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Adam
You're listening to Wednesday's episode of the Archers from BBC Radio 4. Do we know what time Brian's flight gets in tomorrow?
Rory
No, why? He's thinking of meeting him at the airport.
Adam
Yeah, with a sign saying, what the hell are you playing at?
Rory
That's a great idea. Where's he flying from?
Adam
Faro, presumably.
Rory
I could look it up. I mean, how many flights can there be from Faro in October?
Adam
I've no idea. Have you heard from him at all?
Rory
No. Nothing.
Adam
Yeah, me neither.
David
Oh.
Rory
Oh.
Adam
What?
Rory
Oh, this is brilliant. This is brilliant.
Adam
What's brilliant?
Rory
I've just had an email off the Castle.
Adam
What castle?
Rory
What do you mean, what castle? The castle. The Scottish castle where we're all going on holiday and they're offering us a massive discount.
Adam
Really?
Rory
If we can go in three and a half weeks.
Adam
Three and a half weeks from now?
David
Yeah.
Rory
Which is great because 2027 is ridiculously far away and this is so soon.
Adam
Yeah, it's way too soon. And it's November and all the kids will be in school.
David
Oh.
Rory
Oh, come on, Adam, this is really exciting. I need you to be on board.
Adam
Well, I need you on board with the fact that I've got a six year old kid who's already pretty reluctant to go to school and would have used a sprained wrist to get out of the rest of this week if he could. I hardly need to give him the idea that it's Cool to take a week out if someone offers you a castle.
Rory
What, so that's it? Just like that?
Adam
Sorry, yeah.
Rory
And what about everyone else?
Adam
Well, anyone with kids is going to feel the same.
Rory
You don't know that.
Adam
I do, because we went through all this when we were trying to work it all out in the beginning.
Rory
Well, I think we have to at least put it to the vote.
Adam
Put it to the vote?
Rory
Yeah, of course. I can't just turn this down without everyone else's input, can I?
Adam
We are talking about Scotland here. It'll be absolutely freezing, there's underfloor heating everywhere, but it's still a castle.
Rory
Oh, could you not just be a bit more wild and free for once?
Adam
Oh, forgive me for not being as wild and free as you are, Rory.
Rory
Well, whatever you think, we have to ask everyone else before we go and turn it down, don't we?
Adam
Do we, though?
Rory
Yes. I mean, this is a democracy, Adam, not a dictatorship.
Adam
Right.
Esme
How are you doing, David?
David
Oh, yeah, good, thanks, Esme. How are you?
Esme
Yeah, I'm getting there. I'm getting there with the funeral planning, if nothing else.
David
Well, that's good.
Esme
I still haven't got into Dad's computer, so that's stressing me out.
David
Can't you just take it to someone techie?
Esme
I'm supposed to be someone techie, but, yeah, I might have to.
David
Listen, I'm afraid I might need to get Alistair to look at one of the cows.
Esme
Really?
David
But I know that money is a concern.
Esme
Yeah, well, yeah, it is.
David
How about. How about ask him to drop by when he can? You know, maybe unofficially.
Esme
Can he do that?
David
Well, I'll ask him.
Esme
Thank you, David.
David
So, have you got a sense of the finances now?
Esme
Kind of. It's quite tricky to work it out.
David
Sure.
Esme
I mean, the thing I desperately need to find is his will. And if it's not on his laptop, then I don't know where it is or what I'm supposed to do. And if I can't find his will, then I can't apply for probate. It's all a bit mad.
David
Look, I could stop for a cuppa now and try and give you a hand if you like.
Esme
Oh, no, no, it's fine, David. I don't want to keep you.
David
Oh, it's okay. I don't mind. I'll just finish clearing the yard and I'll come in.
Esme
Thank you. You're so good, you are. I'll get the kettle on.
David
Right.
Kate
Hi, Alice. It's Kate.
Alice
I know.
Kate
Have you seen Rory's Message about the holiday on the group chat.
Alice
Yes, I have. Yeah.
Kate
Well, what do you think? It's exciting, isn't it?
Alice
Exciting?
Adam
Yes.
Kate
Because 2027 was so far away.
Alice
Kate, I'm not taking Martha out of school.
Kate
Oh, not even for this one time? She's only in reception. All they do is play with sand and sing songs. Anyway, that's not all they do at all.
Alice
They do literacy, they do maths, they form key relationships. And it's not easy for Martha. She struggles, so I'm not making it any harder for her, but she seems.
Kate
To be doing great. She loves school. She's full of it when she talks to me. I think you need to relax, Alice.
Alice
Well, I can't. I just can't.
Kate
Also, what about Phoebe? Well, it's perfect for Phoebe because she lives in Scotland, but she'll be just.
Alice
About to give birth.
Kate
The baby could be born in the castle. Imagine that.
Alice
Yeah, I can imagine that. It sounds like a nightmare.
Kate
She could call the baby Macbeth. Oh, no, not Macbeth, because he was awful. Macduff.
Alice
Wasn't Macduff the one whose family were all murdered?
Kate
Oh, was he?
Alice
Oh, Kate, sometimes I think you're proper crazy.
Kate
Oh, I was only joking. Look, shall we talk about this more later?
Alice
Later?
Kate
Yeah, you're all coming to mine for dinner. You and Rory and Adam. It's perfect.
Alice
Is that tonight?
Kate
Did you forget?
Alice
No, I just. I thought. I thought that was tomorrow.
Kate
We said Wednesday.
Alice
No, we said Thursday.
Kate
No, we definitely said Wednesday because Kirsty's out for the evening, I've got a lovely big kitchen rather than that pokey galley at Dad's, and I'm cooking up a storm. It's bliss. I'll see you at seven.
Alice
Okay?
Kate
No, no, no, no. You are not allowed to back out. I've already started cooking and I'm really excited about the four of us hanging out.
Alice
Okay? Okay, fine. But I'm not going to change my mind about this holiday.
Esme
Come on in.
Rory
Thanks.
David
Oh, well, this looks a lot more organised than last time.
Esme
Yeah, don't be deceived.
David
Well, the kitchen's definitely a hell of a lot cleaner.
Esme
It was so dirty, wasn't it? I really, really scrubbed it, like for two days. And then I felt awful that I didn't do this when dad was alive.
David
Would he have let you?
Esme
No.
David
Well, that's probably why you didn't do it.
Esme
Maybe. I mean, I did beg him to get a cleaner, but there was a.
David
Fat chance of that.
Esme
He practically spat on the ground cleaner.
David
I can imagine.
Esme
Plus, of course, he didn't have the money, did he? If you're behind on your feed bill, you're not gonna get a cleaner.
David
No.
Esme
Did Josh tell you that I cried the other day?
David
No. No, he didn't.
Esme
That was nice of him. I really, really cried. I was so embarrassed. But he was brilliant. Like, really not phased.
David
Well, that's good.
Esme
He's a lovely person, isn't he, Josh?
Kate
Yeah.
Esme
You sound surprised.
David
Sorry. No, no, he is lovely. Of course he is. He's just not always. Well, obviously.
Adam
Lovely.
Esme
Well, I must have got him on a good day.
David
Yeah, you must have.
Kate
I've made dal rice, chapatis, sagaloo and a cauliflower bhaji. And there's papadoms with chutney and mint sauce. Homemade mint sauce.
Alice
Oh, we've gone to town.
Adam
Yeah. It smells amazing.
Rory
It really does.
Kate
Well, this is special, isn't it? Us four together. It doesn't happen often, actually. It's quite a good chance to meet up without Dad. I mean, I love dad, obviously I love dad, but sometimes you just want to be able to talk fast, freely, you know?
Esme
Yeah.
Kate
How's Zander's arm? Adam?
Adam
Oh, his wrist. Yeah, it's fine, thanks, Kate. It's absolutely fine.
Alice
Oh, poor Xander. It's so heart stopping when you get a call like that from school or nursery.
David
I know.
Adam
Nightmare.
Rory
Oh, Lillian's just replied to the holiday question.
Kate
What does she say?
Rory
Her and Justin are up for it.
Alice
If everyone else is, but everyone else isn't.
Adam
Have Tom and Natasha said anything?
Rory
Yeah, they're up for it too.
Alice
It's okay for them because the twins haven't started school.
Adam
Pat and Tony say they might struggle to find cover, but it's doable in theory.
Rory
Okay, so Pat and Tony and Lillian are definite? Yes, that.
Adam
Well, I wouldn't say that.
Rory
Well, you're not saying that.
Kate
They're saying that.
Alice
No, they're not. You need to check with them. That's the thing about a group chat. Sometimes things get lost.
Kate
I mean, obviously Nolitando and Cico won't be able to make it in three and a half weeks time, but then there's no guarantee they could make it in two years time either.
Rory
Exactly. I mean, who knows where we'll all be in two years?
Alice
You know what time is like. It comes around so fast, it'll be.
Adam
2027 before we know it.
Kate
But Rory's point still stands that we don't know what the future holds.
Rory
Carpe diem and all that.
Kate
That always makes me think of fish of the day.
Rory
Me too.
Kate
That's so funny.
Adam
Well, we're not going to resolve this tonight, are we?
Alice
No, no chance.
Rory
I mean, we could.
Kate
Dad hasn't said anything, has he?
Adam
He's not looking at his phone while he's away.
Kate
Oh, I know. It's fantastic. Fantastic. I'm so impressed that he's actually relaxing for once.
Adam
Oh, yeah.
Alice
What?
Adam
Nothing.
Kate
No, what is it?
Rory
Dad's kind of promised the management of Home Farm to both me and Alice on the quiet.
Kate
But I thought Adam and Rory were like officially in charge now together.
Rory
Yeah, we are.
Alice
But I was really disappointed to have the news just sprung on me with zero consultation.
Rory
I still don't understand why you didn't just say something.
Adam
Also, can I make the point that in the current situation we're not equal partners. Rory is an apprentice with a few weeks experience. So if anyone is being promised the top job long term, then it should be me.
Rory
Yeah, but I do think when I'm trained up, I could do a really amazing job.
Esme
Rory.
Ryan Seacrest
What?
Rory
I do. Sorry, but I do.
Adam
Of course you do. Of course you do. Because one thing you don't lack is confidence.
Kate
But actually, really, when you think about it, why should any of you be promised the top job?
Adam
What do you mean?
Kate
Well, what about me? You? Yes.
Alice
Well, you're not a farmer, Kate.
Kate
Neither are you, Alice. You're the manager of a stables.
Alice
But I have a background in farming.
Rory
Whereas Kate, you've never been remotely interested.
Kate
But I'm very interested in plants and herbs and their healing nature.
Adam
Yeah, but that's not the same as farming, is it?
Kate
I didn't say it was. But the point is that if dad is talking to all three of you about this stuff, then he should be talking to me too.
Adam
Well, maybe Kate's got a point.
Kate
Oh, maybe Kate's got a point.
Adam
I was trying to be supportive.
Alice
Sorry. Maybe we should just eat.
Kate
Yeah, I mean, the food's ready. Great.
Adam
We could try and talk about other stuff for a bit.
Kate
Yeah, okay.
Alice
Okay, sure.
Adam
Right, have we got plates?
Kate
Yes, there's plates in the oven. I warmed them like a grown up.
Adam
Shall I get them out?
Kate
Yes, please. What time does Dad's flight get in tomorrow?
Adam
We don't know.
Kate
I think I need to talk to him.
Adam
Yeah, well, you'll have to join the back of a very long queue.
Esme
If only I could just sell the cows today or tomorrow.
David
Yeah, that would solve a lot of your problems, wouldn't it?
Esme
I know it's not that simple, but feeding them is costing so much and you're having to milk them twice a day. And I mean, I hope I don't sound awful, but you look absolutely knackered.
David
Yeah, I'm pretty tired.
Esme
Would you want to buy them if you could? Because that's a solution, isn't it? I mean, that's a great solution, actually. Unless you don't want them. But I could do you a great deal mates rates. Mates rates? For cows.
David
Okay, slow down, slow down.
Esme
Hold my horses.
David
Yeah, exactly. You can't afford mates rates. You need to get the best price you can get. And I'm not currently in the market for more cows.
Esme
Shame.
David
You know, it might be easier to think clearly long term when you've got the funeral out of the way, but.
Esme
I'm gonna have to put that on a credit card. The entire funeral?
David
Oh, Esme.
Esme
I mean, maybe he's got some money stashed away somewhere, but it doesn't look like it from the state of things. I think the moral of the story is.
Rory
What?
Esme
Don't become a farmer because you might not be able to pay for your own funeral.
David
Oh, that's bleak.
Esme
I know. I didn't mean it. I'm sure you'll be fine, David. You seem very sensible.
David
Don't know about that. But I can probably at a push, afford my own funeral.
Esme
Well, there you go then. You're a success story.
David
Yeah, but I'm not a tenant farmer, so I'm in a completely different boat.
Esme
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm glad. I'm glad you're not in this one, cuz I'm really worried that this boat might be sinking.
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Podcast: The Archers (BBC Radio 4)
Episode: 22/10/2025
Original Air Date: October 22, 2025
Setting: Contemporary rural drama
This episode of The Archers dives into family tensions and practical dilemmas, set against the backdrop of rural life. Central to the episode is the potential for a much-anticipated family holiday at a Scottish castle, with various family members expressing both excitement and reservations. Alongside, Esme faces the emotional and financial challenges of funeral planning and farm succession after her father's death. The episode brings together family members in both light-hearted banter and honest conversations about responsibility, finances, and interpersonal dynamics.
Alice: "I'm not taking Martha out of school."
Kate: "Oh, not even for this one time? She's only in reception. All they do is play with sand and sing songs." (05:19–05:21)
Esme: "Don't become a farmer because you might not be able to pay for your own funeral."
David: "Oh, that's bleak." (13:18–13:22)
| Timestamp | Segment | Key Participants | |-----------|-----------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------| | 01:08 | Start of episode content (post-ads/intro) | Adam, Rory | | 02:01 | Rory reveals castle holiday offer | Adam, Rory, David | | 03:10 | Vote/democracy discussion | Adam, Rory | | 03:32 | Esme’s funeral and financial woes | Esme, David | | 05:03 | Alice and Kate debate the holiday | Kate, Alice | | 06:01 | Kate jokes about Phoebe's baby & Shakespeare names | Kate, Alice | | 08:13 | Family dinner, power dynamics, discussion | Kate, Adam, Alice, Rory | | 10:09 | Succession: father’s promises/stirring sibling drama | Rory, Adam, Alice, Kate | | 11:58 | Esme considers selling cows, David advises patience | Esme, David | | 13:18 | Esme’s bleak reflection on farming and funerals | Esme, David |
Esme (on farming): "You might not be able to pay for your own funeral." [13:18]
Kate (on castle baby): "She could call the baby Macbeth. Oh, no, not Macbeth, because he was awful. Macduff." [06:01]
Adam (on succession): "In the current situation, we're not equal partners... So if anyone is being promised the top job long term, then it should be me." [10:28]
Kate: "This is special, isn't it? Us four together. It doesn't happen often... sometimes you just want to be able to talk fast, freely, you know?" [08:26]
The episode blends humor, warmth, and pragmatic challenges, true to the Archers’ style. Playful jabs and familial sniping offer levity, while discussions of grief, money, and legacy keep the tone grounded in reality. The dinner scene, in particular, captures the heart of rural family life—a place where conflict and comfort coexist.
This episode weaves together urgent family logistics, generational dilemmas, and a search for fleeting joy amidst stress. As the family negotiates holidays, grief, and their father's cryptic promises, listeners are given a snapshot of the enduring complexities—and charms—of rural family life.