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Hi, guys. I have such a special guest today. I am so excited. I can't believe that this is my very first time having her on the podcast. But it is the LA Facialist. My great friend, Candace Marino. Welcome.
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I cannot believe we haven't done this yet.
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I know.
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Kind of crazy, kind of rude, I
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know, but, you know, it's time. Our schedules are so insane. Like, she is one of the people in my life that, like, understands. Like, go, go, go. Like, so many people are like, oh, I'm busy. I have this, I have that. Like, our level of busy supersedes. Everyone else is busy. It's like a new definition of busy. Except I will say she's on a plane way more than I am.
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I got miles, girl. I'm racking up the miles.
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She's in the sky. If you don't know where Candice is, she's probably on an airplane.
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I just got off an airplane and I stood in a customs line for two hours, which has never happened in my life. It was miserable with no air cond. So I'm a little on edge. I'm not gonna lie. I'm having a little drink, so cheers.
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Cheers. We love that. Okay, so for the people that don't know you, which everyone probably does, Candace is honestly a superstar in our industry. She is someone that I've looked up to for years, and now I get to call a great friend of mine. She does everything. Celebrity facials. She is the queen of the facial massage. She is a face of so many different brands. She's accomplished just pretty much everything you can accomplish in this industry and her career. And you've been in the industry for what, 20 years, girl.
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20 years. When I say that I'm like, I'm old because I don't feel old. I actually feel younger than I've ever felt in my life. But when I say that, I'm like, holy shit. Like, I'm an adult.
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Yeah.
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But, yeah, 20 years it's been. I got my license when I was 18, and I've been working in aesthetics since then from every arena. Dermatology, day spas, med spas, you name it. Plastic surgery. And it's just finally evolved into the business that I have now.
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I love that. Yeah. She is someone that I love and look up to so much because she is so who she is, and that's how I am. And I think in our industry, there can be a lot of cattiness, a lot of copying, a lot of people just that don't have their own vision for what they want. And Candace and I really are, I feel like, are some of the people in the industry that just do our own thing, stay in our own lane, and, like, can appreciate each other's success and not be threatened by it. And I think that's so hard to find in any industry because women just like to hate on each other. And so when we were like, okay, we're both, like, cool bitches, we both, like, get along really well. And then on top of that, we both love diving. And I think that's, like, so niche.
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So I think it's really cool because what I always say when other estheticians ask me about, like, friends in the industry, and I'm like, we already have something in common. Like, we already do the same thing for a living. We know each other's lives on a pretty deep level, because if you're a service provider and you're doing treatments, we really do understand each other. So I just get so confused by why there has to be competition if you already have something in common with another person. Like, you already have an opportunity to have a relationship or a friendship. So it just doesn't make sense to me that there can be such cattiness, because for me, like, I want everybody to win. And I'm in a position where I have created success in an industry that typically isn't a money making one. Right?
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Like, yeah.
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So when I got into it, for years, for at least a decade, I was, like, scraping by, barely making ends meet. And I'm in this position now where I have created something substantial, and I want to see every single person that has their esthetician's license do what I've done and maybe even more. Like, I want everybody to win. So to me, it just doesn't make sense. And I think that, you know, obviously we met through the Internet, right? And, like, you see other people having opinions on people and whatever. And I know that you've had people try to sway your opinions of me, vice versa. I had people try to be in my ear about you, but when I met you, it was undeniable that I was supposed to know you. You were on my path for a reason. We had so much in common. Yeah, we have the same type of sense of humor. We love a good time. We hard. We're hard workers. But then we really connected on certain specific things, like hobbies that not a lot of people have. And so I'm like, this is my girl. I ride with her. And that's it.
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I love that. And there's just so Many, like, weird alignment things. And, like, Candace and I are both very spiritual, and just how we view life is very, very similar. And I think that in itself is just, like, crazy. I'm like, where have you been my whole life? Because it's so hard to explain, like, your way of living to someone that doesn't understand it. But I think for us, like, we both got out of relationships, like, the same day, and we were both in different countries and, like, had no clue that, like, you know, any of this was happening. And I get on the phone and I'm like, I'm getting divorced. She's like, I called off my engagement. I'm like, today? She's like, today? And I'm like, you're fucking kidding. Like, the same day that I decided. You decided? And, like, we weren't like, that's crazy, honestly. And then I think one of my other favorite things that's like, more funny is we both brought two pairs of sunglasses to this conference for skin butter. Okay? We did not FaceTime each other. We didn't pack together. I didn't even know she owned these pairs of glasses. She didn't know that I did. And we're there for two days, and the first day we go down to get coffee and we're wearing the exact same pair of sunglasses. And then the second day we go down to get coffee and. And we're wearing the other pair that's, like, exactly the same. And I think it's just so funny that, like, we picked not only to bring two of the exact same glasses, but also, like, wearing them at that time. Because it would be like, the first day if you wore, like, the other pair and I wore the pair. It'd been like, still like, oh, my God, I brought those too. But we were, like, on the same wavelength. It was crazy. And there's been a lot of, like, weird stuff like that. So, yeah, I just love her. I think it's so hard to find genuine people in general and even more so in our industry because everyone just, like, wants to be caddy. But I agree with you, Candace. You build so much more when you lift other people up. And something else that we have mindset wise in common is we are such givers. And with our time, with our money, with our affection, like, I feel like it's just the universal language of abundance. Like, the more you give back, the more you get. And if you have a lack mindset and you're trying to gatekeep and you're just, like, scared of, like, helping other people, like, that literally blocks your flow, and you're really just hurting yourself. You're not protecting yourself or doing anything good for yourself. And both of us have gone from having no money to having money. And it truly, for me, has always been. And I know for you, too, is the more you give, even when you have nothing, you get so much more in the long run. So you're one of the other people that I've met that is very much like that and isn't like a tit for tat person and isn't calculated and just good intentions. I think it's hard to find people that just truly have pure intentions. And, yeah, we just. We vibe. So we're gonna get into our episode Bahama trauma. So I post divorce was like, I need to be in the water. I try to be in the ocean every quarter, every three months. And I just needed some ocean healing. It's like a very healing place for me. And you guys know, like, water is like, I'm either in a bath or in a body of water, and if I don't, like, I go crazy. And so I was like, I don't have anyone to travel with. Like, all of my friends work for me now, and I need them there. And Candace and I had been talking about, like, doing something, and I've wanted to take her shark diving so bad, because that's something that I just absolutely love. And I know she's, like, psychotic like me and will do it, and there's not many people that would say yes to that. And I'm like, she's gonna do it. She'll. So we planned this Bahamas trip, and the thing is about dive hotels and diving in general is it's not glitz and glamour. It is very, like, just basic bare essentials, right? And it's because when you're diving or fishing at these hotels, it's like, a really easy access to get to the spots you want to go. It's not super populated, obviously. That's why there's such good reefs and they're such good mammals and wildlife and all of that in the water, because there's not a lot of, like, tourists and people. And on top of that, too, like, legit divers, like, they don't go about that. Like, they're in the water all day, and then you just come home and you go to bed and you wake up and you get back on a boat. So it's really, like, exhausting, too. So people don't really do a lot or drink a lot or party on dive trips, because you got, it's an active. It's active. You gotta like lock in and so anyway, we stayed at some places that, you know, for us are not what we usually stay at. And it was fun, but I also think we were like a little bit bored and crashed out a bit for certain things.
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Yeah, yeah. I mean, listen, I think there's something to be said about us. We're willing to go and really make it about the dive and make it about the adventure. Trust me when I say I love a five star resort, but I also know how to rough it. You know how to rough it. And so we sacrifice the luxury and like the vacation for the diving. That was the purpose, was the diving. So you make some sacrifices. However, in hindsight, I would perhaps choose a different. Yeah, living situation. Because after you dive, you want to be comfortable, you want a hot shower, you want nice thread count.
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Yeah. Our beds were like rocks. The food was non existent. The people, there was no one. Like, we were like, literally like deserted island. Like, we were like, where are the people? And it's also off season, but that's when like the sharks are most active. So again, like, we went for the sharks, but I think my favorite was that they wouldn't give us towels. And then I was like, do you have laundry detergent so we can wash the one and a half towels you gave us? And the guy is like, no, I have laundry powder. And then he made me pay for it. Yeah, washing powder.
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Eyes for saying detergent. Like, sorry, sir.
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Yeah. And then so this was like when we first went and we were like next to Freeport. Yeah, it was a good time. We went and saw the tiger sharks, which were honestly the highlight of the trip. And we thought we'd like the Hammerheads more, but they're dodgy. And like, also the people we went with for the hammerhead sharks, they were just like, I don't like rules. I don't like being told what to do, especially if I'm paying to do something. And it's like my life and my body and my choice. Like, I will be a feminist in that way. If they are going to make me, like, if I lose an arm, like, that's on me. I signed the waiver. Like, let me, let me live my life. And I know the sharks know me and they know my vibes and they're not going to bite me. It's not gonna happen. Except I almost did get bit by a shark. I got mouthed and we'll get into that. But anyways, the second time we went Diving was Bimini, and the tigers were there, too, but it wasn't, like, the same. They weren't, like, friendly and just. I don't know. I just don't really care for hammerheads. Didn't do it for me.
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Well, okay, here's my question, because you know how, like, in the debriefing, they're like, do not make eye contact because you basically need to show them that you're standing your ground, right? So you're instructed to look at the shark directly in the face, and if it goes around you, you follow it, because that they're animals of opportunity. Right. So you want to show them I'm standing my ground. That way they respect you.
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Yeah.
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When it's a hammerhead, how do you look at it in the eye? Like, which. Like, where am I looking? So I was like, this is a little bit off. Like, everything I was taught, I'm like, which I. Which I. Which I. Yeah. And then they. They're like. They're very insecure, right?
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They're very, like, they're skittish. They're scared of it, for sure.
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Yeah.
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But so fun. They're so fun. It was just freezing like that. Like, I literally think I went to hypothermia shock. Is that how you say that? Hypothermic shock?
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Yeah. And we had two wetsuits on each. We doubled up, but freezing. We were literally shaking because you're not
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supposed to be, like, swimming around and stuff. And so you're just there and it's cold and you're underwater and you're just, like, freezing. Freezing. Yeah. So we need, like, 10 millimeter wetsuits next time we go do that. And that's another thing I want to go do Orcas, but I don't think I can survive. We need dry skin in icy water. I think I would die. I think I would black out, probably.
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But it's worth it.
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It's so worth it. So. Oh, my gosh. It feels like it's already been, like, a month since we came back. I'm trying to, like, bring myself back to all of, like, the things that happened. So I guess. Okay, first dive. How are you feeling? Because this was your first time diving with sharks. Like, I want to hear your experience.
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Okay. So I'm stoked, like you said. Like, I'm ready for everything. I'm a yes person. So, like, anything that is adventurous, I love adrenaline. And if it brings me to a point where I could maybe potentially die, I always say yes. So I was stoked, and I'm so happy to have a friend that wants to do these things, because I don't really have any other friends that are this way. I'm always the ringleader. Like, let's do this, let's do this. And nobody agrees to the shit that I want to do. So, number one, I was pumped. We get in the water and we were told, get to the bottom and descend as quickly as possible. Because if you're on the surface of the ocean, you're more. It's more of an opportunity for a shark than if you're at their level. Okay. So all I'm thinking in my head is like, get to the bottom. And it is like, even though I like a good, healthy amount of fear, it is scary jumping into waters with sharks that could potentially kill you. Like, they're thousands of pounds. So in my head, I'm like, get to the bottom, get to the bottom, get to the bottom. Well, I have inner ear issues, and I always have a little bit of a problem equalizing. And so I get in. I can't equalize. And if you can't equalize, it basically feels like a knife stabbing you in the ear. It's painful. So I'm like, fuck. Like, I shouldn't go down quickly because you're supposed to, like, do a clearing procedure to get to the bottom safely without hurting your eardrum. But then I'm in my head, like, I'm looking like prey. So just sink. So I sink myself and I'm in pain.
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Yeah.
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So I'm dealing with that. My mask is f. Cannot see a thing. All I see are these giant shadows
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passing me, and I'm could not fucking see. Like, the first, we're both looking at each other and we're like, they said to make eye contact, but we can't even see each other because our masks were so fogged on the first dive. That was really scary. I was like. And I also hate that, like, if I can't see, like, why am I doing this? Like, I can watch Discovery Channel, like, and see better quality if I'm, like, underwater and fogged up like that. And so it was. The first dive was not a vibe.
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That was not a vibe. In my head, I'm going through the basics because I've done dives before, but I've never been in this situation where I'm with apex predators. Right. So it's a little bit more nerve wracking. You're also debriefed to not be scared. Right. Don't have your heart elevated because these animals are really sensitive.
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They smell fear.
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They can smell fear. So I'm just down there like, what the hell? I am in pain. Which is my first order of business. Do I clear my ear or do I see first? So I'm like, all right, you're free. Freaking out. You need to be able to see. So I clear my mask. Okay, so now we're good. I'm like, all right, I can see. And then I see how huge they are. And that's wild. That's a trip to be down there at that level. So then they're swinging by me, but I can see and I'm making the eye contact. Then I get myself through the ear clearing. And then I finally drop in and I'm like, this is the coolest thing I've ever done in my life.
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Like, it's so cool. Like, I want everyone to experience it. It's like they. It's just so magical. Honestly, it's. I don't even have words for it. Like, it brings tears to my eyes and I just like. I guess equivalent would be like taking like the best drug that you could ever take. And then that's what I feel like that feeling would be like when you get out of the water, like, the first time you do it, it's just like you feel like on such a high adrenaline high. Like, it's just amazing. But yeah, and I think it's cool that we were both like, scared of sharks in general. Like that. I think I've shared this probably 50 times on this podcast and everywhere. But, like, I had an irrational fear of sharks growing up, which is crazy living in Texas. But, like, I could not watch shark movies. Like, I would get really bad anxiety. Like, and I grew up in a family that dives. My parents got engaged after scuba diving in Mexico, which is like so cute. And so we've always just dove. And I would always have this fear of like seeing a shark. Seeing a shark. And I eventually, as I got older, I was like, this is just like, stupid. Like, I'm a mother, I'm a boss ass business owner. Like, I cannot be scared of a shark. Like that silly. Especially to this level. Like, I think there is healthy fear. But for me, like, it was like so, like insane. Like, anxiety ridden. Like, I would have nightmares about it. I'd be just like, really tense. So anyways, I was like, I'm gonna go swim with sharks. I did. And yeah, ever since I did it, I was just had a different perspective on all of it. And it's really like, so peaceful and Beautiful. And I think people really demonize sharks. And you know, when you tell people you're swimming with sharks, they all look at you like you're crazy. And I would have thought the same thing way back when, but if you're briefed and trained and like you're doing what you're supposed to be doing, like, you're gonna be okay. More people get bit in New York than they do by sharks. It's true. That's a statistic.
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You know, it's funny because I had the same irrational fear when I was growing up. My cousins had this like toy rubber bath shark. And if I saw it, I would be in hysterics, hyperventilating, screaming, crying. They could. They would chase me down the hallway. I would get out of the bath naked, run down the hallway. I also had this fear that if I was in a swimming pool, a shark was magically gonna appear and eat me. Stupid. And I let that go. Like, I love the ocean. And over the years I've let it go. And I'm not the person that won't get in the ocean because I think a shark's gonna get me. But coming face to face with the shark is a completely different thing. Whether you're afraid of them or not. Like for anybody to say that they've jumped in the first time and didn't have a little bit of fear, they would be lying to you because it's intimidating at the end of the day. Even ones that our guides know because they go there every day, they're still unpredictable. And if you give them an opportunity, they will take it. Yeah.
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Which is kind of what could have happened to me. So I guess I'll tell you this fun story. So there I am, like getting ballsy. This is day two. Okay. Because like, that's my thing. I always like to do a two day shark dive back to back. Because, like the first day, you know, it's my first time getting in scuba gear. And like probably three months, because I don't live near an ocean, I don't scuba dive a lot. So getting like the lay of the land. And then also tiger sharks, I've done before in Indonesia and. But it was like way more chaotic. It was just really commercialized. It was like a lot of people and the way it was done was just like scary. This was way more controlled. So anyways, first day I'm like getting the vibes. I'm not touching them, they're getting close to me. I have my pole. Second day, I'm like, let's fucking go. I'm swimming with them. The instructors are like, you can swim with these. Just watch out for Too Sexy, which is one of the sharks. They're like, she will bite you. I'm like, okay, great. And they're like, this is what she looks like. Like, da, da, da. Don't fuck with this shark. And I was like, got it. Won't fuck with that shark. Okay. So I'm like just like doing my thing. I'm touching them, I'm swimming with them, we're bonding. It's like magical. I'm like so happy. And I have this big shortcut in front of me and I'm like filming it and I like get pushed back from the current a bit like with my tank. And, and I like get myself back up and then I just feel like someone grabbed my shoulder. And I think it's like the instructor that I fell into. And so I'm like, okay, they're just helping me back up. But then a couple more seconds went by and they didn't stop touching me. I'm like, why the fuck are they touching me? So I turned my head expecting to see a human on my arm and it's just a fucking 16 foot tiger shark with its mouth on me, like looking at me like this. And I'm like, oh, like that's great, right? Like, I just kind of froze and I was just like, cool. And then the instructor actually ends up coming and like pulling me out of its mouth. And I'm just like, for a minute just staring at my wetsuit, like waiting for blood to just start like going up. I'm like, did I die? Did it take an arm? Am I in shock right now? And I'm looking at it, looking for like teeth marks. And I was like completely fine. Basically. Like the instructor when we got back up was like, yeah, you're tank like you felt, and the shark was right behind you. You fell into her and your bubbles scared her and so she would just like kind of like give you a little mouth. But again, that might scare people. But like, if the shark wanted my arm and to bite me, like I would have been gone. So it's like another thing. Like, they're not killers. Like, she didn't bite me, she was just like giving me a love bite. She was like like, what is this? Like a curiosity like thing? And like, yeah, was it scary? For like a second. But then I was like, I'm fine. And also that's like badass. I'm five three, 108 pounds and well, 111. Because now I'm in a relationship, and he keeps cooking me stuff. So
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she be eating.
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She'd be eaten. And she does. And so, yeah. I mean, was it scary? I think the scary part for me was that I was expecting to look back and see a human being and a hand on my arm, not a shark.
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You handled that really well. I honestly didn't even know what was going on because, like, it wasn't just, like, one shark at a time. Like, at points, there was, like, five of them around us. And you're instructed to keep eye contact. Right. So your head's on the swivel and you're watching them. So, like, I missed that whole thing. I had no idea what happened until we got up on the boat, and they were like, savannah got a nibble. It's so badass. Like, I'm actually jealous. I want to nibble. Yeah, well, street cred in the diving community.
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I do, and she does, and I didn't even lose my shit. I was cool as hell.
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You know what's cool, though? We learned that groupers are more aggressive than sharks.
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They are. And we got to name a dive site Pistachio's Landing.
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We did name a dive site. I know. This trip was so iconic in so many ways. We did name a dive site.
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It was so fun. I mean, it was just a great trip all around. I think, you know, we would probably want to do a live aboard with a chef next time, but it was a good experience. It was good for us. Like, we got to, like, be off the grid a bit. We got to see things that, like, you know, it's for a lot of people, once in a lifetime to be able to go see sharks that close. And, you know, we're both now Patty certified shark conservationist, which is pretty fucking cool too. And, yeah, I think the next trip we're gonna do for diving is Bonaire.
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I know. We gotta plan that.
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Yeah, we do.
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I'm excited because it's more of, like, coral and, like, perhaps we'll find a seahorse, which is, like, on our bucket list.
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That's what they say. Yeah. That's like, one of. We have to look at our bucket list bingo thing that for diving. So we checked off a lot on that trip, but we have, like, a little bingo card of, like, things we want to do and see in the water.
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For me, this trip would have been 10 out of 10 if I wasn't just hangry the entire time.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean? So, yeah, I feel like the live aboard the chef situation. Like if we're well nourished.
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Poor Candace. I got a video of her eating cheez its. I never thought I would see that.
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I, I will eat everything. But my typical diet doesn't consume. Like, I don't do processed foods.
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Oh yeah. She comes here and she's like, you drink that? Do you get that? And then my favorite, I'm taking her to my house. We pass the tom them and she goes, is that like yalls erewhon? I was like, babe, this is not a. This is nothing compared to an erwan. No.
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Yeah. We just live kind of different, you know?
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Yeah. I'm just a dirt squirrel, as you would say. You are a chunkier loo dirt squirrel. Chunk of loo.
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And I love it. Like, that's my favorite thing about you.
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Thank you.
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For me, I'm like, I don't, I don't. I don't feel good eating things that are out of a package. And all I wanted was like a real meal of food. And so we go to this grocery store and it's literally like being at a 7:11. So it was packaged food and I'm
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like, my dream date.
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Yeah, her dream date. My worst nightmare. And I'm like, what do we do with this? Like, I'm going to actually starve. And then to add insult to injury, the first dive day, all we wanted was a coffee. Like a latte, cappuccino. Something simple, even like nice coffee with a little splash of milk. I could have done. We go to this place and it was burnt. I was like, this is hot bean water. Like, what do I do with this? I cannot. It was bad. And so we weren't caffeinated. Called our drink a Coke. Yeah, I had to drink a Coke, which I haven't had a Coke in years. Soda. We had to call our psychic advisor before the dive because we were in such like a dark place, like heading out on this two hour journey through the ocean to go to the dive site. Yeah. To call and have cards, read. Because we were like, the vibes are off. We are sleep deprived. We are starving. We're freezing. It was kind of like a recipe for disaster. So we had to call, you know, a hail Mary and get some, get some life advice and get re centered. And then after we had that conversation, I feel like the, the, the vibes change. And we went outside and we did a little amp up. We did a little prayer together and then we were like for it. But I'm proud of us because given the circumstances we handled everything so well.
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We honestly really did. And I think we, like, we have street cred. I think, like, we were humbled many, many times. I think that, you know, it was just good for us to do something that was different and not our norm. I think the worst part of all of it is, like, on the last stop, like, we were going to Resorts World Bimini. And it's just, again, it was off season, guys. So I think these places probably would be a lot better with people, like, human contact. Like, I think that was what was so hard is like, we're. Me and Candace are really social and we're together and, like, we wanted to, like, be bop around and like, also we wanted, like, the fucking sun. This is a big point of all of it. We would have been fine if it was nobody. And we could, like, actually be laying out and, like, just getting, like, some warmth on our skin, but it was, like, so cold. So, like, when we were done, we just wanted to be in, like, sweatpants and a sweatshirt. Like, it was just like a weird energy. Like, we wanted to be frolicking and swimming like mermaids, and we couldn't do that. But anyways, we were so excited because we're like, oh, my God, we're gonna have good food. Like, we're going to, like, an actual resort. Like, there's a spa. We're looking at the spa menu. We're, like, so pumped. We're like, there's a pool. Da da da da da. We're really like, have such a good time. We get there and the spa's closed, so they had to call in people, thankfully, to come in to, like, massage, give us a massage, which was great. And then the pool was closed. The food was not good. We both, like, literally or, like, dying. Like, we were having tummy issues. The next day, both of us, we probably got food poisoning. Then I got bedbugs, which was so fun. All over my legs. Didn't get bit by a shark, but I did get bit by bed bugs. Yeah.
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I honestly would have rather camped than stay at where we were at because for me, like, I am down to get dirty and rough it a little bit. But, like, if I'm paying to stay in an accommodation, I would prefer it's, like, nicer.
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Also, what the fudge about them putting us, like, at the very end of the hotel when there's no one there, Nobody, Miles.
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Just to get to our room.
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It was miles. Oh, my God, you could have put us next to the elevator.
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Can we talk about the spa experience
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and how you ate hand soap.
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Okay, this is so disgusting. I can't believe this happened. But, babe, you didn't eat.
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You ate hand soap. It's actually really clean and hygienic of you.
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Fine. I mean, the soap was probably the best thing I ate on the whole trip.
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Let's shut the up.
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No, honestly. Because the food was horrible. But I have, like, this thing where if my mouth is stagnant and stale, like, I'll lose it. And I can't go have a massage if I have, like, a musty mouth. And we just ate horrible food at lunch. And I was like, I need to brush my teeth. But there was no toothbrush, so there was mouthwash, and it was right next to the hand soap, and there was no, like, cup to take, so I was like, whatever. I'm just going to raw dog it. So I like, tilt my head back and I pump it, and then I have this, like, gelatinous material. And what is in my mouth that
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I hear Savannah go, is that hand?
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So I mean, it was hilarious.
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So funny.
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It happened. And I'm so happy, but, like, such a funny moment. And, like, they hear us shrieking, and so they run in there, like, is everything okay? Because we're screaming. But that was one of the funniest moments. I mean, we had so many funny moments.
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Oh, my God. We were just laughing and laughing and laughing. I think my favorite is when she got everyone in the fucking restaurant to chant Chunker Lou, Chunkerloo at me eating ice cream. And then I was like, that is so mean. And the waitress goes, okay, chunkerloo.
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She doubled down. And listen, chunkaroo is my term of endearment. That's what I call my little. My little baby girls. Those are my little chunker loos. But she ordered five desserts, which.
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Okay, three.
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Okay, we had five on the table because I ordered two. Listen, I'm down. I'm down three to go. Chunkerloo.
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It's okay.
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I love that the waitress calls you a junkie.
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She said, okay, Chungarloo.
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Okay, jungle. We had so many good laughs. What other things are hilarious?
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Oh, God, I feel like everything was funny. Like, everything was just funny. I think when Miami was funny, there was this, like, old guy at this club that told Candace that she's basically, like, money motivated and white trash because she has tattoos. And so the clip from our video, and I was like, you can't be mean and have a receding hairline. Was about this man because he was just. Just an.
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I hated him.
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And then none of the men. We went to, like, a strip club. S Type thing, because I haven't had that experience before. And so Candice really was like, you gotta go. And I'm like, let's go support the girlies. I mean, you're in Miami. You gotta do it. And I was like, let's go support the girls. And they. Their bills are paid. None of these men. They're like all these little frat boys, honestly, with fakes. They're probably, like, 17 years old, and they're not paying. And these women are busting at all wide open for free. 99. I think not. So Candace paid their bills, pulled out, like, a thousand ones, and just made it rain like pimp daddy.
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I was just like, make this make sense. These girls are on a stage, and there's a bunch of boys. They were not men Sitting around this stage in the circle. If you've been to Miami, you know, it's like, it's a strip club. They don't get fully. Fully naked. And then there's like, a burlesque show and, like, a talent show show. It's actually really cool. And there's all these dudes, like, sitting, watching these girls, and they're not paying. So I'm like, this isn't cool. So I. I'm daddy. So I go get the money. And Savannah and I threw money, and it was so fun. And it was. That night was hysterical.
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It was.
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I mean, it really was.
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Exit. Discharge. At this level.
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This level?
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Yes, Tyler, he has a. We have a question from the peanut gallery. Yes.
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Oh, yes.
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Okay.
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Did he say we can't talk about strippers?
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No, he said we can't. He said he wants to know the lore of us in a shack room with a bunch of men. I think that was the tiki bar with Michael.
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Michael.
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Yeah, I know. That was the Tiki. The little tiki bar at the resort. And it was just us. And so we were like a party. Yeah, we made a party.
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So we got our music on. We had lights. We were on the. It was just us. Yeah, it was just us. So we were like, let's. Let's do a performance. Savannah fell off the bar
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in. My finger's still healing.
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Oh, yeah.
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She has an. Oh, my God. And I fell into rocks. Like, off. The bar was just a bunch of sharp rocks, and that's what I fell into. I had a bruise that was massive. And I wasn't even drunk. I just was trying to step off, and then I overstepped. And, yeah, we were doing A full performance.
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So, like, if anybody saw it was award winning. Like we were doing splits. Like, we had so much fun. And it was. It was honestly like we were in a deserted island. It was like Survivor.
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These men have never seen anything like that before. They probably thought we were insane.
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They loved it. They loved every moment. I am sure they miss us.
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Oh, yeah, I know. He messaged me on WhatsApp and was like, I hope you have a long life full of prosperity and reply. But it was sweet.
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It was the best.
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It was the best. Yeah, I loved it. I'm trying to think if there's anything else that was fun and exciting. I mean, all of it. But yeah, we need to get our trip planned. Any other estheticians that want to scuba dive? We want to plan a big scuba esthetician trip. So if you watch this on YouTube, then if you're listening, not on YouTube, go comment and let us know where you want to go dive. And we can get you guys like certified and taught. Not us, but we can get someone to certify you.
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We need to do this. I think it's so cool.
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I think so too.
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And I think people would be down because I had people say, like, oh my God, I would love to do this. And a couple girls that I knew actually said that they already have their patty. So like, we need to plan that. It would be dope.
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Let's do it. I love it.
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When are we going?
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Oh, God, probably. I think we should do April. End of April.
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That's coming up. I can't believe it's March 1st today.
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Fuck, that's next month. Never mind.
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It's literally next month. And I already have another. I'm here in Costa Rica for two weeks and then I booked a random trip at the end of March.
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So where are you going?
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I'm going to Belgium and Amsterdam for.
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Just.
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Just because I've never been. One of my. One of my friends has like a women's travel club, which is.
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I've heard of this. Okay. I want to more about this. Do they make you travel with other people you don't know?
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So they curate the people. So you have to apply to the trip.
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So you have to match you with people that they think you would like.
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Well, no, they don't match you. So, like, they'll pick a destination and they'll plan an entire itinerary and then you can apply to be on that trip. Okay. So yes, they like curate the vibe and make sure people are compatible and that it's like going to be A cool group of women.
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Okay.
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But they had a. They had a room available. I've never been. I already.
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It'll be so fun.
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Amy, who run it, and I was like, I'm coming. So I just booked it.
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I love that. That's so.
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They have one in Korea in May. I might try to do it.
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Okay.
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Korea.
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Let's go to Korea.
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No, like, let's go.
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We're gonna go.
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Okay. It's like the 17th of May.
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Okay. Marking that my calendar.
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All right, let's go. And maybe we can do, like, a quick dive on the back end.
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Yeah. And that would be so fun to do something in Korea. Is there an ocean?
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Well, yeah. It's like an island, isn't it?
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Wait, I don't know which one's the one. You can't go to North.
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Yeah, we should.
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Again,
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I'm looking up Korea.
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I feel like they'd let me in.
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Hang on. Korea. I think I was thinking of Japan. Is Korea an island or am I dumb?
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I don't know. It's a peninsula.
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No. Is it?
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It is.
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Who said? Tyler.
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Yeah, she said. I don't trust you. Who told you that? It's a peninsula. I don't know what a peninsula is, but that's what it is.
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I trust Tyler, because what is a peninsula?
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Isn't a peninsula a skinny island?
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A peninsula is, like Florida. It's, like, attached to land, but it's like a.
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But it shouldn't be. It's, like, hanging on by the. Like, the tippy tip tip of it.
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Yeah. Okay, so Korea. Oh, yeah. It is a peninsula. He's so right. It's just like Florida. Oh, okay. So I'm sure there's cool dive spots. We need to do it.
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Let's go.
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See you in Korea.
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See you in Korea.
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Let's do some sheet masks.
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Yeah, I'm into it. Okay. Well, I know you have to go. I know everyone's gonna love this. I love you.
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I love you.
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Thank you so much. Let's hang out soon.
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Okay. See you somewhere.
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Tty all have fun in Costa Rica.
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Love you.
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Bye.
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Bye, babe.
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Bye, guys. Happy Monday.
Host: Savanna Boda ("The Dallas Aesthetician")
Guest: Candace Marino (The LA Facialist)
Date: March 2, 2026
In "Bahama Trauma," Savanna Boda welcomes fellow renowned esthetician and industry superstar Candace Marino for a vibrant, unfiltered conversation about their recent shark diving adventure in the Bahamas. Blending professional camaraderie, deep friendship, and a mutual appetite for adrenaline, the episode dives into both skincare industry insights and wild travel tales, including raw reflections on overcoming fears, supporting women in aesthetics, and the hilariously traumatic realities of a no-frills diving trip.
On industry friendship:
On their psychic synchronization:
On adventure and confidence:
Shark encounter:
On scarcity and abundance in life:
Comic moments:
"Bahama Trauma" is a raucous, real, and inspiring travelogue and friendship chronicle, blending deep professional respect with irreverent humor and raw honesty. The episode is as much about the importance of abundance and allyship in the aesthetics world as it is about embracing discomfort, conquering irrational fears, and finding joy (and hilarity) in things going wildly off-plan. For those in skincare, travel, or simply looking for unapologetically honest women supporting each other, this episode delivers both laughter and wisdom.