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Ego Wodem
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Ego Wodem
The World cup is going on. That is exciting. Imagine soccer, or as the rest of the world calls it, football is happening. And there are people in jerseys and excited Abby rooting for me because I don't know what I'm talking about, but I do know I'm rooting for England and the United States of America. I'm rooting for them. I found out Nigeria is no longer in the World Cup. Nigeria is not. Let me know if it's not immediately clear. I don't know too much about sports, but I do really love them. The notion, the concept. I really do fuck with it. Nigeria is not. He silently nods, shakes his head. I'm drinking coffee. I'm very sleep deprived. So yeah, I'm rooting for England and the United States. Is Italy in the World Cup? Silent shakes of heads. Italy's not in the World Cup. That's another place I like. I would be happy to root for them, but they're not in the World Cup. But I will be visiting Italy and maybe that's a win for me. Who are you rooting for? Listeners Watch the World Cup. Do my listeners follow sports? I'd really be curious to know. Yeah, leave it in the comments anywhere. Name your favorite country while you're at it. Just in general. World cup or not. The vibes in New York City, they're electric. It's sports. It's sports. It's heat. It's rain. Okay, maybe I shouldn't have done an intro today. Maybe I shouldn't have done an intro. It's okay. No, we're doing. It's fine. It's happening. But guess what? Everyone in this room, you can't see them. Cause I'm imagining. So supportive. So supportive of me. This podcast is a delight to get to do. I'm so grateful any of you listen to anything I have to say. Of course. My guests always have something interesting to say. I'm always excited to talk to them. I'm very excited today to talk to the next guest, Jerry o'.
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
Connell.
Ego Wodem
I'll do a proper intro later. Turn up your volume if you wanted to hear that. But that was a spoiler. Talking to Jerry o' Connell today. And I have a feeling it's gonna be juicy. Very juicy. No couture. So stay tuned. Why do I say stay tuned? Can anyone answer? It's tv. This is podcasts. So keep listening. Keep listening. Don't take that phone call, don't go into that other room. Keep listening. Because we're gonna be talking to in just a couple seconds. Mere seconds. I love you.
Jerry O'Connell
You know what I really wanna do here?
Ego Wodem
Tell me.
Jerry O'Connell
Are you ready?
Ego Wodem
I'm so ready.
Jerry O'Connell
I wanna do that opening ad with you. I wanna read it.
Ego Wodem
You wanna read it?
Jerry O'Connell
I wanna read it.
Ego Wodem
You wanna do your own. You wanna do your intro?
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah, I don't wanna do my intro. I wanna do that. You do like a good two minute
Ego Wodem
popping off about absolutely nothing.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah, but usually it's like for like what was. It's like a deodorant without aluminum or something. Or it's for a mattress, some people. Or it's for a stamps company. I wanna read the whole thing.
Ego Wodem
Do you know that I'm not. If you can't tell, I'm not reading. I'm just running my mouth because they gave.
Jerry O'Connell
Oh, really?
Ego Wodem
There's no reading happening. You can't.
Jerry O'Connell
Well, I thought maybe there's like some facts about the product or something.
Ego Wodem
Quite literally, no. And the deodorant thing, I'm not even pitching any particular deodorant. It was just please use aluminum. And I know it's.
Ryan Reynolds
Use it.
Ego Wodem
Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
I thought we're not supposed to use it.
Ego Wodem
That's what the people are saying. But what are the people smelling?
Jerry O'Connell
Oh, do you think it affects. Does aluminum stop the smell?
Ego Wodem
Stops the stanks.
Jerry O'Connell
Just to let you know, in terms of deodorant, I'm wearing it today.
Ego Wodem
Good.
Jerry O'Connell
I only use spray deodorant spray. I just don't use roll on.
Ego Wodem
I just recently got into spray.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah.
Ego Wodem
Why did you make this switch? Tell me.
Jerry O'Connell
I'M gonna tell you, it's a refreshing shot. It's like coldness under your armpits.
Ego Wodem
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
And it just hits you by the way your crew is nodding in agreement.
Ego Wodem
And I always tell the crew, they can talk by the way. You guys can say, yeah,
Jerry O'Connell
it just wakes you up. No offense to the roll on deodorant industry. I know it's big by men, and I don't think it works as well as spray.
Ego Wodem
Okay, so you're getting even more granular than I. I offended some people with my take on deodorant.
Jerry O'Connell
Right?
Ego Wodem
They were like, the chemicals, they're gonna kill us. And I'm like, everything's killing us.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Ego Wodem
If every day we're one day closer to death.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah. Well, I have to tell you, I live with someone. And when I say I live with someone, I mean my wife, Rebecca Romaine, rubs crystals under her arms. And I'm here to tell everyone, it doesn't work. The crystals under the arms doesn't work.
Ego Wodem
It's not affecting me.
Jerry O'Connell
I don't mind the way my wife. It doesn't offend me. I actually, this is gonna get a little dirty.
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
I actually,
Jerry O'Connell
this is gonna get a little freaky.
Ego Wodem
Get freaky.
Jerry O'Connell
I kinda like it when I can smell my wife's body odor. It's kind of like, yeah, she's alive. We're alive, we're living. It's like, it's like a little kicking and like, it's a little punky town. Yeah.
Ego Wodem
Twitch in the eye.
Jerry O'Connell
I was twitching my eye for those who aren't watching this. And it's like, wow, I'm next to a living person and I can smell her odor. And it's, like, exciting. And my wife is always like, you know. Cause my wife is very conscious about things like what? The people you offended, I'm sure.
Ego Wodem
Yes.
Jerry O'Connell
I mean, we didn't talk about me coming on here. My wife was like, you tell her aluminum's bad. Oh, that's the aluminum lady.
Ego Wodem
I've heard. I've heard.
Jerry O'Connell
I know it's bad, but my wife rubs crystals under her arms, and it has no. And I want to. I'm not even gonna apologize to the crystal deodorant industry, okay? It's not a thing. Crystals don't cure body odor.
Ego Wodem
They don't. You said it first. Basically, firsthand account here. Because you can smell. You're smelling the ineffectiveness of the crystals. The freaky thing is you like it. You like it, you freak. You're in love. You love your wife. I Think is largely what that is.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah, I do. I'm shocked. I'm with my wife. For those who don't know, my wife's name is Rebecca Romijn, supermodel, like, on the COVID of magazines. Couldn't believe. I couldn't believe my wife chose to be with me. Like, from a marital standpoint, from an emotional standpoint, from a physical standpoint. And very, very appreciative.
Ego Wodem
You're so appreciative she's with you. That's beautiful.
Jerry O'Connell
To the point where I don't. I really try not to fight.
Ego Wodem
Really?
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
I really try not to wait.
Ego Wodem
Okay. But here's.
Jerry O'Connell
It happens. I'm not gonna beat George Clooney here. Listen, I gotta shout out George Clooney. I'm gonna shout out the Crystal and George Clooney. I couldn't believe George Clooney did that interview for his play and was like, my wife and I just don't fight.
Ego Wodem
Wow. I mean. Well, here's the thing, though. I don't know if that's good. I'm no relationship expert by any stretch of the imagination.
Jerry O'Connell
Are you in a relationship? Are we allowed to talk about that?
Ego Wodem
I am. Did you think this might be my wedding ring and band or engagement and band?
Jerry O'Connell
It is on your left hand.
Ego Wodem
It is. I like to wear rings on the swinger because I'm married to myself. Okay. Married to the game.
Jerry O'Connell
Okay.
Ego Wodem
You know what I'm saying? I do. I, like, actively put jewelry on this finger. And when my boyfriend proposes, I'll probably have a ring already on this finger.
Jerry O'Connell
I am a ring wearer. My wife has told me she was in relationships with people who did not wear rings.
Ego Wodem
I've seen those men.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
And I'm a ring wearer. I take it off for work. I get scared when I take it off. Cause I'm an actor and I portray characters. Gotta give a shout out to why I'm here. Summer's Last Resort on Tubi. Incredible streaming service. And that's a movie I'm pushing. It's Great. Coming out July 4th weekend. But when I portray that character, I do have to take my ring off and I get so scared, I safety pin it to my underwear.
Ego Wodem
Oh, my goodness. And you don't even give it to the person in the wardrobe department. You're like, I have to have this on my person.
Jerry O'Connell
You know this. As a fellow thespian, you can hand it off to a wardrobe person and say, hey, hold this. I'll take it after work. The problem is, you just leave. Like, when they say rap. You just get out of there.
Ego Wodem
You do. And then you're like, shit, I left my smile. Has that happened to you ever?
Jerry O'Connell
It has. And then I'm not wearing my ring. And then my wife is like, why aren't you wearing your ring? Do we need to talk about this? And is this crystal deodorant working? But I just don't like to lose my ring. You know, it's always. I find it shady when spouses are like, I lost my ring, man.
Ego Wodem
Yeah. Why was it off? You're not an actor. Why the fuck was your ring off? I had a friend who is now divorced. It's a woman, but she didn't ever wear her ring. And it was like, it bothers me. And she wasn't an infidel, but she wasn't an infidel. But I don't think it was a great marriage in retrospect. But I'm like. And obviously it didn't work out. But she was like, it just bothers me. It bothers me to have a ring on this finger. And here I am wearing costume jewelry for funsies on that finger.
Jerry O'Connell
Let me just get back to calling out George Clooney, who is a very nice guy who did buy me and my wife dinner once. That was really nice of him. So I gotta say, he's a nice guy. But it did annoy me to no end when he said that he and his wife have never gotten into a fight.
Ego Wodem
That's not good. I mean, again, why I'm getting so. I don't think that's good, because all
Jerry O'Connell
my wife and I do probably is we have a relationship based on. I don't want to say based on fighting, but it's like, what level of fighting? We could be at DEFCON 5 or at DEFCON 1.
Ego Wodem
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
But we're always at a DEFCON. There's always.
Ego Wodem
Always.
Jerry O'Connell
And I. I think I annoy my wife to no end. I. And. And honestly, I'm a. I'm a tough person to live with.
Ego Wodem
I love the self awareness.
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
Yeah.
Ego Wodem
What do you think is like, the. What do you think?
Jerry O'Connell
I'm a stressful guy. I worry about work. I worry about. I. I don't know if it's because I'm a New Yorker. I don't know if it's because I was a child actor. I worry at. I worry when there's. When there's too much quiet. And my wife thrives on quiet.
Ego Wodem
Oh, how do you. How did you. Okay. How did you guys make this work? Because that's two. This sounds opposites.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah. I think my wife finds me engaging and funny. I think I make my wife laugh. I made it a point when I met my wife. My wife was coming out of a divorce, and my wife needed to laugh. And you won't be able to tell from this interview today, but I can make people laugh.
Ego Wodem
You've made me laugh.
Jerry O'Connell
Okay, good.
Ryan Reynolds
All right.
Ego Wodem
You've made me laugh. And then there's silent smiles happening around the room.
Jerry O'Connell
No, the only. The only affirmations I got from your crew here is when I said the crystals don't work, your camera person here went, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ego Wodem
Well, he. He's. He's got opinions, and you can look to him for direction. In fact, don't even pay attention to me. He's got all the answers over there. Here's the thing is, you're not wrong. That's. To be emphatically in agreement with that point is not radical, in my opinion, in that it's a crystal. I don't know that it's supposed to be deodorizing by nature, and I don't know that it is an antiperspirant also by nature. Right. But the fact that you love your wife's bo, that's really beautiful, you realize, because BO does not smell delicious.
Jerry O'Connell
Oh, I don't like anyone else's. Anyone else's.
Ego Wodem
It's just your wife.
Jerry O'Connell
Revolting.
Ego Wodem
Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
I mean, really, really revolting.
Ego Wodem
Beautiful.
Jerry O'Connell
But, yeah. But I do make my wife laugh. I do. And I do go out of my way, and I really. It's my most important audience, really, if I can crack a laugh out of her, because we've been together over 20 years, so if I actually get laughter, it's a big victory. It's a big victory.
Ego Wodem
Cause she knows all your jokes. She knows all your tricks. She can predict what you're gonna do next. And comedy thrives on the unpredictable. Right, Jerry?
Jerry O'Connell
That's what they say.
Ego Wodem
Wait, I need to do an intro for you. Cause we dove right in. Yeah, but I'm gonna do an intro for you. And if at any point you think I smell bad or the intro is incorrect, you chime in. Okay. I also have a confession.
Jerry O'Connell
Okay.
Ego Wodem
I, rushing out the door today, forgot to put deodorant on.
Jerry O'Connell
Don't smell. I couldn't tell.
Ego Wodem
You're just being nice. Does anybody else smell me? But here's the thing.
Jerry O'Connell
I don't think so.
Ego Wodem
I sprayed hand sanitizer on my underarms, because when in a pinch, if you forget to put deodorant on, which is my nightmare, but has happened to me now four or five times in this lifetime. Hand sanitizer.
Jerry O'Connell
Didn't know that.
Ego Wodem
But back to you. I'm gonna do this intro, and if I do smell you say something.
Jerry O'Connell
Oh, actually, I did.
Ego Wodem
Oh, you got a whiff.
Jerry O'Connell
No, I got a whiff of hand sanitizer.
Ego Wodem
No, you didn't.
Ryan Reynolds
I'm kidding.
Ego Wodem
I made that up. Okay. Cause I was gonna say no chintz. That's strong. My next guest, who you've been hearing from for minutes at this point, is an actor and host who you know from Stand By. Me, Sliders and the New Mo. Summer's Last Resort.
Jerry O'Connell
Plugged it already.
Ego Wodem
Yeah. Which he already plugged. It's Jerry o'. Connell.
Jerry O'Connell
How are you?
Ego Wodem
I'm so good. It's so nice to meet you.
Jerry O'Connell
It's so incredible being here. First time, long time. I'm good friends with Michelle Buteau. I listened to that episode from beginning to end. Very funny.
Ego Wodem
Thank you.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah, that was a great intro. I really feel.
Ego Wodem
Intro.
Jerry O'Connell
I feel accomplished. I feel like I've done a lot.
Ego Wodem
You have done a lot, actually. Child actor.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah.
Ego Wodem
And now you're here on my podcast.
Jerry O'Connell
Still here. Child actor is still here.
Ego Wodem
Kind of amazing. Did you always know you wanted to be an actor?
Jerry O'Connell
You know, I knew I felt most comfortable on a set, actually. I'm sure you have somewhat of a similar story. When I was younger, I was. They didn't call it, I'm older than you. They called it hyperactive. So maybe when you were a kid, they call it adhd. But we often had a lot of extra energy, excess energy. I was always getting in trouble for speaking out of turn. And my mother coming to meet me at the principal's office would say, like, why don't you just sit on your hands and shut up? When you want to blurt something out, just sit on your hands and shut up. And that was sort of a mantra for myself for years. And then I got on the set of Stand By. Me and Rob Reiner, our director, I ad. Libbed something, and he was like, jerry. And I was like, oh, I didn't sit on my hands and shut up.
Ego Wodem
I'm in trouble.
Jerry O'Connell
I'm in trouble. And he came over me and he went, that's what I'm talking about.
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
More.
Jerry O'Connell
Keep going. More. Get crazy. And I realized, like, I need to. I don't. I'm not gonna sit on my hands and shut up. I will. If I'm in, like, a classroom or in a. In a Situation where I have to sit on my hands and shut up. But I have to make sure I'm on a set as often as I can because that's where I can really be myself.
Ego Wodem
Right. I'm wondering if you were a little bit of a black sheep in your family. So do you have siblings?
Jerry O'Connell
I have a sibling. I have a younger sibling.
Ego Wodem
Oh, younger. Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
I have a younger sibling. He's a little more quiet. I don't know if that's because I talked for both of us. It's funny. I have children now, and one doesn't stop talking and one doesn't talk. And I wonder if that's just sibling stuff, you know?
Ego Wodem
Yeah. I mean, it could. I mean, it could be. I think I'm one of four, and I'm the youngest. I definitely talk the most. Have a freaking podcast. They put a mic in front of me. They're like, she'll speak, but I talk the most. But it's always just interesting to me to see how the siblings sort of end up in terms of personality and who's extroverted, who's introverted.
Jerry O'Connell
It's really fun. As someone who has kids, I have two daughters who are 17. I realized just a couple of years
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
ago,
Jerry O'Connell
and this is my opinion, again, I'm not an expert on this, but I am an expert on crystal deodorant. We're sort of wired. How we're wired, you know, I have one daughter who's a very competitive athlete. She plays volleyball at a pretty competitive level. And my other daughter, I was really trying to make her also a competitive volleyball player, and I can't do it. I can't make her do it. And we're wired. How we're wired. The girl doesn't want to play volleyball. I can drag her to lessons. I can force her to play club volleyball. I can't. We're wired. How we're wired. And there was a little bit of a relief for me in the sense that, like, I guess I sort of blame my parents a little bit for shortcomings in my life. And really, it's sort of on me. Like, I was wired how I was wired, and my parents really had nothing to do with it, you know?
Ego Wodem
Yeah. When you say you blame them for shortcomings in your life, what are some of the things you did blame them for?
Jerry O'Connell
I don't know. You know, like, this is gonna get so weird, but we get weird.
Ego Wodem
We get freaky. We do all the things here, and you can clear your throat anything you want.
Jerry O'Connell
I was gonna Make a joke about crystal deodorant. But we've done enough callbacks about that.
Ego Wodem
I love that you're noting your own
Jerry O'Connell
comedy, and I'm gonna get serious for a second. It's funny. When I was in. I was a child actor. I was in Stand By Me. Stand By Me was a big hit movie. Everyone. You're too young to remember it, but it was. It was like a big hit movie. It would be like Leonardo DiCaprio being in who's Eating Gilbert Grape? Or something. A young actor. And I really didn't have a career after that. Like, I had to continue on with high school, and I had to go to college, and I didn't become. I didn't have the jumpstart that I thought that that movie would give me. And it's funny. I sort of blame my parents for not being good stage parents, you know, and looking back now, as an older gentleman, I'm really grateful that they weren't, like, crazy stage parents, you know, Like, a lot of kid actors get taken advantage of by their parents. You know, My mom was a teacher. My dad worked in an office on 42nd Street. And. But, like, I was like, you know, I think when I was in Stand By Me with other actors, Corey Feldman, Wil Wheaton and River Phoenix, and they went on to real fame, you know, And I didn't. And I guess I was like, with my parents, like, why didn't you help facilitate a career a little more?
Ego Wodem
You know?
Jerry O'Connell
And I realized, you know, it just wasn't in the cards for me at that time. Again, we're wired how we're wired, and that's it. So I guess I was resentful with my parents about that for not presenting me with more opportunities, I guess. But they just didn't know, you know? I mean. And it's funny, too. I have teenage daughters. One who wants to be an actress. We call them nepo babies.
Ego Wodem
We do, don't we? They are maybe, in fact, nepo babies. But if I have a child that will be a nepotism baby as well. Why not? Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
And, you know, it's funny. I have to talk to my children about being nepotism babies. Nepo babies. That people are gonna judge you differently. People are gonna say you're the daughter of that crystal deodorant lady and the standby me, the child actor who didn't make it after Stand By Me.
Ego Wodem
Yeah. Summer's last. Don't say that.
Jerry O'Connell
I'm joking. But it's funny. Again, getting back to it, you can't Like, I really. While I think there are times when you can blame parents, a lot of me being a parent myself is like, oh, wow. So, like, we're wired how we're wired, you know, and we have to sort of come to terms with that and deal with it.
Ego Wodem
Do you. When you were. When you were a child actor and you were in Stand By Me, and after that experience, were you aware that your parents were not, like, pushing your career? Or is it a thing where you, like, five years later, six years later, you're looking at your co stars and you're like, hey, wait, why didn't you do that for me? Was it in real time or more of a, like, retrospective?
Jerry O'Connell
You know, you and I are both thespians, so let's. Let's get into this. It's funny. I felt my first. I can tell. I can pinpoint my first feeling of jealousy. It's crazy. Career jealousy. I. I was in Stand By Me. I know I keep talking about that, but it was an important.
Ego Wodem
I mean, it was.
Jerry O'Connell
You brought it up, so let's talk about it. I was in Stand By Me. It starred four boys. I was one of the four. I told you. The other three went on to, like, real stardom. One of the actors was a guy named Corey Feldman. I'm still very good friends with him.
Ego Wodem
I have no idea who that is.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah, he's a singer. He's an actor. I'll pull up his photo.
Ego Wodem
Yeah, yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
Incredible singer, incredible actor. He was in a movie called Lost Boys about a bunch of vampires. And it was a very famous movie. And I remember going to see it with my friends. And afterwards, one of my friends said, hey, man, you were in that movie with that guy, right? The guy was in that. And I said, yeah. And he went, why aren't you in that movie? What's the deal with that? And I remember, literally, I was walking out of the theater, and I remember, like, a wave of, like, anger coming over me and being like, yeah, what the fuck? Why wasn't I in that movie? Like, what's the deal? Why I'm the same as him? Like, I was just as good in Stand By Me as he was. And it was. It was a real, like, comparison to.
Ego Wodem
Compared.
Jerry O'Connell
Comparing my. Myself to Corey Feldman and wondering why I wasn't in it. Now, that said, after tens of thousands of hours of therapy, hundreds of thousands of hours of therapy, like, I realize that's, like, jealousy and envy, and I combat those feelings. Oh, you want to hear how I combat jealousy?
Ego Wodem
It's. I do of course.
Jerry O'Connell
I think it's really good.
Ego Wodem
Yeah, do tell me.
Jerry O'Connell
It might not be the healthiest, but I think it's good.
Ego Wodem
That's good. I'm here for it. Let's hear it.
Jerry O'Connell
I mean, it's not as healthy as crystal deodorant. I combat jealousy this way. I wanna, like, my goal in life, my main goal is to be hot.
Ego Wodem
Really?
Jerry O'Connell
To be super hot.
Ego Wodem
That's your main goal in life? And how long has that been your main goal?
Jerry O'Connell
Today?
Ego Wodem
This morning?
Jerry O'Connell
Okay. That's my main.
Ryan Reynolds
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
Let's just say it's one of our goals. It's not my main goal.
Ego Wodem
Okay, Top three goals.
Jerry O'Connell
Okay.
Ego Wodem
You're gonna say top two. You're gonna say top. Okay. It's your top goal. It's your top goal. It's fine.
Jerry O'Connell
Let's go with top three. It's definitely top five for sure.
Ego Wodem
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
Is to be hot. One of the most unattractive qualities about someone is if they are jealous and envious and compare themselves to someone that's ugly. Especially if you can see it. If you can see.
Ego Wodem
Oh, when you can see it. But here's the thing. I think when you're being jealous, you might think you're concealing it, but somehow I feel like it permeates and makes its way to the surface. Regardless. I think jealousy is a really hard thing to conceal. I don't know why.
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
I don't know.
Jerry O'Connell
I gotta tell you, this is what I've been doing lately. I've been saying, like, oh, I'm feeling jealous. Can't do that, man. Gotta be hot.
Ego Wodem
Gotta be hot.
Jerry O'Connell
It's top three. It's top three things you want. And you're like, okay, you wanna be hot. You gotta. You can't feel that.
Ego Wodem
You can't feel jealous.
Jerry O'Connell
Oh. And I really combat it by hoping that the person I'm jealous of gets everything that they want.
Ego Wodem
Beautiful.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah.
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
Oh.
Ego Wodem
Where did you come up with that tactic?
Kalpen
I don't know.
Jerry O'Connell
Maybe therapy.
Ego Wodem
Somebody told me all those hours of therapy. Yeah, okay.
Jerry O'Connell
It was online therapy, so, I mean, better help.
Ego Wodem
Not a sponsor.
Jerry O'Connell
Not a sponsor.
Ego Wodem
Not a sponsor.
Kalpen
I get them.
Jerry O'Connell
We gotta do that reading.
Ego Wodem
Listen, if you. I can write some copy for us to read together. As I said, I want to do
Jerry O'Connell
that commercial in the beginning.
Ego Wodem
I mean it.
Jerry O'Connell
Truly, you did such a good job with those.
Ego Wodem
Well, thank you so much. Truly. It's just me talking shit about things that are top of mind to me. Today I talked about the World Cup.
Jerry O'Connell
Oh, really?
Ego Wodem
Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
Are you sponsored by the World Cup?
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
I'm not.
Ego Wodem
I don't know too much about it, but my cousin's playing.
Jerry O'Connell
Oh, of course. I know exactly who your cousin is.
Ego Wodem
You know my cousin? I know your cousin of my cousin.
Jerry O'Connell
Your cousin is on Arsenal, I believe.
Ego Wodem
Arsenal, yes. Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
You are. You're royalty. It's huge. People go crazy for Arsenal, and they won recently that you're one of the Premier League or European cup or something big.
Ego Wodem
Premier League.
Ryan Reynolds
Right.
Jerry O'Connell
They won the Premier League.
Ego Wodem
I know.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah.
Ego Wodem
I know things now. It's a huge deal. We're very proud.
Jerry O'Connell
You should be proud.
Ego Wodem
Family.
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
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Ryan Reynolds
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Ego Wodem
Switch upfront payment of $45 for 3 month plan equivalent to $15 per month required intro rate first 3 months only, then full price plan options available, taxes and fees, extra fee, full terms@mintmobile.com but we're not here to talk about my cousin Jerry.
Jerry O'Connell
We're here to talk about Summer's last resort on tubing.
Ego Wodem
We're here to talk about Summer. No, I like your tactic for combating jealousy. I think also the notion when did I really want to know? When you established that like being hot is a top goal of yours. When did that become a thing for you?
Jerry O'Connell
You know, I am saying it in jest a little bit and I am trying to really combat a dark emotion with like sort of a joke, you know. But am I, do I, am I concerned with my physical appearance? I guess I am. I wonder if it comes from I was a huskier child. I was known as the husky kid in Stand by Me. And I don't really, I don't really judge people physically. Let me rephrase that.
Ego Wodem
You're like, I do judge people physically.
Jerry O'Connell
You can edit that part out. That was a joke. You don't have to edit anything out. I don't judge people physically, but I guess I do concern myself with my appearance. Do I want to be hot? Yeah. I'm an actor, you know, I mean, I had shirtless scenes in a little film called Summer's Last Resort which is on tv Plug make it worth your
Ego Wodem
While to be here.
Jerry O'Connell
Jerry, did I do plank? Yeah, yeah, I did some planks.
Ego Wodem
You did a plank? You did planks? How long can you plank?
Jerry O'Connell
Not very long. I can only do it for like a minute and then I stop and then I go back. I'm like one of those, like minute. Rest a little bit, look at the phone, do another minute.
Ego Wodem
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
But that's about it.
Ego Wodem
So you got some core strength, though.
Jerry O'Connell
I'm more of a sit up person.
Ego Wodem
Sit up?
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah, Old school. Put it in an angle and do sit ups. Maybe get one of those rubber bands to help me get up a little bit. Kind of the rubber bands.
Ego Wodem
I see planks. Kind of boring. I do a lot of planks. They're kind of boring.
Jerry O'Connell
Do you keep a phone under your face and look at it?
Ego Wodem
I'm in a class. It's dark. It's dark.
Jerry O'Connell
And we're playing hot. Is like. Is the temperature. Is the most hot.
Ego Wodem
The temperature's really hot. Because the AC rarely works in the studio. But not intentionally, but you get a
Jerry O'Connell
sweat on most places.
Ego Wodem
Yeah, Big, big, giant sweat.
Jerry O'Connell
Are you a class workouter person?
Ego Wodem
Class. Gotta be in a class. Need someone to tell me what to do. Need to show you I can do it. Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
Do you? I know. Living in New York City, there was an app that everyone was using. Let's get them ClassPass. Yes.
Ego Wodem
Not a sponsor of this podcast. Lots of people use Class pass, even abroad. Because I go abroad a bit and people online were like, get class pass for abroad. I am not a class pass girly.
Jerry O'Connell
Okay.
Ego Wodem
But if class pass wanted to holler at your girly, wouldn't be mad just
Jerry O'Connell
to talk about fitness. I mean, I'm a Californian. I like to talk about fitness. What are your classes? Is it like full body?
Ego Wodem
Full body. It's solid core. Have you ever heard of it?
Jerry O'Connell
No.
Ego Wodem
It's a Pilates inspired workout.
Ryan Reynolds
Wow.
Ego Wodem
Yeah, it's Pilates inspired, but it's very intense and quite painful.
Jerry O'Connell
My wife is a big advocate of hot yoga.
Ego Wodem
Sure. Very challenging.
Jerry O'Connell
Started off doing Bikram, but we saw that documentary on that guy. He was a bad dude.
Ego Wodem
Bad man.
Jerry O'Connell
And so we stopped going there. And then we go to. I say we because I go with my wife. I'm the worst in the class. And I mean the worst. It's really embarrassing and humbling. When there's really, really old people in this class and they are infinitely more flexible than I am. I go. I mean, I'm talking. We have. We have a guy in this class who is so Old. I'm shocked he's alive, actually.
Ego Wodem
Who knows? Might not be right now even.
Jerry O'Connell
He.
Ego Wodem
He could be gone. A goner. Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
And even he like looks at me. He side eyes me like, wow, you can't. Oh, can't even touch your toes.
Ego Wodem
Are you jealous of this man? Do you find yourself jealous in class of this dying man?
Jerry O'Connell
I do.
Ego Wodem
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
But I think. Be hot. Just be hot.
Ego Wodem
Just be hot.
Jerry O'Connell
Don't be jealous of him.
Ego Wodem
Don't be jealous.
Jerry O'Connell
Am I jealous of him? No. I'm actually like. I'm encouraged by him. I hope I'm that old. I like going to yoga with my wife. My wife enjoys it when I go to yoga with her. I've been a bad husband and I've stopped going to yoga with her. First of all, the class is at 7:30, which requires me to wake up at 7.
Ego Wodem
But you guys live close to the studio then.
Jerry O'Connell
Yes.
Ego Wodem
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
I like to wake up at 8. I don't like to wake up earlier than 8am Yeah, 8's cute. But I need to. I do find that we get along more if I go to yoga with her. I try to. I try to do things like that with my wife where we do similar things with each other so that we have something to talk about so that we don't completely live separate lives. I watch a lot of her television programs. My wife loves. I was gonna say ATV show, but it's almost a genre of television now called 90 Day Fiance. My wife watches Sundays and Mondays.
Ego Wodem
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
Cause they have 90 day the regular version, and then they have 90 day the other way. People are going back and forth. And so I try to watch that with her.
Ego Wodem
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
But we try to work out together and do things.
Ego Wodem
You gotta get back to a yoga class. Maybe this weekend. Maybe this weekend you guys go 9:00am class.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah. I do like hot yoga. I don't know why. I like to get a sweat on a little bit.
Ego Wodem
I prefer hot yoga too. Room temperature.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah. I'm good at. I can do Camel. That's where you bend backwards and hold your feet.
Ego Wodem
That's impressive. No reason to be jealous of the old man. That's impressive.
Jerry O'Connell
I can do Camel. That old man who's near death, he can't do camel.
Ego Wodem
He can't do Camel. So he can suck it. No, I think you're doing great. Yeah, that's great. I feel like I want you to go to yoga with your wife this weekend. If I may ask for you to go to yoga. I think it'll be nice.
Jerry O'Connell
Okay.
Ego Wodem
You guys can connect again. I think she'll really appreciate it. And it doesn't have to be before
Jerry O'Connell
8am My wife can do full splits.
Ego Wodem
I was. Okay. You know, I was gonna ask you if you can do the splits.
Jerry O'Connell
I cannot.
Ego Wodem
Can you get close?
Jerry O'Connell
You know what the only thing I can do is I can do the sort of the James Brown split with the leg folded, you know?
Ego Wodem
Oh. Oh, yeah. And then jump back up.
Jerry O'Connell
I can't jump back up. I mean, I could show you.
Ego Wodem
Do you want to show me? Oh, for the people who are listening, you're gonna want to get on YouTube and see this. Should I. Where should we go? Okay. Yeah, let's see this. Okay.
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
Okay.
Ego Wodem
Here, I'll. Yeah. Okay, great. All right, let's. I'm holding the mic up just in case you make a painful, pained noise. Should I move? I should move. I'll move. Okay. Here. I'm gonna move this.
Jerry O'Connell
Maybe I'll go out there.
Ego Wodem
You're gonna go out there? You want to be in the hallway? Okay. I'm gonna stay in here and guard your wallet. Okay. Okay. He's stretching for the first time today. He's hips are tight. He's in the hallway, so he can't. I want to know if he makes a noise through three and. Nice. Did we get that? Did we get that? Should I hold on. I stay, Stay. No, Jerry, Jerry. I want to get a picture. So good. Okay. He did it. He did do it. Let's see him get it back up. Wow.
Kalpen
Wow.
Ego Wodem
Woo.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah.
Ego Wodem
Wow. The energy. That's all we got for him. Come on.
Jerry O'Connell
Definitely. I definitely pulled something.
Ego Wodem
You pulled something on my podcast and we.
Jerry O'Connell
Something near my groin.
Ego Wodem
Do you have insurance? Because we don't.
Jerry O'Connell
We don't.
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
We don't.
Ego Wodem
Okay. We do not overhear. My goodness. That's impressive.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah. So I can do that. I just can't do. My wife does the full splits.
Ego Wodem
That's okay.
Jerry O'Connell
Have you been watching Love island at all? Anybody?
Ego Wodem
I haven't been watching Love Island.
Jerry O'Connell
There's someone named Kenzie who does splits.
Ego Wodem
You know what's so funny is I haven't seen Love island, but I've been on Threads, and I've seen Kenzie doing the splits. I didn't know it was her, but I know that there's a person that keeps doing the splits on the show.
Jerry O'Connell
It's her. Go to.
Ego Wodem
Yeah, okay.
Jerry O'Connell
It's pretty funny.
Ego Wodem
Okay. At a certain point, though, it's like. Isn't it a little like. Okay, we get it. You know how to do the splits?
Jerry O'Connell
I mean, what I just did for you.
Ego Wodem
Yeah,
Jerry O'Connell
I did do it at a wedding two weeks ago, but it's very rare that I do that. Half split. It's very rare.
Ego Wodem
Very rare. Well, thank you for gracing us with that. Here on. Thanks, dad. Excuse me. I feel very honored.
Jerry O'Connell
Oh, you know what? I'm embarrassed to ask this.
Ego Wodem
Oh, my goodness.
Jerry O'Connell
I am a dad. Why, thanks, dad. What is the story behind that?
Ego Wodem
So don't listen to the podcast.
Jerry O'Connell
Well, I didn't hear.
Ego Wodem
I'm just. I don't mean to. Shame. I'll tell you. Yeah, I'll tell you. It's because the original conceit of the podcast was that I don't have a relationship with my dad. So I was bringing guests on in the first season to be my dad for the day, and we'd have conversations about parenthood, and I'd get to ask them advice. But I do have a question for you about parenthood, because you've said that you're wired, how you're wired, and you said that a few times. And you have two daughters who are twins, 17 years old. What do you see your role to be as a father to them, considering you feel so strongly that you're wired, how you're wired?
Jerry O'Connell
Take my time answering this.
Ego Wodem
Please do. Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
Because I got to think about how I'm gonna say this. You know, my wife, who is my best friend, has a very complicated relationship with her father. I'm talking about. I'm saying this because I don't think he'll ever see this or hear it. It's not your demographic, but my wife has a complicated relationship with her father. And I gotta tell you, the thing I think about a lot, and I see how tough it is for my wife to have that complicated relationship with her father. It's tough, man. It's hard on her. I'm gonna tell you. I think it's one of the hardest things in her life. And I want to make sure I don't have a complicated relationship with my daughters, that they can always come to me. I know I should make a joke about crystal deodorant right now.
Ego Wodem
You actually shouldn't.
Jerry O'Connell
But I'm gonna tell you, I really. I want my relationship with my daughters and I only have two daughters to be the least complicated relationship they have in their lives.
Ego Wodem
It's a stunning endeavor. That's. Does that. Does that goal feel challenging to you at this point?
Jerry O'Connell
It feels. It feels foreign because I didn't grow up with sisters, and I can talk smack about her because My mom is not your demographic and won't listen to this.
Ego Wodem
You know, you never. You'd be surprised, Jerry, who listens to my podcast. Okay, Your mom, she's one of. We send fan mail back and forth.
Jerry O'Connell
I heard you on.
Ego Wodem
Thanks, Dad.
Jerry O'Connell
I heard what you did. You did the splits. You gotta rip your groin up and. Is that what you do? Who you think you are, James Brown? But you know, my mom, because she was just my brother, and I was sort of like. She sort of, like, took on sort of like a guy. She was, like, masculine. She dressed like us. You know, she wore. She. She dressed like us. My mom was a teacher. And it's funny, we all wore, like, the same jeans and, like, T shirts and stuff and like, like in the
Ego Wodem
family, it was like, we all. We're not like, sharing the jeans.
Jerry O'Connell
No, no.
Ego Wodem
J, A, N S. No jeans.
Jerry O'Connell
G, J, E, A, N, S. Like, my mom's a tall lady, six footer, you know?
Ego Wodem
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
My mom sort of like, I didn't grow up with. I don't mean to assign gender, but I did not grow up with girl energy in my Ever feminine energy in the house.
Ego Wodem
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
And my wife was really my first. I had a girlfriend, but my wife was. Is like my first. I never lived with a woman until I met my wife. So my wife was like the first woman I've really, like, lived with. Like, been around a lot. I mean, I've been with women before.
Ego Wodem
Okay, all right. Brag. Okay. Supposedly.
Jerry O'Connell
I mean, I party.
Ego Wodem
Supposedly.
Jerry O'Connell
No, no, no. I party. I get down. I get down.
Ego Wodem
I mean, we saw.
Kalpen
We saw.
Jerry O'Connell
I get down. I party. She's not a nerd.
Ego Wodem
Okay. Yeah. So you had your fun.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
I'm a generous lover.
Ego Wodem
Oh, yeah. Oh, he gets down. Oh, that's what he's saying. He gets down. Your daughters are gonna hear this, Jerry,
Jerry O'Connell
but my wife was first woman I live with, you know? And it's funny having daughters. Like, I just wasn't around. I've never been around that energy. So it is difficult, especially teenage daughters. It's such a precarious. The only thing I can equate it to is I have cats. I don't want to show off. I know I talked about my exploits, but I have three cats.
Ego Wodem
I have a friend who has three cats. So I'm. I'm. This is normal to me.
Jerry O'Connell
Okay. Just saying. I don't have one cat. I don't have two cats.
Ego Wodem
You have three.
Jerry O'Connell
Three.
Ego Wodem
I know this lifestyle without having lived it myself.
Jerry O'Connell
Love my cats. But it's funny. When you get a new cat, it's such a tricky thing. They don't come up to you like dogs. They don't. They don't. They don't even acknowledge your existence. It's such a delicate balance with cats. You ever lived with a cat?
Ego Wodem
I had a cat growing up.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah.
Ego Wodem
Yeah, I had a cat growing up. But, like, when I was really young.
Jerry O'Connell
What was the cat's name?
Ego Wodem
Diamond. I got to name. Look, Orange tabby. My friend's cat had cats, and I got diamond as a little crawl on your shirt. Kitten. Yeah, yeah. Now I have a dog.
Jerry O'Connell
What's your dog's name?
Ego Wodem
Chief.
Jerry O'Connell
Cool.
Ego Wodem
Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
Like it?
Ego Wodem
That's a good name. And he's a good boy. The best.
Jerry O'Connell
How was Dog in the City?
Ego Wodem
Dog in the City is a challenge. I got my dog because I have an outdoor terrace that's huge, and I thought, great, I won't have to go out, take you. I won't have to take you out. I can just like. He does not fuck with the fake grass. He's like, I need to go. He's very smart, and he's, like, not having it. And it's like, no, we're going outside. And when I outside, I don't just mean this terrace. I mean, you're gonna get in that elevator, we're going out the front door, we're going on a walk. And I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna go the go right away. I'm taking my time, and you're gonna wait.
Jerry O'Connell
My buddy calls it checking the pee mail.
Ego Wodem
Oh, good.
Jerry O'Connell
Got to check the neighborhood, see what dogs. There's a lot of sniffing and stuff. There's a lot of. And it's a lot of, I don't know, Cesar Millan, but there's a lot of urinating on other dogs urine.
Ego Wodem
Yes, that's what Chief has to do.
Jerry O'Connell
This is my block.
Ego Wodem
Yeah, Chief has to. Chief is so small, but is like, this is my block, and I need to. I need to see what's been going on in the neighborhood. Have you ever had a dog?
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah, we have. Are you going to report us if I tell you how many dogs?
Ego Wodem
I am going to report you. I am. I'm sorry. I never said I wasn't a snitch. I never said that I wasn't. Also, everything you say on the this podcast can and will be used against you in a court of law. Do you have a dog?
Jerry O'Connell
We have six dogs.
Ego Wodem
Six dogs, three cats. Six dogs. Now you're getting a reaction out of me. See, the Three cats. I'm unmoved. Six dogs plus three cats. Where do the dogs live? Do you live in a mansion? Can I come?
Jerry O'Connell
My wife. My wife.
Ego Wodem
You are my wife, Guy.
Jerry O'Connell
My wife lives. My wife has a void in her life, an emotional void that I'm not able to fill. But obviously, dogs are. My wife is a real. Go on. Next door, there's a dog that's up for adoption in the neighborhood. It's an elderly dog. We gotta go get it. There's a dog that's about to be killed in. We live in Los Angeles, Riverside, California, which is about an hour away. We have to go get it. So we have a lot of older dogs. You know, every dog's been adopted.
Ego Wodem
Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
Well, we did. Early on in our relationship, though, we did purchase a dog from a breeder. Sorry about that.
Ego Wodem
How was that?
Jerry O'Connell
You know, I used to say I was a little ashamed because we.
Ego Wodem
You whispered it.
Jerry O'Connell
I did.
Ego Wodem
But they can still hear. No, I whispered your name earlier in your absence, and I think they could still hear me.
Jerry O'Connell
We purchased a dog from a breeder, but I used to tell people we rescued it from a breeder.
Ego Wodem
Well, because, I mean, you always pay, but you pay when you adopt. When you're getting it from the breeder, the dog is alive. It needs a home.
Jerry O'Connell
It was a. It was a good dog. It was a German shepherd, and we had heard of this German shepherd dealer, and the dog was a really good dog. It really was. It was. I do have to say that dog was really special. Never fought with other dogs would sit there. Other dogs would growl at it and go crazy, and it would just sit there. But that dog passed away. Yeah, but my wife is a big adopter of dogs. Lot of. Lot of alerts. A lot of alerts. A lot of adopted dogs. Now we have a bunch of mutts from all over. Oh, for the holidays, I get our dogs DNA tested to find out their breeds because we don't know their breeds.
Ego Wodem
Really?
Kalpen
Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
So it's like an episode of MORI in our house every. Every Christmas.
Ego Wodem
So you know all the breeds now? The six that have six, know the breeds. Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
Know the breeds. Found out one of our dogs is part Chihuahua. It's crazy.
Ego Wodem
Is it a yappy dog?
Jerry O'Connell
You know, it's not yappy. It is. It does show. It does get. It is fast anger, you know?
Ego Wodem
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
And found out one of our dogs is a purebred dog. We couldn't believe it.
Ego Wodem
Oh, beautiful.
Jerry O'Connell
I know.
Ego Wodem
What kind of dog?
Jerry O'Connell
Great Dane.
Ego Wodem
Wow.
Jerry O'Connell
It's a big dog.
Ego Wodem
Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
My wife loves big dogs.
Ego Wodem
Okay. Can I show you a dog that someone posted today on Instagram that needs to be adopted? Let's show you. And then you're gonna show your wife.
Jerry O'Connell
Okay.
Ego Wodem
My friend Michelle today posted that this dog needs a home.
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
Oh, boy.
Jerry O'Connell
Is it Michelle Buteau, friend of the program?
Ego Wodem
No, not Michelle Buteau, friend of the program. We love Michelle Buteau. This is Michelle Lee.
Jerry O'Connell
Can I have a sip of your coffee?
Ego Wodem
You can have a sip of my coffee. Yes. Bring it here.
Jerry O'Connell
There's not a lot left. It's sort of room temp, right?
Ego Wodem
Yeah, it's room temp. I drank way too much. It's gonna hit me like.
Jerry O'Connell
I love it. No sugar.
Ego Wodem
Yeah, it's black.
Jerry O'Connell
Now we're talking.
Ego Wodem
It's black. It is yours. Cause I can't have anymore. I kind of want you to take a picture of this dog.
Ryan Reynolds
Okay.
Ego Wodem
To show your wife. Because maybe Georgie is the dog's name.
Jerry O'Connell
I turned my phone off for the podcast.
Ego Wodem
Damn it. Well, okay.
Jerry O'Connell
So it doesn't make that sound at the microphone that goes like.
Ego Wodem
Okay, you're gonna take a preliminary look.
Jerry O'Connell
You know what I'm talking about. When.
Ego Wodem
Like a cell phone, you can say yes. It's a silent. Say yes. You don't have to be silent. It's okay.
Jerry O'Connell
Let me just see this dog. Are you freezing the story?
Ego Wodem
I'm freezing the story. So you're on Instagram. You know what I was doing.
Jerry O'Connell
This is a beautiful dog.
Ego Wodem
Okay, next slide. It's like, three slides worth.
Jerry O'Connell
Gorgeous, beautiful dog.
Ego Wodem
You should adopt Georgie. You and Rebecca. Yeah, we have six, but seven is a godly number.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah, I just. I. Jerry, I'm not gonna tell my wife about this because this dog will end up at our house.
Ego Wodem
But it's so beautiful.
Jerry O'Connell
Yes, but it's gonna be me who's gonna be scooping up his shit because he shits. I'm gonna guess twice a day. Sometimes three times a day.
Ego Wodem
Some are doing three.
Jerry O'Connell
I mean, I don't know. It depends on the day.
Ego Wodem
Wow. Can I ask you a really personal question?
Jerry O'Connell
I usually just go once.
Ego Wodem
Okay. I was gonna. How'd you know I was gonna. I was. Do we have to cut that out, please? Let's keep it. Everybody poops. Guys. Why is everyone so scared to talk about it?
Jerry O'Connell
That's a book, you know.
Ego Wodem
I know. It is, and it's a fact as well.
Jerry O'Connell
I'm like.
Ego Wodem
It's true. Everybody poops.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah. You know, I gotta tell you, I've been.
Ego Wodem
How's your gi health?
Jerry O'Connell
I'VE been incorporating flax meal into my life. I get a healthy shake with flax meal in it. I don't put it in there. Someone at the. I'm gonna give them a shout out. It's called Joni's Health Food Store. It's great. It's a great place. It should be a chain of restaurants.
Ego Wodem
Yeah. Where is this?
Jerry O'Connell
It's in Long Island.
Ego Wodem
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
Joanie's.
Ego Wodem
Joanie's Shout Out.
Jerry O'Connell
They put flax meal on my shakes, and it's been really helping my GI Health.
Ego Wodem
Beautiful.
Jerry O'Connell
Can I tell you, I'm acutely aware of this stuff because where I live in Calabasas, which is where the Kardashians are from, I'm sure you've heard of them.
Ego Wodem
Heard of it? I've heard of them, and I've heard of it.
Jerry O'Connell
We went. There's a health food store out there called Health Nut.
Ego Wodem
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
And they make incredible salads and sandwiches. Very healthy. Incredible app. You can order the salads on the app. Boom, you pick them up. They are now a chain made famous because the Kardashians ate their salads all the time on their show.
Ego Wodem
Wow.
Jerry O'Connell
And I'm so proud. It literally was like a mom and pop named Mike and Shirley who ran the Health Nut. And they're probably millionaires now.
Ego Wodem
So let's blow Joanie's up.
Jerry O'Connell
Let's blow Joanie's up.
Ego Wodem
In a positive way. Long Island. Let's turn them into a chain.
Jerry O'Connell
Yes. Jonies.
Ego Wodem
Joanie's.
Jerry O'Connell
They put flax meal in their shakes,
Ego Wodem
and it helps my GI L. And it's helping Jerry. Talk about an ad. Okay. That's really. That's a good read, by the way, because you wanted to shout out Joni's. I was supposed to ask you something really early. I do this all the time.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah, sure.
Ego Wodem
Always forget to ask, who or what do you want to say thanks to?
Jerry O'Connell
I know this is a. I know that's a common question you ask, and I was thinking about that on the way here.
Ego Wodem
Could be earnest.
Jerry O'Connell
It's gonna be so boring, but it could be earnest.
Ego Wodem
But it also could be a joke. And you're a jokester, it seems.
Jerry O'Connell
All right, let me think of a joke.
Ego Wodem
No, no, no, no. Do your earnest one. It's okay. You seem to have one that you're embarrassed about.
Jerry O'Connell
Here's the joke.
Ego Wodem
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
I want to thank the makers of Crystal deodorant because they helped me with, like, my whole opening bit and, like, a theme throughout this episode.
Ego Wodem
But here's the thing. You've said that it doesn't work. That's a joke. Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
The real one I want to ask. I mean, the real one I want to thank. This is going to be boring. I don't mind a million percent. It's gonna be my wife, Rebecca Romijn. I know I've talked about her a lot. I seem obsessed.
Ego Wodem
I kind of like that you're obsessed, but continue.
Jerry O'Connell
I know I've been a little obsessed here, but I'm very grateful to my wife for. Helping me grow. And I watch a reality show. The initials of the show. Cause I don't want to call anyone out. Are Bravo's Summer House.
Ego Wodem
I've never seen Summer House, but I did watch the Reunion, so.
Jerry O'Connell
You watched the Reunion? Yeah, and it's funny. It's. I'm watching the reunion and I'm watching these guys and girls, and they're arguing. I'm sure you heard this story. One of the girls hooked up with one of the guys.
Ego Wodem
That's to say the least.
Jerry O'Connell
One of the girls hooked up with one of the guys.
Ego Wodem
Everyone's upset you're doing such a kind version of this. Go ahead.
Jerry O'Connell
I know, but they all live in the same house. And the girl was very upset at the girl and the guy. Cause the girl was dating the girl. And the guys were very emotionally upset. Like, I can't believe that you guys did this. Right.
Ego Wodem
This is your description of the drama. The girl's upset with the girl.
Jerry O'Connell
I'm trying to describe it for someone who doesn't watch it for you.
Ego Wodem
I'm honest. You're not doing a great job, but I know what you're talking about.
Jerry O'Connell
But everyone was upset.
Ego Wodem
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
Fair with each other.
Ego Wodem
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
Now, these are people in their early 30s. These guys are in their 40s.
Ego Wodem
The guys are in their 40s.
Jerry O'Connell
Guys are in their 40s.
Ego Wodem
I was shocked when someone said their age.
Jerry O'Connell
And the guys are in their mid-40s.
Ego Wodem
These are grown ass men.
Jerry O'Connell
Now, when I was in my mid-40s, my children were in junior high school.
Ego Wodem
Wow. You were not in the house. Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah, I was like. And I was like, you know, dealing with, like, financial pressure, familial pressure, societal pressure. Gotta get this straight. Hormuz opened. Things are happening.
Ego Wodem
You were the president. I'm sorry, I missed the part. How did I not remember at some point, you were the president of the United States. Commander in chief, trying to figure out
Jerry O'Connell
the straight of the loose. And I remember thinking, like, these guys should be worried about, like, real things. Like, these guys need to be. These guys need to grow up a little. And I gotta tell you, the reason why I grew up is because I met my wife when I was 30.
Ego Wodem
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
My wife was 31. My wife is older.
Ego Wodem
Oh, cougar robbing the cradle. 365 days.
Jerry O'Connell
And my wife, about a year into our relationship. A year. We were going out a year. That's a long. That was a long time for me. My wife said, listen, I am gonna. I wanna have children soon. Are you game for that? Because if you're not, I can and will move on from you.
Ego Wodem
I know that's right. Kind of hot.
Jerry O'Connell
So you need to shit. We were talking about gi stuff.
Ego Wodem
Shit. Because you got. But you didn't have flax meal in your shakes at that point. So you're like, I don't know if I can or get off the pot correctly. Correct. Correctamundo.
Jerry O'Connell
Correctamundo.
Ryan Reynolds
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
And I looked at my then girlfriend, now wife, and said, I'm in love with this woman. If I'm gonna have kids, this is who I would want to have kids with. This will be. This will be a fun adventure. Let's do it. Let's go. But I was pressured into it by my wife.
Ego Wodem
Sometimes that's what it takes just a little bit.
Jerry O'Connell
And I was very fearful of it. I was. I didn't want to do it. I'll tell you another crazy thing, too. I mean, I told you about your poop.
Ryan Reynolds
No.
Ego Wodem
And the six dogs.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah, I wasn't gonna say that.
Ego Wodem
Body odor.
Ryan Reynolds
Okay.
Ego Wodem
I should let you say, I told you.
Jerry O'Connell
I get down.
Ego Wodem
Oh, yes. He goes downtown.
Jerry O'Connell
No, I didn't say that. You sick. You sicko. I didn't say that. I just meant I, like, party. Like, okay, I party. Sorry, what kind of podcast is this?
Ego Wodem
It's certainly not a family podcast, despite the name.
Jerry O'Connell
Thanks, dad.
Ego Wodem
Yeah. I hope your mom doesn't listen after all. Never mind.
Kalpen
I
Jerry O'Connell
had never. I had tried my whole life to not get people pregnant. Like, it was like a real fear of mine to impregnate a woman.
Ego Wodem
Impregnate a woman?
Jerry O'Connell
Yes.
Ego Wodem
Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
So it's crazy in life when someone says, like, let's now try to get pregnant. That's a. That's a big step. That's a big turn of events.
Ego Wodem
Yes.
Jerry O'Connell
And it just happens, literally. Like someone tells you, like, hey, all that stuff of like, I had an uncle who, when I moved to Los Angeles, I'm from the greater New York area, when I moved to Los Angeles was like, here's some walking around money. He gave Me a little cash. And he went, whatever you do, don't get anybody pregnant. Whatever you do. Listen, you're a young man. You gotta make sure you don't get anybody pregnant. It's the most important thing. Not get anybody pregnant. And so I really, like. Anytime I was even, like, on first base with someone kissing, I'd be like,
Ego Wodem
I just can't get you pregnant. Whisper in a lady's ear, I really want you, but I can't.
Ryan Reynolds
Pregnant.
Ego Wodem
My uncle told me not to get you pregnant, but he did give me cash. Does that turn you off?
Jerry O'Connell
I'm laughing. I'm trying not to laugh over your.
Ego Wodem
I'm just saying that's kind of. That's kind.
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
You're.
Jerry O'Connell
You're kind of.
Ego Wodem
I. I just can't get this. You had your own. Anytime you were kissing a woman, you had your uncle's voice in your head saying, you're. Don't get. Don't get anybody pregnant. Jerry. Here's something for you. Don't get her pregnant. So when you were trying, did you hear your uncle.
Jerry O'Connell
Yes.
Ego Wodem
The first time?
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
Yeah.
Ego Wodem
Were you.
Jerry O'Connell
I have an issue. I hear my uncle every time to this day.
Ego Wodem
Oh, my God.
Jerry O'Connell
By the way, I realize this is the workplace, but hearing you right now has got me kind of, like, aroused. Especially when you get that thick Sopranos accent on you, Jerry. I mean, I realize you're Jerry.
Ego Wodem
Don't do.
Jerry O'Connell
You're in a relationship. I'm in a relationship.
Ego Wodem
But you're kind of turned on by your uncle's voice.
Jerry O'Connell
You're crazy. This is so different than.
Ego Wodem
Don't do it, Jerry.
Kalpen
Pull out.
Ego Wodem
Jerry.
Jerry O'Connell
Listen, this is so much more erotic than the Chris Maloney interview.
Ego Wodem
Yeah. The thanks dad can be anything. It could be sex. Have you seen those social media things? Social media things that, like, trend with the, like, say. Say a phrase in a supportive way, a sarcastic way. Disappointed. Can I. Okay. Because it's making me think. I'm like. I was about to say thanks dad is an erotic podcast. It's not. But you're a thespian. I want to see if I can get you to do this trend. Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
I'm sure I can do it.
Ego Wodem
Okay. Can you say, okay, I'm gonna have you say, thanks, dad.
Jerry O'Connell
Oh, I've seen this.
Ego Wodem
This is four different intentions.
Jerry O'Connell
Oh, 100%. I'm gonna be the best at this. I saw this. And as an actor also, I want to talk to the actors out there because I told you I have a. As you call them, nepotism babies.
Ego Wodem
Yes.
Jerry O'Connell
I try to explain to my daughter, when you go in on auditions, if you can change emotions really fast in the middle of an audition, in the middle of a line, it will show the people that are hiring you that you are. You are a spectrum of emotions. So I. And when I saw this trend, I was like, I'm gonna be really good at this.
Ego Wodem
Ok? So I'm giving you your opportunity to do this, okay? So I want you to say the phrase, thanks, dad. Okay? I want you to deliver it straight
Jerry O'Connell
to Gary, give me a million versions, and I'm going to give you every single one.
Ego Wodem
Say, thanks, dad. Disappointed.
Jerry O'Connell
Thanks, dad.
Ego Wodem
Thanks, dad. Sarcastically.
Jerry O'Connell
Thanks, dad.
Ego Wodem
Thanks, dad. Aroused.
Jerry O'Connell
Hold on a second. Could you just. Could you just say, don't get anybody pregnant in, like, a New York accent?
Ego Wodem
Okay, Jerry.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah, yeah.
Ego Wodem
Do not get anybody pregnant.
Jerry O'Connell
What? What? What? Uncle Jerry? What did you say?
Ego Wodem
Don't get nobody pregnant.
Jerry O'Connell
Okay, okay, I'm there. I'm there.
Kalpen
Okay.
Ego Wodem
He's hard.
Ryan Reynolds
He.
Ego Wodem
Actually, Jerry, I have to say, as an actor, you can't wait to get hard on set before you do a line.
Jerry O'Connell
Oh, God. We need a. We need a. What do you call it? A.
Ego Wodem
A fluffer.
Jerry O'Connell
No, no, no. What do you call it? It's. It's. The more. It's.
Kalpen
It's.
Jerry O'Connell
It's the more PC. An intimacy coordinator.
Ego Wodem
Oh, my gosh. Somebody been. I'm an intimacy coordinator on the side. No, I'm not at all. Clearly. I.
Jerry O'Connell
Okay, wait, let me. Let me just. Just give me an end action. Because I'm an actor.
Ego Wodem
And action.
Jerry O'Connell
Thanks, dad.
Ego Wodem
Okay. Can I get you to say thanks, dad, Flirtatiously.
Jerry O'Connell
Thanks, dad.
Ego Wodem
And can I get a thanks, dad? Supportive.
Jerry O'Connell
Thanks, dad.
Ego Wodem
Great. I'm impressed. I will say, if we're on a set and we need to get things done quickly, the whole arousal part, you did require a little more. You're just taking. Hm. Good to know.
Jerry O'Connell
Also, it was. I do want to apologize to everyone in this room, and you have a huge crew here. If they were offended by that.
Ego Wodem
If anybody was offended. Get out of here. Okay. That's Uncle. What's your uncle's name?
Jerry O'Connell
His name is Jerry.
Ego Wodem
I just knew because I almost said Uncle Jerry, and it's like, I knew his name was Jerry.
Jerry O'Connell
His name was Jerry.
Ego Wodem
Jerry. Meet Jerry. Were you named after him by chance?
Jerry O'Connell
Yes, I was. Yeah.
Ego Wodem
Wow. Of course. All right. Mom's brother, Dad's brother.
Jerry O'Connell
Mom's cousin. But we call him Uncle.
Ego Wodem
Sure. Of course.
Jerry O'Connell
Very close to my mom.
Ego Wodem
Italian.
Jerry O'Connell
Italian. American. Yes.
Ego Wodem
I knew. It's like I knew it's like I was there. It was like I was there from childhood. Can you turn that screen? Because I'm getting distracted. I'm so sorry.
Jerry O'Connell
It was a screen of me being aroused in an arousing manner. It was a screen of me in an arousing manner going, thanks, dad. Thanks, dad.
Ego Wodem
Even more thanks, dad.
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
Thanks, John.
Ego Wodem
Thanks, John.
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
Thanks, John.
Ego Wodem
Are you coming? Wow. So I don't want your mom to listen to this episode.
Jerry O'Connell
This is so different than the Chris Maloney interview, but sort of on par with the Frankie Grande interview.
Ego Wodem
Oh, you do watch. Listen. Were you listening? Watching? No.
Jerry O'Connell
I saw Titanique. I'm very happy for him. I know he was here promoting his book, but I saw him. I know him from Broadway.
Ego Wodem
Yes, you do. I mean, he's incredibly talented, very multiple. But I meant the podcast.
Jerry O'Connell
I also know him from reality television. He was in Big Brother.
Ego Wodem
Big Brother. You like reality tv, don't you?
Kalpen
I love it.
Jerry O'Connell
It's so. To me, it's just water cooler talk. Something to talk about. It's fun, it's real drama, and it's really funny. I, much like you, am a graduate of the Upright Citizens Brigade and my first teacher. Let's give her a shout out. Jamie Dembo said to our class at Upright Citizens Brigade, I'll never forget this. Every character you need to play in improv you will find simply by watching America's Next Top Model. And that really made me laugh, you know, because they have so many different characters in America's Next Top Model. Did you watch that documentary?
Ego Wodem
I did watch the documentary.
Jerry O'Connell
And did you hear Tyra's now suing Netflix Getting so juicy. Now, I have to be a little careful because my wife and Tyra are very close and very good friends and
Ego Wodem
do not piss your wife off.
Jerry O'Connell
And they grew up and they came up as models together in Paris. And Tyra gave my wife wisdom. The woman is a mogul and was a mogul before Tyra was a mogul. My wife was so inspired by Tyra as young models. Tyra said things to my wife. And I'll let my wife tell you when my wife comes on this podcast
Ego Wodem
she has to come on. Can you ask her for. Tell her I'm not done.
Jerry O'Connell
I can't wait to hear her say, thanks, dad.
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
Thanks, dad.
Ego Wodem
And I'm gonna have her do that
Jerry O'Connell
in an arousing sort of manner. But I watched that doc and it was crazy. It really wasn't. And I say this as someone who's a good friend of my wife's. It was Not a good look for Tyra. And I'm shocked that Tyra's suing the producers. I thought Tyra produced that documentary.
Ego Wodem
I knew she didn't based on how she was. I could tell she didn't produce it just based on how she was portrayed in the documentary. I do, as a viewer watching the documentary, having watched those seasons, which I forgot about those seasons. And I was so young. I can brag. I was a baby babe.
Jerry O'Connell
Did you watch it?
Ego Wodem
I did. I watched Top Model. I was non stop fan.
Jerry O'Connell
I was a huge fan of it.
Ego Wodem
But then seeing it, we were rooting for you.
Jerry O'Connell
We were all of America.
Ego Wodem
I did Tyra Banks in my one woman show at the UCB theater. Yeah, I did a Tyra Banks. It wasn't an impression, but there was a moment in my one woman show where I do the. We were rooting for you. We're all rooting for you. Because that was quite a moment in tv.
Jerry O'Connell
I mean, it's right, it's. It's a part of history. It's. It's up there with the table flip.
Ego Wodem
Theresa Giudice. Yeah, yeah. Prostitution whore.
Jerry O'Connell
You know, what are other famous reality show quotes? We were rooting for you. Prostitution whore.
Ego Wodem
I think stop being rude. Kim Kardashian hitting her sister with a purse.
Jerry O'Connell
Right there was Margaret Josephs, I believe, said, your husband's in the pool on Real Housewives. That was a good one.
Ego Wodem
I stopped watching Housewives at a certain point.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah, I understand. It can get a little.
Kalpen
A little.
Jerry O'Connell
Oh, you know what's funny about Housewives is and it sometimes happens with unscripted shows is someone like Bethenny Frankel makes tens of millions of dollars and it becomes about like, I could become really rich if I play my cards right here. And I also notice that on that aforementioned show whose initials are Bravo Summerhouse. When people get divorced or break up because so much because a career is at stake, it's not like I'm going through a divorce. I'm gonna show you what happens in a divorce. It's like, I need to not look bad because this is my career. This is how I make money after this. When in actuality, like, if my wife decided to divorce me tomorrow, and I'm telling you here, it could happen. If you would die, it could happen.
Ego Wodem
Oh, no.
Jerry O'Connell
But my wife would say, I want out. Call my lawyer. I'm fucking done with you. Okay, don't call me.
Ego Wodem
Call my lawyer.
Jerry O'Connell
Whereas when you watch, like the initials of that show, Bravo, Summer House, you have to say, hey, let's attempt to move out and let's see how our marriage goes and we can, we gotta give this a try. We gave it a try. It didn't work out. As opposed to people just going, I'm out.
Ego Wodem
I'm really done.
Jerry O'Connell
That's it. I'm done. I need to get away from you. I don't like my life. This isn't working out. We're unhappy. Every time we see each other, we're either yelling or crying. Let's just. There's no kids. Maybe there's some furniture, a couple dogs. But like, let's just by, let's try and make like a couple years from now. Let's have a good laugh at this. But you have to make sure you almost have to win the Reddit war.
Ego Wodem
Oh my goodness. Do you go on Reddit?
Jerry O'Connell
I love Reddit.
Ego Wodem
Oh my goodness.
Jerry O'Connell
I love Reddit. Is that a. Am I saying a negative thing?
Ego Wodem
I go on Reddit as well. It's how I found my doctor that I went to today and waited two hours.
Jerry O'Connell
I won't ask, I won't get into.
Ego Wodem
No, the doctor just went to the doctor to do a yearly check. Because I never go to the doctor and I'm insurance.
Jerry O'Connell
You don't have insurance. You don't call your insurance and say, who do I go to?
Ego Wodem
I do have insurance, but I'm not call them. Imagine I call a business. Never.
Jerry O'Connell
I call my insurance and say, who's my doctor?
Ego Wodem
No, because I can't. The insurance has a website. I like the Internet. Big fan of the Internet. In many ways I love Reddit.
Jerry O'Connell
It actually really helps me out with, with. For example, after this episode airs, I will listen to it. I will go on Reddit.
Ego Wodem
You want to know what the people say about you.
Jerry O'Connell
I want to hear what worked and what didn't. And I'll tell you where I
Ryan Reynolds
I
Jerry O'Connell
find that when I do podcasts Reddit comments, I find Reddit to be a little more positive than other places. I think it is like really informative. It's funny. It's not really monetized. So people like work people probably wouldn't like me saying that. You know, there's, I'm sure they monetize it but there's no like benefit other than people leaving very honest comments. It's not at least my Reddit because it does cater to you, doesn't seem to be over politicized like other forums, which is scary. And I find that it gives me very honest advice and it helps me. You can't tell from My appearance here on this episode, but it helps me become a better guest.
Ego Wodem
Wow. You know, I'm fascinated by this because I think reading comments about yourself is such a slippery slope, because what do you do if you read something less than complimentary?
Jerry O'Connell
I get a comment always. Okay. And you're sitting across from me.
Ego Wodem
I am.
Jerry O'Connell
Am I wearing any makeup?
Ego Wodem
Yes.
Kalpen
Come on.
Ego Wodem
I notice under eye concealer and foundation and a light lip tint.
Jerry O'Connell
Okay. No, I think you're looking at my face right now.
Ego Wodem
Am I wearing any makeup? Tread lightly, Jerry.
Jerry O'Connell
I can't see that you're wearing any makeup.
Ego Wodem
Not a lick.
Jerry O'Connell
I'm wearing a little bit of lipstick because I'm drinking your coffee and I can feel it every time I have a sip of your coffee.
Ego Wodem
Is it tingling?
Jerry O'Connell
It's not tingling, but it's like. It is that.
Ego Wodem
That's the herpes doing its work.
Jerry O'Connell
But no, I. People on Reddit accuse me of putting under eye concealer under my eyes.
Ego Wodem
Oh, And I was joking. Yeah, I know, but under your eyes is light.
Jerry O'Connell
It is white. But I really need you to look very closely and, like, confirm for the people.
Ego Wodem
Yeah, he is not.
Jerry O'Connell
Can you zoom in? Like, can you really zoom in under my eyes? Zoom in as much as you can. Do you need me to move forward?
Kalpen
Are you really in it?
Ego Wodem
Do you know what the real test is?
Jerry O'Connell
All right, hold on a second. I'm gonna move forward. Tell me.
Ego Wodem
He's in my shot.
Jerry O'Connell
One more, more, more. Does now do you see?
Ego Wodem
I know the real test. Can I get a Kleenex? Yeah, Can I get a Kleenex? I'm gonna swipe. Oh, I'm swiping.
Jerry O'Connell
Let's go.
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
Swipe, swipe.
Ego Wodem
I'm swiping with my real hand because I don't want to. Let's go to someone's eye with my.
Jerry O'Connell
Yep. And go on the other side, too.
Ego Wodem
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
Go on the other side. Okay.
Ego Wodem
Show no makeup. That blue line is. Cause this is one of the last Kleenex's in the box. But. Oh, yeah, the blue didn't come off of you.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah, look, none.
Ego Wodem
No makeup.
Jerry O'Connell
So Reddit needs to stop saying I wear under eye concealer. I just have whites under my eyes and that's it. Now, could I have darkened under my eyes and come in here?
Kalpen
No.
Ego Wodem
Well, we don't want that.
Jerry O'Connell
Like who. Like, who goes into a CVS or goes into, like, a makeup counter and goes, make it darker under my eyes. Make me look tired.
Ego Wodem
I'm selling this on ebay. No, no one does. You know, What? Tell Reddit. You should do. Do you ever comment? Do you ever comment? You have an account, clearly.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah, no, and it's me, and people know it's me, and I comment. Yeah, Jerry, I comment.
Ego Wodem
Okay. I have so many more things I want to ask you about, but we are hitting a time limit. You have places to be?
Jerry O'Connell
I don't have anywhere to be.
Ego Wodem
Oh, okay.
Jerry O'Connell
Can hang out.
Ego Wodem
Your publicist is like, what the.
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
Do.
Jerry O'Connell
Do you have somewhere to be?
Ego Wodem
No, you're fine.
Jerry O'Connell
It's Friday. I don't know, maybe you have something to do. I don't have anything to do.
Ego Wodem
I said, he has 10 minutes. He goes, okay, we have 12 to 13. Okay, listen, this is what I want to ask.
Jerry O'Connell
Oh, will you pass me my wallet back, though?
Ego Wodem
Do you think I'm going to steal it?
Jerry O'Connell
No, no, no. I just. I just don't want to, like, be like, on the subway and be like,
Ego Wodem
kind of like the ring, leaving it behind. You want to get one, you say
Jerry O'Connell
wrapping, and then everyone's, like, gone from the building. And you're. You're country house and all that stuff. They're like, just come back Monday and get your wallet.
Ego Wodem
Okay, You're. You mean you're at your country house and you don't want to have to come back to the city? That's what you're with your six dogs and three cats. I know. You live in a mansion, don't you?
Jerry O'Connell
It's not a mansion, but we do have some property. We have a big backyard. We have some acreage, as they call it in. In on Zillow.
Ego Wodem
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
Which is why we have dogs and stuff and the. The frolic on acreage.
Ego Wodem
Just don't forget about Georgie. Georgie. I pitched you the dog. Right?
Jerry O'Connell
Georgie. Oh, yeah, Georgie.
Ego Wodem
You already forgot about Georgie. It's not happening. Okay, I get it. Okay. Your wife. You are. I've said this before, and I mean it with the most love possible. You're a big my wife guy.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah.
Ego Wodem
And I love that.
Jerry O'Connell
I am.
Ego Wodem
I love that.
Jerry O'Connell
I'm very grateful to her. I really am.
Ego Wodem
I think that's really beautiful. Who said I love you first? I have a hunch.
Jerry O'Connell
I think it's gonna be me.
Ego Wodem
Do you remember?
Jerry O'Connell
I think it's gonna be me. Although we did play. We have something really cute I carried in my wallet for years until my wallet was stolen from a hot yoga class.
Ego Wodem
Wow. A classmate.
Jerry O'Connell
It wasn't. I thought it was. This is crazy. Are you ready for this story?
Ego Wodem
Someone came in the studio.
Jerry O'Connell
This is a crazy story. Are you ready?
Ego Wodem
I'm ready.
Jerry O'Connell
I'm doing hot yoga with my wife. Sure, the old man is side eyeing me, but I can do camel and he can't. So fuck you, old man.
Ego Wodem
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
Follow the light at the end of the tunnel, old man.
Ego Wodem
Oh, damn.
Jerry O'Connell
I put my. I really don't dress up for yoga class. I wear a pair of dirty vans and like, take. I'm a shirtless yoga guy.
Ego Wodem
Oh, okay. Flex. Okay. Okay. Topless titties out for yoga.
Jerry O'Connell
Huh? So I usually wear just like a jacket and just go in and wear a pair of dirty vans and my shorts. And I don't shower at the yoga studio. I go home. I'm not like someone who showers at a yoga studio. You.
Ego Wodem
No, I'm not showering at the studio. I'm going back to the house.
Kalpen
Okay.
Jerry O'Connell
I take my wallet out of my pants sometimes I like to get a coffee after yoga. Put my wallet inside my dirty vans.
Ego Wodem
I knew it. I knew you were gonna say that.
Jerry O'Connell
And I know everyone in the class. I've been going, like, we have a. I mean, we have a nodding relationship. We all know where our mats go, like we're regulars. And the yoga instructor also mans the front desk. And then when class starts, click locks the door.
Ego Wodem
Locks the door so no one can come in.
Jerry O'Connell
Uh oh, class is over. I go to slip on my dirty vans and my wallet's not in my shoe. And I said the guy was going to unlock the door. And I went, oh, hold on a second, Yogi, don't unlock that door because it's not locked. Don't unlock that door.
Ego Wodem
Okay?
Jerry O'Connell
And he went, okay. And I went, someone took my wallet. And they're in this. They're in this class. That's where my diabolical mind went.
Ego Wodem
I mean, it's not diabolical, it's logical.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah. And I was ready to rumble. I was ready to Christopher Maloney in the interrogation room, some people in that yoga class. Who has my wallet.
Ego Wodem
Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
I was about to grab an old man by the throat and go, I know you've been side eyeing me, but give me my wallet now because I can do Camel. And he said, that's impossible. The door's been locked. And I went, I'm telling you, I put my wallet in my shoe and my wallet's missing. And the woman who was at the front desk, who had been sitting there at the front desk also said, no one's been in here. No one took your wallet. I've been sitting out here. The only person who was here was the woman who was late for class, but she's coming right back. And I said, that woman took my wallet. I'm telling you. And they said, it's impossible. We have security cameras. I'll show you. You see a woman come in. We're watching it right there on the footage on the computer. Now the whole class is invested because I've said, everyone, my wallet has been stolen. No one's leaving this place until I get my wallet. Because I'm gonna get back to why I had something special in there. And it's about getting back to the I love you story. The woman comes into a class. The class is late. The woman at the desk says, you can't go in. It's late. There's, like a late, you can't go in rule. This woman has pigtails, holding a yoga mat, has a copper brace on her, full Lululemon. And the woman's like, oh, I'm late. And you can see her make a scene out of it. And she gets on the phone and she's like, I'm late. I'm late. And the woman at the desk explains, just come to the next class. It's starting in, like, 45 minutes. She's like, okay, I'll do that. She's on the phone, and she's talking and sitting there, she's on the phone. And you see when the woman at the desk looks away to look at her computer, you see her bend down at my shoe and pick up my wallet on camera. And then you see her, like, on the phone and say, hey, I'll be right back. Can you let me out? And they unlock the door, and they let her out, and everyone was, like, mortified. Anyway, The woman who owns a yoga studio, I gotta give them a shout out. I gave Joni's a shout out.
Ego Wodem
Blow them up.
Jerry O'Connell
Great yoga studio.
Ego Wodem
You might see Jerry there.
Jerry O'Connell
Oxygen Yoga and Fitness in Woodland Hills, California.
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
Great.
Ego Wodem
Wow.
Jerry O'Connell
Everyone is. It's great classes. My wife's instructor, Zach, is awesome.
Ego Wodem
Wow.
Jerry O'Connell
He's. I actually. We take yoga together. I told you that. He. I could tell. He was like, my wife, when she does this thing where she bends down to touch her toes, like, feet on the ground, bending over to touch her toes. He was, like, gently pushing her back down to get, like, a deeper bend. But with some of the other classmates, he was laying on them fully and putting his body weight on them as they were touching their toes, bent over. And I said to him after class, like, hey, Zach, I know I'm in class with my wife, but you can do that like Superman. Lay on her. You can lay on that thing. And my wife was like, stop it. You're so embarrassing. Stop it. And I was like, no. I mean, I think he's maybe being respectful because I'm there and he's just pushing you. Whereas some of the other classmates he's like totally laying on. And the next class I came in and he really, like, he was laying on him.
Ego Wodem
How did you feel? Jealous. And then you're like, I gotta be hot. No, you weren't. You weren't jealous. So what's in the. What's in the hall of that got stolen?
Jerry O'Connell
No, hold on a second. I gotta get to this. I gotta tell this story. So the woman who runs the studio said, you have to go make a police report because it was your property that was taken and insurance and I have to do a whole thing. I went to the police station, I waited in line, I said, my wallet got taken from a yoga studio. A detective came out and said, come back here. And showed me footage of the same woman in dozens of different yoga studios all over Los Angeles. Yoga bandit comes in, makes believe she's late to a class. When the person at the desk is looking away, rummages. Because you don't think anyone in yoga studio is gonna steal shit.
Ego Wodem
I think they're peaceful, Zen out people and that. I mean. And I'll tell you what, as a career, a criminal career, that's not a bad idea though. I think she get a real job.
Jerry O'Connell
I did have to go testify against her. They called.
Ego Wodem
Did you see. You saw her?
Jerry O'Connell
I went to the courtroom. They brought her in. In cuffs. Shackles.
Ego Wodem
In shackles in the jumpsuit. Wow.
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
And her boyfriend was there and he was mean, mugging me.
Ego Wodem
Her boyfriend was mad at you?
Jerry O'Connell
Yes.
Kalpen
Wow.
Jerry O'Connell
And he was like, you motherfu. He was trying to intimidate me. I was not intimidated. I was angry.
Ego Wodem
Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
And I'm gonna tell you why.
Ego Wodem
Because what was in that wallet?
Jerry O'Connell
My wife and I played don't ask me, Boulder Dash. It's where you come up with like, you hand suggestions for a name, for a description or a word or definition. Balderdash. Did I explain that?
Ego Wodem
I gotta hear what was in the wall.
Jerry O'Connell
And it was game night. And my wife handed me one. This is when we were dating. And she wrote I love you on it on a balderdash slip of paper.
Ego Wodem
And this is early days.
Jerry O'Connell
I know.
Ego Wodem
It was early days of the.
Jerry O'Connell
I know. And I kept it in my wallet. And this yoga bandit stole it. And I never got my wallet back. So that balderdash, I love you thing is missing.
Ego Wodem
I'm sorry. That sucks.
Jerry O'Connell
Yeah.
Ego Wodem
She's in jail. Jail for that.
Jerry O'Connell
I don't think she's in jail anymore because she was at another yoga studio. She hit another yoga studio.
Ego Wodem
She was like, whatever. She was like, whatever. She made banks.
Jerry O'Connell
And she's out.
Ego Wodem
She's out. You see, this is the thing. I lock my shit up. No matter. I don't care. My stuff is locked. Yeah, it's the Baltimore in me. Like, I've been to a. It's true. I've been to a party in college, and everyone's like. Everyone's throwing. Okay, I'm remembering this.
Jerry O'Connell
Throwing their coats.
Ego Wodem
So everyone's throwing their coats in that bedroom. I go to this house party in college, and I was like, that's cute. I'm not. Because people go through coats. But mind you, it's a house party. It's an apartment party. But I was just like, I don't know. Who am I gonna keep an eye on the door of that bedroom? No, I'm not. Guess what? Someone rummages through everyone's shit. IPhone had just come out. A few people got their iPhone stolen, credit cards stolen. And I'm like. And butter, we don't. You don't leave your shit unattended. Unfortunately. I understand in Woodland Hills you might, but I just still have. My mentality is like, when I go to my class now, I lock my stuff up. It's all locked up.
Jerry O'Connell
But I'll never get that balderdash.
Ego Wodem
And I'm sorry about that. I hate that.
Jerry O'Connell
I really carried it. And it's so funny. It was a piece of paper that I actually had laminated, and I carried it. It was really, like, very special to me.
Ego Wodem
What a wench. I'm sorry.
Jerry O'Connell
But it was funny. When I testified in court, I had to. They said it was, like, pretty formal. And they were like, what were the contents? And I was like, you know, I always carry cash around with me, because you gotta have some walking around money. I said, the cash. And I said, a credit card, which was used at Target to purchase candles.
Ego Wodem
Boring.
Jerry O'Connell
And I said, balderdash. It said, I. I love you.
Ryan Reynolds
Aw.
Jerry O'Connell
And the lawyer was like, what lawyer?
Ego Wodem
Didn't think it was cute. Didn't care. I think sentimental. Far more valuable than the cash. But I will say also, not too sh. I'm not. I feel like I'm victim shaming right now. Cause I'm like, I lock my shit up. And I also want to say I don't carry cash. Because I'm like. And everyone's always like, you have to have cash on you, Aegon. I'm like, no. Cash gets lost. Cash gets stolen. We can't get it back. I never have cash.
Jerry O'Connell
I do tip, though. I hand tips out.
Ego Wodem
Like you just started tossing money. Will you tip me for this episode?
Jerry O'Connell
No, I actually, I might Venmo you. No, I like, for example, I went to that restaurant. I went to a restaurant yesterday, and there was a line, and I guess they recognized me from Summer's Last Resort on Tubi.
Ego Wodem
Is it out?
Jerry O'Connell
Comes out July 3rd.
Ego Wodem
It's not even out. So they recognized you through the trailer?
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell
Trailers got a lot of views.
Ego Wodem
One thing Jerry o' Connell is gonna do is make his appearance worth his fucking while. You better promote that film.
Jerry O'Connell
But I did the thing where there was a huge lineup at the restaurant, and I had a folded up 20. And I leaned on the dais on the counter where the hostess was, and I was like, oh, is there a table? And I sort of point to the 20, but no one can see I'm handing her a 20. And the young lady palmed it and went right this way.
Ego Wodem
Oh, wow. Okay. It does work.
Jerry O'Connell
Didn't have to wait at all at Olive Garden.
Ego Wodem
You were at Olive Garden.
Jerry O'Connell
Sponsor?
Ego Wodem
I don't think you'd ever have to wait at Olive Garden.
Jerry O'Connell
Are they sponsor?
Ego Wodem
No, they're not a sponsor, but maybe they will be. Jerry, thank you so much for your time.
Unidentified Guest (possibly crew or minor speaker)
Thank you.
Jerry O'Connell
What a fun time. Wasn't it a fun time?
Ego Wodem
But it was a fun time. God bless. That was my conversation with Jerry o'. Connell. How much tea did we get? Enough to host a tea party. Why am I talking like that? Questions to be answered. Jerry's still sitting here. Anyway, that was my conversation with him. What a delight. I love you. Thanks for listening to. Thanks, Dad. I hope Jerry's mom listens to this one. Yeah, that would be cool. I'm gonna ask him in a second. Send it to his mom. Okay, bye, guys. Thinkstad is a production of Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeart podcast. I'm your host, Ego Wodem. Our producer is Kevin Bartelt, and our executive producer is Matt Apodaca.
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Guest: Jerry O’Connell
Date: June 30, 2026
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts / Big Money Players
This lively and candid episode of “Thanks Dad” features Ego Nwodim in conversation with Jerry O’Connell. The tone is loose, funny, and confessional, zigzagging between relationship and family dynamics, parenting musings, career reflections, jealousy, hygiene debates, reality TV, and a memorable yoga-class theft incident. Jerry discusses his journey from child actor to seasoned performer, his marriage to Rebecca Romijn, his philosophy on parenting daughters, and the importance of self-awareness, honesty, and humor in both life and art.
“It doesn’t work. The crystals under the arms doesn’t work.” — Jerry O’Connell (06:22)
“I kinda like it when I can smell my wife’s body odor. It’s like, yeah, she’s alive. We’re alive, we’re living." — Jerry O’Connell (06:34)
“All my wife and I do probably is… we have a relationship based on… fighting, but it’s DEFCON. There’s always a DEFCON.” — Jerry O’Connell (11:16)
“I think I make my wife laugh… It’s my most important audience, really.” — Jerry O’Connell (13:38)
“I have one daughter who’s a competitive athlete… I have another who I can’t make love volleyball… We’re wired how we’re wired.” — Jerry O’Connell (18:16)
“Why wasn’t I in that movie? What’s the deal? Why — I’m the same as him. I was just as good in Stand By Me as he was.” — Jerry O’Connell (24:53)
“I really combat it by hoping that the person I’m jealous of gets everything that they want.” — Jerry O’Connell (27:02)
“You want to be hot… you can’t feel that [jealousy]…” — Jerry O’Connell (26:56)
“I want my relationship with my daughters… to be the least complicated relationship they have in their lives.” — Jerry O’Connell (43:01)
“It was a piece of paper I actually had laminated... very special to me.” — Jerry O’Connell (86:25)
“I kinda like it when I can smell my wife’s body odor. It’s kind of like, yeah, she’s alive. We’re alive, we’re living.” — Jerry O’Connell (06:34)
“All my wife and I do probably is… we have a relationship based on… fighting, but it’s DEFCON. There’s always a DEFCON.” — Jerry O’Connell (11:16)
“We’re wired how we’re wired.” — Jerry O’Connell (18:16, multiple times)
“One of the most unattractive qualities about someone is if they are jealous and envious and compare themselves… that’s ugly. Especially if you can see it.” — Jerry O’Connell (26:10) “Can’t do that, man. Gotta be hot.” — Jerry O’Connell (26:49)
“I want my relationship with my daughters… to be the least complicated relationship they have in their lives.” — Jerry O’Connell (43:01)
“And this is early days [of dating]. I know. It was a piece of paper that I actually had laminated, and I carried it...very special to me.” — Jerry O’Connell (86:25)
“Every character you need to play in improv you will find simply by watching America’s Next Top Model.” — Jerry O’Connell, quoting his teacher Jamie Dembo (67:04)
“People on Reddit accuse me of putting under eye concealer under my eyes… I comment. Yeah, Jerry, I comment.” — Jerry O’Connell (75:48)
This episode of “Thanks Dad” with Jerry O’Connell delivers a blend of quick banter, openhearted self-analysis, and comedic asides. Jerry is self-effacing yet sincere about his gratitude towards his wife, the messiness of family, and his journey as a parent and performer. The free-associative style—riffing from deodorant, to yoga injuries, to Reddit feedback—makes this episode both relatable and unpredictable, with moments of vulnerability, playful chaos, and genuine wisdom for fans of both Ego and Jerry who want a blend of laughs and heart.