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Ash Patel & Amanda Cruise interview Alex Pardo, an industry insider who’s been in the trenches for over 20 years. In this eye-opening episode, Alex dispels common myths, revealing why true success isn’t about chasing shiny deals or rapid scaling but about strategic, value-driven relationships and market intelligence. If you've ever wondered how to navigate fierce competition, avoid overbuilding pitfalls, or structure deals that genuinely serve your long-term goals, this conversation is your blueprint. You’ll discover why cash flow is just part of the story, and why liquidation events and market timing often fuel the biggest gains. Alex shares candid lessons from his own rollercoaster journey from battling break-ins in rough markets to selling facilities at significant profit, highlighting the realities most industry “gurus” won’t tell you. Alex Pardo Current role: Storage Coach at Storage Wins Coaching Community, Co-Founder at ASCEND Based in: Miami, Florida Where to find them: https://www.youtube.com/alexpardo https://alexpardo.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-pardo/ Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard McGirr interviews Kevin Amolsch, who shares how sponsorships and strategic partnerships have catapulted Pine Financial Group from a small operation to managing hundreds of millions in assets. You’ll discover how hosting webinars, sponsorships, and leveraging well-known brands creates instant credibility, making investors and borrowers eager to work with you. Kevin dives into the stories behind his first $100,000 deal, sponsoring real estate meetings, running online webinars, and using third-party validation to accelerate growth, and explains why content, trust, and relationships beat cold outreach every time. Kevin Amolsch Current role: President of Pine Financial Group Based in: Wheat Ridge, Colorado Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinamolsch/ https://www.pinefinancialgroup.com/ Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Casmon interviews Jamie Thiel. Jamie reveals why she transitioned from LP investing to becoming a full-fledged GP and how her background in commercial roofing gave her a unique edge in due diligence and property analysis. She discusses her first mixed-use deal, the costly lessons she learned about inspections and tenant challenges. If you're tired of generic advice and ready to learn how everyday investors are building wealth in multi-family real estate, this episode is your blueprint. Jamie’s real-world stories and actionable insights will challenge your assumptions and inspire your next move. Perfect for aspiring investors, busy professionals looking to diversify, and anyone eager to master the fundamentals of profitable real estate investing this is the episode that can change your financial future. Jamie Thiel Current role: Principal Owner of A-List Ventures, LLC Commercial Account Representative at HKC Roofing & Sheet Metal Based in: Cincinnati, Ohio Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-thiel-7b31291/ https://brianluebben.com/ Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matt Faircloth interviews Brian Luebben. He shares how he transitioned from the corporate grind to creating a life centered around experiences, purpose, and giving back. You'll uncover his approach to balancing achievement with fulfillment, including why he's passionate about boutique hotels and experiential investments that reflect his unique style plus the lessons he’s learned about scaling without sacrificing pleasure. Brian breaks down his "game of millions," the importance of defining your three-year vision, and how to develop a relationship with money that prioritizes fun over obsession. Brian Luebben Current role: CEO/Founder of Action Academy Based in: Austin, Texas Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianluebben/ https://brianluebben.com/ Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pascal Wagner interviews Gary Lipsky about rising interest rates that are thickening the market, causing fewer deals to hit the shelves but creating a golden window for strategic investors. Gary breaks down the real impact of interest rate hikes, market absorption, and the increasing influence of geopolitical factors like deportations plus what these mean for property valuations and rental demand. You’ll discover how sophisticated operators are navigating the complexities of financing, balancing asset management, and making tough decisions like capital calls, all while maintaining operational excellence. Gary Lipsky Current role: President/CEO of Break of Day Capital Based in: Manhattan Beach, California Where to find them: hhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-lipsky/ http://www.BreakofDayCapital.com Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ash Patel & Amanda Cruise interview J Scott to discuss the shift from multifamily to ground-up development, building a high-caliber development stack, and how to educate investors about the risks and timing of development projects. They dive into Jay’s 351-unit ground-up project outside Dallas, the mechanics of a HUD 221D4 loan (40-year fixed-rate, fully amortized, with construction-period interest-only), and the importance of aligning with experienced partners. The conversation also covers market dynamics, capital-raising trends (pref equity and debt funds), and practical lessons on holding long-term vs. short-term exits. It’s a candid look at balancing risk, capital, and timing in a shifting real estate cycle. J Scott Current role: General Partner of Bar Down Investments LLC, Partner / Co-Founder of ScottBuilt Based in: Sarasota, Florida Where to find them: https://linktr.ee/jscottinvestor https://www.linkedin.com/in/jscottinvestor/ Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard McGirr interviews Caitlin Waldshmidt as she shares her insights on the realities of lending to small multifamily and fix-and-flip projects, highlighting why straightforward, transparent relationships trump flashy marketing. You'll learn how to recognize the hidden opportunities during a deal drought, including the value of servicing the top-tier borrowers who prioritize certainty and reliability over price. Caitlin also discusses her unique strategy of staying out of crowded marketing channels favoring conversations, reputation, and deep market knowledge over social media noise and why this approach creates a competitive advantage in a crowded industry. Caitlin Waldschmidt Current role: Sales Manager at Dynamo Capital Based in: Denver, Colorado Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/acaitlinboyd/ https://dynamocapital.com/ Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Chang shares his five-year outlook for commercial real estate and reflects on the future forces that could shape the industry. He explains how AI, geopolitical uncertainty, and stock market valuations may influence economic growth, investor behavior, and commercial real estate demand. Chang also breaks down sector-specific expectations, noting that multifamily may offer strong opportunities at today’s repriced valuations, while office and industrial will likely remain more selective and market dependent. He concludes that despite economic and political uncertainty, commercial real estate may outperform stocks over the next five to ten years for investors who buy assets in today’s market conditions. Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Casmon interviews Ben Kanner, founder of Three V Infrastructure, about the growing intersection between EV charging and multifamily real estate. Ben shares his journey from subprime mortgages to Deutsche Bank portfolio management and eventually into renewable infrastructure, where he identified a major financing gap in EV charging for commercial properties. He explains why EV charging should be viewed primarily as an amenity rather than a direct NOI driver and how operators can use it to attract higher-income renters, increase rents, and reduce turnover. Ben breaks down EV adoption trends, noting that while U.S. penetration still trails global markets, adoption continues to rise—especially with more affordable EV models and a wave of used Teslas entering the market. For multifamily owners, the key isn’t just installation, but proper underwriting based on EV registration data, demographic trends, and projected utilization. Three V Infrastructure offers a no-upfront-cost model where they fund, install, own, and manage the chargers, taking utilization risk and only profit-sharing after recouping their capital and a threshold return. Ben KannerCurrent role: Founder, Three V InfrastructureBased in: Bay Area, California Where to find Ben Email: bkanner@3vinfrastructure.com Website: https://www.3vinfrastructure.com Visit trustetc.com/bestever for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matt Faircloth interviews Matt Faupel about how most commercial real estate investors overlook one of the most dynamic and resilient asset classes: office space. In this eye-opening episode, Matt Faupel from Cushman & Wakefield reveals how the future of office management is being revolutionized by cutting-edge tools, including AI, and why understanding the nuances of this market can unlock hidden value and protect your investments. Imagine transforming your approach to office management with insights that go beyond traditional strategies covering everything from security protocols for C-suite safety to the incredible potential of AI in diagnostics and predictive maintenance. Matt shares real-world stories, from bullet holes to animal intrusions, illustrating why proactive management and emergency preparedness can save millions and ensure tenant retention in an ever-evolving landscape. Matt Faupel Current role: Founder of Faupelx, Sr. Property Manager at Cushman & Wakefield Based in: Greater St. Louis Where to find them: https://www.faupelx.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/faupelm/ Visit https://www.trustetc.com/ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit www.tribevestisc.com for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Podcast production done by Outlier Audio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices