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Truth is truth.

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Like here, like this right here, right? Do not stretch out your hand against an old man and do not speak first to a great man. Like that's true. Whether it's found in an Egyptian proverb or a biblical proverb. It's wise. Like that is a wise way to live life. Actually, Paul says something very similar to Timothy. He's like, hey, hey, hey, there's guys in the church who are older than you. And I want to give you wisdom on how to lead people who are older than you, how to honor those who are older than you. James says the same thing in terms of do not speak first to a great man. James is going to say, hey, when you show up to a banquet, don't take the seat of honor. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's presumptuous. You're better off taking a bad seat and getting moved up to a seat of honor versus taking a seat of honor and then having to get moved to the cheap seats. Okay? So even though these words don't find their way in the Bible, these ideas do. And that's the thing about wisdom. Wisdom is like, it's universal. Okay? And so I want to remind everybody there's this passage that I love. Pretty sure it's First Timothy, chapter three. I can actually Google it really, really quick just to make sure that I've got the right passage. I'm actually really glad that I looked this up. In logos, I said first Timothy, it's second Timothy, second Timothy, chapter three. And we are going to start reading. In verse 15, it says, and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures. This is Paul talking to Timothy. And in speaking of the Scriptures, this is what Paul says, which are able to make you wise for salvation, wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. And then he says, all Scriptures are God breathed and useful for teaching. But before we even get to that part, which is really popular, verse 16 is very, very popular. Verse 15 says that the Scriptures hold in them the power of wisdom that prepares you for salvation. And I think a lot of times we're trying to offer the world, the secular world around us, like, you know, truth. And not to say that the church doesn't have a lot of truth to offer, but I think that we have so much wisdom to offer. And wisdom prepares people for salvation because guess what the wisest thing is that you could ever do. Surrender your life to the lordship of Jesus. But it's hard to get someone to surrender their life to the lordship of Jesus if they have a habit of doing a bunch of unwise things. And so Dave Ramsey, a great example. Dave Ramsey just takes practical wisdoms. 50% of what that man talks about is straight from the book of Proverbs. Don't get into debt, you know, flee, flee from debt in ways like a gazelle's trying to flee from a trap. Like this is wisdom. And by offering wisdom around finances, what begins to happen is people begin to want to govern their whole life according to wisdom, because wisdom is there to prepare you for salvation. And I think that there's wisdom. My pet peeve are Christians who are deep but not wise. So they're spiritual, but they're just not wise. And the world needs wisdom, man. People need wisdom on how to navigate their marriage, how to do parenting, how to do their finances, how to navigate business. People need wisdom. And I actually think that the best form of evangelism that we have for a dying world around us, people who are going to hell, is being wise, being wise, people who live wise lives and who can make Christ attractive through the wisdom of our life. Okay? So I know Those are big 30,000 foot ideas, and that's kind of, you know, I want us to wrap our minds around that context clue. And now let's get into some nerdy nuggets. Okay? When we look at Proverbs, chapters four through six, there's a couple things I just want to Observe. Okay? Proverbs chapter 4, verse 1, Proverbs chapter 4, verse 10, Proverbs 4, 20, Proverbs 5, 1 Proverbs 5, 20, Proverbs 6, 1 Proverbs 6, 3. Proverbs 6, 20. Just in these three chapters of the Bible we get eight allusions or references to my son, okay? That the tone of the book of Proverbs is a father sitting down with his son, like pleading with his son to learn wisdom. Okay? To learn wisdom, please be wise. Please remember my words, please remember my teaching, please remember the lessons that I wanna share with. I gotta download wisdom into your heart, into your mind, okay? That's the first nerdy nugget. It's just these eight times where it's over and over and over and over. And you always wanna remember. In the Bible, repetition means that things are important, okay? When God wants to emphasize something, he repeats it over and over and over and over and over. So Proverbs 4:1 4, 10, 4:2 0, 5, 1 5, 26, 1:6 3 and 6:21 all emphasize the fact that God is speaking through the author to give wisdom to a son. Okay? Number two, Proverbs chapter four, verse seven is going to make it clear that you should pay any cost in order to attain wisdom. Okay, I'll go to chapter four, verse seven. It says this. The beginning of wisdom is this. Get wisdom. I love that. The beginning of wisdom is this. Get it. Okay. Get wisdom. And I love this. The second half of the verse, though it cost you all you have. Get understanding. Though it costs you all you have. Get it. It's worth all the money you could pay. Go get wisdom. Go get understanding. It's funny because wisdom is never gonna go on sale. It's not cheap. Wisdom will always cost you something. I'll kind of give you a couple stories of how I spent a lot in order to gain wisdom. First, first thing, just, just, I just want to let you know this, that people that graduate with a four year degree from college, because college is expensive, okay? The school that I went to, I think was like 120 grand for four years, okay? So college is expensive. And I need you to know this. People who end up going to school stay married longer. People who end up going to college end up making at minimum half a million dollars more throughout their career. Why? Because the number one thing that school provides is not information, it's wisdom. Wisdom on how to talk to adults. Wisdom. When you're 17 years old, when you're 18, you've got to negotiate with a 45 year old professor on whether or not, you know, can I take this exam next week? Or hey, can I? It's the point of college is not the grades. People are like, I just don't understand what I'm going to get out of it. You're going to get wisdom. That's the point. You're gonna get wisdom. And yes, it's gonna cost you, but you should pay the price. Why? Because wisdom is worth attaining. There's a season where I was a youth pastor. We did a youth and young adult conference three years in a row. First year, 500 youth and young adults showed up. Second year, a thousand. Third year, almost 2,000 youth and young adults. Well, by that third year, that conference was profitable. There were enough people showing up to that event that it was profitable. Right? That conference didn't lose money. That conference actually gained money. And so what happened though in the first year is that we lost $30,000, okay? In order to get to the point where it was profitable, I had to spend $30,000, essentially wasting money. And I remember I was sitting down with our executive pastor at the time and he went, did you just lose $30,000 of like church resources? And I looked at him and said, I didn't lose $30,000, I spent $30 to learn how to do a conference. He was like, man, your ability to talk your way out. He's like, I should be firing you. Like, I cannot believe you used $30,000 church finances to do some conference. That wasn't really a win. But guess what? They let me do it the next year. You know why? Because I quoted Proverbs 4, 7 Though wisdom cost everything you have. Spend the money, spend it. Why? Because in spending it, you are gaining an understanding of how to do something. I could go to learn a conference, learn how to do a conference dot com. Or I could spend $30,000 actually doing a conference. And by the third year we were profitable because I invested the resources to learn how to do something. Get wisdom. Get wisdom. The first ministry job I ever had, I think I was getting paid like $22,000 a year. I had to live with my parents in order to get the job. Okay, I couldn't even move out of my parents house, but I learned how to do hospital visits, I learned how to do weddings, I learned how to do funerals. I learned how to run a prayer meeting, I learned how to preach. I gained wisdom. And my pet Peeve are like 20 year olds who like want to get paid a lot of money to do their job. It's like, first of all, you know, I was at this church called Home Church in. I was in Red Deer, Alberta, which is Canada, and the senior pastor's dad was in the room and the senior pastor's father was kind of talking about how these two dudes that were in the church, his son now leading the church in his 40s, maybe 50s, and their executive pastor, who's also in their 40s or 50s, he said, yeah, I hired these guys when they were 21. You know, I hired these guys like 30 years ago because that senior pastor's dad at one point was leading the church and then transitioned the church to his son. And he said, yeah, I hired them when they were 21. And he said, and I didn't pay him a dime.

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He said, I didn't pay him nothing because they weren't worth nothing. And I just laughed. I was like, man, this is why we need old people. That's why we need older people. Because he just looked at, he was like, why would I pay you? You make mistakes. You don't do what I tell you to do.

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Like, you don't know what you're doing.

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I'm not going to pay you anything.

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Because you're not worth paying. And you know, my friend who's the senior pastor's name, Pastor Jakin Mullen, he said, yeah, that's exactly what my dad said. He said, but guess what I did. I made sure that I attained wisdom. So that in five years I did ask for a salary because at that point I actually had the experience and expertise to. To ask for a salary.

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You know how many 22 year olds.

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I've met that want to negotiate salaries? And it's like, why would I pay you?

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You're, you should be paying me to be around me because I'm successful.

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And I think that that offends a lot of young people. But the reality is that Proverbs says get wisdom, although it cost you everything you have. Get wisdom. There's a young man in the studio with us right now who, like, we were paying him to like, edit content. And then, you know, a couple years ago we said, hey man, like, we've been paying you to, like, travel with Pastor Manny and edit content. But, you know, as we go into 2024, we're going to offer you an unpaid internship in Dallas. This kid lived in North Carolina at the time. We're going to offer you an unpaid internship in Dallas. We're not going to pay you a dime. And you know, if you want to learn, hey, man, we're going to take.

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You off of salary.

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We're going to ask that you move.

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Your life across the country and that.

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You would trust us and be a part of an unpaid internship. And that kid's name is Kenwell, and he did that. And you want to know why he did that? Because the beginning of wisdom is this. Get wisdom. Though it cost you everything you have. Get wisdom. And I think a lot of us, we think that a check is more valuable than wisdom. And the moment you think that money is more valuable than wisdom, you'll never have wisdom.

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And which also means you'll never have money either. Because the number one way to get.

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Money is to first get wisdom. There's a lot of young people. 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29. You've prioritized securing the bag. Securing instead of prioritizing, securing wisdom, which means you jeopardize both, which means you don't get wisdom or the bag. And the reality is that if you actually just prioritize getting wisdom, the bag would come find you. Because money finds wise people and it runs away from foolish people. You could actually get a lot of money. And if you're a fool, you don't know how to steward it. And so you could win the lottery. And 95% of people who win the lottery for millions of dollars go broke within three years. Why? Because money is not the thing that you need. It's wisdom. Without wisdom, you will be. Allen Iverson in his 50s, made tons of money while he was playing in the NBA and is broke today. Why is he broke? Because he got money before he got wisdom. And now he's in his older years and he has wisdom. And he's hoping to God that he can now secure more money. But Proverbs 4, 7. Get wisdom. Get wisdom. Get wisdom.

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It's the chief thing.

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I wanna ask you a question, like, is wisdom the number one thing you're going after in your life? Cause if it's not, I wanna challenge you to make some adjustments because you need wisdom. And the world that we live in will tell you everything else is important. You know, and the reality is that I'm not saying money's not important, but what I am saying is that you can have all the money in the world, but if you don't know how to steward that money, and if you don't know how to invest it and maintain it, then you have a wisdom problem. Family, the wait is over. My brand new book, Crushing Chaos is out now and available everywhere. Books are sold.

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Literally.

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Copies at a physical location.

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So you can grab this book at a physical Barnes and Noble, or you can go to a Books A Million or Amazon or anywhere books are sold and grab a copy. If you enjoy reading the Bible from an ancient perspective, if you understand that the beauty of scripture is actually knowing it in context, then you'll love this book. And if there's any chaos in your personal life, I think that reading the Bible from an ancient perspective can actually help to crush the chaos in your life.

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I think this book is going to be a New York Times bestseller.

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I really do. I think we wrote a good one. I think you should get a copy today. All right, back to the episode. All right, Proverbs chapter five is going to talk about sexual temptation and discipline. I actually want to just give you one little nerdy nugget that verses 15 through 19 are actually pretty erotic. And by erotic, I mean, like, sexually explicit. Okay? It says this in verse 15. Drink water from your own cistern. That means have sex with your own wife. This is talking about bodily fluids. Like, this is, drink water from your own cistern, okay? And that's running water from your own well should your springs overflow in the streets, okay?

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Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You can't be out here. You can't let the banks overflow.

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Okay? So this language is purposely erotic on purpose. And this is what's happening. You'll see this with the next psalm. Why do I keep saying psalm? You'll see this with the next proverb as well. In Proverbs, chapter six, it'll kind of. It's gonna give compelling imagery. I actually want us to go to Proverbs, chapter 6. It says this in verse 26. A Father's giving his dad advice. And I know. Okay, here's what you're gonna need to remember. This is a father's perspective to their son, okay? I know every guy kind of has a relationship with his son, which is like, hey, man, don't tell your mom I said this, man, but I just gotta talk to you man to man, all right? And Proverbs kind of has that vibe. Like, moms wives may not like what Proverbs has to say, but this is like a dad talking to his son. Okay? So this is. This is. He says, avoid adulterous women at all costs. Okay? Proverbs, chapter 6, verse. Verse 26. He said, do not lust acts in verse 25. Do not lust in your heart after her. Beauty. Or captivate. Or her. Or let her captivate you with her. Her eyes, okay? Run, flee from the adulterous woman, okay? And then it says this. And I know women may not like this, you may not like this, but this is a man's perspective to his son. For a prostitute can be had for a loaf of bread.

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A prostitute can be had for a loaf of bread.

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But another man's wife prays on your very life.

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A dad is essentially saying, bruh, if you are this hot and bothered, go get a prostitute for a loaf of bread. The price of a loaf of bread, you could go sleep with a hooker, dude, like, what's wrong with you? But another man's wife. Here we go. This is what happens if you have sex with another man's wife.

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Verse 34.

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For jealousy arouses a husband's fury. Like brother, you could go have sex with the prostitute and just pay, pay the price. It's a loaf of bread, it's cheap. Prostitutes are cheap. But sex with another man's wife. You're going to arouse a husband's fury and he will show you no mercy.

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When he takes revenge.

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He will not accept any compensation. He will refuse a bribe, however great it is. Fury.

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Okay?

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It's smarter if you have to choose between sin and you have to choose between prostitute and have sex with somebody else's wife. Avoid another man's wife at all costs. Again, we may not like this, but Proverbs is going to say why? Okay, why? Why should we avoid having sex with people's wives? Well, because it leads to being broke. Broke. Okay, Proverbs chapter 5.

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It says this like, if you don't have self control over your sexual desires, here's what's going to happen. It says, I'll actually start in verse 8. Keep to a path far from her. Who's her? The adulterous woman. Okay? Do not go near the door of her house. AKA avoid sin. Don't fight it. Avoid temptation, don't fight it. Put no confidence in your flesh. Like, don't even go near the house, dude. Verse 9. Lest you lose your honor to others and your dignity to one who is cruel.

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Lest strangers feast on your wealth and your toil, enrich the house of another. Why should you avoid adultery? Because you'll go broke. Like, like Proverbs is like, hey, hey.

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Hey, hey, hey, hey.

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Before we over spiritualize this, before we're.

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Just kind of like a, you know.

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Because you love the Lord, Proverbs are.

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Going to make it real simple.

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Hey, don't do this lest you lose.

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Your honor to others and your dignity to one who is cruel. Lest strangers feast on your wealth. On your wealth. I was talking to a person who's a mentor, a spiritual leader in my life, a spiritual father in my life, a pastor. It was just kind of a man to man moment. And we were talking about another pastor that had a moral failure. And this leader just kind of looked at me and just went, they lost a half a million dollar book deal like over an affair. I'm sorry, I've never had a sexual experience worth half a million dollars. Never. Never. And if you really like asked me like, why am I faithful to my wife? I would say, A, because I love the Lord 100%. B, because I cannot fathom my son looking me in the face and not having respect for me. Ok. And then number three, because I'm.

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Too successful to do dumb stuff. I'm sorry, but I'm not losing my home, I'm not losing my career. Over What? Over, over 30 minutes, over an hour, over what a night. Yeah, right. This is ridiculous. I remember there was a season of.

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My life, there was this two year window where I was just dating someone who I shouldn't have been dating. And every time I would go to this girl's house, you know, there was street cleaning that, that was on the street that I parked on where I would go visit this girl and I would be spending the night. I was having sex outside of marriage. I was just an idiot, just being an idiot, you know. And I remember there was two times where my car got towed. Like I'm leaving her house at like 5, 6 o' clock in the morning and I'm coming out to the street and my car's gone. And I remember like having to go to the city impound, like get my car out. And you know what? After the second time, you know, I.

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Broke up with this girl, I stopped.

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Having sex with her and I took the receipt of the like $300 that I had to pay to get my car out of the impound and, and I framed it and I was like, the next time I'm, I'm so, you.

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Know, full of lust that I, that.

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I not thinking straight. I'm just going to think about the money I had to spend getting my car out of the impound. And I think that there are some of us, like you actually need to come face to face with the failure that is on the other side of you making foolish sexual decisions. And the thing that Proverbs does that no other book of the Bible does is that proverbs paints this imagery for us that you can't really shake.

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It's not a law.

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Like, there are other books of the Bible that will explain this in like law form or like covenant form or commandment form. But proverbs doesn't do that. Proverbs explains things with the poetry and the imagery that just makes you go, yo, man, I can't remember all the super deep reasons, but I can remember, hey, if I lack discipline, I will be broke. Okay, cool. I gotcha. I gotcha. And so proverbs is going to say over and over and over and over, hey, son, you gotta practice sexual purity for all kinds of awesome reasons. But if you don't have those awesome reasons, let me give you reasons that I know will motivate you. Because you don't want strangers to feast on your wealth or your toil to enrich the house of another. What good is it if I spend all these years building up the Arango name in the Arango brand and the Bible department brand in the armor brand, and then I go and I cheat on my wife and now my son has nothing to inherit? And that is. That would be a shame. That would be a literal shame. The biggest thing I could give my son is a good name. And the only way to give him a good name is to live a pure life. And more than money, I don't want to just leave something to him. I want to leave something in him. And the main thing I want to leave to him is a good name that he can go anywhere in America and say the name Arango. And that name opened doors for him. And I would forfeit my ability to give him a good name if I would make a shortsighted decision and go to the house of adultery or let the woman of adultery lead me. And man, that's a timeless truth. Can I ask you a hard question? Are you intimately aware of the consequences that would befall you if you were actually to follow your foolish desires? Because a lot of us are living in a fantasy and you are living in best case scenario, you think that you can sin and get away with it. But proverbs causes us to come back to the reality that no, no, no, no. Your failures, your faults, your mistakes will catch up to you. And when they catch up to you, they will 100% make sure that your life is nowhere close to the level of success that you could have had had you led a life that was pleasing to the Lord. That's not just true for Solomon and his son. That's not just true for David and his son. That's true for me. That's true for you. All right, tomorrow we've got proverbs, chapter seven through nine. We're going to be right here for day 304. I'm so, so, so, so, so excited that we're trekking through the Book of Proverbs.

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Anyone who needs to be shaken awake.

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With some wisdom, you're going to get it as we trek through the Book of Proverbs, because Proverbs is here to say things in the most plain way so that you can live a life of wisdom. I'll see you right here tomorrow. I love you so much.

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Till next time.

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Peace. Thanks so much for joining us on the Bible Department podcast. You can find us online and learn more about the show@thebibledepartment.com and on Instagram hebibledepartment. If you enjoyed this episode and want to dive deeper into the Bible, you can get free access to our library of courses at thebibledepartment. Com. We'll see you back here tomorrow.