Kam Patterson

Summary

Thanks Dad with Ego Nwodim Episode: Cam Patterson | July 21, 2026 | iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this laughter-filled and deeply personal episode of "Thanks Dad," host Ego Nwodim (Saturday Night Live) sits down with Cam Patterson, a rising comedian and SNL cast member, for a wide-ranging conversation about family, comedy, personal growth, and the quirks of growing up. True to the show’s format, they explore gratitude, reflect on their fathers’ legacies, and get real about life’s big and small challenges. The episode is peppered with honest admissions, playful banter, and memorable moments about secrets, grudges, therapy, relationships, and more.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Secrets, Honesty & The 'List'

• [03:49] Ego asks Cam to “keep it a buck” for the episode and suggests a lie detector test.
• They joke about having secrets. Ego claims she doesn't keep her own, while Cam insists everyone has secrets.
• Cam introduces "the list":
  • Anyone who wrongs Cam in even the smallest way lands on his mental grudge list.
  • Example: A girl in 8th grade who responded rudely to a shoulder tap. “She’s on the list till I die. There’s no way she get off that list.” (11:08, Cam)
  • Grudges last unless he receives a sincere apology, but he’s generally friendly regardless. “I’m nice to everybody, but I know... you can’t get close to me.” (17:21, Cam)

Gratitude & Family Shout-Outs

• [06:04] Ego: “Who or what do you want to say thanks to?”
  • Cam thanks God (“woke up today, dreams coming true”), his mom (“she said I don’t talk about her enough”), and his dad (“he was the first to believe in the dream”).
• Cam’s mom wants recognition for her role; Cam playfully imitates her voice, highlighting her loving but honest approach. (06:52)
• On his father’s support: “He was the first person to believe in the dream... of going out and trying to chase something.” (07:32)

Childhood, Upbringing & ADHD

• Cam discusses being hyperactive as a kid:
  • Diagnosed with ADHD (“Oh, through the roof.” [08:14])
  • Pills made him sleepy, not more focused.
• Describes his mom and dad’s co-parenting after divorce and how both shaped his worldview.
• Cam shares discipline stories (got “beaten” sometimes, childhood tales where he was falsely accused of bullying or spitting—second-grade grudges included).

Comedy Journey

• [16:33] Cam's comedic journey began with storytelling at Foot Locker (“I would just tell stories... Are you doing standup? You know that, right?”).
• First did standup at 19, stopped, then started again at 22 after a stint of “doing stuff” (implied hustling/scheming on the side—jokingly unclear if legal or not). Realized it wasn't for him: “I wasn’t good at moving stuff.” (24:30)
• Importance of resilience: Cam’s dad advised to “just keep going, be even-keeled, don’t get too happy or too down.” (21:22)
• On bombing: “It’s a necessary evil... I never blamed the crowd… If you’re cold enough, they will laugh.” (22:06–22:32)

Therapy, Mental Health & Masculinity

• Ego asks Cam if he goes to therapy ([13:16]): “Why?... Why would I tell somebody else?” Cam prefers talking to friends or “going on stage” as his therapy.
• Ego pushes back, stressing that stand-up is not a substitute for personal work.
• Cam jokes about generational and gender perceptions around therapy: “We used to be warriors… now I’m gonna sit on a couch and be like, so how you feeling today?” (13:46)

Sibling Dynamics & Middle Child Realness

• Cam: One of five siblings, but his mom’s only child (“She want me to let them know!” [15:31])
• Feels natural being the middle child, believes attention-seeking is “kind of my whole thing.” (16:27)

Relationships, Love & Cheating Confessions

• Cam has a longtime girlfriend of five years (“off and on”), who doesn’t want to be posted on IG (or so he says).
  • “She told you she wants it, you tell her she doesn’t…”
• Admits to having “done everything” wrong in the relationship—lying, cheating (“little bit of head”—which he claims isn’t cheating, but Ego strongly disagrees: “That’s cheating, Cam. That’s cheating.” [33:02])
• Candid about being put out by his girlfriend and living at his dad’s before reconciling: “I realized... I was very dependent on her... she took me to every mic, drove me everywhere.” (44:22)
• Strong sisterly loyalty highlighted when his sister wants to “kill him” for his transgressions (44:45)
• On future plans: Wants kids (ideally twins or five, to match his family size); would take male birth control for his girlfriend, “for sure.”

Faith, Spirituality & Gratitude

• Prays nightly, credits God and both parents for instilling spirituality: “Every night, yeah... I just want to say I appreciate that.” (25:01–25:13)
• Not a frequent churchgoer but aspires to do better.
• Deeply values home (Orlando), appreciates his upbringing despite typical ups and downs.

Comedy & Social Media

• Cam tries to be helpful to young comics: “If anybody see me… I got answers.”
  • His core advice: Stay on stage and stay even-keeled.
• Admits to following/following and unfollowing adult content creators on Twitter. “That’s where the best porn is—on Twitter.” (53:15) Unfollowed for personal self-control.

Identity, Authenticity, and Criticism

• Discusses appearing his most authentic self in public and online, struggles with negative comments, but sometimes finds truth in them: “As a creative, you’re your own worst critic anyway.” (50:44)
• On being “artistically free”: Feels mostly free but is still figuring out how to share his most authentic voice.

Material Possessions & Money Mishaps

• Cam admits to poor car luck—old cars always “blew up” (acquired by following dad’s “we only buy cash cars” philosophy). (59:46)
• Says his dad was a terrible financial manager: “At one point, it was my dad, and it was terrible… He was the worst ever.” (58:41)
• On spending: Not big on dumb purchases, but admits to a cologne habit; likes Bond No.9, Creed, Polo.

Lighthearted Moments & Memorable Quotes

• [11:08] On grudges: “She’s on the list till I die.” (Cam)
• [29:05] On his mom’s discipline: “My mama hopped the loogie and spit it in my face. And she said, this gonna stop the spitting. And I never…” (Cam)
• [13:46] On therapy: “We used to be like warriors and, like, gladiators and stuff like that. I’m gonna sit on the couch with a dude and just be like, so, how you feeling today?” (Cam)
• [33:41] On cheating: “You can get ahead and cook eggs.” (Cam)
• [50:53] On online critics: “That’s good. Welcome to the list.” (Cam)
• [55:24] On his dad: “He’s just a jolly guy... That’s his thing, you know what I'm saying? Just gonna be there as much as I can with my kids.”
• [59:46] On car buying: “We don’t buy regular. We buy cash cars, boy.” (Cam, imitating his dad)

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Notable Quotes

• “Everybody got secrets.” – Cam Patterson, [03:59]
• “I keep other people’s secrets, but as for me... I’ll do something and be like, I’m not telling anyone. And within an hour... I tell somebody.” – Ego Nwodim, [04:06]
• “I have a list… if I get even slightly slighted, it’s like, well, welcome to the list.” – Cam Patterson, [10:14]
• “He was the first person to believe in the dream... of going out and trying to chase something.” – Cam Patterson, [07:32]
• “Do you think she even remembers that moment happening? Was it a moment?” – Ego Nwodim, [12:42]
• “If anybody see me… I got answers. You got questions? I got answers.” – Cam Patterson, [21:11]
• “We used to be warriors… now I’m gonna sit on a couch and be like, so how you feeling today?” – Cam Patterson, [13:46]
• “I’m nice to everybody, but I know... you can’t get close to me.” – Cam Patterson, [17:21]
• “Head don’t got no love involved at all.” – Cam Patterson, [32:54]
• “My mama hopped the loogie and spit it in my face. And she said, this gonna stop the spitting.” – Cam Patterson, [29:05]
• “I’m not gonna lie, y’all. Can they see him?” – Cam Patterson, on instantly connecting with crew, [39:04]
• “Everybody got good hair.” – Cam (with Ego making him say it with conviction by the end), [47:38]
• “As a creative, you’re your own worst critic anyway.” – Cam Patterson, [50:44]
• “We don’t buy regular. We buy cash cars, boy.” – Cam Patterson, imitating his father, [59:46]

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Structure of Their Exchange (Key Timestamps)

• [03:49] — Theme of honesty, secrets, and Cam’s "list"
• [06:04] — Who Cam wants to thank and why
• [10:01–12:10] — Grudges, holding onto slight offenses since childhood
• [13:16] — Perspectives on therapy and mental health
• [16:33] — Foot Locker, comedy origin story
• [21:09] — Cam’s advice for young comedians, resilience
• [25:01–25:13] — Cam’s daily prayers, spirituality
• [29:05] — The “spit” discipline story, more grudges
• [31:20] — Relationship status, cheating, and girlfriend dynamics
• [39:33] — Cam’s social style, relationships with crew
• [44:22] — Rock-bottom, dependence on girlfriend, and growing up
• [50:44] — Handling criticism, social media and authenticity
• [53:15] — Admitting to following porn stars on Twitter
• [58:41] — Dad’s financial misadventures
• [62:24] — Lighting round: “Thanks, No Thanks” gifts
• [65:09] — Skin care routine (none), sunscreen refusal
• [66:11] — Question from prior guest: What were you wrong about recently?
• [67:35] — Cam’s question for next guest: “Who is your favorite rapper and why is it Rod Wave?”
• [68:18] — Discussing generational rap favorites, Jay Z vs. Rod Wave

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Tone & Takeaways

The episode combines fast, funny banter with moments of honest self-reflection, exploring how childhood, family, and relationships shape who we become. Cam’s willingness to clown himself—whether about holding grudges, his relationship hiccups, or moving from hustling to SNL—makes the conversation warm, authentic, and highly relatable. Ego’s style as host keeps the conversation sharp, empathetic, and always ready to call out (or in) her guest.

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For New Listeners

Expect a high-energy, funny, and heartfelt conversation, with honest admissions about grudges, comedy, family, money blunders, and love. Both Ego and Cam bring sincerity beneath the laughs, sharing what it means to be grateful, what shaped them, and the sometimes-messy process of growing up—on stage and off.

Transcript

[Ego Wodem]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Cam Patterson]

Guaranteed Human.

[Ego Wodem]

Can superstars even exist the way they used to? 2016 was sort of that last era of monoculture where we still consume things in community. Everybody wanted to be Beyonce at that point. I don't think we'll ever see another Rihanna. What does it mean to be black

[Cam Patterson]

and eat in America?

[Ego Wodem]

You will never make me feel bad for being a black girl or for being a black American girl ever. From music to food to the conversations shaping black culture, right now, therapy for black girls is bringing it all to the mic. Listen to therapy for black Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Ryan Weiss]

Hello, my love. I'm Ryan Weiss, and For the past 15 years I've been an emotional intelligence coach and a spiritual guide. And I'm sharing with you my new podcast, Waking up with Ryan. Waking up with Ryan is a daily audio video podcast here to help you connect with yourself before the noise of the day takes over. So let's start our days together with a moment of calm that's just for you. Listen to Waking up with ryan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ego Wodem]

I just wanna say this podcast is such a joy to do. But I also wanna say don't take medical advice from me or my guests unless we have a doctor on here. I was a biology major. I was pre med, but I'm not post med. I'm not a doctor. These are just my opinions and I'm a comedian and actor and do not take medical advice from me, be it about deodorant or antibiotics. I love you. I don't know. That's not what this is. We all do. Hehehas here. I feel like it goes without saying, but I feel it's my responsibility and my duty. Now I'm all of a sudden getting serious. It's my duty to tell you, don't listen to my ass. I don't fucking know. I genuinely do. Hee hees and hahas for work. And so don't listen to me. And don't listen to chatgpt either. Don't do that. Go to a doctor. Do what is right for you. Read the fine print. Side effects may include I don't know because I'm not a doctor, but I hope that's clear. I love you. I get to have a very fun conversation. There might be spoilers in the background. Maybe you've seen a spoiler in the background, but I'm gonna talk to someone. I always talk to Someone. I might do an episode where I don't talk to someone and I just ramble for an hour. Are you with me? If you left and didn't listen to that episode, I'd understand. Anyway, it's going to be a good conversation. Summer is upon us. I'm happy World Cup. I'm into sports now too, guys. Oh, my goodness. So actually I might have a friend come on the podcast talk to me about sports because I decided I'm into them. I'm into them. World cup has turned me out and into sports and I went from non sports girl to like I with them. Anyway, really fun conversation coming up. I can't wait for you to listen. Talk to your doctor about whatever. Talk to your doctor about everything, but listen to me. But not about medical advice. Listen to me for hehes and hahas or it's not that funny, whatever the fuck. But don't take medical advice from me. Cause baby, I don't know. I do not know. I might be Nigerian. I might have been pre med, but I'm not a doctor, much to my mother's chagrin. Anyway, I love you. Thank you for listening. This is a fun episode, I think. I hope. I hope you like it. Stay tuned. I just ask that you be honest today.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

I just ask that you keep it a buck.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, 100%. That's all I do is keep it a buck.

[Ego Wodem]

We're gonna do a lie detector test.

[Cam Patterson]

Don't do that.

[Ego Wodem]

Oh, what? You have secrets?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, for sure. Everybody got secrets.

[Ego Wodem]

What secrets?

[Cam Patterson]

You don't got secrets?

[Ego Wodem]

I don't think I really have secrets.

[Cam Patterson]

You're a liar. See? No, no, no, no. You're lying.

[Ego Wodem]

The secret is that I'm a liar. Here's the thing is, I'll say to myself, I keep other people's secrets. But as for me, I'll say to. I'll do something and be like, I'm not telling anyone. Anyone. I did that. And within like an hour. No. I tell somebody.

[Cam Patterson]

Okay, Okay.

[Ego Wodem]

I tell a friend. I don't really have secrets. Why I feel that?

[Cam Patterson]

Cause I guess I don't either. He know everything about me.

[Ego Wodem]

Desi, you told me. You just met that man.

[Cam Patterson]

Tell him everything. I knew the first hour. I was like, let me tell you everything.

[Ego Wodem]

Every single thing. Do you have any secrets you recently told anybody?

[Cam Patterson]

Hmm? Hmm?

[Ego Wodem]

Be honest. You told me. You promised me you would be honest today.

[Cam Patterson]

Mm.

[Ego Wodem]

No, nothing. Nothing recently. Mm. Mm. Any secrets you wanna tell me? I'm thinking, so do I seem like a trustworthy person?

[Cam Patterson]

You just Said you tell everybody everything.

[Ego Wodem]

No, about myself. But I said I keep other people's secrets.

[Cam Patterson]

You all right?

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. You don't have anything you want to tell me?

[Cam Patterson]

Think about it. I'll think about it. I'll let you know.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

Okay.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. All right, Cam, I'm gonna do your intro.

[Cam Patterson]

Let's do it.

[Ego Wodem]

I really want. I feel like you got good secrets. Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

I know nothing.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Plead the fifth. My next guest is a comedian and actor who you know from Saturday Night Live and the new Kevin hart Netflix movie 72 Hours. It's Cam Patter. Yay for yourself.

[Cam Patterson]

Yay for me.

[Ego Wodem]

It's like being in kindergarten, huh? Yay.

[Cam Patterson]

I don't know. Every time I see my name, I like to be like, yeah. Hell, yeah.

[Ryan Weiss]

This is good.

[Ego Wodem]

You're naming lights. Come on, my guy.

[Cam Patterson]

How you feeling?

[Ego Wodem]

Good. It's great to meet you.

[Cam Patterson]

Good to meet you too. Yeah, good to meet you.

[Ego Wodem]

Good to meet you.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. That was good to meet you.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. We haven't said that yet. Mm.

[Cam Patterson]

Mm.

[Ego Wodem]

Were you looking forward to meeting me?

[Cam Patterson]

I was looking a lot forward to me and you. And then you decided you didn't want to meet me.

[Ego Wodem]

I guess I said, I don't want nothing to do with this.

[Cam Patterson]

I want nothing to do with this.

[Ego Wodem]

Nigga. That's not what happened. But it is what happened.

[Cam Patterson]

Okay. What's up?

[Ego Wodem]

It was you.

[Cam Patterson]

I kind of figured.

[Ego Wodem]

Did you really think it was.

[Cam Patterson]

You think it was me? Man, I don't know, Cam.

[Ego Wodem]

I don't know.

[Cam Patterson]

I don't know. Who knows, Cam? Maybe it was. Maybe it wasn't.

[Ego Wodem]

Cam.

[Cam Patterson]

How you feeling?

[Ego Wodem]

I'm good. I'm good. Who or what do you want to say thanks to?

[Cam Patterson]

Thanks to? Okay. I got three people.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, it doesn't have to be people. It could be inanimate objects as well.

[Cam Patterson]

God. My mama and my dad.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, can you say why thanks to each of those individuals?

[Cam Patterson]

Well, God, just cause. You know what I'm saying, I woke up today and keep moving and dreams coming true as a blessing. My mom, because she said I don't talk about her enough on podcasts, and she does a lot for me, and I'm gonna look directly into the camera when I say this. I love my mother, and she means the world to me, and thank you so much for everything you've done for me in my life. She always go. She watch podcast. She'll go, you never say nothing about me. You didn't. It's your daddy. Your daddy, your daddy. I did shit for you too. She don't sound that. Sound like a white lady.

[Ego Wodem]

I was gonna say. How does she. She sounds like she's very proper.

[Cam Patterson]

She's very proper. Hello, Cam. Good.

[Ego Wodem]

How you doing?

[Cam Patterson]

Are you doing good today? Aw, she's very white. She a white lady. Basically.

[Ego Wodem]

You're saying she's white on the inside?

[Cam Patterson]

Yes.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you think that's okay to say, Cam?

[Cam Patterson]

I can't say.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm not really worried about. I don't know what's allowed.

[Cam Patterson]

I don't know either. That's the scariest thing that you. They don't tell you.

[Ego Wodem]

They don't tell you, but they be mad as hell when you.

[Cam Patterson]

They just get upset.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

One day I had Starbucks and they're like, we don't have Starbucks no more. We don't have Starbucks no more. It's over. It's done. Okay. I guess we're done with that.

[Ego Wodem]

We're done with Starbucks. I had Starbucks today and I rejected it.

[Cam Patterson]

It's a problem.

[Ego Wodem]

I rejected it.

[Cam Patterson]

It's a problem. I ain't find out. Chick fil a was bad until recently. I was like, oh, man, you can't do that.

[Ego Wodem]

You know what they did? You know what they did?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, yeah, I heard.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

And I love all people say that

[Ego Wodem]

as well to the camera.

[Cam Patterson]

I do.

[Ego Wodem]

And then why your dad?

[Cam Patterson]

Oh, my dad. Cause he, like, he was the first person to believe in the dream.

[Ego Wodem]

Really?

[Cam Patterson]

Of, like, going out and trying to chase something.

[Ego Wodem]

You think that might be why your dad gets more shout outs than your mom?

[Cam Patterson]

Yes. Cause when the dream started, she was like, nigga a clown.

[Ego Wodem]

Harlequin.

[Cam Patterson]

The fuck you mean? What are you talking about? Mm, no, no, no, no, no.

[Ego Wodem]

What does your mom want you to do?

[Cam Patterson]

My mom? She didn't.

[Ego Wodem]

She.

[Cam Patterson]

She didn't know. She just wanted me to have, like, a regular job. And it's funny cause, like, people ask her, be like, did you ever see this for your son? And she. Her answer every time is no.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, okay. So she's honest.

[Cam Patterson]

I knew he couldn't do anything regular, so. Which was like.

[Ego Wodem]

What you mean by that?

[Cam Patterson]

She knew I couldn't sit. I'm not a sit still. You have adhd? Oh, through the roof.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you take anything for it?

[Cam Patterson]

Nah, nah, hell nah. I stopped.

[Ego Wodem]

You were taking something When I was a kid? Yeah. What was that like?

[Cam Patterson]

It was cool, I guess. I mean, I would get, like, really sleepy. That was kind of it. I think they just kind of, you

[Ego Wodem]

know, it made you sleepy.

[Cam Patterson]

It didn't make me work better in school. It was just like we can teach now.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, he gone. We can do what we was trying to do.

[Ego Wodem]

I think that was like an Ambien. That sounds like it was Ambien and not like a Ritalin, probably. Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

I wasn't focused. I tell you that much. I remember one time when I was a Cal. You were a kid. You don't know like it's a drug. You don't know. So I wasn't doing good in school. I told myself, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna take three of them. I'm gonna take three. And then I took three. And it was a drug.

[Ego Wodem]

It turned out it was actually a drug of medicine.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, for sure, though. I was like a dead body for the whole day.

[Ego Wodem]

And the teachers loved it.

[Cam Patterson]

They were so happy.

[Ego Wodem]

Cause you were quiet.

[Cam Patterson]

Oh, they were so happy.

[Ego Wodem]

I actually heard that you have energy. I mean, you could tell upon meeting you.

[Cam Patterson]

I'm very excitable.

[Ego Wodem]

That's good. Yeah. People aren't excited enough about life, in my opinion.

[Cam Patterson]

People is dead, actually, though.

[Ego Wodem]

Some people are actually dead. People are actually dead, but you mean alive. People are dead as well.

[Cam Patterson]

No, people dead.

[Ego Wodem]

People have died. Yeah, I knew that. People have died.

[Cam Patterson]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ego Wodem]

We here.

[Cam Patterson]

You ain't happy that we here?

[Ego Wodem]

We here. I am happy that we're here.

[Cam Patterson]

What I'm saying.

[Ego Wodem]

You know what? I'm blessed. I'm blessed.

[Cam Patterson]

Come on.

[Ego Wodem]

What's the best thing that happened to you this week?

[Cam Patterson]

This week? Yeah, this Dang. What bad thing happened to me this week? I don't know, man. Life been good. Life just. I'm trying to think, man.

[Ego Wodem]

Worst thing that happened to you this week.

[Cam Patterson]

Nothing bad really happened this week.

[Ego Wodem]

Oh, you're just. You're just. You're just a optimistic, happy, go, lucky guy.

[Cam Patterson]

If something bad did happen, I forgot about it, or I hold it real

[Ego Wodem]

deep, and you hold. Do you hold grudges?

[Cam Patterson]

Oh, forever.

[Ego Wodem]

Really? You know, that's. People call that petty.

[Cam Patterson]

It might be.

[Ego Wodem]

It might be. I've been told I hold grudges.

[Cam Patterson]

You supposed to, I think.

[Ego Wodem]

I don't think you're supposed to hold grudges.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, you should.

[Ego Wodem]

No. On what basis? Why do you think that?

[Cam Patterson]

Okay, this is. I'm very different when it comes to grudges. I have, like a. I have like, a list. It's kind of like a situation where, like, if I get. If I get. You know what I'm saying? Slightly any possible way, it's like, well, welcome to the list. And you're on there forever until I get, like, a sincere apology or I feel like you didn't mean what you did in the first place.

[Ego Wodem]

Oh, okay.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

And you can just decide, like, oh, they didn't really mean that.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. And it's over.

[Ego Wodem]

What's the type of thing that'll make you go, oh, that person didn't really mean that?

[Cam Patterson]

It's very. It's very slight. Like, I walk in and somebody licking me crazy, and I be like, list, list. You already. Welcome to the list. You made it.

[Ego Wodem]

What list am I on?

[Cam Patterson]

No, you good list.

[Ego Wodem]

You good list. You're like Santa Claus out here.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, 100%. But it's very easy to get off the list.

[Ego Wodem]

To get off the list.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, but I hold grudges for life, though, okay? So if you only. On your list, you never know.

[Ego Wodem]

And you wouldn't know. You don't tell people, like, I don't fuck with you. Does anybody. Is there anybody in the world that knows, like, Cam Patterson doesn't fuck with me?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably not.

[Ego Wodem]

Probably not.

[Cam Patterson]

Probably. Okay. There's a girl I went to high school with. I tapped on her shoulder one time, and she turned around and she said, who the fuck said you could touch me? That's what she said to me. And she on the list till I die. There's no way she get off that list. What?

[Ego Wodem]

What did you tap her on the shoulder for?

[Cam Patterson]

My homeboy was like, hey, tap her real quick. I'm like, yeah, for sure. So I tapped her, but tapped her for what? He wanted her attention. I didn't even want to talk to her.

[Ego Wodem]

He didn't even want.

[Cam Patterson]

She wasn't even for me.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, okay.

[Cam Patterson]

He was like, hey, bro, I would say her name, but I'm not gonna do that. It's messed up.

[Ego Wodem]

You can give her an alias.

[Cam Patterson]

Can you believe it?

[Ego Wodem]

Bleep the name.

[Cam Patterson]

Say the name, bitch. Okay? And so believe it again. Bleep it twice. So bleep it all the time. I said, this, bitch. So I tapped her on the shoulder. I tapped her, right? I tapped her. And then she turned around. Like, who said you can touch me?

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, a queen, kind of. But I mean, like a queen. If you think about it, a queen fought that bitch.

[Cam Patterson]

Respectfully, I ain't do none of that. I ain't run to her.

[Ego Wodem]

Who said you could touch me?

[Cam Patterson]

Which was. I mean, I guess, how do I get your attention?

[Ego Wodem]

But maybe she's like, you don't need my attention, I guess, you know? But she's on the list.

[Cam Patterson]

Forever?

[Ego Wodem]

Forever. Has she hit you in any way since you've been in the house?

[Cam Patterson]

Nah, my homeboy still be in contact with her, and I always be like, aj, let her know I still hate her.

[Ego Wodem]

Do they go together?

[Cam Patterson]

No. No, they don't.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

They're just like, cool.

[Ego Wodem]

They're cool. But he was interested in her?

[Cam Patterson]

No, they were just. I think he just wanted her attention.

[Ego Wodem]

Got you. Oh, she's dead to you, though, Forever. Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

Until it's over. Or I get a slight apology in this school.

[Ego Wodem]

What grade was that? Uh,

[Cam Patterson]

eighth.

[Ego Wodem]

Eighth grade?

[Cam Patterson]

Yes.

[Ego Wodem]

How old are you now?

[Cam Patterson]

27.

[Ego Wodem]

You really hold a crutch. And you think. But do you think she even remembers that moment happening? Was it a moment? You don't know?

[Cam Patterson]

Maybe not to her, but to me. I never forget it. I'm like an elephant with shit like that. I never, ever forget it.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Okay. And she would need to apologize. If she asked, you would tell her, like, you did this? Yes. And. And you need to apologize to me. Are you good at apologizing?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, my mom said I apologize too much.

[Ego Wodem]

Really?

[Cam Patterson]

I'd do something bad and I'd be like, I'm sorry.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you mean it when you say I'm sorry if you're doing it too much? Sometimes, yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

Sometimes I really mean it. Sometimes just be like, man, just gonna say this.

[Ego Wodem]

Just say sorry.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, for sure.

[Ego Wodem]

Cam, you go to therapy?

[Cam Patterson]

What? Why?

[Ego Wodem]

Is that a crazy question?

[Cam Patterson]

No, no. Why?

[Ego Wodem]

Why not?

[Cam Patterson]

For what, though?

[Ego Wodem]

To get worked on.

[Cam Patterson]

Why would I tell that to somebody else?

[Ego Wodem]

Why would you?

[Cam Patterson]

All my problems and stuff like that.

[Ego Wodem]

You think you could handle it on your own?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, I call my dog. We talk about it all the time.

[Ego Wodem]

No, Cam.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, we have good conversations.

[Ego Wodem]

No, Cam, that's the whole sketch.

[Cam Patterson]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Ego Wodem]

No, it is. No, you're like, no, this is my real life.

[Cam Patterson]

This is real life. I don't.

[Ego Wodem]

No, you wouldn't. Have you ever been to therapy?

[Cam Patterson]

No.

[Ego Wodem]

What? Who?

[Cam Patterson]

I gotta talk about. We used to be like warriors and, like, gladiators and stuff like that. I'm gonna sit on the couch with a dude and just be like, so, how you feeling today?

[Ego Wodem]

It could be a lady. It could be a non binary person. Oh, yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

Whatever it means. I mean, I love all people.

[Ego Wodem]

We know.

[Cam Patterson]

We know.

[Ego Wodem]

I believe you. Wait, wait. You don't. You don't. You see no need for therapy? Yeah. Why are you looking at me crazy?

[Cam Patterson]

Why do I. I don't know who I want. Why?

[Ego Wodem]

There's unresolved things that one might no, that's not therapy.

[Cam Patterson]

Talk about it.

[Ego Wodem]

Cam, that's not therapy.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, it's therapy.

[Ego Wodem]

It's not therapy.

[Cam Patterson]

It's my type of therapy. I go on stage and I say stuff. People don't laugh. Sometimes they just go, ooh, Right.

[Ego Wodem]

But they also can't give you their opinion, lest they be deemed a heck, yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

Don't talk to me. I don't do a stamina. That's my therapist.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm gonna check in with you in 10 years.

[Cam Patterson]

I don't need that.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm not saying you need it. Yeah, I'm not judging. I'm just saying. You what?

[Cam Patterson]

I ain't saying you said I need it. I'm just saying you knew.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. And I'm not saying that you said that. I said, do I go to therapy? Yes.

[Cam Patterson]

How often?

[Ego Wodem]

Once a week.

[Cam Patterson]

Hmm.

[Ego Wodem]

You think it's wrong?

[Cam Patterson]

I don't think it's wrong. How long?

[Ego Wodem]

Like an hour, 50 minutes. And she cuts me off. 50 minutes.

[Cam Patterson]

I don't like that. Why?

[Ego Wodem]

You think it's.

[Cam Patterson]

If I have a problem, let me talk. We should be here all day. If I have an issue. Yeah. If I have a problem and you try to help me fix my problems in life, we got a week. We got a week, then.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

Okay.

[Ego Wodem]

What's something that's weighing on you right now?

[Cam Patterson]

Life is good right now.

[Ego Wodem]

Life is good.

[Cam Patterson]

Life is great.

[Ego Wodem]

Nobody's pissing you off?

[Cam Patterson]

No.

[Ego Wodem]

Really. So you're kind of unflappable. Unless, like, somebody does something like, who said you could touch me?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. And it's like, real slight stuff. Then I drink it over.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you have siblings?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

How many?

[Cam Patterson]

I got four, but I'm my mom, only child. She also want me to say that. She also said I'm my mom's only child.

[Ego Wodem]

Why does she want you to say that?

[Cam Patterson]

She go, cause every time you talk about it, you. You love them all together, like they all other they. You. I'm you. My only son.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

My only kid.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

So she want me to let them

[Ego Wodem]

know, where do you fall in the lineup?

[Cam Patterson]

I'm right in the middle.

[Ego Wodem]

You're in the middle?

[Cam Patterson]

Two before me, two after me. Cam Patterson.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. And then Cam Patterson. Are you close to your siblings?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

You get along with them?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, my two older ones, they older. They, like. They, like, 40, 46.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, 43, 46. And then two younger ones. They're my soldiers. They're my sister Camilla, my sister Kaia. We got paid like this. Okay.

[Ego Wodem]

Really, really, really close. Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

For sure, though.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you like being in the middle?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, I like it.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. Have you ever had, like, a complex about being in the middle or. No, that's never applied to you because you're your mom. You know what they say about middle children, like, need attention. Oh, you are a comedian, though. Shit.

[Cam Patterson]

That's kind of like my whole thing. I think it's kinda. Hey, I'm going there. Y' all don't say nothing to me. I need all the attention.

[Ego Wodem]

Wait, how did you know you wanted to be a comedian? And when did that hit you?

[Cam Patterson]

I worked at Foot Locker, and everybody was just like. I would just tell stories and they was like, bruh. Like, these. Are you doing standup? You know that, right?

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

He was like, no, I'm not. I'm telling you a story.

[Ego Wodem]

Right.

[Cam Patterson]

But it's your stand up.

[Ego Wodem]

How old were you when that.

[Cam Patterson]

I started working for, like, a 19.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

And so I tried it at 19, and then I didn't like it. People was. Everybody that I met when I started on Stand up, they're all on the list. Oh.

[Ego Wodem]

Cause they were mean.

[Cam Patterson]

They weren't even mean. They were just like, I need help. And they were just like, we can't help you, dude. And I was like, all right, for sure. Welcome to the list. And so they still there also. I thought about that. They also still.

[Ego Wodem]

Oh, they're on the list. Yeah, for sure.

[Cam Patterson]

I talked to them, but they're on the list. They don't know they're on the list, but yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

So then here's the thing about the list, is that, like, if you're still gonna talk to the people and you're still gonna be friendly with the people and cordial. What does it even mean?

[Cam Patterson]

I'm nice to everybody, but I knew

[Ego Wodem]

it's just you, you know, I don't fuck with you deep down. Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

You can't get close to me.

[Ego Wodem]

Oh, they couldn't get close to you?

[Cam Patterson]

No. Hell no.

[Ego Wodem]

But no, they could apologize and get close to you.

[Cam Patterson]

They could apologize.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Ryan Weiss]

We've all been there.

[Cam Patterson]

We've had seasons that have shaken everything. The question is, what remains when the shaking stops? Hi, I'm Gary Valenciano, and on my podcast Unshaken with Gary Vee, I sit down with amazing personalities, and we talk about the seasons that nearly broke them, the lows that carried them to their highs. Listen to Unshaken with Gary Vee on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys, Paul Verze here, and I

[Ego Wodem]

want to talk to you about Paul's

[Cam Patterson]

best podcast, Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.

[Ego Wodem]

I sit week with a special guest and we discuss the absolute best of things Davidson.

[Cam Patterson]

It's that and then there's everything else.

[Ego Wodem]

He would just shout. One line would murder.

[Cam Patterson]

Marie, lunch. Let's talk about the best moments that we had on the road.

[Ego Wodem]

I would love a cocktail. Dude.

[Cam Patterson]

Joker get last row, middle seat on a Southwest Airlines flight.

[Ego Wodem]

Joe, how was your flight?

[Cam Patterson]

It was great.

[Ego Wodem]

The guy at Penn State, we were on the field and the player throws.

[Cam Patterson]

Thought Joe was his former coach. And he hugged him, and he hugged

[Ego Wodem]

him and Joe just went with it.

[Cam Patterson]

The guy goes, what are you doing here, coach?

[Ego Wodem]

And Joe just goes. And you walk in and it is bananas. I mean, it's a feast for the eyes. And I was like, it's like, it's not my thing either, but we're here. When in Rome, top athletes, chefs, musicians, everybody listen to Paul's best podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Emily Oster. I'm an economist and data expert.

[Cam Patterson]

And I'm Perry Wilson. I'm a medical doctor.

[Ego Wodem]

And this is our new podcast, Wellness actually.

[Cam Patterson]

Because you're getting a staggering amount of

[Ego Wodem]

health and wellness information nowadays, and some of it is awesome and some of it is, well, actually, bull. Fortunately, we're both people who know how to read studies, parse data, and can tell you what's worth trying out and what you can safely ignore.

[Cam Patterson]

Each episode, we tackle the health news of the week and then take a

[Ego Wodem]

deeper dive into a misunderstood health and wellness topic, like what's the deal with Peptides? What's the deal with GLP1s? What's the deal with creatine?

[Cam Patterson]

What's the deal with cupping?

[Ego Wodem]

What's the deal with sleep?

[Cam Patterson]

So join us for a weekly dose of sanity. Might actually be just what the doctor

[Ego Wodem]

or the economist ordered. Listen to wellness, actually on the iHeartRadio

[Cam Patterson]

app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ryan Weiss]

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[Ego Wodem]

So are you helpful to young comedians?

[Cam Patterson]

That's why.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

All right.

[Cam Patterson]

I try to be. If anybody see me, like, on the street anywhere and stuff like that, really, I got answers. You got questions? I got answers.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, for sure. Do what's, like, the number one piece of advice you would give to a young comedian.

[Cam Patterson]

And it sound cliche, but stay on stage. It's the main thing. I would say to people, just always be on stage. That's the main thing. Cause, like, it gets to a point where, like, comedy's a thing where, like, you get. What's the best way to say it? It's like it goes bad and you don't want to do it no more or something like that. Or it goes really good, and you go, I'm good at it. You know what I'm saying? It's like, you just gotta stay on stage. And I think the most important thing my dad told me when I first started was just like, hey, man, it's like being even keeled. Like, don't be too happy. Don't be too excited about it. Just stay, like, directly in the middle and just keep going. And so I try to tell people stuff like that.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

Ye.

[Ego Wodem]

But how do you handle bombing? Okay. Better question, actually, I feel like, is like, how did you handle bombing in the beginning? And now Ken Patterson, who is on snl, how do you handle bombing?

[Cam Patterson]

It's kind of the same. I don't like it, but it's a necessary evil. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like. It's just knowing, oh, that just didn't work, or that's not. That didn't. But I never blamed the crowd. I never was. I never liked doing that. Cause it's never their fault.

[Ego Wodem]

I really don't think so either.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Like, if you get up there and are so undeniably funny, I'm like, they'll wake up. It might be a tired crowd. They might have seen 10 people before you, but if you're cold enough, they will laugh.

[Cam Patterson]

They'll figure it out.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

And so that I've never. I've never blamed the crowd, it's never them.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

You know what I'm saying?

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. So did you ever, in the beginning, when you bomb in any way, internalize it and like, oh, I might not be good at this. I might need to go get a regular job like my mom says?

[Cam Patterson]

Nah. When I tried it when I was 19, I did. I didn't do bad.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

It wasn't terrible. Then I didn't do it again till I was 22.

[Ego Wodem]

Shit.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. So I stopped for like.

[Ego Wodem]

So you did you. In that when you quit when you were 19, did you think, like, I'm done with this for real?

[Cam Patterson]

Nah, I just didn't. The embrace was just weird. So I was just like. I just don't know how. I don't know how to. I don't know how to navigate this.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

And then so I kind of just like. I just started doing some other stuff. Just other stuff.

[Ego Wodem]

Well, the other stuff. The other stuff.

[Cam Patterson]

This stuff, you know, kind of stuff. Regular stuff. Stuff like running around that for sure.

[Ego Wodem]

Stuff like that.

[Cam Patterson]

I got it.

[Ego Wodem]

Illegal stuff.

[Cam Patterson]

No, I never said illegal.

[Ego Wodem]

The police don't watch. Watch this podcast.

[Cam Patterson]

I never said illegal.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. What kind of stuff? I mean, you want this, you want that?

[Cam Patterson]

Somebody needed it.

[Ego Wodem]

Are we talking about sneakers at Foot

[Cam Patterson]

Locker or are we talking about somebody needed it? I probably had it, okay? If you wanted it, I could get it. I could have it. I could get it.

[Ego Wodem]

Not me trying to get you to stitch on yourself.

[Cam Patterson]

I mean, you. What kind of stuff, though?

[Ego Wodem]

I want you to tell me a secret. What?

[Cam Patterson]

I didn't have no secret.

[Ego Wodem]

You told me I was lying when I said I didn't have secret. Yeah, you was lying, but you. But no, no, no.

[Cam Patterson]

I tell the truth.

[Ego Wodem]

You have secrets. I can see it in your eyes.

[Cam Patterson]

Okay?

[Ego Wodem]

I can see it in your. You're not gonna tell. All right, whatever. All right. We'll move on. So you were doing stuff?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, I was doing stuff.

[Ego Wodem]

Stuff.

[Ryan Weiss]

Mm.

[Cam Patterson]

Stuff.

[Ego Wodem]

We don't know what kind. Legal? Ill. Legal. In between. Whatever it was, it was.

[Cam Patterson]

I had it. I'm not gonna lie to you. Most time I had it. I wasn't good at getting it off, but I had it, though.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, but you had it. You had it. So then what made you go back at 22?

[Cam Patterson]

I was doing very bad at the stuff.

[Ego Wodem]

At the stuff.

[Cam Patterson]

I wasn't doing good at it.

[Ego Wodem]

Were you getting trouble?

[Cam Patterson]

Nah, I just wasn't. I just.

[Ego Wodem]

You didn't know how to move stuff.

[Cam Patterson]

I wasn't good at moving stuff.

[Ego Wodem]

You weren't good at moving stuff.

[Cam Patterson]

I wasn't really good at moving stuff.

[Ego Wodem]

It wasn't okay.

[Cam Patterson]

This shit wasn't for me.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, yeah. Were you scared about moving stuff?

[Cam Patterson]

I wasn't scared of moving stuff. I just got a heart. I think everybody was around, they had a heart.

[Ego Wodem]

That's what you have to. Cold hearted.

[Cam Patterson]

I'm saying you gotta be cold hearted. I like people.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, I do, I do, I do.

[Cam Patterson]

So it's like, I don't wanna.

[Ego Wodem]

I don't wanna do this. I'm gonna go back to the stage.

[Cam Patterson]

I'm gonna go back to the well. I prayed, though. I prayed. I was like, God, if I can find my passion, yes, I go as high as I can at it. Okay. And then that I got.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. So I was gonna ask you if you. What your spirituality is like.

[Cam Patterson]

So you're a praying man all the time?

[Ego Wodem]

You pray every day, every night. Every night, yeah. What about the mornings? I say thank you when you wake up, like, shit.

[Cam Patterson]

So I get up, I'd be like, hey.

[Ego Wodem]

Oh, shit. Didn't have to go this way.

[Cam Patterson]

I just wanna say I appreciate that. So.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, that's how I talk to him too.

[Ego Wodem]

I mean, you know, that's a friend. Yeah, that's a friend.

[Cam Patterson]

I'm a daughter.

[Ego Wodem]

Which of your parents perhaps introduced spirituality to you?

[Cam Patterson]

Uh, both of them.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

Both of them vary?

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, both of them. Okay. Do you go to church?

[Cam Patterson]

I need to go more.

[Ego Wodem]

You wanna go church?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Where you.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

On Sunday?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

You said what day of the week? Sunday. Oh, really? Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

Oh, okay.

[Ego Wodem]

On Sunday. I haven't been in a while, but we should go to church.

[Cam Patterson]

We should go. Yeah, I'll go.

[Ego Wodem]

You will? Where do you live? Don't say your address on the podcast.

[Cam Patterson]

I'll say the address, but you live now. Listen, it's a lot of. There's so much shit going on in New York. People be like, where you staying? I'd be like, actually, are you.

[Ego Wodem]

Let's. I'm gonna go General Manhattan or Brook Manhattan. You're Manhattan. I got you. Okay. Is this your first time living in New York? For us now, how are you liking New York?

[Cam Patterson]

I like it. It's cool. I can do stand up a lot, so I'm happy.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Are there things you don't like about New York?

[Cam Patterson]

It's fast, but that's cool.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

You know what I'm saying? But the game plan for me in life is to get back to Florida.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. You want to go back to Florida?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, I love Florida.

[Ego Wodem]

Where in Florida?

[Cam Patterson]

Orlando.

[Ego Wodem]

That's where you're from?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. My sister lived in Orlando for a while.

[Cam Patterson]

Did she like it?

[Ego Wodem]

She did. She then moved to Chicago. Opposite weather.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

And then to la. So. Yeah. So you want to go back to Orlando? Is that where all your people are and your community and stuff?

[Cam Patterson]

I'm trying to buy a town.

[Ego Wodem]

You really want to buy? You want to. Do you want it to be named after you?

[Cam Patterson]

Don't matter.

[Ego Wodem]

You don't care. Well, Cam. Easy to please.

[Cam Patterson]

Do it to the camera, you know,

[Ego Wodem]

it's all around me.

[Cam Patterson]

I'm giving me a town. I promise I'm going to have me a town.

[Ego Wodem]

So you're. But you're like, New York is cool. How many? Okay. You like it enough to get it done. What do you love so much about Florida besides your people being there?

[Cam Patterson]

I don't know. It's just home. You just love home.

[Ego Wodem]

Not everybody loves home.

[Cam Patterson]

You know that. I had a good upbringing. Like, I like building people from. You know, Some people don't like home. Cause they. Home was where they got. You know what I'm saying? Beat and other shit. You feel what I'm saying? Bad stuff.

[Ego Wodem]

You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, right. Did you ever get beat?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, for sure. I was bad.

[Ego Wodem]

You were bad.

[Cam Patterson]

I wasn't a good kid.

[Ego Wodem]

You weren't? No. You were getting in trouble in school in a big way. Beyond, like, more than just. He's talking too much.

[Cam Patterson]

Oh, yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

They would say bullying, but, I mean.

[Ego Wodem]

You were bullying, but who could I.

[Cam Patterson]

I'm not a big guy.

[Ego Wodem]

You. But you were bullying, weren't you? Was it true?

[Cam Patterson]

No.

[Ego Wodem]

No.

[Cam Patterson]

Most of it was like, fabricated.

[Ego Wodem]

They were lying on you? Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

One time I got in trouble. One time I got. It's gonna make my mom sound crazy, but she did this. She's not a bad. She's a good person.

[Ego Wodem]

She stopped listening after you shouted her out. She didn't even listen. She's not even listening anymore.

[Cam Patterson]

I loved it. Son, get back. I remember when I was. I was in. I was in like the. The second grade, and they said I spit on somebody.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

I did not spend no bite on what I did. The raspberry.

[Ego Wodem]

What is it?

[Cam Patterson]

I did that. Maybe a little bit of spit.

[Ego Wodem]

See? And you're respectful. Cause you turned away from me.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, for sure. He's a good person.

[Ego Wodem]

He didn't do the raspberry in my direction. This is a good person. Thank you. Okay. All right.

[Cam Patterson]

So I did that. I did the raspberry. And then the kid, he a Bitch. He told the teacher he a bitch.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

For sure, though. Second grade or not, he on the list?

[Ego Wodem]

Is he on the list?

[Cam Patterson]

Oh, for sure.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

I don't know his name, but if I see his face, I knew. Okay, he on the list for sure. So he a bitch, right? So he told teacher can't spit on me. So the teacher told my mom. It's like. You ever play a game of telephone?

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

It's like, where the shit just get escalated? I did a raspberry right when he turned spit. My mama, the lady. The teacher told my mama, my mama said, I'll handle it. That was scary.

[Ego Wodem]

Did you hear her on the phone?

[Cam Patterson]

I heard her.

[Ego Wodem]

You were in, like, the other room.

[Cam Patterson]

I heard her.

[Ego Wodem]

And you could hear, like, okay, she got a call from her teacher.

[Cam Patterson]

This is bad.

[Ego Wodem]

This is bad. And all you heard is, I'll handle it. Like Olivia Pope.

[Cam Patterson]

That was.

[Ego Wodem]

It is handled.

[Cam Patterson]

I'll handle it.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

I get home, I'm spitting on people. I said, I ain't spilling by. I did that, mama.

[Ryan Weiss]

I do.

[Cam Patterson]

I turned away from her, too. I would like that.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

Good kid. My mama hopped the loogie and spit it in my face. And she said, this gonna stop the spitting. And I never.

[Ego Wodem]

You never did a raspberry again. Even now, you're not doing it with your full chest.

[Cam Patterson]

There's no spit coming out.

[Ego Wodem]

Even now, you're not really doing it, and you're turning away and you're not committing it. Really? Oh, wow.

[Ryan Weiss]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Cam, I think you got some stuff.

[Cam Patterson]

What?

[Ego Wodem]

Like, not the stuff you were moving, but stuff like therapy.

[Cam Patterson]

I mean, what you.

[Ego Wodem]

For what? I know what. I'm crazy.

[Cam Patterson]

I'm not saying you crazy. I'm just saying it's funny now, though. And she gonna. You know it's funny. And she gonna be like, that never happened.

[Ego Wodem]

That happened.

[Cam Patterson]

She did that. But I. You know, I never did that.

[Ego Wodem]

But you never did a raspberry. Never again. And raspberries are fun for a child. You know what's so crazy? I had a kid in second grade. His name was Paul. He told my teacher second grade that I pinched him, and I just let it rock. But I didn't pinch him. I took his arm like this to get his attention, and he was like, she pinched me. So he's on my list as well.

[Cam Patterson]

Come on.

[Ego Wodem]

Cause I'm grown, and I remember second grade. Paul told the teacher, I pinched him, and I was kind of like, if you believe that, I actually don't even feel like defending myself. All right? I'M in trouble for pinching him. This is a pinch. Call me crazy. This is a pinch, right? This is not a pinch. It's a grab from the back of the arm. I pinched him anyway. Yeah. He's on my list. I get it.

[Cam Patterson]

I think lists are healthy.

[Ego Wodem]

Lists are. What other kind of lists do you keep?

[Cam Patterson]

That's it.

[Ego Wodem]

You have a gratitude list?

[Cam Patterson]

Nah. If I like you, you gonna know.

[Ego Wodem]

That's it?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. You gonna know if I fuck with you? You know?

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. How do you show people you fuck with them?

[Cam Patterson]

I don't know.

[Ego Wodem]

Just energetically.

[Cam Patterson]

It's energetically. You know, if I fold with you, it's like a.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

Sometimes I fold with you. Like, we locked in. Like, locked in for real? Yeah, it's abuse.

[Ego Wodem]

How so?

[Cam Patterson]

I don't know, like, words and. You know what I'm saying? Like, maybe I might punch in the stomach.

[Ego Wodem]

Oh, you said with my brothers. Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, we locked in for real. It's abuse.

[Ego Wodem]

You feel comfortable? Yeah. Are you same size, bigger or smaller than your brothers?

[Cam Patterson]

Like, my dogs, I'm cool with. Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. I'm thinking like, brother's brother.

[Cam Patterson]

I got one brother, but he's six two.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, gotcha.

[Cam Patterson]

All my siblings are tall.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

I'm the only little one.

[Ego Wodem]

How does that feel?

[Cam Patterson]

I don't like it.

[Ego Wodem]

I thought you might say something. I thought you might say I fuck with it. Short king. How do you feel about the Short King discourse?

[Cam Patterson]

I like that. I like that. We coming up in the world.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

For sure. I appreciate that. I do enjoy that you like being called a straight.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

I mean, yeah, for sure.

[Ego Wodem]

How does that. How does that, like, impact the way you engage with women? I'm assuming you like women?

[Cam Patterson]

Yes.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. So how does that impact the way

[Cam Patterson]

I got a girlfriend and I do podcasts. She said I don't say that enough.

[Ego Wodem]

All the women in your life are mad.

[Cam Patterson]

Who else?

[Ego Wodem]

You need a shout out, Grandma.

[Cam Patterson]

My grandma love me.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

But how you doing, grandma? I love you. Good to see you.

[Ego Wodem]

Come on.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. My grandma happy.

[Ego Wodem]

Any other women? Women you need to.

[Cam Patterson]

I'm trying to think.

[Ego Wodem]

Give a shout to?

[Cam Patterson]

Nah, I think that's the right thing.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. So your girlfriend and your mom. So you have a girlfriend?

[Ryan Weiss]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Why don't you post her on Instagram?

[Cam Patterson]

Cause that's a lot. She don't want that. She don't want that.

[Ego Wodem]

She doesn't want it.

[Cam Patterson]

She thinks she want that.

[Ego Wodem]

She don't want that, but she does want. So she's told you she wants it. And you're telling her she doesn't want

[Cam Patterson]

it, she don't want that.

[Ego Wodem]

It's a lot of wait, so. But you're telling her she doesn't want that. Yeah, but she wants that.

[Cam Patterson]

But she don't. She don't want that.

[Ego Wodem]

She don't want that, but she does want that.

[Cam Patterson]

And then when she don't want it, she gonna be like, I never wanted this. I'm like, what guy? Who the fuck. Who said that? I said that. I knew that.

[Ego Wodem]

How long have y' all been together?

[Cam Patterson]

Like, five years, off and on.

[Ego Wodem]

Five years. Why have you been off? What did you do?

[Cam Patterson]

Me? Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

I know you brought it. I could tell. I could tell. You didn't have to tell. So what did you do?

[Cam Patterson]

Everything. Really?

[Ego Wodem]

Really? Oh, you did everything. You lied?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Ego Wodem]

Cheated.

[Cam Patterson]

I mean, what.

[Ego Wodem]

I can't stand a cheater.

[Cam Patterson]

What you mean.

[Ego Wodem]

What do you mean, what do I mean? I mean exactly what I said.

[Cam Patterson]

But I'm.

[Ego Wodem]

I. Exactly. Verbatim on better now.

[Cam Patterson]

I'm doing good.

[Ego Wodem]

You're doing better. You're in rehab.

[Cam Patterson]

Yes.

[Ego Wodem]

I don't believe you.

[Cam Patterson]

What? What? And it wasn't even, like, cheating for real. It was like.

[Ego Wodem]

What was it?

[Cam Patterson]

Little bit of head.

[Ego Wodem]

Cheating who you were getting or receiving.

[Cam Patterson]

Receiving. That's not cheating. Head don't got no love involved at all.

[Ego Wodem]

That's cheating. Cam. That's cheating.

[Cam Patterson]

Head don't have no involvement.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you think? Okay, what's more intimate? I want you to rank the intimacy here.

[Cam Patterson]

Go ahead.

[Ego Wodem]

It. Sex. Like vaginal penetration.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Head.

[Cam Patterson]

Okay.

[Ego Wodem]

And kissing. Intimacy. What's the most intimate of those three things?

[Cam Patterson]

Most intimate in sex?

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Intercourse. And then second is most. And then head is not intimate.

[Cam Patterson]

You can watch TV and chill. You could be. You could watch TV and vibe. You know what I'm saying? I don't even got to worry about. She got. She go down there doing whatever she doing. I'm. I'm playing a game. No, that's not cheating.

[Ego Wodem]

That is cheating.

[Cam Patterson]

You can get ahead and cook eggs.

[Ego Wodem]

No, you.

[Cam Patterson]

How can that be cheating?

[Ego Wodem]

How can't you cook eggs while getting head?

[Cam Patterson]

I don't know, but if you try,

[Ego Wodem]

you would have to have a cutout in the. You would have to have a cutout underneath the stovetop.

[Cam Patterson]

Maybe you got. You kind of gotta be like this. That's kind of more of the scenario. But you could get it done. It's possible. It's a possible situation.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you say sorry when you've cheated in the past? Oh, yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

We had long talks.

[Ego Wodem]

So you didn't really mean it?

[Cam Patterson]

I meant that.

[Ego Wodem]

That you did mean that.

[Cam Patterson]

I did mean that.

[Ego Wodem]

You just said that. Cuz she's listening.

[Cam Patterson]

No, cuz she mean the word.

[Ego Wodem]

You're in love?

[Cam Patterson]

Yes. She mean the world.

[Ego Wodem]

Who said I love you first? It was so long ago.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, it was a long time ago, but I'm. I'm.

[Ego Wodem]

Wait, we have time, you think?

[Cam Patterson]

Probably her. She probably said it first.

[Ego Wodem]

Probably her. Okay. And what did you say?

[Cam Patterson]

I said likewise, soldier. No, I'm playing. I said I love you too.

[Ego Wodem]

Likewise.

[Cam Patterson]

Likewise, likewise.

[Ego Wodem]

So that's crazy. So five years. Are you going to marry her?

[Cam Patterson]

Yes. Hopefully.

[Ego Wodem]

When you say hopefully, do you think something could potentially go wrong?

[Ryan Weiss]

Nah.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Do you have a proposal plan? Don't say it here, of course. But you have a plan.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. She already told me what not to do, so I know not to do those things.

[Ego Wodem]

Does she want her nails to be done? When does she care about that? You haven't heard this? That some women like are like, I wanna make sure my nails are done when I get proposed to. So. For the pictures.

[Cam Patterson]

Oh, yeah, yeah. She ain't tell me that, bro. That's a good.

[Ego Wodem]

Make sure her nails done. She might not care about it. I'm a person. I don't think I care about that. That. But some women want their nails to be done before you propose. So that when the photo of the

[Cam Patterson]

ring, I'm gonna just do it anyway. When she get a nail diabete, that's when we gonna get done.

[Ego Wodem]

Are you guys long distance? Yeah. Yeah. I'll get off the girl. You want me to get off the girlfriend thing?

[Cam Patterson]

You can do what you want.

[Ego Wodem]

I could do it is my podcast.

[Cam Patterson]

It's your podcast.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm good.

[Cam Patterson]

Do your thing.

[Ego Wodem]

Shit. Okay. Okay. So you guys are long distance.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

How is that for you with work? It's good. Do you think it's better or.

[Cam Patterson]

Well, she a nurse. She like a nurse nurse.

[Ego Wodem]

She has a real job.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Not to say you don't have a real job.

[Cam Patterson]

I mean. Nah, she's. I don't. I mean, we do. I do.

[Ego Wodem]

Like, I get it. No. Cause that's how I feel. I'm like, it's not. It's grown, but it's not grown. Like a nurse. Yeah, a nurse. That's real.

[Cam Patterson]

Somebody like me, somebody will die. She'll be like, well, I'm having Chipotle. She's like, what? Okay, I'm gonna go be a cat now. I guess I'm gonna go be A tree today. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's very different.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. So she's the distance and it works. Cause she's not.

[Cam Patterson]

We've been doing it for a long time. Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

You got it all set up. Do you like being on the road?

[Cam Patterson]

I love it.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. Prefer it to being in one city. Like, no, since that's new.

[Cam Patterson]

I like. Cause I got, like, a schedule now, so that's cool. Before, do I like the road better?

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

You know what I'm saying?

[Ego Wodem]

What did you like about the road?

[Cam Patterson]

It's like, with all my friends, I

[Ego Wodem]

found it hard at times. Yeah. At a certain. I've romanticized the idea. And then when I was actually out, like, oh, I'm shooting something here. And now I'm gonna go here to do a show. And I'm like, this is cool, the idea. When you're younger, for me, you hear it. I'm like, oh, that sounds fun. And then it's not really fun to be living out of a super. I'm not complaining. I'm just saying, like, it's not what I thought.

[Cam Patterson]

You by yourself or you with people?

[Ego Wodem]

By myself a lot of times.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. And I'm with. I spend as much money to bring my dogs with me.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. Do you like alone time at all?

[Cam Patterson]

No. I do, though. I do, though. For like, a week, maybe, at the most.

[Ego Wodem]

Why don't you like alone time?

[Cam Patterson]

I like my people around me. I like people around me.

[Ego Wodem]

I hear that. But what about alone time?

[Cam Patterson]

Alone time is good.

[Ego Wodem]

Yes, I agree. I agree.

[Cam Patterson]

Alone time is great, but you don't

[Ego Wodem]

like it that much. Cause you like your people around you.

[Cam Patterson]

I do. It'll be pointless. It's like, people that really, like, be around me, they be like, it's time to leave Campbell alone.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Oh, you shut down.

[Cam Patterson]

Oh, yeah, I get.

[Ego Wodem]

Oh, what I get or like, what is it? You shut down or you start having an attitude or both.

[Cam Patterson]

Both.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

For nothing, really.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

For no reason. It's like, yeah, we should leave Campbell. We should get some time.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

And then it's like a week go by to be like, where y', all, nigga? Where y' all at?

[Ego Wodem]

And they're like, we left you alone. Cause you had a fucking attitude and

[Cam Patterson]

you was losing it, kid. All right, my apologize.

[Ego Wodem]

How often do you need to rest? Do you feel like. Like, how many times in a year do you need, like, a week off?

[Cam Patterson]

No, I mean for my friends.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. From people.

[Cam Patterson]

Twice.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Nothing crazy.

[Cam Patterson]

Rest, though. Like, it work but that don't stop.

[Ego Wodem]

You don't wanna rest.

[Ryan Weiss]

No, no, no.

[Ego Wodem]

You don't fuck with rest. You know, it's important actually, you sleep. Do you get eight hours?

[Cam Patterson]

I got eight hours today.

[Ego Wodem]

That's why you're on. Do you drink coffee?

[Cam Patterson]

No, but I'm going to today.

[Ego Wodem]

No, don't.

[Cam Patterson]

What is that?

[Ego Wodem]

I'm looking at you and I'm like, no, you got energy, you're good.

[Cam Patterson]

But what is that?

[Ego Wodem]

This is a cappuccino.

[Cam Patterson]

So why can I do it?

[Ego Wodem]

Because do as I say and not as I do. But you got what you do as I say. This is the thing. I don't really even fuck with coffee.

[Cam Patterson]

But you also have energy.

[Ego Wodem]

I do have energy, but I've been down bad for like three days. I was at the Jay Z concert, four hour. I wasn't outside, I was inside. But that really fucked up my way. I love him, but that was not how I expected my night to go. And I didn't expect to be out that late. And then I had an early morning has. It's a trip.

[Cam Patterson]

It all collided. So then you. So but now you back on coffee or you been on coffee?

[Ego Wodem]

I don't really with it. So my listeners, I don't really with coffee like that. But I'll drink it sometimes in a pinch, in a pickle. But I'm glad, cuz if I didn't drink this coffee, I might not be able to keep up with you for sure. You know what I'm saying? I'm not.

[Cam Patterson]

I'm. That I'm that high energy.

[Ego Wodem]

Would you guys say Cam's high energy? You guys can talk?

[Cam Patterson]

Oh, they can talk. Everyone.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, they can talk.

[Cam Patterson]

I know they can talk.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, these are real people.

[Cam Patterson]

I mean, they. Real people. I know. I mean, yeah, I just met them. That my dog right there? Yeah, of course.

[Ego Wodem]

You just met him an hour ago.

[Cam Patterson]

I mean. Yeah, I did met him.

[Ego Wodem]

That's what you told me. Are you lying?

[Cam Patterson]

I'm not gonna lie, y'. All. Can they see him?

[Ego Wodem]

They can't see Cory.

[Cam Patterson]

Okay.

[Ryan Weiss]

For sure.

[Cam Patterson]

I'm gonna describe Cory. Corey's a large white man. Some might say like a seal. Oh, man, I messed up.

[Ego Wodem]

He's got something in him.

[Cam Patterson]

I messed up the theory.

[Ego Wodem]

Cory's got a little something in him.

[Cam Patterson]

We like to play a fun game called what is Cory? And everybody guesses wrong. But Cory's white.

[Ego Wodem]

Corey. Corey. What's your last name? I'm gonna guess.

[Cam Patterson]

You're gonna lie to you.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm gonna guess your ethnicity.

[Cam Patterson]

Spielberg.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, that's a lie. That's a lie. Anyway, okay, I see you keep people like you around.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

I see you like to hang out with people like you.

[Cam Patterson]

Funny Spielberg. I actually found him outside a club at a nightclub in Orlando.

[Ego Wodem]

I don't believe you. I don't actually believe anything you're saying.

[Cam Patterson]

Dave McCameron. I said, hey, bruh, I believe in you.

[Ego Wodem]

This whole podcast. I don't believe anything you're saying to me.

[Cam Patterson]

Why?

[Ego Wodem]

I believe a couple of Corey. Cory, do not get my toes.

[Cam Patterson]

Don't get her toes. Cory. You gotta be really assertive with her.

[Ego Wodem]

You gotta pay for that. Don't get my toes.

[Cam Patterson]

You gotta be really assertive.

[Ego Wodem]

Camera to the listeners and viewers. Cory has a camera.

[Cam Patterson]

He just looking at it with his head like this.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, Cory don't have. Who is this?

[Cam Patterson]

There you say nigga. Hilarious.

[Ego Wodem]

Why you don't think I talk? I'm from Baltimore.

[Cam Patterson]

Nah, I know that. I'm just saying.

[Ego Wodem]

Were you sad I wasn't there?

[Cam Patterson]

Yes.

[Ego Wodem]

Were you actually? I'm fucking around. You're just being nice. I want you to be real with me right now.

[Cam Patterson]

I'm dead ass.

[Ego Wodem]

There you were.

[Cam Patterson]

I was very excited.

[Ego Wodem]

You thought I was gonna be there.

[Cam Patterson]

And then you just. They were like, yeah, she not coming. I said, what do you mean? I needed you.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. Yeah. Are you having fun?

[Cam Patterson]

I do like it. Yes, though.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

Hell yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

I saw your stand up clip talking about they.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, they did not like that.

[Ego Wodem]

They did not. They didn't like it. I was wondering, I said, what's cool on in that building after that clip? I said, they going be mad at that. Did you get a talking to or the vibes? Different.

[Cam Patterson]

Vibes was different for a second.

[Ego Wodem]

For a second.

[Cam Patterson]

You know, I'm real big on like, hey, but at least just tell me right?

[Ego Wodem]

So you don't like when like the vibes are different? You'd rather someone come up to you and be like, we're not with this.

[Cam Patterson]

This is what's happening. Yes, I like that. You rather it happened that happen. And I, I respect it.

[Ego Wodem]

I like that. Yeah. Okay. So when you get upset in a relationship, are you a, we need to talk about this or do your vibes just kind of shift? Shift? Both.

[Cam Patterson]

It depend on what it is.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, it depend on what it is.

[Ego Wodem]

For example, of a time you might be like, we need to talk about

[Cam Patterson]

this when she did something wrong. And then when I did something wrong, I'd be like, vibes are just different. Vibes might be different.

[Ego Wodem]

Cam, do you want kids?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, I want kids. Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Like a gang of them.

[Cam Patterson]

Or like, I say this and people think I'm crazy if I have twins off the top, I'm cool.

[Ego Wodem]

Really.

[Cam Patterson]

I don't have twins. I want five.

[Ego Wodem]

If you don't have twins, you want five. Explain to me the logic here.

[Cam Patterson]

There's no logic there.

[Ego Wodem]

There's no logic. It's giving. There's no logic. I'm trying to make sense of it. Twins, you're done. Five. If not, it needs to be five. And you came up with the number five. Maybe because you're one of five.

[Cam Patterson]

Yes.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. People tend to do that. Be like, I'm one of four. I'm on a four. I thought I wanted four kids.

[Cam Patterson]

And then you don't.

[Ego Wodem]

No. That's crazy. I didn't take care. Yeah. And I said, like that.

[Cam Patterson]

You said it. That was beautiful. You said, like, it was like a. Yeah, whatever. I mean.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. It's just kind of. You don't have to carry kids. If you could carry a child, would you carry a child for my lady? For your lady?

[Cam Patterson]

For sure.

[Ego Wodem]

You would. That's love.

[Cam Patterson]

I love her.

[Ego Wodem]

You really do?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

If you could go on male birth control, that's like a pill, would you do it for your lady?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

You would do it?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, for sure.

[Ego Wodem]

Does that feel like a trick question? A little bit. I saw you, like, kind of comment,

[Cam Patterson]

like, if I could start, like, the. Cause, like, that's like a vasectomy, right?

[Ego Wodem]

You can get a vasectomy.

[Cam Patterson]

Yes, you get.

[Ego Wodem]

But I mean, like, if there was, like, a pill that I take. Yeah. Like the way women do.

[Cam Patterson]

If she didn't want one. Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. Okay. All right. That's. You really love. You love.

[Cam Patterson]

I love. She held me down. Like, she was like. She like. You feel me?

[Ego Wodem]

She would. She was with you, so five years. She was with you when you were broke?

[Cam Patterson]

Well, more than broke.

[Ego Wodem]

In trouble. What's lower than broke?

[Cam Patterson]

What's lower than. Bro, what d. Lo say? I was up.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

I was wet. Yeah. I was in bad shape.

[Ego Wodem]

Really?

[Cam Patterson]

She was on the couch in my daddy house, man. We went through it. We went through a lot, man. I got in trouble, which she caught me doing some shit I wasn't supposed to be doing.

[Ryan Weiss]

No.

[Cam Patterson]

Getting hit and, you know, whatever. Not cheating, but it's not cheating. I understand about that.

[Ego Wodem]

It's not. She caught you getting hit?

[Cam Patterson]

She didn't catch me getting hit.

[Ego Wodem]

She saw some text messages through the grapevine.

[Cam Patterson]

She heard I got hit. Great.

[Ego Wodem]

Yo, I would Hate to hear some shit like that through the grapevine. Okay, go ahead.

[Cam Patterson]

And so she was like, my dad's house, and she had trash bags, all my shit. You feel what I'm saying? And I was standing at my dad's cats at the time. Cause I was living with her.

[Ego Wodem]

You were living with her? So she put you out?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, I'm standing at my dad's couch. Then my sister, she was like, we can kill him. She was off the dribble. First of all, that's my sister.

[Ego Wodem]

Your sister switched up on you.

[Cam Patterson]

We can kill him. Let's kill him. Fuck it. He a bad. Let's kill him. She died. My sister was like, yeah, girl, let's light this shit on fire. First of all, she's a bad bitch.

[Ego Wodem]

Meanwhile, your dad lives there as well. He didn't do shit.

[Cam Patterson]

My dad did nothing.

[Ego Wodem]

He didn't get the head.

[Cam Patterson]

Somebody going, hey, hey, we shouldn't. None of that. None of that.

[Ego Wodem]

Burn my house down.

[Cam Patterson]

She live at a house too?

[Ego Wodem]

Yes, sister, that. She said we could burn the house down.

[Cam Patterson]

She don't care about that.

[Ego Wodem]

So she was ready to kill you on behalf of your girl.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Which is. I do love a woman that rides for a woman. Yeah, I do love that. I have to say. Okay, so you were down bad. She put you out. And then. Okay, what happened?

[Cam Patterson]

I mean, you know, we just got back together and stuff like that. And then I found out, like, I realized at one point in life that I was very dependent on her. Like, it was just like.

[Ego Wodem]

Like.

[Cam Patterson]

Cause I was doing comedy at the time. She took me to every mic, took me to work. You know what I'm saying? Like, I drove her car everywhere. Like, it was just. Everything would go through her. And so we broke up for a second. Cause I had to figure out how to be like a man.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

You know what I'm saying? And then, like, everything started to change. And then when I started to get, like, better and realizing, like, she was so important in my life, then we got back together.

[Ego Wodem]

Is she older than you? Nah, just mature. Did you guys meet in school?

[Cam Patterson]

Mm. Well, she was in college, and I was acting like I was selling weed at that point. I mean, stuff.

[Ego Wodem]

Acting like stuff. Yeah, just stuff. That was the hardest stuff.

[Cam Patterson]

Hmm.

[Ego Wodem]

Exactly. Okay, you gotta read between the lines with Cam Patterson. He's smiling. You have a beautiful smile.

[Cam Patterson]

Thank you.

[Ego Wodem]

Did you ever have braces?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, I did.

[Ego Wodem]

You did? Did you take.

[Cam Patterson]

Did you.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you wear your retainer still?

[Cam Patterson]

Nah. And the bottom one, the forever retainer. You have a butt.

[Ego Wodem]

Can I see?

[Cam Patterson]

I have one. It's gone.

[Ego Wodem]

What happened? Oh, you said gone. Oh, my bad. You ripped it at. Why?

[Cam Patterson]

It broke. And I was just like, I ain't doing this.

[Ego Wodem]

Can I? But your bottom row is still straight.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. I mean, I had good teeth. I had the front two. They would just jump on each other.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

They would jump on each other. When I was younger, my mom was like, would you. Do you want braces? And I was like, nah, I'm good. And then she was like, that wasn't a question.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. It sounded like a question.

[Cam Patterson]

She made it seem like it was

[Ego Wodem]

a question, but it was a statement.

[Cam Patterson]

But she wanted me to be like, I would like braces. She be like, okay, for sure.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

So I wouldn't.

[Ego Wodem]

But you did. How long did you have braces?

[Cam Patterson]

I think, like, four years.

[Ego Wodem]

Four years. Wow. That's a long time.

[Cam Patterson]

I had a lot of teeth, so they took. They took some teeth out.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

And then they. That took time to. For them to go back. You know what I'm saying? The same spot.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Four. Okay, I see.

[Cam Patterson]

All right.

[Ego Wodem]

So I'm not to judge you because

[Cam Patterson]

four years, It's a long time. You had. Did you ever have.

[Ego Wodem]

I did 14 to 16. Two years.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm just saying after two years, you did four.

[Cam Patterson]

I mean, but you probably came up with. You probably eating stuff you weren't supposed to eat.

[Ego Wodem]

I kept. Yeah, I did. I kept up with it. I wasn't eating things you were doing.

[Cam Patterson]

Oh.

[Ego Wodem]

How old were you when I had braces? Yeah. When you got them.

[Cam Patterson]

Probably the same age.

[Ego Wodem]

14.

[Cam Patterson]

14, 18.

[Ego Wodem]

And you weren't keeping up with it at 14? Do you have a picture of you with braces? I'm gonna ask to see it after. If you do.

[Cam Patterson]

I might. Yeah, I might be able to find one.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Wow, Cam. And your hair is beautiful as well. Yeah. What do you do to take care of it?

[Cam Patterson]

Nothing.

[Ego Wodem]

Stop.

[Cam Patterson]

I gotta stop.

[Ego Wodem]

That's condition.

[Cam Patterson]

I gotta start this with me right now. She did everything.

[Ego Wodem]

She did everything.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

That's conditioned, though. It's, like, well conditioned. You have a stylist can't do everything for you.

[Cam Patterson]

I mean, I got good hair. My dad. Part Indian.

[Ego Wodem]

Is he actually. Are you saying he's part Indian hair?

[Cam Patterson]

Oh, he is.

[Ego Wodem]

Oh, really?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Like Native American.

[Cam Patterson]

Yes.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, he got curly hair.

[Ego Wodem]

What percentage? You can't. Everybody's hair is good.

[Cam Patterson]

I mean. Yeah. I mean, yeah, for sure, Cam. Yeah, everybody got their hair, Cam. That's one of the things you can't say, Cam.

[Ego Wodem]

That's one of the things you can't say, Cam.

[Cam Patterson]

That's one. Everybody got good hair. Yeah, say it to the camera. Everybody got good hair. Everybody has amazing.

[Ego Wodem]

Say it like you mean it.

[Cam Patterson]

Everybody here. Good.

[Ego Wodem]

Have you ever been in an acting class?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so say it like you mean it. And action.

[Cam Patterson]

Everybody got good hair.

[Ego Wodem]

There it is. We believe. We believe it. That's the sentiment. What percentage Indian is.

[Cam Patterson]

If I get this wrong, he gonna be very mad.

[Ego Wodem]

I think he'll listen to this whole. He'll listen to this whole episode.

[Cam Patterson]

He listened to everything.

[Ego Wodem]

Oh, he's like your biggest fan.

[Cam Patterson]

Oh, yeah. He'll come to shows and laugh like he never heard the joke and then punch somebody and be like, nigga, you heard. That was great. He listens to everything. Oh, he gonna love this part.

[Ego Wodem]

That's great.

[Cam Patterson]

He be like, I do that. I do that. What I do. I do that. What I.

[Ego Wodem]

He right.

[Cam Patterson]

I listen to all of it and I like it. It's good.

[Ego Wodem]

Oh, what? Aw, that's beautiful. That's beautiful. But you don't know what percentage. What percentage?

[Cam Patterson]

I think my grandma. I think on my grandma. His side.

[Ego Wodem]

So a quarter. He's a quarter?

[Cam Patterson]

Maybe. Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

You don't do math or more.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Have you ever heard that? A quarter.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you know what it means?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. 25%.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

Why are you acting a quarter inch?

[Ego Wodem]

Why the fuck are you acting like.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, no, I'm saying, like, I'm talking.

[Ego Wodem]

You doing the math. If it's just his grand. Are you saying his grandmother is full?

[Cam Patterson]

No, no, no. My grandma.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm sorry. Yeah, his mother. Are you saying his mother is full?

[Cam Patterson]

Maybe making. I should ask these questions.

[Ego Wodem]

Are you close with your grandparents? Parents?

[Cam Patterson]

They passed away when I was younger.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

But my grandma on my mama's side. Yeah, okay. Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Okay. You're close with her?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, that's my daughter.

[Ego Wodem]

Does she. Does she watch your stand up?

[Cam Patterson]

No, but it's. It's. She's the best because I'm sure, like, she'll come to shows. Like, I do shows in Vegas. She love Vegas. People love to gamble. Old people love to gamble.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

And so she'll come to shows and she'll send it back. She can't hear, and she'll. I could be like, granny, did you like it? She be like, I loved it, baby. I loved every. It was. Ooh, they loved you.

[Ego Wodem]

Like, you did a poem up there, baby.

[Cam Patterson]

I'm up there calling everybody a bunch of bitches. And hoes and talking crazy. And she like, baby, I loved it. Baby Cam. She go as you do. That's sweet.

[Ego Wodem]

But you tell you do that in front of her.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

You're just. You. Do you feel like a free person? Like a truly, like, artistically free? Like, you get to say and do whatever you want?

[Cam Patterson]

For the most part, yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

What's the part where you would say, nah, not really.

[Cam Patterson]

Sometimes just trying to be like, you know, just trying to hmm. Get my. Just. I don't know. For the most part, yes. Though I'm trying to find the best way to say it.

[Ego Wodem]

We have time. I really want to hear this because I think it's interesting.

[Cam Patterson]

Trying. The best way to get my most authentic self to everybody is. You know what I'm saying, how I talk and how. You know what I'm saying, Daddy. But just trying to figure that out. That's it.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you read comments and, like, reviews of your work?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Negative comments. How do you engage with them? How do you feel? Honestly?

[Cam Patterson]

I mean, I don't like them. Nobody likes. Of course.

[Ego Wodem]

Right, right.

[Cam Patterson]

Nobody likes them.

[Ego Wodem]

But how do you. How do you navigate that? Like, I don't like this. This doesn't feel good.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you go, they don't know what they're talking about Or. I should take this into account. I should think about this for next time? Or is it trash? You know, how do you.

[Cam Patterson]

Sometimes people hit on, like, a nail on the head and they'll hit somewhere. It's like, oh. So I thought about that anyway.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

You know, I think as a creative, you. Your worst critic anyway. So sometimes they hit something and just be like, oh, yes. I mean, yeah, I need to fix that. I need to find a way to fix that.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

And then sometimes you're like, just nonsense. Where it's just like, just period. Just eight.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

And that's like. Well, I'm just. That's good. Welcome to the list.

[Ego Wodem]

Right? You got a whole list.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

It's a lot of people on the list.

[Cam Patterson]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Ego Wodem]

Who do you look up to comedically?

[Cam Patterson]

Kevin Hart? Dave Chappelle? I like Kat. You did a great job when you impersonated. That was great. That was fine.

[Ego Wodem]

Appreciate you.

[Cam Patterson]

I like John Mulaney a lot. I'm trying to think. I always add John Mulaney. Cause I gotta add a white person to my list.

[Ego Wodem]

I do that sometimes. Not with John, but sometimes I'm like, damn, I just named.

[Cam Patterson]

I just. I only named black.

[Ego Wodem]

It's loud. Because some people are only naming white people Yeah, I think it's allowed. Some people are only saying white people and not even thinking, oh, I should add some. I should add a black person. I should add a Latino person. They're not thinking that. So your favorites can be your favorites. But John Mulaney is cold.

[Cam Patterson]

He's great.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, he's great.

[Cam Patterson]

He's fire.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

And I like Bruce Bruce.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. I remember Bruce Bruce.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, I like Bruce Bruce a lot. Earthquake. Earthquake.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, I just met Earthquake. For real? Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

I ain't mean. I like.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, he's very sweet.

[Cam Patterson]

He's dope.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, that's cool.

[Cam Patterson]

And I want to say this.

[Ego Wodem]

Yes.

[Cam Patterson]

So last time I asked me on podcast, last time I did some podcast, they would just ask me a question, like, who? Like a new person that stand up that you like a lot. And I couldn't think of a name, but it's a dude named Trent. He, like, he from la.

[Ego Wodem]

Why would you bring a question somebody else asked you to my motherfucking podcast?

[Cam Patterson]

Well, because, like, I'm naming people. I'm naming black people.

[Ego Wodem]

I'm just kidding.

[Cam Patterson]

I was gonna give you a answer.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, okay, Go ahead. Go ahead.

[Cam Patterson]

I'll name black people. And I was just like. I was like, I can't think of nobody. And I felt like an asshole.

[Ego Wodem]

So.

[Cam Patterson]

Trent all the time. Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

But it's hard when somebody asks you a question. Like, I have trouble occasionally in interviews when I'm being interviewed and somebody asked me something that I haven't thought about in the recent past. And so my brain, I'm like, wait, sorry, I've been running around all day and you're asking me. It sounds like a simple question, but my head isn't there. So we're shouting out Trent.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, I like Lil Burn Trent.

[Ego Wodem]

Last name?

[Cam Patterson]

I don't know his last name.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, got you. Trent Trent on Instagram.

[Cam Patterson]

Instagram, yes.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you follow Trent?

[Cam Patterson]

I follow buddy.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, so you can go into Cam's following. Do you follow anybody you feel like you wouldn't want people to see you following?

[Cam Patterson]

Um, well, I used to. Then I stopped doing it.

[Ego Wodem]

When did you stop?

[Cam Patterson]

When I first liked pop, I used to follow a bunch of porn stars on Twitter, and then I follow all of them.

[Ego Wodem]

Porn stars on Twitter.

[Cam Patterson]

That's where the best porn is on Twitter. That's where it is. That's where it's at.

[Ego Wodem]

What?

[Cam Patterson]

That's where it's at on Twitter.

[Ego Wodem]

Are they verified? I mean, not everybody's verified, but they were verified back then.

[Cam Patterson]

That way. It is.

[Ego Wodem]

But you unfollowed what made you unfollow?

[Cam Patterson]

It got me.

[Ego Wodem]

It was.

[Cam Patterson]

It was a lot. It was like. It was like a number where it was like, all right, man, calm down. One or two was like, all right, cool, whatever. Like, I was. I was all my Twitter was for.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, so you weren't even really following comedians. It was like, what?

[Cam Patterson]

It was just nobody inspired me at all. It was just that, like, I couldn't open Twitter in public at all.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

It was like a problem. They was like, hey, man, what, are

[Ego Wodem]

you still on Twitter?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

But you don't follow the porn stars anymore. Do you have a fake Twitter account?

[Cam Patterson]

Nah. I tried to make one. They wouldn't let me make one.

[Ego Wodem]

Why?

[Cam Patterson]

It wouldn't let me make one. I couldn't. I tried to make one, and I couldn't follow who I wanted to follow. And I was like, I'm tired of this.

[Ego Wodem]

Oh, and who did you want to follow?

[Cam Patterson]

All the porn stars again.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, great. I thought so. I just wanted to see if you were gonna tell me. I just wanted to see if you were gonna tell me the truth.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, of course. Why would I not be. Why would you.

[Ego Wodem]

Did you lie to me?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, why would I lie to you?

[Ego Wodem]

You've lied to me a few times.

[Cam Patterson]

No, I haven't.

[Ego Wodem]

I would have to listen to this.

[Cam Patterson]

I don't think I've lied to you this whole time.

[Ego Wodem]

No, you know what? You haven't lied. You withheld.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, but that's what.

[Ego Wodem]

You lied by omission.

[Cam Patterson]

No, we are not in the court of law. What was. This is a podcast. What are you. What is this?

[Ego Wodem]

You said you didn't have secrets. You told me you had secrets, and then you said you didn't have secrets. You don't have to tell me any of your secrets on this podcast. That's not what this is for. What qualities of your dad are your favorite? Sounds like the supportiveness is one.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, supportive, very funny, loving. But, I mean, he love all his kids with his whole heart. Like, I mean, to his core. You know what I'm saying? That's, like the main thing of his. Like, his life. His life. I'm just gonna be there as much as I can with my kids. That's his thing, you know what I'm saying? So his supportiveness, how much he love us. What else is great about my family? He. I don't know. He's. He's always happy. Just a very happy. Just a jolly guy.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

You know what I'm saying? I mean, he's that mean. That he's great.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

And my mom is also amazing.

[Ego Wodem]

I was gonna ask. I was gonna set you up. I was gonna assist you on that one. I was gonna. What are your favorite things about your mom? Best qualities she has, in your opinion,

[Cam Patterson]

very quirky and like the best way. Yeah, she's very. And also that she loved me. I'm all she got. So she left me with the whole.

[Ego Wodem]

Not all I got.

[Cam Patterson]

I mean. I mean kid wise.

[Ego Wodem]

You know what I'm saying? Actually, yes.

[Cam Patterson]

You feel me? She one for one.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

I hope it stay that way for a long time.

[Ego Wodem]

Well done, mom.

[Cam Patterson]

And I mean, very, very also very loving person. Very, very sweet, very kind, big heart. You know what I'm saying? That's what I love about my mama.

[Ego Wodem]

Is there anything from your childhood you wish you could have changed?

[Cam Patterson]

No.

[Ego Wodem]

No.

[Cam Patterson]

Oh, I like how I grew up. I grew up. They did a very good job co parenting. They were divorced. They did a great job like co parenting me. And I think both sides of where I'm from, like Orlando, like I'm from Okoya and Pine Hills, which are two. They close, but they not very different places. And I think I love being where I'm from. I like my upbringing.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. When they got divorced, how old were you?

[Cam Patterson]

I was young. I was to about probably like two, three, maybe younger.

[Ego Wodem]

It's like different. My parents got divorced when I was a baby too. And I was like, that's fine.

[Cam Patterson]

It's like, it's whatever. I got two families now.

[Ego Wodem]

It's cool. And if everyone's close too, that's great.

[Cam Patterson]

My daughter said the funniest thing I was telling him. I'd be like, it's funny. Cause like my. They moved like 15 minutes away from each other. He was like, they ain't even try to get. That wasn't even. That's not far.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. They should have just stayed together.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. That's not far at all.

[Ego Wodem]

Right, right, right. Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

Like down the street.

[Ego Wodem]

Would you think that they stayed that close though? Because.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, probably.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

And they would do a thing. They both very stubborn and so they were. There was like a KFC like halfway to my mom house and my dad house. And they wouldn't go either way.

[Ego Wodem]

They wouldn't go past it, like for anything in life.

[Cam Patterson]

The drop off spot for me was the kfc.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. So it was like, I'm not meeting you further than halfway. That's it.

[Cam Patterson]

I'm right here.

[Ego Wodem]

Have you ever asked them why they got divorced? Like what the thing.

[Cam Patterson]

Oh, I could. When I See them there, you could tell they just, like.

[Ego Wodem]

They just not, you know, it was never gonna be. What's so different? Cause you described not two people who are unlike each other. Two people. Yeah, you described two people who are not unlike each other. So what would you say?

[Cam Patterson]

The thing is, I think their qualities are kind of the same, but personality is very different. My dad's, like, very, like. Like me, like, loud and coming into a room. My mom's not quiet, but talkative and just kind of quirky, demure. Would you say what that word mean?

[Ego Wodem]

You know, just. There's a softness. Is there a softness to her presence and. Okay. All right. Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

And my dad, just like a wrecking

[Ego Wodem]

ball of a person, right?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

But it's a good time.

[Cam Patterson]

A good time.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you guys party together, you and your dad?

[Cam Patterson]

Nah, he's 65.

[Ego Wodem]

Oh, does he pop out, though?

[Cam Patterson]

He pop out, though, sometime after. So he be tired. He's 65.

[Ego Wodem]

Right. Okay. So after all that laughing at your shows, he's like, I'm going back to

[Cam Patterson]

the Good Night song out here. It was good. I liked it.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you have a business manager?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Cause you. I asked this because finance wise, do you. I feel like standups make a nice penny. Do you feel like you listen and Defer to your 100%?

[Cam Patterson]

They make the. Oh, my. Businessmen. They're amazing. They're great. And whatever they say, like, we're doing it. At one point, it was my dad, and it was very. It was terrible. He was the worst ever. It wasn't even, like, why was he

[Ego Wodem]

so bad at that?

[Cam Patterson]

I didn't even have, like, no choice. And he was like, I got it. I figured out I know what we're doing. I know what's going on. And the tax attendant, he was like, oh, we're fucked, son.

[Ego Wodem]

We owe the ira. Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

Hey, we need help. I'm like, I said that. Well, we need it now for real now. We really need it. Cause I didn't even even know. That's a lot of shit, boy. Yeah, there's a lot here. And why did he eat. Whoa, son, you did something.

[Ego Wodem]

What?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. Hey, that was terrible.

[Ego Wodem]

Oh, man.

[Cam Patterson]

I told my dad one day, I said, hey, Pas, I'm gonna get a car. He say, we don't buy regular. We buy cash cars, boy.

[Ego Wodem]

Not cash cars immediately. You know, they depreciate the second you drive them off the lot.

[Cam Patterson]

They all blew up.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, okay.

[Cam Patterson]

I bought four of them. All of them blew up. I gave one to my dog. It blew up. When I gave it to her.

[Ego Wodem]

What? How?

[Cam Patterson]

It blew up.

[Ego Wodem]

What do you mean? What kind of cars are these? What do you think?

[Cam Patterson]

What do you mean? How. How do things explode? Pow. Explosion. I've never.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay, here's the thing. I've had a few cars. Never blown up. So what was wrong with the car that it blew up?

[Cam Patterson]

Everything.

[Ego Wodem]

What kind of cars were these?

[Cam Patterson]

I had a 2003 Acra. I had a.

[Ego Wodem]

What year was it when you had that?

[Cam Patterson]

Oh, the year I had it.

[Ego Wodem]

Yes, the year you had it.

[Cam Patterson]

Oh, 20, 25. Okay.

[Ego Wodem]

All right.

[Cam Patterson]

I bought it for $3,000. I was very excited. My first car I bought myself.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

Also, by the way, I could have got something brand new.

[Ego Wodem]

Why did you go with the old ass?

[Cam Patterson]

Cause my dad said we don't cash.

[Ego Wodem]

I was always on the road, too. Okay. So. All right, so then that one blew up.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

And then the next car you got.

[Cam Patterson]

Then I got a 2014 Infiniti.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. That didn't blow up. But we don't know yet.

[Ego Wodem]

You still have it?

[Cam Patterson]

I gave it to my other dog. And we don't know. We don't know yet.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. He's still alive, though.

[Cam Patterson]

He here.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

He round. All right. All right. He round.

[Ego Wodem]

You would hate for something to happen to your friend in the car you gave him.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. And also, it's like, I mean, what can I do? I tried to help you out. Maybe cars wouldn't afford you.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. Maybe you weren't meant to. Maybe you're supposed to be on the bus.

[Cam Patterson]

If you give somebody something and the thing you gave them, like, a car, and they die in that car. Well, maybe they shouldn't have had one, and they didn't have one for a reason.

[Ego Wodem]

You don't feel any guilt?

[Cam Patterson]

I feel bad for sure.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. I feel all right. Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

I would, like. I'd be like, you know, maybe it wasn't.

[Ego Wodem]

You have two more cars. What's the other two?

[Cam Patterson]

And then. Okay, one more. I bought a 96 Impala.

[Ego Wodem]

96 Impala. And the year was 2000.

[Cam Patterson]

But that's like a dream car. But then my dog put the wrong gas in it, and then the engine

[Ego Wodem]

said, what kind of gas did he put in it?

[Cam Patterson]

My homeboy Joel is stupid. Stupid.

[Ego Wodem]

What did he.

[Cam Patterson]

He just. He's just a dumb person.

[Ego Wodem]

What did he. What kind of gas? Because it take, like, you could go regular, the mid or the premium, and take the diesel.

[Cam Patterson]

It take good gas.

[Ego Wodem]

Good gas. Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

Premium.

[Ego Wodem]

And he put regular.

[Cam Patterson]

Put regular in the car, like, hey, bro, come on. Bro. And the car just petered out. Damn.

[Ego Wodem]

Rest in peace.

[Cam Patterson]

And I don't have a car now.

[Ego Wodem]

You don't have. You don't.

[Cam Patterson]

You want to say shout out to Joe?

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, shout out to Joe.

[Cam Patterson]

I'mma say that, Joel. I'mma say Joe Davis.

[Ego Wodem]

A. Oh, his last name, too. Oh, damn.

[Cam Patterson]

That guy. Nah, that. I'm a dog. I love.

[Ego Wodem]

You love him. You love your people. Okay. I want to play a game with you.

[Cam Patterson]

Okay.

[Ego Wodem]

It's called thanks. No, thanks. Okay. And all the premise is, would you be saying thanks or no thanks if you received the following gifts? First thing, A diamond encrusted fedora.

[Cam Patterson]

Thanks.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

I could wear it.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

It's like a hat.

[Ego Wodem]

It's an actual hat.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. For sure. It's gonna be heavy, but yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. I'll take that fist full of condoms.

[Cam Patterson]

Thank you, but no thanks. Cause I got a lady and I love her.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Don't get in trouble, Kim.

[Cam Patterson]

No.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Never. Woodworking classes.

[Cam Patterson]

Thanks.

[Ego Wodem]

Thanks. Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

I'll do something new.

[Ego Wodem]

All right.

[Cam Patterson]

For sure.

[Ego Wodem]

Are you handy at all?

[Cam Patterson]

Nah, I get that from my dad.

[Ego Wodem]

Not being handy.

[Cam Patterson]

Not handy at all.

[Ego Wodem]

But he sounds like the type who would attempt to be handy.

[Ryan Weiss]

No.

[Ego Wodem]

He doesn't even attempt it.

[Cam Patterson]

Hell no.

[Ego Wodem]

Why did he attempt finances when that wasn't his forte? What made him attempt finances?

[Cam Patterson]

It blows. It blow my mind, too.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. You don't know. What does he do for work?

[Cam Patterson]

He was. He was a contractor.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, I think so.

[Ego Wodem]

He's not handy, but he was a contractor.

[Cam Patterson]

Like. Oh, he's like blueprints and shit. Like, what is that?

[Ego Wodem]

Architect?

[Cam Patterson]

Yes.

[Ego Wodem]

Engineer?

[Cam Patterson]

Yes. Architect.

[Ego Wodem]

Architect.

[Cam Patterson]

Okay, okay.

[Ego Wodem]

But. Okay, so he's like, I can draw the thing, but I'm not gonna do it.

[Cam Patterson]

I'm not gonna go do that.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Got it.

[Cam Patterson]

Get somebody to do it.

[Ego Wodem]

All right, good. But he. Not with the finances. Not until you your shit up. All right. Phone charger.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Ego Wodem]

Thanks.

[Cam Patterson]

Thanks.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. No, no, no, you can say. You can say. No, you can say thank you. I like the proper. No, no, no. I was. I was just processing that. I'm like. Okay. Someone give you a phone chart? Sure. 15. Gift card to the nicest restaurant in town.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Ego Wodem]

All right.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

You're a gratitude man.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. Why would I say no to that?

[Ego Wodem]

$15 to the night. You can't really get an appetizer problem.

[Cam Patterson]

You take $15 off.

[Ego Wodem]

That's true. Are you big on saving money?

[Cam Patterson]

I should be better at it.

[Ego Wodem]

What do you. What's the last dumb thing you spent on. Besides the cars that rest in peace. To the cars.

[Cam Patterson]

Not really.

[Ego Wodem]

Nothing. You don't spend money on anything dumb.

[Cam Patterson]

I think I spend a lot of money. My money manager be like, bro, you dumb. You don't.

[Ego Wodem]

You don't.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah. Nah.

[Ego Wodem]

What's the thing when you're spending where you're like, I don't think I should be. Even though he's telling you you're not your business manager. I like cologne. Cologne.

[Cam Patterson]

I like cologne.

[Ego Wodem]

What do you wear?

[Cam Patterson]

And I know I'm saying that I didn't put nothing on today. I'm mad about it.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you have deodorant on?

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, I got deodorant. I did do that.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah. Great.

[Cam Patterson]

I did do that.

[Ego Wodem]

Great, great, great.

[Cam Patterson]

If you got to ask, though, that's a scary question. I didn't ask because I always say, I don't know.

[Ego Wodem]

It's one thing to forget cologne. It's another thing to forget deodorant. Okay. What. What cologne?

[Cam Patterson]

I like Bond number nine a lot.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

I got a lot of creed. I just. You know, it's funny. I bought all the dispensable cologne. I just bought this Polo cologne that I like a lot. Yeah, they were like $100.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. And what is it?

[Cam Patterson]

Polo, like 67. I don't gatekeep. You.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, you don't gatekeep. I wanna ask you what you do with your skin. Cause your skin is glowing. Do you get facials?

[Cam Patterson]

Nothing.

[Ego Wodem]

You don't do anything.

[Cam Patterson]

I told Linda that one time, and she was like, next time, light on my face.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, because do you know the things women do to try to get the skin you have? You don't wear sunscreen.

[Cam Patterson]

No.

[Ego Wodem]

You should.

[Cam Patterson]

No.

[Ego Wodem]

Help you age slower.

[Cam Patterson]

I'll be all right. I wore it one time at a football camp in Florida and I started sweating white, and they called me a bunch of names, and I never put it on again.

[Ego Wodem]

What kind of names? Just know.

[Cam Patterson]

They on the list.

[Ego Wodem]

All right. They on the list. Okay, Kim. All right, we have a question for you from our last guest.

[Cam Patterson]

Yes.

[Ego Wodem]

This segment's called Thank U. Next, so from Caleb Herron. Caleb wants to know what's. Yeah, you know.

[Cam Patterson]

I know, but I don't know for real. But I like. But yeah. He good?

[Ego Wodem]

He's great. I love Caleb. What's something you were wrong about recently?

[Cam Patterson]

Nothing.

[Ego Wodem]

Stop. Be for real. I'm not letting you go till you tell me.

[Cam Patterson]

I was never wrong about nothing.

[Ego Wodem]

What's something you were sorry about recently? You said sorry for. Cause your mom said you say sorry a lot. Too much.

[Cam Patterson]

Y' all was late some while, I think. Yeah, sorry. I don't like being late. Places.

[Ego Wodem]

You're. Are you very punctual?

[Cam Patterson]

I try to be.

[Ego Wodem]

Are you a early person? Like where you get to spots before?

[Cam Patterson]

I try to be.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

I try to be there at least 30 minutes early.

[Ego Wodem]

30? Yeah, 30 minutes early.

[Cam Patterson]

But for the most. Most times, like 15. If I get there right on time, I get all like that.

[Ego Wodem]

You don't like. So you're like a on time is late person to you. That's late.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Wow. Beautiful.

[Cam Patterson]

I try to be okay. Sometimes I. Sometimes I up.

[Ego Wodem]

Sometimes sometimes I up. Not recently, though.

[Cam Patterson]

Nah. That's why I said sorry. But I'm trying to think about what I was wrong about. Oh, I did. I did OO single podcast and it was about soccer, and I didn't know nothing about soccer. And I was like, I know everything about soccer.

[Ego Wodem]

Of course you said, you know everything about soccer. And then the minute you got into. Yeah.

[Cam Patterson]

So, like, how you feel about the World Cup? And I'm like, I ain't seen that game. I ain't seen a game. Killer.

[Ego Wodem]

What's his. Why did you say you know everything?

[Cam Patterson]

I just wanted to see Child so single. I'm a big fan of his beefing at one point, but I wanted to talk to her. So I was like, yeah, I could do that. Of course.

[Ego Wodem]

So you. Okay, all right.

[Cam Patterson]

Of course I know everything about it.

[Ego Wodem]

You. You apologized to them?

[Cam Patterson]

Well, no, I was. I was there. My presence was good. You feel me? I was. I was in the building. You feel me? So it was. It was still cool.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay. Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

That's what I was wrong about.

[Ego Wodem]

You were wrong about that?

[Cam Patterson]

Yes.

[Ego Wodem]

What's the question you want to ask our next guest?

[Cam Patterson]

Who is your favorite rapper and why is it Rod Wave?

[Ego Wodem]

That's your favorite rapper of all time? Of all time.

[Ryan Weiss]

Yeah.

[Ego Wodem]

Have you ever heard Jay Z?

[Cam Patterson]

He great.

[Ego Wodem]

And you would say.

[Cam Patterson]

My dog Ja would say that. My dog Ja. It's Jay Z.

[Ego Wodem]

It's Jay Z. Yeah, for sure.

[Cam Patterson]

To you, but it's Jay Z. Yeah, Mostells for sure.

[Ego Wodem]

Yeah, for sure. It's Rod Wave, my old trainer. I had a trainer on us app. We got like a year free on this fitness app. And my trainer Jose, he told me Rod Wave was his favorite. But he's your age also.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, for my generation. But I would say Rod Wave says a lot of things Jay Z has said.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

And then he'll say that. And then I'd be Like my dog daughter be like, but that's Jay Z. And I'd be like, well, no, it's Rod Wave.

[Ego Wodem]

Do you listen to Jay Z?

[Cam Patterson]

I like Jay Z. I like him a lot.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

I'm a big fan of Jay Z.

[Ego Wodem]

Okay.

[Cam Patterson]

Yeah, but he not better than Rod Wave than me.

[Ego Wodem]

You need to stop. Tell me. We gotta send you home. Bye, Cam Patterson. I'm kicking him out. The slander. Bye.

[Cam Patterson]

I love Raweed.

[Ego Wodem]

Thank you, Cam.

[Cam Patterson]

Thank you.

[Ego Wodem]

Thinkstad is a production of Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeart podcast. I'm your host, Ego Wodem. Our producer is Kevin Bartelt, and our executive producer is Matt Apodaca. Can superstars even exist the way they used to? 2016 was sort of that last era of monoculture where we still consume things in community. Everybody wanted to be Beyonce at that point. Ugh, I don't think we'll ever see another Rihanna. What does it mean to be black and eat in America? You will never make me feel bad for being a black girl, for being

[Cam Patterson]

a black American girl ever.

[Ego Wodem]

From music to food to the conversations shaping black culture, right now, therapy for black girls is bringing it all to the mic. Listen to therapy for black Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Podcast.

[Ryan Weiss]

Hello, my love. I'm Ryan Weiss, and For the past 15 years, I've been an emotional intelligence coach and a spiritual guide. And I'm sharing with you my new podcast, Waking up with Ryan. Waking up with Ryan is a daily audio video podcast here to help you connect with yourself before the noise of the day takes over. So let's start our days together with a moment of calm that's just for you. Listen to Waking up with ryan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Cam Patterson]

Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This season on my podcast, here's the thing, I talk to composer Mark Shaiman. It's about the hang. It's the pleasure of hanging out with the people that you're with. You know, Rob and I was always a great hang. And director Morgan Neville.

[Ego Wodem]

Film school teaches you all the wrong things about making documentary. What do you want to say?

[Cam Patterson]

Documentary is all about your ear. What do you hear?

[Ego Wodem]

I feel like my job is listening really, really hard.

[Cam Patterson]

Listen to here's the thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It just came out. Jeremy, what did you just do? You just set yourself up for failure. I've never heard you tell this story.

[Ego Wodem]

I've never told this story.

[Cam Patterson]

This must have been tucked deep, deep in the Jeremy Lin file. My name is Mc Gin. Excited to tell you about Laugh but not Least. I'll be chatting with guests from all walks of life about the power of humor when it comes to facing difficult times. These will be conversations that remind us all life is hard. Laugh harder. Listen and laugh but not least with McGen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ego Wodem]

This is an I heart podcast.

[Cam Patterson]

Guaranteed human.