Eric André

Summary

Podcast Summary: Thanks Dad with Ego Nwodim – Episode with Eric André

Date: February 3, 2026
Host: Ego Nwodim
Guest: Eric André
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts / Big Money Players Network

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Overview

In this lively episode of Thanks Dad, Ego Nwodim welcomes the irrepressible comedian and actor Eric André. The show, which revolves around conversations about fatherhood, family dynamics, and life lessons, explores Eric's unique upbringing, his relationship with his father, and his career in comedy. As always, the episode balances uproarious humor with moments of honesty and vulnerability, offering listeners both laughs and unexpected insights.

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Main Discussion Points & Highlights

1. Introductions and Warm-Up Banter

• Ego kicks things off with her signature blend of vulnerability and comedy, riffing on her germaphobe tendencies and handwashing (05:55).

  “If you cough, cover your mouth. Why not? It’s cute. It’s chic. And not with your hand, with your elbow. The part when photographed closely looks like a vagina.” – Ego (06:30)

• She segues into welcoming Eric André, setting a playful and irreverent tone early on.

  “Eric, I heard you bring food sometimes to podcast.” – Ego (07:46)
  “Who said that? I'm fucking starving.” – Eric (07:56)

2. Physical Comedy and Icebreakers

• Eric starts stripping layers off, poking fun at his appearance and the studio environment, with Ego improvising a shirt-folding/fashion tutorial (08:00–09:50).
• The banter highlights their rapport and sets the comedic standard for the episode.

3. The Premise: Talking About Dads

• Thematic focus: Ego and Eric discuss the show's premise and quickly get personal. Ego openly jokes about her absent father, drawing a funny yet poignant parallel to Eric:

  “You remind me of my dad… In the sense that he was absent.” – Ego (10:20)

• Eric shares that he grew up in a divorced household, setting up a mutual recognition of complex family backgrounds (10:30–10:33).

4. Food, Friendship, and Social Rituals

• They explore their friendship through the lens of eating out—the perennial invitations from Eric that Ego never accepts.

  “I always invite you out to eat and you never come.” – Eric (11:36) “I actually almost texted you last week, but I thought… is Eric going to think that’s strange?” – Ego (11:38)

• Eric’s love of food and range of culinary experiences (from dating a chef to Nigerian cuisine) is discussed, including a failed attempt to schedule dinner at Department of Culture in Brooklyn (12:50–13:07).

5. Eric’s Wild Birthday Parties and Comedy Show Antics

• A highlight is Ego’s story about attending one of Eric’s infamously chaotic birthday parties—featuring naked performers hired off Craigslist (13:32–14:23).

  “Anytime they walked by and people were like, ‘who’s that?’ I’d say, ‘that’s my dad.’” – Eric (14:21)

• Eric reveals both outlandish fan interactions (including public vomiting for attention and extreme encounters during live shows) and effects of fame (15:00–16:49).

6. Eric’s Career Path: From Jazz to Stand-Up

• Eric gives an honest recounting of his upbringing:
  • Mother: Supportive, public school teacher from Harlem.
  • Father: Immigrant from Haiti, incredibly driven, wanted Eric to be a lawyer or doctor.
  • His Rebellion: Chose music (jazz at Berklee College), then switched to stand-up, much to his father’s chagrin (25:38–27:50).
• Defining Moment:

  “I just looked down at the Scantron and I broke my pencil in half, and I just like walked out and I was like, I’m gonna be a comedian.” – Eric (28:53)

7. Parental Reactions to Success

• Eric’s dad never really “got” his comedy, in part due to cultural and language gaps, but eventually understood after attending the red carpet for the Lion King premiere (31:34–32:25).

  “When we got there, it was me on stage with Beyoncé... and I think then it clicked. He's like, oh, my son is doing something.” – Eric (32:12)

• Both Eric and Ego share anecdotes about how their immigrant parents process their comedy careers, often focusing on practical outcomes over emotional response (31:02–31:09).

8. Mental Health, Personality, and Regret

• Ego probes Eric on whether he regrets interactions or the persona he projects:

  “Do you often regret how you engage with people genuinely?” – Ego (33:37) “Every day. God, I want a time machine. Are you fucking kidding me?” – Eric (33:59)

• Eric expresses self-awareness and the oscillation between self-confidence and cringe.

9. Sleep, Wellness, and On-Set Energy

• Eric shares his struggles with insomnia and newfound commitment to sleep hygiene, water, and electrolytes as a healthier source of energy on set (47:04–47:55).

  “My sleep was so bad. I had bad insomnia.” – Eric (48:25)

10. Plans, Projects, and Ownership

• Discussion of traveling to Nigeria, Eric's ambitions to film a travel-comedy series reminiscent of Anthony Bourdain, and the importance of artists owning their own work.
• Eric: “I'm just gonna make it myself and go bankrupt.” (52:40)

11. Listener Advice Segment: Relationship Questions

• [57:41] A listener asks about doubts in a long-term (8.5 years) relationship. Ego and Eric analyze the situation:

  “[It] sounds bored, like it plateaued, like she mined everything.” – Eric (58:35) “If your bar is super low… is it like, yeah, he’s nice. Shrug.” – Ego (59:03)

• Eric goes from genuine advice (go to couples therapy) to his signature outrageousness:

  “Dump them. You want advice? Dump that boring loser. Get some new dick. This guy’s a drip.” – Eric (59:31)

12. Monogamy, Long-term Relationships, and Dating Shrek

• Spirited discussion on monogamy versus ethical non-monogamy, personal growth, and imaginary dating scenarios (Shrek, eraserhead baby, etc.), blending comedic extremes with real talk about emotional needs:

  “You date someone, you like them, then you love them, then… after ten years, you can’t fuck anybody else.” – Eric (65:13)

• Eric expresses openness to long-term relationships but wants to retain a sense of freedom (66:06–68:18).

13. Friendship, Text Etiquette, and Ongoing Banter

• The episode ends with Ego and Eric playfully arguing about their lack of follow-through on dinners and mismatched communication styles (69:00–71:40).

  “You didn’t do your end of the bargain, which is continue the conversation.” – Eric (70:32) “He did not invite me. I gave up on you, literally.” – Ego (69:12)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Your personality is remarkably unique. And I mean that as a compliment.” – Ego (34:22)
• “It was very hard for him to watch me get butt-fucked by a gorilla... He just went, ‘that's a scene. When you watch it, you'll never forget it.’” – Eric (35:14)
• “Let go and let God. The universe provides.” – Eric (66:41)
• “Would you date Shrek? You ain’t fucking Shrek.” – Eric (63:00)

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Important Timestamps

• Handwashing & Germaphobia: 05:55–07:45
• Eric Arrives/Eating Banter: 07:46–13:07
• The Absent Father Jokes: 10:20–10:30
• Birthday Party Story: 13:32–14:23
• Wild Fan Encounters: 15:00–16:49
• Jazz to Comedy Story: 25:38–28:53
• LSAT Walkout: 28:53
• Dad Attending Lion King Premiere: 31:34–32:25
• Listener Relationship Question: 57:41–61:01
• Monogamy and Dating Shrek: 62:01–65:13
• Travel Show Plans: 52:01–53:02
• Friendship/Text Banter: 69:00–71:51

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Tone & Style

The episode is unfiltered, rapid-fire, and highly comedic, mixing Ego’s sardonic self-awareness with Eric’s impulsive, anarchic storytelling. Still, the show finds room for genuine conversations about identity, career choices, unresolved family dynamics, and the challenge of growing as an adult.

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For Listeners

This episode is ideal for fans of raw, unapologetic comedy, behind-the-scenes anecdotes, and those interested in how creatives wrestle with parental expectations and the tension between independence and connection. The conversation covers everything from bathrooom anxiety to relationship plateauing to the perils of private jets—never a dull moment, and no subject is off limits.

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Next up: If you have questions or want advice from Ego and her guests, leave a voicemail for future episodes.

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Thanks Dad with Ego Nwodim – Always hilarious, occasionally profound, and never sanitized (even if Ego wishes the same for your hands).

Transcript

[Ego Wodem]

This is an iHeart podcast, guaranteed human stigatz here.

[Taylor Stigatz]

I have a podcast empire that I have brought here to iHeart, and I'm also hosting a daily live radio show from 3 to 5pm Eastern called Stegazon Company Live, which is available in podcast form right when the show finishes every single day, you can expect a lot of laughter, great guests, a ton of calls, and a lot of fun. Listen to Stegots Co. Live and our original podcast, Dugatson Co. And God bless Football. And you can check all of those out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Narrator (Black History Podcasts)]

1969, Malcolm and Martin are gone. America is in crisis, and at Morehouse.

[Eric Andre]

College, the students make their move.

[Hans Charles]

These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson locked up. The members of the board of trustees, including Martin Luther King Senior, is the true story of protests and rebellion in black American history that you'll never forget. I'm Hans Charles.

[Eric Andre]

I'm Menelik Lumumba.

[Hans Charles]

Listen to the A building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Narrator (Black History Podcasts)]

Black history lives in our stories, our culture, and the conversations we still having today, this Black History Month. The podcast I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. Digs into the moments, perspectives and experiences that don't always make the textbook. Let me tell you about Garrett Morgan Bruh had to pretend he didn't even exist just to sell his own invention. Listen to I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. From the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or simply wherever you get your podcast.

[Ego Wodem]

Hello? Is anybody there? Are people listening? Are people watching? I hope so. Otherwise I'm just speaking into a void. There's apparently. Okay, apparently I have a hair sticking up and it might be sticking up for the. I got the one. Keep all of this in. Keep all this in. I want them to know. No, no, I'm keeping it in. We have to keep it and we have to be real. This is an authentic podcast. Sometimes hair sticking up. Guys, celebrity. It's not all it's cracked up to be. People slur their words. I haven't been drinking. It's just nerves. I'm not nervous. But I had a flyaway and there's four white people in the room and they. None of them felt comfortable coming to touch my hair to get the flyaway. Fair enough. My work here is done. But I do want to talk to you about something else. It is germaphobe season. I'VE declared it, so that means it's my season. I'm a germaphobe, as evidenced by one of these other rants I've gone on on the podcast about Reese shaking hands. But anyway, yeah, I'm a germaph. But why is everyone acting like germophobes are the weird ones? I think the germophiles are the weird ones. Guys, I have seen this happen. You're in the bathroom doing number one. Number two, number three, no one has to know you come out of the bathroom. A fellow citizen of the world comes out. They don't go to the sink to wash their hands. That's scandalous to me. I have been tempted to then follow them out of the bathroom, go to where they're going, be at another table at a restaurant, be at their workplace, and go. Do you know that Susan doesn't wash her hands? If Susan came out of the stall, Susan has to wash her hands. Even if she, like, moved the little lock. If you touch the lock, you gotta wash your hands. You have to. What's everyone. What are we not washing our hands for? I've had people say, I didn't get anything on it. And I mean, what do you mean by anything? Urine. I hope you did it. I hope you didn't get urine or poo on it. Your hands. But you should still wash your hands because bathrooms are dirty. Bathrooms are dirty. Society's dirty. Frankly, I'm a proponent of washing my hands. If you've ever seen me on a red carpet with a clutch, just know there's hand sanitizer and lotion in my clutch because I wash my hands when I go to the bathroom. And I do want a gold star for that. Sounded so proud. I wash my hands after using the bathroom every time, and I can't have dry hands. It also sends me. Maybe something is wrong with me. Anyway, germaphobes are not the weird ones. Germaphiles are. Guys, let's wash our hands when we come out of the bathroom. Just because one person's sick doesn't mean everyone's got to get sick. Is that crazy? No. They're saying no. And these people here are the people I listen to and trust. They tell me when there's flyaways on my head, they don't touch. They just tell, these are good people. These are very good people. And they say, I'm not crazy. I want to see people washing their hands. Send me videos of you washing your hands and singing Happy Birthday. Let the suds really build. I Was in a different country not too long ago last week. And none of the soap was foaming and it was stressing me out. And maybe some scientists will come and tell me that that's not necessary. And technically, I guess I am maybe a scientist because I have a biology degree. I don't know. But I thought the foam was necessary. But I'm also a foam addict, which is a different conversation for a different day. I want us washing our hands. I really want that for us. If you're a germophile, do it for me. Do it for the germaphobes of the world. Wash your hands after you use the bathroom. That's not too much to ask. Oh, and while we're on the topic, if you cough, cover your mouth. Why not? It's cute. It's chic. And not with your hand, with your elbow. The part when photographed closely looks like a vagina. Okay. Anyway, that's it for today. No, I'm actually going to be talking to someone. They're very fun. I love them. Chances are you love them. I know them. Chances are you know them. It's gonna be a good one. So keep watching and wash your hands. Maybe go wash your hands right now. And again, send me a video of you washing your hands. That's porn to me. Okay, stay tuned. Oh, my gosh. I'm back. I know I just told you we'd be talking to my guest, but I have to get this off my chest. When you go in the bathroom and the sign says employees must wash their hands, do we think those signs are effective? If the employee wasn't going to wash their hands before reading the sign, I have a feeling reading the sign doesn't make a difference. It maybe should say, employees must wash their hands, or they are. This offense is persecutable under the full extent of the law. I'm not a lawyer. I can't do legal speak. They shouldn't go to jail for it. But I'm just thinking, if you saw that sign and you weren't going to wash your hands and you were just going to walk out, do you then wash your hands because the sign told you to? You probably were so not intending to wash your hands that you walked past the sign anyway, didn't even take it in. The only people reading that sign are the people who are washing their hands. And make sure to get under your nails, too. See, in the little dirt under the nails. If we're not. Yeah, he's checking his nails right now. Everyone check your nails. The dirt under the nails. We got to get in there. The germs hide. They hide in there and you got to get them out. I was an allied health major in high school. Yes, my high school had majors. It was a magnet school. And one of the things we learned was how to properly wash our hands for surgery. None of us ever did surgery at all. Didn't come close. But I did learn how to wash my hands for surgery. And I think that it's. What we learned is far more intense than what surgeons may do. But anyway, you get under your nails, there's no reason for there to be. To get it out. I love you.

[Eric Andre]

I.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, I will talk to the guests next. Eric, I heard you bring food sometimes to podcast.

[Eric Andre]

Who said that? I'm fucking starving.

[Ego Wodem]

Somebody get us some food.

[Eric Andre]

There's a vending machine here. Are you gonna go get my pod here? I used to, but then we started doing gross stuff. We moved to Brooklyn.

[Ego Wodem]

Oh, so no I heart anymore?

[Eric Andre]

No, it's iheart. But it's like a shanty studio for.

[Ego Wodem]

It's like an insane asylum where anything can happen.

[Eric Andre]

Like, there's penetration on my show.

[Ego Wodem]

I won't ask any further questions.

[Eric Andre]

I can show you. But you're not. It's not.

[Ego Wodem]

Are you. Did you want to take your shirt off? I do look like you want to.

[Eric Andre]

I do.

[Ego Wodem]

Do it. We'll wait. Like a substitute teacher or not like, I'll wait.

[Eric Andre]

You gotta get the cap off camera.

[Ego Wodem]

Get the cap off camera.

[Eric Andre]

You take too hot in the thermal top off. Yeah, you take your top off.

[Ego Wodem]

I got the cap out.

[Eric Andre]

Thank you. Mr. Weinstein, I don't normally have 3:30am meetings.

[Ego Wodem]

I have no employment to offer you. Oh, we're going full tank top.

[Eric Andre]

Well, I didn't mean to. There's a layer that I want to get rid of.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Eric Andre]

Oh, but I want to put this layer back.

[Ego Wodem]

Take your time. We're still rolling.

[Eric Andre]

Otherwise I'll look like a super of your building.

[Ego Wodem]

You don't know what Hector looks like.

[Eric Andre]

I'm not far off.

[Ego Wodem]

Hector's bundled up. It's cold out.

[Eric Andre]

He's talking funny, but I'm not laughing.

[Ego Wodem]

Let me show you how to fold a shirt properly. Can I have that? Yeah. Okay.

[Eric Andre]

Smell it.

[Ego Wodem]

It's not as bad as I thought it was gonna smell. I'm gonna just show you quickly how to fold a shirt.

[Eric Andre]

That's what the premise of the podcast is.

[Ego Wodem]

Yes. Do you know how to fold them?

[Eric Andre]

And fold them? Lego my ego. Hold them and fold them.

[Ego Wodem]

I like that. I was Thinking about it. Wait, do you know how to do a bow tie?

[Narrator (Black History Podcasts)]

No.

[Eric Andre]

Why would I know that?

[Ego Wodem]

Because you've worn a tux before, right? Emmys or something. And someone else tied it for you. Okay, I just. Here we go. We got to make it a perfect square. That was chaotic.

[Eric Andre]

Wow.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, here you are.

[Eric Andre]

Wow. You're good.

[Ego Wodem]

You're beautiful. I used to work in retail.

[Eric Andre]

Really?

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. Abercrombie and Fit.

[Eric Andre]

Really?

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

When you were 19.

[Ego Wodem]

Shameful.

[Eric Andre]

Disrespecting your.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. So, Eric, how are you?

[Eric Andre]

Good. Eric, what's the premise of the pod?

[Ego Wodem]

The podcast is called thanks, dad. So thank you for being here.

[Eric Andre]

Thanks, dad.

[Ego Wodem]

Thanks, dad. You're my dad. For today.

[Eric Andre]

So you only interview men?

[Ego Wodem]

No, I did interview men in the first season, but in this, based on.

[Eric Andre]

Your dad, men that remind you of your father.

[Ego Wodem]

You do remind me of my dad.

[Eric Andre]

I do?

[Ego Wodem]

Yes.

[Eric Andre]

In what sense?

[Ego Wodem]

In the sense that he was absent. In the sense that he wasn't part of my life and that he told me he was coming, and then it would be like, is he still coming? Is he coming?

[Eric Andre]

You grew up in a divorced house.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

You didn't tell me that.

[Ego Wodem]

Well, because you've been spewing nonsense at.

[Eric Andre]

Me, like, give me an example of the things I spewed things. Like. And be on microphone. No, be on the microphone.

[Ego Wodem]

I see what you're doing here. Absolutely not.

[Eric Andre]

I don't want. I don't know what you're talking about.

[Ego Wodem]

The listener in on the conversation.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah, I agree. I'm trying. Okay, Eric, spread your wings and fly.

[Ego Wodem]

Eric, hold on. We need to rewind.

[Eric Andre]

Rewind the track.

[Ego Wodem]

We're rewinding. Who or what do you want to.

[Eric Andre]

Say thanks to you for having me on this gosh darn thing.

[Ego Wodem]

Thanks.

[Eric Andre]

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm so sad you're starving, though. When's the last time you ate?

[Eric Andre]

Like an hour ago.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, so you're a glutton. A true glutton. Okay.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah. Oh, now you're fat shaming me. No, you know, now I have body dysmorphia, thanks to you.

[Ego Wodem]

No, you don't have body dysmorphia. You always invite me out to eat.

[Eric Andre]

You fat shamed me publicly. No, recently. Very recently, Eric.

[Ego Wodem]

As in as like recently. It was a few seconds ago. Yeah, that wasn't fat shape.

[Eric Andre]

You. I always invite you out to eat and you never come.

[Ego Wodem]

I almost text.

[Eric Andre]

Bit rude.

[Ego Wodem]

No, no, no, hold on.

[Eric Andre]

You're getting a little big for your britches.

[Ego Wodem]

I don't even answer Your texts anymore.

[Eric Andre]

I know.

[Ego Wodem]

I don't even answer.

[Eric Andre]

No. It's appalling.

[Ego Wodem]

No, I actually almost texted you last.

[Eric Andre]

Week to be like, we do a movie together. You don't fucking treat me like, you know, yesterday's garbage.

[Ego Wodem]

I did almost text you last week, but I thought you might. What happened to be like, you know how you invited me out to eat multiple times this summer and I was never in town? I was like, maybe we should go eat. But then I'm like, is Eric going to think that that's strange that I go, let's just go eat? Because usually have these like elaborate plans. They're impromptu, but they're elaborate.

[Eric Andre]

I invite you to eat every. Every two weeks and you never come. And then if you invite me to eat, I'd be thrilled. All I love doing is eating.

[Ego Wodem]

Me too.

[Eric Andre]

Who doesn't like to eat?

[Ego Wodem]

Some people don't care. I've talked to them.

[Eric Andre]

Some people that. But they're lame.

[Ego Wodem]

That's. You said it, not me. I thought it.

[Eric Andre]

I love eating so much. I dated a chef once.

[Ego Wodem]

You did? Yeah. Oh, really? You also dated someone who worked at a restaurant once?

[Eric Andre]

Yep.

[Ego Wodem]

Are you still dating them?

[Eric Andre]

No.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, that's fine.

[Eric Andre]

What's going on with you?

[Ego Wodem]

I'm good. I'm excited to do pick ups, a reshoot for a movie. I'm really excited to do. I'm really excited to do reshoot.

[Eric Andre]

You want to eat Nigerian food with me in Brooklyn?

[Ego Wodem]

Yes.

[Eric Andre]

Michelin star, Nigerian chef.

[Ego Wodem]

Department culture.

[Eric Andre]

Culture. Yes, Department culture.

[Ego Wodem]

I've been meaning to go. Let's go.

[Eric Andre]

I've been and I'll go again.

[Ego Wodem]

Can we go today at 8pm?

[Eric Andre]

We can't go today because I will.

[Ego Wodem]

Go with you soon.

[Eric Andre]

I'll go soon.

[Ego Wodem]

What's your favorite food?

[Eric Andre]

All of them.

[Ego Wodem]

You don't want to offend anybody.

[Eric Andre]

No, I mean, I like a variety of food. I mean, it depends on what you're in the mood for. I don't have one favorite.

[Ego Wodem]

Is there a cuisine you don't like?

[Eric Andre]

Some British food is rough.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay? Yeah, yeah.

[Eric Andre]

But some British chefs are great.

[Ego Wodem]

Eric, do you know that I came to your birthday party in the year 2018? Do you know this?

[Eric Andre]

2001.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you know that I was at.

[Eric Andre]

Your birthday right after 9? 11? You gave him. No. When? Which one?

[Ego Wodem]

The one where you ran around naked.

[Eric Andre]

That's all of them. So which one? Whittle it down. The quinceanera. No, there was a. There was a bar mitzvah. The quinceanera. The Colt one. Quinceanera when I was in the pink dress.

[Ego Wodem]

I didn't get to see you in the dress because I had to run to do an improv.

[Eric Andre]

What year?

[Ego Wodem]

It was like 2018. 17.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah, I remember you there.

[Ego Wodem]

Yes.

[Eric Andre]

And the naked guys were around. I kept telling people they were my dad.

[Ego Wodem]

I don't remember this part. Yeah, I don't remember.

[Eric Andre]

There was like a native American guy with a very small penis and a black guy with a huge penis. And anytime they were cross frame, I hired them off Craigslist. And I just said, you can just. Just hang out like you're at a party, never mention you're naked. And then anytime they walked by and people were like, who's that? I bet that's my dad.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, wait, what was the ad on Craigslist?

[Eric Andre]

It was like, attention all nudists will pay 100 bucks if you come to this party and you're butt naked.

[Ego Wodem]

That's it. But didn't you use the party for your show? So are they SAG now? Are they?

[Eric Andre]

I didn't use it for my show.

[Ego Wodem]

You didn't? I was just celebrating the party. What? There was cameras?

[Eric Andre]

There might have been cameras, but I didn't invite camera people.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Oh, wow. I was going to say that.

[Eric Andre]

No, I didn't invite camera people.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Eric Andre]

I want my privacy.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, you do.

[Eric Andre]

Those people showed up.

[Ego Wodem]

How do you deal with people accosting you in public? I've seen it.

[Eric Andre]

It happens.

[Ego Wodem]

How do you feel about it?

[Eric Andre]

Honestly, it depends on the situation.

[Ego Wodem]

When?

[Eric Andre]

For the most part, 99 of people are very sweet. Okay, 1% of people are crazy.

[Ego Wodem]

For real. Only 1%?

[Eric Andre]

Maybe not 1%, maybe not 1%, but a good amount.

[Ego Wodem]

What's a crazy person?

[Eric Andre]

I was writing at a place. Coffee shop. I had my laptop open. I was in the East Village, and I saw this guy out of my corner of my eye. He's behaving strangely. And then he started vomiting. And I was like, pretty close to me. And I was like, well. And he's like, sorry, I've been trying to make myself vomit to get your attention this whole time that you've been writing.

[Ego Wodem]

This is a real story.

[Eric Andre]

This is a real story. And I was like, oh. And then he was like. And then he started, like, trying to make himself vomit again, like at me. And I was like, oh. And I grabbed my laptop and I ran and I called an Uber.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. That's extreme, Eric.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Yeah. Fair.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

It's okay to be repulsed by that.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah. Yeah, it was crazy.

[Ego Wodem]

So sorry that Happened.

[Eric Andre]

It's crazy. One time I did a live show. I did the Eric Andre show live. I crowd surfed in the audience. One guy put all four fingers up my butt crack.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

Another kid grabbed my dick and balls as hard as he could. Another kid started strangling me with my bow tie. And another kid sucked his finger, gave me a wet willy. And the fifth kid grabbed the hot dog off the ground because I threw hot dogs in the ground and shoved in the back of my thro. Started, like, drawing and cornering me.

[Ego Wodem]

I should have mentioned this is a.

[Eric Andre]

Faith based podcast and that is what how I found God.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. What in the. And did you. Wait, you enjoyed that as well?

[Eric Andre]

No, I was in hell. I thought I was going to die. And I got to the ground and I started doing like, you know, street karate to get my way out of it.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

This kid kept willing, wet willing me, and I went boom. And I punched him in the stomach as hard as I could out of survival. And he went, yeah. And that was like the first, like 30 seconds of the show.

[Ego Wodem]

Your fans are insane.

[Eric Andre]

Say insane. That was Vancouver.

[Ego Wodem]

That. Okay. Oh, wait. I didn't even introduce you.

[Eric Andre]

I'm Eric Andre. I'm a comedian.

[Ego Wodem]

My next Aries needs no introduction. My next guest. It's not the name of.

[Eric Andre]

Do you want to come to Nigeria with me?

[Ego Wodem]

I want to go to Nigeria with you.

[Eric Andre]

I should introduce you. Really? Come.

[Ego Wodem]

I have to read your intro.

[Eric Andre]

Okay, you can read the intro. People don't care.

[Ego Wodem]

No, they do care. Okay. Okay. My next guest is an actor and comedian who you know from the.

[Eric Andre]

Sorry.

[Ego Wodem]

And I do need.

[Eric Andre]

What do you think of my petite feet?

[Ego Wodem]

I don't like these boots if I'm being really honest.

[Eric Andre]

How dare you?

[Ego Wodem]

I'm so sorry.

[Eric Andre]

That's a slap in the face.

[Ego Wodem]

Are they warm?

[Eric Andre]

They're warm and they get me through the snow.

[Ego Wodem]

I have to introduce you.

[Eric Andre]

Okay, introduce me.

[Ego Wodem]

My next guest is an actor and comedian who you know from the Eric Andre show and his podcast Bombing with Eric Andre. It's. Believe it or not, Eric Andre. Did you intentionally put your name in everything you do?

[Eric Andre]

I actually didn't want the name of the show to be the Eric Andre show. Originally, it was called Duh air ache on Dre Shoe.

[Ego Wodem]

Duh Air.

[Eric Andre]

And it was like a picture of a guy going, duh an on switch. Duh air, nose, air ache. Somebody with like a headache on switch. Dr. Dre and a shoe.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

It was like, duh. Eric Andre shoe and producer said what in the.

[Ego Wodem]

Hooked on Phonics.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Adult Swim was like, yeah, we get the joke. But no one else will because they don't know who the you are. Why don't you just call the Andre show? Keep it simple.

[Ego Wodem]

It's good, though. It's.

[Eric Andre]

So. I wanted to make it Eric Andre tonight. And they were like, just. It's the Eric Andre show. Don't. You're, like, overthinking it.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, all right, all right. Do you usually just take notes like that and just go, no, they never.

[Eric Andre]

Gave me any notes. That was, like, probably one of the only notes they ever gave me.

[Ego Wodem]

How many seasons did you get to.

[Eric Andre]

Six years. Six seasons. I'm sorry. Ten years. Six seasons.

[Ego Wodem]

That's nice.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

That had to feel very good. Were you expecting notes at some point, though? Because I feel like. I mean, you really know.

[Eric Andre]

They got, like, even more and more removed. They would, like, watch cuts and kind of give feedback. We like this. And towards, like the last two seasons, they wouldn't even say anything. I was like, are you guys even watching? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Did you know you wanted to be a actor? Comedian, Household name.

[Eric Andre]

Now your mouth is so far from the mic. Do you do that on purpose for the camera?

[Ego Wodem]

No. See, here's the thing.

[Eric Andre]

Cause maybe I can do that.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm gonna tell you, I was thinking, he looks like he wants to choke on the mic.

[Eric Andre]

I wanna, like, gag.

[Ego Wodem]

You want that hot dog in your mouth?

[Eric Andre]

I wanna blow your mouth.

[Ego Wodem]

Someone.

[Eric Andre]

I'm usually in that chair, so I'm all squatted up.

[Ego Wodem]

So you're.

[Eric Andre]

I have an I heart podcast.

[Ego Wodem]

You do?

[Eric Andre]

You know that?

[Ego Wodem]

To advertise your podcast now.

[Eric Andre]

Oh, we can do it organically when the time is right, but I'm usually in that chair.

[Ego Wodem]

And what's the name of your podcast with Eric Andre? Because I said it in the intro. Did you? You see, I plugged you. You weren't.

[Eric Andre]

I don't think you did.

[Ego Wodem]

Have you been listening to me at all?

[Eric Andre]

No.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Taylor Stigatz]

Stagatz here. I have a podcast empire. It continues to grow, and I have brought it here to Ivar. I'm also doing a live radio show to 5pm Eastern because my wife wanted to kick me out of the house. It's called Stugatsy Company Live, which is available in podcast form right when the show finishes, every single day. Some of the biggest names in sports, a lot of phone calls.

[Eric Andre]

I love you guys show. It's one of my favorites.

[Taylor Stigatz]

A lot of interaction. Guys not taking themselves too seriously. Those are just some of the things that you could expect from Stugouts Co. And Stugots Co. Live. So listen to Stugats Co. Live and our original podcast. Please subscribe, rate and review Stugots Co. And God bless football. Taylor's livelihood depends on it. Do it today and you can check all of those out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Narrator (Black History Podcasts)]

1969, Malcolm and Martin are gone.

[Eric Andre]

America is in crisis. And at Morehouse College, the students make their move.

[Hans Charles]

These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson, locked up the members of the board of trustees, including Martin Luther King Sr. It's the true story of protest and rebellion in black American history that you'll never forget.

[Eric Andre]

I'm Hans Charles, our menelik Lumumba.

[Hans Charles]

Listen to the a Building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Eric Andre]

Can I tell them what we talked about in the makeup trailer?

[Ego Wodem]

It depends. And I'll maybe put it out. Remember, this is my podcast and I have completely funny. It depends.

[Eric Andre]

It's funny, though. Okay.

[Ego Wodem]

I don't trust you.

[Eric Andre]

You can cut it out. No, but it is a good. It is a good story that you should tell.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, but here's the thing.

[Eric Andre]

You know what it is?

[Ego Wodem]

I do know what you're about to tell, and I don't want to tell it and I don't want to spend time on it because we have limited time. And this is about you.

[Eric Andre]

I got all the time in the world.

[Ego Wodem]

No, no, you don't. Because when I asked you to go.

[Eric Andre]

To the Department of Culture, it was kind of wide open.

[Ego Wodem]

You don't have all the time in the world. I asked you to go to Department of Culture tonight and you said no. So I know.

[Eric Andre]

Well, I have a friend in town, so I wanted fair. I had other dinner places.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, no problem.

[Eric Andre]

And I have to wake up early. I gotta do reshoots tomorrow for Little Brother, the movie. Yeah, I gotta wake up at like.

[Ego Wodem]

5Am Were you part of casting me in that movie? Did you have a say?

[Eric Andre]

I didn't have a say in any of the casting or anything in the producing, but I did. When you came up, I think you were already cast. And I was like, oh, she's awesome.

[Ego Wodem]

Thank you.

[Eric Andre]

So I like, second seconded that emotion. Yeah, but, Yeah, no, I, I. Sherry said something like that and I was.

[Ego Wodem]

Like, I love Sherry.

[Eric Andre]

Sherry's the best.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

But I was like, no, I didn't. The producers are producing them.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Eric Andre]

So I'm just.

[Ego Wodem]

You just do you care about being, like, super creatively, like, hands?

[Eric Andre]

I usually do.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Eric Andre]

But I trust the producer so much because we worked together for so long that I know that he's going to, like, do his due diligence better than anybody.

[Ego Wodem]

And, yeah.

[Eric Andre]

Pick somebody that is very, very talented. He doesn't settle for less.

[Ego Wodem]

Thank you.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you remember I did the table read for.

[Eric Andre]

Of course. That's where we. Really bad trip.

[Ego Wodem]

Bad trip.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

That is where we met.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

That was really fun.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

And then also to see the movie come out and be as successful as it was was so funny. I haven't told you that, actually. That's funny.

[Eric Andre]

You watched it?

[Ego Wodem]

I did watch it.

[Eric Andre]

I'm excited. It was me, you, and Lamorne Morris.

[Ego Wodem]

Yes. At the table. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Eric Andre]

I had to beg my producing brothers to do a table read. I was like, let's read through this out loud.

[Ego Wodem]

Did it change?

[Eric Andre]

They were like, huh? I was like, why wouldn't we? We didn't do it for Little Brother. I'm like, you don't want to hear it once before we start filming it.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. Did you ask crazy to me for Little Brother?

[Eric Andre]

Yeah. I go, we're not doing a table read. Yeah. Why don't you want to listen to the fucking pages before you start shooting?

[Ego Wodem]

That's confidence.

[Eric Andre]

They were like, n. What? All right. It's confident you're gonna learn that stuff isn't working the hard way.

[Ego Wodem]

But, you know, it worked out, like, bad.

[Eric Andre]

They had to do a bunch of reshoots.

[Ego Wodem]

For what? For Little Brother.

[Eric Andre]

Well, both bad trip. I mean, everybody has to do reshoots. I think reshoots are part of the.

[Ego Wodem]

Process, and you should mentally prepare for re shoots. What's your least favorite part?

[Eric Andre]

My hair. I never cut my hair. I'm an idiot. Oh, I'm wearing a wig for these reshoots.

[Ego Wodem]

So who's. You're getting a braid down and then, like, oh, wow. And then it's getting glued. Is it getting glued on your head.

[Eric Andre]

Like a lace front?

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

No. What is Greg doing? We're not gluing. I was gluing for Street Fighter.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Eric Andre]

But I, I. No, we're just pinning it down.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Eric Andre]

Because he wants. He's using my hairline, so it's not like, Like Street Fighter. I had, like, a full perm.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, look like you had a perm. A relaxer.

[Eric Andre]

No, I'm sorry. I had a wig for Street Fighter.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, great.

[Eric Andre]

But it looked like how my hair would look like if I permed it.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Eric Andre]

Gorgeous. I looked like Michelle Obama.

[Ego Wodem]

Gorgeous.

[Eric Andre]

You wouldn't be able to tell us apart. You're gonna be watching Street Fighter and you're gonna go, michelle Obama's in this movie.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm gonna watch. I'm gonna watch.

[Eric Andre]

You're gonna be confused.

[Ego Wodem]

I need to watch it. I need to watch it. So you didn't know you always wanted to do this. You feel like the kind of person.

[Eric Andre]

Who would be like, what do you mean? Comedy?

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. An entertainer.

[Eric Andre]

Always entertainer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But not comedy. I was intimidated by comedy. I was always a class clown, but I never thought professionally I would always look at stand ups. I was like, I would never be able to surmount my anxiety for that. That seems like just like ultimate stage fright. So I. I went to music school. I went to jazz school.

[Ego Wodem]

Berkeley.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Yes.

[Eric Andre]

Berkeley. College Waste youe Money. Music.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. Is that what we feel about our alma mater?

[Eric Andre]

Well, learning jazz is like getting a degree in Sanskrit. It's like a dead language. You know what I mean? Like, what, what am I? There's no jazz millionaires. You know, there's no jazz thousandaire. It's like a life of poverty and like teaching jaded teenagers about Duke Ellington. Like, that was my future. And playing weddings and cocktail gigs. So I was like, I got a pivot, like, halfway through college. After I was like sending Sally Mae all my money. Oh, and Sally, Sally all the time.

[Ego Wodem]

You're not getting that money. So stop. Call somebody. Call somebody else, girl. Well, you loved jazz then at some point, to have majored in jazz.

[Eric Andre]

Still love jazz.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, so you still love it, but when you were, when you decided to major in it, were your parents like. Yes. No. If you.

[Eric Andre]

My mom was always. My parents are opposites. Or my mom always had a Montessori approach. She was a public school teacher. She's from Harlem. She was like. She was like, follow your heart and, you know, whatever you think, it's your life. Life.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

My dad was. Escaped a dictatorship in Haiti, came here with 20 bucks in his pocket, speaking no English, went to med school, graduated the top of his class of med school and was like, if you don't. I like, sacrificed everything for you and your sister to have a good life. And you need to go to law school or med school.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

Those are the only two options. Because I was. I was. I had good grades. I was a straight A student.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

So he was like, like, you don't go to jazz school. You're going to law school or med school, period. And I was like, no, dude, I'M going to jazz school, Daddy O. And he was like. And then at the end of jazz school, I was like, nah, Dad, I figured it out. I'm not going to jazz you. I'm getting into stand up comedy.

[Ego Wodem]

And he was like, man, gonna kill this, man.

[Eric Andre]

And then he go. And then he goes, how about this? I pay a tutorial to tutor you for the lsat. And you just take the LSAT and see how you score, maybe get into a great law school, right? I was like, all right. So I studied for a year with this LSAT tutor. So I'm like 21 years old. I just moved to New York, and I'm like, just eating top ramen and doing, like, chicken open mics. And I was studying for a year with this tutor he found for me. And I read. I read a reference book. I read the Dictionary of Cultural Literacy. I read a dictionary like a Malcolm X in prison in the 60s. And, like, you know, I studied, like, for a year. Then I finally I go to. I went to, like, deep, like, on the 2, 3 train. I want to say East Flatbush, whatever that college is out there. Brooklyn College or whatever. Okay. Sat in this auditorium class. I'm about to take the lsat. I looked down at the Scantron and the. What do they call them? The proctor.

[Ego Wodem]

Yes.

[Eric Andre]

The proctor said, okay, this is the last time. If anybody has any questions or needs to use the restroom, there's the last time. We're gonna start the clock in, like, one minute. Any. Anybody you know, if you got to do anything or you need any information, ask it now. And I just looked down at the Scantron and I broke my pencil in half, and I just, like, walked out and I was like, I'm gonna be a comedian. And I told my dad I did that. I was like, like, he's like, how'd you do? I go, I broke the pencil and I didn't do a single thing. And he goes, well, it sounds like your mind is made up, so, you know, I guess I have to support you. And did he support you very reluctantly and eventually. And then eventually, yeah, yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Did he come to any open mics?

[Eric Andre]

He came to some regular shows that felt like an open mic.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. And do you remember anything he said to you after any of those shows, after you.

[Eric Andre]

Well, my dad was like. He was deaf in one ear and bars. He was hard of hearing, and he. English was his fourth language. And he's culturally very Haitian. He grew up in Haiti. So, like, my comedy, he, like, understood maybe like, 15 of what the I was talking about.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Eric Andre]

Because I'm, like, making jokes about, like, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. He's like, huh?

[Ego Wodem]

I heard turtle in there.

[Eric Andre]

Turtle. I would eat a turtle.

[Ego Wodem]

Sure. Turtle soup. Not bad.

[Eric Andre]

So your mom watches your comedy.

[Ego Wodem]

She watched SNL every.

[Eric Andre]

She understand what's going on?

[Ego Wodem]

Yes. I would say yes.

[Eric Andre]

Immigrant parents.

[Ego Wodem]

It's just a different.

[Eric Andre]

Sometimes they're like, what the Is going on?

[Ego Wodem]

I think for sure she's watched the show and been like, no idea what's going on. I hear those people laughing.

[Eric Andre]

People are laughing. My daughter's in a costume. Something's happening.

[Ego Wodem]

Exactly.

[Eric Andre]

That's kind of like all I hope for out of my dad.

[Ego Wodem]

One of her favorite sketches I'm not even in, so she would be too honest.

[Eric Andre]

I love that you're like, mom, that's Pete Davidson. Yeah. But that sketch is great. I'm not in it.

[Ego Wodem]

Genuinely did not give a shit if I was in them or not. I don't think she's ever remarked about these immigrant parents.

[Eric Andre]

No filter.

[Ego Wodem]

None.

[Eric Andre]

They're just like, you're fat, and you're like, cool. Thank you. Lose weight. You should lose weight. Okay, thanks. Thank you.

[Ego Wodem]

It's really wild. She's like the Adam Sandler sketch where he's talking about going on vacation and how going on vacation is not going to make you happy and you'll still be sad on vacation. She loves that sketch. And I'm like. Has never mentioned Lisa from Eggy or anything else.

[Eric Andre]

Anything you've done done.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. So. But I do think there was a part of him, though, that was like, okay, Eric looks happy doing the thing he's doing. Again, they're laughing. So.

[Eric Andre]

No, he came around. He came around towards the end. And, like, I think what I brought him. I was in the Lion King, the remake, the. The reboot. And I was the voice of one of the Hyes, his hyenas.

[Ego Wodem]

The one Beyonce was in.

[Eric Andre]

The one Beyonce was in. And I brought him to the premiere, and I never brought my family to any premiere until then. I always only have, like, a plus one, and I bring a date. So it was, like, as red carpet as you could imagine. Because, like, it was a literal red carpet, and he wore a tux, and I wore a nice suit. And then when we got there, it was me on stage with Beyonce, and I don't remember who else was there, like, James Earl Jones. And he was like. Like, I think then it clicked. He's like, oh, my son is doing something. Yeah, like, he's on Beyonce I recognize whatever. Chiwatelu. J4.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. Nigerian.

[Eric Andre]

However you say. How you say it.

[Ego Wodem]

Yes.

[Eric Andre]

He did not have a sense of humor. I said something to him when we were doing press.

[Ego Wodem]

You pissed off.

[Eric Andre]

I was like, where? Yeah, I go. I go where you say. London. And I was like. I did the classic American. I was like, peep, peep, chatty. O, Gambia, Guinness. And he was like, like, yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

I thought it was gonna be worse than that. That's not bad. That's not bad. That's not bad. I feel.

[Eric Andre]

He was like.

[Ego Wodem]

It's like a knee jerk reaction. And it's not appropriate. It's not appropriate at all.

[Eric Andre]

It wasn't bitfeerio, but it was like the equivalent equally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or maybe like an Ollie G impression or something. I was like, london, I'm far out, dude. Massive. And he was like.

[Ego Wodem]

This guy. Thank God Our VO sessions were all done separately in different cities. Never met this guy.

[Eric Andre]

Who are you in the movie? Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you often regret how you engage with people genuinely?

[Eric Andre]

Every day.

[Ego Wodem]

Like, do you?

[Eric Andre]

Every day.

[Ego Wodem]

I love you.

[Eric Andre]

Clearly.

[Ego Wodem]

No, I'm not asking for that.

[Eric Andre]

Clearly you're.

[Ego Wodem]

You lean in. I wonder if you ever are like. You leave an interaction and are like, fuck, I.

[Eric Andre]

Every day.

[Ego Wodem]

Genuinely. Eric.

[Eric Andre]

Yes. Are you kidding me?

[Ego Wodem]

Like, you want do overs?

[Eric Andre]

God, I want a time machine. Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah. Humanity's fucking cringe. One embarrassment after the next.

[Ego Wodem]

You seem to be so. So yourself, though. That. That's why.

[Eric Andre]

Ass.

[Ego Wodem]

Because you seem so.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah, I mean, it comes in waves. I don't know.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, fair enough. So you're human. You're human.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah. What the. You know, I'm a stoic. I'm like a goddamn. I'm Stonewall Jackson.

[Ego Wodem]

But it is so you. You know what I mean? I think your personality is remarkably unique. And I mean that as a compliment. Thank you genuinely.

[Eric Andre]

It sounds like an insult.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. Your personality is.

[Eric Andre]

It's challenging.

[Ego Wodem]

It's you.

[Eric Andre]

Not for everybody.

[Ego Wodem]

You know, we need you in small doses. No.

[Eric Andre]

My dad watched Bad Trip towards the end of his life, and I go, dad, you know tens of millions of people, it's number one in the U.S. it's number one in the world. You know, millions of people watch. We're number one. We were number one in all these, like, African nations. And it was very hard for him to watch me get butt by a gorilla. And my mom's loving it. I was like, you know it's number one. And he goes. He was like, trying to find. Dig deep For a compliment. And he just went, that's a scene. When you watch it, you'll never forget it.

[Ego Wodem]

It's a compliment.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah. My sister goes, that's the best you're gonna get.

[Ego Wodem]

I think so. Somehow I feel. It's sweet, him being like, I'm gonna try. I watched my son get.

[Eric Andre]

But I saw. I was like, people are loving it. People are loving it. Look at that. I had this map that showed where it was number one throughout the world. I was like, number one in England, number one, Australia. And he's like. It was like, clearly, like, burned into his brain, you know?

[Ego Wodem]

He's like, I saw my son be defiled a while ago.

[Eric Andre]

When you see that, you never forget. You never forget.

[Ego Wodem]

This is like a scene out of a, like, teaching moment for father and son.

[Eric Andre]

Give them the truth. My impression of my dad is Will Smith in Concussion or whatever that movie was where he tried to be an African doctor. All right, Doug. Then he finally did a good movie, but he slapped Chris Rock at the goddamn.

[Ego Wodem]

Did that happen or was that AI? I think it was AI.

[Eric Andre]

All he had to do was not slap Chris Rock.

[Ego Wodem]

Sometimes that's a tall boy.

[Eric Andre]

Would have been the best day of his life. Sometimes not just, okay, just go there and don't hit anybody. Got it. Just stare at your shoes. You can do what you can totally check out. Chris Rock did, like, a throwaway GI Jane joke. And he was like. And he laughed at first, looked at Jada, and he went, I love. The best part of that clip is Lupita Nyong' o in the back, like, looking for her driver to get out. She's like, is there emergency exit or. The whole time, she's like. She's like, ernesto, pull up front.

[Ego Wodem]

And that's why you gotta sit in the aisle.

[Eric Andre]

She's looking around like, I just, like, zeroed in on Lupita. She's like, checking her phone. Okay, can you share your location with me?

[Ego Wodem]

I'm gonna step outside.

[Eric Andre]

I am looking at her puppies. Can I.

[Ego Wodem]

I do think the people who are, like, bystanders in those moments, I feel for them. Anytime someone's recording a. A stranger acting up in public, I'm like, I saw one. A woman on the train going crazy. And the woman the next door. So the woman's being recorded and all. She was going crazy. She was popping off. And honestly, she was in the right. Anyway, Girl on the train is like, put her coat on her head. Cause it's like, this is gonna go viral. And I don't wanna be in this.

[Eric Andre]

Video, it's like those French people that eat that little bird with the napkin on their head.

[Ego Wodem]

No, I don't know.

[Eric Andre]

Do you know about that?

[Ego Wodem]

No. I have to watch this.

[Eric Andre]

In France, in the culinary world. Okay, there's this bird. Do you guys know about the bird with the napkin on your head? You know about it, right? There's a fucking little bird that's so shameful to eat in France. You gotta put one in muffins.

[Ego Wodem]

Is it a pigeon?

[Eric Andre]

It's something.

[Ego Wodem]

It's okay.

[Eric Andre]

I'm gonna show you.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you like pigeon?

[Eric Andre]

I've had pigeon. I didn't run back to the pigeon store. Excuse me. Okay, friends, you're at a b bowl eating.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you want some water, bird?

[Eric Andre]

No, I'm fine.

[Ego Wodem]

You're fine? Your face is turning blue.

[Eric Andre]

Me, I never felt better. Okay. Ortolan bunting. There's a term for it. Click on any of these pictures.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Oh. Oh.

[Eric Andre]

It's illegal.

[Ego Wodem]

It's an illegal.

[Eric Andre]

It's a weird vibe.

[Ego Wodem]

It's like, so they just don't want to be photographed doing it. Except for they're all photographed. We'll have to insert a graphic.

[Eric Andre]

Illegal.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, it's because of this. Says French people eating an illegal French delicacy called Ortola.

[Eric Andre]

Why is it illegal?

[Ego Wodem]

You want me to find that out right now on the podcast?

[Eric Andre]

No.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. The small songbird is force fed grains to fatten it up, then drowned in brandy. Once prepared, the bird is then eaten whole in one bite. Except for the beak. Diners cover themselves with napkins to hide their sin from God. I. I don't. Question. It begs a lot of questions.

[Eric Andre]

I got it. You know what? I'm gonna text my friend who's French and eats a lot.

[Ego Wodem]

I like your tattoos. Hand tattoos.

[Eric Andre]

Thank you very much.

[Ego Wodem]

Those were on purpose. It says oops, but it was on purpose. Obviously.

[Eric Andre]

I don't remember getting it.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, therein is all the information we need. Okay.

[Eric Andre]

I've been blacked out since Black History month.

[Ego Wodem]

Well, so 360 days. We're just days away from Black History Month.

[Eric Andre]

Exactly.

[Ego Wodem]

So all year.

[Eric Andre]

More like blackout history month. Am I right?

[Ego Wodem]

Is that what you're gonna after dry January? That's what you planning that's gonna get?

[Eric Andre]

It's blackout History month. You know what? I' raging it. Where are you call Eli Whitney. The inventor of the cotton gin.

[Ego Wodem]

Is he alive?

[Eric Andre]

No, he's long dead. Hey, take a moment. Grover. Yeah. A moment of silence for the King of pop.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. For Eli Whitney, Grover Cleveland.

[Eric Andre]

Okay.

[Ego Wodem]

Eric, do you think you and your dad were close?

[Eric Andre]

Because basically we got closer in adult. In adult life. But, you know, it was. My sister had the beginning of their marriage and I had the end of their marriage. So, like, in the early memories, like, my. My parents were one unit, but then he started, like, pulling away from my mom, and I got the brunt of that. And they got divorced when I was like, 11 or 12.

[Ego Wodem]

Oh, that's tough.

[Eric Andre]

That was tough. Yeah, that was tough.

[Ego Wodem]

Did you grow up here in New York?

[Eric Andre]

No, Florida.

[Ego Wodem]

Oh, wow.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

What part of Florida?

[Eric Andre]

So I was born in Miami, but then they moved into the suburbs. Boca Raton.

[Ego Wodem]

Boca Raton. Mouth.

[Eric Andre]

Rat's mouth. Yeah. Where Seinfeld's fictional parents live.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Yeah, I know. Boca Raton to be wealthy.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah. We were like, in the suburbs. We weren't, like, taking private jets.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. I mean, that's.

[Eric Andre]

We were taking behavior.

[Ego Wodem]

No, private jets. That's billionaire behavior.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah, right. Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Have you been on a private plane? You Surely.

[Eric Andre]

Two times in my life. One time Adult Swim paid for it.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, yeah.

[Eric Andre]

And another time it was something where I had a gig at Caroline's and a like 4:35am call time in Toronto.

[Ego Wodem]

O.

[Eric Andre]

Okay. So I had. There was no flight from New York to Toronto. And the line producer looked at me, he goes, I cannot. Yeah, it was the. It was a producer. He was like, I can't move this. You have to shoot. Shoot. I was like, I'm gonna be on no sleep and there's no flight. He goes, I will go 50, 50 on a private jet for you. Oh, and I got the smallest, cheapest private jet from New York to Toronto.

[Ego Wodem]

So I don't know about getting a cheap private jet. That stresses me.

[Eric Andre]

It was the worst turbulence I've ever experienced. It was just me and a pilot. It was a jet like this big. It was like the size of this table.

[Ego Wodem]

Were you. You were terrified.

[Eric Andre]

Terrified. Any gust of wind, the whole plane was like, like, it was like nerve wracking. And I'm on no sleep. So I did like two sets of Caroline's. This is like, got to be 10 years ago.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

And I got on the jet and yeah, it was. It was a quick fly. It was a 45 minute flight or something.

[Ego Wodem]

That is stressful.

[Eric Andre]

But it was very stressful. And then I landed and then I had to go right to set.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, that's not what you bargain for. It was a private jet. You wouldn't do that again now.

[Eric Andre]

No, it was such a specific, like, issue having that show it was like a show that I already sold tickets for that I couldn't cancel. And at a call time, he couldn't move.

[Ego Wodem]

It was just like, I'm glad you're okay. I just feel protective in this moment. Like, don't do that. No more cheese.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah. I mean, you know, it was a very.

[Ego Wodem]

Yes.

[Eric Andre]

Particular situation. Situation.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, I get that.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

All right. Yeah, I've done it. I've done it twice. But. But also, my flight back to New York the other day had so much turbulence that I heard a flight attendant scream.

[Eric Andre]

Oh, I not. I'm not good when there's no turbulence.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

I'm like, white knuckling.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. Okay.

[Eric Andre]

You might get scared of. I got worse with itch.

[Ego Wodem]

What? Like, is there a moment that changed for you?

[Eric Andre]

I've just been on so many flights with so much bad turbulence. I don't know. Or it's just where my anxiety just decided to hang out.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

When I was little, I was naive. I was like, wee. Adults are in charge. Adults. They're. They're saying. And you realize when the. And then when you grow up, you're like, adults are lunatics. And they're like. They're dangerous. And so I'm like, I don't trust the people in charge.

[Ego Wodem]

It is crazy, though, to think about how you get on a flight and you're like, I haven't even laid eyes on the pilot. My assumption is that the pilot has come to work sober and could be a drunk.

[Eric Andre]

Truly lunatic.

[Ego Wodem]

I don't know. And it's really wild. It's so wild that we're just going.

[Eric Andre]

We trust faith in these people's houses.

[Ego Wodem]

That's true. And to take us through the sky. It was really. It was pretty wild. I don't normally get scared. I guess my mind. When there's.

[Eric Andre]

How bad was the term. What was going on?

[Ego Wodem]

It was because. Because it was like this. Yeah. And it was like the. It was on. So my flight on Sunday got canceled. So Monday flight. And it was, you know, post this blizzard. And I guess the winds, but it was like the drops and the person.

[Eric Andre]

Next to me, I'm like biting into a Xanax and I'm like, it's giving.

[Ego Wodem]

Tower of Terror and the like. And the person next to people show.

[Eric Andre]

You a tik tok. Oh, just think that you're in jello and it's only moving two feet. I'm like, shut the fuck up. We're in a fucking metal can in the sky and it's going, woo, woo, woo. Woo. Woo. I don't need to hear your jello metaphor. I don't get it. We don't give a damn and I'm shitting my pants.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

Give me three gin and tonics and a fucking Xanax. I need to self anesthetize.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

I need to be completely numbed.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

Because I'm. I feel like I'm going to die.

[Ego Wodem]

It does feel that way. I have to say. I have to say. And the guy next to me, his wine was like going all over the place, like. So he had to take a plate to cover his wine because it was like, well, this would be.

[Eric Andre]

He's like, guy with the birds in France.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. Illegally eating the bird to cover his. He was covering his sin, the red wine. But I. I was like, well, I guess if we die. That's crazy. I have these. I just go like, hey, it was.

[Eric Andre]

Great being on your show.

[Ego Wodem]

I know. It's like, damn, that was crazy. Little Brother's coming out this year.

[Eric Andre]

They thought we were seeing, but we tried to grow and we couldn't.

[Ego Wodem]

And we died in the sky. Cause turns out seeds need soil and water. And what am I doing in the sky? I have no business being up here. How cocky of me.

[Eric Andre]

What was the thing you were saying on set? They thought we were seeds, but we were destined to grow.

[Ego Wodem]

I don't know what I was. I don't remember. That whole shoot was a blur because it was like summer camp. Little brother. We have to tell everyone we're talking about little brother.

[Eric Andre]

I loved it when we were all saying positive, positive stuff to each other and.

[Ego Wodem]

I know. And then you went to say a positive thing to me and I was. I was like, are you being serious or are you joking?

[Eric Andre]

What about? I had to do my big scene where I'm crying and you're like laughing the whole time.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm like, because it was funny.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah, but don't let me see you. You were like. I was like, come on. I'm trying to dredge up emotions.

[Ego Wodem]

But then I would do straight face. And you were still like.

[Eric Andre]

That made it worse somehow. And already you broke the fucking.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

Broke the egg.

[Ego Wodem]

You did a great job.

[Eric Andre]

Thank you.

[Ego Wodem]

You did a really great job.

[Eric Andre]

Thank you.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you ever run out of steam on set?

[Eric Andre]

Because it feels like you every day.

[Ego Wodem]

What do you do to stay energized? I'm Celsius.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah. Caffeine. Caffeine.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

I'm like, on air conditioner. I used to, like, take Excedrin, like, recreationally. I would Drink coffee, Thai iced tea and eat Excedrin just to be like. But you burn out. You like collapse.

[Ego Wodem]

Of course, my love.

[Eric Andre]

Let me tell you, I'll do like a soda. I'll do like a soda pop. That's like I said. But it's like you're robbing Peter to pay Paul because you. You crash.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. Crash so hard. And those hours are wild.

[Eric Andre]

Because I feel a lot of water. That's my new thing. Like if you want like sustained longevity, like, like long amounts of energy, I just drink. I have like electrolyte powder and vitamin C, like an emergency. And I'll drink like a ton of water. That's like, that's the way that you can like naturally get. Maintain energy without like spikes and crashes.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Eric Andre]

Because the caffeine like only. Only works so much.

[Ego Wodem]

Little known fact about you is that you are kind. You are into wellness because on set this summer, you spoke to me extensively about sleep and sleep.

[Eric Andre]

Oh yeah. Cause I was struggling.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. But then you're like, you had a sleep specialist and you're like, you're not supposed to do anything in bed besides sleep and have sex and you should not hang out there. There. You said something about what to do with your dreams. You. You had this whole list of things. Yeah, I think I might have written it down. Yes. Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

And I'm like, you're big in a.

[Eric Andre]

Sleep hygiene. Because my sleep was so bad. I had bad insomnia.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. You know your stuff.

[Eric Andre]

Quarantine. Yeah. There was no. I needed. Especially I needed. I was like in bad shape.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. All right. How's your sleep now?

[Eric Andre]

Fantastic.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, well, guess what? But it's time for a segment called that's Nice, but what About Me?

[Eric Andre]

Is that real?

[Ego Wodem]

It's a real segment.

[Eric Andre]

And are we supposed to talk about your dad?

[Ego Wodem]

There's nothing to say. You gotta. So you're. This is a really cool.

[Eric Andre]

I'm really hungry.

[Ego Wodem]

Since you've never listened to my podcast.

[Eric Andre]

I love it. I'm a. You don't even know what it's. Long time listener, first time caller.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Eric Andre]

And I love your podcast.

[Ego Wodem]

What's your favorite thing about my podcast? Podcast.

[Eric Andre]

Just you. Really, you. I mean, I knew you were going to say that, period.

[Ego Wodem]

I knew it. Okay, let's.

[Eric Andre]

I give it. I give it up. I give my hand to thee. That was strange. Me to clap. The hell's going on?

[Ego Wodem]

Why did I do that?

[Eric Andre]

Get in a car accident.

[Ego Wodem]

Stop.

[Eric Andre]

What the hell's going on?

[Ego Wodem]

That. That's nice.

[Eric Andre]

You want ketamine? No.

[Ego Wodem]

What is it like?

[Eric Andre]

It's not my drug. I don't know. I've only done it a couple times. I couldn't tell. I'm not an expert.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Eric Andre]

The gays. I love it.

[Ego Wodem]

Are you allowed to say that?

[Eric Andre]

Eat it up. I think the gays would agree. I don't think it's a controversial.

[Ego Wodem]

Are you.

[Eric Andre]

A statement.

[Ego Wodem]

Are you.

[Eric Andre]

I'm saying it. Okay. Come at me, guns blazing, but they know it's night.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, but now this is about me. We've pivoted. Big eye roll from Eric. For the people just listening, I'd actually.

[Eric Andre]

I'm like Chiwatella Jaya for listening to me.

[Ego Wodem]

Pop, pop, Cheerio. I think it's Chiwetel. Yeah. I'm not positive. Oh, no, I'm not positive because I have to see the spelling. If you show me the spelling, I don't feel like. Not personally, but.

[Eric Andre]

He passed away.

[Ego Wodem]

Yes.

[Eric Andre]

I have bad news. He passed away.

[Ego Wodem]

No. Yeah. No, not recently.

[Eric Andre]

No.

[Ego Wodem]

This is.

[Eric Andre]

Don't know if we were alive.

[Ego Wodem]

I need to leave. I just found out that. Oh, sometimes I think of sketches. That would be a fun sketch. Do you think someone's already done that?

[Eric Andre]

Where?

[Ego Wodem]

Like.

[Eric Andre]

No.

[Ego Wodem]

Or like. Or like.

[Eric Andre]

It's your mom's favorite sketch. Adam Sandler finding out.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm sorry, I need to leave this meeting. This is just. Just died. Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

And then what about Daniel? Kalua.

[Ego Wodem]

Kaluuya.

[Eric Andre]

Kaluya.

[Ego Wodem]

What about him?

[Eric Andre]

He's Nigerian, I think.

[Ego Wodem]

No, he's Ugandan. So you just throw us all. Is Africa a country to you?

[Eric Andre]

Well, really, Nigeria, Uganda, they're close by.

[Ego Wodem]

No, no, actually they're in the same neighborhood. They're closer in the. Closer to each other than we are to them, but. There we go. Hey, it's about me now you pull out your phone.

[Eric Andre]

Well, let me. I gotta make a phone call. No, no, let me. Let me say where. By the way, all African nations, those. Those boundaries are outlined by England and France, so.

[Ego Wodem]

I know.

[Eric Andre]

Let me just put.

[Ego Wodem]

I know. Shout out to colonialism.

[Eric Andre]

Shout out to colonialism. Uganda. Not that close.

[Ego Wodem]

I know. I told you. I didn't.

[Eric Andre]

You got a couple big countries in.

[Ego Wodem]

Between this geography lesson. This is a bad show.

[Eric Andre]

You know what? Closer to Kenya, where Lupita Nyong' Go's from.

[Ego Wodem]

Is that true? Yeah. Okay.

[Eric Andre]

I was just in Kenya. I took my mom to on safari for her 80th birthday.

[Ego Wodem]

You sent me a text. This is what we're gonna do for this segment. That's a nice gift, by the way. That's very sweet of you.

[Eric Andre]

Thank you.

[Ego Wodem]

You said we should go on a trip. I do want to go on a trip. Would you be down and how do we plan it? Because I. Okay. I also saw.

[Eric Andre]

I'm trying to do a show where I fund it myself, and they just throw it on YouTube.

[Ego Wodem]

Oh, really?

[Eric Andre]

That's basically Anthony Bourdain. Me meets 100.

[Ego Wodem]

That is what you texted me?

[Eric Andre]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

I thought you were joking.

[Eric Andre]

No. So I'm just gonna be like, hey, you're a Haitian comedian. Let's go to Haiti. You're a Jamaican comedian. Let's go to Jamaica. You're a Puerto Rican comedian. Let's go to work. Nigerian. Let's go to Nigeria. Ali Wong. We're going to China and Vietnam. No, but I don't know. I just think that'd be fun.

[Ego Wodem]

It would be fun. I think so.

[Eric Andre]

So I pitched it all to all the networks, and they all said no. So I'm just gonna make it myself.

[Ego Wodem]

And then it'll be very.

[Eric Andre]

And go bankrupt.

[Ego Wodem]

No, I think it'll be very successful. You should own your stuff. That's what I've been.

[Eric Andre]

That would be smart.

[Ego Wodem]

That's what they say now, by the way. That's.

[Eric Andre]

That's what Lauren. Lauren Michaels.

[Ego Wodem]

Is that what he told you?

[Eric Andre]

No, but that's known. He owns us. He owns SNL. And is it 100 points?

[Ego Wodem]

Someone said to me, 100 points or something.

[Eric Andre]

I don't know.

[Ego Wodem]

Whatever that means.

[Eric Andre]

I don't know. I don't know what anything means.

[Ego Wodem]

Me either. Okay, well.

[Eric Andre]

Okay. What's this segment all about? Because you've been setting it up forever.

[Ego Wodem]

That was it. It. Well, I just wanted help. How do we actually make the trip happen? And you said you just go. You're gonna find it.

[Eric Andre]

I'll bring out two camera ops. We'll just. I'll just get live mics, Amazon, and then I'll bring my producer. Okay, we'll go. Go around. I'll get a fixer on the ground, too. That we can.

[Ego Wodem]

A fixer?

[Eric Andre]

Yeah, fixer.

[Ego Wodem]

Don't. Fixers don't. They kill people that would have fixed.

[Eric Andre]

Okay, you're confusing fixer for hitman.

[Ego Wodem]

Is Olivia Pope a fixer?

[Eric Andre]

Olivia Munn is a hitman hit woman. Excuse me?

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Eric Andre]

She killed a bunch of people.

[Ego Wodem]

Get your gender.

[Eric Andre]

No, I don't know.

[Ego Wodem]

Why?

[Eric Andre]

I don't know.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you want I miss gender?

[Eric Andre]

Olivia.

[Ego Wodem]

That's the actual problem here. It's not that you called her a killer. Is that a hit man instead of hit woman?

[Eric Andre]

No. Olivia who? Pope.

[Ego Wodem]

Olivia Pope. Scandal. You didn't watch, did you? Not your cup of tea.

[Eric Andre]

Is that Olivia Rodriguez?

[Ego Wodem]

That's Olivia Rodrigo is the singer. Olivia Pope.

[Eric Andre]

So who's Olivia Rodriguez?

[Ego Wodem]

I'm sure she exists.

[Eric Andre]

She's gotta exist.

[Ego Wodem]

Sounds like someone's Olivia.

[Eric Andre]

If you're out there, call us.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, because we've got some.

[Eric Andre]

So Olivia Rodriguez is not also a singer, but there is a singer called Olivia Rodrigo.

[Ego Wodem]

Olivia Rodrigo is a singer. Olivia Pope is. Is like fixer. PR. Fixer in scandal. And I'm sure there's an Olivia Munn. You're right. Olivia Wilde. There's.

[Eric Andre]

John Mulaney's married to Olivia Munn.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. So there are other Olivia's. But I'm not familiar with Olivia Rodriguez. But if she. I'm sure she exists, and I wish her well.

[Eric Andre]

Rodriguez. I don't know who she's married to. I don't know her. Olivia Rodriguez is married to a rod. How do you know that?

[Ego Wodem]

You heard it here first.

[Eric Andre]

Wow. Rodrigo.

[Ego Wodem]

Olivia Rodrigo. What about.

[Eric Andre]

She's married to. She's also married to a rod.

[Ego Wodem]

And the rod in that case is for Rodrigo. Yes. A different a rod.

[Eric Andre]

What are we even talking about?

[Ego Wodem]

And that's hard to say at this juncture.

[Eric Andre]

We're gonna take a road trip from Nigeria to Uganda.

[Ego Wodem]

You want to take a road trip? I don't like road trips.

[Eric Andre]

Okay.

[Ego Wodem]

Sorry. We have to take a plane. And I'm sorry for you. You'll have to get your two gin and tonics and your Xanax, and we'll take a plane.

[Eric Andre]

Oh, you're good in a situation.

[Ego Wodem]

Didn't I tell you? I was kind of like, damn, it's crazy if this is it. That's kind of what I thought, really, legitimately. That's my thought is like, what am I gonna do?

[Eric Andre]

Well, you're fucking.

[Ego Wodem]

What would I do? I guess I'll put on my vest, see what happens. No, I See. No, my rational brain is like, and then what? It's not gonna stop the plane from crashing.

[Eric Andre]

I don't know. But it's just.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm not judging people who do. I didn't judge the flight attendant. I mean, it was alarming to hear someone who lives on a plane scream because of derby.

[Eric Andre]

That's stressful.

[Ego Wodem]

I was like, girl, get it together. Pretend you're well. Pretend you're not scared. Yeah, for us. But I was like, I'm. I was like, damn, that'd be really crazy. And I was watching the Anatomy of a Fall. Interesting. Maybe.

[Eric Andre]

Anyway, you completely lost me.

[Ego Wodem]

There's something there, but I don't expect you to find it. I don't know what it is either. Okay, Podcast about any and everything. Okay. We have to help a listener before we go. Okay, we're gonna give a listener. No, no, my dear.

[Eric Andre]

That listener go.

[Ego Wodem]

Oh, my gosh. We have to get him out of here. Get food in his dummy. He's saying, I know. We're gonna get you food.

[Eric Andre]

Wait, I think I have to cancel my five o' clock thing.

[Ego Wodem]

Eric, Eric. Yes, you do. I think you're not gonna get it. Get. There, there.

[Eric Andre]

So you're gonna have a call at 5:30.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. It's a call. Okay, we can do this. This will be quick.

[Eric Andre]

I'll take it on the subway. It'll be.

[Ego Wodem]

You take the subway every day. Nice. Same ditto, kiddo. No disrespect by saying that we're gonna help a listener. Okay, you seem so upset.

[Eric Andre]

I'm fading.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Yeah, let's play.

[Eric Andre]

Well, do you have, like, chips?

[Ego Wodem]

No, we don't have any snacks for you.

[Eric Andre]

There's a vending machine. Eat before you just don't have.

[Ego Wodem]

This is the rule of my podcast. Eat before you come. And honestly, take the tap. I'm pissed they gave you water. Because I tell the guests, drink before you come. Eat before you come.

[Eric Andre]

No water. That's cruel. I don't want to hear the Pyongyang comedy.

[Ego Wodem]

I don't want to hear gulping on my podcast and swallowing. It's not a sprite.

[Eric Andre]

Can't play this podcast.

[Ego Wodem]

I like that. Can you say it again?

[Eric Andre]

That's good. Okay.

[Ego Wodem]

Can you play it for real? Hey, Ego, just want to say I love the show so much. My situation is I've been dating my boyfriend now for eight and a half years, and we live together and everything, and we've talked about next steps, but I just don't know. And I feel like I should be sure. And things aren't bad bad, but I just feel that things could be better. Let me know what you think I should do or if you have any advice. Thanks. Bye.

[Eric Andre]

Oh, well, how. How can they be? But she sounds probably bored. Probably plateaued.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

And they either got to go to couples therapy and figure out how to fix it's. It's a little bit vague, though. You can't tell what's wrong with it.

[Ego Wodem]

They're not bad, though. And.

[Eric Andre]

But it sounds like it should be.

[Ego Wodem]

Better or it sounds bored. It's giving board.

[Eric Andre]

Like it plateaued. Like she mined everything. Like it expired. Like the shelf life.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. And if that's the case, I think it's maybe worth investigating. How to make it. It's like, what is exciting again? Make it exciting again because, like, no matter who you're with, I feel like at some point it stands the risk of plateauing after some time, and so you have to invest your energy. Like, when we say things are not bad, does it mean your bar is super low? That's what I'm concerned. Is it like. Yeah, he's nice. Shrug.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah. There's nothing wrong. There's not a clear. It's just she's bored, you're bored.

[Ego Wodem]

Or are your needs not being met when you say they could be better? We want your needs to be met. They're not gonna be able to meet all your needs, but you need to know what needs you want. This is the man that gave you the advice about going to couples therapy? By the way, it looks like I.

[Eric Andre]

Have tiny feet with his moon boots.

[Ego Wodem]

It does look like you have a tiny size 12.

[Eric Andre]

Men's.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, brag.

[Eric Andre]

They look petite.

[Ego Wodem]

Well, this is not about you.

[Eric Andre]

Dump them. You want advice? Dump that boring loser. Nice yawn. Get some new dick. This guy's a drip. Probably wears earplugs to a comedy show.

[Ego Wodem]

If he's a. What if he was a fan of yours?

[Eric Andre]

Oh, you gotta make it work, girl.

[Ego Wodem]

I think you gotta.

[Eric Andre]

No, she's gotta go to therapy.

[Ego Wodem]

You gotta go to couples therapy. I think you gotta go to couples therapy because, yeah, at this point, it's shitter. Get off the pot.

[Eric Andre]

Relationship advice.

[Ego Wodem]

What's your longest.

[Eric Andre]

I've never even hugged a girl. Longest relationship? Two years.

[Ego Wodem]

And how long into that two years were you? Like this should probably be over a couple weeks. Stuck it out. Okay. Do you want to get married?

[Eric Andre]

Married, I don't care about, but, like, you know, I want. You got to move in with somebody. That's what I want to do.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, you want to move in. Have you lived with a partner before?

[Eric Andre]

I've dated someone where they're at my house, like, six and a half days out of seven days a week.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Eric Andre]

So. But like, not. Never the official move in. I'm pretty avoidant.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. And you know that about yourself. Are you in therapy?

[Eric Andre]

Yeah, I would do a ton of therapy, but, like, there's been a shift where I'm less avoidant.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Eric Andre]

And I'm more open to a long term, loving, committed relationship.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you think that has anything to do with age or feeling like you've experienced everything you Want.

[Eric Andre]

It's both of those things. It's both of those things.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, beautiful ladies, get in there. Shoot your shot with Eric.

[Eric Andre]

Andre, here's the thing about a long term relationship.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. And you said you had somewhere to be at 5:30.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah. Well if you're in a long term relationship you can't have sex with anyone else.

[Ego Wodem]

And that's what bothers you.

[Eric Andre]

You can.

[Ego Wodem]

You could be ethically non monogamous.

[Eric Andre]

Really bad at you. Yeah. You know that pitch doesn't go over so well.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

In 99 point have you ever dated a woman before?

[Ego Wodem]

Never.

[Eric Andre]

Tell me what it's like when you pitch them. Well, you could be ethically non monogamous. They give the look you're giving me right now.

[Ego Wodem]

Well, there's a dating app for it field. Have you bumping on it?

[Eric Andre]

Yeah. Have you seen.

[Ego Wodem]

I don't. I've never been on there. What is it? Is it. What is it Shrek?

[Eric Andre]

Shrek? You want to date Shrek?

[Ego Wodem]

I don't. I don't. Somebody might be interested. Shrek needs love too. Shrek needs love too.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

You don't think so? Shrek doesn't love her.

[Eric Andre]

Shrek.

[Ego Wodem]

You just don't want to love Shrek. What if Shrek was so kind present open to being ethically non monogamous was embraced all that you are. Was a good cook. Had hobbies also really funny. You wouldn't date Shrek. You wouldn't date Shrek.

[Eric Andre]

You talking Shrek?

[Ego Wodem]

I'm talking Shrek.

[Eric Andre]

Shrek.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm talking about this mind you. You are a person who was butt by by gorilla and you're like yeah.

[Eric Andre]

But we're in an ethically non monogamous relationship.

[Ego Wodem]

So what can Shrek get in there? Does Shrek stand a chance with all those qualifications? Are we being close minded?

[Eric Andre]

Shrek?

[Ego Wodem]

Shrek.

[Eric Andre]

You ain't fucking Shrek either. Either.

[Ego Wodem]

Listen, I'm not.

[Eric Andre]

But you ain't Shrek either.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm not.

[Eric Andre]

You have to feel an attraction towards the person.

[Ego Wodem]

Don't you think you can grow.

[Eric Andre]

If there's not a kickoff they don't have to be drop dead bombshell. But they gotta be cute if you were drunk. They gotta be cute if you were drunk. Drunk for the first like five years of relationship stammered alcoholic Jack Kerouac. God. Beer goggles on.

[Ego Wodem]

If you were drunk, you wouldn't let Shrek hit.

[Eric Andre]

Oh man. Oh no.

[Ego Wodem]

Think about it. You'll have to come back and tell us. I won't keep.

[Eric Andre]

Oh no.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm. I'm. I I'm. This is.

[Eric Andre]

Would you do it? Shrek? I'm talking Shrek dude.

[Ego Wodem]

I know what you're talking about. A little crop top. Oh, I thought that was my phone. Okay, I want a little crop top.

[Eric Andre]

Look up.

[Ego Wodem]

I need to be reminded what Shrek. I know Shrek's big and green. Okay, but like, let's see.

[Eric Andre]

I'm using Shrek as a metaphor. Shrek's not a real. I know. Human.

[Ego Wodem]

I know Shrek. Shrek can dress. First of all, there are redeeming qualities here. That's a friendly welcoming.

[Eric Andre]

Okay, use a different metaphor.

[Ego Wodem]

Which one?

[Eric Andre]

The baby in a racer head. Eric Stoltz in that movie mask.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, I'm just gonna. Okay, let's see. The baby in Eraserhead. I wouldn't want to date a baby. That's the problem.

[Eric Andre]

Well, I'm just trying to think of the most hideously ugly characters in the movie.

[Ego Wodem]

No one is as ugly as these characters. No one is ugly. Nobody is ugly.

[Eric Andre]

The guy at the end of RoboCop melting.

[Ego Wodem]

Eric is. I just think you should be open and maybe there are bunches.

[Eric Andre]

What do you want from me? What do you want from me?

[Ego Wodem]

What is this?

[Eric Andre]

What is this scream?

[Ego Wodem]

No. Okay, so I just think you should be open.

[Eric Andre]

Leave me and my family alone.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm trying to get you a family. I think you should. There might be a lot of Shreks on. On there, but there could be a Cinderella.

[Eric Andre]

I mean, it's not about like ethical non monogamy versus monogamy, but you think it's just like. It's more like. Like you date someone, you like them, then you love them, then you really love them. You fall in love with them after like 10 years. You can't anybody else.

[Ego Wodem]

And you want that option.

[Eric Andre]

Well, I mean, and. And for her too. She can't like. She can't even kiss somebody. Like. Like why?

[Ego Wodem]

This is you after cheating on your partner. Like, so I can't. I'm sorry. I'm not allowed. Allowed to kiss somebody. I guess I just don't get it.

[Eric Andre]

Really.

[Ego Wodem]

You can't kiss somebody, but you can find people who are down for you kissing other people? They can kiss other people.

[Eric Andre]

It's more of like the. The like knowing you have the freedom than the actual event.

[Ego Wodem]

I feel like.

[Eric Andre]

You know what I mean?

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. I feel like you're gonna. You need an ethically non monogamous girly, and that's fine. I understand what you're saying. I understand what you're saying.

[Eric Andre]

Her too. I mean, equal. Equal Playing field.

[Ego Wodem]

I know what you're talking about.

[Eric Andre]

It just seems, like, rigid.

[Ego Wodem]

I understand.

[Eric Andre]

Year after year.

[Ego Wodem]

And there are people who feel the same as you, and I feel hopeful for you. I feel 20, 26. Honey, it's your year.

[Eric Andre]

I'm. I'm not too stressed about it.

[Ego Wodem]

Good.

[Eric Andre]

You should. I think the universe provides.

[Ego Wodem]

That's beautiful.

[Eric Andre]

I think, like, when you let it go, let go and let God. Like the universe provides. I really don't. I don't. I don't feel like this. I felt like a little bit of a pressure about it when I turned 40, and through therapy and journaling and everything else, I was like, I'm creating a problem where there isn't one. I'm having a. I'm having a blast. That's a good thing. And, like, when it happens, it happens.

[Ego Wodem]

I think that's the right way.

[Eric Andre]

I don't think you want to force it or strangle it into being because I see a lot of people settle and then they're not happy and the relationship kind of.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

Disintegrates quick because they're like, you know, forcing themselves into a, you know, square peg, into a round hole kind of thing. So I don't want to. I'm not. I was in that panic when I turned 40, and then I. I got out of it, but kind of recently, therapy, and I was like, oh, when it happens, it happens.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. And it'll happen when it's supposed to. I really.

[Eric Andre]

It happens when it's supposed to.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

You know. Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. You don't need to worry too much about. And I don't think worrying produces the results anyone is actually.

[Eric Andre]

It doesn't. Yeah. It actually pushes the results away.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. Yeah. I agree with you there. I absolutely do. And no need to worry about timelines. I think the thing that is important, though, if I may, was saying it out loud. That that's like what you want. Saying it to loved ones, writing it down, whatever it is, setting that intention. That's like, I'm open to that. I'd like that. And then trust that it's going to come.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah, exactly. I think it comes and it comes and I'm not to. I don't know. I. I don't think. Yeah. Stop thinking about it as like a age thing or timeline thing.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, I think that's wise.

[Eric Andre]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm excited for you. Yeah.

[Eric Andre]

Thank you.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm excited for our movie to come out. Thank you for doing this.

[Eric Andre]

I'm excited, too. Thank you so much.

[Ego Wodem]

Of course.

[Eric Andre]

Let's Oh, I have a podcast. My producer keeps being like, you don't promote the podcast on these podcasts you're doing.

[Ego Wodem]

We said it multiple times.

[Eric Andre]

Did you say it?

[Ego Wodem]

I said it twice already.

[Eric Andre]

I have a podcast called Bombing. About. About bombing.

[Ego Wodem]

It's called Bombing with Eric Andre.

[Eric Andre]

Can you do it? Can you do it?

[Ego Wodem]

Can you do the podcast? Are you officially asking me?

[Eric Andre]

Yes, I'm officially asking.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, I'll come. Yes.

[Eric Andre]

But you. I text you. You don't text back.

[Ego Wodem]

That's not true. It's not the full truth.

[Eric Andre]

You're unbelievable. That's the communication subpar.

[Ego Wodem]

I'll work on it. I have work to do. We all have work to do. We all have work.

[Eric Andre]

No, you do. You do. You are a good communicator.

[Ego Wodem]

Thank you.

[Eric Andre]

You never get dinner.

[Ego Wodem]

We're gonna get dinner. I want to go to that place. Department of Culture. You and I, we're going. I've been. It's on my list for years. Let's go.

[Eric Andre]

I'm doing a Chines New Year's dinner this weekend.

[Ego Wodem]

I didn't invite me.

[Eric Andre]

I sure did.

[Ego Wodem]

Literally.

[Eric Andre]

You know what? I gave up.

[Ego Wodem]

Literally. Didn't.

[Eric Andre]

Literally. I gave up. You can look at the camera. Look at the camera, too. You gave up. I gave up on you, literally.

[Ego Wodem]

He did not invite me. I gave up on you, literally. I'll pull up the text, pull up all the texts.

[Eric Andre]

I'll pull up the receipts, pull up all the texts. And all of them are me inviting you to dinner and you coming up with an excuse why you can't go.

[Ego Wodem]

No, wait, no.

[Eric Andre]

Here's the majority of our combo.

[Ego Wodem]

This is too long and I have to go.

[Eric Andre]

No, I got all the time in the world.

[Ego Wodem]

I have to go work out. But, okay, listen to this.

[Eric Andre]

Not me. I don't believe in exercise. I'm like Donald Trump. This is what exercise makes you hurt or something.

[Ego Wodem]

I didn't hear. I don't tune him out. Okay, so I here's. Eric texted me when he moved to New York from la and we exchanged numbers. I think we ran into each other at an after party. You text. We texted like, okay, it's me. It's you. And then I was like, oh, yeah, you're here. Where do you live? And he goes, one word. Brooklyn. To me, that sounds like someone who doesn't want to talk anymore. There was no followup. There was no, like, let's hang.

[Eric Andre]

What are you talking about?

[Ego Wodem]

You know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about.

[Eric Andre]

You brought this up. Before on. Over the summer, you had some weird spiral.

[Ego Wodem]

No, I showed everyone the text. They sided with me.

[Eric Andre]

No, no, no. You led the witness.

[Ego Wodem]

No, I didn't.

[Eric Andre]

Where do you live? Brooklyn. Okay, Then you ask, what part of Brooklyn? And I say the part, and then you go, oh, I'm not doing the.

[Ego Wodem]

Storytelling right, because I have to.

[Eric Andre]

You didn't do your end of the bargain, which is continue the conversation.

[Ego Wodem]

He's. You ended it, counselor. He's misrepresenting the situation.

[Eric Andre]

Order her. Order. Order. No, said Brooklyn. You go, oh, I live in Queens or I live in. Man, I live in this part of.

[Ego Wodem]

I have to go.

[Eric Andre]

That's how people.

[Ego Wodem]

I've never had to kick someone off of my podcast.

[Eric Andre]

I got all the time in the world.

[Ego Wodem]

I've never had to kick someone off my thermal. No, I need to leave. No, you're not doing that. I need to leave, okay?

[Eric Andre]

I can do whatever I want.

[Ego Wodem]

So I said, it's a go. Good seeing you the other day. You live in New York now, question mark. He says, hey, girl. Yep, I'm in Brooklyn. I go, okay, same where in Brooklyn? And then he says, where? And that's it.

[Eric Andre]

Where in Brooklyn? I asked you where? And you said. And you didn't respond.

[Ego Wodem]

And then I called.

[Taylor Stigatz]

You said, where?

[Eric Andre]

Or I said, where?

[Ego Wodem]

I said, where? Then he doesn't ask me a single other question.

[Eric Andre]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You asked me, and I left you on read.

[Ego Wodem]

You just answered, where in Brooklyn? You just said, where? And then I brought this up to you over. Over the summer. We were shooting. Shooting. And then as a result, you then texted me in real time while I was standing next to you. Let's meet up. I'm looking for friends. Because you know that that exchange was incomplete and everyone else agreed.

[Eric Andre]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Ego Wodem]

Anyway, guys, it's been amazing.

[Eric Andre]

Thank you so much. I completed the.

[Ego Wodem]

Thank you so much.

[Eric Andre]

Show me the thing. Show me the thing. I don't believe you. You didn't show me.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm kicking you out with cutting.

[Eric Andre]

Okay, you read it, but I don't believe you. Wait, I'm not done putting on my shirt. You can't leave me like this. I'm half naked. You're leaving. I just punched you in the garage. I'm so sorry.

[Ego Wodem]

He did punch me in the garage.

[Eric Andre]

I'm canceled. Sorry.

[Ego Wodem]

That was my discussion with Eric Andre. Don't you just love him? I do, I do. Did you guys wash your hands at any point during listening? Maybe you were just listening. You weren't watching and you washed your hands. That is a turn on for me. It really is a turn on for me. Anyway, if you want advice from me and my next guest, please call me. Leave me a voice message. The number is 502-8493-237502-84932. Can you tell I grew up listening to the radio? I hope it shows. Thanks dad is a production of Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeart podcast. I'm your host, Ego Wodem, Our producer is Kevin Bartelt and our executive producer is Matt Apodaca.

[Taylor Stigatz]

Stugatz here. I have a podcast empire that I have brought here to iheart and I'm also hosting a daily live radio show show from 3 to 5pm Eastern Cults to Gods and Company Live, which is available in podcast form right when the show finishes. Every single day you can expect a lot of laughter, great guests, a ton of calls and a lot of fun. Listen to Stew Gotts Co. Live and our original podcast Stew Gotts Co. And God bless Football. And you can check all of those out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Eric Andre]

1969 Malcolm and Martin are gone. America is in crisis and at Morehouse College, the students make their move.

[Hans Charles]

These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson locked up. The members of the board of trustees, including Martin Luther King Senior. It's the true story of protest and rebellion in black American history that you'll never forget.

[Eric Andre]

I'm Hans Charles Armenalek Lumumba.

[Hans Charles]

Listen to the A Building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Ego Wodem]

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