Perfectionism vs. Reality

Summary

Podcast Summary: The blondEST

Episode: "Perfectionism vs. Reality"

Host: Savanna Boda (The Dallas Aesthetician)
Co-host: Tyler Jacoby
Release Date: November 17, 2025

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Overview

In this episode of "The blondEST," Savanna Boda and Tyler Jacoby dive candidly into the challenges of balancing perfectionism with the unpredictable realities of business, personal growth, and motherhood. The conversation is raw, humorous, and peppered with honest admissions about emotional struggles, decision fatigue, and the chaos of opening a new spa location. The duo explores how admitting vulnerability, facing setbacks, and adjusting expectations play into their pursuit of success—offering an engaging behind-the-scenes look at life and entrepreneurship in the beauty industry.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Overwhelmed Minds and Scattered To-Do Lists

• Savanna opens up about feeling constantly distracted and unable to keep up with an endless list of responsibilities
  • “Everywhere I look, I’m reminded about something that needs to be done.” (Savanna, 00:29)
  • Tyler observes Savanna’s “attention span at an all-time low,” citing rapid topic-switching as evidence. (00:16–01:16)
• Savanna admits to decision paralysis and “mental gymnastics,” exacerbated by an emotional year.

2. The Emotional Toll of Growth

• Therapy opened floodgates instead of providing relief, challenging Savanna’s identity as a ‘work-first’ perfectionist.
  • “Going to therapy probably was, like, the worst thing I could have done this year.” (Savanna, 03:36)
  • “I could not have built my empire having feelings like that.” (Savanna, 04:23)
• Savanna juggles divorce, motherhood, business expansion, and relentless self-critique, leading to exhaustion and overwhelm.
  • “It opened like the floodgates of emotions... while I was supposed to be focusing on building this new spa, simultaneously getting a divorce, building a house, growing my team...” (Savanna, 05:51)
  • Humorous take on parenting struggles with her son Cyrus: “Cyrus is attached to her, like Velcro.” (Tyler, 07:13)

3. Perfectionism Collides with Reality

• Savanna’s inability to make decisions on “full moons” and during Mercury retrograde becomes a running joke.
  • “You're not supposed to make big decisions like that on a full moon. One, two. I've been making poor choices.” (Savanna, 08:50)
  • Tyler teases about Savanna’s dependence on astrology for business choices. (09:25)
• Analysis paralysis and high standards delay progress on opening the new spa location.
  • “I am such a perfectionist. The space is pretty, but…it makes me kind of like feel like a suicide bomber. So I’m not the most thrilled.” (Savanna, 14:48)
  • Invented phrases for indecisiveness: “Decision collision,” “selection deflection,” and “analysis paralysis.” (17:00–17:19)

4. Letting Go of Control—Reluctantly

• Realizing the need to delegate, Savanna faces frustration over not being able to control every detail.
  • “I just want, like, the first people that come in…to get the full experience of, like, what it is going to be like when everything comes in and is done.” (Savanna, 29:43)
  • Tyler offers perspective: “That’s why you have, like, a soft opening and then you have a hard opening...No place you’ve been to opens up [fully finished].” (Tyler, 29:56)
• Both hosts reflect on how past ventures were also imperfect at launch, and that growth is iterative.

5. Highs, Lows, and Humor

• 2025 described as a rollercoaster with extreme lows and equally high (but fleeting) highs.
  • “2025 fucked me in the ass raw 17 times. Gangbanged me and gave me syphilis, gonorrhea, and, like, crabs.” (Savanna, 13:11)
  • “The high highs were just medium.” (Savanna, 14:01)
• Comic banter on food, astrology, painting regrets, and Halloween costumes lightens the mood.
  • On regretting a costly purchase: “I paid, what is it, $60,000 for these two paintings that I absolutely hate...” (Savanna, 17:32)
  • On balancing business and motherhood: “I really wish I could, like, freeze time on Earth and, like, drift up on a cloud and, like, work for three weeks straight on cocaine so that I could stay up...I would do meth. I would do coke. I would do Adderall, Red Bull.” (Savanna, 33:33)

6. Relationship to Perfectionism: Acceptance and Growth

• Savanna recognizes the need to temper her perfectionism to move forward—and to maintain mental health.
  • “I've let go of a lot of my perfectionist tendencies this year because I had to deal with my emotions, which is like so rude and annoying.” (Savanna, 16:48)
• Tyler encourages appreciating growth and not getting stuck in the details:
  • “Sometimes I feel like you can’t see the big picture...not a single person has walked into our new space and not been blown away.” (Tyler, 19:09)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Therapy & Feelings

  • “I could not have built my empire having feelings like that.” (Savanna, 04:23)
  • “Therapy this year was awful because it opened, like, the floodgates of emotions.” (Savanna, 05:55)

• On Decision-Making & Perfectionism

  • “I have analysis paralysis and decision...collision!” (Savanna, 17:00)
  • “I'm really just honestly not super excited about this wall because I am such a perfectionist.” (Savanna, 14:48)

• On 2025’s Challenges

  • “2025 fucked me in the ass raw 17 times. Gangbanged me and gave me syphilis, gonorrhea, and, like, crabs.” (Savanna, 13:11)
  • “The high highs were just medium.” (Savanna, 14:01)
  • “This is supposed to open in July…And I’m not going to have all my action items completed.” (Savanna, 28:04)

• On Delegation and Letting Go

  • “I just want, like, the first people that come in…to get the full experience of…when everything comes in and is done.” (Savanna, 29:43)
  • “Every dollar you’ve spent is reflected in everything you see.” (Tyler, 29:30)

• Comic Banter

  • On regretting art: “I paid, what is it, $60,000 for these two paintings that I absolutely hate…” (Savanna, 17:32)
  • “I really wish I could, like, freeze time on Earth…and, like, work for three weeks straight on cocaine so that I could stay up…and, like, meth. I would do meth. I would do coke. I would do Adderall, Red Bull.” (Savanna, 33:33)
  • “Do not come until it’s all done.” (Savanna, 34:50)

• Affirmation (and Sarcasm)

  • “If you can dream it, you can do it.” (Savanna, 31:07 & 34:34)
  • “Don’t waste the drive on a mediocre spa.” (Savanna, 34:50)

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Important Timestamps

• Opening: Overwhelm and scattered thoughts (00:17–03:36)
• Therapy and emotional distractions (03:36–07:16)
• Parenting struggles & spa opening stress (07:13–11:01)
• Astrology as excuse for indecision (08:34, 09:25)
• Perfectionism, decision paralysis, and spa launch woes (14:48–17:19)
• Savanna’s painting regret (17:32)
• Discussion of standards, the client experience, and delegation (19:09–30:53)
• Comic reflections on how to finish the spa (33:33)
• Closing affirmations and jokes (34:34–34:52)

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Tone & Style

The episode is peppered with candid self-deprecation, dry humor, and raw admissions. Savanna’s perfectionist energy is both poignant and comedic, while Tyler offers a grounding, big-picture contrast. Their banter, full of memeable moments and pop culture references, keeps the conversation witty and relatable—especially for listeners balancing ambition, business, and the chaos of personal life.

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In summary:
This episode is a vulnerable, hilarious, and unfiltered look at how striving for perfection can clash with reality—whether in business, personal growth, or just trying to get through the week. Savanna and Tyler offer both laughs and wisdom to anyone feeling overwhelmed, stuck, or too hard on themselves, ultimately reminding listeners that progress—not perfection—is what moves us forward.

Transcript

[A]

Foreign. Hey, hey, hey. Welcome back to the Wandus podcast. I'm your host, Savannah Voda.

[B]

And I'm your co host, Tyler Jacoby. But I'm only half here Today.

[A]

We are sharing a brain cell today. It has been probably. This morning was probably the worst morning. No, that's, like, really dramatic.

[B]

It is really traumatic. But you came in like it was. You really did.

[A]

It was just like, you know, when you have. So. I've had so much to do. Like, so much to do, and I can't do it because then I get distracted and I'm like. There's like an. It's just like everywhere I look, I'm reminded of something that I need to do. And then I get sidetracked, and then I take a little side quest to get that thing done. And then before I can get that thing done, there's something else that I notice. And it's just like, that has been my day where, like, everywhere I look, I'm reminded about something that needs to be done.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And my to do list is not to do listing because there's things that, like, I didn't even know I needed to do that I, like, would see something and I'm like, oh, shit. Like, I forgot to do that.

[B]

Yeah, I. And this isn't like a knock at you or meant to be rude, but I feel like you're.

[A]

It's gonna be. That's just a setup for you saying something mean to me.

[B]

I was gonna say, like, I feel like your attention span has been at an all time low. Do you know what I mean? Like, I feel like we're on a topic for like, five seconds and then we're on to the next thing and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down.

[A]

No, I feel like I'm losing brain cells. Like, I just feel like I can't focus these days.

[B]

Well, that's why I'm struggling, because I feel like today's been a mental marathon for me because it's like the whole Rolodex is being thrown and trying to be fixed and.

[A]

Well, see, I was focused on, like, my love life a little too much last week.

[B]

Yeah. But I was not.

[A]

But this week, I'm focused on business. That's why I was so good being in a loveless marriage for sba, honestly, because I didn't have any emotions or feelings. All I did was work. And now I have emotions and feelings. What's a girl going to do about it? It's like, a lot of energy to have that I've been Through fucking mental gymnastics this past week. But now I've decided. What? What's funny?

[B]

Nothing. I was just thinking of the mental gymnastics you've had over the past few weeks.

[A]

It's been crazy. Everything's connected. Everyone's connected. It's weird. But anyway, I'm not getting into that. We're not talking about my love life.

[B]

Nope. Or not.

[A]

Not at all. So, anyway, this week, I was like, you know what? I tried. I tried, and.

[B]

Oh, you're still trying. Oh, let's be honest. Savannah is a lover girl.

[A]

I have a lot of love to give.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I haven't had any love to give for 10 years. So it's like 10 years of love exploding.

[B]

Yeah, but.

[A]

And I awakened the beast.

[B]

I know now. Now, like, you got, like. It's like you didn't drink water for, like, 10 years, and then you got to, like.

[A]

No, it's, like, literally relapse. Drug addict. Like, I feel like I'm, like, fucking crashing out, tweaking.

[B]

Yeah. No, it's.

[A]

I am a lover girl, and I have big feelings.

[B]

I don't think that's a bad thing. I don't.

[A]

I wish I didn't. I wish I could be.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like them and leave them.

[B]

But not working.

[A]

It's not working. But anyways, so it is not working, which is why I'm staying single and just focusing on SBA right now, because that's what I need to do. I've kind of talked about this, I feel, like, on the podcast, but, like, yeah, going to therapy probably was, like, the worst thing I could have done this year. I really feel like it was because this year was, like, such a big year for me in business, and it, like, I'm being dramatic. I'm really hard on myself. Like, like, we've done the best we've ever done. Like, the business is growing. Like, things are great. Like, I'm getting more speaking engagements. Like, it's just, like, we're doing good. I mean, more like my head has not been in the game because this year I realized how depressed and sad and lonely I was, and I opened, like, that can of worms. Because if you guys remember, like, the past 10 years, I just was work, work, work, work, work. Like, shoved my emotions to the side because I am a feeler and I know myself. If I allow myself to feel my emotions, I get distracted from work. And I could not have built my empire having feelings like that. So it was a good thing in hindsight that you're stressed me out when you do that. Can you not do that, reading things.

[B]

Well, you wanted this to be read.

[A]

Yeah, that's another thing. Okay, I don't want to deal with that right now, Tyler.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Anywho. I'll wait for my best friend to listen to me. Hang on.

[B]

Sorry. I'm just telling her we'll post it tomorrow. Cause I have to review it.

[A]

Gotta review. Gotta. We need to cross check that.

[B]

Yeah, we do. Just there are so many things where we're like, don't get. Don't get us started.

[A]

We will every time we hear the word cross check at sba. And it doesn't come from me.

[B]

It doesn't come from me either.

[A]

It ain't us. Anyway, so I feel like I just like, again, didn't feel any emotions or feelings. Which is why when people are like, oh my God, like, why did you get married? Because I didn't have feelings. I didn't care. Like, I didn't care. And now that I do care, and I care a lot and.

[B]

Too much, one might say.

[A]

Yeah, that's how I am.

[B]

I know.

[A]

But I have a big heart. I always have. So anyways, what I was going to say is therapy this year was awful because it opened like the floodgates of emotions. And then I went through this whole, who am I? What is life? What do I want out of life? While I was supposed to be focusing on building this new spa simultaneously, like getting a divorce, building a house, building a spa, growing my team, my other business project, that is also happening, I can't talk about. Yeah. And then trying to date. It's just like. And co parent and my son started preschool and I have a nanny and a house manager and they're all great. But this morning was. What was so stressful is like, he's staying home from school, he's sick. And like, I had the nanny and house manager there and like, Cyrus just won't let them help. And so, like, I did Pilates with him this morning. And like, it's just like doing my morning is like, hard enough. Throwing Cyrus into my morning slows me down so much. It is insane. Just so. Yeah, it's like, great. They're great when I'm not there, but it's like, I wish that Cyrus would, like, allow me to, like, do what I need to do at the house.

[B]

Cyrus is attached to her, like Velcro.

[A]

And it's great. Cause it's like one day he's gonna be like, fuck you, mom. And then like, ride off on a skateboard. Yeah, that's what the smoking A joint.

[B]

That's what the banker said yesterday. She was like, God, I miss that age now. My hers is 10 years old. And now he just calls her bruh. And I was like, savannah would kill Cyrus if he called her bruh.

[A]

I would cry. Like, this morning I was doing flaws. She's like, awesome job, mommy. I'm like, thank you. So, yeah, the Swallow should be open here in the next week.

[B]

Yeah, we are T minus, actually. We're supposed to get our certificate of occupancy this Friday, but there is still some stuff that needs to be installed after that. So we're hoping to move in by the end of next week.

[A]

And I won't kill Tyler for the 10 action items that are not going to happen before we open.

[B]

Yeah, she won't kill me because she doesn't know how to make a decision. And so that's why some things get fall behind.

[A]

Trust. My decisions in men right now are so fucking bad. I don't want to make any decisions for my business right now. I don't trust my decision making.

[B]

But that's how things get. That's how I finalize things.

[A]

Like, they were trying to get me to pick the fireplace marble. And I was like, first of all.

[B]

It'S a full moon. I heard about this after the. I got a call.

[A]

What'd they say to you? What'd they say about me?

[B]

They just. They. They didn't pass judgment. They just told me. Yeah, she wasn't. It didn't seem like she was up for making decisions today. Something about a full moon and the stars. And I was like, oh, Jesus Christ. I'm sorry, y'. All.

[A]

It was a full moon. You're not supposed to make big decisions like that on a full moon. One, two. I've been making poor choices.

[B]

I told you, they didn't pass judgment. They just told me you said that like you were something about the moon and something. And I was like, oh, well, yeah, sounds about right.

[A]

It was.

[B]

That slab was so pretty though. That green one you posted, the avocado one.

[A]

It's called avocado.

[B]

It's very pretty. It's prettier than an avocado.

[A]

I needed to sleep on it.

[B]

Do you still love it?

[A]

Well, now it's a Mercury retrograde, so now I.

[B]

This is why we're never gonna get anything done. I swear. I think that your astrologer is the best and worst thing that has ever happened to you. Like, I think it's a flip side.

[A]

She knows.

[B]

She knows. And, Brenda, if you're listening I do appreciate. Okay, well, then I don't need to defend myself.

[A]

But one of her clients listens to us and tells her.

[B]

Okay, well, one of her clients. I do love Brenda, but Savannah's become a little dependent on the stars and the moon for making big decisions.

[A]

I don't 100% listen to her.

[B]

Yeah, she's just talking about. Your intuition has always been key, and I feel like you haven't been listening to it lately.

[A]

Yeah, I've been listening.

[B]

Something else I was about to say. But, yeah, we. Savannah and I got to go yesterday to the new spa, and they are, like, 95% there. I mean, it's crazy. Like, once you get all the boring stuff out of the way, how fast things move along, like, the process of building all the walls and, you know, sheetrocking and flooring is what takes so long. But once all that's done, like, the, like, wallpaper getting installed or light fixtures or everything that makes the space, what it's actually going to look like goes by so fast. So Savannah and I will not go to the new location for, like, a week and a half or two weeks. And when we come back, it's like a completely different space.

[A]

Wait, are we hiring the people to do it? Are we moving it as a team?

[B]

We're moving it out as a team.

[A]

So it's like $30,000?

[B]

Yeah. Like, and we don't even have that much stuff. Like, we're gonna mostly have to buy new, but they said we're moving from.

[A]

Oh, are those people gonna buy our stuff?

[B]

No.

[A]

So what are we gonna do with it?

[B]

I was talking to Marie about that. I said, looks like we're still having an estate sale after we move out. I figured, like, right before we have to move out, and then the rest of it. Go somewhere.

[A]

Do I go to Mexico?

[B]

No, you're. It's tomorrow. They're going on the private. They're going on the jet on Thursday.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Absolutely not.

[A]

Life sucks right now.

[B]

Oh, yeah, Kim, There are people dying. So, yeah, it's insane. Like, I swear, two weeks ago, we went to the spa, and Savannah's office was literally just an empty room. And now it's, like, fully done. I'm like, how did that happen in the blink of an eye? So, yeah, we should be moving in. We hired three new people, and we have.

[A]

Like, by the way, do you see.

[B]

Any more that we need to hire? Yeah, I wanted to talk to you about that because I thought we were. And then I was told today that we aren't, and I got really confused.

[A]

Again. It's a Mercury retrograde. I'm not.

[B]

I'm never gonna get anything done, y'. All. Like, I was like, oh, I found all the things we're gonna do, all the people we're gonna hire, and now all of it's up in the air again. So back to square two.

[A]

I just don't like the way the energy is in the world right now, and I just don't participate in it. Okay, well, then that's my intuition, then.

[B]

I'm going just start making decisions, and if you don't like them, well, just.

[A]

Go on and fire everyone.

[B]

No, you just will get them changed. And we don't blame me.

[A]

Okay. But I am very sad that. It's just. I think what makes me so sad is that this year did not go the way that I thought it was going to go. First and foremost, 2025. Fucked me in the ass raw 17 times. Gang banged me and gave me syphilis, gonorrhea, and, like, crabs.

[B]

I almost got HIV this year. So not actually. Well, yeah, I could have been. Close call.

[A]

I did not.

[B]

So as we know.

[A]

But, yeah, it's just been a really, really terrible, awful, horrible year. Oh, my God. But also, like, a really exciting year. It was, like, really low lows. Really high highs. I gallivanted across, like, America. Wait, what's the world?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, the world.

[B]

Yeah. I think the high highs are yet to come for you.

[A]

I've had some high highs.

[B]

Yeah, you have? Yeah. No, this year has been.

[A]

But I feel like the high highs were. The low lows were so bad that the high highs were just medium.

[B]

Yeah, I think. I think our low lows are setting us up for high highs.

[A]

Yeah. 2026 is gonna be great. Yep. We're gonna get fucked, sucked, make money. It'll be great. Hello.

[B]

I'm just saying these girls can't. No one can function without me.

[A]

I can function without you. I can. I have been.

[B]

Are you okay? Are you kidding?

[A]

No. I used to function without you. Now I can't because you, like, do things that I don't know how to do.

[B]

I would love for you to learn.

[A]

I'm not going to learn that anyway. Yeah, so it's like, basically, I'm really just honestly not super excited about this wall because I am such a perfectionist. Like, the space is pretty, but it's like, I wanted to do like, a whole, like, rebrand and, like, everything. Like, obviously, in my perfect world.

[B]

All.

[A]

Of those action items would have been. Which is not all. Blame On Tyler, I had some analysis paralysis and decision. What is. They call it decision. There should be a rhyme decision. What? There has to be something.

[B]

Decision prohibition.

[A]

That doesn't rhyme.

[B]

Decision. Sort of the closest you're gonna get.

[A]

We need to like chat that there has to be like a decision. A choice or choice. What's another word for decision? Decision, choice, answer. What's pragmatic mean?

[B]

Hold on.

[A]

Huh. Anyway, I wanted everything to be like done and perfect. Especially since I've been dreaming about this space for five years. Five years. And it'll get done eventually. It just like won't be done at opening, which makes me kind of like feel like a suicide bomber. So I'm not the most thrilled. But also I'm not really in the headspace to really fucking care right now. So it just has to open and we need to get in and like get rolling. It just feels like I've let go of a lot of my perfectionist tendencies this year because I had to deal with like my emotions, which is like so rude and annoying. I am going back to just working and being cold hearted in my love life and warm to the people that I love.

[B]

The people you love. Appreciate it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Decision collision.

[A]

I like that. I've been having decision collisions and analysis paralysis, selection, deflection.

[B]

Give me another. Those are the only good ones.

[A]

No, there has to be another one.

[B]

Indecision. Incision.

[A]

I don't like that.

[B]

Yeah, no, I like selection deflection. That's my favorite one because that has been you.

[A]

Hey, when's that ugly painting coming in?

[B]

It will.

[A]

See, that's why I'm not making choices. Because I paid, what is it, $60,000 for these two paintings that I absolutely hate with every fiber of my being.

[B]

They're gonna be pretty.

[A]

They're so bad.

[B]

They really pull in the hardware from the.

[A]

I don't give a fuck what they pull in. I would never. I would literally put that in like a little girl's room.

[B]

Oh, you can.

[A]

One day, sixty thousand dollar painting.

[B]

Lucky little girl that you'll have.

[A]

I hate it. So that's why I'm not making big decisions. Because like what fucking what? Boy, was I crying over that day when I made that decision.

[B]

You weren't.

[A]

No. There was no boys at that point.

[B]

You were not. That was just the decision that you.

[A]

Made and it was a bad one.

[B]

Everyone loves it besides you, so.

[A]

Well, everyone's blind.

[B]

No, but I'm trying to think. Anything else? Not really, no. Life has been.

[A]

Life's been life in.

[B]

It's All I can.

[A]

Just hanging on by a thread. It's like, we really actually need to start doing this podcast, like, in the morning, because by the time I work a full day and I get here, no thoughts.

[B]

Not even vibes.

[A]

Not even vibes.

[B]

Yeah. It's not no thoughts, just vibes. It's no thoughts and no vibes.

[A]

You guys are getting us at our, like, most drained, exhausted.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But, Tyler, you still think it's gonna, like, be okay, right?

[B]

I think it's gonna be. I'm telling. Like, here's the thing is I think Savannah is.

[A]

You won't hurt my feelings.

[B]

No, I think you're just such a, like, minute perfectionist. And that's why, like, you wanted me and now you hate it. But that I, like, kind of solely look at the big picture when I'm analyzing something. And you. I. Sometimes I feel like you can't see the big picture. Like, it's like you're too caught up in the details. But not a single person has walked into our new space and not been blown away. You know what I mean?

[A]

And that's great for them.

[B]

No, that's. That's the purpose. Like, I love.

[A]

It's not just about the looks. It's, like, about everything else. Like, those key touch points. Like, but, like, those. Hella. On Instagram.

[B]

But those are.

[A]

And then it's not going to happen.

[B]

But those aren't. What defines the. The experience is through what people see and the environment they're in and the interactions they have with our staff. Those are the two pillars of, like, what defines the business. A little form, which we're going to have, but a little form is not going to be like, oh, my God, this place is like.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

So.

[B]

No, y' all know what I'm saying. I know you do.

[A]

As long as I can have. I remember when I said New Year's, I'm gonna go before Christmas. All of those action items, like, have to be there. Like the thing that starts with an M. Yes. And ends with an E. No, it will be. It will be that part. And then. Shelf talkers. Y' all need to figure out what the fuck is going on with that.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Merch.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Candles and room trays.

[B]

Okay. We just went over this right before this episode.

[A]

I know, but I just want to do it one more time. Hang on. I have someone calling me. Maybe it's one of my men. Hello?

[B]

Miranda Presley.

[A]

Who's that?

[B]

Oh, it's Miranda Priestley in the Devil Wears Prada.

[A]

Anyway, There also side note, is this man named Taylor who has called our office.

[B]

No. Tyler.

[A]

Oh, his name's Tyler.

[B]

Yeah. We have a stalker. Or not. We. She. This guy has called our office. Like, maybe we shouldn't talk about him. What if he's listening? I don't know. He's called the office several times, like, demanding that he gets to speak to Savannah every single day for the past week. And when the girls are like, okay, what is this about? Like, who are you calling with? He will not answer any of their questions. He. And then like, they're like, okay, well, if it's anything about a business proposal or anything like that, you can email Tyler. And then he just, like, gets frustrated and tells them that he has Savannah's personal number and he'll reach out.

[A]

And he's never reached.

[B]

We're like, okay, then why have you called the office every day for a week if you were just going to talk to Savannah personally?

[A]

So I wonder if it's the one that made the consult or was like, I'm making a consult to shoot my shot.

[B]

No, because I think there was another one who had. They had a weird situation with about scheduling something, and it was a totally separate guy.

[A]

Oh, I don't know.

[B]

There's been a lot of strange encounters on our phone line recently for those girls.

[A]

So sad. Anyway, okay, you know what sounds so good, Tom? Yum, soup.

[B]

You can eat right now.

[A]

Did you just fat shame me?

[B]

No. I feel like we just ate.

[A]

That's so fucked up, Tyler.

[B]

I'm not fat shaming. I just.

[A]

No, you are 1000% fat shaming me.

[B]

No, I think I'm just too tired to think about food.

[A]

I'm sorry that I don't scrape my bowl clean like you do.

[B]

My bowl was scraped clean today. Well, I had a quesadilla. Yeah, that's. It's because you don't eat.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You take like, five bites.

[A]

I like a little bit of everything.

[B]

She likes, like, nine snacks throughout the day as compared to, like, one to two meals.

[A]

I have not been snacking.

[B]

I don't mean snacks, but, like, I feel like you, like, eat in small bursts.

[A]

Yeah, because if I eat too much and I get tired.

[B]

Yeah, that's. That's me right now.

[A]

So I don't want to be weighed down. I got shit to do. Literally, anyway. Asshole. Fuck you.

[B]

Why?

[A]

Second of all, what's that place that I like, that Thai place in Dallas.

[B]

Ka Thai?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I fuck with that in West Village.

[A]

I'm too tired to do that. And I don't have anyone to go with because. But anyway, that the room sprays the doodles. We need the doodles. Is botanical mix gonna have that shit done by next week?

[B]

I told them we're not planning on opening until December 2nd. We need, like, a week to hire.

[A]

Okay, that's good. So then. Okay, that's good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So then I'll be able to train everyone on the touch points.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. That's why you and Lydia need to get together tomorrow morning and get all of that, because, like, you guys, the customer service is going to be customer servicing. It is like a whole new experience in sensory. Do we have trays to set up for all, like, the little themes for each room? You know what I'm talking about?

[B]

Those are, like, the final things that JSI is working on.

[A]

Tell them that when we do, like. Because remember how, like, if they're in a certain room, they can have the experience of the room? There should be. You know how we did, like, the bowls to match each theme of the room, we should have trays and cups and bowls. Like, a whole little setup. Like, you know what I mean? Like, three sets that can go into that room.

[B]

They kind of tried to do that, and then you hated their options and you told them you just wanted simple cups.

[A]

They didn't do it for each room.

[B]

No, but they did, like, shells, and they did, like.

[A]

No. Okay, well.

[B]

They. They did give us options.

[A]

That was another version of me.

[B]

I didn't like them.

[A]

Okay, well, I'll. I want a tray already. Tray, cup, bowl. Because, you know, it's gonna have, like, the snack and the drink that coordinate with the experience. It's a whole thing, guys. It's like, a whole thing. And also, fun fact, you know, Candace is her. As well as getting in Architect Digest.

[B]

Really?

[A]

I know. So you should see what her contact is, because I want to do that as well.

[B]

Congratulations to Candace.

[A]

Isn't that awesome?

[B]

I mean, it's a beautiful space.

[A]

It's insane. Her space is so pretty.

[B]

Very organic.

[A]

Are we having that one lady come take pics of it?

[B]

Mm. I put Janna in charge of coordinating.

[A]

For me to pick my six photos too.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

But then I might. I'll do that in the morning.

[B]

What's the first thing I was told that you were told, but that part. You were not told.

[A]

About the sale?

[B]

No.

[A]

Oh, no, I was not just lying.

[B]

You were told about the aria.

[A]

Quit lying on my name.

[B]

You were told about the documents to review.

[A]

No, I wasn't.

[B]

We're not told about the pictures.

[A]

I Don't think that's true.

[B]

Is the story I was. You were told while you were sitting on the beds, is what I was.

[A]

Told when I was sitting on the what?

[B]

On the beds at the room the first day.

[A]

I think I was not listening.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

If I'm not giving her direct eye contact, she can't count that.

[B]

That's me. As everyone at that spa knows. If they're. They walk in and they talk to me, I don't even hear them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not nice, but it's true.

[A]

Okay, well, I think that's it. I mean, guys, honestly, just be happy there's an episode. That's all I have to say.

[B]

I actually think this is coming out on Monday.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Shop, Skim, Better. Cyber Week. Also, what's going on with the three? We were supposed to have three guests on this podcast.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Where are the guests?

[B]

One was at a silent retreat, one is being weird about the schedule, and the other needs a full legal breakdown. Like, I'm. I can't. I. I can't do everything. I'm about to crash out, y'. All.

[A]

No, I'm about to crash out.

[B]

Mm. I bet. It's so hard. Hmm.

[A]

My life. Just kidding, bitch. I'm holding the world on my shoulders. Like, you're just helping take some of the weight off. At the end of the day, this all falls on me.

[B]

I think it all falls on me.

[A]

Well, I'm the one that gets yelled at. But it won't fall on you. It'll fall on me. And then I'll crash out at you.

[B]

Yeah. So it all falls on me.

[A]

Not, like, financially or, like the consequences, just the emotional. It falls on you emotionally. Yeah. It'll be fine. Everything's only fine. I just am, like, annoyed. This is supposed to open in July.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm not going to have all my action items completed.

[B]

Well, thank God it wasn't going to open in July because we didn't have half these ideas until mid June. July?

[A]

Yeah. You can't rush genius.

[B]

I know, but if we opened in July, you didn't even have.

[A]

Can you just give me, like, a date where.

[B]

No, I cannot. I. If I was hand making them with my hands, then I could, but you know what I mean. I can't do that.

[A]

I don't want to work until it's done. Like, it'll just make me sad. I'm sorry. I'm just being honest. It's just like, imagine if you, like, dreamed of this thing for, like, five years, and it's finally here and it's not. Not everything's going to be perfect right off the bat. Like, it will be eventually, but it's not.

[B]

Nothing was perfect when you moved into this space. And I know. I can attest to that. Nothing was perfect.

[A]

Taylor. I was broke in, like, 21.

[B]

No, I know, but thing. But, like, you were.

[A]

And I was all. I was.

[B]

I.

[A]

Because I also think I was crashing out.

[B]

You were crashing out because all the construction was fucking horrible.

[A]

But no, that was. And I was. I didn't have money to, like, I should, like, with the amount of money. That's why I'm annoyed. The amount of money I put into this, it should be perfect.

[B]

Yeah, but the amount of every dollar you've spent is reflected in everything you see.

[A]

I just want.

[B]

Everything else you want is going to require a lot more money.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. So that's all I'm saying is, like, what you've spent is being reflected accurately.

[A]

I just want, like, the first people that come in. Like, I want them to get the full experience of, like, what it is going to be like when everything comes in and is done. Does that make sense?

[B]

It does, but I think that's why you have, like, a soft opening and then you have a hard opening. Like, when all these restaurants open you, their menu is like five items. And it's because the things are, like, it's expected. No place you've been to opens up. Even the places you rave about are still adding things to improve upon as they're open and you don't bat an eye. You're not like, oh, my God, they're so.

[A]

I don't hold them to the standard that I hold myself. Like, congrats that they're mediocre. I'm not. Like, I don't do that. Like, I'm Savannah Bota.

[B]

Well, I'm not sure what you want to do.

[A]

And it needs to be Savannah Bota. Level off the guy right out the gate. That's why I'm annoyed. But I have high standards, Ty.

[B]

But, like, the.

[A]

And this is, like, the only thing I can control. I can't control, like, literally anything else in my life except this, which now I can't control. It's just annoying. Like, do I need to. Like, what do I do? Wait. I don't want to wait. Wait. But I.

[B]

But I told you. We have. This is a conversation throughout this podcast. I love you guys.

[A]

I'm so stressed.

[B]

Have a wonderful rest of your week. I hope your week is better than going. Better than ours is going.

[A]

Our week's great. If you can dream it, you can do it. Who says that?

[B]

I've never heard that before.

[A]

I think it's from Blades of Glory.

[B]

Oh, is it your favorite movie? I don't know.

[A]

Oh, my God. That's what we were supposed to be for Halloween this year. Do you remember that? We're doing it next year.

[B]

Okay. Blades of Glory.

[A]

Yeah. Who's Chaz Michael? Michael, is that you?

[B]

I saw that. I've seen that movie one time, and I must admit, it wasn't my favorite.

[A]

So I can't say it really hurt my feelings that you didn't love it, because that's, like, one of my. Finding Nemo. Blades of Glory, A Star is Born.

[B]

Okay, yeah. Three wildly different movies, to mention. Like, I don't think they could be on further ends of the spectrum of, like, genres. I love Finding Nemo. I loved Star Is Born. That was also a movie that she showed me for the first time. I don't like comedy movies. I don't find them funny either.

[A]

But Blades of Glorious, it's not funny.

[B]

It's not funny, like, by any means. So I just couldn't get on board with that one.

[A]

It's hilarious.

[B]

But we love y'. All.

[A]

Everyone loves Blaze of Glory. Like, I'm like, that's crazy. Like, name one funny movie that you think's funny.

[B]

I don't. That's the problem. Like, I don't think comedy movies are funny. All right. I can't remember the last time I chuckled.

[A]

His name is. Oh, it's Jimmy McElroy. Is me and.

[B]

What did you say? John Michael Michael.

[A]

No, you're. You're Chaz Michael Michael.

[B]

Oh, Chaz.

[A]

Which, actually, personality wise, I think I'm more Chaz Michael Michael than you.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But I'm blonde.

[B]

I'll let you make that determination.

[A]

Like, this is gonna. That's gonna be us for Halloween next year.

[B]

Oh, you're.

[A]

Hold me like that. Better start lifting.

[B]

I gotta get back into berries.

[A]

I'll stop eating two meals, nine snacks a day.

[B]

No Tom Yum soup.

[A]

It's gonna really put us over the edge. No, but we're fine guys. It's just, again, if anyone knows me, they know I'm, like, such a perfectionist. And, like, I just. Balancing motherhood and, like, just everything, it's been like, I really wish I could, like, freeze time on Earth and, like, go, like, drift up on a cloud and, like, work for three weeks straight on, like, cocaine so that I could stay up and, like, meth. I would do meth. I would do coke. I would do Adderall, Red Bull.

[B]

You'd really be up in the clouds because you'd be fucking dead.

[A]

I would literally shock myself back awake.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then just, like. I just feel like I need a good three weeks and, like, a bunch of little magical elves that can build anything that I need quickly.

[B]

If I had that, I wouldn't need three weeks, babe. Like, that's the problem.

[A]

We should go find little, like, I wish we had little elves.

[B]

We need to stop talking. We need to move on.

[A]

I can't. I feel like this is therapeutic.

[B]

I know, but we can cut the cameras and go again.

[A]

I don't want to cut the cameras.

[B]

Round two. We love you guys, and have a wonderful rest of your week.

[A]

If you can dream it, you can do it.

[B]

If you are a DFW local, come see our new spa in just a few weeks.

[A]

Don't come see our new spa.

[B]

Do not listen to her.

[A]

Don't come until it's all done.

[B]

Do not come.

[A]

Don't waste the drive on a mediocre spa.

[B]

Oh, my God. Okay, we're done.