Shredded Mimes (w/ Paul W Downs)

Summary

Staying Alive with Jon Gabrus & Adam Pally

Episode: “Shredded Mimes” with Paul W. Downs

Date: August 6, 2026
Podcast Network: SmartLess Media

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Episode Overview

This episode features actor, writer, and director Paul W. Downs (Broad City, Hacks) joining hosts Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally on the very day of his show's series finale. The conversation, brimming with camaraderie, focuses on the emotional comedown from wrapping a major project, the realities of maintaining health while living and working in Hollywood, navigating wellness trends, the challenges of ADHD, and the joys (and awkwardness) of showbiz. The group shares candid perspectives on body image, fitness, work-life balance, and their comedic journey together.

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Main Topics & Discussion Highlights

The Day of the Finale (00:02–04:20)

• Paul W. Downs joins on the day of the Hacks series finale:
  • He's “raw” and “dizzy,” explaining, “I actually feel dizzy today.” (00:15)
  • Gabrus and Pally laud his commitment: “It's a real testament to how cool Paul is.” (01:35)
• Acknowledgment of the unique emotional state:
  • Paul jokes about vertigo and emotional vulnerability even though “I'm the least emo of everybody.” (00:25)

Hacks, Endings, and the Creative Process (04:20–08:20)

• The hosts break down why Hacks has resonated:
  • Gabrus confesses: “Every episode—the last three have felt like finales to me.” (02:43)
  • Pally appreciates that the show made the audience care about the ending, which is rare for comedies.
• Paul on how last episodes can be mistaken for the finale due to strong storytelling structure.

Sobriety, Body Image, and Healthy Changes (08:37–11:44)

• Paul’s decision to quit drinking (goal: aesthetics as well as health):
  • “Honestly, wanting to look better, you know? Hell yeah, I look better when I don’t drink.” (04:50, 08:37)
  • Pally and Gabrus joke about pressuring others to drink at meetings and reflect on shifting habits with age and career.
• Paul on not missing alcohol: “When I don’t do it, I don’t crave it.” (04:01)
• Body image and the pressures of being in the public eye discussed with characteristic self-effacing humor.

Nutrition & Coffee Rituals (11:44–16:48)

• Paul's recent foray into “dirty keto”:
  • “I ate more red meat than I’ve ever eaten…my cholesterol…went up 150.” (12:09)
  • Discovering the positive and negative effects on body composition and labs.
• The group’s coffee journeys—from Cinnabon mocha lattes to “unsweetened vanilla flax milk” to the comfort of communal coffee.
  • Paul: “I was addicted to Mocha Lotta Chills from Cinnabon. I had one every day from seventh grade till I graduated college. Not a joke.” (14:38)
• The maturation of taste and how small daily rituals relate to their identities as comics and aging men.

The Staying Alive Question: How Are You Staying Alive? (16:53–21:17)

• The show’s core question is posed to Paul:
  • He links his fitness journey to playing a trainer on Broad City and managing life/career ups and downs.
  • On control: “This final season was a lot about control…With the show ending, I’m like, what can I control? My body.” (19:03)
• The feedback loop provided by resistance training and fitness, versus the ambiguity of creative progress in comedy.

Fitness Philosophies, Workout Routines & Accountability (21:12–24:43)

• Paul outlines his workout approach:
  • Favors a “bro split” (isolated muscle group focus), works with a trainer, and values accountability.
  • Does abs, leg lifts (“trying to get the cum gutters deep…” (22:02)), and emphasizes that “something is better than nothing.”
• The hosts riff on the relatability and Instagram-driven trends in fitness, poking fun at online fitness models & routines.
  • Notable quote: “Never judge a workout by the model’s muscles.” (30:31)

Wellness Trends: Cold Plunge, Supplements & Psychosomatic Benefits (31:36–34:43)

• Biohacking/Wellness Fads:
  • Paul describes his brief cold plunge habit (“when our pool was like 50 degrees, I would get in for five minutes”—(31:57)).
  • Introduces NAD shots (injectables thought to aid focus, boost energy): “I do feel a little bit of a jolt, but again, I don’t know long-term. But…I do think in terms of brain fog, it is helpful.” (33:53)
• Gabrus & Pally are fascinated by wellness trends rife in LA, joking about placebos: “Even if it is psychosomatic, it’s worth it to fix my psycho.” (32:18)

ADHD Real Talk: Medication, Creativity, & Coping (34:47–41:15)

• Deep discussion about ADHD and related medications (Vyvanse, Ritalin, Adderall).
  • Paul on being diagnosed in college but quitting medication to stay “funny.” “I was like, I can have bad grades. I need to be funny in the improv scene.” (35:32)
  • Pally describes life-changing benefits after finally getting medicated as an adult: “I definitely am more present…and able to do the thing I’m supposed to be doing.” (36:32)
• Insights on how ADHD affects professional and creative life, especially in acting.
  • Paul: “You gotta focus on your scene partner and, like, listen and react.” (40:03)

Acting, Industry Realities & The Red Carpet (44:02–50:47)

• Paul will miss acting most post-Hacks: “Acting’s the best. It’s so fun.” (44:05)
• The group mocks the awkwardness and “assembly line” of awards red carpets, and how comedy bits save them.
  • Paul: "They’re so [self-serious]…It’s so fun, and everyone else is like, we get to talk about this [bit].” (44:32)
• Working with co-star Meg (“we have so much fun. I’m gonna miss her and our scene work…” (44:17)), and the challenges/opportunities of improvising on a heavily scripted show.

The Blessings and Surreality of Success (50:47–53:50)

• Paul and the hosts describe surreal moments in the industry—the BAFTAs, AFI Honors, RuPaul’s compliments—parlaying into discussions of gratitude and luck:
  • “We say every night, we are so lucky. We do not…It is not lost on us how lucky we are.” (57:58)

Work-Life Balance, Vacation Mindset & Next Steps (53:50–62:27)

• With the show over, Paul and Lucia (his wife and collaborator) are taking a long two-month European sabbatical, including the French Open and travels in Italy.
  • “I’m ready to get like, round and brown…eating a lot of pasta and tennis.” (62:01)
• Discussion about the generative value of downtime: “I think that’s when the best stuff happens…when I’m not [trying to force it].” (55:45)
• Teasing future projects—a limited series in (very early) development—and the relief of closing one chapter before starting another.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Closure & Emotional Strain

  • “Once it airs and it’s out in the world, then every day will be further and further from the experience.”
    – Paul W. Downs on the day of his series finale (48:50)

• On Industry Luck

  • “We say every night, we are so lucky…It is not lost on us how lucky we are.”
    – Paul W. Downs (57:58)

• On Health Routines

  • “I do pursue it…One of them was because I played a trainer on TV…and so I got really into working out then because I was like, I gotta look a little bit like I’m in shape…”
    – Paul W. Downs (17:01)

• On Wellness Trends

  • “I did [cold plunge in the winter]. Our pool was like 50 degrees…That was actually great.”
    – Paul W. Downs (31:49)
  • “Psychosomatic is rocking…Placebo is real.”
    – Paul W. Downs (32:18, 32:25)

• On Acting and Performing

  • “Acting’s the best. It’s so fun.”
    – Paul W. Downs (44:05)
  • “You gotta focus on your scene partner and, like, listen and react.”
    – Paul W. Downs (40:03)

• On Comedy and Gratitude

  • “You say interesting things about comedy within your show too…”
    – John Gabrus (58:26)

• On Cinnabon and Youthful Habits

  • “I was addicted to Mocha Lotta Chills from Cinnabon. I had one every day from seventh grade till I graduated college. Not a joke.”
    – Paul W. Downs (14:38)

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Segment Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamps | |-----------------------------------------------|-----------------| | Emotional Fallout of Series Finale | 00:02–04:20 | | Hacks Discussion & TV Show Endings | 04:20–08:20 | | Sobriety, Body Image, Health Choices | 08:37–11:44 | | Fitness Routines & Nutrition | 11:44–16:48 | | Coffee Rituals & Daily Maturation | 14:37–16:48 | | Main Staying Alive Question | 16:53–21:17 | | Workout Strategies & Accountability | 21:15–24:43 | | Wellness Trends: Cold Plunge, Placebo Effects | 31:36–34:43 | | ADHD, Medication, and Creativity | 34:47–41:15 | | Acting, Red Carpets, and Self-Awareness | 44:02–50:47 | | Gratefulness and Industry Surreality | 50:47–53:50 | | Vacation Plans and Future Projects | 53:50–62:27 | | Health Goals and European Sabbatical | 61:51–62:27 |

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Episode Tone & Banter

This is a lively, heartfelt, and consistently funny conversation among old friends, with classic self-deprecation and inside jokes:

• Banter about body types and comedy cliques.
• Industry war stories and loving mockery of Hollywood excess.
• Sincere, sometimes vulnerable disclosures about the mental load of creative work, show business rejection, and the drive to stay healthy.
• Reflections on parenting, identity, and redefining success.

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Takeaways

• Health is a multi-faceted, ongoing process—from sobriety to workout routines to mental health.
• Professional closure brings a mix of grief and gratitude—and often leaves creators scrambling for the next source of control or validation.
• Comedy and fitness are both coping mechanisms for the unpredictability of show business.
• Taking time off is vital—not just for rest, but for creative rejuvenation.
• Vulnerability and humor are essential tools for dealing with life transitions, especially in creative communities.

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Recommended for:
Fans of Hacks and Broad City, anyone interested in the behind-the-scenes of television, wellness & mental health enthusiasts, comedians, and listeners navigating the realities of adulthood and creative careers.

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Transcript

[Capital One Announcer]

Smart.

[John Gabrus]

Less medium. We were trying to unpack when your finale was. We're like, oh, it's tonight. I can't believe he's doing this for us. I cannot believe you're here.

[Paul W. Downs]

It's like, it's good to be busy today, but it's crazy to be here. I'm really raw. I'm. I'm like, I'm dizzy. I actually feel dizzy today.

[Adam Pally]

Whoa.

[Paul W. Downs]

I'm the least. I'm the least emo of everybody.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

But I've been. I have like vertigo this morning. And I'm like, is it because of this?

[Adam Pally]

Well, as someone who has. I think you're in the right company because I've lost many a TV show.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

And not necessarily in the fifth season.

[Adam Pally]

Not somewhere in the third. Somewhere in the second. A lot. A lot more in the first. Well, seems to be the new pattern. But. Did not realize when. When our buddy said he was going to come on the show that this

[John Gabrus]

would be the day of the finale of his. Of season five of his life's work.

[Adam Pally]

Of his opus.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

You know, of his.

[John Gabrus]

True. Our guest is about to come in. We were talking like, oh, when's the finale of Hacks? And Devin pointed out that it is tonight. And so on the day of the series finale of his big project that's. Everyone's talking about super successful. He's stopping by to do Staying alive.

[Adam Pally]

I know.

[John Gabrus]

And it's a real testament to how cool Paul is.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. And our friendship. For sure.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

But I also feel that that had we, like, I almost feel bad that we didn't know.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

To say. But to say to him, like, you don't have to.

[John Gabrus]

Right. Because we could have done that.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Next month.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? But like, neither of us thought about it.

[John Gabrus]

Well, I'm so happy to have it to. That he made this choice. Now we get to have Paul on our. Talking about Hacks.

[Adam Pally]

On the day.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. On the day.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Well, just about the coolest guy. Funniest guy.

[John Gabrus]

Buff, handsome boy.

[Adam Pally]

Got it all, man. Yeah, he's got it all.

[John Gabrus]

You'll see.

[Adam Pally]

That was cool. You climbed the mountaintop like you. You. You did the funniest show on television.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, that's so nice.

[Adam Pally]

For five years.

[Paul W. Downs]

Thanks.

[Adam Pally]

Unheard of. And no matter what you do, it's

[John Gabrus]

like you did it not make a funny show. But I really care how it ends. Do you know that's so rare with. Where you actually give a fudge how it ends.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

But I. Every. Every episode. The last three have felt like finales to me.

[Paul W. Downs]

People thought last week was the finale. Everybody did.

[John Gabrus]

They were like, I was afraid.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

I was, like, crazy. Not show her. Do msg. That's cool.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Wait a minute. That does feel like a weird ending to the show.

[Paul W. Downs]

I don't know why everybody thought maybe the SC at the end. I don't know. Something made it feel like that.

[John Gabrus]

It had a good ending.

[Adam Pally]

It had a good third act, as most of the episodes do.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

You know, and seasons do.

[John Gabrus]

But the thing that got me was I saw randomly, someone post, maybe even you, was like, the finale is great. Try to watch. Oh, Travis, probably Travis over there. He was like. He was like, watch it before it gets spoiled for you. And I was like, I watched it five days ago. I was like, wait, there's another one. I was like, oh, yeah, Yeah. I was so giddy.

[Paul W. Downs]

Good, good, good. Well, it's. There are spoilers in this. Are you.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Are you. How are you dealing with the ending? Like, me, I would deal with it the way I deal with every day, which is I would be drinking.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah. I haven't. I haven't drank in, like, two months.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, I know.

[John Gabrus]

Good for you.

[Paul W. Downs]

I know. I have to kind of go cold turkey on that, you know, and is that what.

[John Gabrus]

What brought you cold turkey, hot turkey,

[Paul W. Downs]

or I go hot turkey? Yeah, hot turkey. I'm hot turkey.

[John Gabrus]

It's all open face. Thanksgiving sandwich.

[Paul W. Downs]

Well, I find also when I don't do it for a while, I. I don't crave it.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[Paul W. Downs]

You know, like when I'm drinking, I'm like, I need a glass of wine bad at lunch. I'm like, I need it at lunch.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

You know what I mean? I'm like, the guy that should be like, sorry, guys, I'm getting a glass of wine.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

You know, you, like, make the executives go, like, I guess we're getting drinks.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, some of them do, and some of them don't.

[Adam Pally]

I used to be that guy. And then I started to be like, maybe I am. Maybe. Maybe I am, like, turning people off.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

You know, do you ever see, like, you're the person who sets it off, and then, like, the younger people that are at the meeting are like, oh, sick. Not everyone. Just the guy who we're gonna tease for two weeks and not ire at all.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

Mostly it's people don't do it, and then I'm the only one drinking. I'm like, well, all right. But when I don't do it, I don't want to do it two months.

[Adam Pally]

What brought that on?

[Paul W. Downs]

Honestly. Honestly wanting to look better, you know? Hell yeah, I look better when I don't drink.

[John Gabrus]

You're on the right show.

[Adam Pally]

You are the youngest looking 29 year old I've ever met.

[Paul W. Downs]

Thank you so much. I gotta stay looking.

[John Gabrus]

I've known you for like 15, 20 years.

[Adam Pally]

I've known you for 20 years. I mean, I met you when you were eight.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, I know, I know.

[John Gabrus]

I true prodigy around the comedy. I love doing creepy one.

[Adam Pally]

The least you said. You said he's the least creepy one.

[Paul W. Downs]

Least creepy one. We had to dress up, we did sketches. It was great. It was like comedy boot camp.

[Adam Pally]

I learned everything. I know my baby voice was a problem.

[John Gabrus]

And the different voice you used to

[Adam Pally]

teach that I taught in. And the coding, like teaching you how to code switch was not. That was.

[Paul W. Downs]

It didn't age well.

[Adam Pally]

It didn't age well. But at the time, at the time it was good. Great.

[Paul W. Downs]

Really good.

[Capital One Announcer]

Really good.

[John Gabrus]

So are you not drinking in the lead up to this show? Cuz you're looking, you're. And they let, they let, they let Jimmy be sexy, which is, you know.

[Paul W. Downs]

Well, finally they let me, you know, finally you're shredded.

[John Gabrus]

Cute.

[Paul W. Downs]

I don't, I don't remember who pitched that. I literally don't pitch. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding.

[Adam Pally]

You did not pitch that.

[John Gabrus]

You're doing a plank in the writers room going, like, if anyone has any idea.

[Adam Pally]

Sending a pic. You didn't send a pic.

[John Gabrus]

No, I became, I became.

[Adam Pally]

That one's so crazy.

[Paul W. Downs]

You want, you want to change the dynamic of the show?

[Adam Pally]

We'll do this.

[Paul W. Downs]

No, in fact, I, for a long time was like, I don't want it to seem like as the showrunner, I was like, we have to do this.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

Should we not do it? I was like full to the, to the week of shooting. I was like, should we. You know what I mean? Like, I was like, let's not, I mean, be nude.

[Adam Pally]

But there is. Yeah, yeah.

[John Gabrus]

You don't want to go like full Jon Favreau where you're like casting Sophia as your love triangle.

[Adam Pally]

I mean, there's. That's always, you know, like, I remember when we were casting Throwback, there was like a couple times where I would suggest someone and the casting executives at NBC would like, snicker or laugh a little bit and it's like, oh, right. Like I'm Kevin James, I think.

[Paul W. Downs]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Adam Pally]

But do you know what I mean? And they'd be like, ha. You know? And you're like, whoa, all right.

[John Gabrus]

I think the most humiliated I could be is if I pitched a sitcom. Someone said, who do you want to play your wife? And they. I put out, there'd be like, hannah Waddingham.

[Adam Pally]

My list was, like, wild, you know, but it was like, alona Mars is

[Paul W. Downs]

not even an actress. She's a rugby player.

[Adam Pally]

No.

[Paul W. Downs]

Hey, truth is stranger than fiction. Look at. Look at real life.

[Adam Pally]

I know.

[Paul W. Downs]

Look at real life. Some of these women, I don't know, but I take your word for it. Some of them are dating men that are not in the same stratosphere. So guess what? I think it's shoot for the start. Hey, I was married to Scarlet in a movie.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, right.

[Paul W. Downs]

We did. We did write toward.

[Adam Pally]

Wasn't yours.

[John Gabrus]

It was the bit. A little bit.

[Paul W. Downs]

She's a twerk. I was gonna say, like, did they

[Adam Pally]

mention it in that movie?

[Paul W. Downs]

We did. We did.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

We justified hard.

[John Gabrus]

Best looking friend.

[Adam Pally]

I know.

[John Gabrus]

He's gotta have a disclaimer.

[Adam Pally]

I'm cooked.

[John Gabrus]

And what about me? What did I call myself today? Too much Sugar Ray.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, my God.

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[Adam Pally]

So you're not drinking? That must make it really tough. I mean, you must be, like, raw. You must be feeling everything.

[Paul W. Downs]

I'm very raw.

[Capital One Announcer]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

So are you eating? Are you?

[Paul W. Downs]

I cried in public the other night. Well, we did, like, a panel, and I couldn't.

[Adam Pally]

Where did I see you the other night?

[Paul W. Downs]

At Kate's.

[Adam Pally]

You.

[Paul W. Downs]

You performed at Kate? Yes.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. So sorry.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, that was fun. Sorry. I'm gonna turn this on. I'm expecting a call. I need to take. Guys, I have to take it. I can keep it in the pod. It's fine.

[John Gabrus]

It's fine.

[Adam Pally]

Here's this.

[Paul W. Downs]

You could.

[Adam Pally]

That's the smallest Bluetooth I've ever seen.

[Paul W. Downs]

What?

[Adam Pally]

How are you hearing it? Oh, you're not? I thought you were talking.

[Paul W. Downs]

Hello.

[John Gabrus]

What do you mean? You can't extend it very small, but

[Paul W. Downs]

it also does my phone.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

Really good. It's really good. They're getting better.

[Adam Pally]

Hearing aid.

[Paul W. Downs]

Really?

[Adam Pally]

Yes. My age, like, my best friend. Yes. That we both.

[Paul W. Downs]

That's. My baby monitor is on. Can you believe this? How about that, guys?

[Adam Pally]

Your baby monitor is on.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Right now.

[Paul W. Downs]

My nan. It's like always on.

[John Gabrus]

And your baby's on a conference call with uta.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yes, exactly. He's, you know, well, he's writing for the show now, so he keeps. He does have two jokes.

[Adam Pally]

He keeps pitching shirtless scenes.

[John Gabrus]

He's like, shirtless, pop up, please.

[Adam Pally]

Body.

[Paul W. Downs]

Dada, you're gorgeous. She does always say, isn't Dada so cute? And he's like, dada so cute. And I'm like, don't do this. This is cra. This is trauma. You can't. You can't make our child say that. I'm huge. It's crazy.

[John Gabrus]

Cut to, like, your kid is like 12. You're like, dad, that's so cute. Right? I have to go.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah. Oh, he's gonna be in a lot of therapy.

[Adam Pally]

I mean, I. I definitely do call my kids sometimes. I'm like, do I look okay?

[Paul W. Downs]

Do you? That's good. That's good. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

The feedback is so harsh.

[Paul W. Downs]

Really?

[Adam Pally]

Oh, my God. My kids are like, especially. My 14 year old is like, very into fashion.

[Paul W. Downs]

Well. And so runs in the family.

[Adam Pally]

Yes. But. But he's like, young, and so it's still like, you know what I mean? Like, I like, see something I like, through my Instagram or whatever.

[Paul W. Downs]

Right.

[Adam Pally]

That's cool. I have no. Want to seek it out anymore.

[Paul W. Downs]

Sure.

[Adam Pally]

He's like, you know, wearing shoes would have like, like things like.

[Paul W. Downs]

Really? Oh, really?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, no, he's got like tabbies or. Tabbies. Yeah, he's like, super cool.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And the other. The other day I was going to a party and I was like, wearing black jeans and a. Like a. The sailor shirt that I have and a blazer. And I was like, how's this? And he's like, I feel like you look too young for how old you are.

[Paul W. Downs]

No.

[Adam Pally]

And I was like. And it was such like a kid thing to know. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

That's like, that. That would undo all of us. That's like an entire part of our industry.

[Adam Pally]

But the way he said it. The way he said it too. He's like, you look too young for how old you are. I was like, oh, my God. And he's like, what? I mean, you want to show up at this party, was gonna be like a bunch of people and. And you want to, like, stick out because of the thing you're wearing. And I was like, oh, my God.

[John Gabrus]

I mean, I read you.

[Paul W. Downs]

This is Crazy.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

I got an earring.

[Paul W. Downs]

This is good, though.

[Capital One Announcer]

It is.

[Adam Pally]

Well, it is nice to have that. And we all will. If you are. If you are a parent.

[Paul W. Downs]

I am.

[Adam Pally]

There will be a day where you get, like, your insides read aloud to you, you know, in a casual way that will put you down and he'll just go on with his day, you know, he was like, oh, yeah. He was like, all right, see ya.

[John Gabrus]

FaceTime over.

[Adam Pally]

And I was sitting in the hotel

[Paul W. Downs]

room like, you're too old for that. That's crazy.

[Adam Pally]

So. So are you eating? Is there. Are you cheating? In what am I. Are you cheating?

[Paul W. Downs]

Anyway, this is what I've been doing. I've been doing keto, which I know is like, old school, I guess. Is it something I've been doing keto, like two amazing.

[Adam Pally]

Like, what kind of keto are we talking? Because there's like, all.

[Paul W. Downs]

Dirty keto.

[Adam Pally]

Dirty, dirty, dirty keto with a twist.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, with a twist. Dirty keto. Yeah. Yeah. I do eat olives. Olives are keto friendly.

[Adam Pally]

All right.

[Paul W. Downs]

No, I've been eating like, I ate more red meat than I've ever eaten this the past six months, honestly. And guess what? My cholesterol is. Went up 150.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, God.

[Paul W. Downs]

I was at like 50. I was at like 77. Now it's like 243. Something. My LDL. Yeah, it's really. My doctor was like, this is. Is an emergency. He was like, we have to test your blood again in three months. I just had a physical because I've been doing it for a while, and it's the best because you eat cheese, you eat fat. I. I've already. I already do heavy cream in my coffee. I've always done that.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I was really the first thing I cut when.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, wow.

[Adam Pally]

I wasn't a heavy cream guy. I was like a. Even like a milk or. Or non fat milk skim milk guy. But as soon as I was like, oh, I have to lose weight, I was just. Black coffee.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, I can't do it.

[Adam Pally]

Black coffee.

[Paul W. Downs]

I really can't.

[John Gabrus]

Sugar out of my coffee like, 15 years ago. And now I'm just like, I'm. I'm always trying the newest boot. Like, I live in West Hollywood and I just get to choose the bougiest plant milk I can find every time. And now I'm on unsweetened vanilla flax milk that I like. But for a while, I was on Honestly, Dashio.

[Adam Pally]

That sounds like delicious dog. It is unsweetened vanilla flat. Wow. What's the vanilla. What is vanilla?

[Paul W. Downs]

Sweet.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. But it doesn't have any, like, added sugar. You get. It's called unsweetened vanilla, but it has a hint of it. And I just need my coffee to be slightly diluted.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

You know what I mean?

[John Gabrus]

It's more about that. Yeah. Then I get. I like it watery. You like.

[Adam Pally]

I like my.

[Paul W. Downs]

You do.

[Adam Pally]

To have the consistency of tea.

[Paul W. Downs]

That's very New York, I think.

[Adam Pally]

I think so, too.

[Paul W. Downs]

That's like bodega coffee.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

I need it to be like espresso, like, black, dark black. But I need cream. I. My evolution.

[Adam Pally]

When you're in Italy, you don't do. You don't do, like, the espresso.

[Paul W. Downs]

I do. I do when I'm in Italy.

[John Gabrus]

Although that's, for me, that's toxic masculinity. I drink. If everyone around me orders black coffee, I don't change. Yeah. Black coffee. Like, I'm like, yeah, I'll do an espresso.

[Adam Pally]

I don't stick out.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. No. I would never order a cappuccino.

[Paul W. Downs]

That's right. You got part of the team. I'm part of the community.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

I find coffee for me is that, like, I only drink iced coffee. But if I'm somewhere and someone's like, we made a pot of coffee, I'll be like, yes. The idea of the communal pot of coffee, I'll. I'll enjoy drinking, you know?

[Paul W. Downs]

Or like, I'm much more hot. I always want hot. Even in the summer. I'm like, I want a hot coffee, especially in the morning.

[Adam Pally]

An iced coffee doesn't do it for me. My wife lives on iced coffee.

[Paul W. Downs]

So many people do.

[Adam Pally]

My wife was like, that.

[John Gabrus]

I.

[Adam Pally]

Sometimes I'm like, did you eat anything today? Or just have 10 giant iced coffees?

[Paul W. Downs]

Like, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

You know, and. And I. I can't even sip it. It's like, there's something. But if it's the same thing in a hot cup, I'll drink the whole thing.

[Paul W. Downs]

I know. It's like. It's the. You know, the ritual, the morning, the thing. Yeah. But my evolution has been crazy because I was addicted to mocha Lotta chills from Cinnabon. I had one every day from seventh grade till I graduated college. Not a joke.

[John Gabrus]

That's a very.

[Paul W. Downs]

They're like 1400 calories.

[John Gabrus]

They are very specific place to get, like. I know they're not as ubiquitous as Starbucks.

[Adam Pally]

I never remember you. I never remember you with any sort of. Of mocha.

[Paul W. Downs]

Really?

[Adam Pally]

Chin of fat on you.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, well, oh, well. It was like cocaine. I was like, you know, and when you have that, you don't need to really eat much because you're running around. You're crazy. Yeah, I would get them at Penn Station. I would get it at Penn Station before ucb and when I was in college, there was only one at the airport. So I'd pick people up and buy, like, five in a carrier, put them in my fridge. They would get thick. They would get, like, thick and hard. Really disgusting. But when I was in high school, I. I drove past the Cinnabon on my way to school. So I would go in every day on the way home.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, my goodness.

[Paul W. Downs]

So then I went from that to coffee with tons of sugar and cream. Then I cut it down to, like, one Splenda. Then I took that out. Now I have less. I'm gradually moving toward black, but I can't do black.

[John Gabrus]

That's like the natural maturation, right? Like, that's just growing up.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

I guess when you're a kid, you're like, I can't believe my mom drinks coffee every day. It stinks. And then you find you get coffee, you're like, I can't live without this.

[Adam Pally]

You know?

[John Gabrus]

And then you meet some old. And like, once you're like, oh, I just know this old Italian guy who smashes down two espressos, and you're like, that sounds great. Then the second you become that, you're like, I am now the old Italian I do. You make your coffee at home?

[Paul W. Downs]

I do.

[John Gabrus]

That is the biggest jump from when I moved from New York to la. I was like, I used to just take my dog out and go to the bodega and get a coffee every morning, and it was, like, six doors down. Now in la, I'm like, I just need. I. I want it before I could even reasonably get to it. So, like, yeah, I'm standing in, like, crust in my eyes, piss in my bladder, trying to whip up.

[Paul W. Downs]

Wow.

[Adam Pally]

Wow.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Crossed in my eyes.

[John Gabrus]

Sorry, I have that wrong. Piss in my eyes, crossed on my dick.

[Adam Pally]

I didn't say dick the first time.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, well, now I'm remembering how I really went.

[Paul W. Downs]

Right, right, right, right, right, right. Yeah, that's good.

[John Gabrus]

Time to change the bed.

[Paul W. Downs]

You're still getting crust on your dick. You know, you're going. Doing good. That's good, that's good, that's good.

[John Gabrus]

So, Paul, we really only ask our guests one question on this podcast, and we'll just get to it now.

[Paul W. Downs]

Let's do it.

[John Gabrus]

What are you Doing to stay alive.

[Paul W. Downs]

Wow.

[John Gabrus]

You've been fit as long as I've not. And not fit, like, oh, you know who's like, you? A person who pursues fitness.

[Paul W. Downs]

I do pursue it. Yeah. I do pursue it. Well, you know, and I pursued it for a few different reasons in life. One of them was because I played a trainer on tv, and so I got really into working out then because I was like, I got a kind. Yes. When I was on Broad City, I was like, I kind of got to look a little bit like, I'm in shape, because I hadn't really lifted weights or done anything since I was in high school.

[Adam Pally]

Did the casting come first or did the. Because, again, like, I remember you as always in shape.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Like, were they like you. Were they like, you're in shape, or were you just the most in shape of a group of people that were completely Slavic?

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. Being in shape for sketch comedians is like, it was. I was like, being in shape for tv.

[Paul W. Downs]

You know what? I was a swimmer. I was like, no one does butterfly. I'm going to do butterfly. That's going to be my stroke, you know? And so I was like, how can I differentiate myself from all the comedians in these hoodies? I know.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

Hex.

[Adam Pally]

No, no, I mean, because, yeah, I

[John Gabrus]

already have giant blue eyes. What can I try next?

[Adam Pally]

So they, they put you, they, they put you as a trainer, and you're like, I gotta look the part. And then it's also like, wow, I'm getting addicted to looking good.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yes. Although I guess I've always had what's, what do they call it? Orthorexia, when you, like, are addicted to eating healthily. Oh, wow. Yeah. I think it's called you're orthorexic. I, I. And I was that not a joke After I basically stopped drinking mocha. Lotta chills. Because a friend of mine's dad was a cardiologist, and she was like, so my dad says you're gonna have diabetes. And I was like, what? She was like, the amount of, like, blood sugar you probably have is crazy because I had them every day. I'm not even kidding. This girl that I went to school with. And so I was. That kind of freaked me out. And then When I turned 24, 25, they started. I started getting, like, heavier. I was like, oh, my metabolism is changing. And that, like, freaked me out because I had always, I, you know, I was a swimmer. And then I, I don't know. I had always been an ectomorph. I had always, like, you Know, I had. I didn't really need to work out.

[John Gabrus]

Right.

[Paul W. Downs]

So that freaked me out. So then I started working out a little bit. And then when I was a trainer, I was like, well, I'll work out a lot.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[Paul W. Downs]

And then it's different times in my life when I'm like becoming a little bit ocd. Like, like now with the show ending, I'm like, what can I control?

[Adam Pally]

That's what I was thinking.

[Paul W. Downs]

My body. So I'm not drinking, I'm working out a lot. You know what I mean?

[Adam Pally]

That makes a lot of sense.

[Paul W. Downs]

I think this final season was a lot about control.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

You know, interesting.

[Adam Pally]

I mean, you got to grab it somewhere in your life. It's. It's really hard to. I try to not control it. Like, I really try to float through.

[Paul W. Downs]

Good for you.

[Adam Pally]

It's so hard. It's not because you're like, you find yourself doing it in ways that are like, not the ways where you're like, that's not control either, you know?

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Well, yeah. Like leaving a show that you're ostensibly in control of and now back into the world where nothing is in your hands. It's all in the stranger. Middle person, middleman kind of hands. Like, you're like, I need to grab hold of something. I had another follow up question. Like, when you do that for the Broad City trainer role, you're like, I better. One thing about resistance training is you notice results and then all of a sudden you're like, I think in our industry you can frequently do a lot of stuff without seeing any, like, any kind of feedback or any kind of results. And then when you're like, Whoa, I'm squatting 10 more pounds today than I did two weeks ago. I'm improving. No one's ever going like, Paul, your writing is getting funnier.

[Paul W. Downs]

Right.

[John Gabrus]

Gabriel, your improv is doing so much, you know, like, no one's ever, like, you're not really able to quantify it. Really. Nothing's quantifiable that we're doing. But all of a sudden, weights and you're seeing results in the mirror and you're feeling stronger and you're like, oh, shit. And that's that. To me, that's my version of the control of, like, there's progress happening.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Where nothing else I do feels like progress, everything else feels reactive so totally. It feels so good to be like, I do this again and I'm better at it than I was last month.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Like, that just doesn't. We don't get that feedback in a lot of place. Except for, like, I guess, your quote.

[Paul W. Downs]

Right, right, right.

[Adam Pally]

Well, yeah, but no one gets.

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[Paul W. Downs]

I know. No one gets a quote. Yeah, it's like, I'll wave my quote. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, my God.

[John Gabrus]

Excited to be here.

[Adam Pally]

I wave bye bye to my quote quote every time I get a new one.

[Paul W. Downs]

Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's crazy. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I don't even have a quote anymore. I have like, hyphen.

[John Gabrus]

My quote is, I'll do it.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's the only quote I'm in. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

So you're working out. What kind of workouts are you doing?

[Paul W. Downs]

So I do resistance training, I do weight training, and I do like one or two muscle groups when I work out.

[John Gabrus]

We call this bro split.

[Adam Pally]

You're on the bros.

[Paul W. Downs]

I'm on the bro split. Yeah, I'm on the bro split.

[John Gabrus]

And are you programming yourself or do

[Paul W. Downs]

you have a trainer? I work with a trainer, but also I work out on my own.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

One thing I've like, learned is things are out of proportion. Like, things grow faster than other things.

[Capital One Announcer]

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[Paul W. Downs]

I never do biceps or triceps because if I'm doing chest or shoulders, they. They just. Yeah. The secondary. You know what I mean? The secondary muscle groups. So I never do those. Even though sometimes. Anyway, sometimes I'm like. I don't want to look like I'm just doing our glamour muscles, you know what I mean? Abs wise, I do leg lifts, I do full leg ups, which is sometimes you hold a thing and you put your legs up and then you slowly lower them. Yeah. Toes to bar.

[Adam Pally]

Okay. So that's lower abs. That's giving you that. The calm gutter.

[Paul W. Downs]

Trying to get the calm gutters deep. You know what I mean? I need them to, you know, because there's so much. Sometimes you just need somewhere to go, you know? I want to drown, so I need those.

[Adam Pally]

My gutters.

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[Adam Pally]

The rain goes over the roof.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

They don't even get to the ranges.

[Paul W. Downs]

You gotta be careful. You can slip.

[Adam Pally]

I know. Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

Very careful. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

It's so funny on my body to get like surgery to add cum gutters, but I still have like this huge belly in the middle. But I. Weird.

[Adam Pally]

I always had love handles. I feel like love. Like, even when I'm in the most shape I've ever been, it's like I catch myself from the back.

[Paul W. Downs]

I'm like, totally.

[Adam Pally]

Like, I'm just Homer Simpson.

[Paul W. Downs]

That was the only thing that defeated love. Handles for me was going keto because I started living on fat, and so it, like, burns your storage. That was the only thing that did that because I had that. You know, everyone has that.

[John Gabrus]

Abs are made in the kitchen. Yeah, I know. Out train, but I can't cook.

[Adam Pally]

Cook.

[Paul W. Downs]

Let him cook.

[John Gabrus]

No, actually, I can.

[Paul W. Downs]

I gotta order.

[John Gabrus]

I gotta order.

[Paul W. Downs]

Don't let him cook.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, don't let him cook.

[Adam Pally]

Best order.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

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[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I'm a very good order.

[Paul W. Downs]

I bet you are.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, Very. I know the menu up and down.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I crushed it last night.

[John Gabrus]

Are you looking forward to your exercise? Like, what's your relationship with your exercise these days?

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, I do think it gives me energy and I do like to do it. And yet one of the reasons I work out with a trainer and I think even working out with a buddy is does this, like, it does make me accountable because I wouldn't do it.

[John Gabrus]

Right.

[Paul W. Downs]

You know what I mean? I'd be like, I'm gonna do 15 or 20 minutes maybe, and then maybe not.

[Adam Pally]

Are you a morning guy? Are you?

[Paul W. Downs]

No, no, I'm an owl, not a lark. Yeah, but I. Well, I do it in the morning because I have to. But I'm not a morning guy.

[Adam Pally]

Right.

[Paul W. Downs]

I do do it.

[John Gabrus]

This is my exact match. I cannot. I do not like waking up early. But if I don't do it in the morning, there's almost. It's immediately. Every hour I wait to do it, the percentage of it actually occurring goes down.

[Adam Pally]

Like, of course, yeah, I can get it in. Like, I've become accustomed to getting it in wherever, but I prefer if I'm up. It's like, I do it. Yeah, just do it. Just go for an hour. Just, like, get it over with, you know?

[Paul W. Downs]

Feel good when you do it.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, you said the old man thing, too. Because we're not talking about how we look or like. Or how much we bench. It is the kind of like the old man thing of, like. Like. Well, honestly, I just feel better when I have. Yeah, You. When you're young, you're like, hear people talk about runners high and. And you're like this.

[Paul W. Downs]

I still don't get that. I gotta tell you, I actually don't get runner's high. I'm like, huh?

[Adam Pally]

I've tried.

[John Gabrus]

It's exercise.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, I guess, sure.

[Adam Pally]

I've tried to get high every which way.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John Gabrus]

You're doing whippets on the treadmill every morning.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, that's fun.

[Adam Pally]

But I know that those are what's

[John Gabrus]

getting me high, Bro, have you tried this runner's eye? Dude, that's galaxy gas.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, my God.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, no, I. I like to run, but never felt a runner's high. Like, I enjoy running. I like, like putting in miles.

[Paul W. Downs]

You do?

[Adam Pally]

Oh, yeah. I get, like, in a Zen space. I can, like, especially when it's nice out outside. Like, I can really dig in.

[John Gabrus]

And you might accidentally be describing runner's high, too. Yeah, you know, like, it might not. It might not hit for, like, people who do drugs might not feel. Yeah, I think runners. Yeah, I would say you have a high tolerance for getting high.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Yeah, right.

[John Gabrus]

Wait, this doesn't feel as good as when I do fucking dmt.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, no shit.

[John Gabrus]

It's still running.

[Adam Pally]

You know what?

[Paul W. Downs]

You're right.

[Adam Pally]

I'm killing the drug marathon.

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[Adam Pally]

Yeah, it's Zevia Creamy Root Beer.

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[Adam Pally]

Nah, Zevia doesn't have sugar or fake like other sodas.

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[Adam Pally]

Here, try one.

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[John Gabrus]

No?

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[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Are you getting it in? Like, how do you. How does it change for you when you're like, in Vegas shooting or in Paris shooting? Like, are you. Are you one of those that's like, no matter what, I'm up and I'm doing it, or are you one of those. It's like, you know, we're in Paris, whatever.

[Paul W. Downs]

No, I'm trying to do it. I am trying to do it when I'm there. But it depends on the. It honestly depends on the hotel. Like, if there's a good gym, you

[John Gabrus]

know, it feels it's an ultimate victory if you get a lift or a jog in on vacation or on, like, even road gigs. Like you traveling. Like, we.

[Capital One Announcer]

We.

[John Gabrus]

You travel too much for work to be like, when I travel for work, I don't exercise. Like, that's just impossible if you're gone eight weeks out of the year or whatever. It's like. But when you do it, it does make you feel like you're a, like Navy SEAL or a monk or something where you're like, yeah, I know we're in Paris, but I did 100 push ups in the lobby or whatever, and

[Adam Pally]

they're like, sir, you have to stop working out in the lobby.

[Paul W. Downs]

They're very upset. Although you know what I've noticed?

[Adam Pally]

Do not disturb.

[Paul W. Downs]

The people in Europe are working out more than ever.

[Adam Pally]

Yes.

[Paul W. Downs]

I used to go and be like, no one runs. You know what I mean?

[Adam Pally]

If you go to Italy, run clubs in Paris, like, I've.

[Paul W. Downs]

People are working out all over the place. Everyone's great. It's crazy.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. In, in, in.

[John Gabrus]

How do you run in black pants and a black leather jacket and a beret?

[Paul W. Downs]

I don't know. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And you can't. You can't communicate with them because you're like, excuse, I'm walking here.

[John Gabrus]

The amount of people, and they're like running with cigarettes.

[Adam Pally]

They're doing ropes, and a lot of them aren't even moving. They're just running a marathon.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, exactly. But you still burn.

[Adam Pally]

And they're shredded.

[Paul W. Downs]

You burn in place.

[Adam Pally]

Shredded mime.

[Paul W. Downs]

I've never. I've never seen a mime out of shape, have you?

[John Gabrus]

I've never seen a fat.

[Adam Pally]

You talk with your body.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah. And the horizontal stripes wouldn't look good.

[Capital One Announcer]

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[John Gabrus]

Michelle Marcel told me when I tried to study with them.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, really?

[John Gabrus]

I'm sorry, but there are no fat mimes.

[Paul W. Downs]

You can do this. But we have a regiment.

[John Gabrus]

Also gamers. I've never seen you not talk for 30 seconds. Are you sure you want to be a mime?

[Adam Pally]

It is Monk like.

[Paul W. Downs]

But, yeah, I try and do it when I go. But, you know, I'm also like, it's probably 20% of what I actually would do, you know, But I've started to learn that, like, even if you do 20 minutes, I'm like, that's enough. Enough. Just give yourself a little bit of a.

[John Gabrus]

You know, this is the staying alive mantra. Something is better than nothing. Sure, get in your own. Especially if you're like, a person who likes to work out. You're like, well, I'm not gonna get a full hour to do back and body.

[Paul W. Downs]

Right. Right.

[John Gabrus]

What am I gonna do? I might as well just do nothing. And then you're like, you could easily do that for, like, eight days in a row and calcify.

[Paul W. Downs]

Totally. I think if you just do. You do lateral flies, guys. That's it. You just do that and then you're done and it's okay. Like, you're.

[Adam Pally]

You know, I don't even have lateral flies in my. In my rotation.

[Paul W. Downs]

You don't? No.

[John Gabrus]

You should do.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, they're like. They're like. Like my number one thing, really.

[Adam Pally]

I'm on squats.

[Paul W. Downs]

I hate doing legs. I do.

[Adam Pally]

I do them, but everybody says that, like, squats are the full body, like, sure thing. And I. You know, for someone who's in a hotel, it's like, I know I can get in those squats.

[Paul W. Downs]

Totally. Yes.

[Adam Pally]

Squats, Push ups. That's kind of where I'm at.

[Paul W. Downs]

You know, you see these people on Instagram who are like, all you need to do is these four things, and you're going to look like crazy like this. And it's, like, so insane. But I am like, well, do those four things.

[John Gabrus]

Every one of those people is lying. It's so.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah. And they're online.

[John Gabrus]

All I do is do this breath. And you should never, never think that. Look at the app. I mean, I'm sure people know this, but you should never look at the efficacy of a workout based on the model's fitness level.

[Paul W. Downs]

I know, but it works on me so much, too.

[John Gabrus]

Well, if that guy with those huge traps does his shrugs like that, I might as well.

[Paul W. Downs]

I mean, have you ever had all I do for traps? You know what I mean?

[Adam Pally]

That's the thing.

[Paul W. Downs]

And it's like, really?

[Adam Pally]

Have you ever had an out of shape, like trainer or exercise class leader?

[Paul W. Downs]

No, I'll come to.

[John Gabrus]

I'll come to their defense.

[Paul W. Downs]

That's hard.

[John Gabrus]

There's an expression, a mechanic's car runs the worst.

[Paul W. Downs]

That's right.

[John Gabrus]

They're so focused.

[Paul W. Downs]

The cobbler's children have no shoes.

[Capital One Announcer]

Right.

[Paul W. Downs]

Or whatever. Yeah, sure. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

But they're helping other bodies.

[Paul W. Downs]

Their body. They don't have time for them.

[Adam Pally]

This is an industry that doesn't feel like that.

[John Gabrus]

No, no.

[Adam Pally]

It feels like you would. But I have a billboard for your. Totally. Yeah. I have been at a few exercise classes where like, the person I'm with will be like. They didn't seem like they were in such great shape.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[Capital One Announcer]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

That's. That's hard. Yeah. Really hard to be. It's like going and getting a facial from someone with really bad skin. You're like, huh?

[Adam Pally]

You're like, how does this.

[Paul W. Downs]

This is your business. What are you doing?

[John Gabrus]

Speaking of facial. Yeah. What. What are you doing outside of beauty wise pure lift? Because we. We're also into all, like. We're sauna people. I'm a cold plunge guy. We like love all that.

[Paul W. Downs]

I did do cold plunge for a while.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

I did it in the winter because we have. I don't have like a cold plunge, you know, And I don't go to a place for it. But when our pool was like 50 degrees, I would. I would get in for five minutes.

[John Gabrus]

Wow.

[Paul W. Downs]

And that was actually great. I thought that was great.

[Adam Pally]

Supposed to be amazing. I mean, there. We don't know if it's good or bad.

[Paul W. Downs]

We don't. Okay.

[Adam Pally]

We don't.

[Paul W. Downs]

All right. Good to know. You guys probably know more than me.

[John Gabrus]

Believe it or not.

[Adam Pally]

We've asked everybody.

[Paul W. Downs]

Really. We don't know.

[Adam Pally]

Okay.

[John Gabrus]

But I think even at. I'm at the stage in my life where even if it is psychosomatic, it's worth it to fix my psycho.

[Paul W. Downs]

Psychosomatic is. Is rocking. You know, Psychosomatic is very good placebo is real.

[Adam Pally]

A positive placebo effect. I'm in.

[John Gabrus]

Me too.

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Right?

[Paul W. Downs]

Me too.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, of course. So you're cold plunging. Are you?

[Paul W. Downs]

I take nad.

[Adam Pally]

You're the. The second person this season to tell us about nad. That is a.

[John Gabrus]

Those are in an IV or. No, you sometimes.

[Paul W. Downs]

But it's in a syringe. Guys.

[Adam Pally]

Really.

[Paul W. Downs]

I know. Should I admit that? Am I gonna knock out health insurance?

[Adam Pally]

No.

[Paul W. Downs]

Are they gonna deny me? You know?

[John Gabrus]

Wait, I'm on. I'm on. Zepbound in a syringe.

[Paul W. Downs]

Okay.

[John Gabrus]

Shooting up.

[Paul W. Downs]

All right.

[John Gabrus]

I'm shooting up weekly.

[Paul W. Downs]

Okay.

[Adam Pally]

And that's how I take heroin.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Heroin high beats famously the best way.

[Adam Pally]

You make a lot of sense. It's like, as someone who's hooked on heroin, it's hard for me to expect to get the same pleasure.

[Paul W. Downs]

Your skin looks really good for being hooked on heroin.

[Adam Pally]

You look. Thank you. I just got a facial, I think, or I rub my face in a toilet. Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

Something.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

Not sure, but it looks way worked.

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Thank you.

[John Gabrus]

I like. I like nad. These are the questions I really want to. Especially for people who live in la, because, like, that's the stuff that intrigues me. Like, all of a sudden, you hear from someone you're like, getting your blood. Like, Zoe told us she gets her blood lasered, and we were like, we got to know more about that.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Mr. Jones is having her blood pulled out, lasered, and then put back in. What? Yeah, it's like having a printer cartridge replaced or something. I don't know.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, my God. Well, she does look good.

[Adam Pally]

Like, how you gonna argue with that? So. But similarly, so.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

So are. Do you. Are you feeling benefit of a nad shot, like, right away? It's like a big part.

[Paul W. Downs]

I do feel a little bit of a jolt, but again, I don't know. Long. Although I'll tell you what, I am prescribed Adderall, which I don't really take. I take it as needed. And it's usually like, if I'm. If I'm in a place where I walk into a room and I'm like, why am I in the room? You know what I mean? Or I'm finding myself being really distracted in a way that it is impacting my day. I will take a little bit of it. And that happens, you know, especially when we're in production where you're over fatigued and all this other stuff, you're. You're driven to more distraction. So honestly, I take it very infrequently, even though I legitimately have adhd. But when I take nad, I find that I never. I'm never in a place where I'm like, why did I open the fridge? I'm not hungry. Why did I open this fridge? You know what I mean? I don't ever try this reach for that. I do think it's. I do think in terms of, like, brain fog, it is helpful.

[Adam Pally]

I gotta try because I have the most severe 80. I'm on Vyvanse, 40 milligrams every day.

[John Gabrus]

40.

[Paul W. Downs]

Damn.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

That is so wild.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Well, you seem so.

[John Gabrus]

And this is his energy. That means that.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

That's how hard that ADHD have you been for.

[Paul W. Downs]

For a long, long time?

[Adam Pally]

For the last like six, six, seven years.

[Paul W. Downs]

Okay. So as an adult, though.

[Adam Pally]

As an adult, yeah. But it's been an enormous change.

[Paul W. Downs]

Can I tell you guys will appreciate this.

[Capital One Announcer]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

So dorky. When I was in college, I was diagnosed. I was prescribed Ritalin. I probably had the best GPA I've ever had that I was so good at school. But I thought. I felt like I wasn't as good in improv. I wasn't as. I wasn't getting off the back line and I was like, I think I'm not like, you know what I mean? Not able to follow the fun.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

So I stopped taking it until truly a couple years ago.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, my.

[Paul W. Downs]

But I was like, I can have bad grades. I need to be funny in the improv scene.

[John Gabrus]

Relatable. And I wonder how much I mean relatable to. You know, I wonder how much that is your perspective, too.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

I don't know if that was actually true.

[John Gabrus]

No one would have even noticed that you were. But, like, if you're not feeling it in that moment.

[Paul W. Downs]

I wasn't feeling.

[Adam Pally]

There was a more negative perspective back then on antidepressants and of course, yes, totally ADHD medicine. And it was like, there. There was. I heard that a lot more back then. Like, aren't you concerned it's going to, like, take the you out of you?

[John Gabrus]

Whatever.

[Adam Pally]

It's like, I don't. I think it's actually the opposite to you.

[John Gabrus]

I think it lets you be okay.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

For me. But I have it so severe that I. If I'm not taking it, there are times where I will be talking to you and have to stop. Stop while my mouth is moving and go, what were we talking?

[Paul W. Downs]

Totally. I. Me too. I. I so get that. I'm like, what would we say?

[Adam Pally]

Because I'm. My mind is going, like, in 50.

[Paul W. Downs]

I know.

[Adam Pally]

And that is, like, not good for anybody involved. You know, it's not good for me. It's not good for the person I'm talking to.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Like, the whole thing is bad. So I've noticed since I. For the last, like, you know, grip of years, however long I've been on it, I definitely am more present and there and, like, able to. To kind of do the thing I'm supposed to be doing.

[Paul W. Downs]

Right.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. I don't understand the severity of ADHD and how it works. But I know that I can tell when you haven't been taking yours, you know, really like. And we're not like roommates, but we are constant collaborators and constantly talking. And I could tell that. Wow. Yeah. And I'd be like, okay. I think Adam, is everything okay? He's like, I've got to get my prescription sent to Florida. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

Isn't it so crazy how it's hard also? Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And so we were in production in Miami.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And especially in Florida. It was like really hard to get my, my meds. And we were coming not from New York or la, where. It's where I'm all Hollywood.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

You know, we're coming from Vale or something and couldn't get it. And the first two, three days of production, he was so frustrated with me.

[John Gabrus]

It was like, it was like having an off leash dog. Adam, really? Sit down. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Wow.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

Wow.

[John Gabrus]

Every time we walked into the hotel we were staying at, he had to go to the front desk to get another room key. And I noticed it on like day three that he. And then one. I. I've told this story on the pod before. One day we just opened the car that. The Suburban that we were being driven around and opened the car and like a dozen room keys fell out and I was like, Adam, I found all

[Paul W. Downs]

of your room keys.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I know I can't, but I, I'm able to like have a chill demeanor. Yeah, kind of.

[Paul W. Downs]

You do. That's what, that's what I mean. It doesn't seem like you're on 40 milligrams because I take. Yeah, seven. I. I'm like prescribe 10, but I take like, I break off a little bit.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, 40. I was at 30. This is a three. What?

[Paul W. Downs]

No, not three. 30.

[Capital One Announcer]

30.

[Adam Pally]

I was like, three. No, I was at 30.

[John Gabrus]

I went from three to four.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Capital One Announcer]

Wow.

[John Gabrus]

I chose it on my.

[Adam Pally]

My doctor said it had to happen now. No.

[John Gabrus]

I started taking 123 milligram pills every morning.

[Adam Pally]

I was at 3, at 30 for a while and then went to shoot a movie in London for. For a while. And they were. The way that the American health system is just so up that they were like, we can't write you a three month prescription for your Vyvanse at 30 milligrams because you've been taking 30 milligrams for however long. So we can write you one for a new prescription. So you either have to go up or down. And my doctor, a while, my doctor and I were like, well, you can't go down Right. Because if you go down and then go into production on a movie.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

No, you're gonna be. See, you have to go up.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And so then I went up and it's been like a year.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And I. I actually feel great. But it had. It happened because of like a. A weird insurance.

[Paul W. Downs]

That's so crazy.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. It sucked.

[John Gabrus]

I never been diagnosed. I do feel like what I have is possibly something like adhd. But I do fantasize the idea of, like, I take it and all of a sudden I'm like jamming out screenplays

[Adam Pally]

and

[John Gabrus]

I'm like, oh my God, I can actually focus on something. It's like, no. Your constant weed smoking and distraction is foundational part of your brain. Unfortunately, that's not like a medical.

[Adam Pally]

Well.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

People. When. When everyone asks me, like, do you feel like you're not. Like you're not as funny or like, do you feel like that? I'm like, no, actually it feels like I know a little bit better myself because not everything's happening at once.

[Paul W. Downs]

Totally. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

So it's like I'm able to cut through. Cut through a little bit better. Especially at work. Like.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Acting was. Was so hard. Wow. With the amount of ADHD I have.

[Paul W. Downs]

Wow.

[Adam Pally]

Because I. Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

You gotta focus on your scene partner and like, listen and react.

[Adam Pally]

You gotta react. You gotta. And like.

[John Gabrus]

And all the listening outside of cameras rolling too. Of just.

[Paul W. Downs]

That's the thing. There is so much distraction, so much going on. It is actually hard. I mean, you know, I know, like sometimes people are like, oh, doing theater is so much harder. You know, but when you're on a soundstage or you're on set, there's. There's 50 people around. There's things happening. There are sounds happening.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

That aren't picked up by your mic.

[Adam Pally]

Theater. I think theater is harder in the. The repetition of it. Have you done it yet? Like real a play? It.

[Paul W. Downs]

I mean, not since college. No.

[Adam Pally]

You should do one.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, I want to.

[Adam Pally]

You're.

[Paul W. Downs]

You're rich. That's what I. That's what I want to. You know what? We'll see. We'll see.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, No, I thought that too.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah. What do you mean?

[Adam Pally]

I did a play for six months and I was like, oh, I didn't make any money.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, sure, sure.

[Adam Pally]

Like this was a mistake.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I feel charity. I feel fulfilled and broke. Yeah, no, no, it's just. It's the grind of it. Every day is. Is the challenge of it. Cuz you're like, same thing every day. Every Day. The. The hardness of. Once you're doing it, you're like, sailing. You're like, I know what I'm doing here.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

When you're doing a television show and there's, like, a grip yawning.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And you're trying to get your, like, timing right.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

That is a challenge.

[John Gabrus]

It is. This. No one wants to hear people about how hard being a TV actor is, but one of my.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, I love it.

[John Gabrus]

One of the hardest things is.

[Adam Pally]

I could care less.

[John Gabrus]

One of the hardest things is when they're like, all right, you get your lines, like, great. And then, like. Like, the director's like, hey, if you can do me a favor, if you could just make sure you land here on. And you're like, yeah, no problem. But then the DPs, like, if you can actually lean heavy on your left leg, that would help me. And then the sound guy's like, you're moving your necklace so much when you walk. If you. And then the props person is like, can you remember which hand you keep your coffee in? And then all a sudden, there's like, a dozen more things, all simple, just human behavior stuff. But then you have to just put it all in your head. And then on the next one, you're like, sorry, cat. And they're like, really? Yeah. No, I know, I know. I just have one line, but everyone told me something to add to this take, and I blew, and I blew it.

[Adam Pally]

No, that's. That's.

[John Gabrus]

And you're seeing partners looking at you like, is everything okay?

[Adam Pally]

You don't know what a banana. You don't know how to banana.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, my God. Banana.

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[Adam Pally]

what are you gonna miss most? Directing, Acting, Producing, acting?

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, I'm gonna miss acting the most. Yeah, acting's the best.

[Adam Pally]

It's just you're a baby. You're a baby in the womb.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, it's so fun.

[Adam Pally]

It's so fun.

[John Gabrus]

It's you and you and Meg in particular are such a fun storyline.

[Paul W. Downs]

We have so much fun. I'm gonna miss her and, and, and our scene work and you know, I

[Adam Pally]

love your bits on the red carpet too, you know, like every time you do under. Right up my alley.

[John Gabrus]

I'm like, love that.

[Paul W. Downs]

That's nice. I'm like, is it overkill at the.

[Adam Pally]

No, it's. You gotta keep.

[Paul W. Downs]

They're so, I mean it's, you know, these shows are very self serious and it's like I, the first time we did a bit, having a bit, I was like, it's so fun. It's so fun. And everyone else is like, it's for even the people that are doing like the interviews on the red carpet, they're like, we get to talk about this. We don't have to be like, what are you excited to see? You know what I mean?

[Adam Pally]

And yeah, especially those red carpets are so infuriatingly demeaning of for everybody. Like you get there as an actor and you're in line to have your picture taken, you know, and you have to do It. Because you're like, I do want my picture taken. But you're in a line like, you would be at Disney World or something.

[John Gabrus]

Like, in that moment of giving the option, you're like, well, I'll just go sit down. I don't need a photo.

[Paul W. Downs]

If you had to do it many, many times, you're like, well, I could

[Adam Pally]

just go sit down, take my photo. A different thing. It's like, no, you have to do it now. So there's this waiting to be part of a show that you're not part of. It's. The whole thing is weird and awkward, and I feel like when you have a bit. You're just. It's like, don't with me. Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

It's like, yes. Yeah. It's a show. It's entertaining, it's fun. It's. It's totally different.

[Adam Pally]

And you lean on it and you're like, well, this will carry me through every awkward interaction where, like, Jeff Goldblum is asking me what I'm doing next.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. And you're. And you're in a pair. A pair, too. Which is so freeing as well. Like, if you have to be there, like, dressed as, like, a emo guy or whatever. And people are like, I can't tell if this is.

[Paul W. Downs]

What is this?

[John Gabrus]

Right behind you is Billy Bob Thorton. D. Dressed the same. And he's not doing a. Exactly.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, that's your next one. You got Billy Bob.

[Paul W. Downs]

We almost wore vials of blood. We were like, should we wear Vi. We were like,

[Adam Pally]

did you know with her that you're like, first scene, table read, you're like, oh, you and I speak the same language. We are?

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah. Well, the first day, probably on set, I mean, we. We based the character on an assistant that we knew in the industry who is, like, both really entitled, but also kind of bumbling.

[Adam Pally]

Yes.

[Paul W. Downs]

And so most of them. Yeah, a lot of them, honestly, I can say that it's safe. They're all like that.

[Adam Pally]

They come from Ivy League schools, most

[Paul W. Downs]

of them, or their Nepo or whatever.

[Adam Pally]

Whatever. How, however, they've been friended and friended. A friended A Friended. Friended. And they have this amazing education, and they may not necessarily want to be an agent.

[Paul W. Downs]

Totally. Right. They're just doing that because it's like, well, it's a job. I have a job after school.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

And it's a hard job. I was not at an agency, but I was an assistant. It's hard, you know, So I. We had written it, and then Meg's Persona Online Was kind of. She kind of did that like stuttery half talk, you know, like some of her stuff. Like, well, you know, I'm gonna damn do that. You know what I mean? Like, she had that entit and self assuredness, but also the bumblingness.

[John Gabrus]

We were like, it's kind of like high, low status at the exact time.

[Paul W. Downs]

Exactly. Which is really hard to do. You know, like some actors are like, well, they're always good at high status. It's not. You don't even want to see them low status. But she can do both. Yeah. So I guess when we. I then did a. I was doing a stand up show and she was on it and her standup is unhinged. And I was like, this girl is special. She's a performance artist. She is like, to call her a stand up is not even right. You know, like, she's. She's special. And then the first day on set, it was so easy. Cause she does a thing that you guys know when you're acting and an improviser. To improvise in the lane and do it right is really hard. Especially for someone like her who's never been on tv. And she was able to do it in a way that didn't change the scene. And it wasn't like, well, we can't use any of that. You know what I mean? She got better at it. There were some things in the beginning. Well, you can't say that, but.

[John Gabrus]

But we have to do another scene after this. That keeps the story.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But she was just. She just got it. And we. I think because we both tickled each other, it just. You know what I mean? You could just sense that.

[John Gabrus]

So you can see that in the

[Paul W. Downs]

show, which is so fun. We have so much fun. I mean, to Lucia's chagrin, I mean, we break the most, you know, we just. We have so much fun. She's like, guys, we have to go.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

But.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, that was a good Lucia. Yeah, I know. I love watching a guy do an impression of his wife and collaborators.

[Paul W. Downs]

Nailed it.

[Adam Pally]

Nailed it.

[Paul W. Downs]

That was new. Yeah, that was.

[Adam Pally]

How is Luch?

[Paul W. Downs]

She's good. Yeah, she's good.

[Adam Pally]

Is she dealing with this okay?

[Paul W. Downs]

She is. I think she has always said that today will be the hardest day. It's so funny. We're recording today that once it airs and it's out in the world, then every day will be further and further from the experience. And so I. She's very raw today.

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Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, yeah. I would think rap. I would think rap Day would be the hardest emotionally. But no, for not the director and the right. Because you still gotta live with it.

[Paul W. Downs]

We had so much more to do. I mean, we were approving things. Things yesterday that like BTS things that are going to come out, you know, like we're still doing edits and doing things and I mean, luckily we'll still have, you know, some events and things that will see the cast, but it's going to get less and less and today is like a big marker of.

[Adam Pally]

Are you guys all going out tonight or anything?

[Paul W. Downs]

We're gonna go to dinner, I think. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Nice.

[Adam Pally]

Where?

[Paul W. Downs]

Tower Bar.

[Adam Pally]

Really?

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, my favorite.

[John Gabrus]

Feels really good.

[Adam Pally]

That's my favorite spot.

[John Gabrus]

It feels really good to end a. Like for you guys. Like whether you wanted to do it. Like it's determined that this is the end of this show. You know what I mean?

[Paul W. Downs]

Not like we wanted it.

[John Gabrus]

Not like I hope we get to come back and then you don't.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Like the way it goes for most people who are creators and that's such a fun, extra powerful moment of like where. And we know this is the series finale going into it, which is such a. And I think as even a fan of tv, that's such a treat when that gets to happen. Because so frequently you're watching a season finale that you. You're like, well, that's maybe the series finale. We don't know and I won't find out till three months after this or whatever. So that's such a rich place to be in.

[Paul W. Downs]

And I think a lot of people write this way, but we always wrote so that the season finale felt like the series finale in case because that's what it's like now. You know, you never really know. But HBO was so supportive because we pitched this episode in the pitch. So we've always known what we wanted to get to. We didn't know if we'd be able to because honestly, it is a business and you have a Sammy. People are tuning in and watching and subscribing for it. So we feel so relieved and happy we got to do it the way we plan to do it. But it's very weird. It's very, very weird.

[Adam Pally]

You've also done with it one of the cool things outside of it, which is like you've. You've hit the highest of the highs of, of of the. The crazy big nights and rooms. Like you've been at the BAFTAs, you know, at the end. What's the crazy. Do you remember a time where you've looked around, and you're like, whoa, this is wild.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, we constantly. I don't think you're ever like, oh, whatever. There's Steven Spielberg. You know what I mean? You're like, it's crazy. I'm still like, whoa, this is nuts. I mean, weirdly, as you do it and, you know, as the world gets smaller, you, like, become more friendly with these people or people that are in other shows or, you know what I mean, that you see on the circuit, which is nice, because then it feels a little bit more like, oh, this is a fun party, because I kind of know this person I've met that. That kid's child, you know? But I. I think when we did, we were. We had like, the AFI honors are like a luncheon. Have you guys ever been to that?

[Adam Pally]

No, but I've seen the press.

[Paul W. Downs]

It's crazy because there's no press. Really?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

I mean, there's like, they have, like, house photographer from afi, but there's no press. It's just every great movie and TV show of that year, and people want to be like, hey, I watched. I loved it. And it's crazy. I mean, that was like.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. Having people you look up to come to you and say, like, the. The most. The only version of that I've ever really had was when we did the Creative arts Emmys and RuPaul said, I love your show.

[Paul W. Downs]

Okay.

[John Gabrus]

I kept walking around.

[Paul W. Downs]

Thank you, Rue.

[John Gabrus]

And we just kept walking like, that's the.

[Paul W. Downs]

That is the seal of approval.

[John Gabrus]

Yes.

[Paul W. Downs]

I'm like, there is no higher seal.

[John Gabrus]

They're a friend.

[Adam Pally]

Rue was my hair stylist on Happy Endings.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, my God. Right? Oh, my God.

[Adam Pally]

So. And honestly is one of the sweetest people I've ever met. And still, incredibly, there's like, three people that I always get emails from on my birthday, and it's Rue.

[Paul W. Downs]

That is so sweet.

[Adam Pally]

Weird Al. Weird Al.

[Paul W. Downs]

Love that.

[Adam Pally]

And Beanie Felt.

[Paul W. Downs]

Wow. Okay, good. Really good group.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah. Dream Blunt Rotation. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Dream Blunt Rotation.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Nightmare. Blunt Rotation.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

No, but that was be fun.

[Paul W. Downs]

That'd be fun.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, that was cool. Cuz it was like, you should get

[John Gabrus]

weird out to do a parody of one of your songs.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, my God. That is good. Or just a cover. Just a straight cover.

[Adam Pally]

I don't know what I'm going to do with those.

[Paul W. Downs]

They're great.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, no. I got to figure it out.

[Paul W. Downs]

Got to get an album going.

[Adam Pally]

I'm going to burn them, Put out

[John Gabrus]

a special where you play songs you're like, I don't know what I'm going to do with my song.

[Adam Pally]

I know I didn't play. I didn't play any songs in the special. Right, Right. So I got away with it.

[Paul W. Downs]

Well, now we gotta. We gotta. You gotta do, like, an arena tour.

[Adam Pally]

I know. The problem is I can't. No one wants to hear it.

[Paul W. Downs]

Well, you know.

[Adam Pally]

Well, what are you. Are you thinking? What's. Are you yet? Like, I got an idea for next thing. Are you. Are you, like, I'm gonna take some time. I'm gonna. I'm gonna travel. I'm gonna, like, what's. What's happening?

[Paul W. Downs]

We're taking. We're taking a vacation. Vacation. Our first one in a while.

[John Gabrus]

Smart.

[Adam Pally]

I love six years. And I love a dance vacation because you get picks.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, my God. Disgusting.

[Adam Pally]

You get pics on a dance vacation?

[John Gabrus]

Well, you get, like, multiple angles because you're friends with all.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Because you know, all the people that

[Paul W. Downs]

you meet up on the road, it's just us. There's not going to be that.

[Adam Pally]

You gotta be Darcy in the Caribbean.

[Paul W. Downs]

We invited Darcy to come.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Travis, maybe Dan, maybe we get Justin back to swing.

[Paul W. Downs]

They're not coming.

[John Gabrus]

They're not coming.

[Paul W. Downs]

That has to work right after. It's too hard. You know, he doesn't. Yeah. So funny to tell you who's coming and not coming.

[Adam Pally]

The. The. What's the. What's the. You have a vacation. A long one. Like a honeymoon.

[Paul W. Downs]

Very long.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Two weeks.

[Paul W. Downs]

Very long. Two month.

[John Gabrus]

Yes.

[Paul W. Downs]

We're out of the country for two months.

[John Gabrus]

You're right.

[Paul W. Downs]

Out of the country for two months. It was supposed to be less, but we're going to actually go and see. We're going to go to Roland Garros. We're going to French Open.

[Capital One Announcer]

Whoa.

[Adam Pally]

So fun. So hot.

[Paul W. Downs]

I know. And Lucia, you know, is a tennis player, so she is like. We were asked if we were interested in going, and I've never seen her respond to an email faster. She was like, absolutely. I was like, well, we do have an event that we're gonna miss. And she's like, and we're gonna miss it.

[Adam Pally]

You're both like, you have to check with me.

[John Gabrus]

No, no.

[Paul W. Downs]

I was like, we're going. We're all going.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, that sucks.

[Paul W. Downs]

So it extended our time because we're not gonna come back and then go again.

[Adam Pally]

Fun.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

It's so funny how badly I want to get a lot of work so that I can have a big vacation, but it's also, like, I guess I Could just do the big vacation while I'm not getting work. Like that feels like that, that's. But my brain doesn' need like the reward for hard labor.

[Adam Pally]

Like.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, I feel like I'm. I don't know, it's my. I feel like my dad's rolling over in his grave. Like really a vacation? Would you even. Do you know what I mean?

[Adam Pally]

No. I'm taking a three dayer after the kids go to sleepaway camp. Which is like a three day is like beautiful. A nice reinvigoration.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, but that's the thing. Actually do the vacation because I don't know about you, but I think that's when the best stuff happens. Or when, when I like think of the best stuff is when I'm like not. Yeah, they're not like think of it now. You know what I mean?

[John Gabrus]

There's no deadline, there's no email saying like when you don't want to hear about stuff is when you start hearing about stuff in a weird way.

[Paul W. Downs]

I was like, watch me book something. You know what I mean?

[John Gabrus]

Fly a fly home from Turkey.

[Adam Pally]

Lately I feel like I'm just.

[Paul W. Downs]

I would love.

[Adam Pally]

Lately I'm just throwing my audition tapes off a cliff. That's what I feel like completely.

[Paul W. Downs]

I just tape for the first time in a long time. I feel like it's so bizarre to. To do that.

[Adam Pally]

I tape once a week for another project that is a dream, you know.

[Paul W. Downs]

That's good.

[Adam Pally]

It's great.

[Paul W. Downs]

That's really good.

[Adam Pally]

I'm at a nice level jealous where like people will be like, put yourself on tape for this dream part. And you do it and you feel really good about it. Cuz you're like, I'm crushing this.

[Paul W. Downs]

Never felt that emotion. But that's cool. That's great.

[Adam Pally]

I've always felt that on a tape. Cuz there's no one there. It's like me and the tape, by the time it gets sent in, it's like. I grinded that.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, yeah. You.

[Adam Pally]

You send it in and then there's like. It's literally like watching a bird fly off the frequency. Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

It. It disappears.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Goodbye.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Did we ever hear back from that Nancy Myers project? She said she thought I was very funny. They're like, let's check in and then they come back. It's like it's in week two of filming right now.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

I could hear the recycling bin when I submit. I hear them click and drag it in like you know, like immediately.

[Adam Pally]

Did you have luck on your tape? What does that Mean, did you book it? Did you get called back?

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, I don't. I just sent it in yesterday.

[Capital One Announcer]

Man.

[John Gabrus]

Man, that must be a crazy head space to be in. Is like your show that you've been a part, like, dealing with and. And creating and working on for like seven years. All of a sudden you're also like, it's wrapping up tomorrow. And then you're like, hi. Literally slating Los Angeles, California, willing to travel.

[Capital One Announcer]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I can tell you it's do it after one season at every year. It's much easier to get right back into the flow.

[Paul W. Downs]

Into the flow?

[Adam Pally]

Yes. Because I do show. And then I'm like, I hope this comes back. And they're like, no, it's not coming back. And I'm like, great. I'm all ready. Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Let's get this.

[John Gabrus]

Build up a nice palace.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. But no, you've. It's. It's amazing that. That you've gotten to.

[Paul W. Downs]

It's crazy. I'm telling you. We say every night, we're like, we are so lucky. We. We do not. It is not lost on us how lucky. We are so lucky.

[Adam Pally]

I think it comes across in the work.

[Paul W. Downs]

That's good. That's really good.

[Adam Pally]

I. I don't. I don't ever take that from you guys. You know what I mean? Whereas sometimes in with talent, just because it's like, we know what everything means, you can be like, I. I don't know if I love this, Vi. Like, you guys never put that out. You guys always put out, like, we are working comedians.

[John Gabrus]

Well, I think it helps that you guys say. You say interesting things about comedy within your show too. I mean, granted, like, not everyone is permissed to do that based on their show, but this allows you to. To, like, voice opinions on comedy in the state of comedy, which I find to be really enjoyable. Like watching Hacks and then the Comeback, newest season, back to back, I was like, yeah, AI throw ax into a data center on Smart. And almost said, Phoebe. He's a good drone. Ursula's twin sister.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, my God. Ursula. That's so funny.

[Adam Pally]

Ursula from Ursula from Mad about you.

[John Gabrus]

I had a.

[Adam Pally]

That's where Ursula was interested, right?

[Paul W. Downs]

That's right. Yeah. Oh, my God.

[Capital One Announcer]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

That's some nerdy.

[Paul W. Downs]

That was good. That was good.

[Adam Pally]

Thank you. So are you.

[John Gabrus]

I had a smelly cat T shirt in high school.

[Paul W. Downs]

Did you?

[Adam Pally]

Wow.

[John Gabrus]

My aunt bought it for me because my aunt called me Chandler Bang. My whole life.

[Paul W. Downs]

I get that. I can see that.

[John Gabrus]

I was just like, that Was also the funny brunette white guy.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Gabrus]

So if I was the funny person in my family they didn't have like my aunt didn't know who like John Candy was or something.

[Paul W. Downs]

Right, right, right, right, right. I was well everyone to be Chandler of our generation. Right? I did.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Everyone wanted to be Chandler. I always got made Schwimmer.

[Paul W. Downs]

Okay.

[John Gabrus]

Really? Well I was more in Joey territory in my head in real life.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Like you're a handsome like. Yeah, yeah. You're not you, you. You harness.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, no, I. Yeah, no I put

[John Gabrus]

it in a harness and swimmer is just you being self anti Semitic. Because honestly you might be Monica.

[Adam Pally]

Wow.

[Paul W. Downs]

Incredible.

[John Gabrus]

Might be Ms. Monica Geller.

[Adam Pally]

Maybe I'm Jen.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh that now that's. Everyone wants to be Chandler. Everyone wants to be Rachel.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, maybe. How hard are your new.

[John Gabrus]

On a daily basis. That was like foundational for.

[Paul W. Downs]

I wish mine were harder. I'm always like I just remember being

[John Gabrus]

a kid and being like this is just on tv. Like I could picture her green sweater.

[Adam Pally]

She was always like pulling a turkey out of the fridge to start a scene.

[John Gabrus]

She had her like that was why don't you make a snow.

[Adam Pally]

It was always a thing

[John Gabrus]

just keeping her cold. Guys. CR. Well, we know what kind of pieces of. We're in the writers room now.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

So are you two months coming back?

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Starting like you. You guys in an overall?

[Paul W. Downs]

We are. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

So that means that you don't have to do anyway. Well are. They're not going to put you on a room right? They're not going to like.

[Paul W. Downs]

No.

[Adam Pally]

Put you on someone else's show?

[Paul W. Downs]

No, I don't think so. So. But we're you know, we're crazy and I think part of the coping with it ending is we've already gone on a a little research trip for our next thing.

[Capital One Announcer]

Oh.

[Paul W. Downs]

Jen Lucci and I already went and like so we are. But we're. But the hope is and it's not picked up. It's just development right now. But the hope is to do a limited because it would be a nice palate cleanser to do something after that isn't like we're launching another series which my God, wouldn't it be amazing if we got to do a series that had five seasons but that's a marathon so it's a little bit bit like you know, we get to do this thing. It's a little more contained.

[John Gabrus]

Figure it out, flex a different muscle.

[Paul W. Downs]

It's a different. It's a tone shift. Yeah. So that's so cool. That feels like the right thing. But we'll see.

[Adam Pally]

That's awesome.

[John Gabrus]

We heard some work goals. We heard some vacation goals. Do you have any personal fitness or health goals or at least aspirations or events or something you want to do?

[Paul W. Downs]

Health and fitness. Personal health and fitness. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Because that's where my brain goes sometimes, too. When I finally have, like, when I'm past something, I'm like, oh, you know what? I'm gonna enter in a 10k or I'm gonn. I'm.

[Paul W. Downs]

Well, I'm going on this vacation, so I'm ready to get, like, round and brown. You know, I'm going to get tan and be eating a lot of pasta and tennis.

[Adam Pally]

You're going to play tennis? Tennis is becoming very cool again.

[Paul W. Downs]

It is cool. I don't really play, and Lucia doesn't want to play with me because she's so good. It's just frustrating for her. You know, she plays with bsj. They play together because he's quite good. So there are people that. Like Brandon Scott Jones.

[John Gabrus]

Yes. We got. Put him on the list. We got to get people on the list.

[Paul W. Downs]

He'd be great. He'd be excellent.

[Adam Pally]

What about stats?

[Paul W. Downs]

Better than me is.

[Adam Pally]

What about stats? How she's holding up?

[Paul W. Downs]

She's good. She's. She's playing a lobotomy. I don't know if she's going to go through with it, but she's like, I need to go to Arkham Asylum. I need a lobotomy.

[John Gabrus]

Why so serious?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Talk about joker energy.

[John Gabrus]

Stats. Every good production team needs one joker.

[Paul W. Downs]

That's right.

[Adam Pally]

Of course.

[Paul W. Downs]

Right? That's right.

[Adam Pally]

Without me, there's no you. Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah. And that is true. But she might. She might come on vacation with us a little bit.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, cool.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah, a little bit.

[Adam Pally]

You guys are living.

[John Gabrus]

Adam and I just sitting here going.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

So two months.

[Paul W. Downs]

Hey, you want to come? You guys are welcome.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, yeah. I wasn't gonna say anything.

[Adam Pally]

I don't know. I'll be in London. We've got a house close to France.

[Paul W. Downs]

It is close. It is close. We're gonna be in Italy for a month, so.

[Adam Pally]

Now you're speaking my linguine.

[Paul W. Downs]

That's right. I know. Well, we almost made a movie there.

[Adam Pally]

Really? You and I. Yeah. I still want to make that movie.

[Paul W. Downs]

Amazing.

[Capital One Announcer]

Really? Yes.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yes, I know it's a great movie.

[Adam Pally]

No, I really want to make a movie, and I, more than anything, anything, want. I just want to work with you guys. I. I email. I email Lucia two times a Year saying please direct me in something.

[Paul W. Downs]

Well, she would love to. I know she loves you both.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

Very big fans, Luchi, and as do

[Adam Pally]

I, as big fans of both.

[John Gabrus]

And you know she loves you guys. She told me I had to do this show.

[Adam Pally]

No, she told me she was too raw.

[Paul W. Downs]

She approves all my podcasts and I. I was not allowed to do any. Except for this one. One other one.

[Adam Pally]

And you're doing a tennis one episode. No, we love you long time and.

[John Gabrus]

And we've been saying that for years.

[Adam Pally]

I've been saying that since we finally

[John Gabrus]

got rid of the accent.

[Paul W. Downs]

That's good. That's a pretty good. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Proud of myself.

[John Gabrus]

Good work.

[Adam Pally]

Kept out of my pocket for 45.

[Paul W. Downs]

Really good. Really good.

[John Gabrus]

Well, thank you so much, Paul. We appreciate you coming on and love you guys. Congratulations. And if. I mean, by the time you're watching this, the Hacks series finale has come out.

[Paul W. Downs]

That's right.

[John Gabrus]

If you haven't watched the show show at all, binge that shit.

[Adam Pally]

Are you gonna be a thing? Are you doing any more HBO panels this week? Because I have one tomorrow.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, you do?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

What is it?

[Adam Pally]

It's for the stand up.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Are you done with that?

[Paul W. Downs]

I'm done. I think I'm done.

[Adam Pally]

Nice. I think I'm done because I really dreading a panel.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, really? You'd be great on a panel.

[John Gabrus]

I joined the Real HBO Real Sex panel tomorrow, which I'm kind of nervous about. I guess I have to wear clown makeup.

[Paul W. Downs]

Funny. Bring back HBO Real Sex.

[John Gabrus]

I would love to host Real Sex.

[Paul W. Downs]

Amazing.

[Adam Pally]

You should.

[Paul W. Downs]

Honestly.

[John Gabrus]

That was really good.

[Paul W. Downs]

That is.

[Adam Pally]

You should host Real Sex.

[Paul W. Downs]

I love that.

[Adam Pally]

And there's so much up going on.

[Paul W. Downs]

I know now it's great. There's so much more.

[Adam Pally]

So much more.

[John Gabrus]

There's so much more.

[Adam Pally]

Like.

[John Gabrus]

And I'm open to learning about everything.

[Paul W. Downs]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Paul W. Downs]

Okay. That's really good.

[Capital One Announcer]

Okay.

[Adam Pally]

Okay.

[Capital One Announcer]

Okay.

[John Gabrus]

I was just here, but I'm in Hbolilu's production company.

[Adam Pally]

I'm off camera.

[John Gabrus]

Talent purely. I'm off camera.

[Paul W. Downs]

You're there. You're there.

[John Gabrus]

You're in the cage.

[Paul W. Downs]

You're in the cage.

[John Gabrus]

You call me talent on set. I'm cranking it, but I'm not on camera.

[Paul W. Downs]

Oh, my God. Okay, let's do it.

[John Gabrus]

Paul Downs, Real Sex take. You're so good at it.

[Paul W. Downs]

Really good. Really good. Oh, my God.

[Capital One Announcer]

Awesome.

[Adam Pally]

Thanks, Paul.

[Paul W. Downs]

Thank you, guys.

[John Gabrus]

Brother, good luck with whatever way more important you're doing today. Dude, are we allowed to take a two month Vacation after we record three episodes of Staying Alive. Because I want to go away for two months with you, dude. I wanna.

[Adam Pally]

You know what is so nice about, like, I don't.

[John Gabrus]

I.

[Adam Pally]

My mind doesn't work the way that our guests do sometimes. And it's so nice to talk to people and just see how their mind, how they live life. And it's like, this guy's worked so hard. He put out arguably one of the best comedic TV shows of all time. And in his mind, he's like, you know what? I'm gonna take two months off and take my family to Italy and. And that's what I'm doing. I. I don't have to apologize for it. I'm just gonna do it and, and live in it and whatever.

[John Gabrus]

It's low key. Like, one of the fun side effects of this show is just being open to from people who are our friends, but hearing more and more from them and like, interesting perspectives, and I was just like, fuck, yeah. I got to set it up where I'm in a. In the headspace that I deserve a two month vacation, you know?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. But I think what he's saying is kind of like, you got to just do it.

[John Gabrus]

You got to just pull it.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. You got to pull a trigger. Like, you. You want to go to Italy, go to Italy. If you get called for a job, you come back.

[John Gabrus]

Right. And. Or if like two months in Italy is not. You didn't just do five seasons of a TV show. So two months in Italy is not. But you want two months, months off. You scale that down and you figure

[Adam Pally]

out how you do that.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. You just make it work. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. That's really like, I just met this

[John Gabrus]

guy I shot an indie movie with, like three months ago. I saw him again last night for the first time, and he was like, I moved to Mexico City. I'm like, what? He's like, yeah, it's not a crazy flight to come in when I get some work or whatever. But he's like, it's great there. It's a little cheaper. The culture is really interesting. And I'm like, I. And I know there are a lot of people who do that, but when you just hear from someone, like, and you're like, oh, I've never even considered that as a possibility. And whether or not it makes any sense for me, it's very fun to hear these other perspectives on, like, how to live outside of our jobs too.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, no, Stay alive.

[John Gabrus]

Fuck. You have been listening to Staying Alive with John Gabris and Adam Pali A Smartless Media production in association with Sirius

[Adam Pally]

xm Produced by Devin Torres Bryant and Anne Harris. Engineered and edited by Devin Tory Bryant, who also wrote the music.

[John Gabrus]

Associate producer and video producer is Matty McCann, social media producer Tommy Galgano, assistant engineer Kyle McGraw.

[Adam Pally]

Special thanks to Jared O' Connell at SiriusXM.

[John Gabrus]

Executive producers are John Gabris, Ooh me. Adam Pally, ooh you Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Richard Corson, and Bernie Kaminsky. Do us a favor. Just rate and review the podcast. It actually helps.

[Adam Pally]

Just so everyone knows we do not

[John Gabrus]

have a discord, don't reach out to us.

[Adam Pally]

See us on the street. Walk the other way or you'll catch hands.

[Paul W. Downs]

Your song about Everything's a Hundred Dollars is so I think about it every day now. Every time I go to the house, I'm like, it's $100.

[Adam Pally]

I know.

[Paul W. Downs]

I'm like, I'm parking at a meter. It's $100. You know what I mean? Like two hours is a hundred dollars. It's really everything's a hundred dollars.

[Adam Pally]

At least. At least I know.

[John Gabrus]

Smart medium.

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