D'Arcy Carden

Summary

Thanks Dad with Ego Nwodim

Episode: D’Arcy Carden
Release Date: March 3, 2026
Guest: D’Arcy Carden
Host: Ego Nwodim

Episode Overview

In this lively, heartfelt, and often hilarious episode of "Thanks Dad," Ego Nwodim sits down for an intimate conversation with actor D’Arcy Carden (The Good Place, Barry, A League of Their Own, Sunny Nights). Together, they dive into the complexities of friendship, career, family dynamics, actor anxieties, and the evolving nature of adult relationships—with a hefty sprinkle of showbiz tales and relatable millennial reflections. The conversation is playful and warm, with both women sharing personal stories, advice, and plenty of love for each other.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter & Thanks (02:25–07:40)

• Fashion and Nails: The episode kicks off with Ego and D’Arcy bonding over similar outfits and Valentine’s-themed nails, reflecting their instant chemistry and playfulness.
• First Thanks: D’Arcy thanks two people—a kind stranger who complimented her parking just as she needed a win, and friends who brought her a cinnamon roll on a blue day, highlighting small acts of kindness and the importance of thoughtful gestures.
  • "I was just, like, having a little blue day the other day, and they brought me over like a cinnamon roll." – D’Arcy (13:51)
• Parking Discourse: The pair passionately discuss the underappreciated art of parking well, specifically the boldness and pride of reversing into spaces and the gendered phenomenon of men instructing or observing women parallel park.

2. The Era of Video Podcasts & Technology as Social Glue (07:42–13:11)

• Changing Landscape: D’Arcy shares her initial resistance to video podcasts and how the rapidly shifting media landscape altered her approach.
  • "In that year that I had the podcast, every single podcast became video." – D’Arcy (08:43)
• Podcasts as Companionship: Both discuss how podcasts serve as a surrogate for human connection—feeling less alone while getting ready, in hotels, or on walks.
  • "I'll put on a podcast. It feels like friends are over." – Ego (11:35)
• Reflections on Accepting Modernity: They muse about justifying new behaviors by connecting them to “the olden times” while noting that some elements of modern life (like podcasts) are genuine improvements.

3. Rediscovering Intimacy: “House Hangs” and Grown-Up Friendship (13:14–19:05)

• Acts of Care: D’Arcy and Ego long for the “house hang” and drop-by visits, contrasting them with adult friendships that increasingly revolve around restaurant outings.
  • "Come to the house... we don't have to do anything. You could just be at my house, and we're kicking it." – Ego (14:43)
• Barriers and Boundaries: They discuss modern security measures, like gates and Fort Knox-style houses, and how neighborhood dynamics have changed.

4. Life Stories: Origins, Family Influence, and Becoming Actors (23:07–34:45)

• Bay Area Roots & Area Codes: D’Arcy recounts her upbringing in Danville, CA, with a fun aside on area codes and the proliferation of new numbers as populations exploded.
• Privacy Boundaries: They agree on the etiquette of sharing phone numbers—permission is essential.
  • "It's the weirdest thing. Where's the decorum?" – Ego (25:16)
• Life Path & Education: D’Arcy traces her journey from Ashland, Oregon (studying Shakespeare), to 11 formative years in NYC, to LA, openly discussing doubts about her choices and how Sliding Doors moments can haunt creatives.
  • "I think it was fine that I didn't, but I, while I was in Oregon, I was sort of like, they're passing me by, you know?" – D’Arcy (34:22)
• Family Support: Both share stories of family support (or quiet concern) for their acting careers and the subtle ways in which parents try to guide—but can’t deter—a creative calling.

5. Regrets, Presence & The Science of Happiness (34:45–37:07)

• Letting Go of Regrets: They connect on how, with time, regrets fade, and being present matters more—a notion lifted from Ego’s college “Science of Happiness” class.
  • "I don’t really—I don’t want to say I don’t believe in regrets, but I think I don’t." – D’Arcy (35:50)
• Improv as Life Practice: Improv training is praised for fostering present-moment awareness, helpful both on stage and in personal growth.

6. Acting Career Real Talk (42:18–53:53)

• Auditioning in the Zoom Self-Tape Era: Both share war stories about adapting to new audition formats, their distaste for self-tapes, and the odd protocols of remote reading.
• Handling Rejection and Letting Go: D’Arcy recalls a recent rejection and how she copes with disappointment.
• Iconic 'Good Place' Test Story: D’Arcy relives her nerve-wracking final audition for Janet, where a flubbed line led her to improvise in character—a move she credits with landing her the role.
  • "Thank you to UCB gods... I was able to, like—this is a weird little brag—able to just use it, to comment on it in character... and it made them laugh." – D’Arcy (49:46)
• The "Don’t Care" Paradox: They riff on the balance between bringing relaxed confidence and desperation to an audition, agreeing that authenticity (and not trying “too hard”) reads best.

7. Acting Myths, Rituals, and Absurdities (53:44–54:55)

• Hollywood Oddities: D’Arcy dishes on the industry lore of actors using quirks during auditions to stand out—like someone always sitting on the floor, or making up stories (“my mom just died”).
  • "They did that every time... you have to stop saying that. It's gotten around." – D’Arcy (55:08)

8. Self-Help, Memoirs, and the “Four Agreements” (57:16–59:20)

• Book Habits: D’Arcy prefers actor memoirs over self-help books, while Ego recommends "The Four Agreements," succinctly sharing its core rules:
  1. Be impeccable with your word
  2. Don't take anything personally
  3. Never make assumptions
  4. Always try your best

9. Travel, Vacations & Work-Life Balance (59:31–64:32)

• Vacation Philosophy: D’Arcy gives practical yet philosophical advice about planning breaks and the significance of travel memories—insisting everyone should vacation more, even if it’s just a few days.
  • "The best memories of my entire life are from a vacation... It, like, breaks up the monotony. It expands us." – D’Arcy (61:08)
• Metaphor Musings: The duo whimsically dissect common sayings about iron (e.g., “strike while the iron’s hot,” “iron sharpens iron”), eventually bonding on shared anemic symptoms and affinity for cozy outfits.

10. Listener Question: Navigating Social Boundaries (65:36–71:04)

• Advice to Listener Kate:
  • Situation: Kate dislikes forced social interaction at the dog park when alone.
  • Solution: D’Arcy recommends big, obvious headphones for gentle avoidance; Ego warns this sometimes backfires as people engage anyway. They riff on the challenges introverts face in social spaces and the importance of nonverbal cues.
  • Reflections: The pair explore ambiversion (mix of introvert and extrovert traits) and the joys/dangers of small-talk with strangers.
  • "You could pretend to be on a phone call the entire time... Why does she have to do all that work? That's not fair to Kate." – Ego (67:42)

11. Closing Love Fest & Support (71:37–72:56)

• Mutual Admiration: D’Arcy expresses her pride in Ego's accomplishments, especially from their early days at UCB and SNL.
  • "I had like tears in my eyes—so much pride." – D’Arcy (71:59)
• Paying Kindness Forward: Ego recalls a pivotal, supportive moment with D’Arcy during an intimidating show, underlining the essential role of encouragement in creative communities.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the fleeting nature of adult connection:
  "The house hang has become like, I guess maybe the older you get, the less you do that… some of your closest friends and you're like, could I sit on the couch and just chill with them?" – D’Arcy (15:11)

• On self-imposed pressure and the illusion of falling behind:
  "As a kid… I would compare my life to kids on TV and I'd be like, wow, they're already on TV… I guess I'll never be Rudy Huxtable." – D’Arcy (33:15)

• Actor wisdom about regrets:
  "If someone was like, what's your biggest regret? I'd kind of be like, fuck you... I think you gotta own it. Love it." – D’Arcy (36:01)

• Improv as life philosophy:
  "I was a better person when I was doing improv regularly... bring that to life." – Ego (37:02)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Guest intro and outfit banter: 02:25–03:35
• Acts of gratitude and parking story: 04:23–07:40
• Video podcasting & technology as “friends": 07:47–13:11
• Importance of “house hangs” and true friendship: 13:14–19:05
• Bay Area roots and area code comedy: 23:07–24:25
• Phone number etiquette: 24:30–26:07
• Career path, sliding doors, and college choices: 27:01–35:38
• Regret, presence, and lessons from improv: 35:39–37:07
• Auditioning, rejection, and Hollywood rituals: 42:18–55:23
• Book recommendations and philosophy: 57:16–59:20
• Travel, vacations, and work-life reflection: 59:31–64:32
• Listener question on being left alone at the dog park: 65:36–71:04
• Mutual support and showbiz sisterhood: 71:37–72:51

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Tone & Style

The episode is candid, irreverent, and warm, with the natural flow, warmth, and humor of two close friends catching up. Ego and D’Arcy riff on everyday absurdities, career panic, and creative joys, modeling vulnerability, gratitude, and deep support for each other—and by extension, the audience.

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For anyone who hasn’t listened, this episode offers not just celebrity anecdotes but universal truths about connection, self-acceptance, the pressure to keep up, and the profound value of everyday kindness. Whether you’re a working creative, a podcast lover craving “friend energy,” or just someone who needs affirmation that adult life can be weird and wonderful, this one’s for you.

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[C]

Darcy. I'm so happy you're here.

[A]

I'm so happy to be.

[C]

I have to read your intro. I'm a newscaster, you know. My next guest from the Good Place, Barry, A League of Their Own, and the upcoming Sunny Nights on Hulu, it's Darcy Carden. By the way, that's short list. It's giving short list because your resume, it just keeps going.

[A]

So is yours.

[C]

No, Darcy. Darcy. Mine don't go like yours.

[A]

Well, you had. You had practically a decade at one place.

[C]

Did work for a long time.

[A]

So that's gonna. That's gonna shorten it. But it's the place.

[C]

Yes, it's the. It's the place. Darc. So happy you're here.

[A]

I'm so happy to be here.

[C]

Thank you for doing this.

[A]

An honor.

[C]

And I kind of like our kind of matching getups. I had sambas to put on my feet, but I thought, we shouldn't white

[A]

be with black or black with white?

[C]

Black with white.

[A]

I almost wore those.

[C]

Are we the same?

[A]

You kind of are.

[C]

Maybe I feel connected to you already. What's happening?

[A]

Can I see how good your nails look? Are they little hearts?

[C]

They're little hearts. For V day. For V Day. I'm usually never this person. Should we do a close up?

[A]

Just don't do it.

[C]

Somebody told me that the way I show my nails on FaceTime is. Is wrong. Cause I go, do you see my nails?

[A]

Little claws? Do you see my little shrimpies?

[C]

As opposed to everyone does this. That's true. I go, see. See my nails?

[A]

I just got a manicure, and it was a manicure that, like, was very tender and loving, if this makes sense. Like, the woman that gave it to me. I was like, I loved her, and she was sweet, and it was like, a good experience. And this was on Saturday, and today is what, Wednesday?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Like, most of the polish has popped off.

[C]

Exactly. I will tell you when I was gonna say gentle. Manic. Yeah, get out of here. That's how I feel about a gentle manicure.

[A]

Gentle manicure. She put on the polish, too gently. And then maybe all of my little, like. What do you call these things? Cuticles are now. They're kind of like fraggedy, raggedy again,

[C]

as though you didn't go on Saturday. But I do love her for. You went for the vibes.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Sweet lady.

[A]

She's really sweet.

[C]

Who or what do you want to say thanks to before we dive deep?

[A]

Okay, now here's the thing. I had something, okay. And then something happened just a minute ago.

[C]

Isn't that crazy how that I'm like this.

[A]

I want to say thank you to this person.

[C]

Okay. Is there a world in which you say thanks to the person and then I also want to know what you were gonna say thanks to. Yeah. Because there's no real rules.

[A]

That's right.

[C]

Okay. Okay.

[A]

Because what if the rule was think two different situations.

[C]

It could have been that, could have been that.

[A]

And then I would try to do this.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. So as I was parking, I had to do something. I was in the valet downstairs and the guy sort of, he was busy, right. So he kind of did this thing where he did like a, like a hand motion, like do this with that. And I was like, fuck, I hope I get this right. So it was like a, it was like a tight squeeze to kind of go forward and then reverse into the spot.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. And then I, you know, that was, that, that was the exchange. And then I walked around the corner and the guy who was driving out of the parking lot said that was some really good parking. Open his window and shouted it out the window. And I was like, damn, I really needed that. Cause I felt like I had done a good job and I was just sort of like. I guess I had been thinking about parking earlier.

[C]

Do you get anxious about parking? Not anxious. Okay.

[A]

No. My thought is, it's so cocky. My thought is like, I can park anywhere.

[C]

I know that's right.

[A]

I can park anywhere, any space. But it is, it's like a thankless,

[C]

thankless, thankless to be able to park.

[A]

Yes. Do.

[C]

Pride myself in parking. My ability to park too. I'm a good. I reverse into all spots. Yes. I love that because it's easy. Because when you're ready to go, you just get to go.

[A]

Worth it. It's so worth it.

[C]

I love taking the extra time I'm with you. And anytime I'm driving someone who is riding with me for the first time. Cuz I've lived in New York for so long now, some people have not ridden with me and I'm kind of like internally like, watch this. I watch what I'm about to do.

[A]

You ready to do something?

[C]

And I'm going to say nine times out of ten they comment. And if they don't, I try to act like I'm not. It wasn't even. It's not fishing for it, but shout out to that man. Because also the people who watch people while they parallel park, I think deserve the chair.

[A]

Oh my God, I'm So with you. And also, like, giving you. Giving you instruction. Unless you're really needing it or asking for it. Yes, but I'm like, you're making it worse. You're doing this or whatever you're doing.

[C]

And now I have an audience. I don't.

[A]

You literally don't need to look at you. You're the wrong person to look at. I'm trying to look at the goddamn street.

[C]

Yes. And the curb.

[A]

Yeah, the curb. And the person behind me. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

So.

[A]

And sorry to be this person, but okay. It's always a man.

[C]

Oh. I mean, you're this person. You're imagine. Have you ever seen a woman just watching someone parallel park? No, I don't think I have. Not one time.

[A]

It doesn't exist.

[C]

And the person who complimented you was a man. Right, that's true. So he has cleansed the.

[A]

Totally, totally, totally.

[C]

He's cleared their. He's cleared their slate. And I feel like so long as neither of us go into the world and encounter another man watching us park for the.

[A]

For the rest of our lives.

[C]

Our atoned for of the men. Okay, well done. I want to give it. Can we please give it up for Darcy's Parking and even. Come on. Yeah. This is an active crowd. This is an active crowd. I beg them to make noise.

[A]

I'm gonna be like this unless I drink. Okay, good.

[C]

Because you don't want to hear the slurp, slurp, slurps in the. In the podcast. People are watching podcasts now, Darcy.

[A]

Well, that's.

[C]

How do you feel about an on camera podcast? Be real.

[A]

Okay. The real. I mean, okay, okay. It has changed so fast.

[C]

The landscape.

[A]

The landscape. It really has. As someone. As someone's. As two people who are on podcasts for years and who have their own podcasts in the last couple years, it has changed so dramatically so quickly. When I first started doing a podcast, I did one year of a podcast. And in the beginning of the year, okay, so when we were, like, doing the. I don't know, it sounds so businessy to say deal, but when we were figuring it out, yeah, the producers really wanted it to be on camera. And I was like, absolutely not.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, it is. It's an. Like, a podcast is for your ears. I felt so strongly about it. And in that year that I had the podcast, like, every single podcast became video. I was like. I was like, goodbye.

[C]

Oh, no.

[A]

Like, just swept out to see. I like it better now because I think I'm getting used to it. And I'm like, I Know, this is video. So I put on a little mascara. You know what I mean? I wore a little bracelet.

[C]

I love the bracelet. And are those diamonds? Wait, can I.

[A]

Tell me if you ever do this.

[C]

Okay, tell me.

[A]

Okay. You know, when you go to an. Okay.

[C]

They can still hear us.

[A]

This is strictly for basically actresses. Okay.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

You know when you go to an event.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And your stylist styles you, and she gives you all this jewelry and you have, like, a couple days before they pick it up again.

[C]

Yes. Wear it. Yes, Just wear it.

[A]

Oh, you're the.

[C]

In the. You're in the in between space.

[A]

Wear it places.

[C]

Oh, fun. Okay. Yes.

[A]

I know she's gonna probably pick it up tonight or tomorrow, so I'm just gonna wear it.

[C]

See, I'm too scared. I'm scared. I'm like, someone's gonna rob me in the this moment.

[A]

That's totally possible. But then you could also be like, I lost it at the Emmys. Or wherever you go. And then they'll be like, well, that happens.

[C]

Yeah. Because there is insurance, I discovered.

[A]

Yeah. Better than being like, I lost it on the way to a podcast. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, I lost it at the Emmys. I mean, winning podcast. It's not.

[A]

But

[C]

you never know.

[A]

Okay. So all that is to say I'm. I guess I'm. Except. Okay, here's the other truth about. About watching podcasts. I'm saying on a podcast that I've watched.

[C]

Please.

[A]

With people that do podcasts.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That people can watch.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And this is sort of like admitting my maybe, like, like, old ladiness. But I listen, I. I consume so much less podcasts now because I'm always like, oh, I should watch this. Wow. I should, like, watch. Okay, I won't. I won't listen to it on my walk or on my drive. I'll wait. This one's good. I'm gonna wait until I get home and watch it, and then I, like, so rarely do.

[C]

Yes. Well, that's the thing. I mean, I'm fascinated. I'm not mad at it. I'm so. I'd. I'd love to hear more from the avid video watchers of podcasts, because I. I'm like, you're just. You're. You're watching a conversation happen. Like, it's like, if you and I decided to go to coffee right now.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Like, would someone want to, like, properly watch it? It's really interesting.

[A]

But then don't you feel like if you're not watching it, you're missing some joke or facial expression or Something and.

[C]

But I'm okay with it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm okay with missing things. Like, genuinely. I listen to podcasts when I'm in the shower. Can't do driving. Can't like, can't my. I can't do the math. My brain can't compute.

[A]

You need music.

[C]

I need music or phone call.

[A]

Ok, I can totally do. I do podcasts. Driving or walking.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Or if I'm like, again, actress Talk. But if I'm like, on, let's say.

[C]

Have you started a podcast called Actress Talk?

[A]

Actress Talk. Yes, for sure. Like, you know how sometimes you're in a hotel for could be months on end and I get a little like, stir crazy and then it's like the second I wake up, I put a podcast on to be like, my friend. I need to hear.

[C]

Okay, so this is important. Yeah. This is huge. Okay. I am like, okay, technology, it's changing the world. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's coming, it's happening fast. The podcast. To be your friend is such a thing. Because I have felt that often. Yeah. With podcasts I listen to. I will put it on. Being like, none of my friends are available to talk. And so, like, I'll put on a podcast. It feels like friends are over. And then I judge myself and I'm like, this is weird. Yeah, this is that thing. This is like one step removed from the movie her right?

[A]

Where I'm like, oh, my God, totally. Yeah.

[C]

And then I get weird about it. But I was like, yeah, exactly. But you're making me feel better. Because it is low key in getting ready. I listen to podcasts, getting ready. I'm like, it's the thing I do. I'm like, first thing. And it's like, just so it feels like someone's here with me.

[A]

I get. I'm like trying to. I'm trying to justify it. Maybe I'm trying to actually do like that. I think it's okay. But why, why, why? Why is it okay? It's like it. If you woke up and listened to, like, Like, I'm trying to, like, rationalize it for, like, olden times. I'm like, would you wake up and. And your elders would tell you a story.

[C]

Good morning, Papa.

[A]

I'm trying to think of.

[C]

I know. But also too, I think sometimes when we're trying to be like, what does this look like in olden times? That makes this. Then okay. It's sort of like. But we've got some things right over here on this side. I feel. I feel the need to justify things being like, yeah, but before it was like this, and now this is just that version of it. And I'm like, but we have improved some things. Yeah. And we don't give ourselves enough credit.

[A]

You're so right. Especially lately. We're down on ourselves.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And I'm down on ourselves. But we are down on ourselves, and it's not.

[C]

We've got to do something about that. I think you need to maybe. I think part of the problem is not celebrating ourselves enough.

[A]

I think you might be right.

[C]

And.

[A]

Or maybe the wrong people are celebrating themselves.

[C]

I think that's it. That's it. And that's gonna be the title of the episode. The wrong People are Celebrating Themselves. We figured it out. Oh, I cut you off before in talking about the first. The thing you were originally gonna say thanks to.

[A]

Okay. By the way, you didn't cut me off.

[C]

Okay. I didn't.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Thank you, queen.

[A]

Okay. The other thing was just, like. Just two sweet friends. Should I say their names? I'll say their essay champion. Katie.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

I was just, like, having a little blue day the other day, and they brought me over like a cinnamon roll.

[C]

Oh. You know what I mean. I do know what you mean.

[A]

Just like a sweet move.

[C]

Very, very sweet.

[A]

Like, also, I think. I don't know. I think. Okay. Going back to old lady. Talking about phone stuff. Because we're so connected on our phone. It's so easy to. I mean, I was about to say I'm guilty of this. It's like, not even guilty. It's like, what I do with my friends is. I'm, like, thinking of you. Text, text, text. How are you doing? Do you want to hop on the phone? Things like that. But the idea of going to someone's house and, like, leaving them a thing. We're here if you want to talk, but no pressure. Like, that type of move is. I feel, like, rare and so sweet. And I really, really kind of moved me.

[C]

That is very sweet. And that does feel. There's a. I've been saying, let's bring back house hangs.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

I'm like, that feels so much better than what's so. And I love going out to dinner. No, but I'm like, come to the house I love. And we don't have to do anything. You could just be at my house, and we're kicking it and talking. It's easy. And so that gesture is so meaningful to me.

[A]

Okay, let's talk about this for a second.

[C]

Yes. Because. Okay.

[A]

I feel like I thought you want

[C]

to talk about the mic.

[A]

Let's talk about.

[C]

There's dust.

[A]

Can we talk about this mic?

[C]

No, like, the.

[A]

I've been thinking about this and, and even talking about it with friends. This thing of, like, house hang, couch friends, TV friends. As we get older, we. It's. It's all about the dinner or the breakfast, whatever. The restaurant hang, which I love. I live for a restaurant hang. But the, the couch hang. And the, the house hang has become like, I guess maybe the older you get, the less you do that. And, and the. Some of my, you know, you think of some of your closest friends and you're like, oh, they don't. We're not like, could I sit on the couch and just chill with them? And I mean, I think, like, when I think of my closest friends, I'm like 100, but I don't know. Yeah, because your relationships, your friendships were only that when you were a kid or when you were a teenager in college.

[C]

Yeah.

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Also, SNL is funny because you have that. Your dressing room.

[C]

I'm sure I know. My couch. It was like, come hang in my dressing room. Coming. We're going to hang in your dressing room.

[A]

It's so intimate.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And it's so, like, I. I think I'm going to like, actively kind of push for that in my life more because I miss that.

[C]

Yeah. And also there. Yeah. There's like, you say something more intimate about it, and it's so telling. Even in, like, relationship romantic. Being able to be like, we are unstimulated here.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

By all intents and purposes. And it's fine. Yeah. It's cool. And no one has to be talking. And that's. I feel like such a sign of comfort and connection.

[A]

I totally agree.

[C]

And I want more of it. And like you said, love a restaurant. Hey, I love to try new restaurants, but when people come over and someone does something like that, like, I'm just dropping this off at your house.

[A]

So loving.

[C]

It's so loving. And it's. Why does it feel. It feels so vintage.

[A]

It really does. It just genuinely feels like from another era.

[C]

Another era.

[A]

But it's dropping a little.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like a little loaf on your. On your door.

[C]

I mean, I have. I just. I pseudo moved into my house. I'm not quite there. I want to. I. Somebody. I. My thing is like Fort Knox because I have a gate that I keep locked because. Because people kept coming up to my door and I was like, yeah. And so. So I'm. I'm like, no, you can't just come to my Door neighbors. But they didn't. Not to introduce themselves. It was. It was always weird. And I was like, I don't. This is what. Where's the pie? You can do this if you bring pie.

[A]

Yeah, you bring me something.

[C]

Or you can just say hi. Just wanted to introduce myself. I guess that's fine. But it's. It's very like. Wait, what? That you had to, like, enter my. Enter my Fort Knox gate and let yourself in. And so now I had Jimmy Falley come to my house, and he did send me a text the other day being like, I was. I did send him the thinking of you text.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And he sent me a text back, being like, I'm thinking of your house, the moat and the guard around it, and wishing I had one. And the fact that there's no doorbell out there.

[A]

Is that true?

[C]

Yeah, honey, there's a defunct doorbell. The real doorbell is like, once I've let you in. It's really stupid. We need to fix it. But there's a doorbell once I've let you in the gate. Right. But I'm like, if I've let you in the gate, I know you hear,

[A]

you don't get your ring. That's true.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But anyway.

[C]

But I don't, though. I kind of like that the doorbell don't work.

[A]

So basically, so someone coming to your house, you have to know they're coming. They have to have your phone number. I mean, there's a lot about this that I like because that means, like. No, wait. The word isn't loiter. What's the word? What is the word?

[C]

What's the word? Guys, we need a fact check.

[A]

What's the word when someone. Solicitors.

[C]

Solicitors.

[A]

Loiters.

[C]

That's just loiters hanging around. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Is there ever a sign that says, like, no loitering? Yes, but that doesn't mean. Come to that, that I've seen no loiter private property. So basically, don't come and hang out. But I don't want someone just being like, hey, we're. We're selling.

[C]

I mean, anything.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You literally cannot sign this. Because it was always weird that come so now. And it's kind of annoying. I'm like, lock the gate behind me and then, like, walk up the. Into the house. And I'm like, but I like it. I do. I do like them.

[A]

Anything that makes you feel safe, I like.

[C]

Thank you. Yeah, that is true, Fred. You're a real one. I really want that discovered. Thank you.

[A]

I'm sorry, I'm. I Want off? Off Mike and Cam. I want to know like where and how and.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, okay. Because I know it's such a project.

[C]

It is a project. The renovation. The renovation nation. It's something. Yeah, it's. It's really something.

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[C]

Wait, Darcy, you're from the Bay Area?

[A]

Yes, yes, I'm from the Bay Area.

[C]

And for the people listening only, that is the sound of Darcy wiping the arm of the mic.

[A]

Just doing a little. A little dust called.

[C]

It's dust cream.

[A]

Mine's dusty.

[C]

The dust is calling you. Mine is dust tea.

[A]

Dust tea. The tea is that. It's dust. I'm from the Bay Area. I'm from a town called Danville which is like right next to Walnut Creek or Berkeley or this area.

[C]

I know the area code off the top of my dog. Is that right? Yeah. I'm weird. I know area codes. I can say it, right? Yes. You don't feel uncomfortable Cuz it's a whole area code. It's not 925. I just know area codes.

[A]

Why do you know that?

[C]

It's very weird. I don't know. It's a useless skill.

[A]

You know what's funny about 925? Is it.

[C]

It?

[A]

How does this even make sense? When I was a kid, a kid kid. It was 41 5.

[C]

Okay. And then that's San Francisco.

[A]

San Francisco. Yeah. And then it became 510, which I

[C]

think is maybe like East Bay. Why do I know? I'm from Baltimore.

[A]

This is. This is. This is Rain Man.

[C]

Yeah. East Bay, Oakland.

[A]

I mean, I love this. I love that, you know, this. And then it became 925, which I'm like, what does that mean? Does that mean over the course of my life, did, like, the Bay Area, did the barrier get so many more people?

[C]

I think they got too many people.

[A]

Too many like, that it needed. It's like, well, we run. We run out of numbers. I don't know.

[C]

People sharing phone numbers. How do you feel about your phone number being shared without your permission? Your express permission?

[A]

I kind of am like, huh.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

I mean, I guess it depends on who it's with, but I am like, okay, you put us all on a text chain together. That's totally different. If it's like, oh, my God, I can't believe we don't have each other's numbers or whatever. But if it is like introducing you to so and so or what I'm like, or. I don't know. I don't know. Got your number from so and so.

[C]

I feel like, okay, can I tell you? Okay.

[A]

That makes me feel like I need a Fort Knox. Yes.

[C]

A Fort Knox. I feel like. And I love you and allow me that you do know. But no one wants to seem like an asshole. So it's like, oh, it's just a little weird. But it's weird. I'm sorry. Full stop.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

Sorry.

[A]

Right?

[C]

It's weird. You should ask people. Guys, I already went on a rant about this, but I'm like, it's the weirdest thing. Where's the decorum?

[A]

Totally. You're right. You're right, you're right. Someone sharing your number, you have to ask.

[C]

Yeah. It's no problem. And it's probably a yes, but ask. Right, Right. It's not public. It's not public knowledge for a reason. And I'd say this at any stage in my life.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

I'd say it at any stage of my life. The difference between me and you is I'm like, I don't care.

[A]

No, no, no. I like that you did that.

[C]

I'm like, could be. Name my favorite artist.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Why did you give. Like, who is out in the world just loose giving my number all of

[A]

a sudden, like, racking my brains for. If I've ever done that. I'm sure I have, but I think I'm pretty safe or like, like, protecty. And I think even if the person is like, hey, do you mind giving me so and so's number? Even before I would respond, I would go to that person.

[C]

That's what you gots to do.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That's what you got to Darcy. But we're talking about all my high level life things right now. And I'm here to talk about you, girl.

[A]

Six inches.

[C]

Six inches. Oh, good. That's. Who taught you that? Your. Your producer?

[A]

I don't. It's on some podcast. Is that even six inches? I don't know.

[C]

It's like that big hand. Six. Oh, this, this. Maybe it's this.

[A]

Remember this move when you're a little

[C]

kid, like I do.

[A]

Kids are stupid.

[C]

They are dumb as hell. I was one scream one been one. Okay, you were in the Bay Area. You moved to la, did you. Have you done any other city?

[A]

I from. Yeah, I have. Here's what it was. Bay Area. Went to school in Ashland, Oregon.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

So that's four years. Moved directly to New York City. Lived there for 11 years.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

My whole 20s.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then moved here.

[C]

When you moved from Oregon to New York, were the people you went to college with like, whoa, Darcy's taking a leap somewhere. Okay.

[A]

A couple gals moved with. Like, we all moved together. Okay. Well, one of them did Summer Day Ross.

[C]

Summer Day Ross. Okay.

[A]

Name Day.

[C]

That's a beautiful name.

[A]

Beautiful name. Beautiful girl, beautiful dancer.

[C]

Beautiful gal.

[A]

Beautiful.

[C]

Okay, beautiful.

[A]

So we moved out to New York together, but there were a couple other people from our school that live there. But yeah, I think Oregon to New York was a big move. But I sort of. I, I. In high school, I was like, dead set on going to college in New York. Like, no question, that's where I was gonna go.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then when it became time to like, when do you submit for college? Senior year. Right. Of course.

[C]

I think no, like, no, you have to apply. God, what? Hell yes. Yes. Yes.

[A]

But around that time, all of a sudden it was like something switched and I got so, like, preemptively homesick. I was like, it's too far, it's too far.

[C]

Oh, wow.

[A]

And so I don't know what that was. It was like I was braver the younger I was.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So then I. My or Ashland, Oregon, Southern Oregon University has like a great acting program in Shakespeare. It's like, it's like a Shakespeare town.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And we had gone there a few times in high school and it was just like, it was the, like, you know, when you kind of go. Was that the right choice? I don't know. Moving to New York what did I miss out on?

[C]

Blah, blah, blah.

[A]

I'm like, it was great. It was the right choice. I didn't want to stay there longer than I did, but it was, like, perfect. And a great education.

[C]

Okay. See, I love that you're like, was that good? Did you buy it?

[A]

Do I believe that?

[C]

Does that sound. Well, I wonder. Do you have siblings?

[A]

A bunch.

[C]

Many.

[A]

One older, two younger.

[C]

Okay. I. Then I have a bunch as well. Yes, exactly. But I'm the baby. Gotta love me.

[A]

Good job.

[C]

You know that.

[A]

You know, Dinos, man. I am the. I'm the second.

[C]

Okay. Only one in entertainment. Are you?

[A]

Well, no, my brother's an editor, so that. That's, like. He's not on stage. Sure. Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

My brother edits animated movies and TV shows.

[C]

Oh, cool. I think that is very cool. Wow.

[A]

I know.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I. And then, like, my dad is a music guy, so he was, like, always playing in bands and stuff and would. Would dabble in. In acting. Was.

[C]

It was.

[A]

Would dabble in, like, plays, like community theaters.

[C]

Oh, fun. Were you excited about that as a youth for him? Okay.

[A]

You totally. I think, inspired. I was like, dad can do it. I can do it. You know, Like. Like, I remember seeing him in a play and, like a church play and going. I want to say backstage, but that just means behind the church, I guess. Yeah.

[C]

And, like.

[A]

Right. And like, watching them all kind of like. Like, put on their little makeup and, like, you know, say, like, got your back or whatever. And I was like. I was in awe. I was just like. I would go. I don't think my other siblings would come to the play every night. I would, like, go to the play every night and watch it. And I have the kind of brain or, like, imagination where I'm, like, all consumed with it, you know? So I. It's. I'm, like, going to a play. It still is like this or a movie. I, like, can't think of anything else but what I'm watching. I'm like a little kid like, my brain overactive or. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. But it was definitely like that, where I was, like, sitting on the edge of my pew, you know, And. And then. Anyway, so that was a little taste of, like, I want to do this.

[C]

So then when you were like, I want to then presumably study theater.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

In college. Your parents were supportive.

[A]

They were supportive. They were okay. It's so funny. Like, my dad, not at all, like, a rewriting of history, but his mem. You Know you only know what they presented you. Sure. With. So my dad is like now he's like, there were times where I tried to kind of get you away from it. Yeah, but I'm so glad you didn't. But. And I was like, oh, I never

[C]

felt that you're like, I was so oblivious to your body.

[A]

I think so. I think I was like, I was so I know you, you wanted to study medicine, right?

[C]

I did study biology. I did. I didn't want.

[A]

Okay, you did. But I did study biology, so I never had that. I never had like another, like, if this doesn't work or, or even like, oh, maybe I'm better at this. It was just like once I realized you could do this as a job, I did. I just couldn't think of anything else.

[C]

That's amazing.

[A]

So I was. They were supportive and nervous, but supportive.

[C]

Okay. Yeah, that's very cool. And then to go to Southern Oregon University, from there to New York and you said this thing about not sure if maybe you should have gone straight to New York, what that might have afforded you. I interestedly have that sometimes about. I went to USC because I wanted to be an actor, but I was studying biology. Whole family thing. I've said it a billion times. I shan't bore you. Well, what if someone's listening for the first time?

[A]

Google, go back, Google one interview.

[C]

You just get tired of talking about yourself and like, I want to hear this fun, interesting thing about me that's

[A]

especially for the, the listeners that have heard it a million times.

[C]

I'm like, guys, I'm sorry, but. But if you don't know, Google it, which is cocky. You'll find it. I've just said it so much. Yeah, but I did say biology. But I went to college here in LA and I. After all is said and done, I mean, I'm still alive after college at

[A]

the end of my day. I know, I know.

[C]

But I was like, I don't know if I needed to go to LA for college. Maybe my college could have been somewhere else. I just thought I need to get to where the acting happens. Even though I did none of it,

[A]

I felt the same way. I feel like I think it was fine that I didn't, but I, I, while I was in Oregon, I was sort of like, they're passing me by, you know? Or like, like I always have had. Do you have this? Or did you have this? Or do you still have this? Like, do you. I would. As a kid, knowing that I wanted to be an actor, I would like Compare my life to kids on tv and I'd be like, wow, they're already on tv.

[C]

Well, yes, Yes, I had. Had that. Yes. I'm like, the Disney dreams are exactly right.

[A]

So I guess that's not gonna happen.

[C]

I'm auditioning for SNL now because I'm not gonna be a dis. Yeah, totally. Totally.

[A]

So there were. There were enough, like, things, like, I really held onto that where I was like, I guess I'll never be Rudy Huxtable. But. But the. That. The college thing was. That came hardcore where I was like, I fucked myself. Like, I. That would have been four years that I would have been that much further in New York. And it's like, no, in reality, like, you're just. I don't know. Let college be college.

[C]

I think so. I think that's good advice. And I think. I wish I had. I did let it be, but I would have maybe done it differently. I might not have gone to school in LA maybe if I was sort of like, yeah, just take your time and let college be college. If I had that mindset, it all works out. It's worked out for you, if I may say. Pretty sure.

[A]

Same.

[C]

We're doing all right. But it is an interesting thing where you're, like, negotiating and doing the math and like, oh, that's four years. I felt that way even then. Again, about UCB not realizing UCB was here during my whole college experience.

[A]

So then you're like, I could have been taking classes.

[C]

I could have been taking classes the whole time, and I would have been further along and I would have.

[A]

I did the exact same thing with UCB where it was like, a lot of people would take class one after another, and I would, like, take class and love it. And then I would, like, go do a play and then come back and everybody else was in, like, two levels ahead of me. And, you know, but I would go do another play or whatever and. And I. I would. I would. Yeah, kind of. What. What does self flagellation mean?

[C]

Does that mean you're like, oh, like, that sounds right.

[A]

Yeah, I like it. I would, like, feel naughty. Yes, you're doing this wrong. But yeah. And then now we can say, now that we're 80 years old, we can be like, and it all worked out, but at the time, you just don't know. And also, it's fun to play, like, Sliding Doors.

[C]

It is. But then I'm like, is there a way? So I took a class in college called the Science of Happiness, and spoiler the whole thing Is that the people who are able to be present are the happiest.

[A]

Okay, wait, let me focus on the past who are able to be present.

[C]

Cool. Cool. Yes.

[A]

Cool.

[C]

So not over. Not thinking about the past, not thinking about the future. Who are just like, I'm here. It's now. It is. Well, you know. Yes. Did a whole semester. Paid a lot of money for that. That's what that was. Could have put it, put it in a pamphlet. So I, I just think that there's. It's so easy to do the sliding doors thing for all of your life. You're like, no, if I had just.

[A]

I know.

[C]

Maybe if. And, and there's something to be said for being like, it's all working out how it's meant to.

[A]

And I, Yeah, I subscribe to this 100 billion percent.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I don't really. I. I don't, I want. I don't want to say I don't believe in regrets, but I think I don't.

[C]

I love this, as you say with a villainous laugh.

[A]

Yeah. I'm like, yeah. I think, do you have a regret? Like, if someone was like, what's your biggest regret? I'd kind of be like, fuck you,

[C]

you'd beat them up.

[A]

But I mean, I'm sure you have like, I wish I didn't say that thing to that person or whatever. But I think as far as like big old choices, you just gotta like. I think you gotta. I think you gotta like, own it. Love it. I don't know. I don't know. I really like this.

[C]

I do. It's good. No, it's good because I feel like if you're able to be present, you have truly unlocked a thing. That's what the whole entire course was.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I feel like it's what meditation is asking us to do so much of like self helpy things is. It's like just, it's be here also

[A]

one of the reasons why you're such a good improviser and performer.

[C]

Oh, thank you.

[A]

Don't you think?

[C]

Well, it's, it's true. I think it's a big, It's a big part of it. I was a better. I say I was a better person when I was doing improv regularly because I was just like, like, it's all good. I know it's gonna be all fine because I'm in the practice of yes. And all the time on stage, I'm like, bring that to life.

[A]

No problem.

[C]

And I don't do it as much anymore. I miss it. Yeah.

[A]

We did it for the listeners at home.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Watchers. We did a fun little week in. In Washington D.C. a couple years ago. Yes. Biden was president.

[C]

Oh my gosh.

[A]

At the different lifetime.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

At the Kennedy Center.

[C]

And my dog Ch. Chief came.

[A]

I was. He was brand new.

[C]

He was brand new to my life. Chief.

[A]

It was just like a special little few days week. I don't remember what it was.

[C]

Yes, it was like almost. I did, I did half a week. I know that with touring I'm a little like enough after three and I think that about like three nights anywhere, low key. Even on vacation. Are you a good vacationer?

[A]

I think. Let's see. Good vacationer. I think I am. As long as it's like the way I want it to be. Oh my God.

[C]

When you hear yourself, you hear it. But the thing about it is that I agree. You know what I mean?

[A]

And I'm not even saying like, no, maybe I was about to say like it's not even like a, like a luxury snobby thing. But maybe that is also, I'm sure, part of it. Yeah, but it's like the way I want it to be. So like Jason Husband and I went on vacation together, Hawaii a couple years ago. And we realized after the first night of like eating out at the fancy restaurant that we were like, we don't want to, we don't want to do that again this entire time. We want to order room service and play cards in our room every single night.

[C]

Oh, it was so great.

[A]

We would open the, like the, the, you know, like we were staying on the, on the ocean, on the beach. So we just opened the doors and we put our little card table out on the porch and we would like eat a burger or whatever and play cards and go to bed at like 9:00'. Clock. That's what I mean. Like that you make the vacation what you want it to be. And yes, like, great.

[C]

I understand. There's just no pressure to be following an itinerary. You can just fully listen to yourself and like, this is what I'm feeling right now. We're gonna do that.

[A]

Right?

[C]

That's really nice. I gotta get back to Hawaii.

[A]

I know, me too.

[C]

I. What are we doing? What are we doing? We gotta get, you know. Well, here's the thing. The first time I went to Hawaii, which is the only time I've been to Hawaii, I was shocked by how far the flight was from here. Because in my mind I had decided it was like a three hour flight. It's not from la.

[A]

It's the same as la.

[C]

It is to New York. Exactly. How dare it? Why would you be that far? Girl, get over here. You're in America, away from us. Hawaii. You're with us.

[A]

You are part of us.

[C]

Girls.

[A]

Self confidence.

[C]

Get over here. Why would you be so.

[A]

Come here. Oh, my God.

[C]

Dad, we get it. We get it. You're prettier, whatever, but you can be with us.

[A]

Yeah, I like that place too. We gotta get back.

[C]

We should go. Yeah, at some point. Okay.

[A]

Let's go shoot something over there.

[C]

Let's. You were shooting some things somewhere beautiful. Dominican Republic.

[A]

Dominican.

[C]

You were in the Dominican Republic doing something. Shotgun.

[A]

Shotgun wedding.

[C]

I know these things because I auditioned, okay? Not for your role.

[A]

Great.

[C]

No, don't worry.

[A]

Great.

[C]

We all have no business.

[A]

And also, what if I brought you here to confront.

[C]

Can I talk to you? Can I actually want to talk to you?

[A]

I really wanted that role.

[C]

So there was it in May20.

[A]

A very funny podcast.

[C]

May 2023. I actually read for that.

[A]

I read for that. Did I get a call back?

[C]

No, nothing.

[A]

I was one of many.

[C]

They said they were going in a different direction and. Hello. Yes, you did. That. That was really. That looked beautiful from a distance, watching,

[A]

you know what was like so great about that? It was. Okay, wait, 21 or. I feel like it was like. Oh, yeah. It was pre vaccine. So it was a year into Covid. We went to the Dominican. I hadn't like, had a meal with a new person in a year. You know what I mean? It was like that. It was like. I hadn't gone. It was that fresh still. It was. Yeah, just one year. So I hadn't like been to a restaurant. I hadn't made a new friend. You know what I mean? So it wasn't just beautiful, fun. It would have been great no matter what, but it was like very. We were this cast bonded so hard because of it. And this is the crazy thing. We lived in a house together. Maybe that was also a Covid thing. Wow. A nice. The nicest house you can possibly. It was like a hotel house, but it was. We ate every meal together.

[C]

Roommates.

[A]

Roommates.

[C]

Oh, that's fun.

[A]

So it was really special. Special. Special.

[C]

That's so fun.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Darcy.

[A]

I wish you.

[C]

I could have been at the house.

[A]

I know.

[C]

What Fucking bitch got my.

[A]

I know. I do want to know.

[C]

I'm like.

[A]

I don't even know. I know how good it was.

[C]

So funny. My manager the other day was like, yeah, you are. You took a. For this movie that did very well. Some. Some other thing. And I was like, no, I didn't. This is yesterday. I was like, no, I didn't. I was like, I never met anyone about that movie. And he's like, yes, you did. And I was like, no, I didn't. And I'm looking in my email, I was like, I see. I see no such thing. It had a different title than what it was when it came out. And then he's like, no, I know that this happened. And he's like, it happened March, whatever, of whatever year. And I was like, it's crazy how I have. I truly have no recollection of said meeting.

[A]

Am I crazy that you kind of have to.

[C]

I think.

[A]

I think you do. Yeah. Yeah. Neither of us finish that sentence, but we know what we mean. You have to like, you have to like, again, actors talk.

[C]

Actors talk on IR podcast. Listen, Think about it.

[A]

But it is like, you kind of have to, with these meetings and auditions and reading for things, like, you kind of have to flush it down the toilet of your mind a little bit. Otherwise it's, like, painful.

[C]

It is awful. What did you do for yourself after auditions? Like, or when you were not in the working phase?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Especially then, like, post audition, throwaway sides. Are you, like, hopeful and holding on?

[A]

Oh, my God, I'm such a hope. I'm such a holder onto okay. Even to this day. In fact, I got news back on a movie yesterday that they're going, wait, do you want to hear the line? Yes, we think Darcy is a queen, but it's. We think Darcy is a queen, but this isn't. It wasn't. This isn't the right thing, but I don't think this is the one. Okay.

[C]

And so. Huh? Okay. What?

[A]

And I was like, I'm. Throw the sides away.

[C]

Throw that side away. But also at least make it connect, because what a start. We think Darcy is a queen, but this isn't her kingdom.

[A]

Right? Yeah, exactly. You're gonna use the metaphor.

[C]

I'm like, go all the way. Why'd you fall? Why'd you drop off there?

[A]

But okay, you know, there's like the zoom audition.

[C]

Absolutely not.

[A]

Okay. Not for you.

[C]

I can't do that. I don't understand.

[A]

Would you prefer a self tape to a zoom?

[C]

I don't want to do either.

[A]

I.

[C]

So, like, is that why I'm not working?

[A]

But I'm with you, like, in person again for. For watchers and listeners at home. The options are basically like, you send in a tape of yourself that you made yourself you zoom with a casting person and you do the scene or you go into the room. And since COVID it has been. It's become mostly not in the room.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But I. I mean, I. I can count how many self tapes I've done. I hate them like the devil.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And so zoom has become like. Like I'm actually really into it.

[C]

You figured out soon. I need to talk to you about your zoom technique. I will, actually, because I just don't understand. I'm like, so where am I supposed to be looking? Into the lens? Into you in the screen. I'm making eye contact with the lens. I don't understand. So I'm looking at.

[A]

One person told me the lens. So I did that. And I was like, this is.

[C]

Someone told me the lens as well,

[A]

and I was like, the person you're doing it with.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Also, then you can't. Like, that's. No, I mean, this is the whole thing. Oh, my God. Actress talk down. But, like, this is the whole thing that I hate about. About self tapes is that you're acting with, like, no one. You're acting with, like, your friend's voice that you're like, be quiet.

[C]

Yes. And I've also. I've acted with friends who are on FaceTime. Yes. With me. It's stupid.

[A]

You're not actually. You're acting in, like, such a bubble.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And if I feel like. With zoom, if you're looking down the barrel, you're doing the same thing.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

If you're looking at your reader, your person you're doing the scene with, you can at least, like, use our skills, which is listening and reacting.

[C]

Yes. Yes. My Internet's not strong enough for a zoom.

[A]

I know it's scary.

[C]

I just want to say.

[A]

Bring us into the goddamn room.

[C]

Just get me in the room, honey.

[A]

Offer only.

[C]

Offer only. What are we talking about? The audition. I'm sorry. Like AO said, the Good Place, Barry, A League of Their Own and Sunny Nights and. And Shotgun Wedding. The resume is resume and give my girl a job offer down. I need to be your agent.

[B]

Offer only.

[C]

Do you know who the she is? All of a sudden you stop getting jobs because your agent is awful and aggressive, and then I get them. So I was all part of that. And also, I want us to do something together because you did. We're gonna make it happen. It's gonna happen. You just worked with Sherry Cola.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And so did you. Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I mean, but I feel like everyone just works with Sherry Cola because I'm Sherry posted something Else again today. And I was like, girl, is she never not working?

[A]

Take a day at home.

[C]

Take a day of rest. The Sabbath.

[A]

Okay, so today is. Is March 3rd.

[C]

Yes. Yes.

[A]

And yesterday, okay. A show that Sheri and I did together called Wild Vacation Rentals, okay. On hgtv, came out.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

What's this?

[A]

Did you know this?

[C]

I did not know this. Why didn't anybody tell?

[A]

No, no, no. I didn't even say. I didn't even. I, I. I'm. I'm dropping it now.

[C]

No. Okay. Wild Vacation Rent. Because I saw you guys were. Were bopping around.

[A]

You were bopping.

[C]

And I was like, they live together now.

[A]

I know. I know.

[C]

You and Sherry, though. I was like, I want to be where they are.

[A]

I know.

[C]

I wish you were.

[A]

Oh, my God. Wait, I wonder. I'm like, already. I am already seeing a season two where we have guests.

[C]

Please.

[A]

It was really fun. It was. We. We go. We went to so many different states, and we stay in rental places. Rental properties that are, like. I would say crazy is not quite the right word. Like, unique.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, we stayed in a cave.

[C]

Okay. I don't want to know.

[A]

It was gorgeous. A gorgeous, like, luxury cave.

[C]

Okay. Okay.

[A]

We stayed in, like, a little potato house. That's right. It's called a potato. We stayed in, like, a missile silo. These are all, like. They're all well done, like, beautiful, you know, Rentals.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

But there. There's not one single normal house. Everything is, like, wild.

[C]

Did you have. Did you have a favorite house?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Are you allowed to say?

[A]

Well, actually, I guess I'm not allowed to say because the show does. We do, like, pick our favorites.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Then don't say there's, like, like, there's, you know, there. We stayed at a place with, like, a. Like, an animal sanctuary where, like, animals would come up to you, you know, like an ostrich or a goat or whatever. We stayed in. In a. A couple of missile silos. Truly, the potato was amazing. Like a tree house. A couple different tree houses. Most. Most of them were amazing. Like, the couple. A couple. You were kind of like, I'm good. Yeah. But everything was at least, like, very unique and cool and. And Sheri is just, like, such a fun person, and it was so fun to do with her and very small crew, and we just. It was one of those ones where when we all. Like the first couple days as we were starting out, we were kind of like, what is this?

[C]

Yeah. Not sure what exactly. Driving for four hours. Okay.

[A]

And then, like, very Quickly. It was just like, oh, this is a really nice moment in my life, like to be traveling with these people.

[C]

Do you get the sad, like, post camp, like, end of camp, dealing with every production?

[A]

A lot of times, even when I want to go home or even when I'm like, I think my brain has trained itself to be like, you're done now. So I do have the feeling of like, it's time to go home. But I do get a little blue and also a little untethered where you're kind of like, where am I? Who am I? Where do I live? What is my life?

[C]

What a strange thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So good place, though, was the. The first big, big one. Right. You, I feel like, told me a little bit about your test.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Once sense. Do you messed up? Yeah. In your test.

[A]

Good memory?

[C]

I have a sick. My memory. It's. I don't mean to gas myself. Yeah, Sick. I didn't mean it like sick how these people say sick. I meant it like, it's twisted sick.

[A]

Right, Right.

[C]

You have. It's. That's such a. I was. It's weird.

[A]

Never lose that.

[C]

Thank you. I'm gonna try. Hold my hand. Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

There was.

[A]

Okay, so. So there was, you know, a bunch of auditions to play Janet. And then the test is like a different thing.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Where you. Where a test is like, there's other people in the room and it's just more serious. You're like. You see who you're up against. There's a couple, you know, other actresses that are up for the same role. You've all signed a contract. It's very. It's a mind fuck. It's actually like, messed up.

[C]

It's messed up. It's really evil what they do.

[A]

Evil. Yeah.

[C]

To us to try to get chops.

[A]

It's like some old fashioned. It's like old Hollywood. Like, we're gonna break these accidents.

[C]

How do we make you feel as uncomfortable as possible? Then what do you do?

[A]

So I. So anyway, we did this scene and there was like a pretty long monologue and it was just. It was like going well. And then I like, I was. Anyway, I was feeling good and then I botched the lines up and had that second where you're like, do I. Do I start over? Like, what do you do in this moment? And instead, thank you to UCB gods. I was able to, like, this is a weird little brag. Able to just use it. Right. To comment on it in character and which, you know, like, it worked in the moment. I'm like, I don't know if that's the advice I'd give anyone, but it was like, you know, in character, talking about how I messed up and getting back into it and it made them laugh. And I. And afterwards I was like, I do think that that helped me get the job. Yeah. Yeah, I think.

[C]

Did you. In real time. So you leave the room. Were you like, okay, I messed up. But that went. I think that went well.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

You still felt that. Okay, cool.

[A]

But I also was like, I didn't get it. You know what I mean?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I. I felt that every time that I auditioned for Janet where I was like, I know I didn't get it, but that felt really good, you know? Like, I absolutely didn't get it. Couldn't get it. Will never get it.

[C]

Yeah. Okay. Protection.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

But that felt good. Like, that couldn't have felt better. Better. Yeah. Which is kind of cool, looking back on it, because it was like, oh, it did work. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

I mean, I think that you. We are doing actor talk. It's fine. And we've submitted to it. We'll stop. We'll stop commenting.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Except for. No, we won't.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Do you. The, the feeling of, like, I don't know, the. The, like, I don't really care. Maybe I don't care and this isn't going to go my way and like, I just screwed up and now I'm going to use it in character. And this is not in the script. And we're all here to say the lines. Yeah. In the script. Do you think, like, having that energy, though, and that vibe of like, I don't care is helpful to you in booking, like, when people say, bring yourself to the role, do you think they're trying to see improv? Do they think, like, what do you. How do you take any of that?

[A]

I do think. I think, what a.

[C]

Nothing. No, no. But there's something.

[A]

There's something. It's not nothing.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. And you answer it too, because I'm like, I think it does maybe like a full on I don't care is probably not so helpful, but sort of. I think that the taking too ser. Taking yourself too seriously and too desperately is a turn off. Whether people know it or not. Like whether the person you're auditioning for or whatever it is, interviewing with whatever it is, like, whether you know it, whether they know it. There is something I think that is like, like repulsive. A little bit.

[C]

Yeah. I think that's accurate.

[A]

Maybe.

[C]

I've been on the other side of having to, like, say, yeah, you're the person for this job. Yeah. And anytime someone is too eager beaver, I'm like, what is this energy? It's actually almost offensive.

[A]

Right?

[C]

I was like, it's so disingenuous and weird and it's making me uncomfortable.

[A]

It makes you uncomfortable?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you're kind of like, well, now I'm thinking about, do I want to, like, do this project with this person that's going to bring this energy, which they probably wouldn't even do. It's because they're in the craziest situation, which is that they have to, like, sing for their supper or whatever.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

It isn't right.

[C]

Yeah. It's messed up.

[A]

It's not good. It's really bad.

[C]

It's messed up.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But then do you like that moment because you did the improv because you messed up? When audition testing for Janet, do you then try to take that energy? That thing? Has any part of you been like, that's the thing that helps me get the job. And so now I want to take it into my other auditions?

[A]

I think so. Yeah. I think so. But it is also so funny to think, like, if I, like, purposely messed up now going forward. You know what I mean? If I was like, purposely, like, okay, fuck up and then fix it.

[C]

Yeah. And that becomes your Hollywood reputation. So she's gonna come in here, mess up a line in the middle, watch and improvise.

[A]

I have heard a couple stories about two actors in particular.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Two that did that type of thing. Like. Like, like did something that. That in the moment was like a. Off. Off track, and it worked. And so they did it every time. And. And both of them got caught. I wanna tell you.

[C]

Oh, tell me off camera.

[A]

Off camera.

[C]

Maybe you say it on camera for the substack. There is no substack.

[A]

Okay. For the sub stack.

[C]

Wait, I'll actually.

[A]

I'll even, like. I'll even, like, one to one.

[C]

It.

[A]

I'll change what the story is. Okay. So one person.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Would come into auditions. I'm just gonna. I'm gonna make this up on the fly.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. And I was gonna say burp, but that's not quite right.

[C]

Take your time.

[A]

Like, take your time.

[C]

Take your time.

[A]

Or like. Like sit. Sit on the floor. Yeah, that's what they would do. They'd come in and they'd sit on the floor. Okay. And they really kind of put people like, like, oh, what's happening? And. And they'd be like, you guys, come sit on the Floor, too. Okay, so let's say that's what it was.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And then they did that every time. And then someone was like, I like the way that person sits on the floor. And they were like, oh, they sat on the floor with me.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Okay. And then another person went into an audition and was like, I'm gonna go hard on this one, and was like, I'm so sorry I'm late. My mom just died. Okay, again, I'm making this up.

[C]

Okay, okay. Okay. Yeah.

[A]

And then it worked. The person got the role. And then this person did that again numerous times, until their agent was like, you have to stop saying that. It's, like, gotten around that. You keep saying, your mom's died. Anyway, that's pretty funny.

[C]

Okay, that is funny.

[A]

Do you wish I was telling you the real stories and the names?

[C]

I do, but we're going to sub.

[A]

I don't really know what substack means. Is it like a journal?

[C]

It's like, you're. You're going to want one. Just know that you're going to want one.

[A]

Like a. Like a Tumblr.

[C]

It's like. It's like, yes. It's like. It could be a newsletter. It's like a Tumblr. It's giving.

[A]

I respect anyone that has a substack, but whenever they, like, check out my substack, I'm like, I'm blind.

[C]

I can't. I can't see. I can't.

[A]

So sorry that I'm just blind.

[C]

I literally can't read.

[A]

I literally don't have eyes right now for this.

[C]

For subsect some subs. Fair enough. I mean, that's funny. Darcy, I do wish you were telling me. I like to tease things that won't. We won't say on air because I want people to feel part of our conversation. I would like to tease them and say they're going to go on a sub stack one day.

[A]

Someday.

[C]

Someday.

[A]

A substack could be your book. It could be called my substack.

[C]

Have you written a book?

[A]

God, no.

[C]

Thank you. Right?

[A]

Because, I mean,

[C]

I can't do that.

[A]

But I do read a lot of. This is so, like, Demon. Not even pathetic. But it's like, why do I refuse to enrich my brain with something worthwhile? I read so many actor memoirs.

[C]

Oh, but you like what you like.

[A]

I know, but read about a war once.

[C]

You know what I mean? Here's my thing about a war is I believe you. I believe it happened.

[A]

I don't need to know.

[C]

I don't want to know what they were eating. I don't want to know what they were eating. I hate that that happened. I'm so sorry. And I'm sorry. And I'm glad we've moved forward to here. Yeah.

[A]

But I like, when it comes to podcasts, I'm listening to my dumb funny friends make jokes. And when it comes to books, I'm reading about actors. Do you.

[C]

Do you read, listen to any self help ever?

[A]

I really don't.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And I know that like. Like, I've been sort. I've realized that it's like it either works for you. It either speaks to you or it doesn't. Because I have a couple friends that are so into self help and I've sort of, like, perused and I'm like, this isn't speaking to me.

[C]

It's not. You're not vibing with it.

[A]

But then I'm like, think of the help that I'm not getting.

[C]

And then you're like, oh, yeah, I

[A]

should get into something. I should get into something thing.

[C]

You're doing okay by my metric.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

What do I know?

[A]

Do you read a lot of self help?

[C]

Yeah. One of my favorite books is the Four Agreements.

[A]

Okay. So this is what I was about to ask you. Is this. What if. If I were to read anything, could it be this?

[C]

I would say read that. Knowing that when you open it the first time, I. I don't know what I was expecting, but it's like Toltec wisdom. And I was like, it's gonna be. I mean, it's gonna be so deep and profound. It's actually very accessible. Okay. And I think it's a really. I enjoy how simple and in some sense rudimentary it is. I think that's actually like that. That took me aback initially and I was kind of like, oh, whatever. But then. But it's good. It's one of my favorite.

[A]

That's like the best ad.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

For this book. Oh, yeah.

[C]

Thanks. Yes. I think I'm a fan of it.

[A]

The four.

[C]

The Four Agreements. There's Four Agreements. My favorite of the agreements. Not that one is supposed to have favorite agreements. You're supposed to kind of do all of them.

[A]

Right.

[C]

But is. Don't take anything personally. Okay.

[A]

Cool school.

[C]

Which is. It's gonna unlock something for you.

[A]

Do you want to tell me the four agreements or do you want. Okay.

[C]

I.

[A]

Or is it like a spoiler?

[C]

No, I'll tell you.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

The first agreement is be impeccable with your word, which is not what you Think it means. But be impeccable with your word. Don't take anything personally, Never make assumptions. And always try your best.

[A]

Incredible.

[C]

Never try more than your best. I. Again, you read it. Okay. You don't have to try more than your best. 100. Don't say you gave it 110.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Don't ever give it 10. Give 100. Be cute. Cutesy, cutesy, cutesy. 100. Yeah. You don't have to do too much. And your best is different every day. But whatever, you're going to read it.

[A]

I love this.

[C]

Or you can listen to it.

[A]

Yeah, I like that.

[C]

If you want to do that. Do you do audiobooks? I do, yeah.

[A]

And I. And I. I had, like, guilt about it until one smart person was like, don't have guilt about it. Okay.

[C]

Okay, Great. Easy. All. That's all it takes, one person. Okay, Darcy, this is time for a segment called. That's Nice, but what about Me? Okay, great. Okay, Darcy, here's what I want to know from you. Because I feel like your expertise here. The vacation thing you said, right? How do you decide when, where and how long?

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I struggle with vacations.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And I'm so particular, so it's like, I need to have a method.

[A]

Okay. So I think you have to, like, ask yourself some questions. And one of them is, what. What do you. What is your perfect, like, companion on a vacation? Is it a sibling? Is it a best friend? Is it a group? Is it a lover? Like, what? And it can be as real. Like, there's no right answer. What do you wanna see the world with? Like, what makes the most sense to you?

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And then I think you know yourself. And you've said this today, that about three days and you're good. And not that a vacation can't be longer than that. But you probably know, I don't need to do two weeks or whatever.

[C]

Yeah, correct.

[A]

I think it's like, okay, but the other thing is, I don't think we're taking enough vacations.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

I think we're like, it's so hard to let yourself do it. And it's such a luxury and it's so not necessary that it's like, I'll do it later. Yeah. Like, there's this perfect week. No, actually, something came up. I'll just do it later. Yeah, but I think I always say, like I always say, in this moment,

[C]

say right now to me. And then you move on and say,

[A]

like, when I think back on my life, the best memories of my entire life are from a vacation. Like family vacation or. Or with Jason or with friends or whatever. Like, the. The. It really demarcates. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

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Oh, yes.

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It, like breaks.

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They say. Yes.

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It breaks up your life in a way where you're like. It's such a memory. It, like, breaks up the. Maybe like monotony or. Or it just. It.

[C]

It like.

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I feel like it expands us.

[C]

Yeah.

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You know, seeing new things and. And like being out of your comfort zone and.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And. Okay, so is this helping at all?

[C]

It is helping because I'm thinking, like, what I'm hearing. You're like, okay, is there anything. I'm making this up on the vlog. I don't. What I always say, girl. No, I. It does, because I, again, actual talk. Yeah.

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We.

[C]

Life just keeps lifing. And then it's like, oh, this thing is going to shoot here and this is going to do this. And I'm so grateful for all of it, but if you don't go, oh, my goodness, I booked a trip to insert location well in advance. It just doesn't happen. And you look back at the year and you're like, why am I so burnt out? And why am I so tired? I'm exhausted. I've lost the light in my eyes, and I'm like, I haven't taken any time off.

[A]

And so I think also. Actor talk. We. We tend to. We tend to look at these little jobs in foreign lands as like, well, I did get to go to the Dominican or Australia or Pittsburgh or whatever.

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Shout out.

[A]

Shout out. You know, like, I did get to go to that place this year's or this. Whatever. Like, you kind of can. Can. I did get to travel or we travel so much, but that ain't. Yeah,

[C]

it's tied up.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Okay. And now, you know what you said about, like, planning it a year in advance.

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Yes.

[A]

I feel like that is important. And also, yes, the idea of being flexible in a way where you're like, holy, this month is actually pretty clear. What if I take those three days in the middle of the month, you know, like. Like that I heard earlier.

[C]

Plan for. Yes. And exactly.

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I mean, I know I. Not that it's that easy.

[C]

No, I struck while the iron is hot. Is that. That's the expression?

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Depends on. On where you're going after.

[C]

I struck while the iron was hot. Yeah, yeah. And I booked a trip somewhere.

[A]

You struck while the iron what?

[C]

Struck. What are we talking about?

[A]

It's like I took advantage of my iron is.

[C]

Yes, I understand that, but strike while the Iron is hot.

[A]

So let's see. Like. Like, let's.

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The iron's only cooling down if you unplug it.

[A]

Wait, hold on. I don't think it's that kind of iron, is it? No, it's like. I think it's like iron. The metal. The metal iron. Like an iron.

[C]

And then what are we striking?

[A]

Maybe, like fire, you know, where they're, like, welding.

[C]

Oh, yes.

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That's what it is. Imagine. Imagine.

[C]

No, I will not imagine. And I'm not. I will not be imagining a single thing. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't do hand dealing.

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But.

[C]

Okay, so imagine.

[A]

Okay, wait. It's like that rod of iron that needs to be, like, shaped into a. Let's say a crowbar.

[C]

That's just a crime.

[A]

And you have to strike it while it's hot to shape it into that. Oh, but also, I think we can make yours work, which is like, strike the shirt while the iron is hot. I think that's also right.

[C]

Thank you. That is right.

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Because if you're. You're not gonna unwrinkle a shirt with. With a damn cold iron.

[C]

You're not. Okay?

[A]

Everybody knows that.

[C]

Thank you, Darcy, for having my back. I'm also like, wow, a lot of iron. Iron analogies, metaphors, turns of expression towards a phrase. Yeah, whatever. Another one. Iron sharpens iron. Which makes sense to me. Oh, my God.

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I don't even know that one. Although it makes sense to me, too.

[C]

Iron sharpens iron.

[A]

Is it. You kind of be like, well, iron sharpens iron. Well, when would you use it?

[C]

It's to be like, that person's really smart and good at their job or something. And it made me thus then, smart and good at my job. I spent a lot of time with Darcy, and, you know, iron sharpens. Yeah, cool. But I like that one. Makes more sense to me. But we've all learned today, and that's the purpose of the pod.

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So there's iron.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

There's iron, and then there's iron.

[C]

Iron tablets. Because a lot of women are anemic. I was one.

[A]

It's cold.

[C]

I'm so cold all the time. Because I was anemic.

[A]

I was anemic, too.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Green pills. Yes. And we have gray sweaters on. We almost wore the same outfit today.

[A]

I know.

[C]

Oh, Darcy, what a treat. But we have to help someone else. A listener.

[A]

We're ready. Hey, Eggo. My name is Kate, and I have a question for you and your guest. I have a Dog that I bring to my local dog park every day. And when my husband comes, he's very social. He talks to everyone there. But when I go by myself, some of these people think I also want

[C]

to have a 15 minute conversation with them.

[A]

I already know the answer.

[C]

Say I don't. Great.

[A]

So do you have any tips for how to respectfully get out of a conversation that you are not interested in having? Yes. Thank you. What's your name again? Kate.

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Kate.

[A]

Kate, just wear earphones. Just wear earphones.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Listening to something or not. Just put on the big ones, big ears. Not the little white. Not the little tiny boys.

[C]

Big overheads. Big ones, big overhead. You know, I was doing that for a week this summer.

[A]

You mean to try to not.

[C]

To try to not talk. Cuz I'm like, I. My walks sometimes are though it's New York City. Are because I need to feel air on my face and decompress and kind of go off into a far distant land. And I'm going to tell you. What about them big headphones? All it did was make people be like, hey, more, more. That's why I did it for one week.

[A]

You think it drew attention?

[C]

Yes, the attention was drawn. And I was like, no, wrong. I was like, this is the wrong.

[A]

The idea of making someone go, excuse me. I'm like, I would be mortified.

[C]

I would too. But you'd be surprised. People are not. But I do think the big headphones are a good fix. I'm hopeful for Kate at the dog park. I also think it's funny to be like that person never had headphones on at the dog park before. And then they come. Yeah. All of a sudden, was it me? Did I do. Was it me trying to talk to Kate about.

[A]

It's so funny that like that her just the idea that her husband's such a social butterfly and she. I mean that does. I think opposites attract. It's so cute to think that, like he does that work.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But when she's there alone, she's like,

[C]

oh, no, no, please. I mean, I think the headphones are awesome fix. And then what else?

[A]

Like a book. A book, for sure. God, people are dumb.

[C]

I know. People will be like, what are you reading? What are you reading? Oh no.

[A]

I mean you could pretend. That is psychotic. But I'm like, you could pretend to

[C]

be on a phone call the entire time. Why does she have to do all that work? That's not fair to Kate.

[A]

Be like, I'm every like 30 seconds to go, huh, yeah.

[C]

Uhhuh. Oh, you mean with the little ones? If, If Kate.

[A]

Or even holding a. No, that's scary. Cuz then they'll see the background. Okay. And then I guess the other thing is to be honest. But I don't recommend.

[C]

I can't. I don't think I could dare be like. I really don't want to talk.

[A]

That's crazy.

[C]

That would be insane.

[A]

I'm sorry I'm not as social. I'm sorry. I'm an introvert.

[C]

Yeah. That's. No, people don't. Extroverts don't know how to take that kind of feedback.

[A]

By the way.

[C]

Way extroverts can be violent. I have to say. Are you an extrovert?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You are.

[A]

But I love alone time. Yes. Within reason.

[C]

I think you might be an ambivert girl.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I don't know about that one. It's a little mix of both. I love being an intro extra. Yes.

[A]

I'm bi.

[C]

Yeah, you're bi.

[A]

I really think that. Yeah. Because I really like alone time.

[C]

That got me good.

[A]

I really like to sort of. But you know what I love? I love saying I love. Like this is. It's almost humiliating. I love striking up a conversation with somebody in line.

[C]

Really?

[A]

And my husband hates it. He's an introvert.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. My dad and I are both like if you're about to get. I just, I don't mean like where are you from at all. I just mean like just saying something to your neighbor in line. I love it. It feels so good.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Is that.

[C]

It's insane. It's not insane. And we love you for it and support you at this podcast.

[A]

It makes me feel crazy because I can see it from the outside.

[C]

It's good. I think those people. I think those people. I think those people are good. They're important. They're necessary to society. I value them from time to time. I have become so introverted post Covid.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Post snl. Where I like exerted so much energy being hehehe all the time. I'm so, I'm so like. I live in Fort Knox. Yes.

[A]

Remember?

[C]

And so I, I, I used to be a talk to every stranger all the time. Energized. But like with age and the COVID and all the other things I've said, I'm like, I've gotten like, we don't have to be talking. Totally.

[A]

Totally.

[C]

But I like that you're like when

[A]

it comes to my amni. Amnivert.

[C]

Ambi ambivert.

[A]

It's so on my own terms. Cause as you're saying that, I'm like, half the time, I don't want to talk to anyone, and I don't want anyone to.

[C]

I respect. See, I. I, That's. I resonate. Cause I'm like, sometimes I'm like, let's all talk. And then when I shut down, I'm like, everyone read the room.

[A]

Exactly. I sh. Like the idea of. I would. I'm like, I would never talk to someone next to me on a plane. Yeah, yeah. But it's like the quick little, like, in line, you know, the line would

[C]

not the line thing if I were victim.

[A]

Yeah, I know. Just kidding.

[C]

No, if I was on the receiving end of the line thing, it would genuinely just depend on the mood I'm in. Cause I actually could think it's, like, nice. Right. And when I can see that someone has struck up a conversation that, like, absolutely didn't need to happen, I'm like, you know, that's really cool that that's how you are.

[A]

Right.

[C]

I actually think it's cool.

[A]

Can I just be one step clearer?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

I would never. I mean, this. It's not a conversation. I don't know what the. What the need is. It's like, it's almost like I want to, like, compliment your nails.

[C]

Yes. Thank you.

[A]

And maybe we have, like, one more sentence, and then we're done. But I'm not asking your name, sex, location.

[C]

Okay. I don't want anything more.

[A]

It's like, I want to tell. I want to be like, oops, you dropped your hat. Like, have a good day.

[C]

Yes. Okay. That's it. You just want your friendly spirit.

[A]

I just want friend. And. And, yeah, I just want to kind of, like, connect with a person for a second.

[C]

Okay. And I'm okay with that, and I support it. And I think it's good we. You people like, that do make the world go round. It's when it's, like, aggressive and demanding of someone's full energy and that they'd be on, and I'm like. Yeah. I just wanted to say your hair is beautiful. And I'd be like, you. Yeah. What?

[A]

You're.

[C]

You're actually eating? Totally.

[A]

Ambi.

[C]

Yeah. Ambi. Ambie. Okay. Oh, my goodness. Darcy, thank you so much. I really appreciate you.

[A]

I love you, girl.

[C]

I love you.

[A]

I'm. I. I, like, am so proud of you.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

I have to say, I was. I was in the room for Lisa that first time you did it.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

And it was. I. You know, I'm, like, such. I mean, I love you. So dearly. But I'm also such a huge fan of you. And that was like. I had like tears in my eyes. So much pride.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

And just watching you, like the second I saw you at ucb, I was like, star. And then getting to like, watch the world see, that has been like, so rewarding. As your friend.

[C]

Thank you, Darcy, so much. And before we go, because we're saying sweet things is we did a show at the Inner Sanctum. Rest in peace, UCB Sunset. It's my first time I met you that show and it was like some kind of straight. If it was in an Inner Sanctum, it was a strange show. But you. We were performing together and you were like, get out there. And that st. That. That sticks with me all the time. Like not in a mean way. In the most supportive. Cuz I didn't know everyone else. It was like more senior.

[A]

I feel like I remember that it was.

[C]

And it was so loving and kind and I think. And that's when I think about you, I think about the support and kindness in that moment, sincerely. So.

[A]

It's a sweet memory.

[C]

It's a very sweet memory.

[A]

Well, yeah.

[C]

Great.

[A]

Okay. We love each other.

[C]

We love each other. And that's it. That's the end of Actor Talk.

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This is Actor Talk.

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