The Funniest Guy At The Cooling Tower (w/ Sean Clements)

Summary

Staying Alive – "The Funniest Guy At The Cooling Tower" (with Sean Clements)

Podcast: Staying Alive with Jon Gabrus & Adam Pally
Guest: Sean Clements
Release Date: February 5, 2026
Network: SmartLess Media

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Episode Overview

In this candid and hilarious episode, Jon Gabrus and Adam Pally reconnect with their longtime friend and fellow comedian Sean Clements (Hollywood Handbook, Making History). They reflect on two decades of friendship, the realities of health and wellness in middle age, the complexities of addiction and sobriety, and their respective journeys in comedy. The group dives deep into the strange intersections of professional success, personal demons, and practical health routines—while reliving classic behind-the-scenes stories and bits from their shared past.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter & Friend Dynamics

• Checking in with Old Friends
  • The hosts talk about how podcasting lets them reconnect with old friends, including Sean (00:09-01:28).
  • Adam: "When we met Sean in ‘05, he had already lived a kind of life that … I didn't know a lot of people who did." (01:05)

2. Weight Loss Journeys & GLP-1 Drugs

• Sharing Their Experiences

  • Adam and John discuss their trials with weight loss medications (like Wegovy, Mounjaro), side effects, and the psychological impact (03:00-06:17).
  • Adam: “I’m not feeling the fuller sooner vibe as much as I’m feeling full for the first time in my life.” (03:09)
  • They share weight updates and milestone victories, celebrating being under 300 pounds for Adam and under 200 for John (04:31-06:03).

• Changing Relationships with Food & Drinking

  • Both comment on how their approach to eating and drinking has shifted: "The power of feeling bad is stronger than the pull of the food." – John (03:39)
  • They recount moments of turning down drinks and leaving leftovers—a significant change from their "no wounded soldiers" 20s (08:02).

3. Addiction, Sobriety, and Mental Health (w/ Sean Clements)

• Sean’s Honest Account of Addiction

  • Sean opens up about being a drug addict and his experience getting sober just before entering the comedy scene (15:47-16:23).
  • “I felt socially extremely uncomfortable… drugs and alcohol… I feel like I can talk to people, I feel like I’m being funny. … That led to wanting to die.” — Sean (16:29-17:11)

• Coping & Finding Comedy as a Lifeline

  • Discusses therapy, inpatient recovery, and finding improv as a "safer addiction" (21:29-25:55).
  • “Long-form improv, which I found close to a year in, in some ways saved my life.” — Sean (36:21-36:26)

• Humor as Survival & Connection

  • They riff on how being the "funny person" can be both therapeutic and alienating, in rehab, construction sites, or with new parent friends (38:53-43:52).
  • Sean: “I'm not a good cook, but that doesn't mean I can't cook... make it simple so you'll do it.” (61:04)

4. Comedy Industry Real Talk & "Making History" Nostalgia

• Behind-the-Scenes Stories

  • The trio deconstruct the cancellation of their show "Making History," the emotional fallout, and the “dream job” that unraveled (29:41-33:42).
  • Sean recalls the unmade “Nikola Tesla at MTV Spring Break” episode arc, blending absurdist comedy with sharp writing (62:12-63:58).

• Camaraderie & Surviving Setbacks

  • Adam: “Mostly the one I’ve gotten to is, well, this is the thing that happens before shit really takes off for me. ... Well, from here on out, I’m cruising. ... Nope. Okay, hold on.” (65:11)

5. The Real Health Routine: Consistency & Simplicity

• Sean’s “Staying Alive” Answer (53:24+)

  • Twice-a-week, 30-minute Zoom workouts with his wife and a personal trainer (M+Power for Her, based in Kentucky).
  • Cooking 4-5 nights a week—simple, repetitive meals (ground beef, sweet potatoes, arugula salad).
    “On the weekends we might go out, but Monday through Thursday, we're always cooking in.” (58:56)

• Hosts Reflect on Food Habits

  • John: “I really only eat three things myself. ... We live in New York City—it’s like, that’s what we eat.” (57:37)
  • Adam explains the discipline of eating simply at home to make “fun meals out with friends” more special and sustainable (57:59-58:56).

• The Value of Routines

  • Sean: “When you cook the same thing all the time, you get better at it. ... And then you perfect it over the years.” (61:31)

6. Parenting & The Search for Meaning Beyond Addiction

• “Coaching my son’s basketball team... that's what I am thinking about at rest.” — Sean (52:18)
• Discusses mental "safe places," sports as healthy obsessions, and creating stability as a parent post-addiction (52:51-53:37).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On sobriety and the perils of moderation:

  “If I did that because of the way I’m wired...what I know is the other 29 days of the month would be me planning out... Like, you are not free from your obsession. You’re just in the state of withdrawal and obsession.”
  — Sean Clements, (51:03)

• On finding the right path in comedy:

  “The only thing I ever really think is: I had no choice. ... I found this thing and it was like, that’s the only thing my mind would let me explore to do.”
  — John Gabrus, (47:32)

• Absurdist Comedy Gold:

  Sean pitches the lost episode:
  “We got to get Nikola Tesla laid. ... You guys take him to MTV Spring Break, and through physics, he figures out how to surf the break perfectly and becomes the star-studded beach hero.”
  — Sean Clements, (62:12-63:58)

• On being the “funny one”—and its pitfalls:

  “My personality is unpleasant.” — Sean Clements (42:28)
  “The line of comedy and like a funny person is razor thin of just behaving correctly. ... We do it on stage, but when you meet someone’s funny cousin… it’s such a turn.” — John Gabrus (41:36)

• Coping with addiction in showbiz:

  “I think I have been freed from the phenomenon of craving, which… thanks to these gummies, something…” — Sean Clements (35:10)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:09-01:28 — Reunion with Sean; reflecting on old friendships
• 03:00-06:17 — Weight loss drugs, food psychology, and milestones
• 15:47-18:24 — Sean opens up about addiction and getting sober
• 21:29-25:55 — Therapy, finding improv, and comedy as a lifeline
• 29:41-34:42 — Stories from “Making History” and the rough side of Hollywood
• 36:21-41:15 — The role of group dynamics, “being the funny one,” and rough jobs
• 53:24-57:37 — Sean’s health routine: training, diet, and food simplicity
• 62:12-63:58 — The Nikola Tesla/MTV Spring Break lost episode pitch
• 65:01-66:19 — “Dream jobs” and professional real talk

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Tone and Style

The episode is equal parts nostalgic, vulnerable, and side-splittingly funny. The hosts and Sean share a relentless honesty about their health, struggles with food and substances, and the weirdness of showbiz. Their rapport is irreverent and warm, laced with dark humor, inside jokes, playful ribbing, and occasional heartfelt wisdom.

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For New Listeners

If you want a deep dive into the realities of health for comedians, an honest portrayal of addiction and recovery, plus a window into the writing rooms and green rooms of alt-comedy, this episode delivers on all fronts. It’s a celebration of friendship, survival, and self-improvement with plenty of laughs—and a few cautionary tales about Sulfur burps, overcooked sweet potatoes, and why sometimes, the key to health is knowing when to leave half a beer on the table.

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Guest: Sean Clements
Hosts: Jon Gabrus & Adam Pally

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“I became totally obsessed. I became totally addicted. … That became my new addiction and my passion. And then that led into … now I have a life.” — Sean Clements (46:13-47:19)

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Transcript

[Adam Pally]

Smart.

[Sean Clements]

Bless me.

[John Gabrus]

Old friend today.

[Adam Pally]

Old friend.

[John Gabrus]

Old friend.

[Adam Pally]

OG og.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. I feel like one of the nicest things about doing this show, besides that, obviously I get to see you and we get to work together, is that we collectively get to check in with old friends.

[Adam Pally]

Yes. Because of how long we've known each other and where all of our friends that we started with are now. They are good guests for the fucking.

[John Gabrus]

For the pod.

[Adam Pally]

For the pod. For the gristle. For the wheel of death that is this entertainment industry.

[John Gabrus]

No, but it's nice. It's like, I haven't. I haven't spent an hour with Sean in a long time, so it's nice. Yeah, it's nice to like.

[Adam Pally]

It's also nice to talk to Sean on a podcast that isn't Hollywood Handbook. Yeah, well, so we can have, like, a real.

[John Gabrus]

So that I'm not like a piece of meat thrown to lions.

[Adam Pally]

Well, of course, bring it up with him. But, like, when we Met Sean in 05, he had already lived a kind of life that we. I didn't know a lot of people who did.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, no, he's an Sean. Sean kind of came, even though he was quote, he's quote unquote, younger than me.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

In the comedy world, he came, like, fully formed.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. He came. Having lived several lives already, he came with a perspective, and he came and.

[John Gabrus]

He was like, all I need is a couple tools and then I'll be fine.

[Ad Read Voice]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And it turns out he's doing quite well.

[John Gabrus]

Better than everybody. Yeah, better than everybody.

[Adam Pally]

But before we get into Sean, I wanted to catch you up. I'm on. I just.

[John Gabrus]

The jab.

[Adam Pally]

I'm on the second week right now. I did my. I've done two. Two stabs.

[John Gabrus]

And how are you feeling?

[Adam Pally]

I'm feeling good.

[John Gabrus]

You go in the stomach?

[Ad Read Voice]

What?

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, I go in the thigh.

[Sean Clements]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

No, I hit the tummy. I have. I have a lot of space there. I have a lot of comfort, too.

[John Gabrus]

I suck. I mean, but I don't know why. I feel like the thigh feels, like, less painful.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, I don't know. I went. I went tummy, and it didn't bother me. It was my first time ever shooting up anything. It felt cool. I didn't know you had to cook zepbound on a spoon.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. And what do you do with the belt after?

[Adam Pally]

Well, that goes around my neck.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, yeah. Okay, cool. So we're doing it the same way you slicing lemons for a sir.

[Adam Pally]

But it's been. It's been a couple of weeks. I'M I'm dealing with the only side. The only real side effect I can feel is like that. The burps that people talk about.

[John Gabrus]

Sulfur burps.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I'm not getting the sulfury, but I'm getting more burpee than I've ever been before. A lot of like, you know.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

That kind of stuff. I am not. My shitting has been better than it's ever been.

[Sean Clements]

Wow.

[Adam Pally]

I think the people talk about the drugs, the GLP ones constipate you. And I think I was so far beyond constipation, you know, I'm like wiping my ass with like a fudgeing hairdryer. So with like the zepbound. It's bringing me back to like maybe where normal people. How normal poop is supposed to be. Like, I've like regained my morning.

[John Gabrus]

The power to poop. Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And I'm eating less food for sure. I'm not going back for that. Like, oh, I'm about to go to sleep. I better have like 900 calories meal, which I used to go for. So there's something psychological going on. I do feel that fuller sooner vibe. And maybe I'm. This is hyperbole, but this is how I truly feel. And I talk to my therapist about this. I'm not feeling the fuller sooner vibe as much as I'm feeling. Feeling full for the first time in my life.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, wow.

[Adam Pally]

I've never really ever felt full. I could always just eat more. I get sick the next day or later on that day, but I can always. And now I feel like, oh, this might kick my ass if I don't. If I have any more, you know.

[Sean Clements]

Right.

[John Gabrus]

You're actually. The power. The. The power of feeling bad is stronger than the pull of the food.

[Adam Pally]

Right? Yeah. When I'm starting to like understand what it does to me. And I also rolled into starting. I came off my a party weekend, my brother's wedding, like a October and November that was just chock full of travel and getting and bender. So when I came back, I was like, I need to lock in anyway. So before I even started my doses arrived. I was already. I took like a week off smoking weed. I was like back in the gym getting my. So then I started. When I started shooting up, I'm like treating it like it's ped. So I'm like, okay, now I'm getting the fucking juice. And then good news. I was going to text you this morning, but I wanted to tell you on here scale yesterday, 299.6 pounds. Oh, my God, dude.

[John Gabrus]

296.

[Adam Pally]

299.6.

[John Gabrus]

Okay.

[Adam Pally]

Still so under 300 for the first time in. Since we started the pod and maybe in two years.

[John Gabrus]

I don't see you going back.

[Adam Pally]

I don't. I can't go back over 300. You can't beat £300 and 50 something years old. Like, it just doesn't.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, you don't see a lot of that, but. Wow, that's amazing. You must feel, like, good.

[Adam Pally]

I feel good. I was, like, okay with myself trying on a bathing suit for my winter break trip. Like, well, this episode might come out after the holidays, but I got a big winner.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And we'll talk about the retreat when I get back.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, I want to hear all about the retreat, but I want to. But one of the things that you're talking about is. Is how you feel on it. And I. I recently. So I've been on it now, I think, eight months with a switch from one that was too intense to something less.

[Adam Pally]

You're on Mounjaro now?

[John Gabrus]

No, I'm on Wegovy.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

And I had my blood taken a couple days ago, and everything is, like, great. Like, so much better. Everything is.

[Adam Pally]

Hell, yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Is so much better. But my dad did say to me, he goes, look, it may not be working in the way it does for some people, which I think what he means is weight.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. But you've definitely even lost weight.

[John Gabrus]

And you.

[Adam Pally]

You didn't have a ton to lose. You definitely lost.

[John Gabrus]

But I am. But, like, I. There's a scale in my hotel room, which is like, they shouldn't do that. They shouldn't do that.

[Adam Pally]

Call ahead and take it out.

[John Gabrus]

But. But there was. And I. I got on it, and I was at. Yesterday I was at 188, which is good.

[Adam Pally]

Amazing.

[John Gabrus]

I'm under 2. But, like, a couple months ago, I was at, like, 175.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, okay.

[John Gabrus]

You know, so, like, something has kind of right, come back. And I don't see it that much in myself because I see myself every day.

[Sean Clements]

Right.

[John Gabrus]

But I also don't know, like, you.

[Adam Pally]

Just don't backslide as hard as you used to.

[John Gabrus]

Completely. Yeah, completely. I mean, I found it working even ways. Like, last night is a perfect example. I had a dinner with colleagues and friends, and it wasn't like a heavy. Because we were working. It wasn't like a heavy drinking night, but I probably had, like, two. Two drinks. Like cocktails.

[Sean Clements]

Right.

[John Gabrus]

You know, mixed cocktails. And that was it. And then got home to the hotel. And my key didn't work because it was in my pocket. Phone.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Can win. Can we figure that.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. Is there another system?

[Adam Pally]

Can we figure out fucking key cards? The amount of times where I gotta.

[Ad Read Voice]

Like.

[Adam Pally]

And if you're in Vegas, you gotta.

[John Gabrus]

Go back like a mile and a.

[Adam Pally]

Half miles to just be like, hey, Motherfucker, I'm paying 500 a night and I can't get into my own.

[John Gabrus]

And it sucked. I realized that I had all my bags in the. You know, and I, like, realized at the door. But then I went back there, and the guy was, like, fumbling with it, and the bar was like. Right. I could see the bar from the thing. And I was like, you know what? I'll have one more drink. So I was like, I'll be right back. I went. I got a drink, was holding it, came back, got the card, went back up to my room, unlocked the thing, took one sip of that drink, and I had already eaten dinner, and I had already had my other two drinks, and. And I just was like, I don't want this. Like, I don't want this. And normally what I would do in that situation is go, well, and throw it down.

[Adam Pally]

Clang it. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

And be like, I won't feel that. I don't know what that is. I just left it on the table and woke up this morning and felt great.

[Adam Pally]

Because our twenties was about leave. Leave no wounded soldier behind.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

There's no empty playcloud. Yeah. Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

You know? Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

And I woke up this morning and called you. Went on a run.

[Adam Pally]

Felt great.

[John Gabrus]

Amazing. I don't know if I would have done that if I slammed that, you.

[Adam Pally]

Know, like, you would feel, like, one layer grosser. And maybe that slamming that would have, like, you know, woken you up in the middle of night with a sugar head.

[John Gabrus]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

So that's great. I. I went and saw Wang Chung play To Live and Die in la Score. With. With former guest of the Pod Rogers. And I was like, I'm gonna have one beer. And I got a tall boy. And that's because that's all they sell at concert venues now, so you can. And then I got down, like, halfway, and I'm like, it's getting a little warmer and I don't want the rest of this. And I was like, previously, I would have just cashed it and thrown out the empty can. I was like, what do I care? I could throw out half a beer right here, and I still had 12 ounces of.

[John Gabrus]

You had a beer?

[Adam Pally]

High life.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

But it was just like, oh, fuck. And then my. There they, you know, there's some psychological studies and, and talks about it, these drugs helping with addiction and like. And as I told you earlier, of, of the last 21 days, I've only smoked weed. Seven of them.

[John Gabrus]

That's amazing.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, it's, that's crazy.

[John Gabrus]

That's amazing.

[Adam Pally]

I went to sleep a couple of times in my. In this weeks with no alcohol and no weed, which is like something that I haven't done in 30 years.

[John Gabrus]

That's amazing.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, it feels crazy. Yeah, it makes me feel like I am like I'm a try like an iron man, you know, I'm like, holy. I can't believe I didn't smoke weed last night. And I'm a middle aged man.

[John Gabrus]

I mean I'm impressed.

[Adam Pally]

I, I am, I'm impressing myself and I, I'm talk. I know that's one a person who would understand how hard it is not to.

[John Gabrus]

Because I'll say I, I backs. I'm backsliding. I bought a pack of cigarettes.

[Adam Pally]

No, dude. Yes. Oh, let's double up your fucking.

[John Gabrus]

Because I don't know why I did it. But like I had dinner with future guest of the pod, Ike.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

In New York last week and I bought a pack of cigarettes when we got downstairs and it was the greatest cigarette I have ever had. Like after I, I mean like I had like shrimp heads, you know, like I was really going.

[Adam Pally]

Well, you had to like finish the meal. Like a king. Yeah, like a king.

[John Gabrus]

I did. And then I had a cigarette like.

[Adam Pally]

A pipe with this.

[John Gabrus]

It was the amazing and it was just like digestive and like I felt amazing. Walked 15 blocks.

[Adam Pally]

Like I knew a cig was coming because you've been like talking about them a lot.

[John Gabrus]

And I came and now in my bag I have a pack of cigarettes. I have one last night. I like, I'm like, I'm. I'm backsliding and that's not good.

[Adam Pally]

No, this is like, this is not the backside you want look at Jay instead, you know?

[John Gabrus]

I know, but man, there is who was on the show and they were. Jerry o' Connell was like nicotine is actually a stimulant and like it helps you. I'm certain. I think it's like I don't do drugs anymore. And I like rarely. I don't really even smoke weed. I just hit my pen. Like I have no. Like if I smoked a joint I would be on the floor. You know what I mean?

[Adam Pally]

We gotta get you on the floor.

[John Gabrus]

I'm gonna fall eventually. I don't know, but it's a backslide that I would like to. We'll see where we are when we. When you come back from Mexico.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, yeah.

[John Gabrus]

I hope I'm not into, like, multiples a day.

[Adam Pally]

No, you can't be.

[John Gabrus]

It might. It might happen.

[Sean Clements]

It might.

[Ad Read Voice]

Oh.

[Adam Pally]

From that transition, let's transition to our wonderful guest, Hollywood Handbook Zone, Sean Clemmens.

[John Gabrus]

Everything's content, so we're gonna see.

[Adam Pally]

Film it.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, you too.

[Adam Pally]

Film it, Sean.

[John Gabrus]

You feel jacked? What are you doing, buddy?

[Sean Clements]

Well, I was saying to him, I said, should I. Should I pop? Because it's about health and stuff. Should I be showing off?

[John Gabrus]

We're all gonna do that. Yeah, we all. We're all gonna do that.

[Adam Pally]

We're gonna. We're gonna measure your body with.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, we have a whole.

[Adam Pally]

We have a fat caliber.

[John Gabrus]

We have a fat caliber. And the red light's gonna come out. Wow.

[Sean Clements]

That felt good to hear, though, that I feel ripped.

[John Gabrus]

No, truly. I mean, well, shape. But I feel like you're like. More like.

[Sean Clements]

She's been really, really consistent with it.

[John Gabrus]

Is it because no one's working? I. I saw my friend last night. I saw my friend last night for the first time. I was like, last night, he's yoked. Like, seriously, yolk.

[Adam Pally]

Like, he's always in pretty decent ass on here.

[John Gabrus]

I know he's lanky, but I. But when he showed up last night at dinner, I was like, dude, are you. Not drink. Like, what changed in your life? Because I've never seen you like this. And he's like, not working.

[Adam Pally]

Not working. And kids are all in school.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, not working. And, like, I was like, what, are you working every day? He's like, yeah, not working. But also, beep that name. Maybe.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, you want to sell your friends down the river? Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Biggest showrunners in Hollywood.

[Adam Pally]

Beat that name.

[Sean Clements]

I'm working.

[John Gabrus]

Well, I'm not working left and right. Sean, are you working left and right?

[Sean Clements]

I'm working, dude.

[John Gabrus]

I'm working. Look, I'm part of the L.L. bean.

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[John Gabrus]

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[Sean Clements]

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[Adam Pally]

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[Adam Pally]

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[Adam Pally]

Sean, we're stoked to have you come on and we're going to handbook you at the whole time. So what is this fitness thing?

[John Gabrus]

No, I hate. I would never do that.

[Adam Pally]

This would be an insane pay back if you and I just. I hate.

[Sean Clements]

And then you didn't finish the sentence. But they. But the rest of it was your show.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Your whole vibe.

[John Gabrus]

What's not tape. Don't hear what I didn't say.

[Adam Pally]

I like the show. I like your show. That I hate.

[John Gabrus]

It's exactly your vibe.

[Adam Pally]

I hate.

[Sean Clements]

I never do.

[John Gabrus]

No, I, I love it. That, that it's one of the funny, funnest, easiest podcasts to do in my opinion. Cuz you just know exactly what you're doing on it. Like sometimes when you go on a show, you don't even know you're like, are we doing. You're like, wait 30 minutes of this is improv. But we're also doing an interview about a movie I'm in. And then also the same time there's someone who's dressed in tinfoil.

[Adam Pally]

I like to do Hollywood handbook too, because it feels like I just got accepted into a private school. And these are my two bullies.

[John Gabrus]

That is welcome.

[Adam Pally]

You poor kid.

[John Gabrus]

Were you bullied, Sean? Yeah, I feel that.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. I think that's probably a common. Some of us continue to bully ourselves and some of us flip the script. I think I'm a little bit of both.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Verse. But they call me verse on Grindr.

[John Gabrus]

Shiny from Connecticut.

[Sean Clements]

Grew up in Connecticut. Yeah.

[Ad Read Voice]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

And you got a story. Like I don't want to. I don't know how deep you want to go in, in your child, but you had your, your, your, your story is legend.

[Ad Read Voice]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, wow. You lived multiple.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

We've now known you for 20 years.

[Sean Clements]

Like. Right. So it's like there's been a few.

[Adam Pally]

Chapters and there was a few chapters before we met you. Right. Yeah. And those are the chapters.

[John Gabrus]

That's a good. I mean we probably met you close to 20, 25 years ago, right? Like somewhere in there.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah. Like probably like 60505 or so. Yeah. 20 years at UCB.

[Adam Pally]

So.

[John Gabrus]

And without like being too vague, like how close to the like Sean we see today were you when you showed up? Because the, like, I'm being vague about it, but there was like a whole other Sean that we learned about through stories and chat and that you show up. Sure.

[Sean Clements]

I'm comfortable talking about what, you know, like I've talked about before on the podcast. I think you're alluding to the fact that I am a drug addict.

[John Gabrus]

Yes. Yes, I am.

[Sean Clements]

But I don't know.

[John Gabrus]

Sometimes people don't want it, you know, there's like no idea.

[Adam Pally]

He's talking about being. Playing tennis.

[Ad Read Voice]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

No, I'm talking about your turn.

[Sean Clements]

That was a big part of my life. Yeah. So when I first started at UCB in New York, I was. I think I started one on one. I was like just shy of like one year sober. So I was like, in some ways kind of like fresh out of the womb, you know? Right. Yeah. It's a new year because it was just like, oh, I'm like figuring out how to exist, you know, without my primary sort of interest.

[Adam Pally]

Right, right.

[Sean Clements]

And.

[John Gabrus]

And, and besides an interest, like a thing that helps you.

[Sean Clements]

The thing that made me comfortable. Right. I mean, the reason. And again, you asked, like, was I bullied? Like, I think that I felt socially extremely uncomfortable for like a huge amount of my childhood. And upon discovery of drugs and alcohol, I was like, oh, this fucking rocks. Like, I feel good. Like, I feel like I can talk to people. I feel like I'm being funny. I'm not constantly, like, self criticizing and judging and feeling like an outsider. Let me do this as much as I possibly can. And then leading to feeling like I actually can't interact without this. And then that leading to wanting to die.

[John Gabrus]

Well, that's like the, the.

[Adam Pally]

It's like, this is what's scary is that Sean finding all that stuff is the exact same path. You know what I mean? Like, I, I remember being like, wow, drugs and alcohol are what make life better. And then, and then I'm like, eventually I developed a safer relationship with it. But there's like, there's a, there's that path. We all have it. When you try something that's a vice, that's like that there's a reason people are addicted to these things. They.

[Sean Clements]

Oh, yeah, it's. And I honestly, like, I never, I think sometimes people like, if I'm at a dinner, people like, can I get a drink? I'm like, I don't begrudge anyone. Like, I, I loved it, but I'm like, why would you do that? I'm like, no, it was the best. I just, I could not safely engage with it.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Because it was just like, whatever. I crossed some tipping point where it was just like, once I started, I just like, couldn't shut it off. And I was constantly like, as you said, I was like, this makes things better. And I was like trying to like, optimize at all times. Like, I was just like, I want to feel as good as I possibly can at every moment. And then that led to, like, I basically never felt good.

[John Gabrus]

Right.

[Sean Clements]

Right.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. That's the turn. That turn is so quick when you're like, wow, this is so. I mean, like, sometimes for me, it's like, in the moment, like, red hot. Of, like, you take drugs and you're like, this is great. This is terrible. You know what I mean? It's like, in the moment, you feel that way and you're like, why did I. Why did I do this? You know what I mean? And all those things can be so emotionally draining on, not just in the moment, but, like, for a long period of time where you're, like, just questioning stuff and, like, thinking, why do I need this? Why did I do this? You know, like, living that scene in the trailer and Leonardo DiCaprio and you know where he's like, seven fucking gin. Yeah. It's like you're living that scene every day.

[Sean Clements]

Oh, you can have one or two.

[John Gabrus]

I love the cut, the jump cut, too, of him, like, throwing. Throwing the bottles out the window, the trailer door. And then they cut to him and he's crying. Yeah, he plays that. That. He does two things in that movie that are. I mean, he's. I safe to say, the most gifted physical comedian maybe of all time. Leo Dio.

[Adam Pally]

He's got it.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, he's really. He does two bits in that movie.

[John Gabrus]

That are, like, amazing. That bit and the bit with Timothy Oliphant where he can't get the line right is the most accurate. I'm like. I've seen people melt down like that.

[Sean Clements]

You are feeling what he's feeling. Yeah, Just like the. The magic of great acting. I'm there. I'm like, oh, come on. I know he's gonna fuck it up again. And I'm like, but don't.

[John Gabrus]

You're embarrassed.

[Adam Pally]

And maybe it's the relatability of that or it's to his talent, but, like, you'll watch, like, the documentary man on a Wire, and it's less upsetting to see a guy tightrope walk between the towers because it's more like. Yeah, don't get the line. Oh, yeah, that hits me. That makes my teeth hurt.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. Because I think it's like. I feel like those two moments, both back to the. They feel like what it's like to be challenged in sobriety when you're, like, constantly mad at yourself for doing it. Then, like, pushing through and not quite and being doing everything at, like, 75% well.

[Sean Clements]

And he does. He. He does in that scene in the trailer, too. Like, at one point, he starts drinking guy, which is like. That's the. Obviously, it's a famous thing, but that's the, like, shame spiral of it where, like, I drank so much that I did something that I feel bad about. And the only way to feel less bad is to drink more.

[John Gabrus]

Right? Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

And you just. Yeah, that's a really hard thing to break out of because it's like, you know, whatever. Like, yeah, I had a problem with drugs and alcohol, but, like, at the time that I found it, as I said, it was a solution to the problem.

[John Gabrus]

Right.

[Sean Clements]

So that it was like I was like, I have these other problems, and this is solving it. This is making this better.

[Adam Pally]

It's like bringing in wolves to fix the deer population.

[Sean Clements]

Now there's wolves everywhere.

[Adam Pally]

Park rangers and shit.

[John Gabrus]

So what did you. Did you. As you're getting sober and then you find comedy? Did you do, like, a lot of therapy? Like, how did you go into.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. What was that journey to fix the first part?

[Sean Clements]

Yeah. Um, you know, I. So I guess I was in and out of trying to, like, I had identified kind of finally, like, this is my issue. The thing I think is the thing I love is actually the thing that's hurting me the most. And then was in that space of, like, okay, I truly can't imagine life without this, but I clearly can't go on living if I'm doing it. So, you know, I had, like, a. I went to, like, inpatient, like, detox ward, like, psych ward kind of thing for a few weeks, and then. And then was in and out of, like, different sort of, like, recovery programs. But when I found comedy, I had always been interested in comedy. I had always, like, wanted to do, like, acting and writing stuff.

[John Gabrus]

And you're also supremely quick, so I assumed that you were, like, the quickest. Like, you were always funny. You were the funniest drug addict. Yeah, the funniest. I mean, that's not a shooting vision of Barrow funniest drug addict. But, like, you're sitting with the ice cream. I assume that you always had that in you because you are lightning quit.

[Sean Clements]

Oh, well, thank you. And then I take a long pause.

[John Gabrus]

I always think thought of myself as a quick wit.

[Adam Pally]

That's actually a very interesting question, Adam. The way I would answer that question.

[Sean Clements]

You know me, I go right at it. I don't beat around the bush. So let me just shoot you straight and tell you, for example, four different.

[John Gabrus]

Sayings connected to each other that make no information.

[Adam Pally]

Long story short.

[Sean Clements]

Does that answer your question?

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, I guess so. 100%. This guy's quick.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, I definitely even whatever in.

[John Gabrus]

In.

[Sean Clements]

Recovery, in rehab and just throughout my life with like all my drug addict friends, I was like trying to be the funny one and felt like this was something that I was good at. And you know, I'm sure you guys had this grown up people go like, you gotta try stand up. You should do stand up.

[Ad Read Voice]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

And I was always like, I don't, I don't actually don't feel comfortable with that. I always feel like I'm funny in response to things like that. This was my whatever estimation of it at the time was just like, I feel like I'm quick. Like I have, I can like respond to different situations in moments, in real time in ways that get laughs. And that's sort of the thing that I feel like I'm the best at. And then I was maybe, you know, a few months sober. I had been in and out. I'd get, you know, I'd get 30 days, I'd get 60 days. I'd, I'd backslide. I'd backslide. And then I was, you know, around like 10 months and I went into New York and I went to see my buddy Joe spellman do his UCB 101 class show.

[Adam Pally]

Wow, that could get you hooked.

[John Gabrus]

That got you excited.

[Sean Clements]

Well, and what I say about is like, so I had never seen long form improv, but I was like, this is what I'm talking about. This is like responding in the moment.

[John Gabrus]

Have you seen Whose Line Is It Anyway?

[Sean Clements]

I'd seen Whose Line Is It Anyway and we even did some short form thing at my high school. There was some event day where we had done, you know, had done Whose Line games and I like loved it. I love that show. So I was into that. But I hadn't seen the like sort of scenic, like, you know, real like the Herald version of it. And I went to see that show and yes, it was bad. I've heard a lot of people tell the story of like I went to see an ascat and I was like, I want to do that. I don't think I would have started if I saw that first.

[John Gabrus]

Right.

[Sean Clements]

I saw this and I was like, I'm fucking better than you.

[John Gabrus]

Like, literally I was like the best.

[Sean Clements]

Guy up there is a guy I know and like I can go toe to toe with the show.

[John Gabrus]

No, that's so funny because that's such a psyche thing specific to you I think too because it is, it's truly honest. Like seeing something so good sometimes does scare you away and your ego is unable. It's like gets in your way cause you're like well I'm good but I'm not that good. You know.

[Sean Clements]

And like you do it up on stage for people. Exactly.

[John Gabrus]

So then now you're limited but you see something as like pedestrian as truly a bunch of realtors like playing Zip Zap Za. Yeah, totally. And you're like oh I could do that.

[Adam Pally]

I'm on that exact path with stand up right now. I was like I can't do stand up. My idols, they're so fucking talented that I went to like 4 stand up shows around LA and I was like I could fucking do same thing if this, if this counts as stand up. I could do that.

[John Gabrus]

Those are all the comments on my special.

[Adam Pally]

Every single comment I was like I can't play the guitar but I think I could do Every single comment on.

[John Gabrus]

My special is play the guitar better than that. I can do comedy better than that.

[Adam Pally]

You're actually activating two awful parties. The people who think they're funnier than you and then the people who think they're better guitars. Now you attacked two annoying comedy throw.

[John Gabrus]

My Kill Tony stuff in there. I got it all covered.

[Adam Pally]

And if there's any anti semites on Internet maybe you know, they might find.

[John Gabrus]

It truly a hot rod.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, the comment section of your special might be a good like sting operation. Great.

[John Gabrus]

I.

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[John Gabrus]

There's like a Reddit of it that was like, has anyone seen. Has anyone seen Adam Pally Special? And then the first thing underneath was a picture of me from a Jimmy John's commercial with a thing. What happened? And then a paragraph of like, always thought he was funny on that one show. And then when he went to the Mindy show, always liked him. Now he's doing Jimmy John's commercials. Wtf? Like, and did you see this garbage? And it's like a picture of me playing the guitar. I'm like. I would be like, just say you.

[Adam Pally]

Don'T like the guitar, especially. You don't have to unpack.

[John Gabrus]

What? Where people can see this. Like, I'm like, I can see this. You know what I mean? It's so awful.

[Sean Clements]

But what did happen?

[John Gabrus]

I'm making history. You know what? I blame you. I blame you. I blame you. I blame Making History. No, you definitely didn't help because all those storylines were wagadoo. But I was going along for the ride. No, I blame. Really what happened the day we found out. I think about this a lot. Do you remember the day we found out on Making History that they were cutting our order?

[Sean Clements]

That the order was slashed from like 13 to 9?

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. And I lost my mind. And in one take, which was being streamed to Lord and Miller's office, I went apeshit about them doing some Star wars movie. Apeshit on, like, we were doing a scene and then someone's like, cut. And I was like, no, no, not fucking cut. I was like, where are the showrunners? Where are the fucking showrunners? Where they in fucking London? Or like, I got news for you, that movie's gonna suck. Like, it was like, horrible. I was like, going at it and.

[Adam Pally]

Then going Making History didn't get the credit it was due. I enjoyed that.

[John Gabrus]

I love that show.

[Adam Pally]

But you were ended up. You're vindicated about Solo.

[John Gabrus]

Yes, I was vindicated. They did get fired. But then I remember. So I'm like doing. I mean, I'm joking around, elate and doing with. With you and. Yes. And then I remember Goldie comes up and he goes, you know, they see the footage.

[Sean Clements]

I do not think they were in live time watching a stream of the.

[John Gabrus]

Making, but I do believe was like.

[Sean Clements]

Like there someone from there.

[John Gabrus]

Someone from there.

[Sean Clements]

Maybe somebody named Seth.

[John Gabrus]

I don't want to throw any names.

[Sean Clements]

Out there, but someone was definitely like.

[John Gabrus]

You might want to look at time code 405, you know.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, it's possible that got passed along as sort of a gem.

[John Gabrus]

I blame that. But no, I.

[Adam Pally]

So you know what I blame for the failure? My own actions.

[John Gabrus]

My own actions.

[Adam Pally]

Well, you know, that's very responsible.

[Sean Clements]

Well, but it was. But you were responding to a failure that was already happening.

[Adam Pally]

Yes.

[Sean Clements]

You were mad because we had had our order cut when we had just had one of the best table reads I've ever been to. I mean, partially because we were doing the tailwind inside a tiny trailer. So the laughter was like echoing off the walls.

[John Gabrus]

Well, it was also we had just come off our strongest rated episode where we, where we cast then unknown Tim Robinson.

[Sean Clements]

That's right.

[John Gabrus]

To play Al Capone with one of the funniest performances.

[Sean Clements]

Oh, and a really funny take on.

[John Gabrus]

That whole whole Al Capone character making it Tim Robinson. Remember when he was like, you little sweetie. And he kissed me. It's like every read was so funny and it was so funny and we had just come out of that and on top of it our ratings were good.

[Sean Clements]

Which was a bummer that hadn't happened yet. Like that that like at the time that the order was cut, we had not premiered yet.

[John Gabrus]

That's what I mean.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, that's.

[John Gabrus]

But that was so frustrating. It was like.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, I believed that the show had potential to be and it was going to exist in that like last man slot and that it was like a. A really funny, like weird creative show and that. Yeah, like stuff like Tim Robinson and the episodes that never got filmed that when the order got cut where we had a two parter with Fred Armisen playing Tesla.

[John Gabrus]

Oh my God, that was so funny.

[Sean Clements]

It was such a funny idea. Should I pitch out the whole show?

[Adam Pally]

Yes, let's fucking go.

[John Gabrus]

Goldie and I talked. I don't know if you talked about it, but there's an an. I was like, we should just do it animated. Keep that.

[Sean Clements]

Oh, yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Keep that budget down.

[Sean Clements]

I think that. I think that would definite still work and be funny and be easier to do. Some of the crazier ideas we had. Cause we were. Some of what was happening with that show was like every episode or every two episodes was a different time period. So they were completely changing the look of the show. And it was like that Capone when it was like, well, we're gonna do like this film noir, like, you know, like sort of whatever, like Chicago in the gangster era thing. And it was cool and it looked cool and the wardrobe was.

[John Gabrus]

I love those episodes.

[Adam Pally]

Truly.

[John Gabrus]

Like, those episodes are so funny. Peter Tencio directed them.

[Sean Clements]

Ye. Yes. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

And they're like action packed and funny and good.

[Sean Clements]

Like, well, and the idea was the.

[Adam Pally]

Time travel get zipped up in a duffel bag, if correctly.

[Sean Clements]

Got into like a gym bag. Tim Robinson was the idea that, like, we cast him into it, but the idea for Al Capone actually was we were way ahead of like the male loneliness epidemic.

[John Gabrus]

Yes.

[Sean Clements]

Because it was all that. He was just toxic because, like, he didn't really have, like, close friends that he trusted.

[John Gabrus]

And he liked me, and he liked.

[Sean Clements]

Me really liking Pal. Like, even him becoming violent was just like, wait, are you leaving?

[John Gabrus]

Confidant. I became his confidant. He likes me, so that's awesome. And then when I turned on him, that was. It was just the funniest line read I've ever, like, experienced in life. Because we didn't. It wasn't in the script. Like, it did say sweetie, but it wasn't the way it was, like, supposed to be menacing.

[Adam Pally]

You're saying Tim Robinson put a little sauce on a line. I don't know, man. I can't imagine it.

[Sean Clements]

It's sort of unlike delivery.

[John Gabrus]

Unlike him.

[Sean Clements]

We want to sort something remade. I think you should leave.

[John Gabrus]

I found it.

[Sean Clements]

Isn't that interesting.

[John Gabrus]

Tim doesn't. Tim doesn't like it when I say this, but I discovered him. I was walking by 30 Rock and he was sitting there with a bindle. Like an old hobo's bindle.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah. I don't know why he doesn't like when you say that.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, I'm glad when the making history order got cut, you didn't backslide into drugs and alcohol.

[John Gabrus]

That's a really good question.

[Adam Pally]

Throw a bottle out of your drink.

[John Gabrus]

That's a really good question though. And like, does that ever. Do you ever. What's the poll? Like, are you past that is that so.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah. I think I have been freed from the phenomenon of craving, which, like, you know, thanks to these gummies, something. I think that, like, whatever, to talk about sobriety a little bit, like, one thing is like, you know, once you go through whatever, you go to a detox unit or you sweat it out on your own or whatever people do, like, the physical aspect of it is gone pretty quickly. Usually, like, you're not. You no longer, like, your body's not craving, you're not in withdrawal. But that mental side of it is like the bigger piece of it of just even, like, you know, when I quit cigarettes five years after I had gotten sober, and it was like, every time I started my car, I put my hand in my pocket, pocket, because I was so used to, like, I start the car then before I actually start driving, I take out a cigarette and I light it. And so, like, there's all these habits and associations that you have, and that was like, obviously the harder part of it and. And for a long time tried to get out of it. I will say, like, I, you know, long form improv, which I found close to a year in, I always say, in some ways saved my life because I, I had gotten to a point where I could say to myself, like, with confidence, you know, I'm. I'm a year, almost a year removed from this stuff. I do believe that I can live without it. Like, I can go through my day and not use this stuff and not be like, constantly obsessed and pulled to it. But why? Because I was not. Not enjoying anything in the way that I had enjoyed, like, getting high and getting drugged. As much as it, you know, led to so much misery for me. I was like, I don't. I haven't found something for me. And you know, people talk about replacing one addiction with another and sometimes that's very unhealthy. But for me, I was like, took that improv class, was like, this is what I want to do. Took like two more right away. I was working at this job cleaning cooling towers. What?

[John Gabrus]

Wait, wait, wait, hold on.

[Adam Pally]

Yes, I remember this story.

[Sean Clements]

I don't remember the story because it's like you talked about being like a funny person in rehab, but like, I got into a 12 step program poker game.

[John Gabrus]

Okay.

[Sean Clements]

And I was playing at this guy's house. That's gonna be hard.

[John Gabrus]

A lot of liars. Everybody's like, like, you don't know what to tell and who's shaking.

[Adam Pally]

Everyone's like, I gave up pills, but what I did is memorize Card hyper. Focus on a new addiction.

[Sean Clements]

The thing people are. People are amazing at Scrabble and chess.

[Adam Pally]

Because that's what's in rehab centers.

[Sean Clements]

Yes. And. Well, and people who go to prison are very good at those games.

[Adam Pally]

Dude, like, I lifeguarded with a guy who would smoke everybody had a chessboard in the. In the shack, and he would smoke everybody all the time. And then he's like, you know, and like. Like, insert name here. You were so good at chess. And he's like, yeah, I had a lot of time in my 20s to play. And I was like, okay. And then like, loser. Once we got out of it, someone's like, yo, what? What's his history? They're like, he. A guy, like, jumped him and then he filed the guy back with a baseball bat and killed him. I was like, oh, the next time I'm playing him, he's like, getting mad at the chessboard. I'm like, what am I doing?

[John Gabrus]

You're like, you know what? I concede you. I don't see a move here.

[Adam Pally]

I. Mating two. You got it, bro.

[Sean Clements]

I knew so many people who had been in and out of that. But anyway, yeah, it was whatever. I was in this poker game and I was being the way that I am, and I kept making this one guy at the table laugh, and he was just like, what's your deal, man? What do you do? And I was like, I work at this dry cleaner. And he was like, how much do they pay you? And I was like, they pay me 10 bucks an hour. He's like, I'll give you twice that much. You can work on my crew starting next week. And I was like, all right. And I just made him laugh. And he was like, come on the crew. And he said, like, years later, he was like, I actually didn't think you were going to be able to do it. I just thought it'd be funny to watch.

[John Gabrus]

You did a good job.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, it was kind of a bit for him, but that was like, whatever. We'd get up. I get up at 4am and we'd drive to some, like, huge industrial plant with pressure washers, and we clean all this different industrial. It was like a crazy.

[John Gabrus]

Is that soothing? Because I always see those videos on my Instagram of power washing, and it does look.

[Sean Clements]

It's incredibly satisfying in the times that.

[John Gabrus]

I've done it on a driveway. Yeah, it is really fun. But I imagine the big ones are. Are harder.

[Sean Clements]

They're really, really strong. Right. Sometimes you would have, like, they had different tips. You put Like a zero point tip on it to like concentrate the stream. And I saw a guy shoot himself in the leg with it. And just like water and blood shooting out of a hole. Like, it was just like very. They're really dangerous.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, you can cut somebody in half.

[Sean Clements]

They're really dangerous. And you're working with all knuckleheads who are like, playing with the equipment.

[John Gabrus]

But that's all construction. That's literally all construction.

[Adam Pally]

I worked on a construction site one time where a guy was emptying the porta potty with like a hose, spraying shit out of it while he was eating his sand. I was like, I've never seen something. Yeah. I was like, this guy must just get adjusted to the smell of spray.

[Sean Clements]

We had to drain these things out with those, those giant sump truck hoses. And they would. We'd had a safety meeting like every day and it would be like, hey, if you get your arm in this hose, like you lose your arm, it's going to suck it out of its socket and all the blood will rush to your shoulder. And then you're like sitting there and you feel something on your leg and it's like, oh, this guy's putting the vacuum up. He's like. He's like sucking my Tyvek suit off as a joke.

[John Gabrus]

You're.

[Sean Clements]

You're like, carl.

[Adam Pally]

The one thing we heard today was don't do that.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

He's like, I'm sorry. Everyone thinks I'm the funny one.

[Ad Read Voice]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And a funny one around here.

[Ad Read Voice 2]

Yeah. Dennis.

[Adam Pally]

Dennis said he hired you because you're funny.

[Sean Clements]

I was actually. I actually like to joke around as well.

[John Gabrus]

I actually am the joke guy around.

[Sean Clements]

So let's just see who can do. It's a bit of a joke contest.

[Adam Pally]

Is that the realest, like, for like, especially with your partner, like, or you start dating, like, you're going to like my friend, so and so. They're really funny. And I go, and my head. I bet you 100% this guy is just an asshole. And he's like an absolute asshole. And people are laughing and you're like, this isn't fucking comedy. He just behaves incorrectly.

[John Gabrus]

Well that the line of comedy and like a funny person is razor thin of is just behaving correctly. Right. Like that. We do it on. Found it, but we do it on stage. We do it on stage. But then when you like you're saying you meet someone, someone's funny cousin or something and they're like doing it in. In person. It's such a turn.

[Adam Pally]

Shove you in the pool while you're like, anything like.

[John Gabrus]

Or like, anyone that gives you a ball buster. Anybody like that, you're always just like. But then we do that on stage professionally, and it, like, cathartically goes away. But when you meet the maniacs.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Who are, like, funny.

[Adam Pally]

I'm pretty much like a maniac that got lightly tamed.

[Sean Clements]

You know what I mean? Yeah, Yeah. I. I actually cite Gabrius often as an example of somebody who, like, if you. If he came to Thanksgiving dinner with your family, everyone go like, that's the funniest guy I've ever met.

[John Gabrus]

But his skill set should not be attempted.

[Sean Clements]

He meets. But he meets people and they think he's funny. And I really admired it, and I'm jealous of it because, as you guys know, my personality is unpleasant.

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[Sean Clements]

And I think.

[Adam Pally]

And when I. Sean's friends, and they're like, you. You're so fucking funny. I'm like, sean's the funniest.

[Sean Clements]

And they're like, dude, I've had to write my reputation.

[John Gabrus]

I've had to write, like, Mila Kuz Kunis style, Danny Masterson letters for Sean.

[Sean Clements]

As I'm, like, now, like, have, like, kids, and I interact with parents all the time. Like, I'm the most boring person in the world, and occasionally I attempt sort of a joke, and it's just like, I just cannot, like, I cannot find the line of how to behave or, like, no one.

[Adam Pally]

Sean. I am just having a field day picturing, like, the most normie parent people. And you're like, I'm going for it, so.

[Sean Clements]

And when they hear that I do comedy, they're like, what the fuck are you talking about? You are like. You are.

[Ad Read Voice]

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[Sean Clements]

You are so boring. And it's just like, yeah. And by the way, even doing this podcast, I was like, what am I. I'm gonna talk about, like, my health. Like, this is like, I can't.

[John Gabrus]

We're not really doing anything here.

[Sean Clements]

It's like, why Hollywood Handbook is what it is. Like, well, I can't have a normal conversation. I can either be only doing a bit right, or I can't even try.

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[Adam Pally]

Now it's time for the one question that we have written down that we ask every guest.

[John Gabrus]

And we have to write it down cause we keep forgetting it.

[Adam Pally]

I got two texts from Devin about it. Ask him for fuck's sake. You have one thing.

[Sean Clements]

How frustrated will people. I got a third of the way through. I think three different stories I set up that I was gonna pitch out. The Tesla thing.

[Adam Pally]

Okay.

[Sean Clements]

You asked me about improv, finding improv. And.

[John Gabrus]

And I don't even.

[Adam Pally]

Let's wrap them up. Let's wrap them all up.

[Ad Read Voice]

This is a good call.

[John Gabrus]

I don't think people. You're doing way too much for people.

[Adam Pally]

No, he's sober dude. He's keeping track.

[Sean Clements]

Well, so I sober right now when I said that. I think like log from a prophecy just to close. And I think we all understood. But I was on that cleaning tower crew. I told that guy I want to go take a class in New York. The way that job work was like you'd work for like 13 days. Then you wouldn't work for four days. Like there was no regular schedule, like.

[John Gabrus]

Deep catch, you just fishermen or whatever.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, you just like. It was like, okay, we're doing this plant. Now we have a break. Now we're doing this plant place. But I was like, I need one day off a week so I can go take improv class. And he was like, okay. And then later, like when I was like doing it, I kept in touch with him. Nice guy. And he just was like, I didn't know what the fuck you were talking about. I didn't know what it was. But you were passionate. Like, I was just like, this guy really cares about this. And that. To me, like became, I became totally obsessed. I became totally addicted. I was at UC BE every single night, like watching everyone's show. Just like, I was just like, this is it. And then that like, you know, became whatever, like my, my new addiction and my passion. And then that led into like, okay, I'm gonna figure out how to do.

[Adam Pally]

This, only a slightly less self destructive passion.

[Sean Clements]

Improv versus well, improv. But then that led into sketch and that led into writing. And then that led into let's write a pilot. You know, that's become like, I have a life. But I think, I think, I think.

[John Gabrus]

That one of the things you touched on is something that we talk about a lot is like people ask about our industry. Like, how did you. A lot of times, like, what would you say? How would you, how would advice to give? How would you make, how do you make it in this industry? Or whatever. And like there's never. The only thing I ever really think is like, I had no choice. Like I was, I was desolate in the idea of, of what can I do. And I found this thing and it was like, that's the only thing my mind would let me explore to do.

[Sean Clements]

Oh yeah, Yeah.

[Ad Read Voice]

I think.

[Adam Pally]

And it's like, you gotta like it.

[John Gabrus]

You gotta like it.

[Adam Pally]

You can't be like, I'm gonna choose stand up because that's the best path in. Or like I'm gonna go become acting. Unless you really want to do stand up or you really want to be an actor or you really want to jam on and there are novels in your house.

[John Gabrus]

There are different avenues to get to all of those things, but.

[Adam Pally]

But you have to find what catches you. And I think we all were like, we didn't just meet doing ucb. We met when we were like all. We were deep obsessed with long form improv and sketch and bitch shows. Like all that stuff was like, that was my 20s. Like that was like the most important time.

[Sean Clements]

Well, that was my, like I, you know, I had flunked out after one semester of college because I was just like wasted all the time. And then I was like living at home with my parents who didn't want me to live there anymore. And I was like 25 and I was like, okay, let me start taking improv class. But you're right, it's like I had no other option. Like, it was like, okay, I'm all in on this. And that place, like you're saying, was like island of Misfit Toys. It was like everybody was kind of broken in the same way. Neil Casey, I think would always talk about like, what is our generation? This is dark. But like our generation's dementia going to look like. Oh yeah, because like all we did, we've lived so many realities is like, yeah, we just assembled and then destroyed realities like over and over again.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. This is his whole old person's home idea, right? That he wants to create an old person's home.

[Sean Clements]

Just improviser for improvisers.

[Adam Pally]

Cuz we're going to be such broken in a specific, same specific way.

[John Gabrus]

I mean it is, it would be nice to set up a program where you send young improvisers into old age home to like hang out with people with dementia and riff, you know, someone, you know what I mean, someone leans over, is like, ace, you know, and the guy's like, that's me.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, what do you need, sir?

[John Gabrus]

You know, it's like, oh good. You know, and then like, I mean, that seems like a service that's would be, that would do great.

[Adam Pally]

Aside about your time at ucb, a lot of drinking and drugs out there. How, how, how did that work for you? Like when I got hard at first.

[Sean Clements]

When I got there and I started, it was like, yeah, it was hard. I mean, you asked what the pull is now. I don't, I don't feel a strong like pull towards doing it, you know, And I'm just, I'm. I have a, hopefully like a good like practice of gratitude where it's just like my life is really full and good and beyond my wildest dreams. And like it's, you know, and I'm not always happy. I have a lot of anxiety and misery around different things and the industry is difficult, but on the whole, like, I just don't, I don't ever want to risk that. And so I've had thoughts of, you know, when I would see at ucb. Like, certain things would look unappealing. Like, you know, people, whatever, if they're doing drugs or they're just getting too drunk. Like, that never looks fun, but it's like people getting high or something. It's like, yeah, that looks like. There's a world where it could be fun. But I had it broken down for me in a way at one point where it was like, I had the thought of, what if I could smoke weed like, once a month, just, like, watch a movie and have fun. That could be fun, right? Eat some snacks. And it's like, if I did that because of the way I'm wired, what I know is the other 29 days of the month would be me planning out. Like, like, so it's like, well, you're not free then. Like, you are not free from your obsession. You're just in this state of withdrawal and obsession and you are, you know, being managed by this external thing. So, like, even though some people would say, like, well, you don't have to be, like, totally sober. Like, you could. You could use intermittently or whatever, California sober. But for me, what I know is then I still am not really like myself.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, if you got. If you smoked weed once a month to watch a movie, you would have a hard time watching movies any other time. Like, because you'll be like, yeah, well, now.

[John Gabrus]

Well, I want to say this.

[Sean Clements]

I'm saving this for this, or I'm.

[John Gabrus]

Doing this or I'm going to do obsessed with now.

[Sean Clements]

Right now.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Well, I was talking about on the way in. I mean, my kids specifically coaching my son's basketball team.

[John Gabrus]

I love it.

[Sean Clements]

So awesome. That's like, you know, in whatever deep obsession, trying to always make sure it's, like, fun for him, but, like, he has definitely an aptitude and he really loves it. And that's just been something that. That, like, we're sharing and. And bonding over. And, like, that is at rest often what I am thinking about.

[John Gabrus]

That's really wholesome.

[Adam Pally]

That's.

[Sean Clements]

Thanks. Yeah. I talk about sports. I'm in therapy now. Yes. If I did a lot of therapy, I've been in and out at different times, but I talk about anxiety and, like, having, like, a safe place to park my brain. Right. Like, what do I do? Like, when I'm just like, I don't have something that I'm working on or focus on or trying to do, like, what am I doing with my thoughts? It's not destructive. And it's like, I think that's why, like, people get really into sports and stuff. Like, I'm just like. I just can kind of think about that.

[John Gabrus]

The Clippers.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Devin just texted me again. Sean Clements, what are you doing to stay alive?

[Sean Clements]

What am I doing to stay.

[John Gabrus]

And then I want to hear all about before you get in, what was the Fred Armisen test?

[Sean Clements]

I'll tell the story. Yeah, it was a good sitcom story. I think it was a really funny use of the time travel. So. So what am I doing to stay alive? And they told me you were gonna.

[John Gabrus]

Ask your people, your team.

[Sean Clements]

Your fucking team.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, my team.

[Adam Pally]

Sean, we just gotta prep you. These guys are hard hitting journalists. This is like Pablo Torre Frost Nixon today.

[Sean Clements]

Well, I mean, you know, I'm trying to stay healthy. I have. Here's my routine right now. And Adam said that I felt kind of ripped when he gave me a little hug.

[John Gabrus]

For sure. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Just that wasn't on camera or Mike. We just might want to reiterate, Matt.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, and he mentioned that.

[John Gabrus]

I'll say it again. He felt ripped.

[Sean Clements]

He felt.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, yeah, Try it. Felt your try.

[Sean Clements]

Oops.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, were you flexing that thing? I did notice that when I went.

[Adam Pally]

To give you a hug, you went.

[John Gabrus]

Like your arms went.

[Sean Clements]

One second, let me stand up.

[Adam Pally]

Bring it in here. Get in here.

[Sean Clements]

My wife and I, I use a personal trainer together. She started with her, then I do. She's on Zoom.

[John Gabrus]

Whoa.

[Sean Clements]

She's in Kentucky. Her email that she sends me for my workout sessions, the title of the email, the name of her business is. Her name is Megan and it's M plus Power for her.

[John Gabrus]

M Power plus for her?

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, M plus Power for her. She mostly trades women, but my wife was using her and she, she was so fucking consistent with her workouts where it was like two days a week I do 30 minutes on Zoom with like free weights in the garage. And I meanwhile was like, I gotta get time to get to the gym. I gotta set up this other thing. And it was just like, I know I can do it. Like if we do this, like, she's really flexible with timing. This morning I did it at 8:00am, like, you know, because I had to be at a podcast at 9 and I had to get my kids to school or whatever and my wife and I like switched off. And then later in the week we'll do it in the afternoon because I have things. But like twice a week I do it. It's only 30 minutes a week. You know, different exercises every time. Like designs, you know, a workout, like for you. And I have been doing this for like, three years or something, like, and, you know, have missed whatever. There's been times when I was doing the movie that we filmed last year, it was like I couldn't really do it because, like, production hours and all that. So I'd maybe only get in like once a week or sometimes I'd have to skip, but other than that, like, always do it. But Megan and her training is what I'm doing right now to stay alive. And that's awesome.

[John Gabrus]

We find her, like, Facebook Marketplace.

[Sean Clements]

Like, you know what? She. She was training one of Grace's friends. She was in la. At first she was at a local gym here, like one of those private gyms where you have to have a trainer to go in. And they were using her. And I think that connected Grace to her. And then Grace was doing it, and then I was like, well, I gotta do it too.

[John Gabrus]

And so twice a week, that's it. So then a lot of this is diet too. Then we.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, so the big change we made is like, we're cooking it four to five nights a week where we were door dashing, like, every night.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, you were like a cooking family.

[Sean Clements]

No, not at all. And it was just like. And the truth is, it can be so simple. And at least right now, we've been doing this for some time now. It's like we eat the same, like, four or five things. And I've talked about this boringly on other podcasts, but, like, it's like ground beef and sweet potatoes. Just ground beef in a pan with some seasoning. Cook some sweet potatoes, and we make the same arugula salad just about every single night. And I still love it. And I feel like I've, like, really lost weight and I was doing intermittent fasting for, like, over a year, and I. Nothing has been as consistent as just like, we eat a little healthier, we make the food. The food's super simple. I like it. Yeah, I mean, I feel like I.

[John Gabrus]

Could do that too, because I really only eat three things myself. I eat a version of pizza, whether it be chicken parm or a pizza. I eat sushi and I eat Chinese food. And that's pretty much. Sometimes there'll be another thing that comes in my way. But we live in New York City. It's like, that's what we eat.

[Adam Pally]

No, what Sean's touching on here is something I can get behind because, because of our careers and our lives and, like, our finances, we're able to, like, you have dinner plans? Are you going out to dinner or someone you're with someone, they're gonna order in. And if you're gonna. If you have a couple of those a week or a couple of those a month that you just are given, it's kind of easy to lock in on all your home meals. Like I eat like for the last like month and I, I've lost like £15 in a month at this point. And it's all because I just eat like, like mixed greens with grilled chicken on top with some nuts and some honey mustard, avocado oil kind of shit. And I could just eat that every day because I know like one day this week I'm meeting up with Manzoukas for lunch. You know, like one day this week I have like a dinner with a friend. So like I can have like. And this is like, maybe not the right attitude to have about food, but I can have like a fun meal. I'm gonna have a fun meal on Thursday, so it's easier for me on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday to eat ground beef, sweet potatoes and greens.

[Sean Clements]

On the weekends we might go to. But it's like Monday through Thursday we're always cooking in pretty much if she's out on one of those nights for a dinner, then, then it is a treat for me. Like now I'm going to order in something that I want. She doesn't like or whatever. But it is like, it's like egg sale ground beef Monday and Thursday. Tuesday, chicken thighs cooked in a pan with rice.

[John Gabrus]

Wow.

[Sean Clements]

Wednesday only know.

[Ad Read Voice 2]

But I feel like.

[Adam Pally]

Oh fuck, that's my favorite. Yeah, you make al pastor.

[Sean Clements]

We buy like a pre marinated like al Pastor. Yeah, I've seen it and I like love it.

[Adam Pally]

Al pastor is like my, one of my vices in la. I can't get enough of it.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah. And it doesn't, you know, just if you. Whatever, you don't. Yeah, it's not. Yeah, it feels like it's not that bad. But it's just like though really, it's like a rotation of those three meals and that has been a real game changer. And then. Yeah. Because we were. We didn't even like going out or ordering it anymore because it's like, it's just like what do we want to do? What do we actually like? Nothing feels like a treat. Nothing feels that far down on it.

[Adam Pally]

It's. Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

And it was expensive, but it was just like, well, we're both busy. But now it's just like, okay, kid, kids are out of the bath, One of us is doing books with them while the other one's in the kitchen. Okay. Now we switch off and like getting. Doing the bedtime routine and it's. Yeah, that's been very impactful.

[Adam Pally]

That's such like a grown up decision to make when you're cook.

[John Gabrus]

Well.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, yeah. To like just cook for yourself. It's like, it sounds so hard, but like the way Sean's talking about, I hope listeners can like wrap their head around that of like, if you can make something kind of easy also you can go to a supermarket and we call. We used to call this like Rachael Ray cooking where you just get like a couple of things that are like almost pre made, you know, like if you buy a rotisserie chicken and a bag of spinach, you can have like a healthy dinner two nights in a row.

[John Gabrus]

You know what I mean?

[Adam Pally]

Like, it's pretty easy.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, it's arugula, shaved parmesan and you slice up an avocado and you throw a little vinegar on. It's like we do that every single night. Yeah, I still like it. Like, it's just like a package of ground beef thrown in a pan and.

[John Gabrus]

Just stick around with a brown. With a.

[Sean Clements]

It's like that's like you. But I'm just like, I'm not a good cook, but that doesn't mean I can't cook. You know, like, it's just like make it simple so you'll do it right. And that was what we finally realized. Like, oh, we just need to. We can't. There was a peer. Was like, well, sometimes we'll find a rest. This recipe from the New York Times looks good. And it's like, gotta buy all this. It's a special shop now. It's like even grocery shopping is easy because it's like, well, I get the same every Single Monday.

[Adam Pally]

Get 10 pounds of ground beef.

[Sean Clements]

That's right.

[Adam Pally]

The freezer. Yes, that's. And also another thing that when you cook the same thing all the time, you get better at it. And you're like. And you're like, oh, we did too much garlic this time. Let's hit it with extra onion powder. This like. And then you perfect it over the years.

[Sean Clements]

That's how I got really good at squeeze of lime.

[Adam Pally]

Yes.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah. Just the right time.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

That does remind me of something we do have to do before Sean leaves. Looking for a new media plan. Smartless Media.

[Adam Pally]

Sean Clements uses it.

[John Gabrus]

Sean Clements uses it. He's our guest today and that's how we got him. We texted him over Smartless Media. Thanks, Sean. We just had I think we did it right, Tesla, then get the love the Tesla story.

[Adam Pally]

Let's get the Tesla story out.

[Sean Clements]

So the idea was this. It was that Adam, Yasser and Layton went back to the the time of Nikola Tesla and the time machine breaks and they're like, oh, no, we have no way to get back to our present time. So they decide there is. Yasser knows there's someone living right now who's one of the most brilliant scientists ever. Like, let's go to his house, and he'll be able to help us fix the time machine. So you guys go to his house, and when you get there, his life is just really pathetic. And there's like some story we had read about how he like basically fell in love with a pig pigeon. Like, he was like, you know, we assume he was neurodivergent, right? And so he had like, he like married his pigeon who he was like, in love with. And so that you guys get there and you're kind of like talking to Tesla, seeing his life, and you decide that, like, basically the reason this guy is so fucked up is like, he really needs to get laid. And so when you fix the time machine, you then take him to the, like, 1991 MTV Spring Break house so that instead of going back to your present time, you guys take him to like, when they were like filming the Grind with Eric Neese and all that. It's like, like real world personalities. And you guys get him at the spring break house, you're trying to teach him how to like, spit game in the 90s, and then he. It's not going well. And then he basically, like, is on the beach and through the use of figure physics, figures out how to like, surf the break perfectly and becomes like the sort of star studded beach.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, my God.

[Sean Clements]

Because. And it was like, oh, this is such. And it was going to be Armisen. And it was like, this is such a funny time travel story to me. Like, we got to get Nikola Tesla laid. Just like the stupidest idea. This is where we're taking a wave.

[Adam Pally]

And then.

[John Gabrus]

All of a sudden makes.

[Sean Clements]

Him like the, you know, he's like, whatever, stealing a girl from CT or something.

[Adam Pally]

I think that's awesome.

[John Gabrus]

I think Fox made a huge mistake. That would have been huge. That would have pushed us over the top.

[Adam Pally]

Sean, I love that show. And I recently worked one day with Leighton and I said to, I'm like, you actually played like one of my best friend's love interests on a show. And she was like, who? And I was Like, Adam Pally on Making History. She's like, oh, you're surprised that I knew about it?

[Sean Clements]

She was like, well, it doesn't.

[John Gabrus]

She was like, I was not on that show. Oh, making History, Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

She's like, I remember when they went from 13 to nine.

[Sean Clements]

I was on the show.

[John Gabrus]

Sean was on the show. Yeah. I thought that I would say that Ben Vereen sequence was really funny.

[Adam Pally]

With us in the car with Ben and Neil and Gemberling played like founding fathers.

[Sean Clements]

They were in it. But we were making. When we first. When I first started making it, before the order got slashed and everything fell apart, I was like, oh, I'm like a producer. Writing on a show I think is really funny. With, like, Lord Miller. My friends are on the show, and I am a recurring character. I was like, this is it.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Like, this is the fucking dream. Like, it's just we're in and now the pro version.

[John Gabrus]

I've literally had that same feeling so many times.

[Adam Pally]

That's so funny. I haven't. I've gotten to the dream level, but mostly the one I've gotten to is, well, this is the thing that happens before shit really takes off for me. And that's been, like, every three years since 06, because I've been like, well, from here on out, I'm cruising. Wait. Nope. Okay, hold on.

[John Gabrus]

I mean, I've spent the money. I'm like, well, this is going to take off. This is it.

[Adam Pally]

13 episodes, 13 names. Yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Slash to nine. It's the name of my country house, Hayes.

[Sean Clements]

Joke with me once about how, like, you sell. If you sell, like, a show idea, like, before you've written the pilot, your staffing, the room in your head, and you're already stressed about, like, got a lot of mouths to feed. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, yeah.

[Sean Clements]

Somebody's going to be left out in the cold. And it's like, don't worry.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, don't worry. That show's not going anywhere. Wow.

[Adam Pally]

I can't move my horse. This cart is in the way.

[Sean Clements]

Dude.

[John Gabrus]

Thank you so much for being here, Sean. You're the best.

[Adam Pally]

A real treat.

[Sean Clements]

Hey, thanks for having me, y'. All.

[Adam Pally]

All right.

[John Gabrus]

We'll let you.

[Adam Pally]

20 years of rent. I'm like, I think Sean's mad.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. Now Sean's mad. We called him in here. He's like, this was not worth my time.

[Adam Pally]

No.

[Sean Clements]

But I will say, podcasts aren't supposed to be this professional. I'm signing a thing. We're doing a whole. It's not supposed to happen.

[Adam Pally]

Like, this is All Bateman's ideas.

[Sean Clements]

That's Bateman.

[Adam Pally]

Bateman's a sticker.

[John Gabrus]

When you watch this on YouTube, it'll have a blue hue.

[Adam Pally]

Fuck. Always a good chat. I hope the listeners don't mind when we have an old comedy friend on that. We just fucking go deep cuts telling Com. We like, we broke down a two part unmade making history plot line which was.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, but I like it.

[Adam Pally]

I wanted to hear it. So I don't care about the list.

[John Gabrus]

I mean, Sean is the funniest. Is he. Sean is a machine. Sean is a bit machine. He is a comedy bit machine. I loved working with him because my favorite thing about Sean is like super dependable.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

You know, like you can always depend. You know, Sean's going to be there and he's going to have a joke.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, he's a grown up and he's fucking talented.

[John Gabrus]

And he's talented. Yes. And he works hard. Yeah, he lets you know that he's good.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, he likes to let you know.

[Adam Pally]

He lets you know how he feels about you and himself.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah, he lets you know how he.

[John Gabrus]

Feels about you, but also like in.

[Adam Pally]

A way where you Places you.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I love it. I, I, I always love this kid. I mean, truly. I remember seeing him at ucb. He was in a, I first saw him in a, a fake reality show about improv.

[Adam Pally]

Project Improvise.

[John Gabrus]

Project Improviser.

[Adam Pally]

Hosted by John Flynn. John Flynn.

[Sean Clements]

Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

And there was.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, this was at like Peak. Project Runway and American Idol, American Next Top Model. And like they just did an improv version of that with a bunch of people from around the theater who were coming up. Yeah, yeah.

[John Gabrus]

And he was so inside baseball. But all of everyone knew right away. They're like, well, that kid, that guy's actually really good. That guy should not be there. Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, man, it's been fucking great watching him. Absolutely crush. And I can't wait to watch his movie this summer in theaters.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah. Isn't it in theaters?

[Adam Pally]

I think so.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, man.

[Adam Pally]

It's pretty sick. Yeah.

[John Gabrus]

Super tough.

[Adam Pally]

Well, maybe I'm speaking out of turn. I don't know. Maybe it isn't. Maybe it isn't. Either way, I'm going to watch movie.

[John Gabrus]

Yeah, well, I have to because I owe Ben $160,000.

[Adam Pally]

You have to watch it because you have to. You won't be cutting yourself while watching Jake Johnson be in a movie, will you?

[John Gabrus]

Jake texted me.

[Adam Pally]

I saw a Good Ones interview where you.

[John Gabrus]

Jake texted me. He was like, he was very nice about it.

[Adam Pally]

He wants him on the pod.

[John Gabrus]

He wants to come on.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Gabrus]

He'll be on.

[Adam Pally]

He's a bud. Play a little poke.

[Sean Clements]

He'll be on.

[Adam Pally]

Well, stay alive.

[John Gabrus]

Oh, fuck you.

[Adam Pally]

Bam. Bullshit. You have been listening to Staying Alive with John Gabris and Adam Pali A Smartless Media production in association with Sirius xm.

[John Gabrus]

Produced by Devin Tory Bryant and Anne Harris. Engineered and edited by Devin Tory Bryant, who also wrote the music.

[Adam Pally]

Associate producer and video producer is Matt Daniel McCann. Social media producer Tommy Galgano.

[John Gabrus]

Assistant engineer, Kyle McGraw. Special thanks to Jared O' Connell at Sirius XM.

[Adam Pally]

Executive producers are John Gabris.

[Sean Clements]

Ooh, me.

[Adam Pally]

Adam Pally. Ooh, you. Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Richard Corson and Bernie Kaminsky. Do us a favor. Just rate and review the podcast. It actually helps.

[John Gabrus]

Just so everyone knows we do not have a discord.

[Adam Pally]

Don't reach out to us.

[John Gabrus]

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[Sean Clements]

I just. I just think like, this two party system doesn't work.

[Adam Pally]

I love those guys. I'm sort of that.

[Sean Clements]

But it's like, do I want to be the other thing too? Like, it's just like. It's like I've got issues with all of it.

[John Gabrus]

I still wish Bernie would get in it.

[Sean Clements]

Where is he now, really? Where has Bernie been?

[John Gabrus]

Where is Bernie at the time we need him?

[Sean Clements]

But genuinely, where has he been?

[John Gabrus]

Oh, he's 95. He's in a fucking catacomb.

[Sean Clements]

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