41]

• Stanger details the trainer's responsibility: “To both your clients and your kid to like stay in shape...to show them like, this is my job?” – Pally, 30:09
• Looks for certifications, continuing education, and degrees (exercise science, kinesiology) but says chemistry and personal attention matter most.
• Warning sign: “If they don't ask you what your goals are, you probably want to bail.” – Stanger, 32:36
• First session: should include a talk test, functional movement assessment (push, pull, squat) to gauge baseline fitness.

7. Tips for Clients:

[34:19 – 35:25]

• Stanger offers free consult sessions to check mutual fit—chemistry is key.
• Client traits for success: consistency, willingness to show up, openness to assessment.

8. Designing Home Gyms for (Very) Wealthy Clients

[43:12 – 45:32]

• Stanger’s side specialty: home gym design for high-net-worth clients, focusing on custom cold plunges, saunas, and correct flooring ("You put the cheat code in for unlimited budget..." – Stanger, 45:09).

9. Simple, Effective Weekly Health Prescription

[57:25 – 60:54]

• What’s the minimum everyone should be doing?
  • Resistance training 1–3x/week: focused on “push, pull, squat” (e.g., chest/military press, row/pull up, back or front squats/lunges) – to counter muscle atrophy (sarcopenia), especially in legs.
  • Cardiovascular exercise at least weekly, ideally extended effort HIIT (see below), but anything that gets heart rate up counts.
• “If you can practice good attendance, you’ll always win.” – Stanger, 73:53

10. The Norwegian 4x4 HIIT Protocol

[49:36 – 53:43]

• This interval workout: 10-min warmup, four 4-min segments at 85%+ max HR (each followed by 3-min recovery), plus a cooldown (about 40 min total).
• Benefits: shown to reduce circulating tumor cells, boost brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF), and is easier to stick to than complex routines.
• Does not require expensive classes; works with Peloton, treadmills, rowers, etc.
• "Just do something – anything is better than nothing." – Stanger, re: adjusting if the perfect workout feels overwhelming (73:18).

11. Dietary Guidance

[61:56 – 65:08]

• Prioritize: lean protein, lots of vegetables (especially cruciferous), get enough dietary fiber.
• Berries (esp. blueberries, blackberries) are the best fruits for nutrition.
• Fish oils: recommended, esp. if not eating wild-caught, low-mercury fish.
• On supplements: “Look for third-party lab verification” (as the industry is lightly regulated) – Stanger, 66:50.

12. Attitude & Accessibility

[72:24 – 75:44]

• Stanger emphasizes removing intimidation from fitness: “If you don't feel like going to the gym, but you like doing biceps and it's leg day, fucking get your ass in there and do biceps again. Who gives a fuck as long as you show up?” – Stanger, 72:57
• “Perfect is the enemy of good” & “Anything is better than nothing” are the takeaways.
• Find what you enjoy, minimize friction, and tailor routines to make showing up easy and positive.

13. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You’re not a guy who's at the China buffet every night and then going to the sauna during the day.” – Stanger, on self-selecting healthy lifestyles in sauna studies [22:07]
• “Thick thighs save lives." – Bateman, on quadriceps and longevity [58:47]
• “Perfect is the enemy of good.” – Stanger [73:07]
• “If it feels like shit and I hate it, of course you're not gonna exercise, right? Do something else. Find something fun.” – Stanger [75:28]

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Key Timestamps

• 08:12 – Ryan discusses his “try everything” approach to health
• 10:08–15:00 – Deep dive into hyperbaric chambers and their medical/athletic uses
• 15:58–24:01 – Stanger’s daily sauna routine and the science behind it
• 27:43–28:20 – Cold plunges and the psychological aspect of wellness
• 30:09–32:41 – Stanger's tips on what makes a good trainer, and how to find one
• 34:19–35:25 – How to be a great client; importance of chemistry
• 43:12–45:32 – Tales from designing “unlimited budget” home gyms
• 49:36–53:43 – Norwegian 4x4 HIIT protocol explained
• 57:25–60:54 – The “bare minimum” health routine for everyone
• 61:56–65:08 – Stanger’s practical approach to healthy eating and supplementation
• 72:24–75:44 – The real secret: Attendance, consistency, and joy over perfection

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Tone & Style

• Frank, funny, energetic, sometimes raunchy and always non-judgmental.
• Constant reminders that the advice is not medical and should be tailored to personal enjoyment and sustainability.

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Final Takeaways

• Keep it simple: Push-pull-squat, plus some cardio, each week.
• Show up: Consistency trumps “the perfect routine.”
• Find what you enjoy to make healthy habits stick.
• Scientific curiosity: Be open to new ideas but prioritize practices that fit your life.
• Don’t stress if you can’t do it all – just do something.
• Community and laughter matter: Integrating humor and support makes wellness sustainable.

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Ryan Stanger on where to find more:

• Action Boys Podcast (with Jon Gabrus)
• Dumbbells Podcast (fun, info-light fitness chats with Aaron McGown)

Notable Quote:
“The most important thing is showing up... if you can practice good attendance, you'll always win.” – Ryan Stanger [73:53]

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This episode is a treasure trove of motivation, practical health tips, and encouragement for anyone trying to stay healthy—no matter where you’re starting from.

Transcript

[Jason Bateman]

Smart less.

[Sean Hayes]

This is one of the classics.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, I love that we're doing an intro before we hear our cold open and intro again with these re released episodes.

[Sean Hayes]

Well, I think that's what podcasts are.

[Ryan Stanger]

Right.

[Sean Hayes]

Eventually you're just gonna, you're just gonna. Then we're gonna do a best of intros.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. We're gonna do a comp episode where it's just us going and here's an intro that we love.

[Sean Hayes]

You know what intro I love? It's Sean Clemens.

[Jason Bateman]

Just keep adding. We never get to a guest. We're just introing and introing and intro.

[Sean Hayes]

But this is a classic. You know what, you know what? We're going to revisit the Ryan Stanger episode today. And you know, this one I, I get the most feedback on as one that has the most advice that people actually have started to follow.

[Jason Bateman]

Stanger's a pro. I mean he hosts a fitness podcast himself, the Dumbbells. And also this is a guy who I've recorded more podcasts with than almost any other human being alive because we've been doing action boys for a decade now. But he's such a reliable communicator about this stuff. And he, and you know, he's. He himself was a personal trainer in a D1 Division D1 NCAA football player. I got asked to go to Bill's training camp and passed because he didn't want to try but put through a table. Yeah. You know, he doesn't like wings. The. But so it's so fun to get to put some. The meat that we edited out of the Stanger episode and get it back in there. And I, I'm so happy that people are, are reacting to because he, he's one of those guys who's really, he's like ideal, an ideal guest for our show in that he's our funny friend who happens to also have worked professionally in that. In the health and wellness industry. So yeah, you don't really, you don't really get. It was like for, for the smartless mandate of like we want to get some experts and we want to get some comedians. It's like, well, we found one that's both. So it's about time we rerelease the episode. Let people get another crack at the old rhino.

[Sean Hayes]

Push, pull and squat.

[Jason Bateman]

Push, pull, squat. Something better than nothing are the two, two biggest mantras I've gotten from this dude. Well, hopefully you guys pick up some new stuff and I'm looking forward to listening because now it's been long enough since this Aired that I'm gonna have to listen again.

[Sean Hayes]

I forgot a lot about it.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, a lot about it. And then also. Whatever. I won't even know what's new in there, so maybe you won't either. Enjoy, listeners.

[Sean Hayes]

Stay alive. Did you do that at the end? I love this tracksuit. And this. The. The. The sneakers are amazing. And it's like, certainly a intentional throwback kind of vibe.

[Ryan Stanger]

It was my dad's.

[Sean Hayes]

Really?

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. And that's your DeLorean that you just got out of?

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. That was Doc Brown's, though.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, really? So what. Where did you. Or when?

[Ryan Stanger]

2019.

[Jason Bateman]

Ryan Stanger. So stoked to have you here with us today. It's weird because you co host a podcast with me.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. You're gonna have to pretend like you haven't heard some of the stuff I say or. I don't know.

[Jason Bateman]

We haven't done six hours a week for eight years. But we're so stoked to have you. You're our first guest that is from both the comedy world and the fitness world, officially.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

And no pressure. He might not be funny or informative at all in this episode.

[Ryan Stanger]

No. It's gon pretty light on the information and light on the jokes, but I think you guys will see that's always

[Sean Hayes]

the risk, you know, Jack of all trades, master of.

[Jason Bateman]

Not like they say, like a TV VCR combo. The TV is not great and the VCR ain't great either.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

But hey, at least it's in one package.

[Ryan Stanger]

This might go in the dumpster, but it's good practice for you guys.

[Jason Bateman]

It's like running with a weighted vest on.

[Sean Hayes]

Nice for us to get some reps,

[Jason Bateman]

but this fit is tremendous. And I know it's. I've heard legends of this because this was. You saw this hanging in your dad's closet?

[Ryan Stanger]

No, no, no. My dad showed up one day, not a brand guy at all. And I grew up, you know, in the 90s, like a total brand kid. I didn't have any of them, but I wanted.

[Sean Hayes]

Where did you grow up?

[Ryan Stanger]

Just in Northern California.

[Sean Hayes]

So not Marin, Like San Mateo?

[Ryan Stanger]

No, it was more Sacramento.

[Jason Bateman]

Sacramento city, baby.

[Ryan Stanger]

Nothing going on.

[Sean Hayes]

Nothing going on. Ladybird.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. And that made it look good.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

But the old man showed up one day with this on after we'd been denied Jordans any of this stuff. And we were like, what the. He wore it one time. And then later I add, like. Like maybe two years ago, I said, what happened to that flight suit? And he was like, hold on. And Then he sent me a picture of it, and he's like, I got it. I wore it one time. He sent it out to me.

[Sean Hayes]

You do look like someone could, like, forest gump you into the picture of the dream team standing along as, like,

[Jason Bateman]

the trainer Christian Laitner's dad.

[Sean Hayes]

I'm not.

[Ryan Stanger]

I'm not dumb enough to be gumped.

[Sean Hayes]

Well, I.

[Ryan Stanger]

I'm doing a podcast, Pally, I gotta say. There was one show, like, an awards show, and you presented at it, and there was something they did with, like, puppies in it, and you did a bit on the awards show, and I was so nervous for you. I'm like, he's gonna get in trouble. Like, you were just roasting the whole awards show. You're like, this is dumb. Pete is gonna come after this. And I was just like, holy. I was a fan and I.

[Jason Bateman]

They're gonna.

[Ryan Stanger]

He's gonna get in trouble.

[Jason Bateman]

Can you even remember what I was gonna say?

[Sean Hayes]

This is tough because it's bad when you can't remember which one.

[Ryan Stanger]

I didn't notice a pattern after that, but I. I loved it so much and was scared now.

[Jason Bateman]

This is so funny because I don't know what you're talking about, but it is the most believable story everywhere. I'm like, all the details fit.

[Sean Hayes]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Jason Bateman]

So walk the tightrope. Crushed, maybe. Offended some people.

[Ryan Stanger]

Crushed for sure. But it's like, what the Is this? This? You're gonna get burned for this. You know? Should I release these? It. I was like, oh, shit. Don't do it.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, that's how most people feel about my comedy.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. I've been co hosting with you for years.

[Sean Hayes]

No, I'm. I'm. I've grown a lot. I feel like this is a pattern that's happening on the podcast is me having to apologize. I've grown. I've grown a lot.

[Jason Bateman]

I'm trying not to adopt all those puppies. So.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, I'm sorry about the load I bear bore on you.

[Ryan Stanger]

It's all good. We got a sled team, you know.

[Sean Hayes]

That's good.

[Jason Bateman]

See?

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. Beat Palin's husband.

[Sean Hayes]

That's good. Oh, well. So the outcome is rude.

[Jason Bateman]

Really great.

[Ryan Stanger]

I got. So this is. You guys are under the smartless banner.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, that's us.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. Let's talk business.

[Ryan Stanger]

I am forever a fan. After I. I listened to an episode, and Sean. Kevin Bacon was on, and Sean was like, how does it feel to lose all your money to Bernie Madoff?

[Sean Hayes]

Wow.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

Like, Bacon was like Beth.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. That's the kind of hard hitting journalism you're not going to get here. Also, what a guest. Kevin Bacon is the amalgamation of all three smartless men.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

If you were to sandwich them together in like a metal vice.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

They would come out as Kevin Bacon.

[Jason Bateman]

They call themselves the three degrees of Kevin Bacon.

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[Jason Bateman]

Now, Ryan, we kick off all our interviews with this question. Ryan Stanger, what are you doing to stay alive?

[Ryan Stanger]

Fucking everything. Everything that'll come up on this show. I've done it. I've tried it. I'm either doing it now or I've abandoned.

[Jason Bateman]

You are my first text about any new thing I hear about like, what's the deal with blank?

[Sean Hayes]

And now you will be mine.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, sure.

[Sean Hayes]

Again. Guess what? I try a lot of shit.

[Ryan Stanger]

I'm with you.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

I mean, have at it. But yeah. So you know, hyperbaric chamber. I just completed 100 rounds of that.

[Jason Bateman]

That's a hundred days in a row.

[Sean Hayes]

100 days in a row.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, roughly. I mean, I might have missed a day or two in there.

[Sean Hayes]

Are they. Is. Do you have one in your house?

[Ryan Stanger]

Don't. I'd love to have one. I don't. I went to a location. Now, people that are listening that are going to want to try it. It's tough to find. You know, they may not have them where you guys are.

[Sean Hayes]

And they're prohibitively expensive, I'm assuming.

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

I mean. I mean to get like medical grade, which of course is what I sought out.

[Sean Hayes]

Brother, everything I sought out is medical.

[Jason Bateman]

I want medical grade. Dabs.

[Sean Hayes]

You can't even find that unless you're on death row.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, that medical grade.

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, yeah, but that's when you finger a nurse. Yeah, a male nurse. Anyone can be a nurse.

[Sean Hayes]

Medical grade.

[Ryan Stanger]

It's. Is that what you said?

[Jason Bateman]

We're not doctors. We did a disclaimer already.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, you weren't here for that. But there's a disclaimer. We are not doctors. And this is not prescriptive.

[Jason Bateman]

These are all this is just we hear from people, we hear what they're up to.

[Sean Hayes]

And. And if you're a Podcast host. And you've been roasted by us. That is specifically for us to get ratings and engage with you.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. And we would love to have you on our podcast.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. Please come on our podcast.

[Ryan Stanger]

Hey, come on. Their pod, you know, space.

[Sean Hayes]

Thanks. After they.

[Ryan Stanger]

Brian.

[Jason Bateman]

Better guests.

[Sean Hayes]

So.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, they're like, these guys need the help. What the fuck, Stanger?

[Sean Hayes]

So, all right, so you're.

[Ryan Stanger]

You're.

[Sean Hayes]

You're in the hyperbaric chamber now. Now explain. You go to a location. Now, what is it? It's. It what. What is the physical apparatus? What is the. What is the process?

[Ryan Stanger]

Well, there's multiple ways you can do

[Jason Bateman]

it, because what I'm familiar with is like a tube you lay down.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

Most of them that are. That are in the medical grade category you can sit up in and. Really? Yeah, they have a facility at ucla and that one is a fucking huge, like, submarine with multiple people in there and a tech that runs it.

[Jason Bateman]

So they do like 10. 10 people at once or something.

[Ryan Stanger]

10 people at once? Yeah. And they'll be. Sometimes there's emergencies. Like people that have the bends will come in there and they clear it all out for that.

[Sean Hayes]

How do they get the. How do you get there that quick from the ocean?

[Ryan Stanger]

I mean, they just take. You know, you can exist for a while with the bends, and then they get you there as soon as they silo.

[Sean Hayes]

Made it seem like your head would explode right away.

[Ryan Stanger]

It depends on how deep you go. Ed Harris level.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

I got scuba certified and was on the boat with a bunch of real scuba heads. And some of them have Ben's insurance, which is, if they get it, a chopper will take them directly to the nearest hyperbaric chamber.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

That makes me want to quit scuba diving.

[Ryan Stanger]

I mean, what does that cost? $4 million if you didn't have the insurance.

[Sean Hayes]

Right.

[Jason Bateman]

Chopper lifted to a hyperbaric chamber. And you're taking a chopper to and from every day for the hundred days, right?

[Ryan Stanger]

Oh, yeah, yeah. It's not necessary, but I. Traffic in la.

[Jason Bateman]

That's a cool way to land.

[Sean Hayes]

I've never had the bends, but I do own ok. Computer on Viny. Anyway, so. So, so it's.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

So you could sit up in it.

[Ryan Stanger]

The one that I use, you can sit up. And there are some that people have built, like, in their house, like, rooms. Like full rooms. No, they're like little, like saunas. Not even. Like, they're little beds that they kind of sleep in. And that, to me seems a little.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, all right. I've seen like LeBron James will like sleep eight hours in a hyperbolic chamber. Is that healthy for you?

[Ryan Stanger]

I. I think you're okay. What I could gather from it was, and how it kind of factors into recovery is that you go under a certain amount of atmospheres of pressure, so you're in this chamber. That increases the atmospheric pressure. And then you take in pure oxygen. So that. And it forces oxygen into your lungs more than what you would normally get from us just breathing the air around here.

[Jason Bateman]

Even more than just wearing like an O2 mask.

[Ryan Stanger]

More than an O2 mask. And the one that I did, you used an O2 mask. And then the other, like the ones where you're in a tank, like the submarine tank. What they would have at hospitals, there'll be multiple people that. Peeper people.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, multiple people.

[Ryan Stanger]

Multiple people that are using different oxygen schedules depending on what they need. And so you wear a space helmet looking thing and then they'll pop it off you. You take a little break and they put it back on. You stay under the pressure, but you get. You only get pure O2 in certain oxygen sequences. And then it increases blood flow. So, you know, you start creating, you know, more, you know, blood vessels and blood flow. And then. So people that have really bad wounds or diabetic wounds, they use it a lot. You know, amputate amputees trying to recover from that. Then some like, growing back limbs.

[Jason Bateman]

I'm next to a guy whose leg is developing as you're sitting there and he's like, it's happening in the newspaper.

[Ryan Stanger]

Bad for pirates. What's my angle now? Yeah, now I've got to rely on the beer parrots in there with a little.

[Sean Hayes]

There's another red beard. What am I gonna do?

[Ryan Stanger]

Says I. I guess I'll have to

[Sean Hayes]

rely on this bird. Everyone has a bird.

[Jason Bateman]

Did you say parrot with a space helmet?

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. Captain Hyperbaric says, hey, what

[Jason Bateman]

Good for blood flow.

[Ryan Stanger]

It's about as good as what I got. So. Yeah, so that, you know, a lot of amputees. Like I was reading about emergency plastic surgery. People that have like these, you know, injuries that aren't recovering.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, no.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

What about athletes, right? Like you mentioned LeBron James. I've seen this used a lot recently. I feel like I just saw like maybe like Kevin Hart doing it or something. Like, what, what, what. What is that thing that you have in your house that looks like an iron long that you get in and you sleep in?

[Ryan Stanger]

I'm, I'm. That's hyperbaric. And so I don't know what their oxygen schedule is. And so, you know, because you can't

[Jason Bateman]

breathe pure O2 for eight hours, right.

[Ryan Stanger]

I. I don't know. I don't think that they are.

[Sean Hayes]

Right. They're going for an hour.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, they're going for an hour. And if they were to go overnight, it might just be under that atmospheric

[Jason Bateman]

pressure and not have like an oxygen.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. Or it like releases oxygen in, in certain sequences.

[Jason Bateman]

So they're hoping by increasing blood flow that's like a way to repair muscle tissue. Yeah, like muscle for sure.

[Ryan Stanger]

That's exactly. If they have any kind of little micro injuries they don't even know about.

[Jason Bateman]

Right. It'll help bring blood to those wounds.

[Sean Hayes]

Can you like go in there and be on your phone and stuff?

[Ryan Stanger]

They, if you're taking Pure O2 in, they're. They don't let you because if you have one little spark. Right. You're right.

[Sean Hayes]

So I guess you can only vape.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. You could vape fill. Fill in a hyperbaric chamber up with vape smoke while there's nine other like amputees. I mean they're like, I hate this guy.

[Sean Hayes]

I hate it when P comes in for his session.

[Ryan Stanger]

But Donald Sutherland from Backdraft would encourage it.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, well that's a very specific person who's dead.

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, you guys see Backdraft to understand he's a bit of a firebug.

[Sean Hayes]

What is your day to day staying alive regimen, hike are. What's your workout schedule? What's your diet? What. What are you doing to stay this fit?

[Ryan Stanger]

Okay, so right now what I'm into is sauna. And that's been for the last 10 years. I do it every day. I have a barrel sauna at my house.

[Jason Bateman]

This is, this is what we were discussing because I, I bought. Bought when we wrapped 101 places to party before you die. I bought Paliasana and he bought me a Tudor black bay.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, that was a plug and a brag.

[Jason Bateman]

Please send us free watches. I use promo code staying alive to get.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, actually I wear a Rolex. I wear a Rolex.

[Ryan Stanger]

Check out the watch.

[Jason Bateman]

But we're, we're sauna freaks too. And like you got me kind of of tuned into saunas and I'm jealous that you have a full in his yard. In stud city you just have a wooden.

[Sean Hayes]

Is that what you call your yard?

[Ryan Stanger]

Everybody else does. Maybe I will. So.

[Sean Hayes]

So he got me this infrared sauna that's like a little like you know, super cool modern looking glass thing where you can sit down in the Bluetooth

[Ryan Stanger]

and the go in his pally come out of Superman.

[Sean Hayes]

Exactly. So I, I, I'm pretty much at. When I'm at home every day. Great hour a day. You're in a barrel sauna.

[Ryan Stanger]

Barrel sauna. So that's a more traditional dry sauna.

[Jason Bateman]

Hot rocks.

[Sean Hayes]

Hot.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, hot rocks that are heated electrically. It's got an electric heater.

[Jason Bateman]

So you don't pour water on it.

[Ryan Stanger]

No, I mean you can. As long as the rocks are hot enough and you're not getting touching the heating element they should have. The water should mostly evaporate before it touches. But it's a havari heater. The sauna is Dundalk and it's all red Canadian red cedar.

[Sean Hayes]

Sounds like a German band.

[Jason Bateman]

Don't dock me, man. What other place do you get to call out the name of your heater? The kind of wood and the company that made you sauna. Like there's no.

[Ryan Stanger]

Well, yeah, I mean, you kind of want to look into where the wood's coming from. There's a lot of drop ship companies that are coming out now because it's become popular and it could be, you know, junk wood.

[Sean Hayes]

Drop ship.

[Ryan Stanger]

That means just like Alibaba, like Amazon.

[Jason Bateman]

You get a Teemu sauna dropped off of your house this big.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

Just put your hands in it.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. You got a little finger cut, you know. Okay, that's, yeah. So you want to be careful of the, you know, the wood and make sure there's not impurities because you're sitting in there and it's cooking.

[Sean Hayes]

Right.

[Ryan Stanger]

And you're breathing it.

[Jason Bateman]

Right, Right. If it's got weird pesticides or some shit or some shellac.

[Ryan Stanger]

Right. And so all this, how often do you clean it? I don't clean it a ton. Like, great.

[Sean Hayes]

All I need to hear, we can move on.

[Ryan Stanger]

It's me and mine. Yeah. So they, it started like around 2015. This Finnish study was published and they, they looked at these guys in Finland. It's a good place to do an observational study.

[Jason Bateman]

The largest, most saunas per capita in the world is in Finland.

[Ryan Stanger]

So they could find people that were doing it.

[Sean Hayes]

No, no chefs.

[Ryan Stanger]

No.

[Jason Bateman]

That's Sweden, right?

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. Not a single chef.

[Ryan Stanger]

Sweden's good. They even have a Muppet made after one. Finland.

[Sean Hayes]

Tons of chefs. Yeah, tons of chefs.

[Jason Bateman]

I want the Finnish Muppet that's always sweating from being in sauna.

[Sean Hayes]

It's hard to do with belt. Every time we pump the water, the thing falls apart.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

Irvin Durge and low mortality rates. No meatballs in Finland either.

[Jason Bateman]

Finland.

[Sean Hayes]

Finland's kind of boring.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

And shout out our first live shows in Finland. I couldn't name a city in Finland to make it. To make a more specific.

[Ryan Stanger]

So this thing came out and people went nuts for it because they were looking at guys 42 to 65, somewhere in that kind of age. Age range. And they, they looked at him for 20 years and they accounted for other healthy lifestyle factors. And they found crazy numbers like a 60% drop in all cause mortality.

[Jason Bateman]

I love that phrase. Dr. Rhonda Patrick found my fitness. She was the first person I heard talk about this study. And the phrase all cause mortality. A 40 reduction in anything that will kill you. Yeah, it's like a crazy that. How do you not. How do you not start getting involved?

[Ryan Stanger]

It's up as high as 60, I think.

[Jason Bateman]

Jesus. You can.

[Ryan Stanger]

People should look it up. Everybody here picked up on it and they've now looked into other things that it can do for you. But that was Alzheimer's. It was all cause mortality.

[Sean Hayes]

And is that barrel versus infrared or

[Ryan Stanger]

so I don't know because in Finland they just do the other kind. But I mean it's gotta be. There's got. It's just the act of sweating, I think so. I mean it's tough to know. And people will throw around stuff like heat shock proteins and. But I don't, I don't know. I mean it's one of those.

[Sean Hayes]

I don't read any of his stuff.

[Jason Bateman]

He's a protein is the guy I follow on Only Fans.

[Ryan Stanger]

He was a great wrestler. He does solo jack off scenes.

[Sean Hayes]

I also follow Rock.

[Jason Bateman]

Imagine following an ex wrestler on Only Fan. I watched the Undertaker, Paul Bearer, Puff.

[Sean Hayes]

I follow Rock Chalk Chopra on.

[Jason Bateman]

On Only Fans, which is a rock climbing Indian guy.

[Sean Hayes]

No, he's a Kansas J fan. He's a Jayhawk fan. Who gives that spiritual advice.

[Ryan Stanger]

Other followers. Ashley Judd, like, okay, Rob Riggle.

[Jason Bateman]

What is the belief behind why saunas work? It's because the heat shocks your body, cuz.

[Sean Hayes]

Or are you sweating out to. Are you truly sweating out toxins?

[Ryan Stanger]

So I don't, I don't know. You know, toxins things. People throw that around too. I, I don't know. Like, I don't know know what this. And they may not know what the scientific mechanism is or what's happening that does it. Because it's, it's interesting too if you look at this study. So I mentioned that there are other healthy lifestyle factors because immediately people would jump to, oh well, if you sauna Every day. Then you're doing other things to take.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. You're not a guy who's at the china buffet every night and then going to the sauna during the day.

[Ryan Stanger]

No, no. So, so they factor that in diet, smoking, exercise and. But you know, observational studies are inherently flawed because you just, there's not, you're not looking at the sign. It's hard to do. Like how can you get somebody into the lab every day and do the sauna and then have a guy who

[Jason Bateman]

is exercising the same regimen but not hitting the sauna?

[Ryan Stanger]

So, you know, they're, they're tricky. But because there was, it was such a large population that they looked at, you know, two through 3,000 people, you know, people. And it's been peer reviewed. So people, you know, people do respect the study and then how robust the results were. So it's not like one of those things to where it was like, oh, you know, it's 12%.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

It's huge numbers.

[Jason Bateman]

And so even with a margin of error.

[Ryan Stanger]

Right. Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

It's still going to be juicy.

[Ryan Stanger]

Totally. And they've found that people in high. The people that do more so more frequency have more robust results.

[Jason Bateman]

Right. So people that are more better. Yeah, there is like, there's more than.

[Sean Hayes]

So is there something to the idea of like sweating out a sickness? Like let's say, because like I've, I've had like, you know, a sinus infection or a bad cold and like gone into a sauna to try to sweat it out, you know, or like a flu. Is, is that, is it as like prescriptive as that? Is it? Or is it strictly like we're talking long term benefits.

[Ryan Stanger]

So interesting you bring that up because I have seen talk about respiratory disease. So, you know, you name it, you got some kind of respiratory thing going on. They found that people in the sauna, it shortens the duration of their, whatever they've got infection or gut.

[Jason Bateman]

To be fully anecdotal here, I find that if I have a little something in the throat or in the nose or a cough after a couple of days in the sauna, maybe I would recover it anyway.

[Sean Hayes]

Right.

[Jason Bateman]

But the sauna does at least and even in the moment acutely kind of relieve me of it.

[Ryan Stanger]

And if you catch it on the tits and not in the throat or the nose, you know.

[Sean Hayes]

Sure.

[Ryan Stanger]

But you don't want to be like, have the reputation of being a cum

[Jason Bateman]

dodger come in my nose. Nose pies.

[Ryan Stanger]

We don't kink shame here.

[Jason Bateman]

Google nose by Anymore.

[Sean Hayes]

That's why I was asking about cleaning my mine.

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, I like what you did with the frosted glass here. Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, that's it. Yeah. A little splotchy privacy.

[Jason Bateman]

I tried to jerk off in the sun. I almost fainted. It's like the alter. It's like a auto erotic asphyxiation. So sweaty.

[Ryan Stanger]

The ultimate kink. He's a lot of equipment, a lot of real estate.

[Jason Bateman]

Reduction of all cause jizz. 60% reduction in jizz.

[Sean Hayes]

You hear how Gabriel died?

[Jason Bateman]

Let me guess, coming in a sauna. Whoa.

[Ryan Stanger]

It wasn't suicide. So. Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of what we're living in here, you know, at least in this recording location, is in the realm of anecdotal. But I've experienced that too. To where it's like, I definitely feel better. I definitely, if I can drag myself in there and I've got something seem to recover. And then most recently I've seen some research or some studies done out there about it reducing the, the duration of. And I think people that use it get sick, get respiratory disease less.

[Jason Bateman]

I feel like when I'm on a good sauna regimen, I. I do feel over. Here's a small anecdotal thing I've noticed. When it's really hot in la, I'm not as sweaty. Like I'm a little heat adapted from the sauna. I don't get as like overheated easily.

[Ryan Stanger]

And Yeah, I think you build up a tolerance.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

And it feels good. And then when it's like 90 degrees out, I'm like, well, I sat in

[Sean Hayes]

160 today, but there's nothing like, like, like my. One of my favorite things is being in the sauna. And then like you get in the shower and you're still a little like steamy and then you walk into like New York cold.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. You know, that's a contrast therapy.

[Sean Hayes]

I love that you're like. Your eyes go back in your head. I like that. I live for that shit.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. My gym has a little outdoor area and the saunas in the outdoor area. So if I build up enough of a sweat when I come out, I look like a linebacker or a lineman on the, on the sideline. I come out, there's so much steam coming off me. And I train at like one of the gayest, like one of the gayest places I've ever been in my life besides. I mean, it's as gay as a gay bar and it's awesome. But I, I come out and there's just like six dudes lifting weights. And I'm shirtless, like in a Speedo with, like, steam coming off me. I feel like I'm baiting everyone. I look like a freshly served dish.

[Sean Hayes]

Has any of them ever made a move on you?

[Jason Bateman]

No.

[Sean Hayes]

Then you're not bathing. That's in your head.

[Jason Bateman]

No, I get a little eye fucking.

[Ryan Stanger]

You present yourself in a chafing dish and then pull the lid off.

[Jason Bateman]

When they pull the lid off and my legs are behind my head in the Belgian oyster, I have one candle in my ass. L. You don't do that.

[Ryan Stanger]

Make a wish. I mean, don't do that. You owe it to them.

[Jason Bateman]

At that point, I feel like they are ogling me as I'm spread eagle with a candle in my.

[Ryan Stanger]

Can't I just work out?

[Jason Bateman]

Guys? Like, everyone just slowly drifts to another section of the gym. Like, let's go do cardio. I love the sauna and cold plunge combo. That's like a real treat.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, we've been talking about that a lot. Is that something that they.

[Jason Bateman]

We're trying to talk him into building a cold plunge in his yard.

[Ryan Stanger]

I want one. So that's.

[Sean Hayes]

Are you cold plunging?

[Ryan Stanger]

I do, but I don't have. I. I have to go.

[Sean Hayes]

It's not with the frequency.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. Because I have to go somewhere to do it.

[Sean Hayes]

Right.

[Ryan Stanger]

But I. I do want to get one and that's. That's something that's come out recently too. To where they find that the. The benefits are more psychological.

[Jason Bateman]

I. I was saying earlier that more

[Sean Hayes]

Wim Hof than Hoff Win.

[Ryan Stanger]

Who is this show for?

[Jason Bateman]

Half wind will just finish Muppet.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. People just screaming with laughter that, like, do the polar plunges and stuff.

[Sean Hayes]

Hey, man. Entertainment has become niche. So niche.

[Ryan Stanger]

We found our sh.

[Sean Hayes]

Show.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

Huge in Finland.

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[Sean Hayes]

And. And as a personal trainer.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

Do you find that you have a responsibility to. To both your clients and your kid to like stay in shape like that? To show them like, this is my job?

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

I mean, you don't want to feel that pressure.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. I would be a great personal trainer if people were okay with their trainer being fat. You know, like a mechanic's car is the worst.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. Doctor's child.

[Jason Bateman]

Hey, look at the devil.

[Ryan Stanger]

There's not. I mean, I used to work at this big. It's now an equinox, but it's this massive gym in west la. It used to be called Sports Club. And there was this guy in there and basketball courts. Yeah. Got basketball courts. Yeah, Stuff on the roof. Like all kinds of functional on the roof. But there was this guy there because they used to like really drill down on the trainers to sell. It was like this crazy pressure. He had to be a good salesman. And there was this guy there that was ripped, named Rudy, and he had the most clients by far. He worked all day with clients and. And they would all do the same thing. He looked fucking ripped. It was just genetics. And so you'd see him and there'd be like a little old lady. Like there'd be like a super ripped guy. Ramp. Ramp.

[Jason Bateman]

There'd be an ADAPT programming.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. But every. Because he just looked so ripped. And there'd be other people that looked less fit, but they were great trainers. So you just never know. I mean, that's. Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

Well, this is. This is a great segue to. I'm sure some. Listen, some listeners or viewers of this podcast are curious about getting a personal trainer or maybe don't. I know how to. What. What would you look for as a personal trainer yourself? What Would you look for in a good personal trainer?

[Ryan Stanger]

Well, I think.

[Jason Bateman]

Or what makes you a good personal trainer, too?

[Ryan Stanger]

I think certification. So I think it's important maybe to start there. It doesn't always have to be like, somebody can be really experienced and, you know, just kind of know by training a lot of people and been in the game for a long time. But, you know, you can look for certification. You can look for certain degrees and maybe start there. And I think anybody good degree to look for exercise, you know, kinesiology. Yeah. Physiology. Something there some kind of background in it, or if they just have some level of certification and that they've. They keep going with continuing education credits, their ces.

[Jason Bateman]

They're not some guys sitting on some, like, old degree. They're constantly learning the new stuff. And.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, so. But that's not 100%. That's just maybe a good place to start. And then you really. You want to sit down with them and talk about what their plan is. And if they don't ask you what your goals are, you probably want to bail.

[Jason Bateman]

Right. If they, if they just say, what, this is my perspective.

[Sean Hayes]

We're gonna get you ripped.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

It's just like, all right, day one, here we go. Back squats. Let's do it. Number one. And you're just like, I don't want to do that. You know, I just wanted to, you know, get my cardio up or whatever it is. They should be asking you what your goals are. Now, once that's done, they may encourage you to kind of focus on some other areas that they think would be helpful or beneficial to you. But if they're not asking you your goals, it's a bad sign. And they also. They also should assess your baseline level of fitness to see, you know, where to go and how hard to train you.

[Sean Hayes]

What does something like that look like? What does that assessment look like?

[Ryan Stanger]

So what I used to do as a trainer is I would. I would do like this talk test. So I'd get somebody on a treadmill. Treadmill. And I would just, you know, have them on the treadmill. I'd increase the incline, and we would just talk. And so we talk about what we're going to do that day.

[Sean Hayes]

Do they know that you're testing them?

[Ryan Stanger]

I'll tell them. Yeah. It's not any kind of secret. And, you know, just. We're just talking about what they, you know, that's a good place to kind

[Jason Bateman]

of make your temperature rectally without them knowing. Just see the body.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, of course. I didn't think I needed to mention that.

[Jason Bateman]

At least that's what my trainer does. Here's the thing. Thickest thermometer.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, that's a good sign.

[Sean Hayes]

You're also in the back of a veterinarian. Yeah, you're not exactly at the gym.

[Jason Bateman]

I'm in a Temple Grandin hug machine. Large animal Vet is where I go for my diet. Your blood pressure is great if you were a bovine. But it says here on your chart, you're a human. Look at my chart.

[Sean Hayes]

You know, I gotta tell you, the. Your stomach's not great. I thought that I was gonna have to look at two other stomachs. Yeah, but it's even worse.

[Jason Bateman]

But your milk production's through the roof. Stop tugging on that, Utter. You only have one working udder.

[Ryan Stanger]

Are you willing to help us increase the buffalo population? Sure. But. Yeah. So you do this talk test, and then you can kind of get a good, like, baseline level of their cardiovascular fitness. And then I'll do a really simple workout where we're just doing some kind of push, pull, and a squat. Squat. And then so you can see their functional flexibility. So you know how much flexion they have in their ankles to do a squat. You know what kind of shoulder health they have doing these push and pull exercises. And then you can see some, you know, some issues that they may have with flexibility or some, you know, certain weaknesses that pop up. It's usually it. It would usually be really easy. I would comp them that session. And then, you know.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, my trainer, Addie did the first one free as well. And it's kind of like a good way to. Because then it's like. Like, no pressure on you. Like.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. And it's. It's a good sign if they're doing that, because then you can figure out each other's chemistry and if it doesn't feel like a good fit or I know another trainer that I think might be better for them then that recommend them.

[Sean Hayes]

And is there, like a trainer break room in la? Like. Like shrinking? Like, where all the therapists go to talk.

[Ryan Stanger]

Like, Ford's up in that. I used to see him at this gym I worked called Pro Gym Gym. Yeah. Yeah. He was getting in shape for Crystal Skull Ripped dude.

[Sean Hayes]

Really?

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, he does pop his top in it in Crystal.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, he does.

[Jason Bateman]

No, he does in Dial a Destiny, right?

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, he was.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, he looked 70 something. Take his shirt off. Good for him.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

And. Yeah, but I saw him in the

[Sean Hayes]

Sensory City parking lot lost on.

[Jason Bateman]

In a plane. Kalista trying to take Off.

[Sean Hayes]

He was in the basement. I was like, breaker, breaker, Harrison, you got to get up to the top thing. He's like, I'm making my move.

[Ryan Stanger]

She offered him a vape and it like popey, you know?

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. No, his car reeked like weed. He was just good doing donuts on the plane.

[Ryan Stanger]

The land.

[Sean Hayes]

Sir, you're in a Tesla, buddy.

[Ryan Stanger]

Cheech and Chong were in there.

[Jason Bateman]

Like, what the.

[Sean Hayes]

Cheech Marin?

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, the something you said about assessing their mobility. This is something I saw a personal trainer do one time that broke my mind. I watched a personal trainer hold their client, older client's hands to lower them onto an incline incline bench where then they did like light dumbbell flies. And in my head I said, the trainer should be working so that this person can get on and off the bench by the inner pec development is less important than the ambulatory skill to get up and down off the bench,

[Ryan Stanger]

standing up and sitting down.

[Jason Bateman]

No, no, no, we got it towards like, no, get them over there. Get them doing this number one peck fly.

[Sean Hayes]

I always found the work, like working with a trainer is great once you get past that thing. Like, the worst part of a trainer to me was always if I would go to a. A gym, you know, inevitably someone in the staff shirt would walk by and be like, you know, you're doing that wrong.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

Right. Which is like the worst interaction.

[Jason Bateman]

I love talking to guys with tucked in polos.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

But it's like, it's just the worst interaction you, you can ever have because you're like, get, get away from me. Like, I don't want to. I'm just trying to work out, you know, Like, I don't. It's. It's. I always akin it's like to the feeling of like the trainers always feel like when you go to a strip club and the dancers are walking around looking to see who, who, who's there for a dance and you're. You, you're like looking for attention in that case. But it's the same song and dance. Like, you know what I mean?

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. You're. No matter what you're doing, you're. Or if you refuse, you're made to feel like an. Yeah, but I mean, this gym, I mean these corporate gyms where they're just trying to sell. It's like. And if you're on the road or something, you're like, I just want to do a quick workout.

[Sean Hayes]

Exactly. Yeah. That's why I belong here.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. Let me introduce you to Todd. He's a drinking fountain Consultant. Hey, what's up, man? Let's go ahead and show you the drinking.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. And you're like. You're like, buddy, I'll never be in the Equinox in Denver ever again.

[Ryan Stanger]

That's very cool. But number two, let me show you the locker consultant.

[Sean Hayes]

Then you'll need to know where the pool is. Yeah, I'll figure it out.

[Ryan Stanger]

We're going to need your social.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so that's always, I think, for a lot of people. What? Trainers. What? Like, the fear of a trainer is, you know, I mean.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, totally. And I tell you, man, working at this sports club, you know, I was like in my 20s, and you're early 20s and you're dealing with these huge numbers. So you get somebody and they're kind of interested in training, and then you have to sell them a 20 package and it's like $7,000 and you're just like. I mean, I feel like such a.

[Sean Hayes]

Because, you know, they're not Good. It's like January 3rd.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

And you're like, you know, you're not going to get through that.

[Jason Bateman]

Like, might as well get like some runoff money.

[Ryan Stanger]

Hands shaking as I give them the. Yeah. Or, you know, they don't have the money and you're really trying to sell them on it.

[Sean Hayes]

It's kind of like a stripper.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

In that way.

[Ryan Stanger]

We had a champagne.

[Jason Bateman]

We have an ATM machine. I can take you to champagne.

[Ryan Stanger]

Protein shake room.

[Jason Bateman]

Do a full release workout. But yeah, I mean, there's no. In the spin room.

[Ryan Stanger]

Well, you mentioned the shrinking break room. But at these big clubs, I mean, you know, there's a little community of trainers and especially the ones with a lot of trainers. At least anecdotally in my experience, everybody's each other, the membership people. And you know,

[Jason Bateman]

like, I got that big titty client coming in.

[Sean Hayes]

I mean, and it's always married suburban moms. Right?

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, it really is.

[Sean Hayes]

Right. It's that. What. Because that's another myth of personal trainers that we could like, talk about today. Like, who are they? Always the suburban mom. They're training.

[Ryan Stanger]

Oh. I mean, there's definitely flirting. There's defin.

[Sean Hayes]

There's like always flirting. Right. There's always like a certain, like sexual

[Ryan Stanger]

tension, strange stretching type stuff that does exist, but I don't know about them taking. Taking it to the next level.

[Sean Hayes]

This is always like the myth of a trainer.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, it's possible, but it's a lot of. It's trainers with each. With each other, Right? Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

Like fit People just hanging around all the time. Yeah. Ryan, what makes a good client?

[Sean Hayes]

Oh.

[Ryan Stanger]

Oh.

[Jason Bateman]

So how can we, if. How can listeners, if they wanted to be a client, be a good client?

[Sean Hayes]

And you've. And you've trained some of the biggest.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

Do you sign any NDAs? Can we ask names and stuff?

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

I mean, yeah. So I. So I've trained some actors. One professional athlete trained. I say I maybe met with them

[Jason Bateman]

like once or twice, a couple of sessions. Not like. But your long term clients have always been.

[Ryan Stanger]

Well, that's where I made the shift because I found that very wealthy people that had more normal jobs, best clients. Because you know this.

[Jason Bateman]

Both, Both.

[Ryan Stanger]

Both of you guys know this. You can get fast and furious with a trainer and then you're to going, gone. You know, you're off shooting something.

[Jason Bateman]

I'm going to Vancouver for nine months to do Hunger Games, whatever.

[Ryan Stanger]

So you get in shape for, you know, a couple of months, you get in great shape and then you're gone. And so I, you know, had some folks like this and I was like the pig with the straw house. And life was like the wolf.

[Jason Bateman]

Okay, all right. You know, did he go to the market or did his house get blown down?

[Sean Hayes]

Three of those kids.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, there was three. But the smart one was the one I became the Brick House guy. But at first I was a little

[Jason Bateman]

sly in the family. Wait, Brick James sings Brick House?

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

What? Is there any other analogy we could go with?

[Ryan Stanger]

Did I do the three pigs one?

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, pretty much the one we landed

[Jason Bateman]

on and we edited out the first three times you did the three pigs.

[Ryan Stanger]

Leave this one in. This one will drive it home. I never.

[Sean Hayes]

The hyperbolic chamber. Do anything for your brain?

[Ryan Stanger]

No, not for mine. It should. But for mine, it did nothing.

[Jason Bateman]

It's a lost cause.

[Ryan Stanger]

Before I was telling the Little Red Riding Hood wolf. Yeah, I think it's the same guy. Smart. But yeah. So I would train, you know, people that had these inconsistent schedules and then you'd, you know, get used to that income and then they're gone. But people that were, you know, had the same schedule for the most part. Part, if I could show up every day, people in the morning that train in the morning always better because makes your.

[Jason Bateman]

It makes you frees up your day as an actor and that.

[Ryan Stanger]

But also they will show up more if you train somebody in the evening. They just, by then they're like, I'm not doing it.

[Sean Hayes]

Like, you get a lot more cancellations.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, way more cancellations.

[Jason Bateman]

And then I, I know this as Being your friend for a long time, you would train these rich people who had gyms in their houses.

[Ryan Stanger]

Oh, and I did home gym design. Like I would. It was like being a personal stylist with gyms.

[Jason Bateman]

The dream, picking stuff out. I rack a latp down machines.

[Sean Hayes]

I really like to talk to you about. I really want to make a nice gym. Oh yeah, you could help me do that.

[Ryan Stanger]

Absolutely.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, that'd be great.

[Ryan Stanger]

I'm down. But yeah. I trained these guys that were hundred, hundred millionaires, maybe billionaire. To give you an idea, I introduced two guys together that I was training and one of them had a charity going on and the guy that one of the guy, the guy that I introduced him to donated a million dollars to his charity.

[Jason Bateman]

On. Upon meeting him, upon meeting one sentence,

[Ryan Stanger]

it's like the ball. Like, okay, what do you need?

[Jason Bateman]

That's like me pulling out of 10.

[Sean Hayes]

But that guy's like clearly hiding money.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You couldn't tell by his cars and house, but yeah, that's why it's hidden. Yeah, yeah. So crazy money. And then it'd be really like wild because it's so much money that they didn't even know they had it. So I trained this guy for years and he had a woman that worked in his house and she had a little kid and we were watching the kid kind of grow up.

[Jason Bateman]

Up.

[Ryan Stanger]

And so I, she'd bring her kids sometimes. A little kid grown up. And I said, you know, you should pay for her kids school. And he was like, oh yeah, yeah. And I'm like, yeah, she, you know, is about to start school. Like why don't you get her into a good private school and do it all the way through. And he's like, it's a great idea. So he did it. He's like, if you ever think of other stuff like that, that's what he said.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. And I'm like, okay.

[Ryan Stanger]

Like, didn't even know.

[Sean Hayes]

You're like, okay.

[Jason Bateman]

You're like, I have a kid too.

[Sean Hayes]

You're like, there's this dude Rock. You should give him a million dollars.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, well he needs a Rivian going

[Jason Bateman]

to someone's house to train them. That is like, you know, they're going to be there.

[Sean Hayes]

It's intimate. It's also intimate. You're in their house, you're seeing, you're

[Jason Bateman]

like, you know the, the idea of building a, customizing a home gym. I would play a video game that was like gym tycoon. Like, like the idea of like, ooh, put a sauna and A plunge here. Like that?

[Ryan Stanger]

Totally. You put the cheat code in for unlimited budget. Yeah, like I did. Right. Next.

[Sean Hayes]

So we can'. For someone else.

[Ryan Stanger]

Makes it more fun and challenging for me.

[Sean Hayes]

You don't sound like you can work in a box.

[Ryan Stanger]

The difficulty level, two hyperbaric chambers.

[Jason Bateman]

Who's the other one for these? I come by or your pets?

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. So we put a, like, in his newest house, we put a crazy cold plunge in that's right by his Jacuzzi and pool. And it's, it's, you know, covered and it's constantly at about 40 degrees and just stays that way.

[Jason Bateman]

And it's.

[Ryan Stanger]

He's super tall, so it goes all the way down. Down. It's like the center of the earth.

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, he's really tall. Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

I mean, who is this? Paul Gasol?

[Ryan Stanger]

He's so tall. It's down to like, Brendan Fraser. Bumblebee level. Who's this show for?

[Jason Bateman]

And then. Not me.

[Sean Hayes]

I didn't get that.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, fine. Somebody out there did and they won't be.

[Jason Bateman]

And the rest of the people are complaining on the Reddit.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, the rest of people are gonna

[Sean Hayes]

have a Red Reddit. You think our fans are going to get it together and have a Reddit? You can't even get, like, a beer night together.

[Ryan Stanger]

We did a full sauna in there, all that.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, that's what I want to do.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

Because I, I, I, I, I want, I, I just want a dedicated space. I feel like right now we moved into this awesome house, and it's in New York City, so we don't have a ton of space, but we just, like, use the basement as that's where everything goes and including, like the peloton, the weights, and the sauna, you know, and it's like mishmash.

[Jason Bateman]

Including a couch and a tv, video games for kids.

[Sean Hayes]

It's like, I need a space that's like, you know, I.

[Ryan Stanger]

You're more likely to go in there if you do.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, exactly. That's why I want, I want to, I want to do it right, but I don't have any money.

[Ryan Stanger]

That's. I mean, there's ways you can say floor is really important in there. And you can buy these things.

[Sean Hayes]

Like the rubber ones.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

That, that'll snap together and you can kind of adjust them to fit any space. They're. They're prefab.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

I want, like, I want my whole thing to be prefab.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

But not bad. But not pre. Bad.

[Jason Bateman]

I think that's prefontaine.

[Sean Hayes]

No, no. No, no, no, no.

[Jason Bateman]

Not without limits. I need limits.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

I think Pre bad was Thriller.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

I don't want it to be dangerous.

[Ryan Stanger]

That's what it is now, let's be honest.

[Sean Hayes]

And it is definitely depending on you who you talk to. His story.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

I mean, that's good because Chris Tucker's involved.

[Sean Hayes]

I think so is Macaulay Culkin.

[Jason Bateman]

I remember the time.

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[Jason Bateman]

you don't work out at home though. You're still a gym, right? Rat?

[Ryan Stanger]

No, I have. I have peloton. I love having that.

[Sean Hayes]

You. So you do a peloton.

[Ryan Stanger]

Do a peloton.

[Sean Hayes]

And what's your peloton go to? Length of class, Hitting hills. Are you. Are you going straight sweat? Are you doing arms? What are you doing on the peloton?

[Ryan Stanger]

I do. So at first I was doing a lot of the classes which I do like and I have an instructor that I like. But now one of the things I'm doing currently to stay alive is the Norwegian 4x4 hit protocol.

[Jason Bateman]

And that's oh man, this phrase. I love just the phrase of this.

[Ryan Stanger]

It sounds really fancy Norwegian.

[Sean Hayes]

You think?

[Ryan Stanger]

Say that's. Yeah, cuz I think they interesting you're

[Sean Hayes]

all in that region.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

Finish like. All right, so what is this? Cuz I'll try doing that.

[Ryan Stanger]

So this one is. What it is is a. It's high intensity interval training. But the. Where it differs from Tabata and some of the other stuff that folks will do is that it's extended efforts. So Tabata is 20 on, 10 off. 20 on, 10 off. Yeah, yeah. Or some of the other ones are minute on, you know, minute hard, 30 seconds off. Or I. There's like the. This eight program. But this one is you start with the 10 minute warmup and then you go four minutes 85 plus percent of your maximum intensity level. And then you do three minute recovery and then four minutes again, three minute recovery all the way out to four and then a five minute cool down.

[Jason Bateman]

So it takes four sets of four minutes with three minute downtime.

[Sean Hayes]

And what's the total class? 40, 45.

[Ryan Stanger]

It's about 40 minutes.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh wow.

[Ryan Stanger]

And it's. So I just do it on my own. I just use the.

[Sean Hayes]

You just. You just use. So you're just listening to your own music on it like a regular exercise bike?

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, so I just use like the. You know, there's experience. Whatever you want to do. Like choose your experience.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

So in Peloton I found the interface is really easy and nice. Yeah. And it. I broadcast my heart rate from a wrist like a armband heart rate monitor on there. And I use that to assess my 85 effort. 85 effort, you know the number of

[Jason Bateman]

heart rate you're aiming for?

[Ryan Stanger]

Yes. And they. Peloton has a. A program that you can use to get your maximum heart rate. So it goes. It becomes a little bit more accurate than just using A lot of things will be like a number minus your

[Jason Bateman]

age 20, minus 42 or whatever.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, yeah. And that might get you close to the range. But this is you go up as hard as you can while monitoring your heart rate rate, you know, through a couple different levels and then they'll give you a number. And so because people will tell you RPE or rate of perceived exertion is good for using this, but I don't always trust that for myself. I like a little bit more of a.

[Jason Bateman]

Of the science of the world.

[Sean Hayes]

What if you don't like to think about anything while you exercise except like, you know, you want to minimize. What if you. What if you Want to minimize the amount of like pinpoint number going across the screen. How would you prescribe something like that?

[Jason Bateman]

That.

[Ryan Stanger]

So I'm very similar to you in that respect. I'm assuming you're talking about yourself for a friend.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, no, no, for me. Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

He's trying to get me to exercise more.

[Sean Hayes]

I can't say it.

[Ryan Stanger]

My friend Ron in West Rana, he. So I'm like that and so I don't like too much. I'm not going to write it down in a book. I'm not going to get somebody in a lab coat involved. Okay. So. So I do this one and after the first couple of times it's, it's really easy.

[Jason Bateman]

I found like once you know the mechanics of what you got to do,

[Ryan Stanger]

I found it's even easier than a class.

[Sean Hayes]

Really?

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, because it's just, it's close to the same every time, you know, like

[Jason Bateman]

you're, you don't have to like let you know exactly, you know exactly.

[Ryan Stanger]

And the number breakdowns are really easy. So pretty soon you're like, okay, it's, you know, it's been 10 minutes, we go four and then it's 17. It just like is super easy because they've looked at this and they've done it in where they're pulling, doing liquid biopsies and they found that this, doing it in this range reduces circulating tumor cells. So let's say you're concerned about that or you're just somebody that you know, doesn't want them to ever pop up in your body.

[Jason Bateman]

Right.

[Ryan Stanger]

You can throw this in once a week. And to keep them at bay, the sheer force that increases with your blood flow though kills them of a 4x4. Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

Of just having your heart pumping that fast for that long just wipes out some bad stuff.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yes. And they don't see it in the shorter duration. You have to get in the extended effort.

[Sean Hayes]

You got to get into. I got to get into extended effort.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. And you can do it once a week or once every two weeks, something like that.

[Jason Bateman]

Just to shake it up what you're

[Sean Hayes]

doing, plug it into your res.

[Ryan Stanger]

It also increases your brain derived neurotropic factor or blood drive neurotropic factor. Dr. You can tell because I don't know which of the two not to maybe press any further with questions, but it crosses the blood brain barrier. So it does, you know, it increases like you know, what your brain is able to do and memory and all that kind of stuff. So there's a lot of positive benefit that they've actually been able to study

[Sean Hayes]

and that's not exercise in general. That is specifically from this type of maximum.

[Jason Bateman]

Exercise in general does do this to a degree.

[Sean Hayes]

Degree. But this is maximum. Like you're not getting this from lifting weights.

[Ryan Stanger]

No.

[Sean Hayes]

Doing sit ups.

[Ryan Stanger]

No. Oh yeah. Maybe from like a very light walk. No, no. You've got to do this. You've got to do this specifically. At least this is what they've to tested and been able to find.

[Jason Bateman]

And you could do this on a treadmill or on an erg too if you can figure that out.

[Ryan Stanger]

You could. It's harder to, you know, monitor where you're at and it's because I've tried it on all kinds of different cardio equipment and it's. To get into that range is it's tough for like you have to be really good on an erg to get there.

[Sean Hayes]

Right. And so do you have to be pushing the person on the swing or do you need me? Can you be on it?

[Ryan Stanger]

You can be on it.

[Jason Bateman]

Depends. All depends on your heart rate. That's me getting read. One Mississippi too.

[Sean Hayes]

So in, in, in in your again, like opinion prescriptively. This is not. This is not in any way what to do or whatnot.

[Ryan Stanger]

Like watch as these people flood in and tell me all the things I've done.

[Sean Hayes]

No, but we're not even going to have one of those. Truthfully, like we don't care. Like we. I would prefer it if there was no discourse about.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, we're open minded and curious and want to hear from everyone and we're gonna cherry pick what works for us and what.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, I don't want that. Oh my God. I know my headphones across the room or blew it.

[Jason Bateman]

As a Norwegian, I can say he's wrong.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

I am a chef and there are finish chefs.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, there are finished chefs all over. You can just understand us.

[Ryan Stanger]

Finnish chef here. I do make meatballs.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, okay.

[Ryan Stanger]

But you got us.

[Jason Bateman]

I don't use a sauna and I'm dying.

[Ryan Stanger]

Thanks.

[Sean Hayes]

This is a Finnish chef too. Oh, you woken it in. I burned you a dirty fruity.

[Ryan Stanger]

You found it. I was like, what can we do?

[Jason Bateman]

And that's. This is making me think. By the way, once the show is up and running. Devin, we should have a call in episode.

[Sean Hayes]

Yes.

[Ryan Stanger]

Oh, you got it.

[Sean Hayes]

Let's do a call in episode.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

No less for baby.

[Jason Bateman]

We just get 12 Baba Buoys in a row and it is Gary calling.

[Ryan Stanger]

Hello, hello, hello, hello.

[Sean Hayes]

He calls nine times.

[Jason Bateman]

Talking to three Howard heads here.

[Sean Hayes]

The greatest so what I was going to ask was like, if you were to talk to a client, you were to prescribe them like a week week and be like, this is, this is how I think you should maximize your week's worth of health. Would you break it down to something like, you know, three days of cardio weightlifting, bike, like, get like. Or is it strictly to you, like there is this prescriptive exercise that you need to be doing every day that is going to keep you alive?

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. I mean. Yeah. So if it's like, what's the minimum? Like you should at least be doing this.

[Sean Hayes]

Sure. Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. So I would say resistance training. Which.

[Sean Hayes]

Which means what? Because a lot of people hear that and they don't know what that means.

[Ryan Stanger]

Sure. So it would be a push, a pull and a squat. So you want to do hormonally intelligent exercises to get the most out of them.

[Sean Hayes]

So like a, for layman it would be like a push up, a crunch or a, or a, or a, or a curl or a pull up or a pull up. And what was the. A squat and a squat.

[Ryan Stanger]

I, I would do, I wouldn't do put. I would do with weights.

[Sean Hayes]

Okay.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

So I would do specifically more than calisthenics. The resistance training would be with weight loaded.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

So what would, what would a push pull on a squat look like to you?

[Ryan Stanger]

So that would be like a chest press or a military press. Okay.

[Jason Bateman]

A row or a pull up or something.

[Ryan Stanger]

Well, that would be for pull.

[Sean Hayes]

Right, Right. Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

And then for squat it could be. You could do like an angled leg press, you could do a back squat, you could do a front squat, you could do some kind of lunges. And this is, you know, we're getting into longevity talk here. There's all this talk around thigh circumference.

[Sean Hayes]

Right.

[Jason Bateman]

Quadricep muscle development like directly correlates with.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. And I think that is more speaking to maintaining muscle muscle mass because there's.

[Sean Hayes]

And not just what I'm into too.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. Thick thighs save lives. Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

It's not just what I like.

[Jason Bateman]

It's not just how I.

[Sean Hayes]

Because I wrote that article, I got to tell you, I did not look into any of it.

[Jason Bateman]

I can't believe we got picked up in the scientific journal.

[Sean Hayes]

Me either. Cuz my stats were guesses.

[Jason Bateman]

I took out all the crushing my head parts though.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

This. Yeah. Guy into big asses saves lives. Do we have to do the walking in there?

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

So I think a lot of that is talking about staving off sarcopenia, which is Something that sets in when you hit a certain age where you just start to, like, muscle just goes.

[Jason Bateman]

Muscle atrophy.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, Your muscle just starts to atrophy, and then it goes up more and more. As you age, you start losing more and more muscle, and a lot of it goes from the legs. And that's the most important part for overall health, like with blood flow. And then also if you. For falling. False. Because there's countless stories of people that have a relative that's in good health. They fall, they go to the hospital and they die.

[Sean Hayes]

They break their hip, and then they're dead.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, yeah. And it's just like it all started with that. And so if you think about, you know, maintaining muscle strength in your legs, you're going to be able to move around, you know, protect yourself from falling over.

[Jason Bateman]

And. And there is some truth to resistance training. Helping with bone density as well, too.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. So bone density, you need that, like, adaptive, you know, change at adaptive stress. Change that happens when you're. And a lot of it can be from, you know, jumping, too. Like, if you're able to kind of jump into your old age, that kind of.

[Jason Bateman]

That's a good sign.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

You know, just jumping jacks, super squats.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

In jumping, rope, box jumps, all that stuff. Skipping.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. All that kind of functional stuff helps with bone density. So that's something to like, factoring in. And then we talked about cardiovascular training. So I would do something that elevates your heart rate. You know, if you can do the kind of extended effort stuff that we're talking about, it might not be as crucial as just showing up to do something that at least challenges.

[Sean Hayes]

Spin class.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, great. Spin class. Tabata exercise. Something where your heart's thumping because that's something we stop doing as we get older. Like, you know, your kids run around, around, you go to the beach, you pick them up, you can feel their heart thumping. But I mean, I don't know all about, like, when was the last time

[Jason Bateman]

your heart was jacked, like, without exercise?

[Sean Hayes]

I had to go to the bathroom and walk up those stairs before.

[Jason Bateman]

Just when I was going to the bathroom this morning, the was coming out, maybe sideways, my heart was pounding.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. So I mean, if you're.

[Sean Hayes]

If you out a jackhammer shark,

[Ryan Stanger]

that's

[Jason Bateman]

where you put it down, you pile driver's shark.

[Ryan Stanger]

So I would say that to the client. If they're in a recording studio and they have diarrhea, get up those stairs. I mean, that's.

[Jason Bateman]

Dude, I should move my bathroom upstairs because then I would at least get like eight flights in every morning sprint.

[Sean Hayes]

So. Okay, so on top of these exercise, these exercise tips, what's your, what's your nutritional intake? Like what are you doing? Supplement and food wise and dietary.

[Ryan Stanger]

So I think it's important to have a, a varied diet that it consists of lean protein. Protein. It's nothing exciting here. Lean protein, vegetables. Pay attention to your dietary fiber.

[Sean Hayes]

What does that mean?

[Ryan Stanger]

So that's like taking in vegetables, the food that has a high amount of dietary fiberus.

[Jason Bateman]

Veggies.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. That's great.

[Sean Hayes]

Christopher's veggies are a big topic conversation on this show.

[Jason Bateman]

It's one of the first words we learned and so we've been using dropping.

[Ryan Stanger]

It's a great word. It's what their crabs are.

[Sean Hayes]

Right?

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

I still can't say it right.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

I steer clear. Cruciferous crucifix kiss.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, we got that punchiest pilot.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. Broccoli, cauliflower, all that kind of. So I think all of that stuff in a variety and then fruits and vegetables and you get the most bang for your buck with berries, blackberries, blueberries.

[Sean Hayes]

Blueberries are like big antioxidant.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

Thing. So like how many blueberries you eat in a day?

[Ryan Stanger]

I think you can go two cups.

[Sean Hayes]

Two cups?

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. That's a lot.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, I know.

[Jason Bateman]

But they're nutrient dense and don't your gci up like crazy.

[Ryan Stanger]

They're, they're lighter on the sugar and. Yeah. But all kinds of berries are great.

[Sean Hayes]

What about dried strawberries?

[Ryan Stanger]

I think dried. You know, there's something that happens that I think because you're getting more in, you're getting a little bit more sugar.

[Sean Hayes]

Right.

[Ryan Stanger]

And you might lose some of the nutritional benefits. Nutritional benefits.

[Sean Hayes]

So it's just regular strawberries?

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, Regular or frozen. Frozen blend.

[Jason Bateman]

Frozen ones.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. Or just eat them as a nice little treat. Trick yourself into like it's.

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, it's a little tiny ice cream cone. Yum yum. My teeth are killing me. My brain hurts and my teeth hurt, so.

[Ryan Stanger]

And I think paying attention to your dietary fiber, like knowing how much you're getting in, I can't give you a number specifically at best, but knowing what yours is and getting that is very important. Fish oils coming back into discussion again. I think if you're not eating a lot of fish that's wild caught and low, low in heavy metals, you know, salmon is good for that.

[Sean Hayes]

What about a sugar fish box?

[Ryan Stanger]

I think that's crazy. I know.

[Sean Hayes]

What is asking for the same friend,

[Jason Bateman]

the sushi freak that you are. Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

Let's say you've had a giant sugar fish box three nights in a row.

[Jason Bateman]

The Nozumi. Trust me.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. Don't think to go. Yeah. Do you think. How do you think that's affecting me?

[Ryan Stanger]

I think it's not bad.

[Sean Hayes]

Right?

[Ryan Stanger]

Positive. You know, from a reputation standpoint. Hell, yeah. This guy eats tons of sugar fish.

[Jason Bateman]

Okay.

[Ryan Stanger]

So. Yeah. Getting a lot of fish in there. But, you know, paying attention to what's, you know, safe from a metal standpoint. Mercury, that kind of stuff. And then they're talking, you know, a lot of this I'm pulling from the same longevity experts that a lot of people are.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

Rhonda Patrick from Found My Fitness. So I just saw her where she gets her fish oil oil, and it's this company called Metagenics. And you. I. The spoonful is the best, so you got to take it in, which is

[Sean Hayes]

you're taking a spoonful of fish oil a day.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. If not. If not more. Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

Wow. Does it smell like.

[Ryan Stanger]

I mean, it'll. You got to be careful with what you drink after that, because I use, like, a glass bottle. And then they'll be. Throughout the day. I'm like.

[Jason Bateman]

Because it's like, get stuck on the rim of the bottle.

[Ryan Stanger]

I'm passing it. It's just like, wow, the fuck is this? So that. And then also.

[Jason Bateman]

Sorry. In college, I remember I was hoping

[Sean Hayes]

we were gonna go right by this, but here we go.

[Jason Bateman]

I was really hungover one day and needed my friend's Advil, and I reached into my roommate's Advil and took a punch, and he's like, hey, man, did you finger a girl last night? Cause my Advil bottle smells like pussy. And I was like, oh, my God. So similar to that.

[Sean Hayes]

I thought we were gonna blow right past that.

[Ryan Stanger]

It's okay.

[Jason Bateman]

We can always take it out. But we might as well throw it on.

[Sean Hayes]

I keep it on. Throw it on the Barbie.

[Ryan Stanger]

Fucking around with a girl and her. Oh, we're.

[Sean Hayes]

I guess we're all doing this now.

[Ryan Stanger]

Her smelled like Advil.

[Sean Hayes]

I.

[Jason Bateman]

My headache went away after she sat on my face.

[Ryan Stanger]

Sore shoulder. Like, can you come over?

[Sean Hayes]

I finally know what it feels like to be Billy Bush.

[Ryan Stanger]

Just go with it. You'll be fine. Extra will take you back.

[Sean Hayes]

This don't hurt me at all.

[Jason Bateman]

Grab by the Advil. That's the kind of thing you could do.

[Ryan Stanger]

Everybody looked at Melania different, like, can I? Can I. So that. That also brings up something else that's important, is. I think it's Good with supplements to look for a third party lab verification because you don't know what you're getting. And the supplement industry is nuts.

[Jason Bateman]

Not covered by F. Famously not covered by the fda.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

And so there.

[Jason Bateman]

Which I also think by the time this episode airs. Has been dismissed.

[Sean Hayes]

There will be no.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. What is that gonzo. So if you can get. If you can research your stuff and make sure that you gotta be careful with saying research. You're do your own research. But in the supplement world, look it up. A lot of them. It's a big selling point for them that they're lab verified.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

I think.

[Sean Hayes]

And you want to see that on the label.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. Or if they don't and you find that they are actually that's. That's a good. Because you're taking this stuff in concentration and they're promising that it does certain things. And so it's not. You don't always want to look for the best value there because people can around with you.

[Sean Hayes]

Right.

[Ryan Stanger]

And I. Sorry. I'm like.

[Jason Bateman]

Keep going.

[Ryan Stanger]

Just the last thing. When we're talking about these, these kind of gurus and these health experts that are. Are getting a lot of attention right now. It's kind of. It's. I think that's the thing right now. It's gone away from pop science, which was all really fun. We'd have these kind of pop science people come out now. It's these pop health experts. So something will happen to where they, they, they. And I'm. These people that we mentioned earlier may not be in this category, but they'll. They'll get tons of traction because they, they present something that's really exciting. So all of us will look at it. It's really exciting. It's backed up. You share it to everybody. It's fun to read. Like, holy. I can just do these three things and this will happen. Or, or I can challenge myself to do this and I'll get this benefit. So these people get a lot of notoriety from that and they may start shows and all this shit will happen for them. And then they realize I gotta feed the machine and so maybe they don't have anything else. And so then they start saying like, fuck, I'll do stuff that's not as good. Maybe. But I still. People are expecting I'll do stuff that

[Jason Bateman]

I can get paid for.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. Well then definitely that happens eventually. But I'll start doing things that are a little more questionable in the science because people are expecting this from me. And I've got a podcast and you know, I'm out there in the world, and so then they're not as good as what they used to be. And then, like, Gabrius was saying, they'll start, you know, shelling for magic mind or whatever.

[Jason Bateman]

And promo code, staying alive to get your magic mind.

[Sean Hayes]

Well, for you guys, do a cautionary tale. That's what happened to Hawk Tua. It's a cautionary tale. Haku. Don't get invested in any kind of coin.

[Jason Bateman]

Imagine we have a health and wellness podcast with our own meme coin, and we are. I just immediately arrested right away for,

[Sean Hayes]

like, shorting the entire market. All of a sudden, there's a movie starring Pete Davidson about us.

[Ryan Stanger]

My question is, why didn't she get involved with some kind of hydration thing?

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, she should be.

[Ryan Stanger]

Lube and hydration. That should be. It would have been off to the races.

[Jason Bateman]

Totally 23 and me just hawk to her in the jar and send your sp.

[Sean Hayes]

It could have been anything. Like, there have been a commercial on the super bowl this year where she's, like, drinking Bud Light, and then she's like, hawk two. You know, like, she blew it, man, with that dogecoin.

[Ryan Stanger]

A hamster feeder.

[Sean Hayes]

You know, like the little anything.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

A hose.

[Jason Bateman]

I would have bought the hawk to a hose.

[Ryan Stanger]

People that, like, if you make it actually good, but then also it's a joke gift.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. From Spencer's.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

When you give it to someone, it's actually a good host. Thank you.

[Sean Hayes]

I was going to get the hawk to a kit for my Mazda.

[Jason Bateman]

It's a spoiler that shoots alive at.

[Sean Hayes]

And then when you turn. When you rev that

[Jason Bateman]

your windshield wiper

[Sean Hayes]

fluid

[Jason Bateman]

and sprays one hit of blue

[Sean Hayes]

spit on that thing, and then a little arm with, like, a tissue comes and tries to make it better.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

You get the towel wipers.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. Pookie could have done the wipers.

[Jason Bateman]

Calling out Pookie, her mysterious boyfriend that was, like, revealed in episode. Episode 8. Then she has not put out an episode as of now.

[Sean Hayes]

You guys listen to her podcast every.

[Jason Bateman]

It's the only podcast. I'm just. I just listened to an investigative series about her, so I know too much.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, she. I just.

[Jason Bateman]

Jamie Loftus's 16th minute was awesome.

[Ryan Stanger]

I just know from the original viral video where she's like, I love you forever, Pookie.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, I thought she was talking about her dog.

[Jason Bateman]

She might be.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

You got a hawk too on that,

[Sean Hayes]

Pookie, if you're watching this hot 2

[Jason Bateman]

on that lipstick, I'll be home to

[Sean Hayes]

pop 2 on it. Lipstick.

[Ryan Stanger]

I.

[Sean Hayes]

The dog's putting peanut butter

[Jason Bateman]

to make her spit to make her do it. You want to get the peanut butter, dog butter?

[Sean Hayes]

I can't say no to you, Pooky.

[Jason Bateman]

Hey, Pooky.

[Sean Hayes]

Pooky. How'd you get a peanut butter again?

[Jason Bateman]

How'd you get your genitals in that peanut butter butter jar, too? On that thing before.

[Sean Hayes]

Before she comes home. Pookie's just like, dog humping the peanut butter.

[Ryan Stanger]

I wish my dog was that smart.

[Jason Bateman]

My dog can open jars, but then he'll eat the peanut butter rather than putting on his balls like a real dog.

[Sean Hayes]

And my dog, my dog loves the Dana Carvey David Spade podcast.

[Ryan Stanger]

Which one?

[Sean Hayes]

Keep saying fly on the wall wall. Talking about the Theo Von episode super Fly. He's like, next week's gonna be really special. John Loveitz is on

[Jason Bateman]

Stanger. Thank you so much for coming on, staying live.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. And giving us a little bit of, like. It's just always nice to talk to a personal trainer who gives you, like, the real, real about what they do.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

You know, because it's like, so often the most intimidating thing is. Is a personal trainer that makes it seem unattainable. You know, it's like a psychologist that's like, you'll never be cured, and you'll just come be coming to me forever. And I think that's what people are scared of in a lot of ways.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. I mean, I can close out with, the most important thing is showing up. And so if that means doing something easy that you love, then do that. Right. The people that win in the end are the ones that show up. And we could all do a Sergeant Slaughter routine or a Wahlberg routine that lasts for two days, and then by January 3rd, you're done.

[Sean Hayes]

Right.

[Ryan Stanger]

You. You lost that. So if you don't feel like going to the gym, but you like doing biceps and it's leg day, fucking get your ass in there and do biceps again. Who gives a fuck as long as you show up?

[Jason Bateman]

You're the one who. Who really ingrained in my head because I get stuck in this thing. And you said, perfect is the enemy of good. And you've also said just. Just do anything.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

Anything is better than nothing. You know, I can't get 10,000 steps, but guess what? 3,000 steps is still better than zero steps.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah, it's. And 50 step. I mean, whatever it is, if you're doing nothing, that's. You've lost. So just do the easiest fucking thing you can think of and don't hold yourself to any level because it's like you can sometimes think about, oh man, when I was really in shape before, I was doing heavy squats and I just don't feel like doing that or I'm not ready and just do whatever you're ready for. And I even struggle with that still. I don't know what the psychology of that is. But if you can break that path pattern and just keep showing up attendance, if you, if you can practice good attendance, you'll always win.

[Sean Hayes]

Right. And that's kind of like what they say about being an actor in a lot of ways. Right. It's like, just show up on time, know your lines and go home. Yeah. You know, and it's like no matter how good or bad you feel like you're doing, if you do that, everyone will love you.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. McQueen was just staying the deliver.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. Like you just never.

[Jason Bateman]

Me and Stan will of course take your word for it as to not really working.

[Sean Hayes]

No, I mean, it's something that I think it's true. Like, you know. Cause like the one thing you can do to mitigate that is show up on time and know your lines.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

You know, and then everything else will be fine.

[Jason Bateman]

Off Stanger's advice to the other thing, you. Because you, you're the one who told me that you're like, well, if you, you like the sauna, if you, if you're not going to go to the gym, but saying, I'm just gonna go to the sauna, we'll get you there, go there and then you get there and you're like, I could jump on the fucking. I could jump on the bike for

[Ryan Stanger]

a little bit, end up doing something.

[Jason Bateman]

I could bang out a few sets of chest and then get, get in the sa.

[Sean Hayes]

Truly. Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

Stretch on the mat, look at my phone. You end up doing something and then you get a positive neuro association with the gym to where it's like, I like going there because it's never a drag.

[Jason Bateman]

Right.

[Sean Hayes]

Right. And it makes me feel good.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. And if it feels like a drag, you're not going to show up and

[Sean Hayes]

that you're not doing the right exercise.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

For yourself. Whatever it might be like, you know, if, if that, if you need, whatever you need to get you. If you like swimming, you know, find the pool. If you like it, whatever it is, that's great.

[Ryan Stanger]

I mean, that's another thing to mention is if it feels, if you're not happy doing it, do something else.

[Jason Bateman]

You're never gonna wait.

[Ryan Stanger]

It's. You You're a grown up. Do something else, right? Find something that you like, crucial. If you're like, this feels like shit and I hate it, of course you're not gonna exercise, right? Do something else. Find something fun and challenge yourself to, you know, challenge yourself to find something fun that you enjoy.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. People who are afraid of the gym, get something at home, like. Like, you know, figure. Figure out a way to get yourself going.

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, that's like a whole nother episode idea that we could do, and Stanger would be a good guest for that.

[Ryan Stanger]

Let's start booking them now.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, it's good. Staying. Staying available.

[Ryan Stanger]

9am tomorrow until this starts doing well. And then, like, we're good.

[Sean Hayes]

He's got his own spin off. He's Dr. Phil.

[Jason Bateman]

But no, like, being comfortable in the gym is probably a good episode because. Because gyms are less scary than people think they are. People are more surprisingly more supportive than you think they are.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Ryan Stanger]

Full disguise, I think is good. Dress up like a dog in a zipper suit, all that kind of running

[Jason Bateman]

on the treadmill on all four force.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. You're always painting your face, right?

[Jason Bateman]

Like a clown. Not racistly.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, but you should hear the clown's voice.

[Jason Bateman]

The clown's voice is offensive.

[Sean Hayes]

That is

[Jason Bateman]

Stanger.

[Sean Hayes]

Thank you so much, man. This was such a pleasure. Is there anything you want to plug?

[Ryan Stanger]

People should listen to Gabrius and I doing Action Boys on Patreon. I'm sure that hasn't come up ever.

[Jason Bateman]

So none of our guests are co hosts of my other podcast, so it's nice to bring you in here, Action Boys biz. And you also also host a fitness.

[Ryan Stanger]

I do a fitness podcast called Dumbbells. It's. It's anywhere where podcasts are found. Talk about all kinds of fitness. And it's information light. You know, it's more silly. Just kind of us making sense.

[Jason Bateman]

Not as scientific as this one.

[Sean Hayes]

Not with the pros.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. I didn't push as hard as I do on this one.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. One thing I think you're going to the mat for us.

[Jason Bateman]

One thing I think you and Aaron do that's cool on your pod is go true. Try weird fitness trends.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, that's cool.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. So if people ask us, we'll go try this. I'm gonna do VO2 max coming up. I'm scared for that one. And then a dex VO2 max. VO2 max is how efficiently your body takes over and uses oxygen like.

[Jason Bateman]

Like Lance Armstrong and Michael Phelps have, like, insane VO2 max.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

Because they're people who have great cardio lung systems.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah. So I'm gonna do that and then we're gonna do a DEXA scan.

[Jason Bateman]

I did a DEXA scan.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

I scan a body fat skin.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh boy.

[Ryan Stanger]

And it's the most accurate. And they look at, they, they look at bone density and all that. Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

Bad news.

[Ryan Stanger]

I'm.

[Jason Bateman]

I'm carrying like according to that, I'm carrying like 90 pounds of fat. That is so that is a person. Yeah, that is a small person, but it's a full person. I'm carrying around extra.

[Ryan Stanger]

You get, I mean get that person out of you.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, I'm trying, trying a couple more it out today.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

Probably down to 88. I had sweet green.

[Sean Hayes]

Well, let's mark, let's mark the progress on that because I have a feeling that in the run of this show you're gonna get that, that little person's gonna become an actual little person.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. Hell yeah. I'm gonna get down to a Warwick Davis in there.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. I'm at a bad Santa level.

[Jason Bateman]

I gotta get it down to jawa size.

[Sean Hayes]

Hope it's back up to Chewy level.

[Jason Bateman]

That's why, that's why Harrison was lost in the mall. He didn't have Chewy as co pilot.

[Sean Hayes]

Meanwhile, Chewy was on the other side in his Prius.

[Jason Bateman]

This is the largest car I could afford on my salary.

[Sean Hayes]

It's got the ways ding. But then the ways goes.

[Ryan Stanger]

Chewy's just banging with a wrench trying to fix it.

[Sean Hayes]

It's like, you know it's not broken.

[Jason Bateman]

They'll rip your arms off.

[Sean Hayes]

Thanks, Danger.

[Ryan Stanger]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

Thank you R.

[Sean Hayes]

Dude, he's the best.

[Jason Bateman]

What's the straw house thing?

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, you still.

[Ryan Stanger]

No.

[Jason Bateman]

That was a hell of a convo. Answered a lot of questions. I hope some people got some good take.

[Sean Hayes]

I wish all personal trainers were that chill.

[Jason Bateman]

Were that like upfront about what.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, upfront about the expectations that you should have of them and, and the way it's going to go. Go. It's like so, it's just so nice to have someone that's so fact based and, and just like simple about it, you know?

[Jason Bateman]

I really wish he wasn't too good of a friend because I would love to hire him as a personal.

[Sean Hayes]

Me too. Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

I don't think we would just be though.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. I want to be trained by a friend and like do that thing where you're talking about stuff while you're exercising.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. I don't.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, things are, things are good. I mean it could be better. It's like, I don't want.

[Jason Bateman]

I already talked to him like three hours a week about 70s action movies. So I don't need to add like mock health to the night.

[Sean Hayes]

No, no, no. You don't need another hour of staying. But that was a great one.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. We'll see you on the next episode. Let's see if you actually can stay alive. Stay alive. You have been listening to Staying Alive with John Gabris and Adam Pally. A Smartless Media production in association with Sirius xm.

[Sean Hayes]

Produced by Devin Tory Bryant and Anne Harris. Engineered and edited by Devin Tory Bryant, who also wrote the music, Associate producer

[Jason Bateman]

and video producer is Matty McCann. Social media producer Tommy Galgano, assistant engineer Kyle McGraw.

[Sean Hayes]

Special thanks to Jared O' Connell at SiriusXM.

[Jason Bateman]

Executive producers are John Gabris. Ooh me. Adam Pally. Ooh you. Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Richard Corson and Bernie K. Kaminsky. Do us a favor. Just rate and review the podcast. It actually helps.

[Sean Hayes]

Just so everyone knows we do not

[Jason Bateman]

have a discord, don't reach out to us.

[Sean Hayes]

See us on the street. Walk the other way or you'll catch hands. Getting old sucks.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, I got to figure out my life.

[Ryan Stanger]

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[Jason Bateman]

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[Ryan Stanger]

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[Jason Bateman]

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[Ryan Stanger]

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